| 00:06.35 | tensai | dmdavis: you can't eat two dinners? how un-american. |
| 00:06.48 | tensai | speaking of un-american |
| 00:06.51 | tensai | ~echelon fodder |
| 00:06.52 | ibot | i guess echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway |
| 00:07.15 | Supaplex | brac: say ~echelon fodder |
| 00:07.16 | brac | insufficient "say" auth (have 10, need 70) |
| 00:07.23 | Supaplex | fooey |
| 00:08.35 | tensai | -chat echelon fodder |
| 00:08.36 | brac | echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, so he can get a refund? |
| 00:08.47 | Supaplex | haha nice. |
| 00:09.31 | tensai | I don't think you'll get a refund on the rented van when you combine it with a uranium and tnt |
| 00:31.02 | findlay | Tene: I could give you a ride |
| 00:36.06 | tensai | findlay: I think he left already |
| 00:51.53 | findlay | everybody's leaving |
| 00:52.45 | Supaplex | bye! |
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| 00:52.54 | brac | echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway |
| 00:57.06 | findlay | I think you |
| 00:57.14 | findlay | 've found a good one |
| 00:58.59 | herlo | -chat cannon fodder |
| 00:59.00 | brac | cannon fodder |
| 00:59.05 | herlo | -chat fodder |
| 00:59.05 | brac | fodder had |
| 00:59.09 | herlo | -chat fodder eschelon |
| 00:59.10 | brac | fodder eschelon |
| 00:59.13 | herlo | boo! |
| 00:59.38 | Supaplex | -chat echelon |
| 00:59.38 | brac | echelon is |
| 00:59.48 | Supaplex | -chat herlo fodder |
| 00:59.49 | brac | herlo fodder |
| 01:00.02 | herlo | -chat banana pineapple |
| 01:00.02 | brac | banana pineapple |
| 01:00.26 | findlay | -chat herlo |
| 01:00.26 | brac | herlo had an embedded ascii movie viewer! Once I got this old bash function I cleaned out my ear.... |
| 01:00.33 | findlay | heh |
| 01:00.53 | herlo | -chat findlay |
| 01:00.53 | brac | findlay was wanting the status and then print, sign and send... |
| 01:01.09 | herlo | -chat fodder echelon |
| 01:01.09 | brac | fodder echelon |
| 01:01.14 | herlo | danm! |
| 01:01.36 | Supaplex | nice job. you totally busticated it :*( |
| 01:01.57 | herlo | ~busticate Supaplex |
| 01:02.00 | findlay | fodder lodder |
| 01:02.04 | findlay | -chat fodder |
| 01:02.04 | brac | fodder did |
| 01:02.23 | herlo | ibot: busticate $1 is <action> busticates $1 over her knee! |
| 01:02.24 | ibot | herlo: okay |
| 01:02.27 | herlo | ~busticate Supaplex |
| 01:02.27 | ibot | ACTION busticates Supaplex over her knee! |
| 01:02.46 | herlo | ~herlo Supaplex |
| 01:02.47 | ibot | ACTION pokes Supaplex in they eye with a sharp needle |
| 01:02.49 | herlo | hmm |
| 01:05.33 | herlo | now ibot is back, with a vengeance |
| 01:05.42 | herlo | ~simpsons Supaplex |
| 01:05.43 | ibot | ACTION sends Supaplex chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 01:06.11 | Supaplex | hehe nice |
| 01:06.39 | herlo | ~pineapple goozbach |
| 01:06.47 | herlo | ~pineapple |
| 01:06.47 | ibot | ACTION dances around with a pineapple on her head, singing o/' O pineapple, O pineapple, thy skin is very pokey o/` |
| 01:06.52 | Tene | findlay: thanks, but dmdavis already did. |
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| 01:39.26 | Sargun | Where are the satellites |
| 01:40.11 | findlay | there are 900+ satellites in orbit |
| 01:40.31 | linuxalien | Sweet |
| 01:40.42 | findlay | and probably lots more junk |
| 01:40.47 | linuxalien | No wonder we haven't gone to Mars. We're afraid of hitting one of them. ;) |
| 01:41.25 | findlay | manned orbital spaceflight is much more risky in that way than it used to be |
| 01:42.00 | findlay | my rocket scientist uncle told me that |
| 01:42.06 | linuxalien | Yeah, but it can and needs to be done |
| 01:42.10 | findlay | (about the 900+ satellites) |
| 01:42.15 | linuxalien | if you don't go forwards, you go backwards |
| 01:42.25 | findlay | well, we need better garbage collection in space |
| 01:42.30 | linuxalien | Yup |
| 01:42.45 | linuxalien | I wouldn't mind being that garbage man |
| 01:43.02 | findlay | you can't just wait for everything's orbit to decay and burn up in the outer atmosphere |
| 01:43.47 | linuxalien | Definitely. I wonder why they don't do more....most likely money |
| 01:45.29 | herlo | jsmith-away: pingaling |
| 01:45.30 | findlay | heh |
| 01:46.19 | findlay | guess that means I could apply my model to near-earth junk |
| 01:47.05 | linuxalien | findlay - that is cool. Is that a major/job? I think you told me once but I've forgotten already |
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| 01:47.39 | findlay | linuxalien: I'm just doing some undergraduate research |
| 01:48.12 | Supaplex | undergraduates are interesting? |
| 01:48.47 | linuxalien | findlay, way cool. I like science even if I'm not a scientist |
| 01:48.57 | linuxalien | Supaplex, of course! |
| 01:49.24 | Supaplex | -chat about undergraduates |
| 01:49.25 | brac | undergraduates had |
| 01:49.52 | findlay | undergraduates are the nameless, faceless grunts behind all difficult science :) |
| 01:50.07 | linuxalien | Very nice. |
