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| 02:47.37 | ibot | gives fozzmoo a stern handshake and a pat on the back. and then kisses him. |
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| 03:37.25 | sirusdm | What's up room? It's quiet in here.. |
| 03:45.01 | Sargun | mp |
| 03:45.03 | Sargun | er |
| 03:45.03 | Sargun | no |
| 03:45.14 | Sargun | The quietness is only an illusion |
| 03:50.09 | sirusdm | hmm..lol, ok, my bad |
| 03:50.49 | herlo | where? theres illusions? |
| 03:52.03 | Sargun | sirusdm: what's up?\ |
| 03:54.52 | Sargun | I think I broke FaceBook :-X |
| 03:54.55 | Sargun | //711chan.org/rave/src/120077811747.gif |
| 03:54.57 | Sargun | er |
| 03:55.03 | Sargun | DO NOT GO THERE -BAD PASTE- |
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| 04:34.53 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 04:36.57 | herlo | ~lart Sargun |
| 04:36.57 | ibot | cuts Sargun into thin stripes |
| 04:46.18 | xbmodder_ | o.O? |
| 04:46.45 | xbmodder_ | I dislike copying windows' pasting mechanism |
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| 04:48.45 | Lakshmi | hi |
| 04:48.57 | xbmodder_ | o.O |
| 04:49.03 | Lakshmi | xbmodder_ hey |
| 04:49.08 | Lakshmi | my aim broke :( |
| 04:49.11 | xbmodder_ | why |
| 04:49.11 | Lakshmi | pm me. |
| 04:49.13 | xbmodder_ | you got dumped |
| 04:49.24 | Lakshmi | story of my life isnt it? |
| 04:52.30 | xbmodder_ | heh |
| 04:55.22 | levi | Good evening. |
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| 05:20.22 | levi | So, I've successfully written a program in Haskell that takes advantage of the State monad. |
| 05:20.32 | xbmodder_ | yeah |
| 05:21.08 | levi | It's been a long time since learning a new programming language made me feel like an idiot. |
| 05:30.28 | herlo | jsmith-away: ask fozzmoo what he needs help with when you get this :) |
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| 05:48.50 | fozzmoo | kpdf is a nicer PDF reader than evince. |
| 05:48.53 | fozzmoo | Well, this time. |
| 05:49.10 | nick125 | evince is a piece of junk. |
| 05:49.35 | fozzmoo | It does better work than xpdf and gv most of the time. |
| 05:49.48 | fozzmoo | (which is really saying where I'm coming from, now where I am now.) |
| 05:50.14 | fozzmoo | nick125: I won't tell evince what you said. ;-) |
| 05:50.22 | nick125 | fozzmoo: Go ahead :p |
| 05:50.26 | herlo | acroread is better than both, but non-fre |
| 05:50.28 | herlo | e |
| 05:50.43 | fozzmoo | I think acrobat would not be better, in my definition. |
| 05:51.00 | fozzmoo | My problem with evince right now is that when I scroll any significant distance, it makes me wait while it loads the data. |
| 05:51.03 | fozzmoo | kpdf doesn't do that. |
| 05:51.09 | fozzmoo | acrobat takes 10 minutes just to get started. |
| 05:51.11 | herlo | evince can do something that kpdf and gpdf and acroread cannt do, read .ps files |
| 05:51.25 | fozzmoo | Yeah. that's true. |
| 05:51.26 | herlo | fozzmoo: not the latest one, it comes up in aabout 20 seconds |
| 05:51.27 | fozzmoo | gv also. |
| 05:51.31 | herlo | right |
| 05:51.47 | nick125 | evince is extremely slow, especially when searching and scrolling. Not to mention for some reason, it decides to hold my mixer hostage. |
| 05:52.25 | herlo | nick125: you have had a *very* different experience from me, my friend |
| 05:52.36 | fozzmoo | I'll second the slow stuff. |
| 05:53.48 | herlo | I also think it depends on whether you are rendering pdfs generated by word or acrobat/ghostscript. |
| 05:54.51 | fozzmoo | Maybe it's just the dang GTK crap it's built on top of. :) |
| 05:55.03 | herlo | not sure |
| 05:55.32 | herlo | but I have other qualms with evince, like the fact that sometimes it doesn't even render a page when it clearly sees one |
| 05:55.50 | fozzmoo | Well, it looks like i'm goign to be up all frickin night edumacating myself on Asterisk AMI. |
| 05:56.15 | herlo | fozzmoo: get me some |
| 05:56.37 | levi | Me too. |
| 05:56.42 | levi | I've had far too little sleep. |
| 05:56.51 | levi | And I'm trying to parse ELF headers. :/ |
| 05:56.54 | fozzmoo | herlo/levi: I'll leave it on my doorstep. :) |
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| 06:04.31 | herlo | fozzmoo: no, you'll deliver it to my doorstep and you'll like it :^) |
| 06:05.10 | xbmodder_ | levi, ouch. |
| 06:05.24 | xbmodder_ | fozzmoo, why are you? |
| 06:05.31 | sjansen | fozzmoo: I'm closer. Deliver it to me. |
| 06:05.53 | xbmodder_ | nick125, HEY |
| 06:12.08 | nick125 | xbmodder_: hi |
| 06:12.32 | herlo | sjansen: not true, I live in Murray |
| 06:12.34 | xbmodder_ | nick125, what's up? |
| 06:12.51 | herlo | fozzmoo is in Riverton |
| 06:13.05 | xbmodder_ | Fozzmo. |
| 06:13.07 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Don't let him confuse you. |
| 06:13.29 | herlo | fozzmoo: sjansen shaved his beard, he can't be trusted |
| 06:14.24 | nick125 | xbmodder_: not too much, you? |
| 06:14.33 | herlo | banana! |
| 06:14.44 | xbmodder_ | nick125, not much |
| 06:17.00 | sjansen | ~hug git |
| 06:17.00 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on git and suddenly hugs git tightly |
| 06:19.39 | xbmodder_ | ouch |
| 06:19.51 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Who ya gonna trust? A clean shaven Parrot hacker, or herlo? |
| 06:20.10 | fozzmoo | sjansen: tene is around? |
| 06:20.18 | herlo | lol |
| 06:21.36 | levi | fozzmoo: Does Rockstar taste as awful as Red Bull? |
| 06:21.57 | levi | Hey, parsing ELF headers was way easy. Nice. |
| 06:21.59 | fozzmoo | yeah. Something like that. Like cough syrup. |
| 06:22.26 | levi | I only drink energy drinks when someone gives them to me. |
| 06:22.42 | levi | Well, the Red Bull/Rockstar style drinks. |
| 06:22.51 | nick125 | xbmodder_: I want a Thinkpad X300, don't you? |
