| 00:00.27 | AndreSt | lehi/utah? |
| 00:00.27 | rsimpkins | Yes. |
| 00:00.27 | AndreSt | obvius :-) |
| 00:00.31 | rsimpkins | Are you from Utah, or know people from Utah? |
| 00:01.43 | AndreSt | i only have a friend in florida, we studyed fpr 1 year together |
| 00:02.06 | AndreSt | i acctually search somebody driving for me to salt lake city, earn some money :-) |
| 00:02.24 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: You want to have someone drive you to salt lake city? |
| 00:02.32 | AndreSt | no |
| 00:02.40 | AndreSt | that's way too far |
| 00:03.01 | AndreSt | somebody needs to be there |
| 00:03.18 | AndreSt | and a flight from germany is too expensive, too :-) |
| 00:03.30 | rsimpkins | I don't understand what you are looking for. Can you try again? |
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| 00:03.41 | ibot | dances the tango with fozzmoo |
| 00:04.13 | AndreSt | okay, like: there is something in SLC i need and smebody mac catch it for me, i send some money and i get it |
| 00:04.45 | AndreSt | i see, lehi has the "Center of population of utah", interesting |
| 00:05.09 | rsimpkins | You want someone to buy something for you in salt lake, or pick something up you have purcahsed? |
| 00:05.19 | AndreSt | right |
| 00:05.27 | rsimpkins | Which one? |
| 00:05.35 | rsimpkins | Do you want someone to buy something for you? |
| 00:05.39 | AndreSt | it's in the temple of the lds |
| 00:05.45 | rsimpkins | Oh, okay. |
| 00:05.49 | rsimpkins | Are you LDS? |
| 00:05.54 | AndreSt | no |
| 00:05.58 | AndreSt | you? |
| 00:06.00 | rsimpkins | Yes. |
| 00:06.03 | rsimpkins | Most of us in here are. |
| 00:06.06 | AndreSt | nice to meet you |
| 00:06.21 | AndreSt | it's about family research |
| 00:06.38 | AndreSt | may i ask you something about the lds? |
| 00:06.53 | rsimpkins | Yes. |
| 00:07.19 | AndreSt | is it possible, that i am member of lds, but my girl-friend (or later wife?) is not? |
| 00:07.53 | rsimpkins | Well, yes... but it is a bit more complicated. |
| 00:08.11 | rsimpkins | For example, if you are trying to follow the teachings of the church you would follow a moral guidline. |
| 00:08.23 | rsimpkins | Which includes a guidline for sexual morality. |
| 00:08.38 | rsimpkins | So, you can have a girlfriend, but you should be married before having sex. Does that make sense? |
| 00:08.51 | AndreSt | it does |
| 00:09.12 | rsimpkins | Also, the LDS faith has a special religious ceremony for marriages. |
| 00:09.22 | rsimpkins | You don't HAVE to be married that way, but many choose to. |
| 00:09.32 | AndreSt | what is it? |
| 00:09.34 | rsimpkins | And both people must be LDS. |
| 00:09.54 | AndreSt | she said, she is not interested |
| 00:10.08 | rsimpkins | It is a special ceremony in an LDS temple, that we believe will marry you not just for your time on Earth, but forever. |
| 00:10.11 | fozzmoo | Under LDS doctrine, you can get married civily by any person legally able to perform a marriage. |
| 00:10.41 | rsimpkins | Yes, it is important to remember that you can still get married civilly, and that's not bad. |
| 00:10.43 | AndreSt | i see |
| 00:11.05 | fozzmoo | But, yeah, once one of you dies, the marriage is over. |
| 00:11.08 | rsimpkins | Are you meeting with the missionaries in germany? |
| 00:11.09 | AndreSt | and my children, will be automitically member of lds? |
| 00:11.36 | AndreSt | they talked to me but i handn't time yet (moving) |
| 00:11.44 | fozzmoo | If you are married in an LDS temple, your children are sealed to you as children born into the covenant you and your spouse made in the temple. |
| 00:11.48 | rsimpkins | I bet they are really good guys. |
| 00:11.54 | rsimpkins | And I bet they would help you move! :) |
| 00:11.59 | fozzmoo | heh. Yep. |
| 00:12.08 | AndreSt | help me move? |
| 00:12.17 | AndreSt | i mean move like from one city to another |
| 00:12.19 | rsimpkins | To be nice, yes, I bet they would help. |
| 00:12.20 | fozzmoo | That's why "Families are Forever" is a recurring slogan in our faith. |
| 00:12.27 | rsimpkins | Or find people to help if you need it. |
| 00:12.31 | fozzmoo | AndreSt: Yeah, the missionaries will be happy to help pack and unpack. |
| 00:12.44 | fozzmoo | Carry heavy stuff, etc. |
