| 00:00.22 | mrpull | rats. I'm no help. |
| 00:00.25 | vontrapp | like i said, it's maching ^ or - |
| 00:00.32 | vontrapp | not just the dash, but the ^ as well |
| 00:00.56 | vontrapp | and nothing else, btw |
| 00:01.13 | vontrapp | so it's basically having the opposite effect it should have |
| 00:01.34 | vontrapp | oh, and looks like the script is using sh, not bash |
| 00:01.54 | vontrapp | ok, bash does it right, it's just sh that's braindead |
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| 00:27.14 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
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| 00:50.05 | Heartsbane | herlo: we got LOM |
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| 01:04.25 | herlo | LOM? NIce! |
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| 01:09.18 | sargun_n810 | Hey |
| 01:09.20 | findlay | ~lart sargun_n810 |
| 01:09.20 | ibot | tries to shut sargun_n810 up |
| 01:09.52 | sargun_n810 | Anyone else enjoy the song the warning by nine inch mails |
| 01:09.55 | sargun_n810 | Nails |
| 01:10.45 | Lakshmi | sargun_n810 hi |
| 01:10.53 | sargun_n810 | I find it so sexy that my device's backlight smoothly changes |
| 01:11.01 | sargun_n810 | Hey lakshmi |
| 01:11.07 | sargun_n810 | Pm me |
| 01:11.18 | findlay | ~pm sargun_n810 |
| 01:11.26 | sargun_n810 | Nananananananan |
| 01:11.59 | linuxalien | sargun_n810, I like NIN but haven't heard warning... I only have the album "With Teeth" though |
| 01:15.20 | sargun_n810 | Linuxalien buy more |
| 01:15.41 | sargun_n810 | Its like fifteen bucks an album |
| 01:15.47 | linuxalien | sargun_n810, yup, I do intend to. I've bought the videos for Hand that Feeds and Only on iTunes |
| 01:15.51 | linuxalien | Nice |
| 01:16.46 | sargun_n810 | Gah why are your colours changing |
| 01:17.09 | linuxalien | my colors? |
| 01:17.13 | linuxalien | I didn't change them |
| 01:17.16 | sargun_n810 | Stupid irc client |
| 01:17.23 | linuxalien | weird |
| 01:17.35 | linuxalien | I'm using Xchat aqua...none of that nancy mirc for me :P |
| 01:17.44 | sargun_n810 | Why iTunes |
| 01:17.45 | linuxalien | mirc does the colors I think |
| 01:17.47 | sargun_n810 | Ew |
| 01:17.56 | sargun_n810 | Im using pidgin |
| 01:17.59 | linuxalien | I owned an iBook and then a Macbook |
| 01:18.10 | Lakshmi | apples arent that bad |
| 01:18.24 | linuxalien | They do what I need for school |
| 01:18.38 | linuxalien | and I just installed Ubuntu in iEmulator |
| 01:18.50 | linuxalien | so I can practice linux stuff and not have to reboot |
| 01:18.56 | Lakshmi | 'You've become virus |
| 01:18.56 | Lakshmi | That's eaten up this host' <-- NIN is too sciency |
| 01:19.14 | linuxalien | hehe i like science |
| 01:19.21 | linuxalien | My brother is a physics major |
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| 01:21.28 | linuxalien | I've got Starry Night installed on this Mac too |
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| 01:25.26 | linuxalien | Gotta find my dmg files for Celestia and Stellarium |
| 01:25.36 | sargun_n810 | Ugh os x |
| 01:26.34 | linuxalien | Hey, at least now leopard is unix 03 certified... but linux would be too if someone were willing to shell out money for the "fee" - but I think IBM has versions of linux that are certified. Not sure completely though |
| 01:26.43 | macnewbold | linuxalien: if you don't find them, you can always grab the Software For Starving Students CD - it has at least one of those two on it last I checked |
| 01:27.05 | sargun_n810 | Brb |
| 01:27.18 | linuxalien | Sweet, thanks macnewbold - I'll download that and see what software it has. I remember now I had bookmarked the url. |
| 01:27.30 | macnewbold | softwarefor.org |
| 01:27.34 | macnewbold | there's bittorrent if you want it fast |
| 01:27.41 | macnewbold | I'm quiet sure there are still some seeds out there |
| 01:27.46 | linuxalien | Thanks! |
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| 01:28.46 | Sargun | uh |
| 01:30.08 | Sargun | hey |
| 01:30.12 | linuxalien | hey |
| 01:30.16 | macnewbold | ~sargun linuxalien |
| 01:30.16 | ibot | go away Tene |
| 01:30.19 | macnewbold | doh |
| 01:30.41 | linuxalien | Was that supposed to be like a lart? |
| 01:30.51 | Sargun | haha |
| 01:30.57 | Sargun | ~sargun macnewbold |
| 01:30.58 | ibot | go away Tene |
| 01:31.00 | Sargun | haha |
| 01:31.11 | linuxalien | hehe |
| 01:32.09 | Tene | ibot: lakshmi linuxalien |
| 01:32.09 | ibot | ACTION maxes out linuxalien's nick with underscores_____ |
| 01:32.24 | linuxalien | hahah |
| 01:33.48 | Lakshmi | lols |
| 01:34.22 | linuxalien | CES is cool |
| 01:34.34 | linuxalien | I'm watching video podcasts about some highlights with Miro |
| 01:35.20 | herlo | linuxalien: I went a couple years ago, pretty cool |
| 01:35.48 | herlo | mostly gadget things, car stereos and home automation stuff. There was the AVN stuff too, which usually accompanies CES |
| 01:35.49 | linuxalien | I want to go to sometimes like that. All I can afford is maybe going to Defcon this year |