| 06:23.08 | levi | I usually just drink regular soda, or Sobe drinks if I'm driving. |
| 06:23.27 | xbmodder_ | yeah |
| 06:24.17 | nick125 | xbmodder_: What do you think? Is it real? |
| 06:25.07 | xbmodder_ | linkage |
| 06:25.24 | fozzmoo | levi: I avoid all non-diet drinks because of my diabetic condition. |
| 06:25.30 | fozzmoo | Generally, I avoid the caffeine after the afternoon. |
| 06:25.40 | fozzmoo | which is a change for me. |
| 06:25.52 | fozzmoo | I used to be time-ambivalent in my caffeine consumption. |
| 06:26.13 | xbmodder_ | fozzmoo, oh, that sucks. |
| 06:26.25 | xbmodder_ | I'm sorry about your diabetic issues |
| 06:26.45 | fozzmoo | I think I'm actually living a healthier lifestyle now than I was before I was diagnosed. |
| 06:26.54 | xbmodder_ | yeah. |
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| 06:26.58 | nick125 | xbmodder_: http://gizmodo.com/346797/ultralight-lenovo-x300-series-thinkpad-leaked |
| 06:27.09 | fozzmoo | And it's insulin-dependent diabetes, not that "I got fat and now I gotta pop these pills" diabetes. |
| 06:27.19 | xbmodder_ | oh |
| 06:27.56 | xbmodder_ | I have to see more stats. |
| 06:30.50 | levi | I need to drink less soda, certainly. |
| 06:31.42 | levi | I'm not so much addicted to the caffeine as I am the taste and feeling of drinking soda. |
| 06:32.23 | sjansen | You only say that because you haven't tried stopping. |
| 06:34.15 | sjansen | I got hooked on that Lime Coke, thought I wasn't addicted until I went a couple days without drinking any. It was a mild addiction to be sure, but for a few days I was getting headaches as I went through withdrawal. |
| 06:36.38 | pirate| | my friend was addicted to Surge. |
| 06:36.52 | pirate| | He would drink 3 or 4 two leters a day. |
| 06:36.57 | pirate| | Withdraw was rough on him. |
| 06:37.15 | nick125 | I just up and quit one day. I don't remember why. |
| 06:39.24 | sjansen | Probably all that nasty corn syrup. |
| 06:39.40 | fozzmoo | Surge was good... while it lasted. |
| 06:39.53 | fozzmoo | It was like, caffeinated, thawed green popsicles. |
| 06:40.30 | nick125 | That sounds.....weird |
| 06:43.01 | sjansen | http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp |
| 06:57.16 | fozzmoo | But it turns into formaldehyde if you look at it the wrong way! |
| 06:59.14 | pirate| | fozzmoo: I'd like to see a link for that. |
| 07:00.02 | fozzmoo | pirate|: See sjansen's link above. |
| 07:00.08 | fozzmoo | "When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol ASPARTAME coverts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. " |
| 07:00.31 | pirate| | ok, as long as it has alcohol it can do that. |
| 07:00.40 | pirate| | I just didn't see that in the link |
| 07:01.04 | pirate| | (you must remember, I have some experience with formaldehyde) |
| 07:01.12 | fozzmoo | "If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc.) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, joint pain, depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss — you probably have ASPARTAME DISEASE!" |
| 07:03.45 | herlo | yay, ASPARTAME DISEASE |
| 07:04.01 | herlo | just one more think I need to worry about now |
| 07:04.07 | herlo | thanks alot snopes |
| 07:06.55 | pirate| | herlo: just think. Eventually, you will die, regardless of what you eat or do. |
| 07:06.59 | pirate| | So don't worry :) |
| 07:09.35 | herlo | pirate|: its true |
| 07:10.27 | fozzmoo | Message: Originate successfully queued!!!! |
| 07:10.36 | fozzmoo | I'm making progress! |
| 07:10.59 | herlo | w00t! |
| 07:12.12 | fozzmoo | you read the funniest things in #asterisk |
| 07:12.15 | fozzmoo | mosty: heh, the new bootup sound on polycom's new firmware sounds like the theme to twin peaks |
| 07:12.26 | fozzmoo | jblack: daaaahhhh. dah dah. |
| 07:12.55 | herlo | fozzmoo: you don't *hear* anything in the #asterisk cannel? |
| 07:13.01 | herlo | s/cann/chann/g |
| 07:13.21 | fozzmoo | not with Test For Echo blaring. |
| 07:14.15 | herlo | hehe |
| 07:18.12 | fozzmoo | Because of girls. |
| 07:18.17 | findlay | fozzmoo: the most annoying ring tone: the theme song to airwolf in tinny beep rendition :) |
| 07:18.27 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 07:18.46 | findlay | unless you can think of something better |
| 07:18.49 | fozzmoo | The most annoying person would be the person who heard that and said, "OMG! Airwolf!" |
| 07:18.51 | findlay | ... or worse that is |
| 07:19.24 | findlay | s/e /en/ |
| 07:19.31 | fozzmoo | The only thing I remember about the show was that it had a cool theme song. |
| 07:20.20 | findlay | well I think the point was that it remains in your mind |
| 07:20.32 | findlay | hence the annoyance of such a ringtone |
| 07:21.30 | herlo | and a helicopter |
| 07:22.04 | herlo | everything is cooler with a helicopter that can destroy things with missles from miles away |
| 07:22.24 | herlo | and yet, when the bad guys had the exact models, they'd miss |
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| 07:32.22 | sjansen | I need help picking a better goto label name. |
| 07:32.40 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.40 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.40 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.40 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.40 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.41 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.43 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.16 | sjansen | As you can see, I'm converting hex to decimal. What's a better name than "mult_hexchar"? |
| 07:34.01 | herlo | int randomnumber() { return 4; //guaranteed randome from a die roll } |
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| 15:01.56 | tensai | ~lart sjansen |
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| 15:09.43 | Sargun | hey all |
| 15:11.06 | Sargun | ibotÂ: i didnt know you were like that |
