| 00:00.11 | vontrapp | hey, no more talking about politics until i get home, kk? |
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| 00:00.44 | wigamuffin | So... what do you talk about here when you don't talk politics? |
| 00:00.55 | Wegg | helping me fix my mail server. |
| 00:00.55 | sjansen | burn herlo! burn him! he's a witch! |
| 00:00.57 | Wegg | :-) |
| 00:01.01 | dataw0lf | Linux, software engineering, etc |
| 00:01.07 | Wegg | Can't get the SMTP stuff to re-direct. :-( |
| 00:01.20 | wigamuffin | I use linux/gnome, yet I don't know much about it. XD |
| 00:01.48 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> current topic is: Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | herlo is a witch. burn him! |
| 00:02.10 | dataw0lf | ~burn herlo |
| 00:02.11 | ibot | ACTION pours gasoline all over herlo, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 00:02.17 | wigamuffin | ... I don't burn witches. I've got a few Wiccan friends. |
| 00:02.25 | wigamuffin | Their nice. |
| 00:02.32 | sjansen | What about their nice? |
| 00:02.38 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 00:02.43 | sjansen | Where can I get a nice? |
| 00:02.58 | wigamuffin | XD If you look, you'll find it. |
| 00:03.05 | dataw0lf | ~nice sjansen |
| 00:03.05 | ibot | ACTION lowers sjansen's priority |
| 00:03.21 | sjansen | u |
| 00:03.23 | sjansen | uh |
| 00:03.26 | sjansen | uhm |
| 00:03.59 | sjansen | uhm. |
| 00:03.59 | sjansen | uhm.. |
| 00:03.59 | sjansen | uhm... |
| 00:03.59 | wigamuffin | uhm.... |
| 00:03.59 | dataw0lf | ~kill sjansen |
| 00:04.00 | ibot | ACTION shoots a excited anti-electron gun at sjansen |
| 00:04.00 | wigamuffin | XD |
| 00:04.00 | wigamuffin | XD |
| 00:04.00 | *** topic/#utah by herlo -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | sjansen's latest project is called SUCK! |
| 00:06.40 | wigamuffin | Not much else going on then... |
| 00:06.57 | Wegg | One of my fish died. |
| 00:07.14 | Wegg | I was so sad I started a blog at lunch. |
| 00:07.14 | wigamuffin | 0.o What kind of fish? |
| 00:07.19 | Wegg | www.eggington.net/~blog/ |
| 00:07.23 | Wegg | Just a little orange one. |
| 00:07.32 | Wegg | don't know much about em to know any more than that. |
| 00:07.33 | Wegg | LOL |
| 00:07.37 | wigamuffin | I like fish...and sea monkeys. |
| 00:08.06 | wigamuffin | I'm sorry for your loss of a floaty happy swim creature. |
| 00:08.25 | Wegg | thanks man |
| 00:08.38 | wigamuffin | Sure. |
| 00:08.44 | Wegg | His little friend thats all alone in the tank is what makes me the most sad. |
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| 00:10.29 | dataw0lf | speaking of, I'm about to bring a rescued ferret into my house temporarily |
| 00:10.38 | wigamuffin | Cool! I love ferrets. |
| 00:11.11 | wigamuffin | And fish and all sorts of fur covered and scale shielded buggers. |
| 00:11.24 | Wegg | I animated a ferret for months. |
| 00:11.28 | Wegg | www.andysairplanes.com |
| 00:11.46 | Wegg | I'd go to the pet store and film them to get their little moves down. |
| 00:11.54 | Wegg | was fun. |
| 00:11.58 | Wegg | They are cool little animals. |
| 00:12.05 | Wegg | Wish they didn't smell quite so bad. |
| 00:12.34 | wigamuffin | I had the same problem with sugar gliders. |
| 00:12.46 | wigamuffin | XD The ferrets move in such a funny way. |
| 00:13.02 | wigamuffin | My friend's tried to steal my phone because it liked the shine. |
| 00:13.04 | dataw0lf | my two ferrets don't smell at all |
| 00:13.07 | dataw0lf | just gotta keep em clean |
| 00:13.22 | Wegg | buy an Andy DVD datawolf. |
| 00:13.24 | wigamuffin | Makes me want to get one if you're having success. |
| 00:13.29 | Wegg | Lots of ferret love in that thing. |
| 00:13.41 | wigamuffin | XD |
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| 00:13.52 | vontrapp | i'm back! |
| 00:14.11 | wigamuffin | Ello! |
| 00:14.12 | dataw0lf | Wegg: I video my own ferret shenanighans (albeit with my laptop cam) : www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLWVS2kuonk |
| 00:14.55 | wigamuffin | XD What's it's name? |
| 00:15.09 | Wegg | awww cute |
| 00:15.14 | Wegg | 5 stars. |
| 00:15.16 | wigamuffin | He's just flopping around. |
