| 00:16.14 | elg | I didn't realize morse code was a sort of huffman encoding (or close) |
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| 00:35.40 | mrpull-_ | can you do a apachectl -k graceful to load a new SSL cert? |
| 00:37.34 | Shadowwire | exit |
| 00:45.46 | Sargun | mrpull-_, My bets are not, tell us what happens/. |
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| 01:34.41 | Sargun_screen | Heya |
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| 02:43.49 | ibot | refrains from ogling fozzmoo because he's married. |
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| 02:50.57 | Supaplex | wth? |
| 02:51.08 | Supaplex | ibot: onjoin #utah Tene *yawn* |
| 02:51.08 | ibot | ok, Supaplex |
| 02:51.17 | Tene | My legs hurt. Way too much walking today. |
| 02:51.23 | fozzmoo | in NYC? |
| 02:51.32 | Tene | Yeah. |
| 02:51.33 | Supaplex | no segway? |
| 02:52.08 | Tene | What's in LA? |
| 02:52.14 | fozzmoo | Dizzyland. |
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| 03:11.10 | Supaplex | oh look, a Lakshmi :) |
| 03:14.50 | Sargun | o RLY? |
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| 03:49.33 | Sargun | Supaplex, what's up? |
| 03:51.39 | Supaplex | I think I'm crossing a new taxbracket this year. (two jobs'll do that) |
| 03:52.50 | Supaplex | makes up for 0 jobs for the last few months :) |
| 03:53.57 | Supaplex | Jayce^: y0 |
| 03:58.39 | levi | findlay: I downloaded a couple of John Cage recordings from emusic back when I was a member. |
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| 04:29.58 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. Yes. Back when eMusic was cool. |
| 04:30.36 | Tene | fozzmoo: Man, NYC is a big city. |
| 04:31.08 | fozzmoo | Tene: I remember walking from midtown to the WTC one Sunday when I was there. My legs were like spaghetti. |
| 04:31.27 | fozzmoo | After that, I just took the subway. :) |
| 04:31.44 | Tene | I was walking all over trying to find a kinkos to get exams printed at. |
| 04:31.49 | Tene | And then looking for a place to eat. |
| 04:32.34 | fozzmoo | Your hotel doesn't have a printer/copier? |
| 04:32.43 | fozzmoo | Where are you in NYC? |
| 04:33.12 | Tene | ... I hadn't thought of that option. |
| 04:33.36 | Tene | 340 Pearl street. right next to pier 17. |
| 04:33.45 | fozzmoo | Oh wow. You're down in the financial district, eh? |
| 04:33.50 | Tene | yeah |
| 04:33.55 | fozzmoo | Cool. |
| 04:34.05 | fozzmoo | Have you taken a ride on the Staten Island Ferry yet? |
| 04:34.22 | levi | I got lost trying to drive home from the Bronx one night while I was visiting a friend there. |
| 04:34.40 | fozzmoo | levi: Did you get "lost in Yonkers?" :) |
| 04:34.40 | Tene | Nope. My sister was originally planning on doing that with me tonight, but she bailed, and I had a kinkos to hunt. |
| 04:35.03 | levi | fozzmoo: I have no idea where I was lost, except that it was in NYC somewhere. :) |
| 04:35.38 | fozzmoo | Tene: I took this picture from the ferry: http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/events/2000-MacWorld-NY/SouthSkyline.jpg |
| 04:35.54 | fozzmoo | Of course, I didn't realize at the time the significance that picture would have a year later. |
| 04:36.35 | Tene | I took this picture a few nights ago: http://pleasedieinafire.net/~tene/picture.jpg |
| 04:36.55 | fozzmoo | Yeeesh. What kind of camera do you have? |
| 04:37.16 | fozzmoo | That your sister? |
| 04:37.46 | Tene | yep |
| 04:37.54 | fozzmoo | I love the scenery. :) |
| 04:38.01 | Tene | random chinese camera from woot |
| 04:40.36 | fozzmoo | megapixelage |
| 04:46.11 | findlay | levi: and? |
| 04:46.42 | levi | findlay: They were interesting. |
| 04:46.50 | levi | Not something I'd listen to a lot. |
| 04:46.59 | findlay | heh |
| 04:55.35 | levi | Heh. |
| 04:55.51 | levi | It's a disaster zone. |
| 05:30.08 | levi | findlay: I could let you listen to the mp3s if you want. |
| 05:30.30 | levi | findlay: It's not completely unlistenable, just odd. |
| 05:35.10 | levi | findlay: I've got 'Works for Prepared Piano Disc 1 and 2' and 'John Cage and Meredith Monk - Piano and Voices' |
| 05:36.11 | levi | Piano and Voices doesn't even use a prepared piano. :) |
| 05:45.07 | levi | Listening it in the presence of others might make them question your sanity, though. |
| 05:45.26 | Sargun | heya all |
| 05:49.51 | levi | findlay: Hmm, I guess there is some prepared piano in here, too. |
| 05:50.03 | levi | It's an interesting variety of sounds, anyway. |
| 06:23.57 | levi | Meredith Monk is only slightly less weird than John Cage. |
| 06:24.12 | Sargun | uh |
| 06:27.15 | Lakshmi | sargun, look at your PM. or yeah.. |
| 06:27.19 | Lakshmi | ppl are looking for you |
| 06:28.14 | Sargun | ok |
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| 06:31.06 | Lakshmi | hi |
| 06:31.08 | Lakshmi | ibot |
| 06:31.16 | Lakshmi | your the only one that talks to me |
| 06:31.55 | Supaplex | ha |
| 06:32.36 | Supaplex | I guess 3h 21m ago doesn't count huh? |
| 06:32.54 | Sargun | haha |
| 06:33.05 | Lakshmi | Supaplex not really |
| 06:33.16 | Lakshmi | Sargun stop laughing? |
| 06:33.22 | Sargun | why? |
| 06:33.31 | Lakshmi | cause |
| 06:33.39 | Supaplex | why cause? |
| 06:33.54 | herlo | what about Nick Cage levi? |
| 06:36.38 | levi | herlo: John Cage, not Nick Cave |
| 06:37.19 | herlo | levi: Nicholas Cage, the actor, he's pretty weird |
| 06:37.28 | levi | Oh, that one. |
| 06:37.37 | Sargun | Yeah |
| 06:37.42 | herlo | hehe |
| 06:37.43 | levi | I was talking about music people, not actors. |
| 06:37.49 | herlo | levi: so |
| 06:38.03 | herlo | I just figured they might be related or something |
| 06:38.29 | levi | I doubt it, but I suppose it's possible they're distantly related. |
| 06:39.41 | levi | Nick Cage is the son of August Coppola (brother of Francis Ford Coppola) and Joy Vogelsang. Cage isn't even his original last name. |
| 06:41.30 | levi | And he got the name 'Cage' from a comic book. |
| 06:41.59 | herlo | interesting, off to bed now that I can sleep |
| 06:52.34 | Supaplex | apt-get install pillow |
| 07:38.09 | RedHeron | sudo apt-get update sleep |
| 07:39.11 | Supaplex | my dream lastnight was vivid and violent. |
| 07:39.46 | RedHeron | I hate those sometimes. |
| 07:39.56 | Supaplex | I was fighting with someone, and they stuck a few needles right into my arm, and I'm thinking ... uh, isn't this suppose to hurt? ermmm ok. then I start beating him up. |
| 07:40.48 | Supaplex | s/start/resumed/ |
