| 00:15.13 | Kemotaha | rsimpkins: ping |
| 00:18.50 | herlo | ~buy fozzmoo laptop |
| 00:18.51 | ibot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen laptops for fozzmoo |
| 00:20.16 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: Pong |
| 00:21.42 | Kemotaha | rsimpkins: when do you want your banner? Jayce^ told me to bring it to you tonight |
| 00:22.25 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: Just when ever you get here is fine. |
| 00:22.35 | Kemotaha | ok, I should be on time |
| 00:22.46 | rsimpkins | Cool. |
| 00:26.23 | bmidgley | plug meeting tonight eh? |
| 00:28.28 | rsimpkins | bmidgley: Yup, are you coming? |
| 00:29.17 | bmidgley | rsimpkins yeah. omniture at 7:30? |
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| 00:29.28 | rsimpkins | bmidgley: Yes. |
| 00:29.35 | bmidgley | ok |
| 00:29.41 | rsimpkins | I'm getting stuff ready now. |
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| 01:06.22 | Kemotaha | rsimpkins: is there going to be food there? |
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| 01:10.58 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: Nope, sorry - no one wanted to buy food tonight. |
| 01:11.23 | rsimpkins | Hopefully we can keep attendance to meetings up so we can start to get those kinds of things. |
| 01:11.47 | Kemotaha | no worries, thought I would ask, decide whether I need to eat before coming or not :) |
| 01:12.22 | rsimpkins | I usually try to have a snack at least. |
| 01:29.10 | levi | Gah, my camera isn't scheduled to arrive until next wednesday! Does it really take a week to ship something from NJ? |
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| 01:40.12 | herlo | rsimpkins: k |
| 01:40.25 | herlo | rsimpkins: fozz is on his way and will be recording it |
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| 01:43.03 | herlo | rsimpkins: he'll be a bit late probably though, what time are you thinking of starting? |
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| 01:47.53 | mrpull-lt | is plug streaming tonight? |
| 01:48.27 | herlo | probably not |
| 01:48.40 | mrpull-lt | i'd love to attend, but i ended up in NC this week |
| 01:48.50 | mrpull-lt | herlo: aren't you in the RDU area this week too? |
| 01:48.50 | herlo | mrpull-lt: where? I am in NC |
| 01:48.57 | mrpull-lt | i'm in cary |
| 01:49.02 | mrpull-lt | not far from raleigh |
| 01:49.04 | herlo | yeah, staying at the Clarion downtown... |
| 01:49.13 | herlo | I have an idea where Cary is |
| 01:49.13 | mrpull-lt | i'm right by the airport |
| 01:49.14 | Supaplex | too bad my powershot camera comes just short of raw capture, or I might be able to do it from my ibook. |
| 01:49.40 | herlo | you could come to dinner with me and a couple gurus tomorrow night if you like? |
| 01:49.40 | mrpull-lt | you drive by cary to get to raleigh from RDU |
| 01:50.08 | mrpull-lt | i've got dinner plans. do you guys go for drinks after? |
| 01:50.08 | herlo | :) |
| 01:50.21 | mrpull-lt | (milk or soda or whatever?) |
| 01:50.21 | herlo | the others don't, but I'd be up for it |
| 01:50.23 | herlo | right |
| 01:50.38 | herlo | then they might, but dinner will be late for me anyay |
| 01:50.39 | mrpull-lt | i'm on friday morning's 7AM back to SLC |
| 01:50.40 | herlo | anyway |
| 01:51.02 | mrpull-lt | i'll drop in #utah tomorrow and see what you guys are up to |
| 01:51.09 | herlo | k, ping me |
| 01:51.21 | mrpull-lt | i've meant to drive by the redhat campus just for kicks |
| 01:51.22 | mrpull-lt | but never have |
| 01:51.30 | herlo | its not too far |
| 01:51.41 | herlo | 20 mins from RDU |
| 01:51.50 | herlo | and if you like, I can give you a little tour, |
| 01:52.08 | herlo | I'm not going to be able to do a whole lot, but some |
| 01:52.18 | mrpull-lt | maybe i can wiggle out of dinner with my boss tomorrow :) |
| 01:52.29 | Tene | Maybe I can swap with jphall the first week of next month. |
| 01:52.33 | herlo | its fine either way |
| 01:52.41 | herlo | Tene: for? |
| 01:52.48 | Tene | herlo: raleigh |
| 01:52.55 | herlo | :) |
| 01:52.55 | Tene | oh, houston |
| 01:53.02 | herlo | raleigh is warm |
| 01:53.36 | herlo | whole foods is where its at for dinner |
| 01:53.56 | mrpull-lt | the raleigh area is alright. i usually make a trip to ruth's chris while i'm here. |
| 01:54.03 | mrpull-lt | there is one right by my hotel. |
| 01:54.04 | herlo | just had one of the best blueberry cobblers I've ever had |
| 01:54.15 | herlo | ruths chris are everywhere though |
| 01:54.26 | mrpull-lt | yeah, but it is "free" here |
| 01:54.32 | herlo | yeah, true |
| 01:54.38 | herlo | guess I travel a bit more than you |
| 01:54.49 | mrpull-lt | yeah. i'm only out about a week a quarter. |
| 01:54.57 | mrpull-lt | i couldn't do the guru life. |
| 01:54.59 | goozbach | well looks maybe for this weekend |
| 01:55.09 | mrpull-lt | 3 kids - 3 and under |
| 01:55.17 | herlo | yeah |
| 01:55.23 | mrpull-lt | that'd be a swift ticket for a divorce for me |
| 01:55.49 | herlo | since I'm already divorced, it makes that an easy pitch to the non-existan si0 |
| 01:55.51 | herlo | sig0 |
| 01:56.32 | mrpull-lt | i think i've done about 75K sky miles in the last year... much more than i ever have in the past |
| 01:56.36 | mrpull-lt | i'd rather not be on the road |
| 01:59.05 | herlo | yeah, that's a lot, I did close to 90 |
| 01:59.12 | herlo | still more than I'd like |
| 01:59.21 | herlo | I'm planning on barely hitting platinum this year |
| 01:59.51 | mrpull-lt | those are based on YTD accumulation right? |
