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| 02:36.05 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 02:36.42 | Supaplex | eww! bot germs! |
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| 02:52.41 | fozzmoo | ti`ocpi: Hi. |
| 03:04.31 | Supaplex | ahh the smell of cookies baking mmmmm |
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| 03:18.16 | Sargun | Lakshmi, |
| 03:18.29 | Lakshmi | hi |
| 03:20.11 | fozzmoo | Sargun |
| 03:20.14 | fozzmoo | , |
| 03:21.19 | Sargun | fozzmoo |
| 03:21.20 | Sargun | , |
| 03:21.46 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo |
| 03:21.47 | Lakshmi | , |
| 03:22.02 | fozzmoo | Sargun: How goes the bot? |
| 03:22.18 | Sargun | Good. |
| 03:22.20 | fozzmoo | What are you writing it in, anyway? |
| 03:22.48 | Sargun | It uses an IPC system with multicast (UDP), vanilla UDP, and straight TCP interfaces |
| 03:22.50 | Sargun | PYthon |
| 03:22.51 | Sargun | Python |
| 03:23.04 | Lakshmi | i thought it was C? |
| 03:23.10 | fozzmoo | Python is a good language for that. |
| 03:23.27 | ti`ocpi | belated: Heya fozz |
| 03:23.36 | fozzmoo | ti`ocpi: Yat? |
| 03:23.48 | ti`ocpi | Yat? |
| 03:23.50 | ti`ocpi | Wazzat? |
| 03:23.59 | fozzmoo | Where are you at? |
| 03:24.05 | ti`ocpi | ah |
| 03:24.07 | ti`ocpi | Cedar |
| 03:24.16 | fozzmoo | How's Cedar? |
| 03:24.17 | Sargun | Lakshmi, my first one was in C |
| 03:24.35 | ti`ocpi | Cold |
| 03:24.36 | ti`ocpi | Mostly |
| 03:24.41 | fozzmoo | Sargun: I'm sure the first one was a nice learning experience, but you're probably having a lot more fun in Python. :) |
| 03:24.47 | Sargun | yah |
| 03:24.48 | Sargun | yeah |
| 03:24.51 | Lakshmi | Sargun did you finish that? |
| 03:24.54 | Sargun | I've coded python ones before |
| 03:24.56 | Sargun | Lakshmi, no. |
| 03:25.08 | Sargun | fozzmoo, This is quite nice. It's enterprise quality |
| 03:25.19 | fozzmoo | Enterprise quality IRC bot. Nice. |
| 03:26.03 | Sargun | haha |
| 03:26.04 | fozzmoo | Cuz you never know when a Fortune 500 company's going to need to deploy an IRC bot in their data center. :) |
| 03:26.10 | Sargun | Seriously. |
| 03:26.12 | Sargun | It can cluster |
| 03:26.23 | Sargun | you can have multiple IRC connection runnning |
| 03:26.26 | Sargun | some in active mode |
| 03:26.31 | Sargun | some in passive mode |
| 03:26.38 | Sargun | Let's say you want to do math |
| 03:26.50 | Sargun | you can cluster the math servers and load balance between them |
| 03:27.00 | fozzmoo | Cool. |
| 03:27.11 | fozzmoo | Alright. I gotta go to a scouts meeting. :) |
| 03:27.17 | fozzmoo | Be back in a while. |
| 03:27.18 | Sargun | Of the children. |
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| 03:27.23 | Sargun | Have fun being a bad influence. |
| 03:27.33 | fozzmoo | heh. |
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| 03:33.58 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: Around? |
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| 04:10.03 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo! |
| 04:10.15 | fozzmoo | yeah? |
| 04:10.22 | Lakshmi | sup? |
| 04:10.56 | fozzmoo | Amy Winehouse made Blackwell's worst-dressed list. |
| 04:11.07 | fozzmoo | She's #2 |
| 04:13.52 | herlo | so? |
| 04:14.45 | Lakshmi | well |
| 04:14.51 | Lakshmi | that i agree with |
| 04:14.57 | Lakshmi | she doesnt know how to dress |
| 04:18.25 | fozzmoo | She doesn't know how to... well, do a lot of things. |
| 04:18.29 | fozzmoo | She can sing. |
| 04:18.44 | Lakshmi | about rehab |
| 04:18.48 | Lakshmi | thats bout it |
| 04:21.37 | herlo | exactly |