| 07:42.49 | Supaplex | anyway, I think I'll pop a melatonin, and hit le hay |
| 07:55.05 | Lakshmi | oh hey it didnt break! |
| 08:00.30 | Sargun | oh |
| 08:00.31 | Sargun | neat |
| 08:01.13 | levi | About 160 of them. |
| 08:01.17 | levi | Mostly of my kids. :) |
| 08:04.41 | Sargun | Neato |
| 08:12.29 | Sargun | ? |
| 08:12.32 | Sargun | Picture? |
| 08:12.42 | Sargun | levi, Your kids are <8? |
| 08:12.48 | Sargun | or 8-12 |
| 08:12.49 | Sargun | or 12+? |
| 08:13.09 | Sargun | Hopefully in the first two slots |
| 08:13.09 | levi | I took a whole series of pictures, and she had a different expression in each one. |
| 08:13.15 | Sargun | oh, neat. |
| 08:13.16 | levi | Yes, she's almost 2. |
| 08:14.15 | levi | And my baby boy was born towards the end of November, so he's just a couple of months old. |
| 08:18.08 | Sargun | Oh |
| 08:18.09 | Sargun | Neat. |
| 08:18.23 | Sargun | So like a 1.3 year age gap? |
| 08:28.50 | levi | Something like that. |
| 08:36.14 | levi | Heh, Mister Ed graces us with his political wisdom... |
| 09:04.25 | Sargun | Is 4783 prime |
| 10:01.53 | Lakshmi | hey people |
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| 10:09.21 | ibot | tries out findlays' all new Synaptics Scratch and Sniff pad |
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| 13:32.04 | atoponce | ~onjoin -Lakshmi |
| 13:32.07 | ibot | ok, atoponce |
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| 15:04.28 | Tene | http://lwn.net/Articles/254559/ -- 2.6.24 kernel released |
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| 15:05.28 | Sargun_screen | Tene: Yeah, it came out last night. |
| 15:05.40 | Sargun_screen | Its supposed to have a few neat features |
| 15:05.48 | findlay | what dd it do when it came out? |
| 15:05.56 | findlay | did it eat any dinosaurs? |
| 15:06.12 | findlay | did it take out godzilla? |
| 15:06.59 | Tene | file-based capabilities. |
| 15:07.05 | Tene | really cool |
| 15:07.18 | findlay | ooh, special powers |
| 15:07.44 | findlay | for fighting file-based aliens with |
| 15:12.06 | Sargun_screen | findlay: Socket based ones too! |
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| 15:15.31 | Sargun_screen | I'm sleep :-( |
| 15:15.35 | Sargun_screen | sleepy. |
| 15:17.47 | findlay | ~sleep |
| 15:17.48 | ibot | rumour has it, sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 15:18.05 | jsmith | Sargun_screen: A doughnut is as good as 30 minutes of sleep |
| 15:18.54 | Sargun_screen | ORLY? |
| 15:19.10 | Sargun_screen | So, I got 4.5 hours of sleep |
| 15:19.12 | Sargun_screen | I need like 6 |
| 15:19.19 | Sargun_screen | So, I need three donuts |
| 15:19.27 | findlay | no |
| 15:19.27 | Sargun_screen | jsmith: Are the cream filled ones worth more? |
| 15:19.31 | Sargun_screen | or Jelly filled? |
| 15:19.35 | Sargun_screen | or the plain ones? |
| 15:19.35 | findlay | you need 2.5 |
| 15:20.11 | findlay | ~convert 2.5 doughnuts to sleep |
| 15:20.16 | Sargun_screen | hehe |
| 15:20.28 | Sargun_screen | you should insert that to ibot |
| 15:20.47 | Sargun_screen | I think all the people in my LUG have -LOST- their minds |
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| 16:22.15 | mrpull | delta is goofy. |
| 16:22.37 | mrpull | it was cheaper to skip a flight and book a one way than to modify my original plan |
| 16:22.59 | mrpull | why should it cost more to rebook a flight than to just book a new one? |
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| 16:23.28 | jsmith | mrpull: You're trying to apply logic where logic doesn't apply |
| 16:24.38 | goozbach | rookie flyer |
| 16:24.44 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:25.11 | goozbach | 8 months ago I wouldn't have batted an eye for a $500 ticket to SLC |
| 16:25.17 | Sargun | hey goozbach |
| 16:25.22 | jsmith | goozbach: Yeah, I'll be he's not even a frequent flier |
| 16:25.23 | goozbach | now I have to pay for two, it's dificult |
| 16:25.29 | Sargun | hehe |
| 16:25.31 | goozbach | Sargun: zup? |
| 16:25.35 | Sargun | Not much you? |
| 16:25.42 | mrpull | still a rookie.... but done 150K miles in the last 18 months |
| 16:25.51 | goozbach | not a rookie, then |
| 16:26.05 | dataw0lf | dang dude, Amazon has changed my shipping date on this book thrice. And I ordered it with two day shipping. |
| 16:27.08 | Sargun | goozbach, Which is? |
| 16:27.09 | goozbach | mrpull: how big of a modification? just a couple hours, or an entire day or more? |
| 16:27.17 | mrpull | 14 hours |
| 16:27.21 | levi | Where's maquis?! You should tell her how awful her company is. ;) |
| 16:27.25 | mrpull | morning instead of evening |
| 16:27.27 | Sargun | hahah |
| 16:27.30 | goozbach | Jumper: griffin's story |
| 16:27.34 | Sargun | I like amazon, even if they screw up a lot |
| 16:27.45 | goozbach | ahh, leaving earlier, instead of later. |
| 16:27.47 | Sargun | Alotta the time they get the crap for their merchants |
| 16:28.02 | mrpull | actually later |
| 16:28.07 | mrpull | next morning |
| 16:28.09 | goozbach | ahh |
| 16:28.21 | mrpull | the 300 saved on hotel still pays for new ticket |
| 16:28.41 | goozbach | how much was it going to be? |
| 16:29.01 | mrpull | 280 |
| 16:29.12 | Sargun | What's a good terminal that support UTF-8? |
| 16:29.24 | mrpull | extra night at home is a good thing |
| 16:30.07 | dmdavis | Sargun: I use uxterm |
| 16:30.20 | Sargun | dmdavis, ah |
| 16:30.50 | mrpull | do I still get the miles for the flight I'll skip? |
| 16:31.00 | Sargun | Is that even in portage? |
| 16:31.18 | Sargun | dmdavis, or is it in an overlay? |
| 16:32.44 | dmdavis | Sargun: I didn't use an overlay. don't remember exactly, but I'd guess it came from emerging xterm with the unicode use flag |
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| 16:33.30 | sjansen | http://www.qdh.org.uk/wordpress/?p=201 |
| 16:33.57 | Sargun | I just took the ocean out of this map :-X |
| 16:34.11 | Sargun | How do I put the magic back into the potion? |
| 16:35.16 | goozbach | FYI I'm liking this exaile thing. |
| 16:35.49 | goozbach | hear that synic? |
| 16:36.40 | thaddeusq | mrpull: you only get miles for flights where your butt is in a seat on the plane. |
| 16:37.07 | thaddeusq | so if you are hanging onto the landing gear, no miles. |
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| 16:39.13 | mrpull | silly |
| 16:39.18 | thaddeusq | ~welcome neybar |
| 16:39.19 | ibot | Welcome to the party, neybar! |