| 00:13.20 | AndreSt | really? i'm impressed |
| 00:13.38 | fozzmoo | Service to fellow man is an important part of a missionary's mission. |
| 00:13.48 | rsimpkins | Well, they aren't a moving company - but I'm sure they would do what they could to help you. :) |
| 00:14.25 | fozzmoo | Of course, they'd want you to listen to their message in return. |
| 00:14.29 | rsimpkins | Call 'em up. They serve as volunteers. Many of us here served as missionaries too. |
| 00:14.42 | AndreSt | where have you been? |
| 00:14.57 | rsimpkins | I was a missionary for two years in Tennessee, USA. |
| 00:15.25 | rsimpkins | Young men in our church will often volunteer to serve a two year mission. |
| 00:15.27 | AndreSt | they said, they ant to meet for an quarter of an hour and give the book mormon to me |
| 00:15.41 | rsimpkins | Yeah, they want to teach you a 'discussion' |
| 00:15.56 | rsimpkins | Or bascially, an organized lesson about our church. |
| 00:16.50 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: You can get more details at mormon.org, and read the book of mormon and other details at lds.org. |
| 00:17.11 | AndreSt | i downloaded the book es ebook, but my english isn't THAT good :-) |
| 00:17.22 | rsimpkins | The book of mormon is in MANY languages. |
| 00:17.34 | AndreSt | i need it in german |
| 00:17.51 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I'm at a terminal, do you know where an electronic german version might be? |
| 00:18.07 | fozzmoo | Let me get a URL. |
| 00:18.29 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: FYI. I'm a Sr. Linux Sys Admin. Do you work with Linux much? |
| 00:18.56 | AndreSt | what means FYI? |
| 00:19.01 | fozzmoo | http://scriptures.lds.org/de/bm/ |
| 00:19.03 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: For your information. |
| 00:19.11 | AndreSt | i used to work with liux, now i am a mac-user |
| 00:19.19 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: cool. |
| 00:19.55 | AndreSt | my brother is woring for nokia in helsinki, he is using linux all the time, my twinbrothers is into M$ ;-) |
| 00:20.44 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: What was it about family history you wanted/needed? |
| 00:21.31 | AndreSt | so, as i read, members of lds do familyreasearch, and like "care for their ancestors to become meber of lds too" |
| 00:21.52 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: We do. Check out familysearch.org |
| 00:22.22 | AndreSt | right |
| 00:22.31 | rsimpkins | A big Linux cluster powers that thing, so I have been told. |
| 00:22.54 | AndreSt | i do research for a year or two, and read about lds during this time |
| 00:23.10 | rsimpkins | You were doing geneology? |
| 00:23.14 | AndreSt | yes |
| 00:23.21 | rsimpkins | Great. |
| 00:23.29 | rsimpkins | A lot of people are interested in their ancestors. |
| 00:23.32 | AndreSt | but now, IGI can't help me anymore |
| 00:23.36 | rsimpkins | IGI? |
| 00:23.53 | AndreSt | international geneology index, "familysearch.org" |
| 00:24.21 | rsimpkins | Ahh... |
| 00:24.31 | rsimpkins | There is a local company here that has a lot of additional resources: http://www.ancestry.com/ |
| 00:24.58 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: Also, call up the missionaries and tell them you want to find the local 'family history center' -- not sure what that is in German. |
| 00:25.15 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: The family history center should have someone local who can help you. It is free to the public. |
| 00:25.29 | AndreSt | they have some films from 1650-1879, but most of the data from the town goes onyl back to 1750 or something |
| 00:25.36 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: They can also request thigns from Salt Lake City for you if needed. I think they charge a very small fee. |
| 00:27.08 | AndreSt | the problem is, that german archives don't allow to see that films anywhere in europa |
| 00:27.25 | AndreSt | "No circulation to family history enters in Europe" |
| 00:28.18 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: Where does it say that? |
| 00:28.31 | AndreSt | wait |
| 00:29.19 | AndreSt | http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetailsprint.asp?titleno=182886 |