| 01:55.14 | findlay | synic: if I had known the cloud-whatever was coming out so soon, I might have gotten one of those instead :/ |
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| 02:43.23 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
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| 03:41.31 | findlay | ok, I'm dumb |
| 03:42.52 | findlay | I'm trying to do simple X11 forwarding over ssh, but when I type `xev` it says it can't open display: '' |
| 03:57.43 | Supaplex | findlay: echo $DISPLAY ? |
| 03:58.00 | Supaplex | findlay: failing that, relogin with ssh -vX |
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| 04:06.19 | findlay | Supaplex: no $DISPLAY |
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| 04:06.45 | findlay | even though I've enabled X11Forwarding in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 04:06.53 | findlay | and restarted the service |
| 04:07.04 | findlay | I need to power down my server |
| 04:07.14 | findlay | moving it across the room :) |
| 04:07.16 | findlay | bbl |
| 04:12.40 | Sargun | Are there any graphing programs that let me graph in standard form? |
| 04:18.23 | elg | that depends on what standard form is |
| 04:18.26 | elg | and what you mean by "let" |
| 04:19.59 | fozzmoo | Some graphing program only "let" you graph in yoga form. |
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| 04:46.59 | Armadillio | anyone using galeon? |
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| 05:15.15 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 05:15.29 | fozzmoo | I don't know if that'll *ever* get old. ;-) |
| 05:26.41 | Lakshmi | lol i think it could |
| 05:43.04 | Supaplex | -chat about ~onjoin #utah fozzmoo <action> greets fozzmoo |
| 05:43.04 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 05:43.10 | Supaplex | :) |
| 05:47.47 | Supaplex | http://www.ln-s.net/1Pnl |
| 05:48.05 | Supaplex | humm |
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| 06:37.12 | brac | recursive one. |
| 06:42.01 | findlay | ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 06:42.02 | ibot | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 06:42.07 | brac | ~onjoin findlay -chat about ~say -chat ~say -chat about ~say -chat ~onjoin Tene |
| 06:42.07 | ibot | brac: ok |
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| 06:52.51 | brac | echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a super-cheap place, and it makes sense |
| 06:58.08 | levi | Good evening. |
| 07:03.54 | Supaplex | levi: hello :) |
| 07:03.59 | levi | How's it going? |
| 07:04.28 | Supaplex | unnerving |
| 07:04.50 | levi | I was looking for an adverb, not an adjective. |
| 07:04.52 | Supaplex | I think somehow I misplaced the mail on all the rebates I did in December |
| 07:04.59 | Supaplex | ok, |
| 07:05.07 | Supaplex | not good. |
| 07:05.14 | levi | That's unfortunate. |
| 07:05.30 | levi | I lost my book receipts from last semester, so I couldn't get reimbursed for them. |
| 07:05.33 | levi | >$100, too. |
| 07:06.02 | Supaplex | I'll have to see how well the 'resubmission' approach plays out |
| 07:06.19 | Supaplex | I have documentation of everything, so I guess the fax line will be busy :) |
| 07:06.20 | levi | What kind of rebates? |
| 07:07.00 | Supaplex | atleast $500 in rebates for software, and stuff I bought with a laptop for moms' Christmas present |
| 07:07.37 | levi | Yow, that must have been a lot of software. |
| 07:07.54 | Supaplex | when they clear, the laptop and software will drop to a net price of ~$200 |
| 07:08.01 | Supaplex | yup |
| 07:08.30 | Supaplex | the three McAfee titles cover a few hundred alone. the other 10 or so titles cover the rest |
| 07:09.41 | levi | I bought a computer for my father-in-law. I just put Linux on it. |
| 07:09.42 | Supaplex | I did the same rebates on my pc a few months ago, and I ended up making profit after all the rebate checks came back. |
| 07:11.37 | Supaplex | so how's linux treating your father-in-law? |
| 07:11.51 | levi | Pretty good. He really likes it. |
| 07:12.13 | klys | supaplex: how's linux treating your pc keyboard? |
| 07:12.39 | Supaplex | just fine klys. |
| 07:12.48 | klys | a'ite |
| 07:13.29 | Supaplex | would you rather I ask levi, how his father-in-law is adjusting to using Linux? |
| 07:13.37 | Supaplex | *shrug* |
| 07:13.53 | klys | well, I would speak my mind |
| 07:14.07 | klys | the keyboard is something linux really helps me use |
| 07:14.52 | Supaplex | yeah. more typing, less clicking. |
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| 08:43.52 | Lakshmi | hi xbmodder_ |
| 08:43.57 | xbmodder_ | hi |
| 08:47.00 | Lakshmi | Sargun hi |
| 08:47.09 | Lakshmi | are you alive yet? |
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| 14:24.33 | Sargun | hey |
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| 14:57.23 | brac | echelon fodder was Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway |
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| 15:00.04 | atoponce | what is the last column in this /etc/sudoers line: aaron ALL=(ALL) ALL? |
| 15:00.23 | Sargun | text |
| 15:00.27 | Supaplex | an alias for all apps |