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| 02:00.41 | Tene | coi ti`ocpi |
| 02:00.50 | ti`ocpi | coi Tene |
| 02:01.07 | mrpull-lt | i seem to remember i did about 45K in the last half of 2006, and then another 60 or so in the first half of 2007... only got silver so far |
| 02:01.15 | mrpull-lt | but i've had a heck of a run of free upgrades |
| 02:01.42 | mrpull-lt | i think i'm 8 for 8 of my last flights (of course excluding my vegas trip on SWA) |
| 02:02.00 | herlo | mrpull-lt: you won't get platinum for this year it sounds like, but ye |
| 02:02.02 | herlo | hey |
| 02:02.15 | herlo | SWA - mooo |
| 02:02.18 | herlo | cattle call! |
| 02:02.32 | mrpull-lt | i hope not to get gold this year :) |
| 02:02.42 | herlo | :) |
| 02:02.49 | herlo | or you'll die |
| 02:03.38 | rsimpkins | herlo: We start at 7:30 - still got some setup to do. |
| 02:03.54 | herlo | k, not sure if fozzmoo will be there in time |
| 02:04.13 | wps | it's getting quiet for the night in #uphpu… can anyone answer a PHP/Apache question? |
| 02:04.31 | wps | I thought that a file with script code in it has to have executable permissions in order for Apache to serve it up |
| 02:04.31 | herlo | was thinking you could delay a little |
| 02:04.46 | herlo | rsimpkins: maybe hang out downstairs a bit longer, etc... |
| 02:04.53 | wps | I have a files that are only 611 though that contain PHP that Apache is parsing and server |
| 02:04.55 | wps | serving |
| 02:05.25 | wps | what's the point of the executable permission? |
| 02:06.04 | wps | is parsing and serving through Apache different from executing and therefore not governed by that? |
| 02:06.47 | mrpull-lt | wps: i'm rusty, but my recollection is that the execute perm is not needed |
| 02:07.27 | Tene | wps: execitable is needed for cgi but not for php |
| 02:07.34 | wps | ah… thanks |
| 02:07.59 | wps | is there a way to prevent files containing PHP from being executed in a certain dir? |
| 02:09.07 | wps | I want PHP to be able to read from this dir (images, PDFs, etc), but not execute PHP files |
| 02:09.18 | Tene | wps: redefine the handler for php5-script in a <Location> section, maybe |
| 02:09.35 | mrpull-lt | wps: i concur with tene |
| 02:09.49 | wps | I wonder if I could do it with a mod-rewrite :) |
| 02:10.10 | wps | send all requests for files that end in .html and .php in said dir to something else |
| 02:10.12 | Tene | *my* solution is just to not even install php. |
| 02:10.13 | wps | that would work :) |
| 02:10.14 | Tene | >.> |
| 02:12.17 | Supaplex | php? what's php? is that the dilluted and broken perl? |
| 02:12.35 | Supaplex | </taunt> |
| 02:13.13 | Tene | Supaplex: *real* programmers don't *need* namespaces. |
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| 02:16.12 | Supaplex | haha |
| 02:46.02 | findlay | hello |
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| 03:04.24 | levi | findlay: Hi. |
| 03:04.53 | findlay | ~hi levi |
| 03:04.53 | ibot | Many greetings, levi, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 03:05.14 | levi | findlay: Are you at PLUG? |
| 03:05.29 | findlay | oh |
| 03:05.33 | findlay | I forgot :( |
| 03:05.38 | levi | Whoops. |
| 03:05.43 | findlay | besides, I have lots of homework |
| 03:05.51 | levi | Already, eh? |
| 03:06.17 | findlay | yup |
| 03:06.24 | levi | What classes? |
| 03:06.45 | findlay | math 2210,2270,2280 |
| 03:06.54 | levi | Oh, yow. |
| 03:06.59 | levi | What are those? |
| 03:07.22 | findlay | calculus III, linear algebra, ODEs |
| 03:07.49 | levi | Sounds like you're going to have a lot of homework all semester. |
| 03:07.54 | findlay | yeah |
| 03:08.13 | levi | Me too, really, but at least my homework is writing code. :) |
| 03:08.52 | findlay | could be good or bad unlessyou really like learning code |
| 03:08.59 | findlay | s/ss/ss / |
| 03:09.19 | findlay | s/learning/writing/ |
| 03:09.44 | levi | Well, the nice part is that it will be code that does really interesting things. |
| 03:09.51 | levi | Like OS guts and a compiler. |
| 03:10.02 | findlay | what was that new language you were talking about recently? |
| 03:10.08 | levi | Scala |
| 03:10.20 | findlay | hm, maybe it was elg |
| 03:10.42 | levi | What do you recall about this language? |
| 03:10.51 | findlay | not much |
| 03:11.31 | levi | Can't help you much, then. :) |
| 03:11.48 | sjansen | rsimpkins: Will we be getting a copy of the slides? |
| 03:12.41 | findlay | ah. It was pjw |
| 03:12.59 | findlay | levi: http://iolanguage.com/about/ |
| 03:13.01 | brac | [io - about] |
| 03:13.23 | levi | Ahh, io. |
| 03:18.43 | levi | Looks like fun, but not what I need right now. :) |
| 03:18.57 | levi | In fact, I'm thinking Scala is not exactly what I need right now, either. |
| 03:19.15 | sjansen | Haskell? |
| 03:19.18 | findlay | what you need is ... FORTRAN |
| 03:19.20 | levi | I may switch to Scheme or ML, which are both way simpler, and I'm more familiar with them. |
| 03:19.34 | findlay | levi: ML as in vanilla ML? |
| 03:19.37 | levi | I'm not going to write a compiler in FORTRAN |
| 03:19.46 | findlay | how many ML derivatives are there out there? |
| 03:19.53 | levi | findlay: Either SML or OCaml |
| 03:19.57 | findlay | ok |
| 03:20.00 | sjansen | But FORTRAN is all about creating DSLs! |
| 03:20.08 | findlay | that's a little more understandable for me |
| 03:20.13 | levi | Those are the major variants, but there are a few more, like AliceML. |
| 03:20.30 | levi | SML is 'vanilla' ML, though. |
| 03:20.54 | levi | Haskell would be cool, if I already knew it. |