| 16:40.24 | sjansen | Which is why the gold medallion in the aisle seat with the bose headphones is never going to get up, so you might as well stop politely holding it. He's protecting his miles, he's never going to move. |
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| 16:44.06 | synic | goozbach: sweet :) |
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| 16:53.19 | elg | ~lart someone |
| 16:53.19 | ibot | teaches someone the basics, including how to RTM |
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| 17:01.36 | elg | a horse is a horse of course of course |
| 17:01.46 | sontek | best movie, ever. |
| 17:02.14 | sontek | SPADOINKLE |
| 17:05.50 | Lakshmi | atarack went idle at 2:18:39 AM. |
| 17:05.50 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:00 AM): you know how much it hurts that you wont see me tmrw |
| 17:05.50 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:08 AM): i want you to see me for a long time |
| 17:05.50 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:13 AM): doa 3-5 then |
| 17:05.51 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:21 AM): i wanna see you for a long period of time |
| 17:05.53 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:29 AM): stop being so rude :-( |
| 17:05.55 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:24:06 AM): i cant listen to this anymore |
| 17:05.57 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:24:11 AM): fucking shoot me |
| 17:05.59 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:24:27 AM): i need a box |
| 17:06.01 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:13 AM): see |
| 17:06.03 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:14 AM): i askd |
| 17:06.05 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:18 AM): when you were gunna be nice |
| 17:06.07 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:23 AM): would u do random nice things for me |
| 17:06.09 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:31 AM): like randomly ask me to spend more time with you etc |
| 17:06.13 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:36 AM): and you said OK |
| 17:06.15 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:46 AM): so you say one things and then do another? |
| 17:06.17 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:49 AM): how does that work |
| 17:06.19 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:19 AM): like you dont even have a good reason as to why you dont wanna spend the time with me |
| 17:06.22 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:25 AM): its cause you don 'feel like it' |
| 17:06.24 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:27 AM): wtf |
| 17:06.26 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:28 AM): is that |
| 17:06.28 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:29 AM): sargun |
| 17:06.38 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:54:38 AM): BYE sargun |
| 17:06.40 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:54:48 AM): you have no idea what it is to be a friend |
| 17:06.44 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:54:49 AM): at all |
| 17:06.46 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:54:58 AM): your acting like dan or chris or natty |
| 17:06.48 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:55:03 AM): or someone i would expect this less from |
| 17:06.50 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:55:14 AM): im alone. ok i still dont wanna see you get lost |
| 17:06.52 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:55:16 AM): thats what you told me |
| 17:06.54 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:55:18 AM): right now |
| 17:06.56 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:55:25 AM): |
| 17:06.58 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:56:20 AM): theres a real big fucking difference between showing a person you actualld DO love them |
| 17:07.01 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:56:22 AM): and you |
| 17:07.03 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:56:27 AM): and how your treating me all today |
| 17:07.05 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:56:50 AM): god |
| 17:07.07 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (1:57:05 AM): i hope you enjoy your life |
| 17:07.09 | Lakshmi | atarack went idle at 2:18:39 AM. |
| 17:07.13 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:00 AM): you know how much it hurts that you wont see me tmrw |
| 17:07.15 | tensai | Jayce^: would you kick her please? |
| 17:07.15 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:08 AM): i want you to see me for a long time |
| 17:07.17 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:13 AM): doa 3-5 then |
| 17:07.19 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:21 AM): i wanna see you for a long period of time |
| 17:07.21 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:19:29 AM): stop being so rude |
| 17:07.21 | Sargun | dude |
| 17:07.23 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:24:06 AM): i cant listen to this anymore |
| 17:07.25 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:24:11 AM): fucking shoot me |
| 17:07.26 | Sargun | uhh... |
| 17:07.27 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:24:27 AM): i need a box |
| 17:07.29 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:13 AM): see |
| 17:07.31 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:14 AM): i askd |
| 17:07.33 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:18 AM): when you were gunna be nice |
| 17:07.35 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:23 AM): would u do random nice things for me |
| 17:07.37 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:31 AM): like randomly ask me to spend more time with you etc |
| 17:07.39 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:36 AM): and you said OK |
| 17:07.43 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:46 AM): so you say one things and then do another? |
| 17:07.45 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:25:49 AM): how does that work |
| 17:07.47 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:19 AM): like you dont even have a good reason as to why you dont wanna spend the time with me |
| 17:07.50 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:25 AM): its cause you don 'feel like it' |
| 17:07.52 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:27 AM): wtf |
| 17:07.54 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:28 AM): is that |
| 17:07.55 | tensai | TimRiker, goozbach, elg, maquis? somebody with ops? |