| 00:15.16 | Wegg | :-) |
| 00:15.21 | wigamuffin | ^^ |
| 00:15.46 | dataw0lf | wigamuffin: Aldus Manutius the Great. We also have Guido van Rossum. |
| 00:15.49 | vontrapp | great, firefox won't stay running |
| 00:16.10 | dataw0lf | (named after the man who invented the semicolon, and the creator of the Python programming language, respectively) |
| 00:16.44 | wigamuffin | Cool! |
| 00:16.53 | Wegg | pretty sure colons have been around since adam. |
| 00:16.54 | wigamuffin | I like long titles for animals. |
| 00:17.02 | Wegg | ;-) |
| 00:18.04 | wigamuffin | We named the racoon cubs that come up on our deck. |
| 00:18.10 | vontrapp | i don't know if i consider the semicolon a good invention |
| 00:18.36 | wigamuffin | I use it all the time when I'm writing, must be my style or somthing. |
| 00:18.39 | dataw0lf | my girlfriend apparently loves them |
| 00:18.46 | vontrapp | what the hell! stupid firefox! |
| 00:19.03 | dataw0lf | you aren't running the v3 beta, are you? |
| 00:19.19 | vontrapp | no |
| 00:19.32 | wigamuffin | Have you tried using Ice Weasel...I know it's just another version of Firefox but I find it superior. |
| 00:19.37 | vontrapp | there was apparently some ghost process stopping it from keeping a window open |
| 00:19.43 | vontrapp | killall firefox-bin fixed it |
| 00:20.16 | dataw0lf | ah |
| 00:20.16 | wigamuffin | Oh good. |
| 00:31.32 | levi | Man, I get neck-deep in work for a while, and I miss a politics discussion. |
| 00:31.40 | levi | I'm so disappointed. |
| 00:32.00 | Wegg | we could start it again if you want. |
| 00:32.14 | Wegg | I could do another Ron Paul rant. . . |
| 00:32.22 | Wegg | Everyone could tell me I sound like a nut. |
| 00:32.27 | Wegg | We could compare candindates. |
| 00:32.40 | Wegg | Talk about the ethics of voting for the lesser of two evils. |
| 00:32.57 | vontrapp | we could start a "levi for legislature" campaign |
| 00:33.20 | Wegg | Ooo there ya go. |
| 00:33.48 | vontrapp | i want to donate to paul today so bad |
| 00:33.53 | vontrapp | but i have to talk my wife into it |
| 00:34.06 | vontrapp | she's thoroughly convinced we can't afford it |
| 00:34.11 | vontrapp | "we can't afford not to" i say |
| 00:34.14 | vontrapp | but oh well |
| 00:34.22 | Wegg | Donate $5 and do without lunch tomorrow |
| 00:34.44 | Wegg | Just so you can tell your kids you donated. |
| 00:34.47 | vontrapp | my lunch is worth about $1.50 |
| 00:34.59 | Wegg | donate $1.50 then. |
| 00:35.02 | Wegg | it all counts |
| 00:35.07 | Wegg | Widow's mite and all that. |
| 00:35.20 | vontrapp | yeah, she doesn't get home till about 9:00, so we'll see |
| 00:35.32 | vontrapp | whatever amount it is, i can't just go donate it right now behind her back |
| 00:36.36 | vontrapp | anyone else see that story about the 11 yo kid that got kidnapped by a swat team? |
| 00:37.04 | vontrapp | that's a good political discussion right there |
| 00:37.43 | Wegg | url? |
| 00:37.57 | levi | Ron Paul isn't exactly behind on campaign funding, is he? |
| 00:38.04 | vontrapp | http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59566 |
| 00:38.05 | brac | [WorldNetDaily: SWAT officers invade home, |
| 00:38.05 | brac | take 11-year-old at gunpoint] |
| 00:38.19 | levi | Whatever happened to the standoff at Eagle Mountain? |
| 00:38.22 | vontrapp | i've heard questioned the reliability of wnd, but other sources have the story as well |
| 00:38.46 | vontrapp | levi: he's not, because we are donating :) |
| 00:39.05 | vontrapp | everyone else is |
| 00:39.21 | vontrapp | romney has paid almost 90% of his campaign out of his own pocket |
| 00:39.40 | vontrapp | if he wasn't the rich ! he is, he wouldn't have a chance |
| 00:39.55 | Wegg | levi, Mitt has stopped advertising and McCain is out of money. If Ron can get a lot of ads on the telly then he can really make an impact. Win a few states. |
| 00:40.28 | levi | I only ever see ads for Clinton and Obama. Not that I've watched a lot of TV lately. |
| 00:40.38 | dataw0lf | I've seen Ron Paul commercials |
| 00:40.51 | levi | Mostly I see Ron Paul signs in yards. |
| 00:40.52 | Wegg | I'd love to see one. |
| 00:40.52 | vontrapp | my mythtv skips commercials, that has it's ups and downs... :/ |
