| 00:04.11 | Tene | http://use.perl.org/~JonathanWorthington/journal/35610 |
| 00:08.02 | sontek | Jonathan Worthington was the guy writing the CLI transformation into Parrot |
| 00:08.14 | sontek | hes a smart guy =) |
| 00:08.56 | Tene | He really is. |
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| 00:19.04 | tensai | heh. that's pretty funny. |
| 00:19.26 | tensai | user calls in because his dsl isn't working. we ask if he's changed anything on his phone line. he says no. |
| 00:19.52 | tensai | well turns out he was disconnected by qwest for non-payment. that's a pretty big change, imho. |
| 00:20.25 | bsdice | where do you work |
| 00:20.35 | bsdice | Draper Telco |
| 00:21.25 | nick125 | tensai: hahaha |
| 00:22.05 | nick125 | "Qwest is being unfair to me!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY DISCONNECTED MY SERVICE WHEN I DIDN'T PAY THE BILL?!?! Damn them!!! QWEST SUCKS!!!" |
| 00:22.47 | nick125 | tensai: Post in question: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19867612-I-wouldn146t-wish-Qwest-Service-on-my-worst-enemy |
| 00:22.53 | brac | [I wouldn146;t wish Qwest Service on my worst enemy... - dslreports.com] |
| 00:23.50 | tensai | nick125: they actually reconnected his dialtone which is why he didn't realize. they just dropped the data portion. |
| 00:24.32 | nick125 | tensai: That's unusual...but I guess with all of the 911 regulation stuff, they have to be much more lenient on disconnecting voice. |
| 00:25.01 | tensai | even without dialtone, 911 is supposed to work. that's what I've heard anyway. never had the opportunity to check it out. |
| 00:25.16 | nick125 | I've heard the same |
| 00:25.44 | tensai | also the fcc has rules about disconnecting service. they're a lot more lenient on data and less so on voice. I'm guess that's what happened. |
| 00:25.54 | tensai | especially considering the deregulation of dsl last year |
| 00:25.58 | tensai | ~lart fcc |
| 00:25.58 | ibot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays fcc in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
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| 00:31.13 | bsdice | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.59 | tensai | why thank you |
| 00:32.38 | levi | bsdice: Who are 'you guys'? |
| 00:33.17 | bsdice | everyone except me :) |
| 00:33.40 | bsdice | I was really looking for some rural experiences |
| 00:33.54 | bsdice | and you talk about disconnecting non paying DSL customers |
| 00:33.58 | bsdice | that is not rural USA |
| 00:36.40 | levi | You came to #utah for a rural experience? |
| 00:36.55 | levi | Rather, you came to IRC for a rural experience? |
| 00:37.06 | findlay | ~rural |
| 00:38.30 | bsdice | why not |
| 00:39.09 | bsdice | not expecting you talking about cows all night |
| 00:39.18 | bsdice | but more about cars |
| 00:39.19 | bsdice | girls |
| 00:39.23 | bsdice | burgers |
| 00:39.32 | findlay | ~lart girls |
| 00:39.32 | ibot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at girls |
| 00:39.32 | Tene | where did you get that expectation from? |
| 00:39.42 | levi | I like girls. I'm married to one. |
| 00:39.43 | bsdice | my head ;) |
| 00:39.45 | levi | I like cars, too. |
| 00:39.48 | findlay | Tene: me obviously |
| 00:39.57 | Tene | The only time girls are mentioned here is when findlay is ranting about them. |
| 00:40.06 | bsdice | oh k |
| 00:40.21 | findlay | should be fun |
| 00:40.24 | levi | Tene: Or when we're talking about 'toys'. :P |
| 00:40.27 | bsdice | so what is a channel full of findlays? |
| 00:40.28 | findlay | once I get the ball joint off |
| 00:40.53 | findlay | and it'll be cold too :( |
| 00:41.08 | bsdice | did you wreck your car |
| 00:41.08 | Tene | levi: I don't remember that conversation. |
| 00:41.16 | findlay | hopefully I can do it in my parents garage |
| 00:41.49 | findlay | bsdice: no, but the drive bearings are worn down so bad the car jerks every time you touch the gas pedal |
| 00:41.51 | levi | Tene: It was sparked by the controversy over the new Blue Boutique location. |
| 00:42.05 | findlay | about 2.8 cm |
| 00:42.10 | levi | findlay: I've got air tools in my garage now. :) |
| 00:42.10 | Tene | What location, and why was it controversial? |
| 00:42.20 | findlay | levi: I'm jealous |
| 00:42.23 | levi | findlay: And it's somewhat heated. |