| 01:36.14 | herlo | linuxalien: you can get into CES for free if you write a few tech articles and apply early |
| 01:36.14 | linuxalien | Sweet. |
| 01:36.41 | linuxalien | wow nice |
| 01:39.24 | linuxalien | Too bad Defcon isn't free |
| 01:39.34 | linuxalien | I wouldn't even try Blackhat though....over my head |
| 01:42.58 | herlo | how about scale? |
| 01:43.30 | linuxalien | haha ok :) |
| 01:46.25 | herlo | http://socallinuxexpo.com :) |
| 01:47.02 | Sargun | LinuxWorld? |
| 01:47.20 | linuxalien | oh ok |
| 01:47.31 | Sargun | Why don't you do LinuxWorld |
| 01:48.06 | linuxalien | That would be quite fun |
| 01:50.56 | linuxalien | That looks very fun actually |
| 01:51.22 | Sargun | LinuxWorld? |
| 01:51.24 | Sargun | I've been there |
| 01:51.28 | Sargun | it isn't very |
| 01:51.37 | Sargun | Well depends |
| 01:51.50 | Sargun | I got a shirt there |
| 01:52.10 | linuxalien | Well, it'd be interesting. Who knows, I might meet some cool people. |
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| 01:55.16 | xbmodder_ | uh |
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| 02:08.14 | brac | echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a car parked on the stove is one of them being a new CLOCK |
| 02:09.29 | linuxalien | haha |
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| 02:24.45 | xbmodder__ | http://www.ioccc.org/1990/westley.c |
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| 02:41.51 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
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| 02:42.31 | Tene | hi fozz. what's you up to? |
| 02:42.36 | fozzmoo | Capturing video. |
| 02:44.23 | Sargun | hey *.*; |
| 02:44.35 | fozzmoo | Sargun: you suck. |
| 02:44.43 | Sargun | o.O? |
| 02:44.46 | fozzmoo | That's *so* DOS, |
| 02:44.50 | Sargun | haha |
| 02:44.53 | Tene | Sargun: nobody here has a . in their name. |
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| 02:45.37 | Sargun | hehehe. |
| 02:46.10 | Sargun | If you're going to send out spam |
| 02:46.17 | Sargun | at least spell it correctly: |
| 02:46.18 | Sargun | Back To School Bash - The Naughy School Girl Party @ THE X 18+ Friday! | RSVP Now 4 $5 entry! |
| 02:46.19 | Sargun | |
| 02:46.37 | Sargun | (its not spam, its a chunk of email that my friend gets) |
| 02:50.17 | linuxalien | hehehe |
| 02:52.08 | Supaplex | Sargun: cute .c source btw |
| 02:52.16 | Sargun | it is very |
| 02:52.21 | Sargun | not mine |
| 02:53.11 | Sargun | doesnt compile under GCC-3.4.6+ |
| 02:54.31 | Supaplex | pity |
| 02:54.46 | Sargun | do you have an older compiler? |
| 02:54.56 | Sargun | 2.95? |
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| 02:56.31 | Sargun | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "=sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r10" have been masked. |
| 02:56.31 | Sargun | !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: |
| 02:56.31 | Sargun | - sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r10 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) |
| 02:56.50 | Sargun | to merge or not to merge! |
| 02:57.39 | linuxalien | That's the only thing I hated about Gentoo. :) |
| 02:57.58 | Lakshmi | not |
| 02:58.02 | Lakshmi | to merge |
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| 03:00.59 | Sargun | email hates me. |
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| 03:03.58 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 03:04.06 | Sargun | grep |
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| 03:54.56 | Tene | levi: you know anything about Arc? |
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| 04:26.09 | Sargun | Hm. |
| 04:26.41 | Sargun | I wonder how many chefs have died on the job? |
| 04:27.41 | Sargun | or gotten into accidents |
| 04:27.51 | Sargun | or become injured. |
| 04:28.00 | Lakshmi | prolly many |
| 04:28.39 | Lakshmi | i mean its not fun unless you burn yourself at least once |
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| 05:27.25 | Supaplex | yay for google patent search. |
| 05:28.23 | Sargun | ? |
| 05:31.36 | Lakshmi | hi sargun |
| 05:32.56 | Sargun | hi |
| 05:47.27 | findlay | ~hi Sargun |
| 05:47.28 | ibot | Many greetings, Sargun, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 05:55.43 | Tene | Power out in Orem. |
| 05:57.05 | findlay | ~power |
| 05:57.06 | ibot | [power] for newer opie releases you need to have apmd installed to have a working power button. or see external power, or the derivative of energy with respect to time |
| 06:08.38 | Tene | findlay: up for some arson or burglary during the power outage? |
| 06:09.04 | Tene | That's the best time for it... |
| 06:15.24 | findlay | yeah, lets light some garbage cans on fire! |
| 06:16.41 | Tene | vandalism++ |
| 06:17.14 | findlay | I've got a garbage bag we can burn right now! |
| 06:36.50 | Sargun | o.O |
| 06:38.13 | Sargun | ouch |
| 06:38.15 | Sargun | o.o |
| 06:38.21 | findlay | -.- |
| 06:54.01 | RyanE | Ruby Shoes rocks. |