| 17:07.56 | Lakshmi | fireangl920 (2:26:29 AM): sargun |
| 17:08.00 | Sargun | -great- |
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| 17:10.33 | Lakshmi | SORRY |
| 17:10.38 | Lakshmi | my fault |
| 17:10.43 | Lakshmi | realized that wasnt PM |
| 17:10.44 | Lakshmi | sorry |
| 17:10.44 | Sargun | You could have /FLUSHQ |
| 17:10.54 | Lakshmi | idk what that is |
| 17:11.08 | Sargun | Flush send queue |
| 17:11.21 | *** kick/#utah [Lakshmi!n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
| 17:11.24 | Sargun | hehe |
| 17:11.29 | Jayce^ | sorry, was on another screen |
| 17:11.34 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
| 17:13.44 | *** kick/#utah [tensai!n=fugalh@dhcp12.cs.nmsu.edu] by elg (for good measure) |
| 17:16.45 | Sargun | hehe |
| 17:18.32 | *** kick/#utah [emcnabb!n=fugalh@dhcp12.cs.nmsu.edu] by elg (stop throwing bricks at my car) |
| 17:18.42 | *** kick/#utah [elg!n=fugalh@dhcp12.cs.nmsu.edu] by elg (abuse of power) |
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| 17:21.20 | elg | i'm glad you didn't offend tensai permanently, sjansen |
| 17:22.01 | sjansen | What? He's knows every word is true and I have written evidence to prove it. |
| 17:22.47 | sjansen | Unfortunately, the pictures were destroyed when rain leaked into my car trunk, but don't tell tensai. |
| 17:23.03 | Sargun | Doesn't emcnabb have got powers? |
| 17:23.12 | sjansen | tensai: Oh, uhm, hi. Howz it goin'? |
| 17:23.18 | Sargun | "GodMode" |
| 17:23.37 | tensai | sjansen: dandy |
| 17:23.58 | *** mode/#utah [+o tensai] by ChanServ |
| 17:24.13 | *** mode/#utah [+o sjansen] by ChanServ |
| 17:28.32 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.20 | *** kick/#utah [elg!n=tensai@joanna.zmonkey.org] by tensai (for eating tensai's popcorn) |
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| 17:29.51 | elg | hey wait, you can't kickban me for something I didn't have the pleasure of doing |
| 17:33.21 | *** kick/#utah [elg!n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com] by sjansen (because I can) |
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| 17:33.42 | *** kick/#utah [elg!n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com] by sjansen (hey! what the?) |
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| 17:35.18 | sontek | /kick elg for being elg |
| 17:35.22 | sontek | grr |
| 17:35.26 | *** topic/#utah by emcnabb -> current topic is: Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | levi is a freedom flusher | Join the #utah last.fm group: http://www.last.fm/group/%2523utah | sjansen is a jerkhead stupid face |
| 17:35.40 | *** kick/#utah [emcnabb!n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com] by sjansen (because I can) |
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| 17:35.51 | *** kick/#utah [sjansen!n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (not anymore) |
| 17:36.25 | elg | so what is last.fm and why should I join it? |
| 17:36.48 | sontek | last.fm will suggest music for you based on your current listening habits and your friends listening habits |
| 17:36.59 | *** topic/#utah by emcnabb -> current topic is: Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | levi is a freedom flusher | Join the #utah last.fm group: http://www.last.fm/group/%2523utah | sjansen and elg are jerkhead stupid faces |
| 17:37.24 | elg | do I have to use some malformed evolutionary throwback client? |
| 17:37.28 | elg | to play my music? |
| 17:37.34 | elg | (if I want to participate) |
| 17:37.55 | sontek | banshee has a plugin for it |
| 17:37.58 | Jayce^ | elg, integrated in most clients, or has a third party app to track strange clients like itunes |
| 17:38.01 | sontek | not sure about any others, since I use banshee |
| 17:38.10 | Jayce^ | amarok supports it too |
| 17:38.14 | elg | currently I use vlc most of the time |
| 17:38.23 | elg | I suppose if there's a plugin or whatever for vlc I'll play along |
| 17:38.55 | dataw0lf | there is. |
| 17:40.09 | dataw0lf | look for 'audioscrobbler' plugin |
| 18:03.29 | levi | I used to use that, but I've switched audio players about a zillion times since then. |
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| 18:03.50 | levi | (back when it was actually called audioscrobbler) |
| 18:04.11 | tensai | so does last.fm stream music or just send you suggestions |
| 18:05.09 | synic | tensai: yes. |
| 18:06.14 | tensai | synic: thank you for the technically correct but completely useless answer :) |
| 18:06.46 | synic | tensai: hehe, it suggests music (either on the site or in your music player), and you can also stream music from last.fm. |
| 18:06.48 | elg | levi: what do you use now? |
| 18:06.49 | goozbach | synic: do you work for microsoft? |
| 18:07.06 | elg | vlc is underwhelming as a player, but it plays everything and doesn't try to save the whales |
| 18:07.08 | synic | you can listen to clips of music, or listen to a radio station that has suggested tracks in it. |
| 18:07.11 | synic | goozbach: :P |
| 18:07.30 | elg | a music player should play music and stay out of the way, not hog RAM and try to be cooler than justin timberlake |
| 18:07.47 | jsmith | elg: Amen! |
| 18:08.23 | goozbach | http://www.ajokes.com/jokes/1725.html |
| 18:08.45 | elg | i would like it if the silly thing could be encouraged to remember the playlist between invocations though |
| 18:09.17 | tensai | goozbach: that was the one I was thinking of |
| 18:09.27 | goozbach | tensai: I know. |
| 18:09.33 | levi | elg: Well, I don't actually listen to music from Linux at all at the moment, since my desktops are all either Windows or OS X. |
| 18:09.43 | goozbach | I was just helping everyone else |
| 18:09.47 | elg | well I'm talking about os x |
| 18:09.56 | levi | elg: So I either use iTunes or WMP, since I've got iTunes installed to manage my iPod. |
| 18:10.10 | tensai | goozbach: I couldn't remember the lead up. just the punch line. |
| 18:10.42 | levi | And my music listening patterns follow roughly along the 'listen to an album I feel like listening to, then switch to a different one' lines, which doesn't demand much from a player. |
| 18:12.12 | elg | which is exactly why itunes is a terrible choice :) |
| 18:12.55 | levi | Eh, it works fine. |
| 18:13.09 | levi | Mostly I play music through my iPod. |
| 18:13.42 | levi | I have ceased caring about my music playing applications. |
| 18:13.54 | Jayce^ | levi, that's about where I am |
| 18:14.09 | Jayce^ | my ipod is my portable music storage, and player.. |