| 04:22.00 | herlo | I think she's alright looking, but she'd probably be better looking if she didn't dress like that |
| 04:22.10 | herlo | fozzmoo: I love django |
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| 04:22.22 | herlo | in this case, django filters |
| 04:22.24 | herlo | :) |
| 04:22.28 | graphyx | Anyone any good at wine? |
| 04:22.31 | fozzmoo | herlo: Very good. |
| 04:22.40 | herlo | graphyx: red or white? |
| 04:22.49 | graphyx | ubuntu flavored. |
| 04:23.02 | graphyx | better than a changling |
| 04:23.04 | herlo | on occasion I'll dring a Pinot Noir |
| 04:23.12 | herlo | s/ng/nk/g |
| 04:23.26 | herlo | graphyx: what do you need? |
| 04:23.40 | graphyx | trying to run puzzle quest. |
| 04:23.46 | herlo | fozzmoo: I'm going to be writing the new Call for Papers in django this week |
| 04:23.49 | graphyx | says it is supported on winehq |
| 04:23.52 | herlo | k |
| 04:23.53 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.55 | fozzmoo | cool. |
| 04:23.57 | herlo | like? |
| 04:24.13 | graphyx | The HQ says to run this. |
| 04:24.15 | herlo | fozzmoo: yeah, I think it'll be really easy to manage once I get most of the pieces written |
| 04:24.23 | graphyx | but I don't know how to do this: " WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dpnet=n" regsvr32.exe dpnet.dll " |
| 04:24.38 | graphyx | am I suposed to wine that line? |
| 04:24.39 | herlo | graphyx: do it right before you run the command |
| 04:24.41 | graphyx | (didn't work) |
| 04:24.50 | graphyx | just from the console? |
| 04:24.57 | herlo | yeah, something like |
| 04:25.09 | graphyx | regsvr32.exe: command not found |
| 04:25.17 | herlo | WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dpnet=n" regsvr32.exe dpnet.dll && wine command |
| 04:25.36 | herlo | I wonder if it needs to be exported though |
| 04:26.30 | graphyx | I don't appear to have the regsvr32.exe file in there at all. |
| 04:26.32 | herlo | fozzmoo: I just added more features to the new nad improved LardWars |
| 04:26.36 | graphyx | is that something I need to add? |
| 04:26.39 | herlo | dunno |
| 04:26.55 | herlo | I've had to export a couple things before, but not that |
| 04:27.07 | herlo | otherwise, wine just works |
| 04:27.46 | herlo | sorry man |
| 04:28.04 | graphyx | what do you mean by export? |
| 04:29.07 | herlo | export WINEDLLOVERRIDES=... |
| 04:29.10 | herlo | liek that |
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| 04:29.21 | herlo | make sure it spans all shells |
| 04:32.19 | fozzmoo | g'night FUD-man. |
| 04:33.06 | tyler_ | peace out homie g |
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| 04:45.34 | rsimpkins | Does anyone know a site that tracks DELEGATES each candidate is getting instead of votes? |
| 04:45.44 | rsimpkins | To me the votes don't matter one bit - it's the friggen delegates. |
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| 04:46.27 | sargun-palm | hi |
| 04:46.37 | sargun-palm | what's up all? |
| 04:48.09 | sargun-palm | anyone? |
| 04:48.25 | sargun-palm | 20 percent |
| 04:48.47 | sargun-palm | lakshmi |
| 04:50.44 | sargun-palm | ~ping |
| 04:50.44 | ibot | pong |
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| 04:54.31 | sargun-palm | hi knine |
| 04:54.33 | sargun-palm | what's up? |
| 04:54.56 | knine | not a whole lot |
| 04:55.07 | sargun-palm | ah |
| 04:55.10 | sargun-palm | neat |
| 04:55.23 | sargun-palm | anyone here at ces? |
| 04:57.59 | sargun-palm | I'm bored |
| 04:59.14 | macutard | I wish I was at ces |
| 04:59.23 | macutard | I'd steal all the free tshirts |