| 06:55.04 | Sargun | Ruby Red |
| 06:56.44 | Sargun | What do you guys think of this is a CS test |
| 06:57.23 | Sargun | you create 6 specs for a program |
| 06:57.24 | Sargun | er |
| 06:57.34 | Sargun | You create 6 program specs for a 30 person class |
| 06:57.50 | Sargun | The students will hit a web server where a program spec is dynamically assigned to them |
| 06:58.08 | Sargun | based on their rank it'll add extra requirements |
| 06:58.43 | Lakshmi | that would be like SAT2 for nerds |
| 06:58.44 | Sargun | 5 extra (contradictory) requirements per spec |
| 06:59.50 | Sargun | then you have a chat room that you can monitor |
| 06:59.57 | Sargun | where all students are anonymized |
| 07:00.07 | Sargun | if you catch anyone deanonymizing you can crush them |
| 07:00.24 | Sargun | Students will each be put in groups |
| 07:00.32 | Sargun | (chat groups) |
| 07:00.52 | Sargun | Each chat group will have every problem in them |
| 07:07.52 | Supaplex | -chat about tests |
| 07:07.53 | brac | tests did |
| 09:07.41 | Supaplex | zzZzzzz... |
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| 09:07.44 | brac | echelon fodder was Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway |
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| 14:09.37 | herlo | jsmith-away: ping |
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| 14:29.25 | jsmith | herlo: Pong! |
| 14:30.08 | Sargun | herlo, Ping. |
| 14:30.56 | herlo | jsmith: docbook? |
| 14:31.00 | herlo | Sargun: pong |
| 14:31.07 | Sargun | hm |
| 14:31.09 | Sargun | Supaplex, ping |
| 14:31.13 | Sargun | findlay, ping |
| 14:31.15 | Sargun | RyanE, ping |
| 14:31.18 | Sargun | Tene, ping |
| 14:31.19 | jsmith | herlo: Plink! |
| 14:31.21 | herlo | ~lart Sargun |
| 14:31.21 | ibot | calls Sargun on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 14:31.28 | herlo | jsmith: gmail? |
| 14:31.29 | Sargun | heh |
| 14:31.30 | Sargun | bye |
| 14:45.47 | findlay | -chat echelon fodder |
| 14:45.47 | brac | echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway |
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| 15:03.00 | findlay | ~chat sjansen emcnabb |
| 15:03.05 | findlay | -chat sjansen emcnabb |
| 15:03.05 | brac | sjansen emcnabb |
| 15:03.16 | emcnabb | huh? |
| 15:03.22 | findlay | -chat emcnabb |
| 15:03.22 | brac | emcnabb had |
| 15:03.28 | findlay | -chat emcnabb is |
| 15:03.30 | brac | emcnabb is a better long-tail delivery medium, such as forced antipsychosomatic pills. it's a proving ground here. |
| 15:03.36 | emcnabb | nice |
| 15:03.50 | findlay | -chat findlay |
| 15:03.50 | brac | findlay did it get him started in 3rd grade |
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| 15:12.00 | Sargun | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/welcome.py |
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| 15:12.23 | Sargun | stupid bots. |
| 15:13.12 | Sargun | stupid bots. |
| 15:13.13 | Sargun | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/welcome.py |
| 15:13.14 | brac | [~ |
| 15:13.15 | brac | ~say Your boyfriend takes chocolate from strangers. |
| 15:13.15 | ibot | Your boyfriend takes chocolate from strangers. |
| 15:13.15 | brac | ~] |
| 15:13.21 | Sargun | o.O |
| 15:13.33 | Sargun | ibot, Is there a hidden meaning to that? |
| 15:18.20 | findlay | ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 15:18.21 | ibot | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 15:18.22 | brac | ~onjoin findlay -chat about bots should |
| 15:18.22 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 15:18.40 | Sargun | /kick findlay |
| 15:18.59 | findlay | /kick Sargun |
| 15:19.02 | Sargun | -say hi |
| 15:19.08 | Sargun | -chat ~say hi |
| 15:19.09 | brac | ~say hi |
| 15:19.09 | ibot | hi |
| 15:19.16 | Sargun | ~say -chat ~say hi |
| 15:19.17 | ibot | -chat ~say hi |
| 15:19.24 | findlay | ~onjoin findlay ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 15:19.24 | ibot | ok, findlay |
| 15:26.50 | goozbach | ~quote java |
| 15:27.05 | goozbach | ~quote javad |
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| 15:34.56 | xbmodder_ | Why does Splinter cell http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439829/ keep getting pushed back :-( |
| 15:35.01 | brac | [Splinter Cell (2010)] |
| 15:37.06 | xbmodder_ | its findlay's fault. |
| 15:37.31 | Sargun | and Halo Wars not being released yet... |
| 15:37.34 | Sargun | Findlay's fault too |
| 15:38.51 | Sargun | wtf, why did the sun already rise? |
| 15:38.55 | Sargun | its 7:38 in the morning |
| 15:38.56 | Sargun | er |
| 15:39.01 | Sargun | 8:38 (without DST) |
| 15:39.04 | Sargun | I hate bush. |
| 15:39.10 | Sargun | (totally unrelated) |
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| 15:39.13 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 15:39.21 | Sargun | can change the time again? |
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| 15:57.04 | sargun_n810 | Hey |
| 16:01.53 | mecworks | Hey everyone! |