| 00:44.52 | findlay | levi: my parents have a couple of extra rolls of insulation that I'm going to put up against the bottom of the roof before I start :) |
| 00:44.57 | bsdice | I'm in the market for a new car |
| 00:45.03 | findlay | s/bottom/underside/ |
| 00:45.09 | bsdice | skoda octavia rs 200hp |
| 00:45.19 | findlay | bsdice: get a Tesla! |
| 00:45.32 | bsdice | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.44 | bsdice | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.56 | Tene | http://web.meson.org/blazonserver/index.php?blazon=Vert+on+a+pile+inverted+sable+three+billets+argent+and+a+chief+azure&format=png |
| 00:46.00 | bsdice | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.48 | levi | I'd like the car the guy at dpcars.net it building. |
| 00:51.54 | levi | s/it/is/ |
| 00:55.12 | levi | I also want an Ariel Atom. |
| 00:56.59 | tensai | bsdice: I'm thinking of raising some chickens this summer. still working out the logistics. |
| 00:57.04 | tensai | that rural enough for ya? |
| 00:57.32 | tensai | friend of mine raised a few in his garage last year |
| 00:57.59 | tensai | we're going to buy a freezer with our tax refund. my plan is to load it up with chicken carcasses. |
| 00:59.13 | bsdice | I dig chicks |
| 01:00.21 | bsdice | chickens are stupid but cool in a way |
| 01:02.54 | bsdice | I'm off zZzzz cu around my rural friends :-) |
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| 01:04.59 | levi | Apparently someone's got an Atom in Utah. |
| 01:07.17 | levi | http://www.brammo.com/images/UsedCars/11972291141_thmb.jpg |
| 01:09.16 | levi | Here's the DP1 car: http://dpcars.net/dp1/index.htm |
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| 02:18.34 | maquis | my team rocks |
| 02:30.48 | herlo | what team? |
| 02:31.01 | herlo | the seahawks? didn't they lose to the Packers |
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| 03:07.38 | tensai | herlo: maquis plays roller-bingo |
| 03:08.58 | herlo | tensai: cool, but I kinda wonder about that |
| 03:09.11 | findlay | ~wonder herlo |
| 03:16.39 | findlay | there's no good movies out right now |
| 03:16.52 | findlay | do they not know how to make good movies anymore? |
| 03:17.05 | findlay | herlo: do something about it |
| 03:17.14 | findlay | I'm bored |
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| 03:31.05 | tripzero | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvd90ucOvUY |
| 03:33.25 | dataw0lf | findlay: I dunno, Juno was ok. |
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| 03:38.24 | findlay | ~date |
| 03:38.24 | ibot | It is now 2008.02.08 3:38:24 GMT |
| 03:47.25 | goozbach | ~seen fozzmoo |
| 03:47.27 | ibot | fozzmoo is currently on #utos (2h 8m 5s) #utah (2h 8m 5s), last said: ':-D'. |
| 03:51.18 | dataw0lf | whoa. 7 people shot in Kirkwood, Missouri, including the mayor and two police officers. 5 are dead. |
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| 04:07.02 | tripzero | why? |
| 04:07.19 | tripzero | oh, shot |
| 04:07.22 | tripzero | nvm |
| 04:13.46 | tripzero | oh good, it wasn't mm that shot 5 people in Mo. |
| 04:14.32 | Sargun | MM? |
| 04:14.39 | tripzero | mm_202 |
| 04:14.52 | tripzero | a buddy I know in mo |
| 04:15.17 | tripzero | he said he would brb and I haven't seen him back yet |
| 04:16.13 | Sargun | dataw0lf, Wow. |
| 04:16.17 | Sargun | Crap. |
| 04:16.35 | Sargun | tripzero, How do you know it isn't him? |
| 04:20.38 | nick125 | Sargun: hey |
| 04:21.08 | tripzero | I looked up the story. His name doesn't match the shooters name |
| 04:21.19 | tripzero | I was worried cuz he just got un-engaged |
| 04:21.31 | tripzero | and he's a gun person |
| 04:21.51 | Sargun | o.O |
| 04:21.52 | Sargun | tripzero, Did he get shot? |
| 04:25.09 | tripzero | :\ |
| 04:26.42 | Sargun | I wouldn't worry |
| 04:26.50 | Sargun | I mean how many people live in Kirkwood |
| 04:27.07 | tripzero | probably a lot less now |
| 04:27.19 | Sargun | 7 less? |
| 04:27.24 | Sargun | er |
| 04:27.25 | Sargun | 5 less |
| 04:31.09 | nick125 | Sargun: http://216.184.20.87/temperature-sensor-controller-v1-r2.png < what do you think so far? |
| 04:32.02 | Sargun | Terrible. Destroy it |
| 04:32.07 | nick125 | lol |
| 04:32.20 | Sargun | What program did you use to create that |
| 04:32.24 | nick125 | kicad |