| 15:00.27 | atoponce | i know it's username MACHINE=COMMANDS, but don't know what the last ALL is all about |
| 15:00.40 | atoponce | an alias for all apps? |
| 15:00.41 | sjansen | Use aaron can use sudo to run any command on any machine. |
| 15:01.03 | atoponce | that's machine=commands |
| 15:01.04 | sjansen | With any arguments, IIRC. |
| 15:01.13 | atoponce | what's machine=commands ALL? |
| 15:01.17 | Supaplex | atoponce: if $command =~ m/.*/ .. |
| 15:01.30 | sjansen | heh |
| 15:02.05 | Supaplex | the man page doesn't help? |
| 15:03.37 | sjansen | atoponce: sudo can limit not only commands but arguments, so you can "vi /etc/foo" but not "vi /etc/shadow" |
| 15:03.42 | sjansen | man sudoers |
| 15:04.06 | tensai | but if you vi /etc/foo, you can always :e /etc/shadow |
| 15:04.41 | Supaplex | sudo also has a special wrapper for crippling editors from doing *some* things. (a creative user could eaisly evade it though) |
| 15:05.03 | Supaplex | eg, like tensai suggests :) |
| 15:05.30 | sjansen | tensai: Good point. |
| 15:06.52 | atoponce | not understanding the cmnd_alias thing, but i guess i'll learn |
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| 15:10.57 | atoponce | or, am i reading it wrong |
| 15:11.31 | atoponce | is (ALL) what is unique about that line? is that the commands, or the alias? |
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| 15:13.07 | atoponce | the man page says "We let root and any user in the wheel run any command on any host as any user." so, root MACHINE=COMMANDS USER? |
| 15:13.22 | atoponce | or root MACHINE=USER COMMANDS |
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| 16:10.05 | ^Migs^ | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2491533 |
| 16:10.06 | brac | [ksl.com - Convicted embezzler gets 2018 prison release date] |
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| 16:11.36 | ^Migs^ | let her rot |
| 16:12.25 | bonez39 | anyone here ever successfully revive/repair a laptop in which the BIOS has been hozed? |
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| 16:14.16 | Supaplex | revive doesn't include smashing it to bits, does it? :D |
| 16:14.50 | bonez39 | no...... |
| 16:14.55 | bonez39 | our neighbor ' |
| 16:15.31 | Sargun | Has anyone here played around with central authentication? |
| 16:15.37 | Supaplex | bonez39: what state of hosed is it? does it need reflashing, or a simple battery reset? |
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| 16:16.07 | bonez39 | our neighbor 'gave' my wife this laptop..it's an ancient machine....only had 256 mb ram....1.3 gig processor....20 gig hdd....she wanted me to set it up with win xp pro and quickbooks....I did..and had it running, but then added more ram...and it wouldn't see the ram so I ran one of hp's own BIOS flash applets..and now it doesn't display..just beeps a lot...... |
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| 16:16.45 | bonez39 | Supaplex: not sure...it very consistently beeps once, then 3\ fast beeps another 3..and then just the cd spins up and the hdd..but nothing shows on the monitor |
| 16:16.46 | Sargun | ooh, that's sad.. |
| 16:16.47 | Supaplex | euuuu that's not good. |
| 16:17.03 | Sargun | Did you dissect it? |
| 16:17.09 | Sargun | did you call hp support? |
| 16:17.23 | bonez39 | I got on the chat tech support with hp....some sap from india I think talked with me..said for only $398...I could send to HP who would then FIX the problem and return it to me |
| 16:17.34 | bonez39 | it's so old they have no voice support for this one.... |
| 16:17.40 | Supaplex | I'd hold their feet to the fire, even if it's not in warranty. that's a pretty critical element to fail when you're trying to service it. |
| 16:18.23 | bonez39 | well, I have a print out SHOWING that they recommend this particular sp24142.exe flash update..and I ran it, and now my machine won't boot |
| 16:18.32 | bonez39 | way out of warranty |
| 16:18.41 | Supaplex | you might be better off finding a skeleton on ebay, and swapping bios flasheeproms |
| 16:18.43 | bonez39 | going to call Best buy here first.... |
| 16:19.14 | bonez39 | Supaplex: I know it's business, big bisness.....but why won't HP just sell me the flasheeprom......for cost plus some profit on that chip.....I'd gladly do that |
| 16:19.15 | Supaplex | oh this'll be fun. let's see what the dork squad suggests. :P "Buy a new one!" |
| 16:19.26 | bonez39 | yueah......just buy a new one...right |
| 16:19.29 | Sargun | What's the model number? |
| 16:19.40 | bonez39 | ze4125 |
| 16:19.46 | Supaplex | bonez39: why? too easy. ;) |
| 16:19.48 | bonez39 | oh, pavilion ze4125 |
| 16:20.08 | bonez39 | laziness....really...no one wants to fix things.and get to the problem..just sell new..... |
| 16:20.14 | bonez39 | lack of ingenuity |
| 16:24.39 | Supaplex | bonez39: there's a thought. ask hp what the part number is for the system/bios eeprom |
| 16:24.47 | Supaplex | maybe you can look around and find a spare |
| 16:25.15 | Supaplex | hp/compaq are known as finatics of giving everything a part number |
| 16:25.44 | Sargun | haha |