| 15:11.10 | Sargun | hm. |
| 15:12.17 | linuxalien | hi sargun |
| 15:12.39 | Sargun | and today we get a different flavour of sunrise |
| 15:12.48 | Sargun | behind the clouds. |
| 15:13.46 | Sargun | i wonder how this one will be cimpared to behind the hills. |
| 15:13.47 | linuxalien | Dunno but I can't drive to coffee with a cute friend because of my half bald tires. |
| 15:14.03 | Sargun | jog. |
| 15:14.15 | Sargun | or youll regret it. |
| 15:14.26 | linuxalien | haha from North Ogden to SLC? If I were in that shape, the government would want me in the Seals |
| 15:14.42 | Sargun | and cute friends love sweaty guys Â:-P |
| 15:14.47 | Sargun | haha |
| 15:14.49 | linuxalien | hahaha |
| 15:14.59 | linuxalien | We'll see if the weather clears a bit |
| 15:15.01 | Sargun | whats the distance? |
| 15:15.20 | linuxalien | Well, at least 60 miles |
| 15:15.30 | Sargun | well, drive and then say you were planning on getting new tires in slc. |
| 15:15.44 | Sargun | and go get new tires. |
| 15:16.09 | linuxalien | Don't have money right now for new tires. I might next paycheck though |
| 15:16.13 | Sargun | and see if she'll spend the rest of the day with you. |
| 15:16.23 | mecworks_ | Hey all, nerds on ice today. I'm going to Sundance. Anyone going there too? |
| 15:16.25 | Sargun | ah, :-( |
| 15:16.47 | Sargun | mecworks: where is that again? |
| 15:16.53 | Sargun | how much is it |
| 15:16.59 | Sargun | when is it |
| 15:17.13 | Sargun | whats he age restriction |
| 15:19.18 | Sargun | linuxalien: have anyother plans? |
| 15:19.25 | Sargun | for today |
| 15:21.06 | linuxalien | Sargun, homework and movies |
| 15:26.35 | sjansen | mecworks_: Nerds on ice? We're not just talking about the drive up, are we? |
| 15:26.49 | mecworks_ | :) |
| 15:26.50 | Sargun | i would likke t shoot pidgin |
| 15:26.55 | Sargun | mobie theatre? |
| 15:26.59 | mecworks_ | Actual skis and boards |
| 15:27.33 | Sargun | mecworksÂ: sundance is a movie festival, not snow fun.... |
| 15:27.46 | mecworks_ | sjansen: I should have actually organized something. |
| 15:28.05 | mecworks_ | I'll be taking my GPS with me at geoagging any photos I take. |
| 15:28.10 | Sargun | i was pretty sure sundance was in the summer. |
| 15:28.37 | Sargun | how do you reset your screen in irssi? |
| 15:28.45 | tensai | Sargun: sundance is a place. they used to have a movie festival there (it's been moved to park city). |
| 15:28.50 | Sargun | rerender evedrything. |
| 15:33.00 | Sargun | gah, mlk day messes everything up. |
| 15:33.39 | Sargun | can everybody go to work today? |
| 15:35.00 | linuxalien | I have work off |
| 15:35.11 | Sargun | still go |
| 15:35.27 | Sargun | or work under the mechanical turk's wraith |
| 15:35.29 | linuxalien | I'm not going if they give it to me off :P |
| 15:35.33 | linuxalien | haha |
| 15:35.59 | Sargun | dont you need cash... |
| 15:36.04 | Sargun | or work out |
| 15:36.10 | Sargun | do you have a bike |
| 15:36.51 | linuxalien | I'm not riding a bike in the snow |
| 15:36.53 | linuxalien | haha |
| 15:36.58 | Sargun | go bike somewhere |
| 15:37.01 | Sargun | why not |
| 15:37.25 | linuxalien | Don't feel like freezing |
| 15:37.41 | Sargun | other than the whole 'it is terrible idea? thing... |
| 15:38.55 | linuxalien | hehe I gotta do homework anyhow |
| 15:39.10 | Sargun | which classes |
| 15:39.29 | linuxalien | management 3010 and marketing 3010 |
| 15:39.41 | Sargun | heh. ouch. |
| 15:39.55 | linuxalien | Yeah, it's crazy stuff |
| 15:40.09 | linuxalien | My books are both online ebooks so that's good |
| 15:40.33 | Sargun | so are you going to be one of the stupid managers that drive everyone crazy in the future? |
| 15:40.53 | linuxalien | Nope. I'm a telecom major and they make me take that stuff |
| 15:41.01 | linuxalien | I'm going to be a network weenie |
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| 15:41.08 | Sargun | yay. |
| 15:41.30 | Sargun | what telecom related stuff have you taken? |
| 15:42.02 | Sargun | so pots, voip, and IP? |
| 15:42.06 | linuxalien | PBX stuff which I've completely forgotten, Cisco CCNA stuff, and how to make a network cable...oh and some history of telecom |
| 15:42.15 | linuxalien | Not a lot so far |
| 15:42.35 | linuxalien | I need to refresh cuz I stopped going to school and worked regular help desk for Flying J Communications for a bit hehe |
| 15:43.09 | Sargun | OG. |
| 15:43.50 | linuxalien | They're very conservative with their pay. Benefits are ok unless you have a family. |
| 15:44.01 | Sargun | so jsmithand asterisk is putting you out of business |
| 15:44.17 | linuxalien | I hope so. FJ bites. ;) |
| 15:44.49 | Sargun | lol |
| 15:45.17 | Sargun | have you dealt with sip much |
| 15:45.37 | Sargun | what about layer 3 stuff? |
| 15:45.54 | Sargun | dynamic routing? |
| 15:46.23 | Sargun | or are yhou more a hard core phone guy? |
| 15:46.41 | linuxalien | Nope |
| 15:46.51 | linuxalien | I've only taken classes |
| 15:47.00 | linuxalien | I've mainly done helpdesk |
| 15:47.11 | Sargun | well have you taken classes o n that stuff |
| 15:47.15 | linuxalien | And Flying J has proprietary crap that doesn't really apply elsewhere |
| 15:47.29 | linuxalien | Especially since they build their own kiosks |
| 15:48.13 | Sargun | yeah |
| 15:48.43 | Sargun | yhou should write your o |
| 15:49.00 | Sargun | you should create your own telepnhone switch |
| 15:49.10 | linuxalien | I should buck up and get my CCNA. I've got an MCSE in NT 4. |
| 15:49.27 | linuxalien | I am short on money right now. Bills. |
| 15:49.52 | Sargun | get a job at a tier 1? |
| 15:51.03 | Sargun | apply to xmission |
| 15:51.06 | linuxalien | Yeah, that would be cool. I gotta study though |
| 15:51.10 | linuxalien | Xmission is cool |
| 15:51.14 | linuxalien | I have them for DSL |
| 15:51.44 | Sargun | part time it. |