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| 04:32.26 | ibot | dances the fozzmoo with elg |
| 04:33.30 | nick125 | not bad for a first real schematic, eh? |
| 04:34.13 | Sargun | yeah |
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| 05:02.15 | rsimpkins | Finally got all the meeting stuff out. |
| 05:02.27 | rsimpkins | Hopefully it is soon enough for everyone to make plans to attend. |
| 05:02.37 | Sargun | Uh? |
| 05:02.37 | rsimpkins | I hope it is a topic people will be interested in. |
| 05:02.48 | rsimpkins | Sargun: http://www.plug.org |
| 05:02.52 | fozzmoo | Sargun: You're certainly invited. |
| 05:02.53 | Sargun | rsimpkins, You wanted to implement something in CSS and HTML? |
| 05:03.02 | rsimpkins | Sargun: I do? |
| 05:03.31 | Sargun | someone here did |
| 05:03.31 | fozzmoo | I want to come to PLUG. |
| 05:03.50 | fozzmoo | Just to say to Matt Asay, "Why should I care about Alfresco?!" |
| 05:03.59 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: Do it! :) |
| 05:04.02 | fozzmoo | I've been puzzled for months about it. |
| 05:04.10 | fozzmoo | it's so slow and counterproductive. I just don't understand all the hype. |
| 05:04.14 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: If he can't answer that, then he isn't very good is he? :) |
| 05:04.15 | Sargun | I just needs a flight. |
| 05:05.22 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I thought they were aiming at going after sharepoint. |
| 05:05.40 | fozzmoo | is Sharepoint fast and productive? |
| 05:05.47 | rsimpkins | I hate these new flash pop-over galleries. |
| 05:06.03 | fozzmoo | I've never used Sharepoint, honestly. I hear about it a little from my wife. |
| 05:06.22 | fozzmoo | Sounds like it has some advantages having native tie-ins with Windows Explorer. |
| 05:06.53 | fozzmoo | In fact, I've said a couple times if Alfresco had "plugins" to various file managers, it would make a lot more sense. |
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| 05:27.17 | findlay | ~plug fozzmoo in |
| 05:27.48 | findlay | ~literal cmd: plug (.?*) |
| 05:27.55 | findlay | ~literal cmd: plug (.*?) |
| 05:31.40 | findlay | ~findlay fozzmoo |
| 05:31.40 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps fozzmoo. |
| 05:31.55 | fozzmoo | ~abuse findlay |
| 05:31.56 | ibot | ACTION smacks findlay across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 05:32.46 | findlay | ~findlay Sargun |
| 05:32.47 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps Sargun with abandon |
| 05:32.51 | findlay | yay |
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| 05:35.13 | findlay | ~tene Sargun |
| 05:35.25 | findlay | -chat |
| 05:35.27 | brac | Ann IS a democracy. Or, a new world wide web thing in the SIP failover code "works" if you have jsmith presenting the same first three letters! |
| 05:35.31 | rsimpkins | Just to prove the point. Sugar is explosive. |
| 05:35.34 | rsimpkins | Mmkay? |
| 05:35.43 | findlay | well, duh |
| 05:35.49 | findlay | it's a carbohydrate :) |
| 05:35.51 | rsimpkins | Some people don't believe me. |
| 05:36.01 | findlay | flour is explosive |
| 05:36.07 | rsimpkins | When I tell them we used powdered sugar to make rocket engines. |
| 05:36.15 | findlay | pretty much all powdery carbohydrates can be explosive |
| 05:36.25 | findlay | high energy bonds there |
| 05:36.29 | findlay | on purpose |
| 05:37.10 | findlay | -chat sugar |
| 05:37.11 | brac | sugar was created by SportChick <n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net> at Thu Feb 23 16:27:56 2006 (658 days); it has a small apple and seven strange dwarfs and a discussion about sample rates going on every computer there except the obvious question? |
| 05:37.26 | findlay | heh |
| 05:38.02 | findlay | ~sargun sugar |
| 05:38.02 | ibot | see ~tene sugar |
| 05:39.00 | findlay | -chat flashing?! |
| 05:39.00 | brac | flashing?! went |
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| 05:54.24 | ibot | dances the fozzmoo with elg |
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| 06:00.46 | Lakshmi | hey |
| 06:03.39 | Sargun | hi |
| 06:05.33 | Lakshmi | hi Sargun |
| 06:05.37 | Lakshmi | ~hi sargun |
| 06:05.37 | ibot | Many greetings, sargun, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 06:05.46 | Lakshmi | ~thanks ibot |
| 06:05.46 | ibot | de nada, Lakshmi |