| 00:29.19 | brac | [Family History Library Catalog] |
| 00:29.22 | AndreSt | for example |
| 00:30.42 | rsimpkins | There may be a law preventing that from being distributed. |
| 00:31.03 | rsimpkins | I believe there are some legall issues, esspecially in Germany. And, it is complicated if you have Jewish ancestory. |
| 00:31.22 | rsimpkins | or you want to access records with Jewish names. |
| 00:31.43 | AndreSt | my best-freind is woring in the archive |
| 00:32.02 | AndreSt | he told me, that they don't want to circulate because they make no money with that |
| 00:32.16 | rsimpkins | That doesn't make much sense. |
| 00:32.29 | AndreSt | i heard, if you go to SLC you can burn the films directly to cd |
| 00:32.55 | rsimpkins | The resources are extensive, but it might be time consuming to get at them. |
| 00:33.01 | AndreSt | oh, it makes sense. if you go to archive, you have to pay, if they search, you have to pay |
| 00:33.36 | rsimpkins | If you have to pay, I would imagine it wouldn't be very much money. |
| 00:33.59 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: Geneology is NOT a profit center for the church, they don't do it to make money. They loose money. Tons and tons of money. :) |
| 00:34.02 | Sargun | rsimpkins, you don't use doctypes? |
| 00:34.29 | AndreSt | rsimpkins: i know, that lds doesn't make money with that!! |
| 00:34.34 | rsimpkins | Sargun: that's random. What? |
| 00:34.50 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: Oh, I misunderstood then. Sorry. |
| 00:36.21 | Sargun | rsimpkins, apparently you pasted HTML without a doctype |
| 00:36.27 | rsimpkins | Sargun: I did? |
| 00:36.30 | rsimpkins | Sargun: What? |
| 00:36.38 | rsimpkins | Sargun: What are you even talking about? |
| 00:36.43 | Sargun | nevermind |
| 00:36.57 | rsimpkins | I'm confuzzled. |
| 00:37.09 | AndreSt | what time is it in utah now? |
| 00:37.18 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: 5:30PM |
| 00:37.30 | AndreSt | pm like in the evening? |
| 00:37.32 | rsimpkins | Sat Feb 9 17:37:27 MST 2008 |
| 00:37.46 | AndreSt | okay |
| 00:38.18 | AndreSt | have you heard of burning films on cd at the fhc in slc? |
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| 00:39.14 | rsimpkins | Yes, but i've not done it. I don't know what it takes to do it. |
| 00:39.43 | AndreSt | what makes "takes to do it"? |
| 00:40.03 | AndreSt | makes=menaes |
| 00:40.17 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: I don't know how to do it. |
| 00:40.22 | AndreSt | it's like 1 hour and 40 minutes after midnight here, i'm sorry |
| 00:40.47 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: I would really recommend getting in contact with the local family history center near you. |
| 00:40.54 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: The experts there will tell you how to get at that stuff. |
| 00:40.57 | herlo | AndreSt: curious, here are you? |
| 00:40.59 | herlo | where |
| 00:41.01 | Sargun | Anyone here read lolita? |
| 00:41.12 | rsimpkins | herlo: Is is in .de |
| 00:41.34 | herlo | Germany |
| 00:41.41 | herlo | TimRiker: that's normal |
| 00:41.41 | AndreSt | they will tell me how to get that stuff? i think, there is no way |
| 00:41.49 | Sargun | Weeee, I can fit the world in 13 Megs :-D |
| 00:42.00 | rsimpkins | AndreSt: They can tell you what you have to do to get it. |
| 00:42.05 | herlo | TimRiker: bigfox in Ubuntu-us-ut should be there soon if not Zelut |
| 00:42.07 | TimRiker | herlo: :) yeah, so I hop online and waste time.. er, get productive checking email. |
| 00:42.16 | herlo | hehe |
| 00:42.43 | TimRiker | had some other errands to run, and they took less time than expected. |
| 00:42.56 | herlo | TimRiker: I'm looking forward to comparing deb construction with rpm construction after listening to your presentation |
| 00:43.13 | rsimpkins | I love it when I accidently type a macro key. :) |
| 00:43.16 | herlo | although I'll have to listen after SCaLE tonight or soemthing |
| 00:43.19 | TimRiker | hehe. I added some rpm info in there too for the curious. but it's just the basics. |
| 00:43.35 | herlo | yah, all I need |
| 00:43.52 | TimRiker | rsimpkins: try ctrl-q. |
| 00:43.55 | TimRiker | ~backwards |