| 18:14.59 | levi | I need to clean out my iPod and refresh it with some new stuff I'll want to listen to. |
| 18:17.54 | elg | itunes mucks with the files on disk. and once something is in your playlist, it's pulling teeth to get it out |
| 18:17.55 | levi | elg: So when did Von drink the Ron Paul kool-aid? |
| 18:17.59 | elg | that's why I don't do itunes |
| 18:18.08 | elg | my family is very libertarian |
| 18:18.47 | elg | i'm a bit more cynical at this point. I don't have the heart to find out if I like ron paul or not until it looks like there's a chance he might actually win, which is unlikely |
| 18:18.49 | levi | elg: I don't particularly like that about iTunes, but I also don't really care enough to find something better. |
| 18:19.05 | elg | plus it doesn't do ogg |
| 18:19.19 | elg | vlc just plays stuff, and does ogg, so it's what I use (I too have stopped caring) |
| 18:19.45 | elg | it also plays all the videos quicktime can't |
| 18:19.45 | levi | Well, I wasn't interested in fighting another uphill battle with ogg, so I just have mp3s. |
| 18:19.56 | levi | Yeah, vlc is great. I use it as my default video player. |
| 18:20.20 | elg | i just open finder, click on music, drag what looks good to the vlc icon, and go on with life |
| 18:20.30 | elg | the whole process takes less time than waiting for itunes to even start up |
| 18:20.58 | levi | If I ever get around to using my Mac laptop when I'm listening to music again, I might try that. |
| 18:21.37 | dmdavis | I personally like foobar2000 on Windows. plays everything, saves playlists, doesn't move files, features out the wazoo if you want them, but doesn't force them on you, starts up quickly, etc. |
| 18:21.44 | elg | looks like the next release of vlc will have audioscrobbler. i'll look again then folks |
| 18:22.12 | levi | I have a laptop from work that's faster and has a higher-res screen, so I don't use my Mac as much as I'd like to. |
| 18:24.47 | tensai | can we please all stop cross posting when mailing our congress critters? |
| 18:24.53 | tensai | ~lart smorrey for starting this trend |
| 18:24.53 | ibot | whacks smorrey upside the head for starting this trend |
| 18:26.07 | levi | I would like to just stop hearing about how we're doing everything completely wrong and that this OTHER way that's way different from the way things actually work now is REALLY much better although we've never actually tried it. |
| 18:26.55 | goozbach | postfix gurus: isn't there a way to delay mail delivery? |
| 18:27.04 | elg | levi: you mean you're sick of people telling you to switch to redhat? |
| 18:27.05 | Tene | goozbach: at |
| 18:27.19 | goozbach | like I want smtp to still accept, but delay local delivery. |
| 18:27.27 | levi | elg: Um... yeah! :) |
| 18:27.32 | elg | goozbach: why? |
| 18:27.39 | goozbach | I want to migrate /home but my mail server is using maildir |
| 18:27.51 | elg | so stop it |
| 18:28.01 | goozbach | I'm trying to migrate /home from one netapp to another |
| 18:28.09 | goozbach | I plan on stopping IMAP |
| 18:28.19 | Supaplex | while postfix is offline, it'll act like greylisting. real mail will redeliver |
| 18:28.27 | goozbach | but I don't want to stop the smtp server itself |
| 18:28.48 | elg | you expecting an email from your mortgage broker? |
| 18:28.52 | goozbach | Supaplex: it's not that easy, I still need to do outbound email. |
| 18:29.04 | Tene | Hmm. |
| 18:29.09 | goozbach | we send out 2-3 newsletters per minute |
| 18:29.21 | Supaplex | you could use a local delivery agent, and have it tell postfix tempfail |
| 18:29.22 | elg | do they have to go out that minute? |
| 18:29.33 | elg | the sent mail will queue up fine |
| 18:29.34 | goozbach | and I need the smtp server to still act as an outbound mail server. |
| 18:29.46 | elg | an intermediary you mean? |
| 18:29.56 | elg | i see. fun |
| 18:30.39 | goozbach | yeah |
| 18:30.55 | goozbach | if it wasn't for that, I'd just shut down postfix and have at it. |
| 18:31.06 | elg | is it something you can do at night? |
| 18:32.01 | goozbach | I'm planning on doing it at night |
| 18:32.22 | goozbach | which incidentally is the same time we send all our morning newsletters |
| 18:32.59 | tensai | could you send the morning newsletters from another server? |
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| 18:49.17 | Lakshmi | hey |
| 18:49.30 | elg | could you rsync /home over, then you bring everything down and re-rsync (should go real quick), then switch over |
| 18:49.41 | elg | then your downtime is on the order of 2-3 minutes |
| 18:49.49 | Lakshmi | hi sargun |
| 18:50.04 | tensai | yes, the rsync twice (or more) trick works well. I've used it many times. |
| 18:50.37 | elg | as have i |
| 18:50.38 | Tene | hey Lakshmi |
| 18:50.44 | tensai | used it to migrate a few hundred gigs over the Internet without anybody noticing |
| 18:50.53 | Supaplex | ditto! |
| 18:50.59 | elg | tensai: I bet someone noticed |
| 18:51.00 | Tene | Just stick it in a for loop. what could go wrong? |
| 18:51.06 | elg | if not your users :) |
| 18:51.21 | tensai | elg: ok. without anybody *complaining* |
| 18:51.31 | Supaplex | Tene likes his forks, with lit fuses ;) |
| 18:51.45 | elg | hooray, gcc is done building |
| 18:52.08 | Lakshmi | hey tene |
| 18:54.24 | goozbach | elg: it's being snappmirrored to the new location. |
| 18:54.37 | goozbach | ( a NETAPP technology ) |
| 18:55.09 | goozbach | the problem stems from the fact that the destination isn't writeable until I break the sync |
| 18:55.32 | Lakshmi | hey goozbach |
| 18:55.43 | Lakshmi | people should stop being so stubborn |
| 18:55.47 | Jayce^ | goozbach, we were just playing with netapp's this AM also |
| 18:56.08 | Jayce^ | Lakshmi, just a warning, paste like that again and it's KB time |
| 18:56.29 | Lakshmi | Jayce^ hehe yeah sorry but it was an honest mistake |
| 18:56.32 | Lakshmi | ask tene |
| 18:58.11 | goozbach | Jayce^: have you played with their virtual appliances |
| 18:58.14 | goozbach | great for testing this fun stuff |
| 18:58.22 | goozbach | and they run great under XEN |
| 18:58.26 | Zelut | rsimpkins: ping |
| 18:59.13 | rsimpkins | Zelut: pong |
| 18:59.15 | goozbach | ~seen gundy |
| 18:59.17 | ibot | gundy <~gabe@www.castlerockgifts.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1254d 19h 52m 22s ago, saying: 'PatrickDK: I thought you were asking me the contents of my zaptel.conf'. |
| 18:59.32 | goozbach | wow! 1254 days? |
| 18:59.40 | goozbach | that can't be right. |