| 04:59.29 | sargun-palm | haha |
| 04:59.35 | sargun-palm | my company is there |
| 04:59.48 | macutard | nice! Which company? |
| 04:59.49 | sargun-palm | we use the secretary as a booth babe. |
| 04:59.59 | sargun-palm | hehe. |
| 05:00.03 | sargun-palm | that's prvate |
| 05:00.07 | sargun-palm | :-) |
| 05:00.12 | macutard | So she's scrumptious? I really wish I was there now. :P |
| 05:00.13 | fozzmoo | sargun-palm: Is she hot? |
| 05:00.20 | sargun-palm | fozzmoo: very |
| 05:00.30 | sargun-palm | but stupid. |
| 05:00.34 | macutard | hahaha |
| 05:00.37 | fozzmoo | I saw some traffic to my site from some BSD sites. |
| 05:00.38 | sargun-palm | she didn't know what 'eta' is |
| 05:00.42 | Lakshmi | hi sargun-palm |
| 05:00.51 | sargun-palm | hi lakshmi |
| 05:00.52 | fozzmoo | I tracked it down to some pictures of the BSD daemonettes. |
| 05:00.57 | macutard | haha |
| 05:01.04 | fozzmoo | I've got some pictures of me with them at LWCE from a few years back. |
| 05:01.09 | sargun-palm | lakshm, you've seen olivia, how do you think she is? :-P |
| 05:01.11 | fozzmoo | Now those are the kinds of booth babes every company should have. |
| 05:01.19 | macutard | Sweet |
| 05:01.25 | sargun-palm | red hair, slim |
| 05:01.26 | macutard | booth babes = tasty morsels |
| 05:01.27 | fozzmoo | sargun-palm: Are you tethered? |
| 05:01.46 | sargun-palm | fozmo: no. pushin right off the palm |
| 05:02.05 | Lakshmi | i think shes okays |
| 05:02.17 | sargun-palm | lakshmi: noo |
| 05:02.40 | sargun-palm | fozzmoo: why do you ask? |
| 05:02.44 | fozzmoo | sargun-palm: You're gonna get RSI thumbing that fast. :) |
| 05:02.53 | sargun-palm | I can't tether at the gym |
| 05:03.09 | sargun-palm | that'd be weird |
| 05:03.19 | sargun-palm | but I got a nokia n810 today |
| 05:03.19 | Lakshmi | how so? why dont you jus home gym it |
| 05:03.32 | Lakshmi | how many GPS's does a person need |
| 05:03.42 | sargun-palm | my minisd gets here on friday |
| 05:04.00 | findlay | 1000/m^2 ! |
| 05:04.04 | findlay | obviously |
| 05:04.14 | findlay | that's how many ipv6 addrs there are (I think) |
| 05:04.32 | rsimpkins | How do I know how many delegates there are per state for rebuplicans/democrats? Anyone? |
| 05:04.37 | findlay | so the gods at parc have dispensed that we need 1000 devices per square metre |
| 05:04.42 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: Depend on the state. |
| 05:04.46 | findlay | there's no other way to inteepret it |
| 05:04.49 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I know - so where is the list? |
| 05:05.00 | fozzmoo | Google. Wikipedia. Something. :) |
| 05:05.07 | rsimpkins | I've been trying. |
| 05:05.08 | findlay | s/ee/er/ |
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| 05:05.11 | rsimpkins | Believe me. |
| 05:05.21 | sargun-palm | eh? |
| 05:05.25 | findlay | rsimpkins: this means you have been chosen |
| 05:05.38 | findlay | to be the gatekeeper of this information |
| 05:05.53 | sargun-palm | oh. |
| 05:05.56 | rsimpkins | I just wanna have a non-CNN view of the data. Is that so much to ask? |
| 05:05.56 | sargun-palm | makes sense. |
| 05:06.13 | sargun-palm | rsimpkins: yes.. |
| 05:06.17 | rsimpkins | I guess. |
| 05:06.25 | rsimpkins | Perfect occlusion. |
| 05:06.33 | findlay | rsimpkins vs CNN |
| 05:06.42 | macutard | time to sleep |
| 05:06.45 | macutard | later tators |
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| 05:06.58 | fozzmoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College |
| 05:07.03 | atoponce | how long should it take to shrink a partition from 93GB to 35GB? |