| 16:25.54 | Sargun | I've dealt with that before |
| 16:25.56 | bonez39 | problem is even finding the partnumber....are you talking abouit p/n for the eeprom, or the whole laptop? |
| 16:26.06 | jsmith | bonez39: Another option is to find the exact same model of laptop on eBay... preferrably one with a broken screen. |
| 16:26.23 | Supaplex | yup. skeleton for parts :) |
| 16:26.31 | bonez39 | jsmith: I'll check on ebay now |
| 16:26.35 | bonez39 | ok |
| 16:27.06 | Supaplex | so far I've found 15 pages of power supplies and batteries. only some sparse listings for keyboards, ram, other stuff. |
| 16:27.50 | bonez39 | yeah, lots of batteries there for my machine |
| 16:29.19 | Supaplex | ouuu new rubber feet. that'll help. |
| 16:29.55 | bonez39 | hmmm no complete boxes |
| 16:30.08 | bonez39 | rubber feet...I'll get those once I have fixed my BIOS problem... |
| 16:30.21 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 16:30.27 | Supaplex | http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-PAVILION-COMPAQ-PRESARIO-Rubber-Feet-4-Pieces_W0QQitemZ140197590192QQihZ004QQcategoryZ31534QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 16:30.53 | bonez39 | I just know or think I know , that if I were to have HP fix this...they probably stick in a parallel port jumper ... run a crisis recovery disk...takes 'em probably 2 minutes.....cha CHINNNNNGGGGG |
| 16:31.16 | Supaplex | yup |
| 16:32.33 | Supaplex | Page 28 of 46 geewiz. |
| 16:33.03 | Supaplex | http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Pavillion-laptop-N5000-N5xxx-for-parts-or-repair_W0QQitemZ170185591852QQihZ007QQcategoryZ140082QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 16:33.44 | Supaplex | http://cgi.ebay.com/compaq-presario-2100-motherboard-319612-001-used-tested_W0QQitemZ140198808929QQihZ004QQcategoryZ60266QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 16:35.10 | goozbach | I had a rubber feet once |
| 16:35.36 | Sargun | haha |
| 16:36.28 | Supaplex | goozbach: just throw them at sleepy class members to keep them awake, right? |
| 16:36.57 | bonez39 | Supaplex: that first link was for not my machine, but maybe the second....what was the search term you entered on ebay to get those last two links? |
| 16:37.34 | Supaplex | pavilion ze4125, searching titles and desc, but I narrowed it down to a more relavant category |
| 16:38.05 | ^Migs^ | I think Dreamhost just charged a ton of their customers their annual bill prematurely |
| 16:38.25 | ^Migs^ | I'm talking to several people right now, and like me they got charged, some several $100 |
| 16:38.43 | Supaplex | ^Migs^: they've adopted Arosnet accelerated billing huh? |
| 16:38.49 | ^Migs^ | even though they're nowhere close to their billing date. Someone's going to get fired over this. I'd hate to have to walk into work. Imagine the chaos. |
| 16:39.00 | ^Migs^ | s/walk into work/walk into work on this/ |
| 16:40.21 | Supaplex | fun^3 |
| 16:44.17 | Jayce^ | Supaplex, sounds like they need a good billing system ;-p |
| 16:45.02 | Supaplex | you mean, a better one |
| 16:45.21 | Supaplex | but yea :) |
| 16:46.06 | Sargun | bonez39, have you formulated a plan yet? |
| 16:46.20 | bonez39 | Sargun: welll, I am hunting around on the web..... |
| 16:46.34 | bonez39 | going to keep searching...calling a few BIOS places... |
| 16:47.24 | Supaplex | if the chip is removeable, there's a good chance it could be programmed out of system |
| 16:48.07 | Sargun | Just replace the mobo |
| 16:49.09 | Supaplex | fungus: 18h later, ping :) |
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| 16:53.36 | fungus | ~pong Supaplex |
| 16:53.37 | ibot | Supaplex: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:54.49 | Supaplex | fungus: still knee deep in solaris today? |
| 16:55.15 | fungus | Yup. Absolutely love ZFS, but hate Solaris'isms |
| 16:55.34 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 16:56.21 | bonez39 | Sargun: just like that? |
| 16:56.38 | ^Migs^ | has anyone obtained an Asus Eee yet? |
| 16:58.01 | herlo | yup |
| 16:58.08 | herlo | c |
| 17:00.01 | ^Migs^ | do you think a bunch of them would be useful in a school? Are there any companies who'll give me one for free for educational demoing? |
| 17:00.08 | ^Migs^ | that would be awesome |
| 17:02.55 | Jayce^ | fungus, you see the zfs code for mac was released? |
| 17:03.22 | fungus | Nice, that sounds like a lot of fun. |
| 17:03.53 | findlay | ^Migs^: I'm typing on one right now |
| 17:04.26 | fungus | I got one of these at work a few weeks ago. |
| 17:04.27 | fungus | http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/ |
| 17:04.27 | elg | Jayce^: is it stable? |
| 17:05.15 | findlay | ^Migs^: there's more madness in my brother's district IT dept |
| 17:06.07 | Jayce^ | supposedly |
| 17:06.18 | findlay | aside from only allowing him *25 MiB* for web hosting (and of course, because it's school related he can't go and host it somewhere else even though it's for his master's degree) |
| 17:06.46 | findlay | they told him that he can no longer hook up his Mac laptop to the network |
