| 00:28.45 | levi | Good evening. |
| 00:34.39 | nick125 | Good evening to you too. |
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| 01:26.03 | lakshmi | wii sargun |
| 01:28.05 | lakshmi | :-/ |
| 01:28.08 | lakshmi | meh |
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| 02:29.11 | levi | So, I just watched The Fountain. |
| 02:29.34 | nick125 | levi: What did you think? |
| 02:31.20 | levi | The cinematography was beautiful. I was engrossed through the middle half of the movie, but the first and last quarters lost me. |
| 02:35.26 | nick125 | I agree. |
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| 03:33.05 | fozzmoo | Is "The Fountain" by the guy who did Pi? |
| 03:34.50 | fozzmoo | RedHeron: I discovered something since our discussion last night. |
| 03:35.12 | fozzmoo | Woodrow Wilson was much *much* more of a fascist than Lincoln (and Bush) |
| 03:37.17 | levi | fozzmoo: Yeah. |
| 03:37.40 | fozzmoo | I loved Pi and .. that other one. |
| 03:37.53 | levi | Requiem for a Dream? |
| 03:38.10 | fozzmoo | Yes! |
| 03:38.19 | fozzmoo | I liked Pi more, tho. |
| 03:38.31 | fozzmoo | I have it in my DVD collection. |
| 03:38.36 | levi | I've got Pi, too. |
| 03:38.42 | levi | Have you seen The Fountain? |
| 03:38.46 | fozzmoo | Nope. |
| 03:39.06 | fozzmoo | My movie-watching has hit a vacuum the last few years |
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| 03:39.29 | levi | I haven't seen many movies lately either. |
| 03:39.49 | levi | The Fountain is very different from Pi, and I assume from Requiem for a Dream as well. |
| 03:40.38 | Sargun | The Fountain was not a good movie. |
| 03:40.58 | levi | Sargun is an idiot. |
| 03:41.07 | levi | Aren't opinions cool? |
| 03:41.11 | nick125 | haha |
| 03:41.48 | Sargun | haha |
| 03:41.54 | Sargun | ~lart levi |
| 03:41.54 | ibot | smacks levi up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 03:44.41 | findlay | ~sargun levi |
| 03:44.42 | ibot | see ~tene levi |
| 03:44.45 | findlay | ~levi Sargun |
| 03:44.46 | ibot | ACTION gives Sargun a hovercraft and then fills it with eels! |
| 03:45.04 | fozzmoo | levi: Have you seen Requiem For a Dream? |
| 03:45.11 | levi | fozzmoo: Nope. |
| 03:45.21 | fozzmoo | It's very...drug-infested. :) |
| 03:45.39 | fozzmoo | But there are some similarities to Pi in how it feels. |
| 03:45.55 | fozzmoo | It meanders a lot more, tho. |
| 03:46.03 | fozzmoo | I need to see it again. |
| 03:46.34 | findlay | stupid xandros |
| 03:46.41 | nick125 | hahahaah |
| 03:46.53 | findlay | ~date |
| 03:46.53 | ibot | It is now 2008.02.18 3:46:53 GMT |
| 03:47.15 | nick125 | ntp ftw. |
| 03:47.38 | findlay | no ntp in the repo |
| 03:48.02 | RedHeron | fozzmoo: More of a fascist, less of a despot than either... and Lincoln wasn't really fascist, he was cleaning up a mess from 3 previous administrations. |
| 03:48.42 | fozzmoo | RedHeron: Whatever. My point was that he infringed on a lot of civil liberties in wartime. |
| 03:49.12 | RedHeron | fozzmoo: Infringing on civil liberties !== fascist... the reasons behind the action are what make a fascist. |
| 03:49.26 | fozzmoo | I agree. |
| 03:49.31 | findlay | I don't think fascism really matured as any kind of diabolical spectre wrought agains humanity until about the time of Wilson |
| 03:49.40 | RedHeron | Just after, right. |
| 03:50.28 | RedHeron | But it does breed discontent because it gives the powerful more power and takes it from the less powerful, creating a gap that would otherwise not exist. |
| 03:50.35 | findlay | but I'm no historian |
| 03:50.55 | findlay | I did do AP American History in high school, though :-) |
| 03:51.58 | RedHeron | Well, you're still right about it not being considered a huge problem, though... it was about 1924 when it came about as a method of popular induction, and about another decade before people could see the results were less than desirable. |
| 03:52.54 | RedHeron | Fascism is corporatized despotism, and can also be called "cartel-oriented administration. |