| 03:21.31 | levi | I don't think I have enough time to learn Haskell and write a compiler with it that looks like what my teacher is expecting. |
| 03:21.31 | findlay | well if Haskell can (famously) handle perl6, it can probably handle whatever your class wants you to implement :) |
| 03:21.56 | sjansen | Learning Haskell is not a project for a single weekend. |
| 03:22.09 | levi | Haskell (and Scala, I'm discovering) is all about parser combinators. |
| 03:22.28 | levi | I'm going to implement a lexer and a LL(2) parser. |
| 03:23.55 | findlay | levi: how good does MPI make concurrency work in C? |
| 03:24.00 | findlay | C/C++? |
| 03:24.30 | levi | Pretty well, considering you're still using C. |
| 03:24.36 | findlay | heh |
| 03:24.44 | levi | Most HPC clusters run MPI-based programs. |
| 03:25.52 | findlay | there's a guy in the physics dept at UVSC that wants to run a cluster of pIII's on some clustering version of FC5 |
| 03:26.48 | levi | Probably a reasonable thing to do if his objective is teaching people how to write physics simulations like they do it in the real world. |
| 03:27.24 | findlay | he's just a student, though |
| 03:27.28 | levi | Setting up and maintaining a cluster gets to be pretty difficult if it gets large, though. |
| 03:27.34 | findlay | probably just as an exercise |
| 03:27.47 | levi | Oh. Well, still a reasonable thing if he wants to go into that kind of thing. |
| 03:27.52 | findlay | yeah |
| 03:28.08 | levi | If it's a student, I don't imagine it'll be very large. :) |
| 03:28.21 | findlay | about 8-9 b0xen |
| 03:32.16 | levi | Sounds manageable, but it may be surprising to him how much noise, heat, and electricity will be involved. :) |
| 03:33.36 | goozbach | where does debian store the "hardware to eth*" information? |
| 03:33.50 | goozbach | I've got an interface which WAS eth0, now it's come up as eth1 |
| 03:34.02 | findlay | goozbach: usually in /etc/network I think |
| 03:34.05 | goozbach | is there a place a mac address or something is stored? |
| 03:34.20 | goozbach | findlay: /etc/network/interfaces is correct |
| 03:34.23 | levi | I think it's a module loading order issue, or something like that. |
| 03:34.29 | goozbach | the device SHOULD be eth0 |
| 03:34.39 | goozbach | but on this last boot it came up eth1 |
| 03:34.43 | levi | Are both of them using the same chipset? |
| 03:34.55 | goozbach | levi: it's the only nic |
| 03:34.58 | levi | Has your kernel config changed since the last reboot? |
| 03:35.12 | goozbach | yes, I updated the machine with an image |
| 03:35.47 | goozbach | I think I know what happened. |
| 03:35.48 | levi | Well, if there's an eth1, it thinks there's also an eth0, so you might try looking at why that happened. |
| 03:36.00 | goozbach | this is a clone via system-imager |
| 03:36.18 | goozbach | and I didn't do an apt-get upgrade after the initial install |
| 03:37.32 | goozbach | so i'm doing it now to see if it'll come back |
| 03:39.21 | goozbach | grr and it's slow to get to the console... |
| 03:39.21 | goozbach | rdesktop to xensource console |
| 03:39.21 | levi | Heh. |
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| 04:20.15 | tensai | goozbach: I've seen that happen before but I've never figured out why |
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| 04:30.21 | Sargun | I wish discovery would offer downloads of mythbusters |
| 04:30.44 | Sargun | I wonder what discoveries current licensing fees are for Comcastic |
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| 05:16.58 | sargun-palm | hey all |
| 05:17.11 | sargun-palm | gah |
| 05:17.20 | sargun-palm | I can't join more than three channels |
| 05:17.24 | sargun-palm | er |
| 05:17.25 | sargun-palm | 2 |
| 05:17.48 | sargun-palm | I should setup my n810 on monday so I can use it here (the gym) |
| 05:22.11 | sargun-palm | so your a nearly blind 16 year old guy, what do your do in your free time? (no offense) |
| 05:22.17 | sargun-palm | er |
| 05:22.21 | sargun-palm | wrong chnanel |
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| 05:26.25 | sargun-palm | lakshmi: sorryz |
| 05:26.39 | Lakshmi | huh? |
| 05:30.31 | atoponce | herlo: ping |
| 05:30.34 | atoponce | herlo: np |
| 05:31.04 | herlo | atoponce: hi |
| 05:31.22 | atoponce | herlo: can you see the guru wifi ssid? |
| 05:31.47 | herlo | yup |
| 05:31.58 | herlo | atoponce: why? |
| 05:32.04 | atoponce | linuxguru is the wpa key. what's the strength? |
| 05:32.06 | atoponce | just curious |
| 05:32.16 | herlo | oh, that? |
| 05:32.27 | herlo | I was thinking you were meaning for GL in Utah |
| 05:32.36 | atoponce | np |
| 05:32.52 | herlo | can't see it on my big lappy |
| 05:33.02 | atoponce | ok. 7 floors is a bit to get through |
| 05:33.11 | herlo | yup |
| 05:33.32 | atoponce | cool. just setup the wifi. was curious if you could see it or not |
| 05:34.01 | herlo | that'd be nice though |
| 05:34.11 | herlo | how'd you do that? |
| 05:34.19 | herlo | is this on your t61? |
| 05:34.35 | atoponce | i have a compact 54g router i take with me |
| 05:34.47 | herlo | oh, right |
| 05:34.48 | herlo | okay |
| 05:39.22 | findlay | ~lart girls |
| 05:39.22 | ibot | takes girls to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 05:39.33 | findlay | ~herlo girls |
| 05:39.34 | ibot | ACTION pokes girls in they eye with a sharp needle |
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| 05:42.45 | sargun-palm | 1.5 miles left! |
| 05:43.07 | findlay | ~convert 1.5 miles to picoparsecs |
| 05:43.38 | findlay | multiplicative identity |
| 05:43.42 | findlay | hmm |
| 05:43.42 | sargun-palm | heh |