| 17:07.00 | findlay | because it was a security risk :-D |
| 17:07.48 | findlay | so now he has to keep duplicate copies of all his administrative work on his laptop and on his school (windows) desktop |
| 17:07.57 | elg | Jayce^: is there stable linux support for zfs? |
| 17:08.22 | findlay | ^Migs^: you should rally a posse and go in there and take them down |
| 17:09.18 | Jayce^ | elg, dunno, ask torriem |
| 17:11.00 | elg | what about windows? |
| 17:11.44 | elg | and write |
| 17:11.54 | findlay | what is it about public education in the US? You bring a pearing knife with your lunch and you get expelled? Education must be the new fascism |
| 17:12.14 | elg | paring knife you mean |
| 17:12.23 | findlay | heh |
| 17:12.46 | elg | it's not public education. it's public paranoia. primary education happens to be one of the prime outlets |
| 17:13.51 | pelaofeliz | I dunno -- I think the educators are at least as much victims as anyone |
| 17:14.25 | pelaofeliz | the threat of lawsuits against public education is crazy |
| 17:14.44 | pelaofeliz | their paranoia is a trained response, I think |
| 17:14.46 | findlay | well, whoever maintains 'discipline' in public schools seems to be very overzealous |
| 17:15.05 | pelaofeliz | findlay: I agree |
| 17:16.11 | findlay | 'the intarwebs are nemesis to our staid decorums! They will promulgate anarchy unabated! We must protect our urchins from the threat of big, bad network.' |
| 17:18.37 | thaddeusq | findlay: reference for paring knife story? |
| 17:20.11 | Sargun | heh @ australians |
| 17:20.12 | Sargun | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc3dHgIrvIE |
| 17:20.36 | findlay | are you in the grub prompt? When I was a senior in HS I heard a story of a girl whose family had just moved and she drove to school. A butter knife fell out of one of the moving boxes into the car, which a school administrator happened to see walking by her car. The girl was then expelled |
| 17:20.52 | findlay | s/are you etc.// |
| 17:22.42 | Supaplex | I'm glad i've been done with public school now. I'm sure my electronics projects would have been intrepreted as some kind of bomb mechanism :P |
| 17:23.39 | findlay | heh |
| 17:23.58 | diesel_ | rsimpkins: just got your email about WestHost...very good explanation. I probably would have just told him that it is a nightmare to work for, but some people are sick and like to live in a nightmare. |
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| 17:27.04 | Supaplex | years ago, the librarian paniced when I was pressing the num lock key rapidly. I was trying to figure out if the keyboard controller was locked up (usually a pretty good indication the machine is locked up dead). She said "Don't press that! I don't know what it'll do!". I wonder if she would have fainted, or had a heart attack on the spot if I reacted just right. >:) instead I gave up and left. I could have died of laughter that day. |
| 17:27.33 | maquis | doh |
| 17:27.44 | maquis | what's the ubuntu-utah channel again? |
| 17:28.06 | maquis | oh... nm... apparently that's not the one i'm missing |
| 17:35.13 | Sargun | I dislike OpenLDAP |
| 17:35.30 | fungus | What is a good alternative to OpenLDAP? |
| 17:35.38 | Sargun | I don't know yet. |
| 17:35.49 | Sargun | NIS is ancient and dying |
| 17:35.57 | Sargun | What else is there? |
| 17:35.58 | Supaplex | MyVeryFirstLDAP? |
| 17:35.59 | mrpull | Sargun: active directory |
| 17:36.05 | fungus | I dislike OpenLDAP too, but haven't found anything better |
| 17:36.18 | fungus | Ick I *hate* AD |
| 17:36.20 | mrpull | Sargun: fedora directory server looks interesting |
| 17:36.31 | bonez39 | Sargun: I am calling HP back for a second time.....to see if I can get them to replace the motherboard.. |
| 17:36.34 | mrpull | or whatever it is called these days |
| 17:36.48 | Sargun | bonez39, they'll probably charge you a large amount of cash. |
| 17:36.53 | Sargun | mrpull, eww. |
| 17:36.57 | fungus | FDS sounds great if your running Fedora, but not anywhere else. |
| 17:37.07 | fungus | lol, FDS... |
| 17:37.11 | Sargun | mrpull, findlay Issue with OpenLDAP is that its difficult to install, and Go |
| 17:37.31 | rsimpkins | diesel: Are you going to respond to the thread? |
| 17:38.03 | mrpull | why isn't FDS well suited for distro's other than fedora? doesn't its roots predate fedora? |
| 17:39.10 | fungus | It's roots predate Fedora, but only to RedHat |
| 17:39.19 | fungus | which is the same thing IMHO |
| 17:39.26 | mrpull | was it not a Netscape product? |
| 17:39.31 | mrpull | maybe I'm confused |
| 17:42.29 | goozbach | methinks it's partially Novell Directory Service |
| 17:43.03 | jsmith | I thought Red Hat bought it from Netscape and then worked on open-sourcing it |
| 17:43.12 | jsmith | But my memory could be completely wrong |
| 17:44.18 | mrpull | its wikipedia page describes it lineage... it was Netscape for some time |
| 17:44.40 | mrpull | I don't think any eDirectory got mixed in |
| 17:45.03 | mrpull | though both products being called NDS could cause confusion |