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| 06:00.08 | jgiboney | anyone know anything about iptables? |
| 06:05.31 | Sargun | No, we're all clueless :-P |
| 06:05.36 | Sargun | iptables -I INPUT -j DROP |
| 06:05.39 | Sargun | iptables -I OUTPUT -j DROP |
| 06:05.43 | Sargun | [don't do that] |
| 06:05.51 | Sargun | [that's like rm -rf $NETWORK] |
| 06:07.40 | fozzmoo | jgiboney: What Linux distro? |
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| 06:10.08 | jgiboney | there is the guy with the question |
| 06:10.29 | jgiboney | sargun, fozzmoo meet mgeary |
| 06:10.42 | jgiboney | they want to know what distro mgeary |
| 06:10.43 | mgeary | hi guys. again. |
| 06:10.50 | mgeary | Fedora 7 |
| 06:10.56 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. My home turf |
| 06:11.05 | fozzmoo | What's the situation? |
| 06:11.13 | mgeary | wanna see the iptables --list output? I'm trying to punch a hole in port 80 |
| 06:11.21 | mgeary | http://dpaste.com/35688/ |
| 06:11.22 | Sargun | fozzmoo, He wants to install a better distro. |
| 06:11.28 | mgeary | i added the 2nd line there, but no joy |
| 06:11.41 | fozzmoo | Okay... edit /etc/sysconfig/iptables |
| 06:11.58 | fozzmoo | By default, Fedora only allows port 22 (SSH) |
| 06:11.59 | Sargun | iptables -p tcp -I INPUT --dport 80 -j ACCEPT |
| 06:12.10 | fozzmoo | So, you can easily copy that line and change 22 to 80 |
| 06:12.24 | mgeary | Sargun: bingo |
| 06:12.25 | fozzmoo | That line looks like this: -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
| 06:12.26 | mgeary | merci |
| 06:12.31 | Sargun | [first you have to install gentoo http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml] |
| 06:13.02 | fozzmoo | After you've changed that file, run '/etc/init.d/iptables restart' |
| 06:13.21 | Sargun | /etc/init.d/iptables stop |
| 06:13.29 | mgeary | well, i don't mind this being a non-persistent change |
| 06:13.36 | fozzmoo | Ahh. Okay. |
| 06:13.43 | mgeary | it's just so i can use PMA to set up a database |
| 06:14.03 | mgeary | after that, the machine will be a dedicated DB server, so it doesn't need public :80 access |
| 06:14.08 | Sargun | fozzmoo, mine was easier |
| 06:14.10 | mgeary | but thanks |
| 06:14.40 | fozzmoo | Then: iptables -tfilter -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT |
| 06:15.03 | fozzmoo | Good luck. |
| 06:15.07 | mgeary | merci |
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| 07:04.38 | lakshmi | hey |
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| 08:50.59 | lakshmi | hi |
| 08:51.04 | lakshmi | im baaacckkkk |
| 08:51.07 | lakshmi | ~hi lakshmi |
| 08:51.18 | ibot | Many greetings, lakshmi, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 08:51.18 | lakshmi | ~hi |
| 08:51.18 | ibot | hello, lakshmi |
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| 09:19.40 | tristanbob_ | anyone have recommendations for a wireless ISP in utah? |
| 09:25.22 | tristanbob_ | http://digis.net or http://www.relia.net/wireless/ seem to be the only options |
| 09:25.25 | brac | [Digis - High-Speed Internet and Unlimited Phone] |
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| 14:12.36 | mgeary | hi folks |
| 14:14.17 | mgeary | can anyone help me figure out why a new Fedora 7 machine can't do any dns lookups? my first thought was firewall, but i've cloned the iptables from a machine on the same subnet that can do dns lookups just fine. My next thought was /etc/resolv.conf, but again, it's identical to this other machine. What else can i check? pinging an IP works fine (though not the NS ip) |
| 14:14.39 | mgeary | i guess maybe the NS has a firewall rule prevent queries from this machine....? |
| 14:14.57 | jsmith | mgeary: First, try "host www.google.com 4.2.2.4" |
| 14:15.18 | jsmith | mgeary: That'll resolve against a different nameserver, and see if your DNS requests are able to get out and back in at all |