| 00:40.53 | dataw0lf | actually quite a few |
| 00:41.05 | dataw0lf | and the radio here plays his ads non-stop. |
| 00:41.17 | Wegg | Yea my Tivo makes commercials go away. |
| 00:41.27 | dataw0lf | Admittedly, I haven't watched much TV and radio since the caucuses |
| 00:41.33 | dataw0lf | listened to radio* |
| 00:41.46 | dataw0lf | but weeks before the caucus Paul was running a lot of ads |
| 00:41.48 | Wegg | SWAT teams should go invate all homes randomly. |
| 00:42.01 | Wegg | keep us on our toes. |
| 00:42.04 | vontrapp | i find it laughable in a very sad way how ron paul gets shut down time after time in the debates |
| 00:42.14 | vontrapp | but he sure has learned to make his few minutes of speaking time count! |
| 00:42.18 | Wegg | oh that infuriates me. |
| 00:42.30 | Wegg | Its like. . .CNN and FOX are picking the winners for us. |
| 00:43.07 | Wegg | No other candidate has a bajillion (actual figures may vary) yard signs all over the country. |
| 00:43.29 | dataw0lf | pfft, my whole street is covered in Obama signs |
| 00:43.54 | levi | Wegg: You live in Utah, don't you? |
| 00:43.56 | vontrapp | bajillion by definition is a vague generalization of "a lot" |
| 00:44.00 | dataw0lf | and you want to talk about small money fundraising, Obama is kicking butt too. |
| 00:44.14 | Wegg | I am in Utah Levi |
| 00:44.23 | Wegg | Orem |
| 00:44.25 | vontrapp | i saw a hillary sign saftey-pinned to a backpack on the bus today |
| 00:45.06 | levi | I think Ron Paul has a disproportionate amount of yard signs in Utah compared to the rest of the nation. |
| 00:45.21 | levi | There certainly aren't going to be a lot of Democrat yard signs in Orem. |
| 00:49.48 | Wegg | The ones who vote for Mitt "because he is Mormon" drive me nuts. |
| 00:50.28 | levi | That is pretty silly, but not particularly more silly than many of the other reasons people use to decide who to vote for. |
| 00:54.58 | Wegg | I think most "republicans" are thinking in terms or retribution and their right to push democracy into other people by the barrel of a gun. And most Dems are there to make the Government stronger to bail them out when they screw up. I like Option 3. :-) |
| 01:00.20 | vontrapp | anyway... |
| 01:01.37 | Wegg | Oh I'll be ready with my 2nd amendment rights. |
| 01:01.38 | Wegg | Oh wait |
| 01:01.42 | Wegg | I don't own a gun. |
| 01:01.43 | Wegg | damn |
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| 01:04.13 | sargun-palm | heya |
| 01:05.58 | levi | vontrapp: He did send the email he talked about to PLUG. It was the: Political and "Off-Topic" Discussions on PLUG Mailing List |
| 01:06.54 | vontrapp | levi: i was talking about chad's email, not ryans |
| 01:07.00 | levi | Oh. |
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| 02:49.42 | tripzero | can anyone give me a cell phone recommendation? I want something simple until I can get a nice google+dell (android) smart phone? |
| 02:50.01 | tripzero | I also want it to be unlocked so I can later chose the carrier without the dumb contracts |
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| 03:30.15 | Wegg | Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. - John Quincy Adams |
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| 05:01.44 | tristanbob__ | what do you use to record screencasts? I just tried Istanbul and it works ok until you try to view the saved session, it is very bad video and sound |
| 05:05.26 | tripzero | xvidcap |
| 05:05.51 | tripzero | but it doesn't do sound |
| 05:14.13 | tensai | get a paper and pencil and make one of those flip books |
| 05:28.15 | findlay | boring |
| 05:28.19 | findlay | you guys are boring |
| 05:28.27 | tensai | ~dance |
| 05:28.28 | ibot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 05:28.38 | tensai | ~disco |
| 05:28.38 | ibot | burn, baby, burn |
| 05:30.09 | tripzero | ~op me? |
| 05:30.09 | ibot | ACTION Mode change "+o tripzero" on channel #utah by ibot |
| 05:30.43 | findlay | heh |
| 05:30.50 | tripzero | it was worth a try eh? |
| 05:30.52 | tripzero | :D |
| 05:31.00 | findlay | haven't seen one that clever in a long time |