| 05:07.18 | atoponce | using resize2fs |
| 05:07.34 | fozzmoo | Could be a while. |
| 05:07.43 | atoponce | meaning hours? |
| 05:07.43 | fozzmoo | I'd say an hour or two. |
| 05:07.55 | rsimpkins | atoponce: How many disks behind it? |
| 05:08.04 | atoponce | rsimpkins: just one |
| 05:08.09 | rsimpkins | atoponce: Quite a while. |
| 05:08.15 | sargun-palm | a while. |
| 05:08.17 | atoponce | ugh |
| 05:08.21 | sargun-palm | how fast is your disk? |
| 05:08.23 | fozzmoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_primary |
| 05:08.29 | sargun-palm | how fragmented is it? |
| 05:08.34 | findlay | I predict 1.25 hours |
| 05:08.47 | atoponce | sargun-palm: sata. shouldn't be fragmented at all |
| 05:08.53 | sargun-palm | I predict 1.26 hours |
| 05:08.56 | atoponce | findlay: serious, or joking? |
| 05:09.05 | sargun-palm | atoponce: what was the drive used for? |
| 05:09.23 | findlay | atoponce: just a seed value. Let the market determine the real time :) |
| 05:09.26 | atoponce | it's my main drive on my laptop. i didn't like the partition structure, so i'm changing it up |
| 05:09.31 | atoponce | findlay: heh |
| 05:09.35 | findlay | lvm2? |
| 05:09.36 | rsimpkins | findlay: Mmkay, not too much i don't already know there. |
| 05:09.41 | atoponce | findlay: will be, when i'm done |
| 05:09.47 | rsimpkins | findlay: Oops, that was for fozzmoo. |
| 05:09.49 | sargun-palm | atoponce: yeah, that's gunna take a while |
| 05:10.03 | atoponce | sargun-palm: why? |
| 05:10.35 | sargun-palm | desktop drives have a lot of read wtite |
| 05:10.49 | findlay | lets see where my laptop is |
| 05:10.50 | sargun-palm | laptop drives are usually bad at seeking |
| 05:11.14 | rsimpkins | How many democratic delegates does California get in the democratic national convention? Anyone? |
| 05:11.24 | findlay | somewhere between Sparks, NV and SLC, UT on I-80 |
| 05:11.27 | findlay | yay |
| 05:11.59 | sargun-palm | rsimpkins: an int betweenor equal to 100 from 0 |
| 05:12.27 | rsimpkins | It looks like the democratic party site has it listed for each state - on seperate pages. Ugh. |
| 05:12.45 | sargun-palm | hehe. |
| 05:12.50 | rsimpkins | And the answer is 48. |
| 05:13.01 | sargun-palm | rsimpkins: are you democrat or republican |
| 05:13.06 | fozzmoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_National_Convention |
| 05:13.09 | rsimpkins | sargun-palm: Independant. |
| 05:13.10 | fozzmoo | There's that. |
| 05:13.22 | fozzmoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Convention |
| 05:13.37 | fozzmoo | Tells how each party picks its delegates. |
| 05:13.38 | rsimpkins | What CNN isn't saying is that obama/hillary have basically the same number of pledged delegates. |
| 05:13.39 | sargun-palm | ah |
| 05:13.54 | rsimpkins | And that Huckabee is way leading the pledged delegate count right now. |
| 05:13.54 | sargun-palm | who'd you vote for in the last two elections |
| 05:14.12 | rsimpkins | I like discussing all candidates from all parties. |
| 05:14.17 | Lakshmi | oh cliinton won |
| 05:14.18 | rsimpkins | At least - the ones I think are viable. |
| 05:14.20 | Lakshmi | rigth? |
| 05:14.23 | rsimpkins | Lakshmi: NO! |
| 05:14.26 | sargun-palm | why do all the social networks back the (losing) ron paul. he Is going to lose. |
| 05:14.28 | rsimpkins | Lakshmi: It was technically a tie. |
| 05:14.31 | sargun-palm | LEFT! |
| 05:14.34 | rsimpkins | CNN doesn't like to say that. |
| 05:14.45 | rsimpkins | Morons. |
| 05:15.02 | fozzmoo | Yeah- popular vote doesn't mean anything. |