| 14:15.18 | mgeary | works |
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| 14:15.39 | jsmith | mgeary: OK, next do "host www.google.com <ip address of nameserver from /etc/resolv.conf>" |
| 14:16.09 | mgeary | timed out |
| 14:16.15 | mgeary | "no servers could be reached" |
| 14:16.26 | jsmith | Sounds like a problem with your name server |
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| 14:16.39 | jsmith | ~remind emcnabb |
| 14:16.42 | mgeary | but another machine at the facility can hit it just fine :/ |
| 14:17.01 | jsmith | mgeary: Strange... and "iptables -L" doesn't look suspicious? |
| 14:17.16 | mgeary | i copied it from the "fine" machine to this one and reloaded |
| 14:18.02 | mgeary | what does DNS go over? icmp? |
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| 14:19.13 | jsmith | mgeary: UDP, usually |
| 14:19.39 | mgeary | ah |
| 14:20.42 | Sargun | DNS can go over TCP too! |
| 14:20.45 | mgeary | so, this is probably the line in question: |
| 14:20.49 | mgeary | -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp --dport 5353 -d 224.0.0.251 -j ACCEPT |
| 14:21.11 | Sargun | why 5353? |
| 14:21.19 | mgeary | beats me, just what was there |
| 14:21.33 | Sargun | Oh, that's uh, for multicast group: 224.0.0.251 |
| 14:21.48 | mgeary | ....? |
| 14:22.44 | Sargun | mDNS |
| 14:22.52 | Sargun | Its for mdns |
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| 14:35.40 | Sargun | mgeary, its for mdns |
| 14:35.48 | mgeary | right |
| 14:36.02 | mgeary | (chatting with the support folk at the ISP) |
| 14:36.08 | mgeary | thanks |
| 14:36.22 | Sargun | mgeary, Tell me how it goes. |
| 14:36.31 | Sargun | They'll screw up your line, and smear it in your face. |
| 14:36.38 | mgeary | heh |
| 14:36.45 | Sargun | mDNS is some crap generated by apple |
| 14:37.04 | mgeary | ?? this is not an OS X machine. it's Fedora |
| 14:37.09 | Sargun | to destroy the world, and enable you to spread an exploit to thousands of locations in the blink of an eye |
| 14:37.16 | mgeary | ah |
| 14:37.22 | Sargun | oh, the Linux guys were like, "We're bored, let's do this!" |
| 14:37.30 | Sargun | so they implemented it, and used it in avahi |
| 14:37.35 | Sargun | for autodiscovery |
| 14:38.07 | Aliosa27 | sorta like what upnp is to windows |
| 14:38.32 | Sargun | except worse |
| 14:38.38 | Aliosa27 | yeh |
| 14:38.42 | Sargun | because it actually works |
| 14:44.36 | elg | any upstart gurus? |
| 14:44.47 | elg | is start *supposed* to just sit there? that seems rather useless |
| 14:47.40 | Sargun | yeah |
| 14:47.46 | Sargun | that's a very redhatian thing |
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| 16:01.44 | sargun_screen | heya. |
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| 16:02.13 | sargun_screen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.22 | sargun_screen | A Load-Sharing Approach to Increase Capacity in IP/MPLS Networks |
| 16:02.26 | sargun_screen | Small Operator Lessons Learned |
| 16:02.29 | sargun_screen | which one should I do? |
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| 16:31.25 | tensai | sargun_screen: are you at nanog? |
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| 16:39.43 | sargun_screen | tensai: Yeah, you? |
| 16:39.56 | tensai | sargun_screen: I wish |
| 16:43.36 | sargun_screen | tensai: Its fun. |
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| 16:54.41 | lakshmi | hi hi hi |
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| 17:14.41 | sargun_screen | lakshmi: TTYL |
| 17:14.48 | sargun_screen | bye! |
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| 17:21.22 | lakshmi | sargun_screen wheres you going?! |
| 17:31.05 | mgeary | okay, so i was thinking i'd try to live with Plesk on this new machine, in case the client ever felt the need to be "hands on", but i just hate it. Google indicates that the simplest way to get rid of Plesk is to reload the OS. Any insights on this? |