| 17:48.24 | bonez39 | Sargun: I am pushing the issue with them, that their site instructions for my specific machine...clearly said to download their bios flash update..run it and it would upgrade the BIOS....therefore, they should be on the hook for a replacement... |
| 17:48.40 | bonez39 | or they could at least send me a new bios chip, or motherboard.... |
| 17:49.11 | bonez39 | I realize it is contrary to their business model.....of replacing it with a new machine...... |
| 17:49.23 | Sargun | or being nice... |
| 17:50.44 | elg | is there a way to tell OOo to NEVER print headers or footers unless I ask for them? |
| 17:50.50 | bonez39 | I am trying to be nice.....and calm..... |
| 17:50.56 | elg | I'm sick of going into page layout and disabling headers and footers |
| 17:52.13 | bonez39 | elg: ever use mailmerge with OO? I find it is improving with each OO release....but still not as simple as it could be |
| 17:54.08 | pelaofeliz | elg: I think there's a template for for all documents. If you edit the template, all new docs should have no headers/footers |
| 18:00.07 | findlay | mecworks: when's the SLLUG metting? |
| 18:00.40 | mecworks | It's tomorrow night. |
| 18:00.47 | sjansen | thaddeusq! |
| 18:00.49 | mecworks | I'll be putting out the announcement soon |
| 18:00.59 | thaddeusq | sjansen! |
| 18:05.54 | mecworks | findlay: I'm waiting on a response from a person who has an OLPC XO. If he can bring it and talk about it, I'll make the announcement today. |
| 18:06.23 | findlay | mecworks: I've got an eeepc I could bring if I can make it |
| 18:07.53 | ^Migs^ | http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/industries/technology/article/press-release-apple-announces-time-capsule_437545_12.html |
| 18:08.03 | ^Migs^ | Apple(R: 45.78, -0.22, -0.47%) today introduced Time Capsule, a backup appliance that automatically and wirelessly backs up everything on one or more Macs running Leopard |
| 18:08.14 | ^Migs^ | "Bring Time Capsule home, plug it in, click a few buttons on your Macs and voila -- all the Macs in your house are being backed up automatically, every hour of every day," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. |
| 18:09.28 | mecworks | findlay: that would be awesome if you can bring that too. I'll mention both in the announcement and if you can make it, we can talk about it and show it off. |
| 18:09.31 | diesel | rsimpkins: I started to respond, and then could all my head started sweating and the thoughts of holding a gun came to mind, so I might pass. |
| 18:09.55 | diesel | rsimpkins: s/could all// |
| 18:09.57 | findlay | mecworks: what time? |
| 18:10.32 | mecworks | 7:10pm in the EMCB, 101. That building now has a different name but it's the same place we always meet. |
| 18:10.38 | mecworks | at the U |
| 18:10.44 | findlay | same room? |
| 18:11.22 | mecworks | Yeah. We usually reserve 101. If not, we'll have signs on the right one - usually next door. |
| 18:11.45 | rsimpkins | diesel: It might help the guy know that it isn't just one disgruntled guy. he doesn't know me very well. |
| 18:11.58 | rsimpkins | diesel: But yeah, I had the same problem. :) |
| 18:13.59 | findlay | mecworks: I probably couldn't make it until 7:40 |
| 18:14.40 | findlay | actually, no probably like half an hour after that |
| 18:14.45 | mecworks | That's OK. If the guy with the XO is there, he can take the first part and we can finish up the eeepc if you're there. |
| 18:14.54 | findlay | I have an evening class Wednesdays |
| 18:15.00 | mecworks | ic |
| 18:15.09 | rsimpkins | mecworks: Hey Marc, do you think there is any value in cross-posting PLUG/SLLUG meeting announcments? |
| 18:15.47 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, there is |
| 18:15.54 | mecworks | rsimpkins: it happens a lot. But actually a lot of our members are already on both lists. I'm guessing about half or so. |
| 18:15.55 | findlay | I couldn't make it until about 8:30 |
| 18:16.06 | findlay | that's probably too late |
| 18:16.10 | rsimpkins | mecworks: Good guess - http://www.plug.org/node/69 |
| 18:16.15 | findlay | tell herlo to bring his :) |
| 18:16.26 | rsimpkins | mecworks: Except it might be maybe 30%-40%. |
| 18:16.56 | findlay | mecworks: I don't think I could make it early enough |
| 18:17.06 | mecworks | herlo: you have an eeepc you can bring to SLLUG tomorrow night? |
| 18:17.23 | rsimpkins | Someone brought one to PLUG last week. |
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| 18:50.06 | ^Migs^ | late response: <findlay> well, whoever maintains 'discipline' in public schools seems to be very overzealous <--- I disagree. It's just those few nutty administrators who make it to the news who make everyone else look bad. Most admins I've seen in our district at least are very capable and fair at handling discipline |
| 18:50.59 | findlay | ^Migs^: well, did you see my comments about my brother's district IT? :) |
| 18:51.57 | findlay | all part of the same fantasyland thinking IMO |
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| 18:56.59 | ^Migs^ | what fantasyland thinking? I missed that part. |
| 18:57.32 | herlo | mecworks: I'm in Raleigh |