| 06:06.11 | Sargun | ~lakshmi Lakshmi |
| 06:06.12 | ibot | ACTION maxes out Lakshmi's nick with underscores_____ |
| 06:06.47 | Lakshmi | i like that answer its like :) |
| 06:06.55 | Lakshmi | ~sargun sargun |
| 06:06.56 | ibot | see ~tene sargun |
| 06:07.05 | Lakshmi | what does that mean? |
| 06:07.15 | Lakshmi | ~ nick125 nick125 |
| 06:07.15 | ibot | ACTION puts nick125 on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes nick125 use Gentoo on there. |
| 06:07.27 | Lakshmi | each person gets a new one? |
| 06:07.43 | nick125 | Lakshmi: You can define ~<blah> to be whatever |
| 06:08.27 | Lakshmi | nick125 how? |
| 06:08.55 | nick125 | I forget how, but it's like ibot: blah is blah blah blah |
| 06:14.33 | findlay | hello |
| 06:15.21 | findlay | ~literal cmd: confuse (.*?) |
| 06:15.22 | ibot | "cmd: confuse (.*?)" is "($1): <reply> (yes|no) (those|them|where|who|how) (are|is|was) (your|their|our|my) (pants|hamster|pineapple|gouda|gerbil|bacon) (today|tomorrow|yesterday) ?" |
| 06:15.46 | nick125 | ~confuse blah |
| 06:15.46 | ibot | no how are our bacon tomorrow ? |
| 06:15.48 | findlay | -chat ~confuse |
| 06:15.53 | brac | ~confuse is |
| 06:15.53 | ibot | yes those was their hamster today ? |
| 06:16.53 | findlay | ~literal cmd: bzfrag (.*?) |
| 06:16.54 | ibot | "cmd: bzfrag (.*?)" is "($1): <action> (fries $1 with a laser|destroys $1 with a guided missile|makes $1 feel the effects of a shockwave|blindsides $1 with an invisible bullet|skewers $1 with a super bullet|kills $1 with a shot from his BZTank|squishes $1 with a steamroller|tries to kill $1, but $1 finds the shield flag)" |
| 06:18.13 | Lakshmi | why wont ibot listen to me!! |
| 06:18.17 | Lakshmi | ~bad ibot |
| 06:18.18 | ibot | Bad ibot, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 06:18.23 | Lakshmi | ~listen |
| 06:18.28 | Lakshmi | listen to lakshmi |
| 06:19.17 | findlay | -chat listen |
| 06:19.18 | brac | listen did |
| 06:19.22 | findlay | -chat Lakshmi |
| 06:19.22 | brac | Lakshmi did |
| 06:19.39 | findlay | ~say -chat ~say -chat |
| 06:19.40 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat |
| 06:19.44 | brac | ~say -chat ~bzfrag |
| 06:19.45 | ibot | -chat ~bzfrag |
| 06:19.46 | brac | ~bzfrag is |
| 06:19.46 | ibot | ACTION makes is feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 06:20.03 | findlay | ~say -movietitle |
| 06:20.04 | ibot | -movietitle |
| 06:20.08 | brac | Title: DEADLY DISPERSION VI |
| 06:22.37 | findlay | ~nickometer Lakshmi |
| 06:22.50 | Lakshmi | haha yay!! |
| 06:23.00 | findlay | ~weather kpvu |
| 06:24.23 | findlay | ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 06:24.24 | ibot | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 06:24.26 | brac | ~onjoin findlay -chat about sexy pants in Da house! |
| 06:24.26 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 06:25.11 | findlay | ~onjoin findlay sinecure |
| 06:25.11 | ibot | ok, findlay |
| 06:32.16 | Sargun | oh |
| 06:32.18 | Sargun | nick125, ! |
| 06:32.32 | nick125 | Sargun: what? |
| 06:32.51 | Sargun | nick125, What are you working on |
| 06:33.17 | nick125 | Sargun: going to bed before I do anything else stupid :p |
| 06:33.28 | Sargun | nick125, Aw, why |
| 06:33.31 | Sargun | Go code |
| 06:33.31 | Sargun | a |
| 06:33.40 | Sargun | Backup system |
| 06:33.45 | Sargun | or a revision control system |
| 06:33.48 | nick125 | because I'm tired and I'm making poor judgement and mistakes :p |
| 06:33.51 | Sargun | like the one I wrote |
| 06:33.54 | Sargun | and give it to #python |
| 06:34.04 | nick125 | night Sargun |
| 06:34.06 | Sargun | tell them to check it out in their home directory. |
| 06:43.10 | Sargun | Anyone here read lolita? |
| 06:53.20 | Lakshmi | Sargun see see why my book idea would be good?! |
| 06:53.29 | Sargun | ? |
| 06:53.30 | Lakshmi | like if ibot was a book library |
| 06:53.47 | Lakshmi | i told you about my book idea today didnt i ? |
| 06:54.06 | Sargun | no |
| 06:54.08 | Sargun | :-P |
| 06:54.41 | Lakshmi | loser |
| 06:54.44 | Lakshmi | :P |
| 06:55.14 | Lakshmi | guess you werent cool enough then |
| 06:55.14 | Lakshmi | ~tease sargun |
| 06:55.14 | ibot | ACTION tickles sargun with a feather and makes sargun rotflmaopimp-ing |
| 07:05.13 | Lakshmi | hey sargun |
| 07:12.31 | rsimpkins | Does anyone here play vendetta? |