| 17:31.40 | mgeary | it's a completely vanilla machine right now, so there's nothing to lose/backup on it... |
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| 17:44.11 | vontrapp_ | stupin network manager |
| 17:44.16 | vontrapp_ | *stipid |
| 17:44.57 | vontrapp_ | bah |
| 17:52.40 | elg | wha |
| 17:52.51 | findlay | levi: ping |
| 17:52.54 | elg | $ at now |
| 17:52.57 | elg | echo test |
| 17:52.58 | elg | ^D |
| 17:53.08 | elg | job 74 at Mon Feb 18 10:52:17 2008 |
| 17:53.15 | elg | $ atq |
| 17:53.15 | elg | 688128Wed Dec 7 00:26:28 2016 |
| 17:55.04 | lakshmi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.48 | Aliosa27 | a modified q-tip |
| 17:59.36 | elg | man, at is so hosed |
| 17:59.49 | tensai | lakshmi: dish washer |
| 18:00.28 | lakshmi | tensai i have a slight feeling that might be a bad bad idea, considering i want it to WORK after this lil process. |
| 18:00.55 | tensai | if VIM ceased to exist, would it cause an irreparable rift in the space time continuum or would it merely destroy life as we know it? |
| 18:01.29 | tensai | lakshmi: let it dry out *completely* before you use it. I have actually heard of people who do that although I've never tried it myself. |
| 18:02.11 | lakshmi | have those people also told you that their computer doesnt work after ? |
| 18:03.22 | jsmith | lakshmi: Just the keyboard! Not the whole computer! |
| 18:06.00 | tensai | http://www.boingboing.net/2005/05/30/clean-your-keyboard-.html |
| 18:06.14 | tensai | "I can report that not only will the keyboard come out clean, but it will probably work once it dries completely." |
| 18:11.08 | tensai | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11029793 |
| 18:11.20 | tensai | microsoft and logitech don't recommend washing it |
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| 18:12.10 | tensai | also, don't try this with your laptop keyboard |
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| 18:14.13 | elg | of course they don't |
| 18:14.47 | elg | if they recommended it then people would want their money back when they melted it |
| 18:14.59 | elg | they just can't be 100% sure it won't ruin it |
| 18:16.01 | elg | but if you have a $15 keyboard, and you really want it clean, and there's "a good chance" it'll come out just fine, what the heck try it anyway |
| 18:16.01 | elg | if your keyboard is more expensive, otoh |
| 18:16.01 | elg | s/expensive/valuable/ |
| 18:16.02 | elg | i once went swimming with a flash drive |
| 18:16.02 | elg | chlorine and all |
| 18:16.29 | elg | after letting it dry thoroughly (about a week before I dared), it worked fine |
| 18:17.10 | elg | can't imagine a keyboard having much more complexity than a flash drive. sure, you have moving parts and a flash drive is solid-state, but the moving parts are on a macro scale |
| 18:17.12 | tensai | elg: the guy in both those stories (same guy) was going to chuck his keyboard otherwise, so why not? |
| 18:17.47 | elg | exactly |
| 18:25.00 | sontek | any of you guys know a decent vps company? |
| 18:25.16 | sontek | need to get setup within the next week |
| 18:26.03 | tensai | sontek: goozbach runs one, iirc. neverblock.com |
| 18:26.18 | sontek | tensai: yeah, I've been waiting for that VPS since November, need something a little sooner |
| 18:26.49 | tensai | sontek: I had a linode a few years back and quite enjoyed it while it lasted |
| 18:26.53 | sontek | I plan on switching to them when they have the time to get it up |
| 18:27.40 | sontek | do you know what distros they support? I need Fedora 7/SUSE 10.3 (a more recent distro) because i'm using a lot of new development libraries that aren't in the more stable releases |
| 18:28.24 | sontek | right now i'm on silverrack which is great, the guy who runs it is very smart and responds within minutes whenever I have an issue |
| 18:28.27 | sontek | but hes using openvz |
| 18:28.37 | tensai | http://www.linode.com/faq.cfm#which-distributions-do-you-offer |