| 15:51.59 | linuxalien | Where are their offices? |
| 15:52.13 | Sargun | how difficult would it be to create a device that can do ss7? |
| 15:52.25 | linuxalien | Probably not hard. |
| 15:53.06 | Sargun | what kinda hardware |
| 15:53.24 | linuxalien | I just remembered, I need to email my advisor :P |
| 15:53.32 | linuxalien | Not sure |
| 15:54.03 | linuxalien | I've heard of SS7 but I'm rusty on that. I gotta buy a Telecom book too. I sold mine for money :) |
| 15:54.18 | Tene | There are four girls and only one guy in this class. Very unusual. |
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| 15:54.50 | Sargun | tene which class |
| 15:55.00 | Tene | Sargun: RH300 |
| 15:55.22 | Sargun | oh |
| 15:55.25 | Sargun | oh |
| 15:55.53 | Sargun | ancient uncute women though |
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| 15:58.11 | Sargun | la: so instead of learning how did you waste your time |
| 15:58.16 | Sargun | sports? |
| 15:58.20 | Sargun | women' |
| 15:58.37 | Sargun | harassing mheath' |
| 15:59.40 | linuxalien | time for breakfast. Meesa hungry! :P |
| 16:00.48 | Sargun | me wonders what out of shape broke guys have going for thnem |
| 16:01.50 | Sargun | who study telecom but dont know what ss7 is |
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| 16:15.01 | Sargun | he |
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| 16:15.21 | ibot | gives fozzmoo a stern handshake and a pat on the back. and then kisses him. |
| 16:16.15 | fozzmoo | jsmith: ping |
| 16:16.33 | jsmith | fozzmoo: pong |
| 16:16.40 | fozzmoo | wheee! |
| 16:18.01 | Sargun | gah |
| 16:18.09 | Sargun | how do I get screen to winch? |
| 16:18.58 | tensai | did it get stuck in the mud? |
| 16:20.21 | Sargun | ok, finally |
| 16:20.34 | Sargun | That was annoying :-X |
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| 16:32.08 | Sargun | dmdavis: 'ello. |
| 16:32.15 | dmdavis | Sargun: hi |
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| 16:36.31 | fozzmoo | I hate it when I get a seed shell fragment under my CTRL key. |
| 16:36.59 | xbmodder_ | renocs? |
| 16:40.04 | Sargun | dmdavis: you do gentoo? |
| 16:40.45 | dmdavis | Sargun: yep |
| 16:40.55 | xbmodder_ | dmdavis, developer? |
| 16:41.24 | dmdavis | xbmodder_: I am a developer, not a gentoo developer. though, I do develop a program that runs on a Gentoo livecd |
| 16:41.47 | xbmodder_ | which is? |
| 16:42.23 | dmdavis | xbmodder_: WipeDrive. A program we write to overwrite harddrives, and we put it on a custom liveCD |
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| 16:42.37 | xbmodder_ | oh, neat. |
| 16:43.21 | dmdavis | it's nice, because Gentoo supports different architectures, so our software can too |
| 16:43.25 | dmdavis | like sparc and ppc |
| 16:43.26 | xbmodder_ | so it does a DoD wipe? |
| 16:43.33 | xbmodder_ | what's it written in? |
| 16:43.34 | dmdavis | yeah, as well as other standards |
| 16:43.37 | dmdavis | c++ |
| 16:43.45 | xbmodder_ | ah |
| 16:44.03 | dmdavis | right now I'm working on getting our ppc version working |
| 16:44.18 | dmdavis | trying to get a ppc emulator running on my x86, so I don't have to burn cds :) |
| 16:44.41 | dmdavis | can't get the emulators to boot the CDs, even the a physical Mac does boot 'em |
| 16:46.14 | xbmodder_ | heh |
| 16:46.35 | xbmodder_ | what happens? |
| 16:46.45 | dmdavis | says it can't find a bootable partition |
| 16:47.35 | dmdavis | not sure if it's not finding the iso correctly, or if the iso is malformed |
| 16:48.16 | Sargun | stracE? |
| 16:48.25 | Sargun | :-P |
| 16:48.37 | dmdavis | :) yeah, I'll try that |
| 16:49.31 | dmdavis | wow. qemu keeps running after the boot fails, and so strace never stops flooding my terminal with text |
| 16:50.29 | xbmodder_ | ah |
| 16:50.45 | dmdavis | but, I stopped it in time to find the relevant data by scrolling back |
| 16:51.55 | dmdavis | so, it looks like it's opening the iso at least |
| 16:53.14 | xbmodder_ | badly formed ISO? |
| 16:53.30 | dmdavis | shouldn't be, because when I burn it, it boots on my G4 |
| 16:59.33 | xbmodder_ | weird. |
| 16:59.47 | xbmodder_ | developing for Macs must suck |
| 17:00.26 | dmdavis | it's not too bad once I have the livecd working, because it's just gentoo. it's just getting the livecd working that's aggravating me right now |
| 17:03.49 | dmdavis | ah, got it working. looks like I wasn't configuring pearpc correctly |
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| 17:11.52 | levi | So freakin' snowy. |
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| 17:26.51 | findlay | ~snow |
| 17:26.51 | ibot | it has been said that snow is cold, or white, or comes down in flakes, or cocaine |
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| 17:34.33 | jbellis | what am I missing here? svn runs behind apache. apache runs as user wwwrun, uid 30. echo $EUID > /tmp/euid in the post-commit hook confirms uid 30. but I can't seem to test my post-commit script as wwwrun outside of the svn environment; su wwwrun -c "echo 1" does nothing. no error, just nothing. |
| 17:34.55 | jbellis | [this is on suse] |
| 17:39.14 | jbellis | grr |
| 17:39.18 | jbellis | /bin/false in /etc/passwd |
| 17:39.29 | jbellis | i could have sworn that didn't prevent su -c, but it does. |
| 17:39.32 | jbellis | i'm such a newbie :( |
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| 17:41.00 | herlo | jbellis: if you don't have mod_svn, you'll need it |
| 17:41.25 | herlo | jbellis: I'm going to grab an example of one of mine to help you |
| 17:41.28 | jbellis | herlo: it's a working install someone else set up, i'm just trying to add to post-commit |
| 17:41.36 | jbellis | i think i'm in good shape now tx |
| 17:41.50 | herlo | oh, okay |
| 17:41.56 | herlo | what was wrong? |
| 17:42.29 | jbellis | my post-commit hook was using pysvn, and the svn repo is behind https |