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| 13:20.51 | ibot | dances the fozzmoo with elg |
| 13:47.15 | elg | ~onjoin -elg |
| 13:47.15 | ibot | elg: ok |
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| 14:20.07 | ^Migs^ | http://bash.org/?839727 |
| 14:20.08 | brac | [QDB: Quote #839727] |
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| 15:07.00 | ^Migs^ | omg |
| 15:07.07 | ^Migs^ | my coworker (new guy) brought his kid to work and the kid WON'T shut up |
| 15:07.15 | ^Migs^ | "Dad! Hey Dad! Hey Dad! Look at all the games I have on here. Look at the games! Look at the games! LOOK AT THE GAMES! DAD! DAD! DAD! Look at the games..." |
| 15:08.18 | tensai | that's really interesting. why is my hotmail in japanese? |
| 15:08.41 | ^Migs^ | your name IS tensai |
| 15:08.45 | ^Migs^ | that's japanesey-looking |
| 15:09.03 | ^Migs^ | it's just profiling |
| 15:09.24 | tensai | but it's not hotmail.co.jp, it's just hotmail.com |
| 15:09.39 | tensai | I'm confused. I must have set it that way sometime. I haven't logged into it in ages. |
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| 15:34.05 | findlay | hello |
| 15:34.16 | dmdavis | hi |
| 15:36.50 | tensai | findlay: do you ride the short bus? |
| 15:46.04 | ^Migs^ | writers' strike is finally over |
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| 15:47.07 | ^Migs^ | greedy writers |
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| 16:11.51 | tensai | if there's one thing I really just couldn't care less about it's the writer's strike |
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| 16:12.16 | Tene | tensai: I'm not wearing pants yet. |
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| 16:12.38 | tensai | Tene: I'm not limited to just one thing though. that also qualifies. |
| 16:13.19 | Tene | Okay, now I'm wearing pants. |
| 16:13.26 | Tene | Off to work; later. |
| 16:13.42 | sontek | I work better without pants. |
| 16:14.21 | elg | -chat |
| 16:14.22 | brac | just insntall the add n edit cookie plugin. |
| 16:14.29 | elg | -chat i work |
| 16:14.30 | brac | i work 50/60 hours a day, and you'll know better than costly beer? |
| 16:14.57 | sontek | -chat herlo |
| 16:14.58 | brac | herlo was wondering.... |
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| 16:19.34 | elg | ~onjoin dataw0lf Applesauce > Oranges |
| 16:19.34 | ibot | elg: ok |
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| 16:28.30 | herlo | brac: what was I wondering? |
| 16:28.30 | brac | no clue |
| 16:28.37 | herlo | hehe |
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| 16:57.54 | findlay | tensai: I drive to school :/ |
| 16:57.56 | elg | ~grad dmdavis |
| 16:58.20 | elg | ~grad $dmdavis is <action>locks $dmdavis in a room until he accomplishes some "research" |
| 16:58.21 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 16:58.30 | findlay | haha |
| 17:11.15 | ^Migs^ | okay, why am I listening to Ashley Tisdale? |
| 17:11.34 | ^Migs^ | I bought my daughter a cheap little mp3 player for her 5th birthday and I started loading songs on it and listening to them to make sure they were okay, but then I Just left it running |
| 17:15.01 | elg | you're a little girl at heart |
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| 17:32.39 | ibot | dances the tango with fozzmoo |
| 17:32.50 | fozzmoo | WHeeeeee |
| 17:32.54 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: ping |
| 17:32.56 | fozzmoo | neybar: ping |
| 17:33.13 | neybar | pong |
| 17:33.22 | fozzmoo | Hey there neybar |
| 17:33.28 | neybar | howdy |
| 17:33.30 | fozzmoo | What's your favorite Perl module to send e-mail? |
| 17:33.48 | neybar | it depends on what I'm doing... really quick and dirty I use Mail::Sendmail |
| 17:33.54 | fozzmoo | I read an article a few months ago that really pointed out the best/worst modules to use. |
| 17:34.05 | neybar | if I want to do attachments then MIME::Lite |
| 17:34.07 | fozzmoo | I had been using MIME::Lite forever and this article poopooed it. |
| 17:34.17 | fozzmoo | I can't find it now. :( |
| 17:34.18 | neybar | oh? I'd missed that article.. lol |
| 17:34.45 | fozzmoo | It was like a best-practices thing. |
| 17:35.18 | fozzmoo | http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/06/10/email.html |
| 17:35.19 | brac | [perl.com: The Evolution of Perl Email Handling] |
