| 00:01.23 | dataw0lf | to be honest I skipped right through the sex scene so I could upgrade my assault rifle ammo and get back to business |
| 00:01.24 | levi | dataw0lf: I'm not sure what it says about you when you think Noam Chomsky is just as sexy as a non-graphic human/alien lesbian love scene. |
| 00:02.14 | Jayce^ | considering dataw0lf ... it's probably fitting :/ |
| 00:02.22 | dataw0lf | ho ho ho |
| 00:02.24 | dataw0lf | someone's got jokes |
| 00:02.41 | Jayce^ | just for you man... |
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| 00:14.15 | beandog | http://www.google.com/search?q=find+chuck+norris&btnI=I |
| 00:16.33 | Jayce^ | man, wonder when google will block *that* :) |
| 00:32.34 | nick125 | hahha |
| 00:33.34 | nick125 | All that's doing is going to the "I'm Feeling Lucky" page for that search term, but still funny |
| 00:46.03 | nick125 | Ah, this is neat. I never knew you could watch youtube on the Treos. |
| 00:48.53 | nick125 | And that's without extra software too. |
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| 01:01.55 | elg | is there a unix command that will help me upcase the first letter of a word? |
| 01:03.41 | vontrapp | maybe you can coax tr to do it |
| 01:15.47 | elg | echo `echo ${HI:0:1} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`${HI:1} |
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| 01:41.40 | Supaplex | wellduh > php? |
| 01:51.00 | nick125 | Python CGI > PHP |
| 01:51.08 | nick125 | and that's saying a lot. |
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| 02:08.53 | emcnabb | ok, baby is in bed. time to get some stuff done |
| 02:09.38 | elg | ~lart emcnabb |
| 02:09.38 | ibot | calls emcnabb on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 02:09.41 | elg | ~distract emcnabb |
| 02:09.42 | ibot | ACTION shaves her head and saunters past emcnabb with a cold beer in her hand. "Hello, sailor! Wanna go for a ride?" |
| 02:09.50 | RedHeron | Well... baby asleep=time to work. |
| 02:10.22 | emcnabb | ~uberlart elg |
| 02:17.21 | Supaplex | ~bore #utah |
| 02:17.22 | ibot | "#utah, here we are in the sausage factory; the sausages rest on the smoking racks before being cured..." |
| 02:22.57 | Supaplex | ~entertain RedHeron |
| 02:22.58 | ibot | ACTION shows RedHeron a magic trick while break diving |
| 02:23.23 | RedHeron | Now *that* would be entertaining! |
| 02:23.44 | RedHeron | But just barely. |
| 02:23.53 | Supaplex | just enough to revive you. |
| 02:24.22 | Supaplex | ~entertain macnewbold |
| 02:24.25 | ibot | ACTION shows macnewbold family photos while sky diving on black and white movie reels |
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| 03:01.33 | Lakshmi | hey |
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| 03:03.35 | ibot | refrains from ogling fozzmoo because he's married. |
| 03:07.19 | Supaplex | hi Lakshmi :) |
| 03:07.30 | Lakshmi | hi Supaplex |
| 03:07.41 | nick125 | Anyone here have a slingbox and use it with a Treo? |
| 03:07.49 | nick125 | I'm wondering if it's worth it or not. |
| 03:07.52 | Lakshmi | i dont |
| 03:07.57 | Lakshmi | hey fozzmoo |
| 03:08.43 | Supaplex | nick125: I'm fresh out of those |
| 03:09.07 | fozzmoo | Wow. Lakshmi. |
| 03:09.15 | fozzmoo | I'm surprised you're still allowed in #utah |
| 03:09.26 | Lakshmi | hehe fozzmoo |
| 03:09.31 | Lakshmi | thanks |
| 03:45.05 | dataw0lf | man the bjj wears you out |
| 03:45.21 | herlo | bjj? |
| 03:45.40 | herlo | dataw0lf: didn't see you come in |
| 03:45.48 | dataw0lf | brazilian jiu jitsu |
| 03:45.55 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 03:45.56 | herlo | dataw0lf: aah |
| 03:46.52 | dataw0lf | yea, I'm taking a training regime that combines bjj and muay thai boxing |
| 03:47.05 | Supaplex | herlo: well, a shell script on toilet paper > php, isn't it? ;) |
| 03:47.29 | Supaplex | I'm totally jk btw :D |
| 03:47.35 | herlo | Supaplex: most of the time, yes |
| 03:47.53 | herlo | but there are a few who can actually write valuable php, very few, but still |
| 03:48.01 | herlo | like 4 |
| 03:48.07 | dataw0lf | still inhibited by PHP, though |
| 03:48.35 | dataw0lf | with that onjoin, though, I'm more making a statement about how it's more applicable to compare Django and PHP, rather than Python and PHP. |
| 03:49.00 | herlo | hmm, that might be true |