| 00:44.05 | ibot | Did you know, Ctrl-Q makes your text go backwards in many IRC clients? You might be able to read this: .stneilc tsom sesolc tsuj siht esruoc fO |
| 00:44.05 | TimRiker | aw... |
| 00:44.12 | TimRiker | ah. just laggy. |
| 00:44.39 | rsimpkins | hehe |
| 00:45.17 | AndreSt | guys, i go to bed now |
| 00:45.27 | AndreSt | i look forward to see you the other day |
| 00:45.27 | Sargun | AndreSt, Night. |
| 00:45.31 | AndreSt | good night |
| 00:45.34 | AndreSt | thanks |
| 00:45.40 | Sargun | ibot, I doubt that |
| 00:45.40 | ibot | You doubt that? |
| 00:45.47 | Sargun | ibot, yes. |
| 00:45.48 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 00:45.52 | Sargun | ibot, no. |
| 00:45.53 | ibot | YES |
| 00:45.58 | Sargun | ibot, dance |
| 00:45.58 | ibot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 00:46.02 | Sargun | o.O |
| 00:46.08 | Sargun | ibot, vulgar |
| 00:46.59 | Sargun | ibot, futurama |
| 00:46.59 | ibot | i guess futurama is a new series by matt groening. futurama is teh win |
| 00:47.03 | Sargun | ibot, family guy |
| 00:47.03 | ibot | rumour has it, family guy is the most redundantly boring cartoon on Earth which uses the same nonsensical flashback mechanism over and over to attain cheap laughs. |
| 00:47.14 | Sargun | ibot, good bot.. |
| 00:47.14 | ibot | :), Sargun |
| 00:47.30 | Sargun | ~botsnack |
| 00:47.30 | ibot | aw, gee, Sargun |
| 00:51.40 | TimRiker | k. 10 min to go, think anyone is there? /me gets ready to walk over again. |
| 00:59.22 | TimRiker | brb |
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| 01:27.05 | Sargun | ~bzflag |
| 01:27.09 | ibot | i heard bzflag is a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (win32, linux, mac, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interuptions. See also TimRiker |
| 01:27.14 | brac | [BZFlag - home] |
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| 01:31.32 | sjansen | help me ibot, you're my only hope |
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| 01:46.09 | Supaplex | ibot: TimRiker |
| 01:46.24 | ibot | rumour has it, timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
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| 03:26.19 | Lakshmi | ~sargun |
| 03:26.19 | ibot | rumour has it, sargun is amazing. |
| 03:26.25 | Lakshmi | no he isnt |
| 03:26.29 | Lakshmi | ibot no |
| 03:26.30 | ibot | YES |
| 03:26.33 | Lakshmi | nope |
| 04:14.00 | rsimpkins | Anyone know if Comcast supports incoming/outgoing mail servers? |
| 04:14.31 | rsimpkins | ~seen sargun |
| 04:14.34 | ibot | sargun is currently on #botpark (5h 7m 9s) #maemo (5h 7m 10s) #utah (5h 7m 10s). Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 2h 47m 29s, last said: '~bzflag'. |
| 04:16.05 | Sargun | I'm not here |
| 04:16.12 | Sargun | rsimpkins, what do you mean "support it" |
| 04:16.35 | Sargun | Allow it? |
| 04:17.34 | rsimpkins | allow it. |
| 04:18.00 | rsimpkins | i'm going to fiddle with my server and want a home box to be the secondary while I fix it. |
| 04:27.14 | vontrapp | ok, there's this cronjob running, and it's been going all day long |
| 04:27.46 | vontrapp | it's running some bills, and it successfully runs about 1 every minute or so |
| 04:28.02 | vontrapp | and there's about 600 |
| 04:28.19 | vontrapp | now it shouldn't be taking 1 minute per, it should be a lot faster |
| 04:28.29 | vontrapp | top on the server shows no abnormal cpu or memory usage |
| 04:28.39 | vontrapp | i have no clue why it would be going slow |
| 04:28.58 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: dmesg output show anything odd? |
| 04:30.38 | vontrapp | looks like there's bootup stuff, then a UDP: bad checksum |
| 04:30.41 | vontrapp | that's all |
| 04:30.57 | vontrapp | the udp thing there's only one of them |
| 04:31.37 | vontrapp | /var/log/messages doesn't show anything but ssh logins |
| 04:31.47 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: mmkay, how about iostat -x 5 |
| 04:31.54 | rsimpkins | Disks doing anything whacky? |
| 04:31.59 | rsimpkins | Degraded RAID? |
| 04:32.07 | rsimpkins | Is this RAID? |
| 04:32.50 | vontrapp | %util is 0.1 |
| 04:32.53 | vontrapp | avg |
| 04:33.15 | rsimpkins | k, My guess is something the script relies on in is slow. |