| 17:42.43 | jbellis | so it turns out i just needed to su to the user and accept the certificate |
| 17:42.44 | herlo | I've never used pysvn |
| 17:42.55 | jbellis | but it was hard to tell what the problem was w/ the damn bin/false there :) |
| 17:42.58 | herlo | maybe I'll look into it |
| 17:42.59 | jbellis | i like pysvn |
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| 17:43.15 | jbellis | it's the only part of this project that hasn't made me curse multiple times :0 |
| 17:43.31 | herlo | /bin/false was in the shell? |
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| 17:43.49 | herlo | er was the shell |
| 17:43.53 | jbellis | yes |
| 17:43.55 | jbellis | for wwwrun |
| 17:43.58 | jbellis | which makes sense |
| 17:44.01 | jsmith | herlo: /bin/false is a great shell! |
| 17:44.14 | jsmith | herlo: Effectively the same as /bin/nologin |
| 17:44.15 | herlo | it makes sense though as wwwrun is usualy a system user |
| 17:44.19 | herlo | jsmith: I know |
| 17:45.05 | herlo | I guess su - would still work |
| 17:47.07 | jbellis | nope |
| 17:47.14 | jbellis | i just changed it to bin/sh temporarily |
| 17:47.18 | Jayce^ | still login bound herlo |
| 17:47.27 | Kemotaha | you need to run -s /bin/sh |
| 17:47.33 | herlo | yeah, okay |
| 17:47.34 | Jayce^ | correct |
| 17:47.45 | herlo | that clears up a bunch of concerns I had |
| 17:47.55 | jbellis | oh sweet |
| 17:47.56 | Jayce^ | Kemotaha, gee, you seem to have had that problem before.. now where would it be.. oh yeah... HERE |
| 17:47.59 | jbellis | i didn't know about -s |
| 17:48.04 | Tene | sudo -u username /bin/bash |
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| 17:48.36 | Shadowwire | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/drm_in_windows_1.html |
| 17:48.41 | elg | sigh. do I answer boring emails, clean out my downloads folder, or burn a dvd to clear up some disk space first? |
| 17:48.45 | herlo | Tene: always here with valuable tips |
| 17:49.08 | dmdavis | elg: You could answer my question first. :) |
| 17:49.08 | Shadowwire | Answer the boring e-mails. |
| 17:49.19 | Shadowwire | Boring... |
| 17:49.29 | Kemotaha | Jayce^: it is always usefull especially in block a mail user or a web user too, that you don't want to login |
| 17:49.48 | dmdavis | elg: I'm applying to grad school, a professor contacted me about having a conference call about doing research with him. What should I ask him, or do to prepare? |
| 17:50.10 | Kemotaha | dmdavis: which grad school? |
| 17:50.16 | Jayce^ | Kemotaha, just saying that the boxes here have given me that problem a ot |
| 17:50.18 | Jayce^ | lot |
| 17:50.19 | dmdavis | Kemotaha: Virginia Tech |
| 17:50.30 | Kemotaha | Jayce^: I know |
| 17:50.44 | Kemotaha | dmdavis: have you been accepted? |
| 17:50.49 | elg | what prof? |
| 17:50.57 | elg | well, not a name, but what's his research area |
| 17:51.08 | elg | has he mentioned what kind of research he's doing? |
| 17:51.14 | elg | do you have any particular kind of research in mind? |
| 17:51.16 | dmdavis | Kemotaha: no, I just barely finished my apps. He said he saw my app, so he was contacting me |
| 17:51.25 | dmdavis | elg: high performance computing |
| 17:51.46 | Kemotaha | If he thinks you will research with him, he can help push your application through the process faster |
| 17:51.48 | dmdavis | elg: which is one of the areas I thought I might be interested in, though it's hard to know till I've tried it :) |
| 17:51.57 | elg | sure |
| 17:52.02 | dmdavis | Kemotaha: right, which is why I want to play my cards right |
| 17:52.26 | Kemotaha | I would make sure you know a little about it, but you don't need to know all that much |
| 17:52.31 | elg | well, to make a good impression, show basic (at least) knowledge on the subject |
| 17:52.39 | elg | a few buzzwords |
| 17:52.44 | Kemotaha | A Master's is so that you master the subject that you have chosen |
| 17:52.55 | Kemotaha | you don't have to know it beforehand |
| 17:53.09 | elg | what's important for doing good research, e.g. a few well-thought questions about the hardware they have available for HPC |
| 17:53.14 | dmdavis | I've scanned a few of their publications, so I at least know some basics |
| 17:53.22 | elg | but yeah, you don't have to be an expert already, that's the idea after all :) |
| 17:53.38 | elg | if you can ask a specific question about one of his recent articles |
| 17:53.46 | dmdavis | OK |
| 17:53.57 | elg | that will stroke the ego and show you did some looking into it |
| 17:54.08 | dmdavis | now, from my perspective, what should I be looking for? |
| 17:54.26 | elg | as for your part, find out what kind of funding they have, how long they'd be able to support you, if you'd be able to author or coauthor some papers in that lab |
| 17:54.55 | dmdavis | OK, thanks |
| 17:54.56 | elg | and whether you'd be the copy machine gopher or play a real part. ;-) |
| 17:55.02 | dmdavis | :) |
| 17:55.06 | elg | you only have to worry about that last one at really big schools though |
| 17:55.16 | levi | Grr, my stupid vmware clock is off again. |
| 17:56.03 | dmdavis | elg: are these the kind of questions I can ask bluntly, or would that be considered tacky? |
| 17:56.06 | Kemotaha | levi, that's a known issue |
| 17:56.45 | elg | well, ask them tactfully but you can just ask them |
| 17:56.54 | dmdavis | OK |
| 17:56.57 | elg | same as you'd discuss salary or benefits with a potential employer |
| 17:57.03 | dmdavis | right |
| 17:57.33 | elg | you might skip the gopher question and read between the lines on the answer to the publication stuff |
| 17:57.37 | dmdavis | elg: cool, thanks for the advice |
| 17:57.37 | Kemotaha | dmdavis: like this: What sort of experiements will I be doing? Is most of the research done? |
| 17:58.25 | dmdavis | Kemotaha: OK, thanks |