| 03:51.23 | dataw0lf | jQuery + Django though? Man, it's like web development heaven. |
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| 05:40.12 | findlay | dataw0lf: jQuery? |
| 05:40.29 | findlay | besides I thought you were a pylons guy |
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| 05:49.35 | levi | Man, the PLUG thread gets weirder and weirder. |
| 05:49.58 | levi | The South will rise again! :P |
| 05:52.55 | herlo | oh boy |
| 05:54.36 | findlay | hehe |
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| 09:25.56 | Lakshmi | hi |
| 10:03.43 | Supaplex | gewdnightz |
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| 17:56.58 | vontrapp | how do you search available packages with rpm? |
| 17:59.41 | mrpull-_ | vontrapp: rpm doesn't really have that... what distro are you using? yum or up2date or apt4rpm may be what you are looking for |
| 18:04.09 | herlo | vontrapp: use yum list available |
| 18:04.53 | herlo | mrpull-_: that'd be a great feature to add to rpm though, to query a local repo |
| 18:05.53 | mrpull- | yum can query a local repo |
| 18:06.41 | mrpull- | i suspect the one function per tool purists would say that belongs in yum rather than in rpm |
| 18:06.53 | vontrapp | no yum |
| 18:06.55 | vontrapp | :( |
| 18:07.34 | redbeard2 | do any of you know what cairo is? |
| 18:07.50 | vontrapp | i don't know how anybody uses anything but apt |
| 18:07.56 | vontrapp | well, emerge is ok, too |
| 18:08.00 | vontrapp | if you have hours |
| 18:08.12 | mrpull- | vontrap... what rpm distro are you using that you need to search for a package? |
| 18:08.30 | vontrapp | i don't know what distro it is |
| 18:08.33 | herlo | mrpull-: I know, and I can see your point. My theory is that it would be nice |
| 18:08.34 | vontrapp | it's a remote server |
| 18:08.45 | herlo | vontrapp: cat /etc/*release |
| 18:08.57 | vontrapp | RHEL |
| 18:08.58 | mrpull- | cairo could be a couple things... i seem to remember a display rendering tool called cairo |
| 18:09.17 | herlo | vontrapp: version? |
| 18:09.18 | mrpull- | and cairo was the code name for an old windows release... maybe windows 2000 |
| 18:09.25 | vontrapp | release 4 |
| 18:09.36 | vontrapp | with nahant update 6 |
| 18:09.39 | mrpull- | RHEL can use RHN or up2date to search for a package |
| 18:09.40 | herlo | vontrapp: up2date, or install yum from the centos site |
| 18:09.43 | vontrapp | what does red hat do for updates? |
| 18:09.53 | herlo | uses rhn.redhat.com |
| 18:10.02 | herlo | which you can sign up for free for 30 days |
| 18:10.06 | herlo | and get those updates |
| 18:10.40 | vontrapp | i'm going to basically be maintaining this server in the near future |
| 18:10.47 | vontrapp | i need a crash course in red hat |
| 18:11.10 | redbeard2 | mrpull-: i'm looking at the graphics library |
| 18:11.36 | herlo | vontrapp: do you know any versoins of linux? other than rpm, yum and up2date, you should be good |
| 18:11.57 | vontrapp | i know debian inside out |
| 18:12.05 | herlo | oh, and system-config-* :) |
| 18:12.18 | herlo | which would be similar to dpkg --reconfigure |
| 18:12.31 | vontrapp | ok |
| 18:12.49 | mrpull- | after looking at the cairo wikipedia page, i didn't realize that it was already used all over the place |
| 18:12.57 | mrpull- | errr... that doesn't make sense... |
| 18:13.06 | mrpull- | i was surprised to see it is already used in several places |
| 18:14.23 | redbeard2 | mrpull-: i'm actually trying to pull up a graphviz document... but when i installed graphviz, it didn't give me any guis... so i installed graphviz-cairo, since i'd heard that cairo was some sort of graphics thing... but it doesn't look like cairo has a gui either |
| 18:15.25 | mrpull- | yeah, i think cairo is more of a library... like GDI or quartz |
| 18:16.20 | redbeard2 | mrpull-: phooey. i need some way to look at this file. it opens in something called dotty, but none of the text is there |
| 18:29.09 | mrpull- | redbeard2: i don't know anything about graphvis, but after poking around a bit, I think dotty is the program i'd attempt to use too |
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| 18:30.53 | mrpull- | or the command line tool dot and export to a .pdf or .png or whatever |
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| 19:13.32 | elg | redbeard2: if you have a graphviz file, |
| 19:14.05 | elg | use the program dot to make a png or pdf or ps or svg or ... |