| 04:33.23 | rsimpkins | like, a remote service, a database, etc. |
| 04:33.28 | vontrapp | it could be mysql... |
| 04:33.35 | rsimpkins | do a show processlist; |
| 04:33.44 | rsimpkins | See any really long running queries? |
| 04:33.57 | vontrapp | there's four |
| 04:34.11 | vontrapp | bigest time row is 181 |
| 04:34.23 | rsimpkins | That is kind of a long query. |
| 04:34.24 | vontrapp | command says Sleep |
| 04:34.30 | rsimpkins | Oh, nm then. |
| 04:34.51 | rsimpkins | can you strace one of the jobs so you can see where it slows down? |
| 04:35.11 | vontrapp | can i strace it without restarting it? |
| 04:35.24 | vontrapp | if it gets interupted things get messy |
| 04:35.27 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: strace -p <pid> |
| 04:35.28 | rsimpkins | ctrl+c to disconnect. |
| 04:35.36 | rsimpkins | It shouldn't, but there is a risk. |
| 04:36.05 | rsimpkins | Every now and then I'll have a process I connect to freak out, and stop. |
| 04:36.13 | rsimpkins | It is rare though. |
| 04:36.45 | vontrapp | lets see, it's hung on "poll(" right now |
| 04:36.53 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: Also, can you fill us in on the server type? RAID array? ECC? Is this enterprise class gear we are dealing with? |
| 04:37.02 | vontrapp | just before that was a connect(), with return -1 EINPROGRESS |
| 04:37.26 | vontrapp | RHEL |
| 04:37.34 | vontrapp | not sure if it's raid |
| 04:37.35 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: http://linux.die.net/man/2/poll |
| 04:37.38 | brac | [poll(2): wait for some event on file descriptor - Linux man page] |
| 04:37.45 | Sargun | rsimpkins, sorry for the slow response, but it depends on your ComCast branch, and account |
| 04:37.58 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: see what file descripotrs it has open and figure out which one is slow. |
| 04:38.04 | Sargun | vontrapp, what are you talking about? Why are you playing with Non-Blocking I/O? |
| 04:38.41 | Sargun | What does top say? |
| 04:39.11 | vontrapp | top says all is calm |
| 04:39.28 | Sargun | what's the process's state |
| 04:39.41 | Sargun | "lsof|grep $PID" says what? |
| 04:39.55 | rsimpkins | Don't do that. |
| 04:39.55 | Sargun | netstat -alpn|grep $PID |
| 04:40.00 | Sargun | rsimpkins, why not? |
| 04:40.00 | rsimpkins | For crying out loud. |
| 04:40.04 | vontrapp | great, no lsof |
| 04:40.25 | Sargun | there is like lsof -$SOMEARG $PID |
| 04:40.42 | Sargun | lsof -p $PID |
| 04:40.46 | Sargun | says what? |
| 04:41.03 | vontrapp | oh, it's there, just not in path |
| 04:41.22 | Sargun | netstat -alpn|grep $PID |
| 04:41.27 | Sargun | uh, what are you getting |
| 04:41.34 | vontrapp | ok, there's a bunch of .so, then there's a few pipes |
| 04:41.47 | vontrapp | then a /tmp/session_blah (deleted) |
| 04:41.56 | Sargun | pipes to what |
| 04:41.58 | vontrapp | could it be waiting on the deleted session thing? |
| 04:42.04 | vontrapp | just says pipe |
| 04:42.34 | vontrapp | then there's this one |
| 04:42.35 | vontrapp | php 23287 daemon 5u IPv4 34362271 TCP www.realestatenutz.com:41070->tsn2000.com:https (SYN_SENT) |
| 04:42.54 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: Well, that would be an external service, wouldn't it? |
| 04:43.12 | Sargun | which host are you |
| 04:43.18 | vontrapp | the first one |
| 04:43.22 | vontrapp | realestatenutz |
| 04:43.47 | Sargun | you guys really couldn't come up with an odder name? |
| 04:44.06 | vontrapp | who cares what the name is |
| 04:44.36 | Sargun | uh, tsn2k seems to be down |
| 04:44.47 | vontrapp | that tsn2000.com is the same address as the connect wants, just before the poll that waits forever |
| 04:45.01 | Sargun | uh |
| 04:45.10 | Sargun | you guys are probably doing something with tsn2000? |
| 04:45.17 | vontrapp | probably |
| 04:45.17 | Sargun | Didn't you write the script? |
| 04:45.25 | vontrapp | that's probably our merchant account or something |
| 04:45.34 | vontrapp | no, i just took over a week ago |
| 04:45.42 | Sargun | Why would realestatenutz work withNatural Health & Wellness Alternatives - Over 4000 Natural Health ... |