| 18:28.39 | sontek | which is causing a bunch of problems with packages i'm using (mainly imagemagick) |
| 18:29.08 | sontek | OpenSUSE 10.3, i'm sold ;) |
| 18:32.09 | sontek | do you know if they are full virtualization (xen, kvm) or openvz? not seeing it in the FAQ |
| 18:33.03 | tensai | sontek: kvm with xen in beta |
| 18:33.31 | tensai | I think. I'm not exactly a linode salesman or anything. |
| 18:33.49 | sontek | well, you earned a sale, so you should be :P |
| 18:34.13 | tensai | ah, uml is the acronym I was looking for. that's what linode uses. |
| 18:35.13 | fozzmoo | User Mode Linux? |
| 18:35.21 | tensai | yeah, that one |
| 18:35.42 | tensai | not that horrible diagram making thing |
| 18:36.07 | fozzmoo | Two many TLAs |
| 18:36.20 | tensai | TMT :) |
| 18:39.15 | findlay | W2M |
| 18:39.31 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 18:40.18 | findlay | histrionic endemic hydrology |
| 18:55.47 | tensai | ~lart debian for continuing to install portmap and inetd by default |
| 18:55.47 | ibot | DoSes debian for continuing to install portmap and inetd by default |
| 18:57.34 | sargun_screen | maquis: Working at amazon must suck. Your tech evangelist is talking about how often things break |
| 18:57.51 | maquis | sargun_screen: who's talking about what where? |
| 18:58.16 | maquis | sargun_screen: actually, it's pretty cool |
| 18:58.27 | maquis | we've just got hard problems :) |
| 19:01.20 | sargun_screen | maquis: Uh, I don';t know his name.. |
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| 19:01.35 | sargun_screen | He is just talking about multicast, and how the engineering group overused it |
| 19:01.37 | sargun_screen | and it sucked |
| 19:01.43 | maquis | sargun_screen: where'd you hear about it? |
| 19:01.46 | sargun_screen | NANOG |
| 19:01.48 | maquis | oh... multicast... |
| 19:01.51 | maquis | ick |
| 19:01.56 | sargun_screen | multicast kicks butt |
| 19:03.30 | redbeard2 | i have a file here that is supposed to be an openoffice.org file, but oo.o won't open it. i can unzip it and look at the raw xml files inside of it, and they look fine. are there any repair tools out there that i can use? |
| 19:04.16 | maquis | sargun_screen: in a good way, or a bad way? |
| 19:04.21 | maquis | redbeard2: vim? :P |
| 19:04.23 | sargun_screen | maquis: In a good way |
| 19:04.29 | maquis | sargun_screen: not always |
| 19:06.52 | redbeard2 | maquis: i've used vim to look inside the xml files, but it's not really a repair tool. |
| 19:08.37 | elg | redbeard2: you mean you're not really a repair tool |
| 19:09.51 | maquis | exactly :) |
| 19:10.19 | maquis | if you look really hard, i bet you could use vim as a repair tool |
| 19:10.26 | maquis | in the mean-time, does abiword open it? |
| 19:10.40 | maquis | and what's the error ooo gives? |
| 19:10.42 | sargun_screen | maquis: What's wrong with Multicast? |
| 19:11.04 | maquis | sargun_screen: since the only experience i have with it is what you're hearing about... |
| 19:12.25 | redbeard2 | maquis: oo.o asks what type of file it is. if i tell it that it's an oowriter file, it tries to repair it and ends up with a blank page. |
| 19:12.52 | maquis | did you try any of the other options? |
| 19:16.20 | sargun_screen | maquis: Oh, well they say that Amazon engineers use Multicast a lo. |
| 19:16.22 | sargun_screen | a lot. |
| 19:44.23 | levi | What problems did they have with multicast? |
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| 19:49.47 | justingiboney | i am trying to get mod_python to work with apache2 on a debian server, but I am getting a PythonHandler mod_python.publisher" error, can someone help? |
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| 20:40.18 | sontek | fozzmoo: I have a vibrating watch |
| 20:40.22 | sontek | its called my cellphone! |
| 20:40.23 | sontek | ;) |
| 20:40.31 | findlay | beandog: ping |
| 20:40.41 | fozzmoo | sontek: Yeah... now if I could just find a way to attach my cell phone to my body while I'm sleeping. |