| 17:35.58 | fozzmoo | I don't think that was it, but it looks interesting nonetheless. |
| 17:41.08 | dmdavis | ~grad dmdavis |
| 17:41.09 | ibot | ACTION locks dmdavis in a room until he accomplishes some "research" |
| 17:41.13 | dmdavis | :) |
| 17:45.13 | Jayce^ | ~pong fozzmoo |
| 17:45.14 | ibot | fozzmoo: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:45.48 | fozzmoo | I don't remember, but I'm thinking maybe this article recommending Mail::Sender or something like that. |
| 17:46.49 | fozzmoo | I'll keep looking, but for this particular project, I'll just use MIME::Lite. |
| 17:47.03 | fozzmoo | Cuz it's great taste with fewer calories. |
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| 18:09.34 | fozzmoo | jsmith-away: Ping. Come back! |
| 18:13.00 | Tene | Silly diabetics and their 'lite' products. |
| 18:19.35 | fozzmoo | Tene: Did that guy ever get back with you or was it all a dead end? |
| 18:20.06 | Tene | still nothing |
| 18:20.13 | Tene | I tried calling agian yesterday, but no answer. |
| 18:20.17 | fozzmoo | Weird. |
| 18:20.26 | fozzmoo | OKay. Well, I'll let you know if I ever hear anything. |
| 18:20.52 | dmdavis | what do you recommend for a file system that both Linux and Windows can read/write? I've been using Fat32, but the lack of owners/permissions is aggravating. any alternatives? |
| 18:21.32 | bonez44 | can linux both read and write to ext3 yet? |
| 18:21.43 | dmdavis | :) yeah, I think so |
| 18:22.06 | dmdavis | if you mean windows, then I don't know |
| 18:22.49 | Tene | dmdavis: linux support for ntfs is great these days, but I'm not sure how ownership and permissions and such are handled. |
| 18:23.30 | dmdavis | Tene: Oh, is it pretty reliable now? |
| 18:23.37 | Tene | dmdavis: so I hear. |
| 18:24.24 | tensai | Jayce^: communist |
| 18:24.27 | fozzmoo | I have used various ext3 drivers for Windows. |
| 18:24.34 | fozzmoo | Kinda hit and miss. |
| 18:24.46 | fozzmoo | I think the ntfs route is pretty safe these days. |
| 18:24.51 | Jayce^ | tensai, yeah, just wait until you drive down here..... |
| 18:25.01 | dmdavis | OK, thanks |
| 18:27.39 | Sargun | NTFS has permissions? |
| 18:27.52 | Sargun | I thought that supposed to be a new features in WinFS? |
| 18:28.43 | herlo | Sargun: always has |
| 18:28.56 | fozzmoo | Wasn't WinFS going to be a database filesystem? |
| 18:29.15 | fozzmoo | Then it got pushed back 3 centuries. |
| 18:29.59 | Tene | herlo: but are they used by the linux driver? |
| 18:30.05 | herlo | Tene: good question |
| 18:30.55 | fozzmoo | look at the "Mount options for ntfs" in the mount(8) manpage |
| 18:31.32 | fozzmoo | It tells you... nothing. :) |
| 18:32.14 | Tene | Which is probably the answer. :) |
| 18:32.18 | fozzmoo | My experience, however, is that ntfs support in Linux behaves like fat32 support |
| 18:33.01 | fozzmoo | That is, if you've got a USB drive formatted NTFS and you want a non-priviledged user to be able to write to it, you mount it with the -o uid=500,gid=500 type of options. |
| 18:33.20 | fozzmoo | I have no idea how files created that way look under Windows when you look at a file's properties. |
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| 19:03.06 | fozzmoo | So, I have a question about IRC proxies and bouncers. |
| 19:03.18 | fozzmoo | Who uses them? Why? What's good? Etc. |
| 19:03.49 | fozzmoo | For example, could I set up a proxy to keep me logged into #utah and then just connect to it using pidgin as I'm actually online? |
| 19:04.00 | fozzmoo | And would I be able to scroll back? |
| 19:05.19 | fozzmoo | Does anyone do anything like that? Or does everyone use a text-mode IRC client? |
| 19:13.24 | nick125 | fozzmoo: everyone uses a console based IRC client. |
| 19:15.17 | Sargun | nick125, they do? |
| 19:15.22 | dataw0lf | fozzmoo: Yes, you can do that with IRC proxies. |
| 19:15.27 | Sargun | use a bouncer |
| 19:15.36 | Sargun | with Xchat |
| 19:21.19 | Tene | fozzmoo: you can set up irssi to keep you connected, and then connect to irssi-proxy with pidgin |
| 19:21.37 | Tene | set you away when you disconnect and unaway when you connect. |
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| 19:26.41 | Lakshmi | hey guys |
| 19:45.58 | RyanE | groovy. Never played with irssi-proxy. I may have to do that now. |
| 19:46.43 | herlo | course, I never have played with irssi-proxy |