| 18:59.43 | rsimpkins | I think he hates us. |
| 18:59.55 | goozbach | gundy? |
| 19:00.03 | jsmith | Yeah, he's not much into IRC |
| 19:00.09 | rsimpkins | 4 months absent. |
| 19:00.12 | tensai | ~seen ggundy |
| 19:00.14 | ibot | ggundy <n=ggundy@160.7.251.57> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 463d 2m 52s ago, saying: 'Don't settle for anything less then Type 1'. |
| 19:01.01 | goozbach | ~convert 1254 days to months |
| 19:01.20 | goozbach | ~convert 1254 days to years |
| 19:01.27 | goozbach | wow |
| 19:01.48 | goozbach | ~convert 463 days to months |
| 19:02.02 | goozbach | ~convert 463 days to years |
| 19:02.08 | tensai | ~convert 463 days to eons |
| 19:02.22 | elg | you don't sound so sure, ibot |
| 19:02.24 | tensai | ~convert 463 days to millenia |
| 19:02.24 | Zelut | rsimpkins: just noticed the ubuntu utah link is outdated on the plug site. |
| 19:02.51 | Zelut | rsimpkins: http://utah.ubuntu-us.org is current. http://ubuntu-utah.org is stale. |
| 19:02.56 | tensai | ~convert 463 days to era |
| 19:03.16 | dmdavis | ~convert 463 days to fortnights |
| 19:03.23 | goozbach | who's in charge of the openclue planet? |
| 19:03.27 | goozbach | isn't it gabe? |
| 19:03.33 | elg | ya |
| 19:03.35 | goozbach | my feed changed |
| 19:03.44 | elg | congrats |
| 19:03.53 | goozbach | and I set up a redirect rule for my old feed |
| 19:04.05 | goozbach | but the planet doesn't seem to honor the http 301 |
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| 19:04.50 | tensai | good idea: discussing a difference of opinion with your boss |
| 19:05.13 | tensai | bad idea: sending an angry response to your boss and CCing the whole company |
| 19:05.30 | Tene | good idea: arson |
| 19:05.38 | mrpull | tensai: gotta love the overactive CC'er |
| 19:05.43 | Tene | better idea: blame the arson on the recently-disgruntled employee |
| 19:05.49 | tensai | mrpull: turned out to be his last CC |
| 19:07.15 | goozbach | tensai: where do you work? |
| 19:07.32 | mrpull | we need one more person to join the #utah last.fm group |
| 19:07.40 | mrpull | http://www.last.fm/group/%2523utah |
| 19:07.41 | tensai | goozbach: wyoming.com |
| 19:07.52 | goozbach | I knew that, methinks |
| 19:07.54 | tensai | guess i should say angry and threatening |
| 19:08.00 | goozbach | just forgot. |
| 19:08.08 | goozbach | Join last.fm! |
| 19:08.14 | goozbach | Joint last.fm! |
| 19:08.59 | goozbach | exaile just died! |
| 19:09.16 | tensai | mrpull: why the need for one more? |
| 19:09.23 | tensai | is there a price break at 28? |
| 19:09.33 | mrpull | gotta have ten members for some of the features (like charting trends) |
| 19:10.07 | tensai | methinks I'm looking at the wrong page |
| 19:12.25 | tensai | I don't really listen to music. mostly just podcasts. |
| 19:26.42 | goozbach | I love lamp |
| 19:27.59 | jsmith | tensai: You could still sign up, and see if you like it ;-) |
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| 19:31.43 | goozbach | ~thank emcnabb |
| 19:31.43 | ibot | goozbach: gern geschehen |
| 19:31.53 | goozbach | ~pineapple emcnabb |
| 19:32.46 | emcnabb | ~You'reWelcomeForSomething goozbach |
| 19:44.05 | dataw0lf | ohp, owner of Clean Flicks apparently caught soliciting sex from 14 year olds |
| 19:45.38 | dataw0lf | ohp, someone told me wrong, it's the owner of a clean flicks store |
| 19:45.48 | mrpull | dataw0lf: that is awful, but in a terrible way unsurprising |
| 19:45.58 | dataw0lf | "Police say some of the sex acts took place in the movie store, where they also found a large stash of pornographic movies. " |
| 19:46.03 | dataw0lf | mrpull: Indeed. |
| 19:46.48 | dataw0lf | still, can't argue the terrible irony. |
| 19:47.35 | mrpull | I understand cleanflicks is trying out the netflix model |
| 19:47.47 | mrpull | I don't understand why someone wouldn't just use netflix |
| 19:48.04 | mrpull | you can set "ratings caps" in netflix to avoid seeing stuff you'd rather not. |
| 19:49.17 | Tene | dataw0lf: source? |
| 19:49.22 | dataw0lf | well, I think that the whole point is that cleanflicks edits movies |
| 19:49.31 | mrpull | they don't edit films anymore |
| 19:49.36 | dataw0lf | Tene: it's breaking news, I got told by somebody watching the news right now |
| 19:49.39 | dataw0lf | mrpull: oh really? |
| 19:49.46 | dataw0lf | good. |
| 19:50.01 | mrpull | so the WHOLE business model is they don't rent anything "higher" than a pg13 |
| 19:50.47 | mrpull | I didn't take exception to people having the naughty bits taken out of movies... I realize that pisses off a lot of people, but it doesn't bug me. |
| 19:52.33 | rsimpkins | mrpull: I think it just raises the question of how much you can take out, and if you can take any out can you take as much out as you want, and if so, is that a crime. |
| 19:53.08 | Tene | I think the proposition that *editing a film* could be a *crime* is a bit much. |
| 19:53.32 | rsimpkins | Well, crime is too strong a word. Violation of some law might be better. |
| 19:54.08 | Tene | When laws are that specific and strict I think there's a problem. |
| 19:54.17 | mrpull | if I own a film, I should be able to view it as I see fit. should it be a violation of the law to turn the down the volume to avoid having my kids hear a curse word in a song? |
| 19:54.38 | mrpull | I can see why artists take exception |
| 19:54.49 | rsimpkins | mrpull: No, for personal use I think you are well protected. But if you re-disribute your editied version that's where it might get dicey. |
| 19:54.52 | dataw0lf | why would you be playing the song in the first place, then? |
| 19:54.55 | mrpull | but if I buy their art and cover it with masking tape, it is my art and not theirs anymore |
| 19:55.25 | dataw0lf | I just don't see the point. |
| 19:55.33 | rsimpkins | Niether do I honestly. |
| 19:55.35 | mrpull | dataw0lf: I probably wouldn't, but I think the example stands |
| 19:55.47 | rsimpkins | If you don't agree with the moral premiss of a film - don't watch it - edited or otherwise. |
| 19:56.09 | mrpull | rsimpkins: I agree |
| 19:56.27 | mrpull | rsimpkins: but I think other people should still be able to cut out the crap if they choose to. |
| 19:56.56 | rsimpkins | mrpull: I agree that 'people' should. But I'm not sure a business can, under current law, and I think that's what they were fighting over. |
| 19:56.56 | dataw0lf | sure, you can edit your personal movie |
| 19:57.31 | rsimpkins | I had to edit a video for someone once. It was a G rated Disney movie. |