| 20:40.53 | findlay | duct tape |
| 20:41.00 | fozzmoo | findlay: You're a genius! |
| 20:41.01 | Tene | fozzmoo: you have any interest in going to yapc::na this year? |
| 20:41.07 | fozzmoo | Tene: Sure. |
| 20:41.11 | fozzmoo | Where is it? |
| 20:41.32 | Tene | fozzmoo: chicago, iirc. |
| 20:41.40 | fozzmoo | Hmmm. When? |
| 20:41.46 | fozzmoo | I definitely want to make it to OSCON this year. |
| 20:41.50 | Tene | Late june, I think. Lemme check. |
| 20:41.59 | fozzmoo | Hmm. So that's coming up sooner. |
| 20:42.00 | fozzmoo | Cool. |
| 20:42.18 | fozzmoo | Thanks for the heads-up. |
| 20:43.32 | Tene | june 16-18 |
| 20:43.35 | beandog | findlay, pawng |
| 20:43.49 | Tene | hackathon, 19-20 |
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| 20:46.15 | rsimpkins | My kid cracks me up. He goes around singing to his ipod tunes - totally off key. |
| 20:46.29 | rsimpkins | You can sorta make out the song. |
| 21:11.14 | tensai | maquis: here's the nanog amazon presentation |
| 21:11.15 | tensai | http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0802/keynote.html |
| 21:11.21 | brac | [NANOG Abstract] |
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| 21:20.44 | keighvin | ~lart IPV4/6 ambiguity for named hosts over ssh tunnels. |
| 21:20.44 | ibot | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to IPV4/6 ambiguity, and goes postal for named hosts over ssh tunnels. |
| 21:21.13 | keighvin | Heh - not quite what I meant, but that works well enough. |
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| 21:39.00 | sjansen | http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/02/18/how-not-to-do-xml/ |
| 21:39.20 | sjansen | Is it any wonder I have so little respect for PHP "developers"? |
| 21:43.18 | Tene | sjansen: what do you mean? "tag soup" is a valid doctype, isn't it? |
| 21:43.50 | elg | I want to find all executable files in a directory |
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| 21:44.25 | Tene | elg: find . -type f /mode u+x |
| 21:44.29 | Tene | oslt |
| 21:44.36 | elg | -mode? |
| 21:44.36 | brac | mode is n. A general state, usually used with an adjective describing the state. Use of the word `mode' rather than `state' implies that the state is extended over time, and probably also that some activity characteristic of that state is being carried out. "No time to hack; I'm in thesis mode." In its jargon sense, `mode' is most often attributed to people, though it is sometimes |
| 21:44.38 | brac | applied to programs and inanimate objects. In particular, see {hack mode}, {day mode}, {night mode}, {demo mode}, {fireworks mode}, and {yoyo mode}; also {talk mode}. One also often hears the verbs `enable' and `disable' used in connection with jargon modes. Thus, for example, a sillier way of saying "I'm going to crash" is "I'm going to enable crash mode now". One might also hear |
| 21:44.39 | brac | a request to "disable flame mode, please". |
| 21:44.54 | Tene | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.21 | elg | -perm /u+x |
| 21:45.45 | sjansen | details, details |
| 21:46.02 | elg | the word mode was instrumental in searching the manpage though :) |
| 21:46.32 | Tene | I always get that one wrong |
| 21:46.50 | Tene | also what [-+/] mean for -mode |
| 21:48.30 | tensai | mmm. tag soup. great with a nice slice of no-knead bread. |
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| 22:15.47 | maquis | tensai: cool |
| 22:17.16 | fozzmoo | I hate liferay. |
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| 22:20.32 | trip0 | how do I make a diff of only the "+" files |
| 22:21.40 | trip0 | I want to merge one file into the other |
| 22:24.14 | tensai | ~hug foreign keys |
| 22:24.15 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on foreign keys and suddenly hugs foreign keys tightly |
| 22:29.21 | fozzmoo | That's just racist. |
| 22:29.38 | fozzmoo | What's wrong with native keys. You got a problem with native keys? |