| 05:49.06 | findlay | ~random |
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| 06:54.20 | rsimpkins | herlo: fozzmoo got lost or something. He never showed up. |
| 06:54.35 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I think there was a lot of great info on those slides. I'll see what I can do to round them up. |
| 06:54.52 | herlo | rsimpkins: damn! |
| 06:54.59 | herlo | that sucks |
| 06:55.07 | herlo | he must've not been able to leave |
| 06:55.25 | herlo | rsimpkins: how was the meet otherwise? |
| 06:55.45 | rsimpkins | herlo: We had 35 people there. |
| 06:55.53 | herlo | rsimpkins: I think that's plenty |
| 06:55.56 | rsimpkins | herlo: I'm just writting up a follow up e-mail to the group. |
| 06:56.07 | herlo | I failed |
| 06:56.18 | herlo | and I wish I could have come |
| 06:56.20 | rsimpkins | I think we would have had more had it not been for the snow storm. |
| 06:56.32 | herlo | snow storms do that sort of thing :) |
| 06:56.52 | rsimpkins | I'm hoping Matt Asay attracts a crowd. Not every month you get to have a Yale Lawyer talk to you about open source!!! |
| 06:57.27 | herlo | Yeah, it looks like I'll be unable to come to PLUG for a while too |
| 06:58.02 | rsimpkins | herlo: We are still working out the kinks at OMTR honestly. We did better this time I think, but I saw a few things that could have gone smoother. |
| 06:58.05 | herlo | I really am missing out, I hope you and I can get someone to record the meets and stream them... |
| 06:58.17 | herlo | OMTR? |
| 06:58.24 | rsimpkins | herlo: Are you going to have someone e-mail me step-by-step directions. |
| 06:58.31 | rsimpkins | herlo: OMTR is Omniture's stock symbol. |
| 06:58.39 | rsimpkins | Sorry - I use it all the time as a short cut. |
| 06:58.43 | herlo | rsimpkins: it'll be me, but I don't see why you need step by step, its 2 steps |
| 06:58.51 | herlo | install ices, and use the config I send you |
| 06:59.00 | rsimpkins | herlo: Great. That's all I need. :) |
| 06:59.19 | herlo | assuming your machine runs a recent version of linux. Ices2 should be in the repo |
| 06:59.53 | rsimpkins | I'd like to figure out how to get a PA system in there. I had a hard time hearing in the back. Not sure if others did as well. |
| 07:00.16 | herlo | yeah, that's familiar from my presentation too |
| 07:00.25 | herlo | btw, I just mailed the config to you |
| 07:00.30 | herlo | all you have to do is run |
| 07:00.42 | herlo | ices[2] /path/to/ices-plug.xml |
| 07:00.52 | rsimpkins | k |
| 07:00.56 | herlo | each month, you'll want to change the metadata in the xml config file |
| 07:00.58 | herlo | that's it |
| 07:01.02 | rsimpkins | Okay. |
| 07:01.03 | herlo | unless it doesn't work |
| 07:01.26 | herlo | let me know when you'd like to test it out before next month and we'll get together |
| 07:01.39 | herlo | I'll be in town for two weeks after next week |
| 07:01.52 | rsimpkins | Okay, there is quite a lot happening with PLUG, so things are going to have to get put in line. :) |
| 07:02.15 | herlo | this *has* to happen. I think it'll attract more people to PLUG overall |
| 07:02.20 | herlo | :) |
| 07:02.38 | herlo | we've had over 200 downloads so far on podcast.utosf.org in just a few days |
| 07:02.43 | rsimpkins | Nice. |
| 07:03.01 | rsimpkins | I'm not sure anyone got tonight's meeting. |
| 07:03.03 | herlo | yeah, and I think we can get more sponsors if we can do more podcasts/streams... |
| 07:03.40 | herlo | I know, I'm working on nailing down people for each group. I'd like to see Jayce^ step up in that area, but I don't think its gonna happen anytime soon. He's too busy |
| 07:04.55 | herlo | btw, the plug meeting from November is #2 with 47 downloads |
| 07:05.13 | herlo | its 2am here |
| 07:05.37 | Supaplex | it's just after midnight here |
| 07:06.35 | herlo | Supaplex: there's a time stamp on my chat, so I know |
| 07:07.12 | herlo | :) good night all |
| 07:07.22 | Supaplex | nite :) |
| 07:07.40 | Supaplex | time to slaughter this epson stylus photo 720 |
| 07:17.30 | herlo | http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/?p=180 <- competitor to the eeep c |
| 07:18.36 | *** topic/#utah by Tene -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | We're hiring! We're all hiring! Be sure to tell them we sent you. | <herlo> I'm working on nailing down people. |
| 07:26.24 | herlo | Tene: what does that mean? |
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| 14:18.45 | ^Migs^ | my dad bought my mom an iPod Touch for Christmas, and he gave it to me to play around with and load up some stuff for my mom. The Touch is neat, but this is the first time I used iTunes, and I just started laughing at how much it sucks. |
| 14:18.59 | ^Migs^ | I'm going to tell him to take it back to the store and buy a Creative Zen or something. If I had to spend an hour trying to figure out iTunes, my mom's never going to be able to figure it out. |
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| 14:23.39 | ^Migs^ | maybe this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855102034 |
| 14:26.45 | herlo | cowonamerica.com |
| 14:30.37 | ^Migs^ | what do you like about cowon particularly? |
| 14:31.42 | ^Migs^ | good reviews on newegg |
| 14:35.45 | ^Migs^ | one requirement is not to have any syncing software like iTunes that you NEED to use. It's so much better when it's just like a flash drive you can copy to. |
| 14:38.14 | goozbach | ARRRRRGH!!!! sPAM! |
| 14:38.26 | goozbach | ~spam spam |
| 14:38.27 | ibot | ACTION subscribes spam to every possible mailing list he can find on the 'net AND arranges for spam to get at least 50 snail mail spams a day |