| 05:15.21 | rsimpkins | All the REAL experts must have real jobs working for a candidate. These pundits don't even seem to understand how it works. |
| 05:15.23 | sargun-palm | al gore was popular :-P. |
| 05:15.30 | sargun-palm | .95 miles |
| 05:15.35 | sargun-palm | (left) |
| 05:15.54 | sargun-palm | .9 nmiles |
| 05:16.10 | fozzmoo | Al Gore's a stupid robot. |
| 05:16.16 | sargun-palm | .85 miles |
| 05:16.41 | sargun-palm | .8 miles |
| 05:17.12 | rsimpkins | I think Gore is a very mis-understood individual. |
| 05:17.20 | undertakingyou | fozzmoo: don't hold back man. Say how you really feel. |
| 05:17.33 | fozzmoo | undertakingyou: Nah. I've said my peace. |
| 05:17.36 | rsimpkins | i'm not saying that isn't his fault - I'm just saying I think he's more complex than many give him credit for. |
| 05:18.22 | fozzmoo | I know he really, really believes in his global warming rhetoric. |
| 05:19.17 | sargun-palm | fozz: do you think global warming is real? |
| 05:19.30 | fozzmoo | sargun-palm: Yes, I believe global warming is real. |
| 05:19.43 | fozzmoo | You can't deny the measurements. |
| 05:19.56 | fozzmoo | But did you know Mars is warming too? |
| 05:19.58 | rsimpkins | It kills me to think there are many people out there who think it's not. |
| 05:20.10 | fozzmoo | There are no Hummers, coal plants, or farting cows on Mars. |
| 05:20.15 | RyanE | those dang martians... |
| 05:20.23 | undertakingyou | dang cows |
| 05:20.30 | RyanE | and their 'little to no atmosphere'. |
| 05:21.18 | undertakingyou | which makes them warming all the more interesting. |
| 05:22.42 | sargun-palm | last 10th of a mile |
| 05:22.45 | sargun-palm | .9 |
| 05:22.46 | rsimpkins | findlay: Are you suggesting we humans are not contributing to the problem, or that we may be - but probably don't have the full picture yet? |
| 05:22.50 | sargun-palm | .8 |
| 05:22.52 | rsimpkins | findlay: Sorry - for fozzmoo again. |
| 05:22.54 | sargun-palm | .7 |
| 05:22.57 | rsimpkins | Dawg on tab complete. |
| 05:22.59 | sargun-palm | .6 |
| 05:23.04 | sargun-palm | .5 |
| 05:23.09 | sargun-palm | .4 |
| 05:23.14 | sargun-palm | .3 |
| 05:23.19 | rsimpkins | sargun-palm: stop please. :) |
| 05:23.24 | sargun-palm | fine. |
| 05:23.30 | sargun-palm | 5 miles!! |
| 05:23.34 | rsimpkins | :) |
| 05:23.58 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: I'm saying our contribution is probably irrelevant and there any many better things to worry about or spend money on than "fixing" the planet which is just going through yet-another climate cycle. |
| 05:24.07 | sargun-palm | done |
| 05:24.55 | fozzmoo | Those that believe humans are responsible and therefore obligated to stop and reverse the damage estimate it will cost $26 trillion to stop global warming from getting any worse. |
| 05:25.14 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I'm actually more concerned about pollution really. |
| 05:25.32 | fozzmoo | We can provide a college education for every child on the planet and end world hunger and still have $21 trillion left! |
| 05:25.59 | undertakingyou | Don't forget to get rid of national debt. |
| 05:26.06 | fozzmoo | Yeah- there's that too. |
| 05:26.22 | rsimpkins | I've seen some pretty polluted places. |
| 05:26.38 | rsimpkins | Utah Lake has got some pretty big pollution problems. |
| 05:26.39 | fozzmoo | I believe global warming as a political movement is all about world socialism and wealth redistribution. |
| 05:26.42 | rsimpkins | Jordan river, etc, etc. |