| 19:15.25 | elg | i've never seen dotty, but it looks like a really sad excuse for a graphical interface to dot files |
| 19:16.22 | elg | or, you may have neato instead of dot |
| 19:16.59 | redbeard2 | elg: i have neato and something called lefty. both seem worse than dotty. |
| 19:17.22 | elg | i'm trying to recall the history, but dot and neato are both commandline progs that do basically the same thing, I think |
| 19:17.37 | elg | i think graphviz proper was once not so open as it is, or something |
| 19:17.55 | vontrapp | oh my gosh! there's still actually websites out there that feel they need to resize your browser!! |
| 19:18.09 | elg | so one, but I don't remember which, was the less-libre one and the other was the reimplementation by libre nuts |
| 19:19.15 | elg | ok, there's a description of what's what at http://www.graphviz.org/ |
| 19:19.38 | elg | dot makes hierarchical drawings of graphs and neato makes spring model drawings |
| 19:23.30 | elg | quickstart: dot -Tps -o foo.ps foo.dot |
| 19:23.55 | elg | or, s/dot/neato |
| 19:27.48 | nick125 | Anyone else here have a Treo 700p or 755p? |
| 19:28.54 | redbeard2 | nick125: i have a treo 775p |
| 19:29.31 | nick125 | redbeard2: Do you listen to streaming music or video on it? I'm having an issue on my 700p (I heard it happens on the 755p as well) where after a while, the screen will randomly dim |
| 19:30.06 | herlo | nick125: what software do you use to listen? |
| 19:30.37 | nick125 | herlo: pocket tunes and the embedded kinoma player (pt for music, the embedded kinoma player for streaming video) |
| 19:30.58 | herlo | nick125: I'll have to try kinoma, have used pt before |
| 19:31.56 | nick125 | The newer Treos have a version embedded for video. It's nice to be able to watch youtube on your phone when you are bored. |
| 19:32.57 | herlo | nick125: I have a 755p |
| 19:33.28 | nick125 | herlo: Basically, any palm treo since the 700p and above. |
| 19:33.53 | herlo | ahh, youtube via the blazer browser? |
| 19:34.26 | nick125 | herlo: When you go to http://m.youtube.com and try to watch a video, it opens up in the embedded kinoma player. |
| 19:34.35 | nick125 | Then when the video is done, it goes back to blazer |
| 19:35.29 | herlo | nice |
| 19:35.54 | nick125 | I'm thinking of trying to exchange my device for another one, because of the screen dimming issue, but in the past, I've had problems getting my Treo exchanged. Verizon just looks at me like I'm stupid and tells me it must be the auto-turn off feature. |
| 19:36.52 | herlo | yeah, sprint is about the same |
| 19:36.56 | nick125 | Of course, it didn't act up when in store. |
| 19:37.32 | nick125 | What I'm thinking of doing is watching a bunch of videos before going ot the store, and hopefully it'll start acting up. |
| 19:37.38 | herlo | right, that's the same with cars and things |
| 19:43.15 | nick125 | I'm debating on if I should try to exchange it for a refurb or if I should just live with it..any suggestions, guys? |
| 19:45.33 | herlo | ~I'd say that you should try to see what you can get on ebay or something and get an unlocked centro |
| 19:47.23 | nick125 | Verizon won't activate a Centro. |
| 19:48.00 | herlo | switch |
| 19:48.21 | nick125 | Not to mention, I absolutely hate the look of the centro |
| 19:48.32 | nick125 | And Verizon is the only carrier with EvDO here. |
| 19:49.51 | herlo | nick125: you don't have Sprint there? |
| 19:50.12 | nick125 | Sprint is 1x only here. |
| 19:50.25 | herlo | EVDO originated at SPRINT |
| 19:50.33 | herlo | really? that sucks |
| 19:50.50 | nick125 | And it doesn't look like they are planning on getting EvDO here until late '08. |
| 19:52.00 | herlo | NM right? |
| 19:52.16 | nick125 | yup |
| 19:53.12 | nick125 | Not to mention I'm in contract with Verizon until november of 2009. |
| 19:53.38 | herlo | haha, yeah, I know that pain |
| 19:54.22 | nick125 | I'm wondering if it's worth it to try to get them to exchange my 700p for a 755p |
| 19:54.46 | nick125 | The only problem is that it seems the same issue occurs on the 755p as well |
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| 21:37.41 | ibot | ACTION , while sick, attempts to make it to the porcelain god and pukes all over harleypig |
| 21:37.48 | harleypig | nutz |
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