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| 14:51.39 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 14:58.56 | ^Migs^ | are there any portable video players that play AVIs? |
| 15:01.37 | fozzmoo | Cowon iAudio X5 |
| 15:01.46 | fozzmoo | plays xvid-compressed stuff. |
| 15:02.10 | fozzmoo | I think their newer models actually play more. |
| 15:02.50 | fozzmoo | http://www.cowonamerica.com/ (What a funny domain name.) |
| 15:02.54 | brac | [COWON America] |
| 15:03.59 | fozzmoo | What I love about the Cowon products is the audio codec support: MP3, WMA, ASF, OGG, WAV, FLAC, APE, MPC |
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| 15:29.53 | Tene | fwiw, my sisters weren't able to figure out the "copy mp3 files to flash drive" approach, but they're able to use the syncing software and iTunes just fine. |
| 15:30.04 | Tene | But, yes, cowan products are nice. |
| 15:30.17 | Tene | cowon |
| 15:31.15 | Jayce^ | Yeah, my wife didn't get the copying files to a drive with our first mp3 players, but the itunes is really easy for her.. |
| 15:31.27 | Jayce^ | while it's not my favorite, I can't see how you *couldn't* get it |
| 15:32.31 | ^Migs^ | I hate the fact that audio books have to be converted into AAC format in iTunes |
| 15:32.50 | ^Migs^ | I get it now, but it took me over an hour to figure out. |
| 15:32.54 | Jayce^ | m4b.. we'll they don't *have* to, thye just do to get the bookmarking |
| 15:33.07 | ^Migs^ | so I just rename the mp3s as m4b? |
| 15:33.15 | ^Migs^ | bookmarking is kind of important |
| 15:33.24 | Jayce^ | no, not rename, it is a conversion.. |
| 15:33.29 | Jayce^ | mp3 doesn't support bookmarking |
| 15:33.46 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 15:33.49 | ^Migs^ | that's something my mom's going to want |
| 15:35.00 | tensai | rockbox supports bookmarking with any file you've got |
| 15:35.33 | ^Migs^ | whoa, cool |
| 15:35.36 | Jayce^ | tensai, is it workign better? it's been a while but the last rockbox I used the bookmarking in mp3 seemed to cause some nasty skips |
| 15:35.42 | Jayce^ | that was on my 4g ipod |
| 15:35.51 | Jayce^ | I know there has been newer versions though |
| 15:35.54 | ^Migs^ | kind of nervous about sticking unofficial firmware on a device, though |
| 15:36.01 | tensai | Jayce^: I've only tried it a couple times. I don't listen to many audio books. |
| 15:36.16 | tensai | ^Migs^: I've reverted back a couple times. it's painless. |
| 15:36.22 | ^Migs^ | oh, okay |
| 15:36.25 | Jayce^ | overall, I've been unimpressed with bookmarking large files, I prefer small files |
| 15:36.36 | Jayce^ | everyone has problems with it imho |
| 15:36.40 | ^Migs^ | meh |
| 15:36.50 | tensai | I have had a couple weird bugs with rockbox. the firmware I've got now has been solid though. |
| 15:37.04 | tensai | I think it's the 20071125 build |
| 15:37.20 | Jayce^ | I gotta find my old usb cable and to put it back on my 4g.. doesn't work with the firewire |
| 15:37.21 | fozzmoo | Cool. I'll have to try it again soon. |
| 15:37.39 | fozzmoo | (Rockbox works well on the Cowon X5) |
| 15:37.40 | tensai | one time I managed to grab the build that broke "pause" |
| 15:37.46 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 15:37.48 | tensai | I'm using it on a sansa |
| 15:37.49 | Jayce^ | I had the ipod linux on there, that was fun, but buggy, of course.. |
| 15:38.35 | tensai | my favorite parts are the ogg support and the games |
| 15:39.01 | tensai | esp. sudoku. haven't tried doom yet |
| 15:39.22 | Jayce^ | ogg support used to be a big deal for me, but I finally just stopped ripping to ogg.. then I lost a drive that had most of my ogg's on it.. |
| 15:40.15 | tensai | I stopped ripping to it, but I just don't feel like converting my collection |
| 15:40.31 | fozzmoo | My collection is all in flac. |
| 15:40.49 | fozzmoo | Then, I convert to ogg or mp3 for whatever device it's going on. |
| 15:41.25 | tensai | isn't that time consuming? |
| 15:41.41 | fozzmoo | Yeah, but it's not too bad. |
| 15:42.10 | fozzmoo | spr |
| 15:42.15 | fozzmoo | spr's oggify helps. :) |
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| 15:46.03 | sargun_n810 | Hullo! |
| 15:47.50 | sargun_n810 | Yet another ;obile device.. |
| 15:48.06 | sargun_n810 | Gotta get used to the keybpard |
| 15:48.10 | fozzmoo | obviously. |
| 15:50.34 | sargun_n810 | I just completed the most dangerous part of my trek to work. |
| 15:50.54 | sargun_n810 | I need new buds for thnis. |
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| 15:55.22 | sargun_n810 | Ohio |
| 15:55.33 | sargun_n810 | Oh no. It rains. |
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| 16:01.16 | tensai | elg: how's vernal today? |
| 16:02.12 | sargun_n810 | Iheyvernal? |
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| 16:07.35 | tensai | that's where I store my loose change |
| 16:08.29 | jsmith | sargun_n810: You got an n810 as well, I see... |
| 16:11.18 | elg | -metar kvel |
| 16:11.18 | brac | KVEL 101553Z AUTO 20004KT 1/4SM FZFG VV001 M11/M13 A3014 RMK AO2 SNB20E31 SLP268 P0000 T11111128 |
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| 16:11.30 | elg | -metar kpvu |
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| 16:14.24 | findlay | -metar klmn |
| 16:14.25 | brac | couldn't find weather data for KLMN |
| 16:17.13 | findlay | -metar hijk |
| 16:17.14 | brac | couldn't find weather data for HIJK |
| 16:18.22 | tensai | -metar kfindlay |
| 16:18.23 | brac | couldn't find weather data for KFINDLAY |