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| 16:02.52 | sargun_n810 | Hey mecworks |
| 16:03.03 | Jayce^ | man, he's always here now, what's up with that? |
| 16:03.08 | mecworks | hm. |
| 16:03.55 | mecworks | The Mono team lives on IRC so I always have my client running. The iPrint team didn't know what IRC was :) |
| 16:04.18 | sargun_n810 | Irc rocks |
| 16:04.29 | Jayce^ | yeesh |
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| 16:04.53 | elg | sure, blame it on your environment |
| 16:05.00 | sargun_n810 | Netsplits suck though |
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| 16:07.48 | herlo | mecworks: cool, glad to have you back |
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| 16:08.15 | mecworks | thx |
| 16:10.31 | herlo | is this true? http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/01/16/sun-acquires-mysql/ |
| 16:10.36 | herlo | I'm sure I am behind the times |
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| 16:11.33 | Jayce^ | WTF! |
| 16:11.34 | Jayce^ | wow |
| 16:11.41 | Newsome | yes, it's true |
| 16:11.54 | herlo | Newsome: its all over mysql |
| 16:11.57 | herlo | .com |
| 16:12.22 | elg | i read that this morning in my rss |
| 16:12.37 | thaddeusq | herlo: And Oracle is buying BEA |
| 16:12.52 | elg | my reaction was only slightly more interest then any other mysql news story. i.e. "hmm, interesting. <next>" |
| 16:12.52 | herlo | thaddeusq: that's not surprising at all |
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| 16:13.22 | thaddeusq | herlo: Just interesting that it is announced on the same day as the Sun deal. |
| 16:13.47 | herlo | Larry Ellison buys a company a year |
| 16:16.36 | thaddeusq | anyone else having trouble getting to Utah Open Source Planet? |
| 16:17.02 | elg | no |
| 16:17.10 | herlo | thaddeusq: I'm working to fix that btw |
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| 16:19.54 | elg | i need to take a class from dmdavis on how to be totally awesome |
| 16:20.14 | herlo | why? when you could take one from me |
| 16:20.28 | dmdavis | I'm not going to argue, but yeah, why? |
| 16:20.49 | herlo | :) |
| 16:20.52 | elg | mostly because I don't have my joystick handy |
| 16:21.01 | dmdavis | ... |
| 16:21.03 | elg | or I'd fly around the block instead |
| 16:21.43 | elg | that's part of being totally awesome |
| 16:22.09 | dmdavis | I bet you can play a lot more Bach than I can. How awesome can I be? |
| 16:22.25 | elg | he has a point |
| 16:24.19 | elg | how do you teach people just enough linux to survive and not get depressed? linux should be embraced and savored. learning just enough to survive keeps most people this side of the appreciation curve |
| 16:24.49 | elg | but the class is about C not linux, I don't want to waste time on environment |
| 16:24.54 | dmdavis | throw in a few of the really cool ways of doing the things they need to survive. Those who understand, will learn more |
| 16:25.10 | dmdavis | like chmod using octal. mmmm, love that |
| 16:25.21 | elg | :) |
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| 16:26.00 | herlo | chmod using symbolics is *way* better and cooler |
| 16:26.02 | elg | I'm going to encourage them to use eclipse I think. it's one of the less evil IDEs, available on all three platforms (including the lab machines), and I don't have to help people edit their code in pico |
| 16:26.43 | elg | but do I do the first hello, world lab in an editor and command line? or wait until a little later and make them leave their beloved ide for a command-line and makefile experience? |
| 16:27.19 | elg | what about a lazy (slashdot) admin? |
| 16:27.36 | herlo | sure |
| 16:27.38 | herlo | why not? |
| 16:29.02 | dmdavis | have them use eclipse, but do demonstrations using vim, so they can see how you fly around it, and they'll get jealous |
| 16:29.25 | elg | there's an idea |
| 16:29.31 | herlo | jsmith: ping |
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| 16:29.53 | jsmith | herlo: Pong |
| 16:32.07 | herlo | jsmith: was just wondering where I could find good macros for vim with docbook. Might have just found them |
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| 16:34.38 | herlo | in my .vimrc, I have this *augroup* section, what does that represent? |
| 16:34.54 | goozbach | herlo: link |
| 16:34.55 | goozbach | ? |
| 16:34.59 | Keighvin | s/wandets/wanders/ |
| 16:35.09 | herlo | goozbach: in what sense? |
| 16:35.47 | goozbach | I want docbook macros, but don't want to dig. |
| 16:36.08 | goozbach | you've probally got all of bryan's xml macros, no? |
| 16:37.09 | dmdavis | herlo: from what I understand, augroup will group a bunch of commands that are run when you open/close/write/etc. certain file types |
| 16:46.51 | herlo | dmdavis: I see |
| 16:47.43 | elg | herlo: :help 40.3 |
| 16:47.44 | dmdavis | :help augroup gives some good info |
| 16:48.58 | dmdavis | I have a cool augroup in my vimrc, that automatically gpg decrypts any *.asc files on opening, and gpg decrypts them on closing. very nice for storing a list of passwords. |