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| 05:31.22 | findlay | ~literal cmd: op (.*?) |
| 05:31.43 | findlay | ~literal cmd: op (.?*) |
| 05:31.46 | findlay | whatever |
| 05:33.30 | findlay | ~rot0987654321 whatever |
| 05:33.30 | ibot | nyrkvmvi |
| 05:33.40 | findlay | nyrkvmvi |
| 05:33.58 | tensai | ~literal op me |
| 05:33.59 | ibot | "op me" is "<action> Mode change "+o $nick" on channel $channel by $ident" |
| 05:37.58 | tensai | ~op $findlay is <action> Mode change "+o $findlay" on channel $channel by $ident |
| 05:37.59 | ibot | tensai: okay |
| 05:42.39 | tripzero | why is huckabee still running? |
| 05:45.20 | Wegg | cause . . . he thinks he can win? |
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| 05:47.49 | Wegg | At least Ron Paul offers an alternative to whats already there. |
| 05:48.08 | Wegg | Huckabee is just. . . more of the same. |
| 05:48.10 | tripzero | true |
| 05:49.18 | Wegg | They are all more of the same. |
| 05:50.54 | tripzero | it's all in the details my friend |
| 05:52.40 | Wegg | Ron is the only one who would actually change anything. The rest would just tweak the knobs slightly. |
| 05:56.33 | tripzero | I wonder what the world would be like if Ron Paul was president during wwII |
| 05:56.45 | tripzero | interesting to think about IMO |
| 05:57.44 | tripzero | I doubt we would have declared war on Germany. prolly just japan since they attacked us |
| 05:59.16 | tripzero | but hey, the EU really didn't need us to help them win back their countries did they |
| 05:59.59 | tripzero | it was those entangling alliances that got us to war with germany |
| 06:04.17 | Wegg | I think the whole of the US was more like Ron Paul back then. It took japan attacking us directly before we got involved. |
| 06:05.05 | Wegg | 9/11 happens and we go attack. . . Iraq. |
| 06:05.15 | Wegg | makes complete sense. |
| 06:05.16 | Wegg | Not |
| 06:05.36 | tripzero | good point |
| 06:08.29 | levi | So, unlimited lookahead in a parser sounds nice, but it actually makes producing useful error messages difficult. |
| 06:09.51 | levi | Well, it's a more interesting comment than blather about politics. ;) |
| 06:10.05 | tripzero | I'm working on a dock application |
| 06:10.21 | tripzero | dock/panel |
| 06:10.23 | levi | I am, obviously, writing a parser as part of a compiler. |
| 06:10.33 | tripzero | ooo, what compiler? |
| 06:10.47 | levi | In Haskell. With monadic parser combinators. |
| 06:10.53 | levi | I almost understand what I'm doing. ;) |
| 06:11.22 | levi | It's for a class, a made-up object-oriented language with a simple Java-like syntax. |
| 06:11.52 | tripzero | who made up the language? |
| 06:12.05 | levi | The straightforward implementation of monadic parser combinators results in unlimited lookahead. |
| 06:12.10 | levi | The professor did. |
| 06:13.03 | tripzero | so this is for school? |
| 06:13.06 | levi | Parsec, a pretty nice monadic parser combinator library, uses a nifty method to limit lookahead to a single token. |
| 06:13.09 | levi | Yes. |
| 06:13.14 | tripzero | ahh |
| 06:13.18 | tripzero | the 'U'? |
| 06:13.21 | levi | I am taking classes in the evenings to finish my degree. |
| 06:13.41 | levi | (started a long, long time ago.) |
| 06:13.47 | levi | No, at UVSC. |
| 06:13.56 | tripzero | ahh, ok cool |
| 06:14.22 | tripzero | what course? CS? |
| 06:14.46 | levi | Unfortunately, this particular grammar is LL(2), so I will have to devise some kind of trick to get more lookahead. |
| 06:15.13 | levi | Yeah, it's a compilers course. I think CS departments are the only ones that teach compilers. :) |
| 06:15.38 | tripzero | just wondering because I didn't think uvsc had a CS program |
| 06:16.13 | levi | Yeah, it's had one for a long time, and it's actually decent, all things considered. |
| 06:16.26 | tripzero | hmmm... |
| 06:16.48 | levi | Where do you work? |
| 06:16.51 | tripzero | uvsc is much closer |
| 06:16.53 | tripzero | draper |
| 06:17.15 | levi | Ahh, I used to work in Bluffdale, which is why I picked UVSC. |
| 06:18.04 | tripzero | nice |
| 06:20.00 | tripzero | I live up in Clearfield atm |
| 06:20.12 | tripzero | and going to weber st |