| 04:45.42 | Sargun | Your Source for Natural Alternatives. Over 4000 Natural Health and Wellness Products, including Dietary Supplements, Bulk Hebs & Teas, Vitamins etc. with a ... |
| 04:45.42 | Sargun | www.tsn2000.com/ - 8k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this |
| 04:45.46 | Sargun | oh, fun |
| 04:45.55 | Sargun | What language is it written in? |
| 04:46.09 | Sargun | java |
| 04:46.17 | vontrapp | ok... so how can i make it time out quicker on the down website? |
| 04:46.21 | vontrapp | php |
| 04:46.51 | vontrapp | some os setting maybe? |
| 04:48.03 | Sargun | well |
| 04:48.04 | Sargun | wait |
| 04:48.08 | Sargun | if you are hitting them |
| 04:48.15 | Sargun | there is probably a reason, right? |
| 04:50.18 | Lakshmi | who wants to write my astronomy hw for me!? |
| 04:50.23 | Lakshmi | any takers? |
| 04:51.41 | vontrapp | ok, well i guess we let this one ride out, comment out the part that wants tsn2000 for the ones that are going to run next |
| 04:51.58 | Sargun | uhhhhh |
| 04:52.12 | Sargun | What is you need tsn2000 for like |
| 04:52.19 | Sargun | account backups |
| 04:52.30 | Sargun | maybe the previous employee in ran tsn2000 |
| 04:52.35 | Sargun | and hosted all the chunky code there |
| 04:52.48 | Sargun | Have one of your programmers look at the code that pokes tsn2000 |
| 04:52.50 | Sargun | or post it |
| 04:52.53 | Sargun | and we'll look at it |
| 04:53.00 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: This is a new job you have? |
| 04:53.05 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: Are you the sys admin or something? |
| 04:53.10 | vontrapp | nah, i know what it wants from tsn2000 |
| 04:53.16 | vontrapp | we can worry about that later |
| 04:53.26 | Sargun | vontrapp, what does it want from tsn2000? |
| 04:53.30 | Sargun | yeah, just comment it out |
| 04:53.46 | Sargun | or host the resource elsewhere? |
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| 04:56.14 | vontrapp | Sargun: we don't control tsn2000 |
| 04:56.17 | vontrapp | we interface to them |
| 04:56.28 | Sargun | they seem like a spam site/weight loss site |
| 04:56.29 | vontrapp | we'll just have to rerun some stuff when the get back online |
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| 04:56.41 | Sargun | "Natural Health & Wellness Alternatives - Over 4000 Natural Health ..." |
| 04:58.03 | Sargun | vontrapp, I'd just comment that area out |
| 04:59.14 | Supaplex | I wonder if there's any left over 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865132823066470938446095 in the fridge |
| 04:59.41 | Sargun | Supaplex, send them my way |
| 05:01.26 | Supaplex | I don't think there's even 0.3926990816987241548078304229099378605246461749218882276218680740384770507857761248285043531677646334977685108141602883308867305761 left for you ;) |
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| 05:16.15 | Lakshmi | you guys are funny funny |
| 05:20.49 | sjansen | Really? We don't mean to be. We'll have to do something about that. |
| 05:22.48 | Lakshmi | sjansen you should |
| 05:22.58 | Lakshmi | ~entertain lakshmi |
| 05:23.08 | ibot | ACTION shows lakshmi family photos while break dancing on black and white movie reels |
| 05:23.27 | Lakshmi | thats not entertainment! |
| 05:24.42 | Sargun | Who here is from BYU |
| 05:24.57 | Sargun | Lakshmi, Is findlay from BYU? |
| 05:25.27 | Lakshmi | Sargun nope i dont think so |
| 05:25.34 | Lakshmi | wait BYU |
| 05:25.36 | Lakshmi | not BU |
| 05:25.40 | Sargun | Lakshmi, Do you know anyone here from BYU |
| 05:25.42 | Lakshmi | hmm Sargun he could be |
| 05:25.48 | Lakshmi | im pretty sure i do |
| 05:25.52 | Sargun | Lakshmi, He is single and looking, right? |
| 05:26.07 | Lakshmi | uh sure? |
| 05:27.01 | sjansen | Lakshmi: He's a time waster. Try to determine ibot's gender. |
| 05:27.04 | sjansen | ~gender |
| 05:27.04 | ibot | I'm female |
| 05:27.15 | sjansen | ~gender |
| 05:27.15 | ibot | I'm male |
| 05:27.27 | Sargun | Uh, can we have him over to some chick's dorm to get past the BYU firewall/content filtering stuff? |
| 05:27.35 | sjansen | ~gender |
| 05:27.35 | ibot | I'm sexless |
| 05:28.24 | sjansen | Whoa. This is the first time I've ever heard Jazz combined with native american singing. |
| 05:29.03 | Lakshmi | Sargun why? |