| 16:21.08 | sjansen | http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2008/01/tmtowtdi_the_right_way_to_do_i.html |
| 16:21.10 | brac | [TMTOWTDI -> The Right Way to Do It - O'Reilly ONLamp Blog] |
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| 16:24.29 | Jayce^ | sjansen, was just reading that.. |
| 16:24.41 | findlay | of all the procs to not be killed |
| 16:24.43 | findlay | argh |
| 16:24.43 | Jayce^ | chromatic has had a couple good ones the last week |
| 16:24.53 | findlay | stupid firefox |
| 16:25.58 | Sargun | hey all. |
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| 16:44.45 | ^Migs^ | WARSAW (Reuters) - A Polish man got the shock of his life when he visited a brothel and spotted his wife among the establishment's employees. |
| 16:44.46 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 16:44.48 | ^Migs^ | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN0959912720080109 |
| 16:46.33 | Sargun | ^Migs^, old 'news' |
| 16:50.23 | ^Migs^ | lies |
| 16:50.35 | tensai | shouldn't they both be happy to know they're both adulterers? |
| 16:51.28 | tensai | maybe he could get a job there too |
| 16:51.32 | maquis | i certainly can't imagine why either of them could be mad at the other for being there |
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| 16:56.37 | Sargun | tensai, as? :-? |
| 16:57.39 | tensai | Sargun: you know I'd rather not imagine it. I'm sure there's something he could do though. |
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| 17:03.17 | findlay | I don't want to work today |
| 17:03.43 | findlay | what I want is ... jellybeans! |
| 17:03.54 | findlay | maybe |
| 17:03.55 | Sargun | o.O |
| 17:04.06 | findlay | ~herlo Sargun |
| 17:04.07 | ibot | ACTION pokes Sargun in they eye with a sharp needle |
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| 17:50.43 | Jayce^ | aand paul answers before I can.. figures.. |
| 17:51.21 | Jayce^ | smorrey is trying to learn perl by reading "Tricks" code... |
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| 18:09.10 | findlay | http://dowebsitesneedtolookexactlythesameineverybrowser.com/ |
| 18:09.11 | brac | [Do websites need to look exactly the same in every browser?] |
| 18:09.21 | findlay | in my broswer, that says "Yes!" |
| 18:09.41 | findlay | s/sw/ws/ |
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| 18:35.04 | Jayce^ | we should have a license or something before allowing people to look at perl golf examples.. |
| 18:40.47 | emcnabb | herlo, jsmith, atoponce, goozbach what's the plan for tomorrow? |
| 18:40.56 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 18:40.56 | ibot | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to Jayce^, and goes postal |
| 18:41.10 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, 1) get rocks, 2) suck on them |
| 18:42.07 | emcnabb | Jayce^: pansy |
| 18:42.49 | goozbach | I will know by end of day |
| 18:43.39 | emcnabb | goozbach: cool - just curious |
| 18:45.10 | brasto | I have a few rsvps for the UDBUG meeting tonight. Anyone else planning to come? |
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| 19:04.01 | jsmith | emcnabb: Not to wear blue jeans ;-) |
| 19:04.32 | jsmith | emcnabb: Other than that, I'll be hacking on some docs stuff |
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| 19:10.14 | emcnabb | jsmith: haha, true. |
| 19:11.07 | emcnabb | jsmith: you driving down this evening? |
| 19:20.15 | jsmith | emcnabb: I'm in Huntsville, AL teaching a class... I'll be flying in late tonight |
| 19:20.23 | jsmith | emcnabb: It's good to hear we have a large Utah contingent though |
| 19:22.26 | emcnabb | jsmith: yeah, we will have quite a crowd here |
| 19:23.16 | herlo | emcnabb: dinner |
| 19:23.22 | goozbach | it depends how long it takes me to get my stuff done for monday |
| 19:23.33 | herlo | emcnabb: but I thought it was tonight with the gurus, they leave before dinner tomorrow |
| 19:23.42 | herlo | then we could do dinner otmorrow night again :) |
| 19:26.37 | jsmith | goozbach: You driving? |
| 19:26.50 | jsmith | goozbach: Wanna drive completely out of your way and pick me up? |
| 19:30.55 | emcnabb | herlo: oh, hum... I thought it was everyone tomorrow night |
| 19:31.12 | emcnabb | herlo: I have kid duty tonight since the wife is working |
| 19:36.55 | herlo | emcnabb: I see |
| 19:37.12 | herlo | well, how late is the wife working? I'll be here a while probably |
| 19:37.18 | herlo | not too late, but you know |
| 19:37.34 | herlo | jsmith: are you needing a ride tonight? |
| 19:37.35 | emcnabb | 6pm to 7am :-) |
| 19:37.39 | herlo | emcnabb: oh |
| 19:37.45 | herlo | that'll not work at all |
| 19:37.51 | emcnabb | hum |
| 19:37.58 | herlo | I could come back later I suppose, but I'm stuck here until 5:30 |
| 19:37.59 | emcnabb | Friday night is definitely on |
| 19:38.03 | herlo | yeah! |
| 19:38.14 | emcnabb | it's just tonight that's the problem |
| 19:38.17 | herlo | k, I wil just go to dinner with them then I suppose. Sorry man |
| 19:38.32 | emcnabb | I can stop by and say hi to everyone later today |
| 19:38.43 | herlo | You should come over and meet them before heading home tonight though. They're just next door |
| 19:38.49 | herlo | to me |
| 19:39.32 | emcnabb | you know what time they'll be availble? |
| 19:39.38 | emcnabb | I assume they're in meetings all day |
| 19:41.31 | Kemotaha | ping herlo |
| 19:43.33 | herlo | Kemotaha: pong |
| 19:43.47 | Kemotaha | Will this work with a fedora 6 boot CD: |
| 19:43.56 | Kemotaha | linux rescue vnc |