| 06:20.33 | levi | I lived in Sandy then. Not too long ago, I moved to Lehi and shortly thereafter took a job in Sandy. :/ |
| 06:20.43 | tripzero | lol |
| 06:20.56 | levi | Oh well, at least I have a house now. |
| 06:21.04 | tripzero | yeah, that's a bonus |
| 06:21.54 | levi | Well, I'd better get back to my monads. Gotta get this accepting valid programs and filling a symbol table by Monday. |
| 06:22.16 | tripzero | me too, got to test out my dock... |
| 06:30.38 | levi | What kind of dock? |
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| 17:03.09 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | question... I restored a mysql database from a full dump, and I am getting weird errors for the user and permissions. Should I just drop the 'mysql' database, and re-create permissions manually? |
| 17:25.12 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | nevermind. :) I found this command: mysql_fix_privilege_tables |
| 17:25.22 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | seems to have worked. |
| 17:25.47 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I am probably on a slightly different version because of my gentoo->arch switch. |
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| 17:49.58 | tripzero | levi: it's a dock for an embedded carpc OS |
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| 18:12.08 | elg | -chat |
| 18:12.09 | brac | you'll have plenty of online information. |
| 18:26.09 | nick125 | PRoGRaMMeRQ: That leads me to the question of: why would you switch from Gentoo to Arch? |
| 18:27.18 | tripzero | probably so he won't have to compile KDE as much |
| 18:28.19 | nick125 | Then use binpkgs :-) |
| 18:29.02 | tripzero | that's cheating in gentoo :p |
| 18:29.27 | nick125 | Although, seriously. When I used Arch (on several occasions), it was horrible. |
| 18:29.56 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I got sick of the upkeep in gentoo. I sent out a mail to the PLUG list when I decided to switch. |
| 18:30.08 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | so far I am very happy with arch linux. |
| 18:30.26 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | why was it horrible to you? |
| 18:30.27 | tripzero | personally, I've never tried either. I'm debian/ubuntu since almost the beginning |
| 18:30.39 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I have a debian box |
| 18:30.54 | nick125 | I found the init system to be utterly horrible, the package manager was okay, but it didn't do what I needed (for example, allowing me to downgrade a single package without removing an entire repository) |
| 18:30.55 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I was going to go to either arch, debian, or gobolinux. |
| 18:31.27 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I'm still learning the package management. The init system was designed to be very lightweight. |
| 18:31.52 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I wasn't considering gobo linux too seriously, but I wouldn't mind playing with it. |
| 18:32.22 | nick125 | My gentoo system boots up about as fast (if not faster) than Arch, and it has good wireless support, init dependancies, parallel booting, and much more fun stuff. |
| 18:33.11 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | yeah, all that wasn't as important to me in (re)choosing my distro. |
| 18:33.41 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I still love gentoo, but I just was tired of the maintenance on it... breaking things when upgrading libs, having to run revdep-rebuild. |
| 18:33.42 | nick125 | Why did you have to "rechoose" a distro? |
| 18:33.52 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I didn't "have" to. |
| 18:33.55 | tripzero | seems like many distros are going with ubuntu's upstart init system |
| 18:34.02 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I was just ready to move away from gentoo |
| 18:34.13 | nick125 | Especially if you didn't have any problems with Gentoo (I'm supposing you didn't have any) |
| 18:34.19 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I did. |
| 18:34.22 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | a few |
| 18:34.26 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | nothing I couldn't fix |