| 17:58.27 | Kemotaha | dmdavis: Am I extending a finished research project or is this a new one? |
| 17:58.35 | Kemotaha | etc. |
| 17:58.48 | elg | experiments might be the wrong word |
| 17:59.05 | elg | though there may be some experimentation in HPC, I'm not sure. most CS isn't experimental though |
| 17:59.10 | Kemotaha | we use it in my grad program |
| 17:59.19 | Kemotaha | but I am in IT rather than CS |
| 18:00.04 | unum | Kemotaha: where did you get your it degree from? |
| 18:00.12 | elg | dmdavis: ask how big the lab is. lots of masters students? phd students? postdocs? or a small lab (or no lab - just you and he) |
| 18:00.27 | elg | there's pros and cons to both |
| 18:00.28 | Kemotaha | BYU, I am still working on my thesis |
| 18:00.45 | elg | in a big lab, you have lots of other smart people working on the same problem with you |
| 18:01.20 | elg | in a small lab or just you on the project, you have more control over what you do and more glory in the end too |
| 18:01.32 | elg | of course it also influences the scope of whatever project is being taken on |
| 18:02.52 | dmdavis | excellent, thanks |
| 18:02.53 | elg | i've seen masters students come in, do a fragment of an overall large project, write a little thesis, and be done |
| 18:02.58 | elg | if you just want the paper, that's fine |
| 18:03.14 | dmdavis | I want to know if I like research enough to go on to become a professor |
| 18:03.26 | elg | but if you want the more independent thinking research skills (e.g. if you plan to go on to phd) |
| 18:03.30 | elg | or that |
| 18:03.46 | elg | then you want to have a more autonomous situation (though it doesn't have to be entirely just your project) |
| 18:04.01 | elg | still, in the end it matters more your attitude and approach than your situation |
| 18:05.25 | dmdavis | so maybe I should ask how well he can compensate for my having a bad attitude? |
| 18:05.29 | dmdavis | :) |
| 18:05.50 | elg | heh |
| 18:06.09 | elg | well there's lazy bum and then there's i-want-a-diploma-mill |
| 18:06.20 | elg | most of the good students are lazy bums. |
| 18:06.28 | dmdavis | :) good to know |
| 18:06.35 | elg | overcoming that is part of the journey (of life, too) |
| 18:06.55 | Kemotaha | elg: makes me feel better |
| 18:06.58 | elg | the diploma mill students are generally more "motivated", but just to get that paper and get out of there |
| 18:07.09 | xbmodder_ | Kemotaha, sure you are... :-P |
| 18:07.11 | elg | Kemotaha: me too. I might just be lying to make myself feel better though :) |
| 18:07.47 | Shadowwire | "Diploma mill" I like that. |
| 18:09.15 | unum | Kemotaha: which college is it under? |
| 18:09.20 | unum | s/it/IT |
| 18:09.57 | unum | I think computer science should be software engineering |
| 18:10.01 | unum | it seems like a better fit |
| 18:10.21 | elg | that depends on what you think computer science is |
| 18:10.23 | dmdavis | I think those are two different things |
| 18:10.24 | elg | some schools have both |
| 18:10.31 | sontek | I think software developers should be trained like doctors, 8yrs of school, and then you still have to intern and earn your residency! |
| 18:10.40 | unum | USU only has cs |
| 18:10.51 | unum | so if you are going to be a programmer or an it guy you take cs |
| 18:11.04 | unum | which requires a year of biology |
| 18:11.32 | unum | why do I need biology in order to run a linux server? |
| 18:11.45 | Kemotaha | unum: It is under the college of engineering and technology, under the school of technology |
| 18:11.54 | dmdavis | unum: So you know why not to anthropomorphize your server |
| 18:12.14 | unum | our last president killed our school of technology |
| 18:12.19 | unum | sent all the students off to weber |
| 18:12.22 | Kemotaha | unum: because computers will be oraganic it a few years |
| 18:12.44 | Shadowwire | Sweet. |
| 18:13.11 | Kemotaha | Need a few more gigabytes, water the plant and feed a leaf to the computer :) |
| 18:14.52 | Kemotaha | why do you always do that jsmith-lunch ? |
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| 18:15.16 | jsmith-lunch | Kemotaha: To make you hungry! |
| 18:15.22 | Kemotaha | curse you |
| 18:15.30 | jsmith-lunch | Kemotaha: (Really, it's to let my co-workers know where I am) |
| 18:15.41 | levi | I keep forgetting that restarting vmware-tools kills the network driver. :/ |
| 18:19.01 | Shadowwire | http://catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html#msoft |
| 18:20.29 | jsmith | Kemotaha: And I'm back ;-) (change of lunch plans) |
| 18:20.54 | Kemotaha | great now youare going to make me hungry again in 30 minutes |
| 18:25.36 | jsmith | Kemotaha: No, I'm eating lunch and working at the same time |
| 18:25.49 | jsmith | Kemotaha: I was gonna go out, but now I'm not |
| 18:27.26 | herlo | food! |
| 18:29.07 | sjansen | pizza! |
| 18:30.16 | sontek | I made a turkey sandwhich and a salad for lunch :( |
| 18:30.24 | sontek | eating healthy is overrated |
| 18:30.26 | sontek | I want a burger |
| 18:30.34 | sontek | and some pizza |
| 18:30.37 | sontek | a pizza burger! |
| 18:30.41 | Shadowwire | I like pizza steve. |
| 18:30.52 | sontek | she touched my peppy steve |
| 18:31.18 | Shadowwire | ya! |
| 18:33.39 | synic | sounds like marie calendars |
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| 18:37.59 | jsmith | synic: You, my friend, are correct! |
| 18:38.01 | jsmith | ~reward synic |
| 18:38.02 | ibot | ACTION gives synic a brownie point. And a *kick* in the pants! |
| 18:38.29 | tensai | jsmith: was it all mixed together or separate. the latter sounds a little nasty. |
| 18:38.53 | jsmith | tensai: It's all mixed together in my stomach now ;-) |
| 18:49.26 | synic | jsmith: love those. Hah. |
| 18:51.45 | Supaplex | jsmith: you didn't upgrade to the multistomach? you could have each portion in its own stomach. |