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| 19:52.27 | fozzmoo | Thanks for all your input. |
| 19:53.24 | fozzmoo | Sargun: I only use pidgin because it lets me consolidate all my messaging In one application. otherwise, I would use a text mode client. I used to use Epic+Light in screen. |
| 19:54.25 | moriancumer | centericq and finch do the same thing |
| 19:54.39 | goozbach | fozzmoo: use bitlbee |
| 19:55.04 | fozzmoo | moriancumer: I've used both of those and find them to be... how shall I put it.. |
| 19:55.06 | goozbach | I use irssi runing under screen |
| 19:55.09 | fozzmoo | Royal pains in the ass. |
| 19:55.22 | maquis | ~language fozzmoo |
| 19:55.23 | ibot | ACTION grabs fozzmoo by the ear and washes fozzmoo's mouth out with soap |
| 19:55.24 | sontek | I use irssi under screen, but I use pidgin for all my messengers |
| 19:55.30 | goozbach | and have a bitlbee running on my server |
| 19:55.32 | fozzmoo | maquis: Sorry. |
| 19:55.47 | goozbach | I do my messaging from irssi, |
| 19:55.47 | maquis | fozzmoo: np... just a reminder :) |
| 19:56.07 | RyanE | goozbach: I do as well, but I find I leave IMs sitting for hours because I don't notice them... |
| 19:56.15 | moriancumer | fozzmoo: to each his own |
| 19:56.30 | goozbach | RyanE: that's fine, I have an auto-away script on my bitlbee page |
| 19:56.34 | fozzmoo | goozbach: How well does bitlebee show you who's online and their status? |
| 19:56.36 | moriancumer | goozbach: How do you do messaging in irssi? |
| 19:56.44 | goozbach | moriancumer: bitlbee |
| 19:57.23 | goozbach | http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html |
| 19:57.40 | goozbach | fozzmoo: all your contacts are joined to a special channel &bitlbee |
| 19:58.06 | goozbach | and they have voices if they are "present" and no voice if they are "away" |
| 19:58.12 | moriancumer | I'll check it out. I would love to consolidate |
| 19:58.28 | goozbach | I hate log processing. |
| 19:59.02 | goozbach | I found a single crashing bug on my import script which failed 1.9million lines into a 3million line log file. |
| 20:00.59 | maquis | heh |
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| 21:02.22 | *** topic/#utah is Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | Expand your vocabulary: Hillary is not evil, she is disingenuous. |
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| 21:20.22 | Sargun | JoshH, sealand? |
| 21:24.51 | Sargun | wow, there were a lotta crumbs in my keyboard |
| 21:28.43 | atoponce | where are the %pre and %post scripts in an rpm? are they files that are part of the package or do they exist in some meta data of the package? |
| 21:33.04 | goozbach | atoponce: meta diata |
| 21:33.07 | goozbach | meta data |
| 21:33.15 | goozbach | use mc to see them without installing them |
| 21:33.42 | Tene | or rpm -qp --scripts foo.rpm |
| 21:33.45 | atoponce | i used 'rpm -qp --scripts ' |
| 21:33.49 | Tene | ^5 |
| 21:34.07 | atoponce | so, the question is thus: how do i add a line to an exsting %post section? |
| 21:36.01 | goozbach | rebuild the package |
| 21:36.44 | goozbach | install the src.rpm and you'll find everything in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/ |
| 21:36.59 | goozbach | check out the GuruLabs rpm guide for details |
| 21:37.48 | atoponce | ok. that's what i thought |
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| 21:40.18 | goozbach | atoponce: shouldn't you have known that already :) |
| 21:40.53 | Lakshmi | hey ya'll |
| 21:41.02 | goozbach | watch this? |
| 21:41.25 | atoponce | goozbach: maybe... |
| 21:42.10 | atoponce | depends on if sjansen is teaching me, or herlo. if sjansen, yes. if herlo, definitely not. :) |
| 21:43.14 | sjansen | Lakshmi: hay |
| 21:43.30 | Lakshmi | sjansen sup? |
| 21:49.32 | goozbach | sjansen: you could always say "the cost of gas, since 1999" |
| 21:49.49 | Lakshmi | sjansen so respond with what you are doing atm? |
| 21:49.53 | sjansen | ~dict sup |
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| 21:50.34 | sjansen | Uhm? Okay... I deserved that. |
| 21:51.13 | Lakshmi | huh? |
| 21:51.22 | findlay | heh |
| 21:51.36 | atoponce | hah |
| 21:52.00 | findlay | sjansen: start singing |
| 21:52.05 | findlay | 'we got trouble' |
| 21:53.26 | findlay | 'geeks in support of HB whatever-it-is storm the state capitol singing and dancing in time to the Music Man' |