| 18:34.40 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I was just ready to be done fixing problems. |
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| 18:35.32 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I figure boot speed doesn't matter to me. The init system for arch is supposed to be very lightweight, so I choose the order in which things start up. |
| 18:36.03 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | so the way my arch system is now, it is booting up faster than gentoo did, but I never put any effort into optimizing my boot time for gentoo. |
| 18:36.16 | nick125 | I've personally spent more time fixing Arch on the machines that I ran it on than I ever spent on fixing Gentoo on the same box. |
| 18:36.37 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | You've never had to run revdep-rebuild? |
| 18:36.53 | nick125 | I've had to run it dozens of times |
| 18:37.03 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | almost every program I use breaks if I upgrade directfb |
| 18:37.09 | nick125 | Still less than what I had to do to get xorg working in Arch. |
| 18:37.10 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | my system is getting old |
| 18:37.19 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | xorg worked like a charm for me. |
| 18:37.28 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I just copied my existing config |
| 18:37.55 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I've put very little time and effort into getting my system running with arch, compared to getting it running with gentoo. |
| 18:38.03 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | Don't get me wrong, I still love gentoo. |
| 18:38.23 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I am just tired of compiling everything on my athlon xp 2100+ |
| 18:38.50 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | esp when I can't run firefox/thunderbird/vlc/anything else I use until I recompile them. |
| 18:38.52 | nick125 | PRoGRaMMeRQ: Do you have multiple boxes at your place? if so, why not do distcc? |
| 18:39.19 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I have set up distcc, but that broke after I upgraded something, and being a busy student, I don't have time to fix so many things. |
| 18:39.38 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I was just ready to be done fixing things. |
| 18:39.52 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I still have gentoo on my vps |
| 18:40.08 | nick125 | I guess to everyone their own choices. |
| 18:40.19 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | yup |
| 18:40.23 | tripzero | so say we all |
| 18:40.34 | vontrapp | so say we all |
| 18:40.51 | vontrapp | flash blocking recommendations? |
| 18:40.57 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I also think that gentoo isn't the same as it was when I first switched to it five years ago. |
| 18:41.10 | vontrapp | particularly, one that doesn't block permanently and is easy to unblock blocked ones |
| 18:41.21 | nick125 | vontrapp: adblock? There's another flash blocker, I think it's like flashblock or something. |
| 18:41.54 | vontrapp | adblock wants me to do all this configuration when i try to block something |
| 18:42.19 | vontrapp | and i don't know if it will be easy to get it back, i probably have to search through all those lists of blocked things to get it back |
| 18:43.00 | vontrapp | flashblock looks good |
| 18:43.27 | nick125 | vontrapp: The nice thing about adblock is that you can do wildcards, not sure about flashblock |
| 18:43.36 | vontrapp | ideally, i'd like all flash to not load, but have a button "flash thingy here" and i can click on it to load it when i want it |
| 18:44.07 | vontrapp | uhuh, flashblock does just that, goody! |
| 18:45.38 | vontrapp | it's when you get those pages that have 5 different youtube videos on them, brings my processor to it's knees! |
| 18:46.15 | nick125 | ouch |
| 18:50.18 | vontrapp | dang, flashblock doesn't make it easy to reblock it :( |
| 18:50.24 | tripzero | quad core ftw... oh wait |