| 19:57.45 | rsimpkins | The mom took exception to several of the 'naughty' words in the film. |
| 19:57.53 | rsimpkins | So she paid me to edit them out. |
| 19:58.12 | mrpull | clean flicks did goofy stuff like saying they were a coop and everybody owned the movies to get around some of the ugly restrictions |
| 19:58.28 | mrpull | I was never their customer, but I think they should have been permitted to continue business as they were |
| 19:59.04 | rsimpkins | mrpull: The point of what I'm saying above is that for some people even the edited movies are still too dirty. :) |
| 19:59.39 | dataw0lf | man |
| 19:59.43 | mrpull | that's cool with me |
| 19:59.48 | rsimpkins | I had some friends walk out of Aladdin because they morally objected to animated revealing clothing. |
| 20:00.15 | mrpull | rsimpkins: that's just silly... but their choice I suppose :) |
| 20:01.09 | rsimpkins | mrpull: Yeah, I'm surprised they still watch Sleeping Beauty - seeing those unmarried people KISS and everything. How immoral! :) |
| 20:02.35 | *** part/#utah Supaplex (i=supaplex@166-70-62-194.ip.xmission.com) |
| 20:02.36 | *** join/#utah Supaplex (i=supaplex@166-70-62-194.ip.xmission.com) |
| 20:09.43 | ^Migs^ | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/casino_fire |
| 20:09.47 | ^Migs^ | vegas is burning |
| 20:11.55 | elg | ^Migs^: you're gonna have to do better than that. you only got one building |
| 20:12.25 | rsimpkins | My dad used to be a Las Vegas Firefighter - for 32 years. |
| 20:12.34 | rsimpkins | He took us on some neat tours and stuff. |
| 20:12.41 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 20:12.55 | rsimpkins | Needless to say - the las vegas FD is one of the best equiped in the nation. I'm sure they can handle a little casino fire. :) |
| 20:13.21 | rsimpkins | He was on the MGM grand fire. |
| 20:13.21 | Supaplex | http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_hotel_and_casino_in_Las_Vegas%2C_Nevada_is_on_fire |
| 20:13.24 | rsimpkins | One of the first responders. |
| 20:15.11 | rsimpkins | They have really cool equipment for fires this size. I've seen it parked in the station - but it would be kinda neat to see it in action. |
| 20:15.30 | rsimpkins | They have like fully mobile communications trucks and what not. |
| 20:16.00 | rsimpkins | Probably half the engines at the downtown station are command and control related - not firefighting related. |
| 20:18.04 | ^Migs^ | where are the statistics which demonstrate that the LVFD is one of the best equipped in the nation? |
| 20:19.01 | Supaplex | the fact that sin city has staved off fire and brimstone for decades? ;-p |
| 20:19.17 | tensai | rsimpkins: are the fire trucks as comically designed as all the casinos? |
| 20:19.30 | tensai | first time I went to las vegas I felt like I was in toon town |
| 20:19.44 | ^Migs^ | I went to las vegas last month. It sucks. |
| 20:19.52 | ^Migs^ | kind of a trashy town |
| 20:25.37 | goozbach | it's called Sin City for a reason |
| 20:25.42 | rsimpkins | tensai: They are pretty cool. |
| 20:26.07 | rsimpkins | I grew up there, so I'm used to seeing half naked, or mostly naked, or drunk/stoned/homeless people I guess. |
| 20:26.35 | Supaplex | hehe. what a nice qotd! < Abo`> DUH, I accidently set /dev/tty0 my mouse in xorg.conf and now when the machine starts when I try to type the mouse moves :/ |
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| 21:54.01 | Lakshmi | hey Supaplex sup? |
| 21:54.10 | Lakshmi | who knows where fozzmoo is ? |
| 21:56.09 | findlay | ~whereis fozzmoo |
| 21:57.40 | goozbach | perl perl perl |
| 21:57.45 | goozbach | invoke fozzmoo! |
| 21:58.55 | findlay | ~whois fozzmoo |
| 21:59.03 | findlay | ~whyis fozzmoo |
| 21:59.19 | findlay | ~whatis fozzmoo |
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| 22:01.59 | goozbach | ~seen fozzmoo |
| 22:02.03 | ibot | fozzmoo <n=fozz@12.145.33.34> was last seen on IRC in channel #utos, 16h 39m 51s ago, saying: 'Too bad Pete's such an ignored voice because he's a (D)'. |
| 22:04.50 | tensai | that really is too bad. all hail fozzmoo! |
| 22:07.48 | goozbach | fozz is at disneyland IIRC |
| 22:07.57 | goozbach | ~disney fozzmoo |
| 22:17.13 | Heartsbane | nothing wrong with being a (D), nothing wrong with being a (R) they are both equally screwed up |
| 22:23.08 | levi | Heartsbane: No, the democrats are EVIL! They rig elections! :P |
| 22:25.09 | Jayce^ | pashdown, I just got rep Sumsion to go talk to Daw about his bill, Sumsion does *not* like it :) |
| 22:25.55 | pashdown | thanks jayce |
| 22:26.55 | nick125 | Anyone here use mpd? I'm trying to find a better scrobbler than mpdscribbler. |
| 22:30.31 | Heartsbane | levi: oh okay |
| 22:31.07 | unum | levi: no the eff rigs election in favor of the dems |
| 22:31.12 | levi | Heartsbane: See Bryan Sant's (or whoever it was) tirade on the PLUG list for more reasons they're evil. |
| 22:31.12 | unum | geez get it right :) |
| 22:31.19 | levi | unum: Oh, is that how it works? |
| 22:31.38 | unum | I thought so |
| 22:31.47 | Heartsbane | levi: naw |
| 22:32.06 | levi | pashdown: Hey, how come you couldn't get the EFF to rig the election for you? Isn't there some Democrat cabal that can take care of that stuff? |
| 22:32.28 | pashdown | not one that i control :-) |
| 22:32.56 | pashdown | no, i just live in utah |
| 22:33.02 | levi | Hopefully not. :) |
| 22:33.46 | unum | as much as I love a debate about politics I decided I would stay out of that one since it was so off topic |
| 22:33.53 | unum | but the currency one would be funny |
| 22:33.54 | macnewbold | anyone in here do artwork and stuff, where they keep the copyright but sell a license? we're looking for an agreement we can have someone sign that gives them exclusive right to use it, granting license for certain uses and quantities, with a royalty agreement for any further use |
| 22:34.09 | unum | I should set up currency list on my mail server and invite everyone over there :) |
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| 22:34.38 | unum | anyone here know if you can select across multiple databases with postgresql |
| 22:34.56 | tensai | unum: last I knew it wasn't possible |
| 22:35.00 | unum | :( |
| 22:35.25 | levi | macnewbold: That sounds suspiciously like a commercial software license agreement. Have you considered the ethical ramifications? ;) |
| 22:35.31 | unum | I talked to my rep a little last night, he thought comcast and qwest were backing hb 139 but he may have been thinking of something else |