| 19:44.00 | herlo | nope |
| 19:44.09 | jsmith | herlo: No, I'm good if/when I get to Raleigh |
| 19:44.11 | herlo | vnc only works for install AFAIK |
| 19:44.23 | herlo | jsmith: what? Not getting into raleigh? |
| 19:44.30 | Kemotaha | Is there a way to go to a prompt from the install? |
| 19:44.35 | sjansen | Kemotaha: Try it. You won't know until you try. Seems reasonable that it should work. |
| 19:44.41 | herlo | Kemotaha: Alt-F2 |
| 19:44.56 | jsmith | herlo: Bad thunderstorms.... see http://flightaware.com/resources/wx/national_radar.gif?1199993514 |
| 19:44.57 | herlo | sjansen: I've tried that in RHEL5, no workie |
| 19:45.01 | herlo | jsmith: ahh |
| 19:45.19 | Kemotaha | herlo: will that work in the VNC section? |
| 19:45.29 | sjansen | Kemotaha: Alt-F2 through Alt-F5 only work after stage 2. |
| 19:45.50 | herlo | Kemotaha: from vnc, you cannot access those screens AFAIK |
| 19:46.06 | Kemotaha | ok |
| 19:46.39 | herlo | sjansen: alt-f2/f5 only doesn't work before stage 2 |
| 19:46.41 | sjansen | Oh, wait, rescue is curses based. That's why it doesn't work with VNC. |
| 19:46.47 | herlo | sjansen: right |
| 19:46.57 | herlo | no gui |
| 19:47.20 | goozbach | jsmith: through where? |
| 19:47.23 | goozbach | huntsville? |
| 19:47.24 | Kemotaha | it is a remote system and it is not taking keyboard via DRAC |
| 19:47.28 | goozbach | that's pretty close |
| 19:47.31 | Kemotaha | so I am trying to figure out options |
| 19:47.54 | herlo | jsmith: I'll be coming over to the hackfest after I finish my exam (early afternoon) |
| 19:48.02 | nick125 | VNC only cares about X :-) |
| 19:48.07 | jsmith | goozbach: Yeah... but not *that* close ;-) |
| 19:48.24 | jsmith | herlo: Yeah, but it's not as cool as my n810 |
| 19:48.36 | herlo | jsmith: yes it is |
| 19:48.38 | jsmith | herlo: I've got bluetooth, GPS, and a touchscreen |
| 19:48.47 | herlo | jsmith: but I'd like to see you rn810 |
| 19:48.55 | herlo | I've heard they are pretty neat |
| 19:48.56 | jsmith | herlo: And the same screen resolution, and it fits in my pocket |
| 19:49.04 | jsmith | ~jab herlo |
| 19:49.04 | ibot | ACTION jabs a fork in herlo |
| 19:49.06 | herlo | I can put mine in my pocket |
| 19:49.14 | herlo | if the pocket is big |
| 19:49.25 | herlo | I have a full *usable* keyboard |
| 19:49.28 | jsmith | herlo: Is that an eepc in your pocket or are you... uh... not going there |
| 19:49.36 | herlo | hehe |
| 19:49.39 | herlo | yeppers |
| 19:49.47 | jsmith | Does yours have a SIP client? |
| 19:49.52 | jsmith | A web cam? |
| 19:49.57 | herlo | web cam, yes |
| 19:50.01 | jsmith | Ah, cool. |
| 19:50.08 | nick125 | That way, I can lug around my eeepc instead of my huge laptop |
| 19:50.10 | herlo | sip client, it has skype so I'd suppose that'd work |
| 19:50.21 | jsmith | herlo: Skype != SIP |
| 19:50.26 | herlo | jsmith: I know |
| 19:50.32 | jsmith | herlo: (That being said, I have Skype + Gizmo + SIP) |
| 19:50.33 | nick125 | jsmith: Let's get him! |
| 19:50.38 | herlo | jsmith: I was implying that sip would probalby work because skype can |
| 19:50.44 | goozbach | jsmith: if you can get to chatanooga, I'll swing by and pick you up |
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| 19:59.47 | emcnabb | herlo: can I stop by in 5 - 10 minutes? |
| 20:00.17 | Supaplex | emcnabb: you might want a kevlar vest for that ;) |
| 20:01.11 | emcnabb | Supaplex: haha |
| 20:02.45 | jsmith | goozbach: I may take you up on that... send me your cell number, please |
| 20:03.59 | emcnabb | I'm still waiting for my XO laptop to come |
| 20:04.25 | emcnabb | they're basically telling me "you'll get it sometime in 2008" |
| 20:05.28 | unum | I thought about getting an xo but it didn't quite fit my needs |
| 20:05.34 | unum | but it would be a cool thing to have |
| 20:06.19 | emcnabb | unum: I got to play around with, and then for the kid(s) to use |
| 20:07.16 | unum | ya if I had kids it would have been more tempting |
| 20:10.04 | emcnabb | I also would like an eeepc, but I don't think they honey will go for it |
| 20:18.08 | herlo | emcnabb: sure |
| 20:18.21 | Tene | emcnabb: steal herlo's |
| 20:18.24 | herlo | emcnabb: come on by, but I thin kthey'll be busy for a while longer |
| 20:28.48 | emcnabb | herlo: ok, I'm good to go for dinner this evening |
| 20:28.58 | emcnabb | herlo: is dinner on you? ;-) |
| 20:30.56 | sjansen | emcnabb: Don't take no for an answer. Split between 3 gurus? They should be able to buy you a lobster and steak dinner at least. ;-) |
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| 20:35.21 | herlo | emcnabb: no, its on the other guurs |
| 20:35.22 | herlo | gurus |
| 20:36.04 | findlay | guurs! |
| 20:36.17 | herlo | sjansen: aren't you supposed to be coding? |
| 20:36.25 | emcnabb | sjansen, herlo :-) |
| 20:38.08 | herlo | emcnabb: I've gotta save my bucks for this weekend |
| 20:39.13 | emcnabb | herlo: gotcha |
| 20:40.27 | findlay | ~steal herlo's bucks |
| 20:40.28 | ibot | ACTION grabs herlo's bucks and gives it to findlay |
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| 20:58.20 | vontrapp | -lart nonstandard foreign key naming |
| 21:12.53 | Kemotaha | stupid Drac version 3 |
| 21:14.56 | elg | ~time |
| 21:14.57 | ibot | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2008.01.10 21:14:57 GMT) |
| 21:15.20 | elg | ~uunixtime |
| 21:17.23 | elg | $ date -u +%s |
| 21:17.23 | elg | 1199999832 |
| 21:20.09 | elg | $ date -u +%s; date |
| 21:20.09 | elg | 1200000000 |
| 21:20.09 | elg | Thu Jan 10 14:20:00 MST 2008 |