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| 19:07.04 | vontrapp | yeah, that sucks, i want to unblock the video with a click, then after i watch it, block it again with another simple click |
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| 19:15.31 | findlay | vontrapp: so write yor own plugin |
| 19:15.49 | dataw0lf | grrrr. I think the blu-ray drive on my laptop is on the fritz. I knew it would happen |
| 19:16.08 | findlay | call it fritzy |
| 19:16.46 | dataw0lf | I'll call it "broken" and get a new one |
| 19:19.39 | dataw0lf | or maybe not |
| 19:20.04 | elg | -chat |
| 19:20.06 | brac | Prolly not, is not an irssi user, so if the channel |
| 19:20.18 | findlay | -chat poliics |
| 19:20.19 | brac | poliics went |
| 19:20.21 | findlay | -chat politics |
| 19:20.22 | brac | politics is fun... my take-home final's in bio... |
| 19:20.30 | dataw0lf | -chat Ron Paul |
| 19:20.30 | brac | Ron Paul back then. |
| 19:20.43 | findlay | -chat sjansen 4 prez |
| 19:20.43 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 19:20.49 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 19:22.34 | jsmith | ~chat about silly findlay |
| 19:22.41 | jsmith | -chat about silly findlay |
| 19:22.41 | brac | silly findlay |
| 19:22.42 | dataw0lf | http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Feb/01/br/br7590342618.html sweet |
| 19:22.45 | brac | [Costco looking at selling own line of beer - The Honolulu Advertiser - Hawaii's Newspaper] |
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| 20:38.12 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | opinions about distro for servers? I use rhel at work, and I like it. I hear debian is good for servers. Is centos5 as good as rhel5? I don't see why it wouldn't be. |
| 20:42.11 | jsmith | RedHeron: CentOS is almost identical to RHEL5, except for the trademarked items (graphics, etc.) and the licensing |
| 20:42.21 | jsmith | Gah... stupid tab completion |
| 20:42.27 | jsmith | PRoGRaMMeRQ: That was meant for you, not RedHeron |
| 20:42.42 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | :) |
| 20:43.07 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | yeah, I figured that it was basically the same-- I hadn't heard anything negative about centos |
| 20:43.17 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | so I figured it was basically the same thing. |
| 20:43.22 | tripzero | debian ftw |
| 20:46.18 | jsmith | PRoGRaMMeRQ: Debian is good too, but if you're used to RHEL, then CentOS will feel very natural |
| 20:52.38 | tripzero | anyone know a good online tax service? |
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| 21:07.44 | Supaplex | what could I use to assist reverse engineering a datafile format? Sure, there's hexdump, but maybe someone's better at inventing this wheel so far :) |
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| 22:49.23 | tristanbob__ | Valentine's Day gift idea: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BC&topnav=&prodid=11271045&ec=BC-EC877-CatHome&pos=9&lang=en-US# |
| 22:49.58 | tristanbob__ | Pink ASUS Eee PC w/ 4 GB FTW! |
| 22:57.48 | findlay | Supaplex: well I think it helps to know something about the file format |
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| 22:58.31 | findlay | so try `file $file` and maybe `gunzip $file`? |
| 23:00.39 | Supaplex | it's a zoner barcode studio document |
| 23:01.48 | Supaplex | I'd manage them with xml, but it crashes wine |
| 23:04.06 | findlay | zpl? |
| 23:04.44 | Supaplex | huh? |
| 23:05.34 | findlay | is it gzipped zpl or something? |
| 23:06.09 | Supaplex | supaplex@li:~/docs/zoner$ file -sk uuids.zbl |
| 23:06.10 | Supaplex | uuids.zbl: data |
| 23:07.24 | findlay | well, zpl is a barcode vector printer language based on pcl which is based on postscript |
| 23:08.06 | findlay | there is likely a compressed payload inside if not the whole file |
| 23:08.39 | findlay | you could try a simple loop ripping off bytes off the front of the file until it recognizes it as a zip archive |
| 23:08.52 | Supaplex | http://li.daxal.com/~supaplex/zoner/ |
| 23:08.53 | findlay | I'm sure you could come up with something like that more sophisticated |
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