| 05:26.49 | undertakingyou | yes, I too think that we are in the 'warm' age or even the 'hot' age. When the next Ice age comes then we'll see what we do. |
| 05:27.01 | atoponce | shrink done. 40min |
| 05:27.10 | rsimpkins | Well, the joy we have is that if nothing changes we'll never know who was right and wrong. :) |
| 05:27.18 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: Have you seen pictures of London circa 1900 compared to today? |
| 05:27.40 | rsimpkins | Like, if smoking MAY cause you lung cancer, and it may not, but you keep smoking any way, you'll never know if it was your smoking that killed you or not. :) |
| 05:28.16 | bmidgley | the global warming "debate" is framed totally wrong |
| 05:28.24 | atoponce | findlay: that's got you beat by 1/2 |
| 05:28.26 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I wouldn't gauge pollution based on a picture, but mmkay. |
| 05:28.38 | bmidgley | if you believe we should do nothing to conserve, then justify that position |
| 05:28.47 | bmidgley | if you believe we should do something, justify that |
| 05:29.06 | bmidgley | instead we're going round and round with the "jury's still out" crap |
| 05:29.12 | fozzmoo | I'm just saying that we, as a 1st world nation, do more about the environment than almost anyone else on the planet |
| 05:30.39 | fozzmoo | bmidgley: I'm saying conservation and environmental conciousness is all good. I'm not for damaging the environment, quite the contrary. |
| 05:31.31 | fozzmoo | I recommend "The Politically Incorrect Guide To Global Warming" to anyone who wants a better picture of the politics of global warming. |
| 05:31.58 | bmidgley | I get the feeling politicians trying to say global isn't real just because they don't want to conserve |
| 05:32.06 | fozzmoo | bmidgley: No, that's not true. |
| 05:32.49 | bmidgley | or they can't get elected if they ask people to make a sacrifice |
| 05:33.59 | fozzmoo | Consider that if man is responsible, if CO2 emissions are causing temperature increases (and not the other way around), what would be really be required of Americans to stop global warming?! |
| 05:34.12 | fozzmoo | We'd have to stop EVERYTHING. |
| 05:34.26 | fozzmoo | And that's just to stop producing CO2, not to reverse the "damage" already done. |
| 05:34.53 | fozzmoo | Okay- we stop the cows from farting, now we can let a few more cars drive again. |
| 05:34.53 | bmidgley | but that sounds like you're saying we should do nothing |
| 05:35.01 | fozzmoo | bmidgley: EXACTLY! |
| 05:35.14 | fozzmoo | Let's work on things we CAN do. |
| 05:35.32 | fozzmoo | Let's end the AIDS epidemic in Africa. Let's cure cancer. |
| 05:35.42 | fozzmoo | We should get off oil. |
| 05:36.03 | bmidgley | that sounds like you want to do something |
| 05:36.18 | bmidgley | how |
| 05:36.20 | fozzmoo | Only because of economic reasons. |
| 05:36.35 | fozzmoo | Oil is going to get progressively stupid to consume. |
| 05:36.43 | fozzmoo | We need to find more effective energy sources. |
| 05:36.49 | fozzmoo | Windmills? solar? Hah! |
| 05:36.58 | fozzmoo | We need to bring nuclear power back to the US! |
| 05:37.18 | fozzmoo | It's the cleanest, most efficient power source in use today. |
| 05:37.33 | fozzmoo | France uses it for like 80% of their power. |
| 05:37.54 | fozzmoo | But the liberals and environmentalists think it's an abomination in the US. |
| 05:38.15 | bmidgley | If it's done right I think it's a reasonable move |
| 05:38.15 | fozzmoo | I just don't understand that. |
| 05:38.21 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I'm going to store my high-level nuclear waste in your basement. |