| 05:29.44 | Sargun | Lakshmi, why not? |
| 05:30.02 | Lakshmi | but WHY? |
| 05:30.10 | Lakshmi | is there a point? |
| 05:30.13 | Sargun | uh |
| 05:30.38 | Sargun | findlay + chick + proxy = (++findlay)+ (++chick) |
| 05:30.52 | sjansen | ~point |
| 05:30.52 | ibot | [point] that the SYN packets fill up the TCP backlog, so no legitimate clients can connect |
| 05:31.08 | sjansen | ibot: you lost me |
| 05:33.30 | sjansen | gnucash++ |
| 05:36.14 | sjansen | Lakshmi: You want entertainment? Update you check book, savings and credit card accounts in GnuCash. |
| 05:36.43 | Lakshmi | sjansen how bout i write my paper on hubble, and do all my astronomy hw and we call it even? |
| 05:39.43 | sjansen | Your call. But that won't lead to pretty graphs to help you discover your spending 5% of you income on jalapeno stuffed olives and velvet elvis paintings. |
| 05:41.26 | sjansen | The first six months establishing a habit of updating GnuCash is kinda boring, but eventually you have enough data to generate all kinds of custom reports. Then it gets fun. |
| 06:13.29 | sontek | sjansen: depends, are they black or green olives |
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| 06:22.17 | helix400 | This is me right now working on my linux box: http://xkcd.com/349/ |
| 06:22.22 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 06:22.56 | helix400 | now, i've backtracked to this. My linux box has the IP address 192.168.1.6. It can ping the router (and anywhere else on the internet). But the router cannot ping it. |
| 06:23.01 | Sargun | let me guess, its the sinking one |
| 06:23.05 | Sargun | yay |
| 06:23.08 | Sargun | I was right |
| 06:23.11 | helix400 | yep :) |
| 06:23.24 | helix400 | it happened before...and I came back later, and the problem went away |
| 06:23.30 | Sargun | helix400, What is your router |
| 06:23.35 | helix400 | linksys wrt54g |
| 06:23.43 | Sargun | with what on it |
| 06:23.50 | helix400 | stupid linksys firmware |
| 06:23.56 | helix400 | (i bought the non-linuxable version) |
| 06:24.05 | helix400 | (and I just made up the word linuxable) |
| 06:24.15 | Sargun | oh |
| 06:24.24 | Sargun | it has some sort of LG |
| 06:24.28 | Sargun | to check pingability |
| 06:24.59 | helix400 | eh? |
| 06:25.01 | helix400 | LG? |
| 06:25.07 | Sargun | looking glass |
| 06:25.45 | helix400 | hmm... |
| 06:26.14 | helix400 | one more thing to add to it: If I tell my router to forward port 22 to 192.168.1.6, then I can ssh into my linux box from the outside |
| 06:26.21 | helix400 | does that fit your theory? |
| 06:27.47 | helix400 | not being snarky, just wondering :) |
| 06:37.55 | helix400 | bleh, tcpdump says that the linux server is receiving the ping, it's just responding. |
| 06:41.51 | helix400 | aaah, the eth0 was in the way. I disabled that, and the wifi thing started working great |
| 06:45.03 | Sargun | ok |
| 06:45.06 | Sargun | good job! |
| 06:45.50 | helix400 | now I can work down my "problem stack". Next step...giving my linux server a netbios name |
| 06:45.54 | helix400 | any clues? :) |
| 06:46.32 | Sargun | oh |
| 06:46.34 | Sargun | god |
| 06:46.36 | Sargun | RUN! |
| 06:48.23 | helix400 | ya, that's probably a good idea right about now |
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| 06:51.41 | nick125 | Why in the world would you want to give your server a NETB..B...B............I can't even say it. |
| 06:52.39 | Sargun | Scheme, Lua, Erlang |
| 06:52.45 | Sargun | not PHP |
| 06:52.56 | nick125 | Sargun: C#! |
| 06:53.44 | Sargun | Scheme, Lua, Erlang are the choices |
| 06:53.52 | Sargun | I have ruby, but hate it |
| 06:55.09 | nick125 | Sargun: You could use ((((((((((((((((lisp)))))))))))))))))))) |
| 06:55.59 | Sargun | (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((no))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
| 06:56.09 | Sargun | 39*2+2 |
| 06:56.14 | nick125 | (((((((((((why not?))))))))) |
| 06:58.07 | Sargun | ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((because of all these parens)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
| 06:58.38 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.38 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.38 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.44 | nick125 | (((((((((((((((((((((((((but parens are cool)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