| 18:57.37 | herlo | mecworks: or I would |
| 18:58.02 | mecworks | herlo: hm.... that's quite a commute. So, you don't think you can make it eh? :) |
| 18:58.14 | herlo | mecworks: I'd like to know if we could maybe come up and record the meeting though? Or is it going to be more of a hack/look fest |
| 18:58.34 | herlo | there are people in the state that own one, just don't know if they are in town or not |
| 18:58.37 | herlo | another is Zelut |
| 18:58.44 | findlay | ^Migs^: the nutty admins that think they can/should micromanage the students' lives and education |
| 18:58.48 | herlo | he owns a olpc and an eeep c |
| 18:59.02 | herlo | mecworks: if you move the meeting to next Thursday, I could make it |
| 18:59.05 | herlo | :) |
| 18:59.11 | mecworks | herlo: well, right now I'm actually just trying to get a presentation together. It definitely looks unorganized at the moment. |
| 18:59.11 | herlo | and I am sure Zelut could too |
| 18:59.40 | mecworks | hm. I don't know if we can do that on such short notice.... that would be nice though |
| 18:59.43 | herlo | mecworks: the recording is doable either way, just better if its a presentation |
| 19:00.33 | findlay | ^Migs^: not to mention the teachers |
| 19:00.45 | findlay | (admins micromanaging the teachers) |
| 19:01.03 | findlay | if I had to put up with as much as my dad has I would have quit years ago :) |
| 19:04.08 | ^Migs^ | that drives me nuts too, findlay |
| 19:04.50 | ^Migs^ | as far as I'm concerned, what students do in their personal time is their own business. I think it's good to see what students are doing so teachers can identify students who may need help or may be having problems, but when they use that for disciplinary action they're overreaching their bounds. |
| 19:05.22 | ^Migs^ | many schools need to make more of an effort to get parents involved. They have PTA and stuff like that, but they could always be doing more. |
| 19:06.14 | ^Migs^ | that's the BEST way to help students improve. If the parents aren't on board, it becomes increasingly unlikely the students will try to improve their school performance, stay out of trouble, etc. |
| 19:07.50 | ^Migs^ | that's just my opinion, at least |
| 19:08.10 | findlay | well I just find the paranoia that corrupts education alarming, repulsive, and highly amusing |
| 19:10.05 | unum | ya me too |
| 19:10.35 | findlay | :) |
| 19:12.14 | elg | anyone know a 1-page (or even better, 1/2 page) emacs quick reference that has just the stuff you need to edit a file, and doesn't go on about how to switch into such-and-such useless mode or other extraneous confusing info |
| 19:12.15 | elg | ? |
| 19:13.02 | herlo | mecworks: well, let me know |
| 19:15.23 | vontrapp | elg: alias emacs vim |
| 19:15.32 | vontrapp | that's only one line! |
| 19:18.52 | mecworks | herlo: k. thanks |
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| 19:35.48 | ^Migs^ | findlay: so do most in the education field, I've found |
| 19:40.29 | ^Migs^ | that comes from eavesdropping on a ton of conversations in the teacher lounge |
| 19:40.31 | ^Migs^ | :) |
| 19:41.16 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_are_we_giving_the |
| 19:41.25 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 19:45.52 | vontrapp | mmmmm, that was sosooooo goood! |
| 19:45.58 | vontrapp | burgegger ftw |
| 19:46.49 | Zelut | herlo: what could i do? |
| 19:46.52 | Supaplex | bur-geg-ger? |
| 19:48.04 | vontrapp | burg-egg-er |
| 19:48.15 | vontrapp | shameless ripoff of the red robin royal burger |
| 19:48.27 | vontrapp | yum yum |
| 19:48.40 | Supaplex | ahh |
| 20:02.55 | ^Migs^ | there's about 10 toddlers in my house right now. |
| 20:03.07 | ^Migs^ | it was my wife's turn to host her weekly playgroup. I can't wait to get home and see the damage. |
| 20:33.13 | herlo | Zelut: if you have your eeep and your olpc at home, you could let mecworks use them at SLLUG on Thursday |
| 20:33.52 | Zelut | herlo: i have my eeepc with me, but the olpc is at home.. haven't used it in quite a while now. |
| 20:36.02 | herlo | Zelut: yeah, kinda figured, mecworks was just looking to borrow one for sllug |
| 20:39.15 | Sargun | XFS + This array = Orgasmic |
| 20:39.28 | Sargun | 10 MB/sec read speed |
| 20:39.28 | herlo | ~lart Sargun |
| 20:39.28 | ibot | lowers Sargun's priority |
| 20:39.33 | Sargun | er |
| 20:39.37 | Sargun | 10,000 MB/sec read speed |
| 20:39.40 | Sargun | (buffered) |
| 20:39.45 | Sargun | Non-buffered 200 MB/sec |
| 20:40.06 | Sargun | online defrags, freezing, growing |
| 20:42.51 | Sargun | ^Migs^, brace yourself! |
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| 20:49.52 | Sargun | I love how by default in older versions windows you didn't even have to have admin to remotely shutdown a system |
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| 20:57.06 | unum | I'm such an idiot |
| 20:57.33 | unum | one of my coworkers daughter's found a cat |
| 20:57.46 | unum | she was convinced it had been abandonned |
| 20:58.09 | unum | I took it to be spayed turns out it's a neutered male with a chip |
| 20:58.41 | Supaplex | o.O |