| 05:38.23 | rsimpkins | :) |
| 05:38.44 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 05:39.04 | Supaplex | but fozzmoo is already stockpiling the stuff |
| 05:39.15 | fozzmoo | Ethenol is a joke. |
| 05:39.15 | rsimpkins | I don't think the answer is just wind or just solar - however those are becoming more realistic and cost efficient power sources. I'm opposed to fission, but actually think fusion is what we should figure out. |
| 05:39.37 | bmidgley | A physicist told me the lowdown on fusion: |
| 05:39.44 | fozzmoo | Whoever thought of that should be shot. |
| 05:39.47 | fozzmoo | (ethanol) |
| 05:39.47 | rsimpkins | Ethenol is a way for someone to get rich off of worthless corn. :) |
| 05:39.52 | rsimpkins | Fusion FTW! |
| 05:39.57 | bmidgley | the only way we can build a reactor is if it's a great distance from the earth and very massive |
| 05:40.02 | bmidgley | wait, you mean like the sun? |
| 05:40.06 | fozzmoo | heh heh, |
| 05:40.24 | rsimpkins | There are some AMAZING things going on with fusion reactor research. |
| 05:40.27 | undertakingyou | ethenol polutes more than fossel fuels. Silly corn gas. |
| 05:40.30 | fozzmoo | Yes. Fusion would be cool. |
| 05:40.45 | fozzmoo | I don't know why we're not doing more with sugar-based fuels. |
| 05:40.49 | Supaplex | millions of degrees of cool |
| 05:41.01 | bmidgley | wind and solar are harnessing the fusion reactor we already have |
| 05:41.02 | rsimpkins | I see fusion as being the only real solution we have. Low amounts of nuclear waste, pretty clean. It's just we gotta be very long-sighted about it. |
| 05:41.07 | bmidgley | sure they won't solve anything outright |
| 05:41.19 | rsimpkins | Fusion is probably 30-40 years out. |
| 05:41.22 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: But that's still 50-100 years out. We've got fission technology right now. |
| 05:41.44 | fozzmoo | And fission is still a lot safer, cleaner, etc. than coal or oil. |
| 05:41.51 | fozzmoo | Hydro power is very clean as well. |
| 05:42.00 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: How much nuclear waste do you think 100 years of fission base load will create? |
| 05:42.02 | fozzmoo | But, no, we can't stop fish from swimming upstream! |
| 05:42.26 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: I dunno. I'm not a nuclear statistician... |
| 05:42.30 | Supaplex | fozzmoo: that's what china thought. :P |
| 05:42.33 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: The problem with hydro isn't just dams. They do actually build new dams from time to time. |
| 05:42.50 | fozzmoo | but did you know that naturally occurring radioactive elements have existed in the ground forever? |
| 05:42.55 | bmidgley | stored nuclear waste is still better than mercury etc in our water |
| 05:43.10 | fozzmoo | Well, forever is a relative term. :) |
| 05:43.30 | fozzmoo | Relativity is so important. |
| 05:43.43 | fozzmoo | We talk about the danger of storing nuclear waste while we chat on our cell phones. |
| 05:43.59 | rsimpkins | EMF is a pretty different animal. |
| 05:44.07 | rsimpkins | talk to some more physicists. :) |
| 05:44.40 | fozzmoo | Burying nuclear waste in multi-walled containers in the Nevada desert is going to kill me a lot later than my cell phone will. |
| 05:45.01 | rsimpkins | Fusion has done some great things, but due to political squabbling we can't seem to pull together the global effort needed to make a go of it. Not to mention what patents do to the whole process. |
| 05:45.41 | bmidgley | the cell phone isn't a great example of a real danger |