| 16:49.20 | elg | nice |
| 16:49.41 | elg | does it keep the buffer in locked memory without saving backup files too? |
| 16:50.17 | levi | One BILLION dollars! |
| 16:50.46 | dmdavis | elg: no, but that'd be good. :) |
| 16:51.03 | levi | Don't want anyone snooping your swap partition. |
| 16:51.44 | levi | You probably want to EM-shield your room, too, so they can't snoop your monitor emissions. :P |
| 16:51.50 | herlo | goozbach: well, I'm working on helping fedora-docs project, but I need to figure out how to accommodate more |
| 16:51.53 | herlo | elg: tx |
| 16:52.17 | herlo | dmdavis: thanks, I'll look there. i was hoping to find some good examples on vim.org, but I got distracted |
| 16:52.28 | dmdavis | levi: too true |
| 16:53.44 | elg | if your box isn't multiuser you obviously don't need to fret it |
| 16:54.12 | dmdavis | elg: yeah, but it's nice to have a vimrc that works anywhere |
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| 16:55.44 | tristanbob | herlo, sun buys mysql = good thing |
| 16:57.24 | elg | -metar kpvu |
| 16:57.24 | brac | KPVU 161549Z 00000KT 3SM -SN BKN030 M12/M14 A3028 |
| 16:57.31 | levi | Cool, Parsing Expression Grammars in Ruby. |
| 16:57.37 | levi | (treetop) |
| 16:57.52 | levi | tristanbob: For... One BILLION dollars! |
| 16:58.20 | tristanbob | levi, is that the price? |
| 16:58.27 | levi | Yes, in cash and stock options. |
| 16:59.26 | dmdavis | elg: I now have it disabling swap/backup files, but locking memory may be beyond the scope of my motivation |
| 16:59.52 | elg | sounds like a reasonable spot of diminishing returns |
| 17:00.00 | elg | locking memory is really only necessary if you don't trust root |
| 17:00.05 | elg | i think |
| 17:00.09 | levi | elg: Have you seen treetop? |
| 17:00.15 | elg | no |
| 17:00.19 | elg | link? |
| 17:00.28 | levi | http://treetop.rubyforge.org/ |
| 17:00.38 | levi | Way cool way to parse. |
| 17:01.39 | elg | sweet, it looks awesome |
| 17:01.44 | elg | that makes me warm and fuzzy |
| 17:01.47 | levi | Indeed. |
| 17:02.15 | levi | Parsing Expression Grammars make me warm and fuzzy, and clean embedded DSLs do, too. |
| 17:02.21 | levi | Just a great combination. |
| 17:02.25 | elg | if I'm reading this right, it's basically the idea I had (but never implemented). I didn't realize I was describing a PEG |
| 17:02.34 | elg | since I didn't know what a PEG was |
| 17:03.05 | elg | can you include regexes anywhere? i.e. no distinction between terminals and nonterminals? |
| 17:03.18 | elg | (at least, not in the flex/bison fashion) |
| 17:03.52 | levi | PEGs don't require a separate tokenizing phase. |
| 17:04.47 | levi | See the rule for 'number' in the first example. |
| 17:04.59 | tensai | that's um, pretty cool |
| 17:05.02 | tensai | com.usps.entreg.exceptions.EntRegInvalidUserIdException: null User Id is invalid. |
| 17:06.21 | levi | elg: I believe what looks like a regular expression in the 'number' production is part of the PEG language. |
| 17:06.22 | elg | ok, they don't use regexes but only character classes |
| 17:07.11 | levi | elg: I can point you to the research papers that develop the PEG/Packrat parsing concepts, if you'd like. |
| 17:07.14 | elg | would it violate PEGiness to allow real regexes for terminals? |
| 17:07.29 | elg | sure, but I oughtn't delve today |
| 17:08.28 | levi | http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~baford/packrat/ |
| 17:08.31 | brac | [Packrat Parsing and |
| 17:08.31 | brac | Parsing Expression Grammars] |
| 17:09.05 | levi | That's the definitive source, AFAIK. |
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| 17:13.17 | tensai | ugh. and now they're making me plug my printer in to print. the USPS is UNREASONABLE! |
| 17:13.28 | Tene | levi: what do you know about Arc? |
| 17:13.31 | levi | The big downside is that they're essentially defining a recursive-descent parser, so you can't have left-recursion in your grammar, which can be inconvenient, but not horrible. |
| 17:13.56 | levi | Tene: It's a Lisp, and Paul Graham wrote it. It powers his reddit-like site. |
| 17:14.08 | levi | Tene: It will be open-sourced 'real soon now'. |
| 17:14.31 | elg | cool |
| 17:15.23 | levi | (back to PEGs) However, they typically use a packrat parser, which is recursive descent + memoization, so you get linear time at the cost of space usage proportional to total input size. |
| 17:16.25 | levi | But space is pretty cheap these days, so it's a pretty fair tradeoff for unlimited lookahead in your parser, in my opinion. |
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| 17:16.35 | elg | i think so too |
| 17:17.18 | levi | BTW, I just got the new edition of the Dragon book. |
| 17:17.20 | elg | esp. if you can utilize the disk for particularly large stuff (and i don't mean swap space) |
| 17:17.27 | elg | new edition? |
| 17:17.48 | levi | Yeah, published last year. It mentions Java and C#, and the source code is in Java. |