| 22:35.40 | unum | he was going to look at it and get back to me |
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| 22:39.17 | macnewbold | ~educate levi |
| 22:39.18 | ibot | ACTION teaches levi the basics, including how to RTM. |
| 22:39.27 | macnewbold | hm, that wasn't as satisfying as I was hoping |
| 22:39.31 | macnewbold | ~noodle levi |
| 22:40.08 | unum | don't they have wireless at the capitol |
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| 23:36.44 | vontrapp | is al gore really on the google board of directors? |
| 23:37.07 | vontrapp | i bet he would like to be, having invented the internet an all |
| 23:37.36 | mrpull | they do have a big "green" push |
| 23:37.49 | mrpull | they are public, it should be easy to verify |
| 23:38.41 | vontrapp | nope, don't see it |
| 23:38.46 | mrpull | http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html |
| 23:39.00 | vontrapp | no al gore |
| 23:39.02 | dataw0lf | no, he's on Apple's board, I think. He's a senior advisor / consultant at Google, however. |
| 23:39.26 | vontrapp | According to official campaign fund raising filings posted at www.opensecrets.org, Ron Paul’s top contributor is well known internet giant Google. Google, with Al Gore on the board of directors, has a long history of progressive political activism, both in the way they censor search results to bury conservative slanted stories, and in their campaign contribution habits, which is solidly Democrat, with the exception of Ron Paul. |
| 23:40.17 | dataw0lf | Heh. What is that, some drivel from Conservapedia? |
| 23:40.20 | vontrapp | sounds like balony ot me |
| 23:40.32 | vontrapp | "The New Media Journal" |
| 23:41.44 | dataw0lf | ooooooooooh, makes sense now |
| 23:41.57 | dataw0lf | Google censored them from Google News a while back because of hate content |
| 23:42.05 | vontrapp | haha |
| 23:42.21 | levi | A quick scan of their home page makes their political slant fairly obvious. :) |
| 23:42.54 | dataw0lf | whew, man, that site is hard to look at. |
| 23:43.14 | vontrapp | it's hard to read, too |
| 23:43.28 | dataw0lf | I don't know if I dare. |
| 23:43.36 | levi | "The New Media Alliance" is apparently a bunch of right-wing propaganda created to oppose the real media, which is clearly controlled by those evil Liberals. |
| 23:44.28 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 23:44.42 | beandog | what happened to the old media alliance? |
| 23:44.53 | levi | beandog: That's what you see when you turn on TV. |
| 23:45.04 | beandog | the food channel? |
| 23:45.05 | levi | Like FOX News, that den of Liberal corruption. :P |
| 23:45.32 | beandog | I cant stand watching the news shows |
| 23:45.35 | dataw0lf | hey! they're "Fair and Balanced"! |
| 23:45.37 | beandog | especially when they all use that same reporting tone. |
| 23:45.37 | vontrapp | hah, this article claims his campaign is "dangerous" because it promotes party hopping |
| 23:46.01 | dataw0lf | speaking of, did anyone hear about the Mass Effect fiasco? |
| 23:47.21 | levi | Hey, it's got Marina Sirtis in it. |
| 23:47.45 | dataw0lf | ? |
| 23:47.47 | mrpull | what was the Mass Effect fiasco? |
| 23:48.00 | levi | dataw0lf: She's listed in the cast for Mass Effect. |
| 23:48.34 | dataw0lf | mrpull: a discussion panel on FOX News where this "expert" made a bunch of wildly inaccurate claims about Mass Effect being laden with graphic sexual content, full frontal nudity, etc |
| 23:48.38 | levi | She played Deanna Troi on ST:TNG. |
| 23:48.48 | dataw0lf | so the expert was this woman who has some books on Amazon |
| 23:48.53 | mrpull | ah geeze. |
| 23:49.02 | mrpull | did you ever see the fox news porn website |
| 23:49.10 | dataw0lf | so a bunch of angry gamers went and started reviewing her books saying "yea, this book is full of graphical sexual content" etc |
| 23:49.30 | vontrapp | hahaha |
| 23:49.39 | goozbach | bouts of high stress are fun |
| 23:49.39 | dataw0lf | ihttp://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/angry-gamers-st.html |
| 23:49.39 | mrpull | my coworkers and I joke about how they look for any reason to put blurred out naughty bits on their channel |
| 23:49.51 | goozbach | I just made a change which broke production |
| 23:50.09 | vontrapp | ~console goozbach |
| 23:50.10 | ibot | ACTION gives goozbach the consolation moose |
| 23:50.10 | dataw0lf | well the funny thing is FOX News is attacking the game, but the content of the game is less offensive than FOX's primetime network lineup |
| 23:50.14 | goozbach | vontrapp: no need |
| 23:50.18 | tensai | vontrapp: remember that the data at opensecrets.org also shows when employees of a company donate to a politician, not necessarily the company itself |
| 23:50.22 | goozbach | I'm being 100% serious |
| 23:50.24 | beandog | dataw0lf, lol, true. |
| 23:50.39 | dataw0lf | (and I've beaten the game once, almost twice now) |
| 23:50.44 | goozbach | I figured out what the problem was, fixed, it. and we were back running in less than two minutes |
| 23:51.04 | goozbach | I am the hero |
| 23:51.20 | vontrapp | ah, nothing like breaking something so you can fix it in two minutes and be a hero |
| 23:51.37 | goozbach | I didn't break |
| 23:51.40 | tensai | it's all about the job security |
| 23:51.46 | vontrapp | :) |
| 23:51.58 | dataw0lf | "It was a duplex multi capacitor problem with the high end ARP requests we're receiving" Translation: "I accidentally stopped the service" |
| 23:52.35 | goozbach | I made an improvement |
| 23:52.47 | goozbach | upon which, a dependancy broke |
| 23:52.55 | goozbach | which I then fixed |
| 23:53.45 | goozbach | so it wasn't "here let me be a hero" it was "OCRAP! OCRAP! OCRAP! what did I do?", followed by "I know how to fix that!" |
| 23:53.56 | levi | Heh. You can see the offending Mass Effect scene on YouTube. |
| 23:54.23 | levi | There are faces! And an arm! How lascivious. |
| 23:54.30 | goozbach | levi: that scene has side boob! |
| 23:54.40 | goozbach | and back/bottom dimples! |
| 23:54.43 | beandog | boobage! |
| 23:55.00 | beandog | talk about free advertising to the under 14 crowd. |
| 23:55.11 | beandog | though I doubt many of them watch fox news. |
| 23:55.12 | levi | goozbach: The version I saw must have been edited, then. :P |
| 23:55.51 | dataw0lf | Mass Effect is about as sexually risque as a 8 hour long lecture by Noam Chomsky |
| 23:57.54 | dmdavis | for the record |
| 23:59.47 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, wow.. I mean.. wow.. that's strong.. |