| 22:29.58 | trip0 | lol |
| 22:30.31 | trip0 | native keys are infidels and must be destroyed |
| 22:30.33 | trip0 | !! |
| 22:30.57 | atoponce | or put on reservations? |
| 22:31.06 | trip0 | :p |
| 22:34.49 | Tene | trip0: I don't understand what you want to do. |
| 22:36.45 | trip0 | I want to merge one file into the other |
| 22:38.57 | Tene | trip0: and what does diff have to do with this? |
| 22:39.01 | Tene | can't you just append? |
| 22:39.16 | Tene | or... what is the current situation and what is the desired target you wish to produce? |
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| 22:44.16 | trip0 | okay, i discovered winmerge |
| 22:44.27 | trip0 | i was thinking some command line magic in cygwin would work |
| 22:48.24 | unum | my users are going to snap one of these days when I say "clear your cache" |
| 22:48.49 | fozzmoo | unum: I hope you don't work at a bank. |
| 22:48.57 | trip0 | :p |
| 22:50.39 | trip0 | wow, I just got a phishing spam message for utah community credit union |
| 22:53.37 | Heartsbane | good for you |
| 22:53.58 | fozzmoo | trip0: Yeah- I've been getting those... and Mountain America. |
| 22:55.05 | trip0 | heartsbane: not good for anyone. There are a million stupid people that are going to fall for that |
| 22:55.36 | trip0 | none of the vulgar ever look at the actual url |
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| 23:05.13 | Lakshmi | hi |
| 23:10.14 | Lakshmi | is no one alive here? |
| 23:14.03 | Heartsbane | trip0: to bad for them |
| 23:15.07 | trip0 | ... |
| 23:15.12 | trip0 | ~dance |
| 23:15.12 | ibot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 23:22.27 | trip0 | fact of the day: " you cannot read a digital clock in dreams" |
| 23:22.47 | RyanE | yeah, I don't believe that is a fact. |
| 23:22.55 | trip0 | :P |
| 23:22.57 | mrpull- | trip0: prove that "fact" |
| 23:22.58 | mrpull- | :) |
| 23:23.08 | trip0 | two secs, I'll get a source... :D |
| 23:23.18 | RyanE | just last night, in my dream, I looked at the digital clock, and thought... 'Time to get Up'... :) |
| 23:24.43 | RyanE | I'm lying, of course. :) |
| 23:24.48 | trip0 | lol |
| 23:25.10 | RyanE | but you didn't know that. :P |
| 23:27.01 | trip0 | okay, I can't find a difinitive src for that |
| 23:27.09 | trip0 | ...but you know its true |
| 23:27.11 | trip0 | :) |
| 23:27.38 | trip0 | I bet it's got something to do with lucid dreaming techniques |
| 23:27.57 | trip0 | that part of your brain is usually not active making the words blurry or mixed up |
| 23:28.30 | mrpull- | how can release notes / change logs be useful without dates? |
| 23:28.58 | trip0 | sometimes you just need to know if something was changed |
| 23:29.13 | mrpull- | AND WHEN :) |
| 23:30.17 | trip0 | meh, if I'm just looking for a specific feature addition, i don't really care when, i just care if it's there or not |
| 23:30.28 | trip0 | but i'm just being objective |
| 23:30.35 | RyanE | obviously, the date is 'before now'. :) |
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| 23:50.05 | atoponce | sjansen: i doubt any time variable is needed in your test. is there a reason you chose 5min? |
| 23:50.50 | sjansen | 'Cause I'm doing other stuff at the same time. |
| 23:50.55 | atoponce | ahh |
| 23:51.03 | findlay | ~test sjansen |
| 23:51.04 | ibot | Testing sjansen... Segmentation fault (core dumped)$#$ |
| 23:51.21 | atoponce | sjansen: so, you mean you're actually working?! |
| 23:51.44 | atoponce | ~hide findlay |
| 23:51.44 | ibot | ACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers findlay with it so that nobody can see what findlay is doing! |
| 23:52.16 | findlay | yay |
| 23:58.24 | sargun_screen | heh. |
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| 23:59.04 | atoponce | for the irssi nerds in here: how can i highlight a channel when *any* message is sent? |
| 23:59.30 | Lakshmi | huh? |
| 23:59.37 | Lakshmi | hey peoples. |
| 23:59.44 | Lakshmi | sargun_screen PM? |