| 17:18.01 | levi | It's kind of disconcerting, really. |
| 17:18.25 | elg | 2nd edition? |
| 17:18.30 | levi | Yup. |
| 17:19.24 | levi | The nice thing is that it's got updated information in the optimization half of the book that deals with modern CPU architectures. |
| 17:19.55 | levi | I could do without the Java stuff, but I'm sure it's nice for a lot of people. |
| 17:20.48 | elg | probably |
| 17:21.23 | elg | does it modernize pretty well then? |
| 17:21.28 | RyanE | well, especially Bryan. |
| 17:22.28 | levi | elg: I've only read through a couple of chapters so far, and I haven't read the 1st edition, but it seems fairly up-to-date. |
| 17:22.46 | elg | speaking of text books, this 'C How to Program' book is intriguing. both a joke and not a joke |
| 17:23.00 | elg | more than half the book is dedicated to C++, object oriented, Java (including AWT and Swing) |
| 17:23.19 | levi | Though it's definitely geared towards compiling C-family languages. |
| 17:23.21 | elg | the design is an excercise in ugly |
| 17:23.31 | levi | I want to get Appel's compiler books for comparison purposes. |
| 17:23.46 | elg | the authors think they're all that and a ball of wax |
| 17:24.11 | elg | but otoh there's merit to the sequence the book goes in, and lots of examples and exercise |
| 17:24.13 | elg | s |
| 17:24.24 | levi | 'Modern Compiler Implementation' and 'Compiling with Continuations' |
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| 17:35.23 | levi | Ahh, I love Google Book Search. |
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| 17:51.33 | ^Migs^ | hmm, Oracle just bought BEA for $8.5 bil |
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| 18:22.40 | Supaplex | Sargun: pong :) wa'sup? |
| 18:24.06 | Supaplex | should I know who BEA is? |
| 18:24.19 | Sargun | hi Supaplex |
| 18:24.22 | Sargun | yeah |
| 18:24.35 | Sargun | They deal with Java Stuff |
| 18:24.55 | Supaplex | oh, if that's all, then I'm indifferent |
| 18:25.41 | Sargun | no |
| 18:25.43 | Sargun | they do a bunch more |
| 18:38.36 | findlay | levi: do you use uvsc's wireless? |
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| 18:42.20 | Sargun | Supaplex, anyways |
| 18:42.22 | Sargun | what's up |
| 18:42.23 | findlay | it seems to block ssh traffic |
| 18:42.26 | Sargun | why? |
| 18:42.35 | Sargun | findlay, maybe they just don't like you |
| 19:01.45 | findlay | -chat don't like |
| 19:01.45 | brac | don't like Java. |
| 19:01.49 | findlay | heh |
| 19:06.39 | Sargun | haha |
| 19:06.41 | Sargun | brac, hug. |
| 19:06.46 | Sargun | you idiot of a bot, hug. |
| 19:06.48 | Sargun | hug me. |
| 19:06.51 | Sargun | brac, hug me |
| 19:06.54 | Sargun | -chat hug |
| 19:06.54 | brac | hug had |
| 19:07.16 | Sargun | -chat hug sargun |
| 19:07.17 | brac | hug sargun |
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| 19:10.07 | dmdavis | -hug sargun |
| 19:10.14 | dmdavis | ~hug sargun |
| 19:10.15 | ibot | ACTION jumps into sargun's lap and huggles and *hugs* sargun |
| 19:12.56 | Sargun | not ibot, brac. |
| 19:25.56 | ^Migs^ | http://www.break.com/index/9-year-old-beats-hardest-guitar-hero-level.html |
| 19:25.57 | brac | [9 Year Old Beats Hardest Guitar Hero Level Video] |
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| 19:36.06 | herlo | tristanbob: didn't say otherwise :) |
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| 20:16.20 | levi | findlay: Yes, I use UVSC's wireless. |
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| 20:28.28 | emcnabb | I asked this before, but does anyone here do back-end web development? i.e. I know someone who is looking for help on several projects (e.g. setting up an CMS, Wiki, Databases, etc) |
| 20:28.51 | herlo | emcnabb: hi |
| 20:28.52 | emcnabb | he runs a web design company, and is looking for help |
| 20:28.56 | emcnabb | herlo, hi |
| 20:29.15 | herlo | emcnabb: interested in coming by for dinner this eve? I'm going to sneak out of here early tonight |
| 20:29.56 | emcnabb | herlo, hum, let me see |
| 20:30.06 | herlo | emcnabb: either way is good. I'm going |
| 20:30.14 | emcnabb | the wife and kid left for Illinois today, and I join them on Friday |
| 20:30.30 | emcnabb | so I'm free, but 1) the dog needs let out 2) I'm broke |
| 20:31.00 | emcnabb | the dog will have been in the kennel for 9 hrs, so that's the number one concern :-) |
| 20:31.06 | emcnabb | hum, very tempting |
| 20:31.29 | emcnabb | herlo, what time are you thinking about taking off? |
| 20:31.35 | herlo | 6ish |
| 20:31.54 | herlo | if you wanna let your dog out and meet me back here, it could be a little later |
| 20:32.24 | emcnabb | herlo, it's about 25 minutes each way, so that might take a bit - let me see if I can get the neighbor kid to do it |
| 20:32.30 | herlo | k, either way |
| 20:38.10 | levi | Ooh, it's got an afterward by Robert Scoble! |
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| 20:40.02 | levi | It's cool theat he actually co-wrote a book, though. |