| 06:59.47 | Sargun | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 06:59.47 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:59.47 | Sargun | NameError: name 'printlisp' is not defined |
| 06:59.57 | Sargun | ((((((((((((((hi)))))))))))))) |
| 07:00.08 | Sargun | ((((((((((((((((((((((((no, screw parens. Everyone hates them!)))))))))))))))))))))))) |
| 07:06.44 | Lakshmi | sargun, how many paragraphs would you write me for $6.71? |
| 07:06.49 | Lakshmi | anyone? |
| 07:07.00 | Lakshmi | want 6 dollars? to write 3 paragraphs? |
| 07:07.04 | Lakshmi | nick125 ? |
| 07:07.11 | Lakshmi | do you want money? |
| 07:08.34 | Sargun | mechanical turk? |
| 07:17.40 | Sargun | nick125, |
| 07:19.01 | helix400 | nick, i have to give it a netbios name for samba |
| 07:19.13 | helix400 | so we can use our windows computers and access a samba share easily |
| 07:19.24 | helix400 | and mostly, because I've been trying to do it for hours, and I don't want to give up now |
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| 15:17.07 | ibot | dances the tango with fozzmoo |
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| 16:11.53 | sontek | did you guys know lenovo sells laptops with SUSE on them? I didn't :P |
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| 16:31.20 | herlo | sontek: yep, they've been doing that for almost a year now IIRC |
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| 18:51.17 | Sargun | hi |
| 19:04.15 | Sargun | """Chelsea Clinton (R) is worried that she may lose her boyfriend Ian Klaus (L). [google]""" |
| 19:04.21 | Sargun | Liberal? |
| 19:04.50 | Sargun | Do they really need to point out who it left/right in a two-person picture with a female and a male? |
| 19:04.54 | Sargun | Is it really that hard to tell? |
| 19:05.08 | Sargun | """ |
| 19:05.08 | Sargun | Friends say Chelsea is hitting the sauce like she did during her party-harty days at Oxford University because she's worried about losing the two most important men in her life--her dad Bill and her boyfriend, Ian Klaus,""" |
| 19:05.11 | Sargun | THE SAUCE! |
| 19:06.55 | nick125 | Sargun: Isn't it a bit early in the morning for politics? |
| 19:07.06 | Sargun | nick125, I'm reading chinadaily |
| 19:07.13 | Sargun | to see how much someone can screw things up |
| 19:08.21 | Sargun | """ |
| 19:08.21 | Sargun | STOCKHOLM - Scientists plan to launch 60 tiny fish on a zero gravity rocket ride from above the Arctic Circle on Monday to try to plumb the secrets of motion sickness.""" |
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| 19:08.55 | Sargun | """ China's wind power generation up 95% in 2007""" |
| 19:09.04 | Sargun | but you are still the biggest polluter out there |
| 19:15.30 | Sargun | why is weird news on sfgate's url: http://www.sfgate.com/news/bondage/ |
| 19:15.35 | brac | [Weird News — Strange Stories From Around The Globe, Bondage File — SFGate] |
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| 19:57.41 | AndreSt | hi |
| 19:59.59 | Sargun | hi AndreSt |
| 20:00.56 | AndreSt | what's up, Sargun? |
| 20:02.39 | Sargun | Not much, you? |
| 20:03.19 | AndreSt | nonot much |
| 20:03.36 | AndreSt | i'm home at my family now, later i go back home |
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| 22:02.12 | maquis | hrm... |
| 22:02.22 | maquis | ld can't find a library |
| 22:02.40 | maquis | how do i point at the library and say "it's right there?" |
| 22:02.43 | maquis | ? |
| 22:26.36 | elg | maquis: LD_LIBRARY_PATH maybe? |
| 22:27.32 | maquis | elg: ah... that might be what i was looking for :) |
| 22:27.41 | maquis | trying to get sme things set up on my olpc |
| 22:28.38 | elg | http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/_/ldpath.html |
| 22:28.58 | elg | you shouldn't probably use LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the long term, but find the right way to fix the problem |
| 22:36.29 | Tene | Woah, xah lee has something useful. |
| 23:00.05 | Sargun | ? |
| 23:07.55 | Tene | Sargun: I'm familiar with xah from another community... |
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