| 18:52.14 | Shadowwire | How does that work? |
| 18:52.16 | sontek | like a cow? |
| 18:52.18 | jsmith | Supaplex: Naw, I've had enough internal surgery this year to last me a while... |
| 18:52.29 | Supaplex | yeah there all doin it |
| 18:52.30 | Shadowwire | no a cow is in-line |
| 18:53.32 | jsmith | Parallel stomachs! |
| 18:54.35 | sjansen | Just think how much more efficient you could be eating! |
| 18:54.57 | sjansen | Imagine a beowulf cluster of parallel stomaches! |
| 18:56.59 | Supaplex | jsmith: see, sjansen agrees :) |
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| 18:58.40 | Shadowwire | a beowulf cluster? |
| 19:02.00 | Shadowwire | It's not that most people are stupid — quite the opposite. The smarter people are, the busier they tend to be. Typical doctors, bankers, lawyers, or schoolteachers don't care about operating systems because they are smart people who have other things to do. We geeks could change our car's oil, fix our own plumbing, do our own taxes, and administer our own systems — but we're busy, we generally just want whatever it is to work and stop d |
| 19:06.44 | jbellis | is there an easy way to "clear out my env" in bash? |
| 19:07.19 | RedHeron | Reformat? |
| 19:08.01 | Supaplex | env (1) - run a program in a modified environment |
| 19:08.37 | Shadowwire | in other words, no. |
| 19:08.57 | dataw0lf | uh, yes. |
| 19:09.24 | dataw0lf | env -i k=v command (or -) |
| 19:09.36 | Supaplex | or unset |
| 19:09.45 | dataw0lf | -i will ignore all environment variables; k=v will be explicit environ vars |
| 19:09.59 | dataw0lf | why would you unset your current environment when you instantiate a new one? |
| 19:10.03 | dataw0lf | you can* |
| 19:11.35 | Jayce^ | "detergent on the understanding?" |
| 19:12.34 | Shadowwire | ~lart someone else |
| 19:12.34 | ibot | beats someone else into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
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| 19:48.07 | Supaplex | Shadowwire: i can has cheeseburger? yumyum! |
| 19:54.56 | Shadowwire | If your trying to confuse me... Um... What were we talking about? |
| 19:55.37 | findlay | ~confuse Shadowwire |
| 19:55.38 | ibot | yes where are your gouda tomorrow ? |
| 19:55.59 | findlay | ~lolcode |
| 19:56.08 | findlay | ~lolcats |
| 19:56.08 | ibot | somebody said lolcats was http://icanhascheezburger.com/?random |
| 19:56.36 | findlay | ibot: lolcode is at lolcode.com |
| 19:56.37 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 19:57.57 | sjansen | ~lolcode |
| 19:57.58 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, lolcode is at lolcode.com |
| 19:58.22 | findlay | ~lolsjansen |
| 19:58.33 | sjansen | ibot: no, lolcode is http://lolcode.com/ |
| 19:58.34 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 19:59.39 | Jayce^ | sjansen, been playing with lolcode on parrot? |
| 20:06.45 | sjansen | Jayce^: Not just lolcode. Just submitted my first patch for the Parrot Compiter Tools. :-) |
| 20:07.14 | Jayce^ | oh yeah? |
| 20:07.48 | sjansen | Nothing ground shaking, but still a sign that my understanding of Parrot is improving. |
| 20:08.08 | sjansen | http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=50074 |
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| 20:19.57 | Supaplex | errroawwt! |
| 20:20.19 | xbmodder_ | o.O? |
| 20:21.37 | Supaplex | polly want a p6 |
| 20:21.50 | Jayce^ | make perl6 |
| 20:22.00 | Supaplex | i know :) |
| 20:22.23 | Supaplex | who's the guy with the perl6 vanity plates, huh? :> |
| 20:22.36 | xbmodder_ | heh |
| 20:22.48 | Jayce^ | yeah, I made the mistake of telling neybar I was going to get Perl, because it was available.. |
| 20:22.51 | findlay | xbmodder_ |
| 20:22.53 | Jayce^ | then he bought a car before me :) |
| 20:23.20 | Supaplex | lol |
| 20:23.30 | Supaplex | vanity plates are like hot available domain names. |
| 20:23.36 | Jayce^ | So I got MODPERL on my next vehicle |
| 20:24.01 | Supaplex | oh yeah. |
| 20:25.03 | Jayce^ | I almost got regex when I go my pontiac, but never wound up doing it |
| 20:25.42 | xbmodder_ | python |
| 20:25.48 | xbmodder_ | PyPy |
| 20:26.17 | Supaplex | vr00m.py |
| 20:27.18 | sontek | I have 'sontek' for mine :[ |
| 20:27.25 | Jayce^ | who's sontek? |
| 20:27.26 | xbmodder_ | he |
| 20:27.26 | xbmodder_ | heh |
| 20:27.32 | xbmodder_ | NoOne cares |
| 20:27.33 | Jayce^ | or "what's a sontek_" |
| 20:27.35 | Jayce^ | :-p |
| 20:28.48 | sontek | a sontek is ketnos spelled backwards |
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| 20:32.05 | ibot | tickles tuple with a rose bush |
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| 21:17.28 | goozbach | sjansen: so you're re-writing xiphias in parrot? |
| 21:18.02 | goozbach | I just got my "gooz" plates |
| 21:18.04 | sjansen | Of course. |
| 21:19.43 | jsmith | sjansen: You gonna open-source it? |
| 21:19.58 | tensai | I've got a gps which claims to be at 688,000 meters, S 162 degrees and E 443 degrees |
| 21:20.19 | tensai | it also claims to be tracking 224 sattelites |
| 21:20.26 | tensai | I'm thinking it's a little confused |
| 21:21.22 | tensai | s/sattelites/satellites/ |
| 21:21.49 | jsmith | tensai: Wow... that's awesome! |
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| 21:25.11 | sjansen | jsmith: I was (mostly) kidding about re-writing Xiphias. |
| 21:31.37 | tensai | jsmith: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-18,83&spn=3.635581,4.136353&t=h&z=8&om=0 |
| 21:31.44 | tensai | it's in the middle of the indian ocean |
| 21:32.04 | Jayce^ | tensai, what are you doing out there? |
| 21:32.14 | tensai | seems to be a perfectly nice stretch of ocean though |
| 21:32.48 | tensai | Jayce^: it's not me. it's a wireless tower we built. apparently we're offering internet services to fish. |
| 21:33.04 | Jayce^ | man, you guys really want to compete on the coverage map 'eh? :) |