| 20:40.42 | tensai | there can't be that much to writing a book. I mean, jsmith did it. |
| 20:40.50 | jsmith | tensai: Amen, brother! |
| 20:41.21 | jsmith | tensai: In fact, if you would have come to my presentation on Saturday, you would have heard my talk entitled "You Too Can Write a Book (using vim)" |
| 20:42.01 | levi | Ugh. Emacs is the only way to write a book! ;) |
| 20:43.09 | levi | Speaking of books... the ACM has created a list of classic books, and they're placing them online for members as they get permission from publishers: http://portal.acm.org/toc.cfm?id=SERIES11430&type=series&coll=ACM&dl=ACM |
| 20:44.34 | jsmith | levi: I have to almost agree with you on that... Emacs has some nice DocBook keybindings |
| 20:44.48 | jsmith | levi: It's almost enough to make me try Emacs again... but just not quite enough |
| 20:45.19 | levi | C'mon, emacs isn't that hard. I picked it up after years of solid vim use. |
| 20:45.42 | levi | They've both got their strengths. |
| 20:46.24 | levi | I tend to side with emacs because there aren't too many vocal emacs users locally, and I'd like to see more. |
| 20:46.31 | herlo | levi: Jesse wrote a book? |
| 20:46.35 | herlo | what's it called? |
| 20:46.49 | RyanE | I haven't used emacs since using it as a usenet reader in college (15+ years ago) |
| 20:46.52 | Jayce^ | he helped... :) |
| 20:46.53 | pelaofeliz | pfft. what kind of religious stance is that to take? 'they've both got their strengths'? :) |
| 20:47.03 | levi | herlo: "I'm on Facebook. Now what????" or something very close to that. |
| 20:47.06 | RyanE | herlo: I think it's called "I lurve Facebook, and you should too, for dummies" |
| 20:47.23 | Jayce^ | facebook is the 1337 |
| 20:47.24 | herlo | levi: oh okay |
| 20:47.30 | herlo | RyanE: haha, nice |
| 20:47.41 | RyanE | herlo: or maybe it was 'by dummies'... |
| 20:48.08 | herlo | RyanE: Jesse seems nice, although I'm not a big social networking site fan |
| 20:48.27 | emcnabb | herlo, jsmith goozbach let me know if you still want me to do an order with my employee discount http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/ |
| 20:48.31 | RyanE | I just find his fanboyism a bit annoying. |
| 20:48.36 | levi | He's a nice guy, but he seems to have totally gone off the deep end lately with his social stuff. |
| 20:48.41 | herlo | emcnabb: I do |
| 20:48.52 | emcnabb | herlo, give me a list, and check it twice |
| 20:48.54 | herlo | levi: he's trying to make money |
| 20:48.59 | herlo | emcnabb: will do, very soon |
| 20:49.05 | emcnabb | herlo, np |
| 20:49.06 | herlo | emcnabb: how long does it take? |
| 20:49.24 | herlo | for an order to come back, that is |
| 20:49.25 | emcnabb | not sure - I'll probably have to ship it to you later |
| 20:49.32 | herlo | np |
| 20:49.35 | levi | herlo: Sure, but so are used care salesmen. |
| 20:49.35 | herlo | just thought I'd ask |
| 20:49.40 | levi | Er, used car. |
| 20:49.51 | herlo | levi: and thus I shop at CarMax, no pressure sales |
| 20:50.04 | herlo | just good cars and friendly people who sell them |
| 21:09.05 | emcnabb | herlo, jsmith goozbach FYI, I can get Red Fedoras for 50% off (I think goozbach was asking about that) |
| 21:09.47 | Tene | Ooo. |
| 21:10.29 | goozbach | emcnabb: I've already got one |
| 21:10.37 | Tene | That would be entertaining. |
| 21:10.50 | emcnabb | goozbach, ok, it was someone else then |
| 21:10.53 | goozbach | I wear it to LUG meetings |
| 21:10.59 | goozbach | that's the only time I take it out |
| 21:15.20 | mrpull | wait... you guys wear red fedoras in public? |
| 21:15.52 | mrpull | wasn't there an episode of Seinfeld where Cramer picks up a hat that fell off of a pimp? |
| 21:17.16 | Keighvin | mrpull: Yup. He collects the whole of his outfit throughout the episode. |
| 21:17.33 | Keighvin | Including a coat from a Henry VIII costume, and a cane from somewhere or other. |
| 21:18.02 | mrpull | I've got family that can recite episodes, but I've only seen a handful. |
| 21:18.12 | Keighvin | I believe it's the same episode where George discovers the parking lot he's using is providing prostitution in the cars. |
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| 21:18.38 | mrpull | but thinking of a person wearing a red hat in public screams goofy stereotypical pimp |
| 21:18.58 | Keighvin | The punch-line of that sub-plot is of course a minor scuffle between the pimp-clad Kramer and the parking lot employees. |
| 21:19.02 | Sargun | mrpull, stereotypical |
| 21:19.04 | Keighvin | IIRC, it's been a while since I've seen that one. |
| 21:19.04 | mrpull | sometime the concepts of seinfeld are funnier than the execution. |
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| 21:24.37 | levi | So, I now have the latest edition of the Dragon book as well as the '72 Aho & Ullman text on compiling. It's interesting to see what's changed and what's stayed the same. |
| 21:24.55 | dmdavis | such as? |
| 21:26.21 | levi | Well, the '07 book is split halfway, the first half being lexing/parsing/intermediate code gen/etc. and the second half being optimizations. |