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| 21:24.47 | vontrapp | so when is 2billion? |
| 21:24.54 | Tene | Tomorrow. |
| 21:25.13 | vontrapp | so is that kinda like an event horizon thing going on there? |
| 21:25.40 | Tene | Yesterday. |
| 21:27.49 | elg | yoyoyo |
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| 22:00.37 | tensai | $ alias date='echo 0' |
| 22:00.39 | tensai | $ date |
| 22:00.39 | tensai | 0 |
| 22:01.12 | tensai | now to wait for an unsuspecting victim... |
| 22:06.31 | goozbach | doobie doobie doo... what's this? |
| 22:06.41 | goozbach | ~date |
| 22:06.42 | ibot | It is now 2008.01.10 22:06:42 GMT |
| 22:06.48 | goozbach | ok thanks ibot |
| 22:07.04 | goozbach | oh yeah, did our XSS work? |
| 22:07.11 | goozbach | ~logs? |
| 22:07.11 | ibot | hmm... logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 22:09.00 | goozbach | tensai: looks like it diddn't work |
| 22:09.02 | goozbach | :( |
| 22:09.05 | goozbach | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/20080108.html.gz |
| 22:10.03 | tensai | goozbach: that's probably a good thing :) |
| 22:10.37 | tensai | but hopefully we've polluted everybody else's logs so if they ever post them to their website, we win! |
| 22:11.41 | emcnabb | herlo: should I head over at around 6pm? |
| 22:11.57 | goozbach | tensai: good call |
| 22:15.14 | Sargun | emcnabb, Andrew is interested in AI, right? |
| 22:19.23 | *** join/#utah jsmith (n=jsmith@216.207.245.1) |
| 22:19.35 | emcnabb | Sargun: pretty much - more on the machine learning side |
| 22:19.47 | emcnabb | that's what he's getting his masters in |
| 22:20.51 | Sargun | ah, do you have any way that I could learn to contact him via |
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| 22:33.23 | herlo | emcnabb: yeah, sounds good |
| 22:33.49 | emcnabb | ok, cool |
| 22:34.02 | emcnabb | can you message me your cell number? |
| 22:34.09 | emcnabb | sjansen is being a jerk and won't give it to me |
| 22:34.26 | emcnabb | never mind, he repented |
| 22:34.40 | sjansen | emcnabb: All you had to do was ask. Geez. |
| 22:35.06 | emcnabb | sjansen: thanks |
| 22:35.26 | thaddeusq | sjansen likes being a jerk sometimes |
| 22:35.31 | tensai | emcnabb: all you had to do was publicly shame him. geez. |
| 22:35.33 | sjansen | ~punish emcnabb |
| 22:35.33 | ibot | ACTION forces emcnabb to install and use Windows |
| 22:35.44 | sjansen | ~language thaddeusq |
| 22:35.45 | ibot | ACTION grabs thaddeusq by the ear and washes thaddeusq's mouth out with soap |
| 22:36.29 | sjansen | ~herring tensai |
| 22:36.30 | ibot | ACTION whacks tensai on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 22:36.30 | emcnabb | ~lart unnamed jerk |
| 22:36.30 | ibot | beats unnamed jerk into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 22:36.41 | sjansen | ~mackrel emcnabb |
| 22:36.56 | sjansen | ~salmon emcnabb |
| 22:37.06 | sjansen | Nope, guess not. |
| 22:37.20 | thaddeusq | ~tuna sjansen |
| 22:37.27 | emcnabb | sjansen: time to go. have fun being a... well... never mind |
| 22:39.24 | Tene | ~sjansen emcnabb |
| 22:39.25 | ibot | ACTION tells emcnabb good things about sjansen |
| 22:45.15 | tensai | ~emcnabb sjansen |
| 22:45.23 | vontrapp | booo, why does gimp not open urls anymore?? |
| 22:45.42 | tensai | vontrapp: "open location" |
| 22:45.45 | sjansen | Perhaps you're missing a gnome package? |
| 22:45.56 | vontrapp | that's what i use |
| 22:46.07 | vontrapp | it says "no such file" |
| 22:47.17 | vontrapp | gimp version 2.4.0-rc3 |
| 22:47.24 | sjansen | In most GKT+ apps, URI-based file support is currently provided by gnome-vfs. Work's being done to push that down a layer to a cleaner reimplementation based on gobject so that GTK+ apps don't have to depend on GNOME libraries. |
| 22:47.33 | vontrapp | alls i know it worked until gutsy |
| 22:47.34 | sjansen | Of course, I'm just shooting in the dark. |
| 22:47.54 | sjansen | apt-cache search gvfs? |
| 22:48.05 | sjansen | I think that's its new name. |
| 22:49.42 | sjansen | All I know is my gimp 2.4.3 on F7 loads URLs like a champ. |
| 22:49.44 | vontrapp | still get no such file |
| 22:50.18 | vontrapp | no gvfs |
| 22:50.35 | sjansen | gnome-vfs-2? |
| 22:51.01 | vontrapp | nope |
| 22:51.34 | vontrapp | there's a libgnome-vfs2.0-cil |
| 22:51.42 | vontrapp | already installed |
| 22:51.58 | vontrapp | there's libgnome-vfsmm-* whatever that is |
| 22:52.49 | sjansen | mm is usually used for C++ wrappers around GTK+/GNOME C libraries. |
| 22:53.17 | sjansen | I'm betting this guy is why my gimp works: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/filesystems/libgnome-vfs.so |
| 22:53.50 | vontrapp | harmmmm, there's a gimp-gnomevfs |
| 22:55.00 | vontrapp | yay, that worked |
| 22:55.31 | sjansen | thar ya goes |
| 22:55.33 | vontrapp | Recommends: gimp-gnomevfs |
| 22:55.43 | vontrapp | might as well be a depends, i say |
| 22:56.39 | vontrapp | yay, color picker doesn't pop up the color dialog anymore! |
| 23:07.06 | Tene | Color dialog violated a software patent. |
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| 23:11.49 | Tene | I didn't like E-Harbor much when I worked with them. |
| 23:12.02 | Tene | I didn't see that much of them, but they were kinda... weird. |
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| 23:35.07 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 23:41.12 | vontrapp | how do you make cvs ignore things? |
| 23:50.52 | tensai | vontrapp: .cvsignore |
| 23:55.39 | findlay | Tene: it was probably the patent for displaying an agressive tooltip that obliterates what you want to look at |