| 21:33.16 | tensai | and people en-route from australia to madagascar |
| 21:33.35 | Jayce^ | doing long-haul to the maldives? |
| 21:34.18 | tensai | fish don't need bicycles, but you can't deny them access to information. and pr0n. |
| 21:35.52 | elg | prawn you mean? |
| 21:36.15 | tensai | Jayce^: I found another failing of tucows platypus. man, I sure wish there was an open source billing system designed for ISPs. |
| 21:36.17 | tensai | elg: heh |
| 21:37.02 | *** topic/#utah by tensai -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | fozzmoo!!! | we got all the prawn you need |
| 21:37.19 | Jayce^ | tensai, :) so do something about it |
| 21:40.45 | Jayce^ | still never got a feature list from you :) |
| 21:41.10 | tensai | Jayce^: that's weird. I distinctly remember not writing it. |
| 21:41.39 | Tene | Jayce^: somehow, complaining is a lot easier than contributing. Send me a patch for that bug, and I'll get started on contributing right away. |
| 21:42.22 | fozzmoo | sjansen: I think I saw that cowboy movie. |
| 21:42.24 | Jayce^ | tensai, strange.. |
| 21:42.26 | fozzmoo | "Fistful of Meds" |
| 21:42.46 | tensai | Jayce^: I've had it sitting on my drive meaning to give it a test drive for a while |
| 21:43.26 | Jayce^ | tensai, just remember, all your deps should be accessible in debian, though might add a repo.. |
| 21:43.51 | findlay | -movietitle |
| 21:45.24 | Supaplex | tensai: www.sisd.com |
| 21:45.42 | tensai | Jayce^: I'm trying it now. so far so good. just about done with the deps. |
| 21:46.40 | Jayce^ | ~lart Supaplex that's sooo old.. |
| 21:46.40 | ibot | farts in Supaplex that's sooo old..'s general direction |
| 21:46.47 | Jayce^ | freeside.biz now |
| 21:46.56 | Supaplex | but i'm old skewl! |
| 21:51.46 | findlay | ~lart levi for having no principles ;-) |
| 21:51.46 | ibot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses levi's head to break the homerun record for having no principles ;-) |
| 21:56.53 | Tene | sjansen: if you have meds that do that job effectively, I'd be glad to take 'em. |
| 22:06.30 | tensai | Jayce^: one question on this install. "Ensure Apache has mod_perl enabled and is set to run as User freeside." How do I do that? |
| 22:10.30 | Jayce^ | in your apache conf, instead of a www/nobody type user, needs to be freeside |
| 22:13.38 | sjansen | Jayce^: What is Apache? |
| 22:13.54 | Jayce^ | sjansen, dunno, I'm just playing with tensai .. |
| 22:14.39 | sjansen | Does Freeside work with IIS? |
| 22:14.40 | tensai | Jayce^: oh, so Apache needs to run as freeside. I read that as mod_perl has to run as freeside. |
| 22:15.00 | Jayce^ | tensai, well, it does :) mod_perl *is* apache when you are using it :) |
| 22:15.14 | sjansen | Well... because mod_perl run inside the Apache process, it's the same thing really. |
| 22:16.30 | sjansen | Patience, patience. I still have much to learn before I feel worthy to introduce buffer overflows into the One Apache Module to rule them all. |
| 22:17.10 | findlay | don't parrots go with pirates, not Apache's? |
| 22:18.22 | Supaplex | pirates are apache if they're using more than one eye patch |
| 22:19.00 | findlay | ah |
| 22:23.44 | tensai | Jayce^: yeah ok. that makes sense. |
| 22:31.25 | levi | This looks pretty cool: http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/s3/ |
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| 22:40.17 | findlay | levi: you going? :) |
| 22:45.14 | levi | findlay: Almost certainly not. :) |
| 22:54.03 | tensai | Jayce^: why am I just getting a bunch of unexecuted perl code in my browser? |
| 22:54.15 | Jayce^ | did you set up the mason handler? |
| 22:57.24 | tensai | Jayce^: doesn't ring a bell. I just did what the freeside install doc said. |
| 22:57.33 | tensai | http://www.freeside.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Freeside:1.7:Documentation:Installation |
| 22:58.19 | Jayce^ | Edit the Makefile and set APACHE_CONF to the location of an Apache include directory (not a file). (If your Apache doesn't have an existing include directory, create one and add a line such as "Include /etc/apache/conf.d" to httpd.conf.) |
| 22:58.27 | Jayce^ | you sure it's including that? |
| 22:58.34 | Jayce^ | and you did the install-apache |
| 22:59.26 | tensai | Jayce^: ok, I see. I did that step but didn't change the dir to /etc/apache2/conf.d |
| 23:04.35 | tensai | Jayce^: much better. now it's complaining about version mismatches |
| 23:04.43 | Jayce^ | version? |
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| 23:24.57 | elg | better than a stupid ego |
| 23:31.52 | levi | I'm a freedom-flusher! |
| 23:32.03 | Supaplex | >.> |
| 23:33.25 | Supaplex | jiggles* ? *meh* |
| 23:33.28 | RedHeron | giggles = laughs |
| 23:33.35 | RedHeron | jiggles = shakes |
| 23:33.48 | RedHeron | So, yes, jiggles. |
| 23:33.56 | RedHeron | Unless the handle was funny. |
| 23:34.24 | fozzmoo | levi: I love you, man. |
| 23:34.55 | levi | fozzmoo: Uh, thanks, I guess. ;) |
| 23:35.39 | Supaplex | thought so. :) |
| 23:50.43 | tensai | that's really odd. through my headphones I can hear my battery-operated wall clock clicking |
| 23:52.03 | tensai | headphones are plugged into my laptop, which is plugged into the outlet on the same wall the clock is hung from |
| 23:52.07 | tensai | still doesn't make any sense |
| 23:53.12 | fozzmoo | tensai: Is your laptop microphone on? :) |
| 23:54.36 | tensai | fozzmoo: nice try, but no mic |
| 23:55.28 | tensai | when I unplug the AC adapter, it still clicks |
| 23:56.27 | Supaplex | it'll stop clicking if it suddenly goes bewm |
| 23:57.28 | tensai | well, it's not the clock. I removed the battery and still my laptop is clicking. |
| 23:57.48 | tensai | it just have just coincidentally been syncronized to my laptop |
| 23:57.57 | tensai | s/it just/it must/ |