| 21:28.23 | levi | In the '72 book, there are two physical volumes, but you don't even get to code generation at all until the very last chapter, which has a couple of sections on optimizations. |
| 21:29.26 | dmdavis | so almost the whole book is lexing and parsing? |
| 21:29.31 | levi | Yup. |
| 21:29.34 | dmdavis | interesting |
| 21:29.50 | dmdavis | the new one sounds more practical. is there a trade off? |
| 21:30.11 | elg | yeah, you can't interchange the two as textbooks ;-) |
| 21:30.27 | levi | I think the new one assumes that you have a little bit more background in automata theory and such. |
| 21:32.13 | levi | Part of the easing off of the lexing and parsing stages is because they're pretty well-known now and encapsulated into tools like lex and yacc. The theory behind lexing and parsing was still fresh and exciting in '72. :) |
| 21:43.05 | Supaplex | so, tell me this, who was fresh and exciting in '72? |
| 21:43.30 | levi | I'm not sure what you mean by that. |
| 21:43.44 | emcnabb | herlo, the dog has been taken care of |
| 21:43.59 | emcnabb | herlo, so I'm good to go for this evening |
| 21:45.46 | Supaplex | levi: I for one, was not. but apparently NASA was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972 |
| 21:50.24 | herlo | emcnabb: see you at 5:30is then |
| 21:50.30 | herlo | we'll leave here at about 6pm |
| 21:51.14 | emcnabb | herlo, sounds good - I'll meet you over there |
| 21:51.24 | herlo | k, cool! |
| 21:55.28 | emcnabb | see you then! |
| 21:57.13 | herlo | :) |
| 22:03.34 | levi | http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/whats-wrong-with-cs-research.html?dupe=with_honor |
| 22:13.56 | herlo | ~tinyurl levi |
| 22:13.56 | ibot | ACTION adds a ton of characters to the original URL and then flicks a booger at herlo |
| 22:17.35 | elg | ha ha http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7192731.stm |
| 22:17.42 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Americas | White House e-mails 'may be lost'] |
| 22:18.46 | herlo | ~tinyurl levi |
| 22:18.47 | ibot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=levi' and laughs maniacally! |
| 22:20.00 | ^Migs^ | haha, what is this: http://images.google.com/imagelabeler/ |
| 22:20.07 | brac | [Google Image Labeler] |
| 22:20.54 | ^Migs^ | brilliant. Google turned image tagging into a fun game. |
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| 22:24.13 | rsimpkins | Colombian government system administrators trying to back up 12 year old SCO systems. :) |
| 22:26.47 | herlo | mrpull: you just discovered that? |
| 22:26.56 | herlo | ^Migs^: you just discovered that? |
| 22:27.02 | herlo | sorry mrpull |
| 22:27.22 | mrpull | herlo: np. I'll charge you for the time scrolling up. |
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| 22:34.33 | herlo | :) |
| 22:35.16 | levi | Woot! My new camera has been delivered! |
| 22:35.41 | ^Migs^ | HAHAHAHA http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-mythbuster-cat.jpg |
| 22:35.45 | ^Migs^ | herlo: Yes, I did |
| 22:35.58 | elg | lol |
| 22:37.01 | levi | elg: Did you read the thing at the URL I pasted? |
| 22:37.11 | elg | which thing? |
| 22:38.25 | levi | The "What's wrong with CS research' esssay. |
| 22:41.19 | elg | don't think I saw it |
| 22:41.40 | elg | heh. the anti-twitter |
| 22:41.40 | levi | http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/whats-wrong-with-cs-research.html |
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| 22:56.08 | tensai | ^Migs^: that is pretty fun |
| 23:05.59 | elg | interesting |
| 23:06.14 | elg | worth the food for thought but I wouldn't call it gospel |
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| 23:34.00 | findlay | levi: well, problem was I didn't know that you had to log in to use the network |
| 23:34.41 | findlay | having a persistent browser session from elsewhere and trying to use non-browser access threw me off |
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| 23:40.05 | levi | findlay: Indeed. |
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| 23:42.10 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 23:42.49 | Sargun | Anyone in here a redhat expert know why "chkconfig --add nfs" doesn't turn NFS on for any run levels? |
| 23:43.03 | findlay | you're using it wrong |
| 23:43.27 | findlay | you need to do `chkconfig -add nfs 345` to enable NFS for runlevels 3,4,5 |
| 23:43.36 | findlay | s/-add/--add/ |
| 23:44.11 | Sargun | usage: |
| 23:44.16 | Sargun | chkconfig --add <name> |
| 23:44.46 | Sargun | I had to do a chkconfig --level 345 nfs on |
| 23:45.22 | findlay | `chkconfig --level nfs 345` |
| 23:45.31 | findlay | bah |
| 23:45.35 | findlay | that's it :) |
| 23:46.55 | findlay | check the manpage |
| 23:47.48 | findlay | the --add option it looks like just adds a script to chkconfig's notice |
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| 23:57.05 | Supaplex | vms2beta is the suxor. man... |