| 21:08.47 | thaddeusq | unum: so did it find its rightful owner? |
| 21:11.10 | unum | they're working on it now |
| 21:11.18 | unum | I've had the cat for two and half months |
| 21:11.26 | unum | I feel bad for having stole someone's cat |
| 21:15.03 | Supaplex | ^Migs^: http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7842/snnnewsfeedvy3.jpg |
| 21:16.06 | Sargun | SFW? |
| 21:16.21 | Sargun | unum, hwo does that involve you? |
| 21:16.25 | Sargun | ah |
| 21:16.27 | Sargun | you stole it |
| 21:16.41 | Sargun | Why did it take you 2.5 months to figure this out |
| 21:17.10 | Supaplex | stolen pets are hard to part with? |
| 21:17.27 | Sargun | heh |
| 21:17.49 | Supaplex | can't let go... must.. loosen death grip ... on .. pet . |
| 21:18.15 | Supaplex | so unum needs a support group? |
| 21:18.50 | unum | vet just called. owners don't want it back |
| 21:18.51 | unum | it's mine |
| 21:18.58 | Supaplex | hah :P |
| 21:20.09 | unum | next time someone tries to pawn an abandonned pet off on me I'll take it to the vet first thing |
| 21:20.24 | thaddeusq | so apparently it WAS abandoned? |
| 21:25.37 | Supaplex | unum: reminds me of http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21630524-5007061,00.html |
| 21:25.43 | brac | [AdelaideNow... Dog-sheep swap scam or sham?] |
| 21:25.49 | unum | I guess so |
| 21:29.49 | goozbach | any svn gurus around? |
| 21:30.03 | goozbach | how do I merge a sub-tree of a repo to another repo? |
| 21:30.18 | goozbach | eg I've been commiting a great deal of code into repo A/foo |
| 21:30.33 | goozbach | and I want to merge it into repo B/bar/foo |
| 21:30.50 | Jayce^ | Supaplex, spinning pinwheel of happiness (TM) |
| 21:31.17 | unum | Supaplex: there's also this coverage -> http://www.snopes.com/critters/lurkers/poodlesheep.asp |
| 21:31.23 | brac | [Urban Legends Reference Pages: Sheep Sold as Poodles] |
| 21:31.38 | jsmith | goozbach: Hmmmn... sounds like you need to read up on svn:externa |
| 21:31.46 | jsmith | goozbach: svn:external, that is |
| 21:32.56 | goozbach | svn:external? |
| 21:33.05 | Supaplex | unum: heh cool. |
| 21:33.51 | Supaplex | atleast it was entertaining. |
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| 21:34.13 | goozbach | jsmith: I only need to do it once |
| 21:34.30 | goozbach | ie I was using the wrong repo in A/foo |
| 21:34.47 | goozbach | do I just checkout that directory into my new repository? |
| 21:35.06 | jsmith | That'll work |
| 21:35.43 | goozbach | each subsiquent checkout of repo B will have the proper code? |
| 21:35.53 | goozbach | and all the history? |
| 21:36.18 | jsmith | Oh, you want *history* with that? |
| 21:37.52 | goozbach | yes please? *innocent shrug* |
| 21:38.18 | mecworks | findlay, if we move the meeing to next Wednesday would you be able to make it? You probably still have class. Anyone else that could make it with an XO and/or eeepc next wednesday? |
| 21:39.18 | mecworks | Zelut: if we move the SLLUG meeting to next Wednesday, do you think you could be there with your XO and eeepc? |
| 21:41.27 | Zelut | mecworks: probably, i'll actually be in town. |
| 21:45.00 | mecworks | Zelut: would you be up for showing off the two next week? |
| 21:45.30 | goozbach | trying to shoehorn my SCM knowledge into the mindspace of Subversion is killing me. |
| 21:45.47 | Zelut | mecworks: sure why not |
| 21:45.51 | goozbach | things I take for granted in tla and bzr are what I'm missing |
| 21:46.53 | mecworks | Zelut: OK. that would be great. Can I put you on the agenda for next week then? And then I'll move the meeting to next week. |
| 21:47.37 | Zelut | mecworks: yeah, shoot me an email if you would as a reminder. christer.edwards@ubuntu.com |
| 21:47.55 | mecworks | Great! Thanks tons. |
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| 22:14.21 | Sargun | Defrag is neat!!! |
| 22:15.01 | Supaplex | why defrag when you can respawn? |
| 22:31.59 | bonez39 | what prevent's fragmentation.......on ext2, 3, etc....compared with fat or ntfs? |
| 23:10.01 | goozbach | redbeard2: ping |
| 23:10.22 | Supaplex | jsmith-away: have fun |
| 23:13.04 | Jayce^ | who let redbeard2 in here? |
| 23:15.59 | findlay | mecworks: yeah, I wouldn't be able to make it then either |
| 23:18.25 | mecworks | findlay: yeah, I noticed you wouldn't be able to be there until Thursday. |
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| 23:36.29 | findlay | ~date |
| 23:36.30 | ibot | It is now 2008.01.15 23:36:30 GMT |
| 23:47.28 | Sargun | uh |
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| 23:56.15 | vontrapp | i have a script that does [^-]*) in a case statement |
| 23:56.35 | vontrapp | and aparently bash thinks [^-] means ^ or - instead of "not -" |
| 23:58.39 | mrpull | the - in a [ ] usually denotes a range |
| 23:58.45 | mrpull | maybe escape it? |
| 23:58.53 | vontrapp | the ^ in a range usually denotes negation |
| 23:59.02 | vontrapp | s/range/[]/ |
| 23:59.22 | mrpull | so try [^\-] |
| 23:59.55 | mrpull | looking at the oreilly pocket refference it says put the - as the first character as you said... |
| 23:59.56 | vontrapp | nope |