| 21:53.31 | sjansen | o/~ Not too put too fine a point on it, say I'm the only bee in your bonnet, build a little bird house in your sould ~/o |
| 21:53.54 | findlay | that would be a cool superpower to have |
| 21:54.20 | findlay | whenever you get into trouble you can just start singing and dancing and everyone will join in |
| 21:54.44 | sjansen | Lakshmi: To answer your question. Trying to figure out how to use a many_to_many relationship to filter the results of a DBIx::Class query. |
| 21:55.35 | findlay | don't tell us of queries, it's Friday! Time to enjoy something, like Voltaire or John Donne |
| 21:56.42 | sjansen | Nah, Machiavelli. |
| 21:57.12 | findlay | Pangloss enseignait la métaphysico-théologo-cosmolo-nigologie. Il prouvait admirablement qu’il n’y a point d’effet sans cause, et que, dans ce meilleur des mondes possibles, le château de monseigneur le baron était le plus beau des châteaux et madame la meilleure des baronnes possibles. |
| 21:59.38 | findlay | Though Truth and Falsehood be\Near twins, yet Truth a little elder is. |
| 22:00.36 | findlay | Love built on beauty, soon as beauty, dies. |
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| 22:01.54 | Keighvin | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 22:01.54 | ibot | keeps mailing Jayce^ free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 22:02.16 | Keighvin | ~lart neybar too |
| 22:02.16 | ibot | beats the living hamstercrap out of neybar too |
| 22:02.51 | Keighvin | ~whalebomb redbeard2 |
| 22:02.52 | ibot | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at redbeard2 and hides. |
| 22:02.54 | Keighvin | OK, I'm done. |
| 22:02.56 | findlay | One short sleep past, we wake eternally,/And death shall be no more, Death, thou shalt die. |
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| 22:04.58 | goozbach | ~whalesmite Keighvin |
| 22:05.03 | sjansen | Lakshmi: If you were a guru, I'd guess you were doing the netfilter lecture right now. |
| 22:05.22 | Lakshmi | sjansen no im not a guru, but im learning html :) |
| 22:05.23 | RyanE | singing and dancing in time to the Music Man is a superpower? Woo! |
| 22:05.38 | RyanE | I guess I should scroll down to the bottom before I respond. duh. :) |
| 22:05.41 | findlay | RyanE: yeah, but can you get everybody else to do it too? |
| 22:05.51 | RyanE | findlay: valid point. |
| 22:06.00 | findlay | I think the inspiration for that was The Mask |
| 22:06.20 | findlay | well, not 'think', 'was' |
| 22:07.01 | Sargun | s/think/was/ |
| 22:07.10 | Sargun | I was the inspiration that was the mask |
| 22:07.22 | Keighvin | Wow, barely beat me to the punch. |
| 22:08.20 | Sargun | hehe |
| 22:09.35 | Sargun | pandora > Last.fm |
| 22:10.23 | findlay | how will last.fm feel about your redirecting pandora into it? |
| 22:13.39 | Sargun | hehe |
| 22:13.59 | Sargun | Hopefully it'll get some of pandora's awesomeness? |
| 22:16.32 | goozbach | twitter down again? |
| 22:18.19 | Sargun | :-[ |
| 22:22.16 | dataw0lf | http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2008/02/08/w3c_s_excessive_dtd_traffic |
| 22:22.17 | brac | [W3C Systeam's blog - W3C's Excessive DTD Traffic] |
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| 22:56.36 | elg | ~twit sjansen |
| 23:00.58 | tensai | Jayce^: I won't be attending :( |
| 23:01.23 | tensai | sjansen: brilliant responses on the sllug list |
| 23:01.56 | elg | tensai: what did you expect? He spent enough time around me he ought to be brilliant |
| 23:03.46 | tensai | in case your ghost script needs to be resurrected |
| 23:04.42 | tensai | uh oh. looks like that old copy of ghostscript was the only thing keeping elg on the net. |
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| 23:05.06 | vontrapp | ~hug vimdiff |
| 23:05.06 | ibot | ACTION hugs vimdiff |
| 23:05.08 | vontrapp | -hug vimdiff |
| 23:05.16 | vontrapp | ~shoot brac |
| 23:05.17 | ibot | ACTION shoots brac in the foot with a phase pistol! |
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| 23:43.50 | vontrapp | it's too quiet |
| 23:44.05 | dmdavis | shh |
| 23:46.57 | goozbach | hey look it's Raph! |
| 23:47.17 | goozbach | -- "yeah a little *TOO* Raph..." |
| 23:58.32 | vontrapp | oh no! neybar's head asploded! |
| 23:59.21 | RyanE | clear |