| 05:45.46 | rsimpkins | Thank goodness for the DOE. :) |
| 05:46.04 | fozzmoo | Imagine a president pulling a JFK moonshot manuever and saying "We will build X nuclear power stations by 2020!" |
| 05:46.08 | fozzmoo | I think it could happen. |
| 05:46.20 | fozzmoo | I think it needs to happen. |
| 05:46.43 | fozzmoo | How in the world am I going to get any work done tonight? |
| 05:47.02 | bmidgley | and if we reduced consumption by 20% then it would mean fewer power stations to build |
| 05:47.11 | rsimpkins | I read a lot about nuclear reactors, and enjoy nuclear physics as an armchair amature. I can't see how tons more nuclear reactors would be a good thing. |
| 05:47.19 | fozzmoo | bmidgley: True, but we're not going to do that. |
| 05:47.33 | bmidgley | why |
| 05:47.42 | fozzmoo | China and India will see that our consumption decreases are meaningless. :) |
| 05:47.54 | rsimpkins | Some more, yes... keeping our fleet of reactors from shrinking, yes... but not a huge gigantic explosion in the number of reactors - that's probably not good. |
| 05:48.11 | fozzmoo | We should always find more efficient ways of doing things. |
| 05:48.16 | fozzmoo | I'm all for LED light bulbs. |
| 05:48.23 | fozzmoo | Flourescent? Ehhh. Not so much. |
| 05:48.29 | fozzmoo | I hate flourescent light. |
| 05:48.38 | fozzmoo | And then there's all that mercury. Anyone think about that? |
| 05:49.21 | bmidgley | but coal-fired power produces more mercury to power incandescents |
| 05:49.52 | fozzmoo | Yeah. That's a problem. Coal plants are a lot cleaner than they used to be, tho. |
| 05:50.05 | fozzmoo | Speaking of mercury... |
| 05:50.05 | bmidgley | they could be a LOT cleaner |
| 05:51.00 | fozzmoo | Did you know the manufacture of a Toyota Prius causes more damage to the environment than driving a Hummer on the road for 10 years? |
| 05:51.30 | fozzmoo | And then, after a few years, you've got to dispose of those lead acid batteries. |
| 05:51.42 | rsimpkins | Well, I think we need to have long term vision here. We need to figure out how to build a totally artifical planet, or gain the capability to terraform mars, as well as several moons. |
| 05:51.53 | atoponce | those batteries are rated for 100,000 miles |
| 05:52.18 | rsimpkins | We, as a species, would do ourselves the best service by figuring out how to get off this little blue marble. |
| 05:52.19 | atoponce | and they conserve more energy then they dispense, so how are they more damaging to the environment than a hummer? |
| 05:52.48 | bmidgley | fozzmoo: show me the math there |
| 05:53.27 | rsimpkins | I believe a large portion of lead acid batteries are recycled - not disposed of. |
| 05:54.12 | atoponce | i'm pretty sure the batteries aren't lead. they're either nickel or lithium, iirc |
| 05:54.13 | Supaplex | I recycle all mine |
| 05:54.22 | rsimpkins | However, the use of various chemicals to create composit materials could be pretty tough to deal with. |
| 05:54.43 | atoponce | i don't think we've come up with a solution for dispensing the batteries yet, though |
| 05:54.44 | rsimpkins | atoponce: I think just about any battery except perhaps alkaline can mostly be recycled - can't it? |
| 05:54.58 | fozzmoo | http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188 |
| 05:55.00 | brac | [The Recorder] |
| 05:55.07 | atoponce | rsimpkins: not sure |
| 05:57.00 | rsimpkins | I wish I could recall the specifics of a meeting I had with a old nuclear physicist that worked on building out our first mass-produced nuclear weapons. |
| 05:57.11 | rsimpkins | Pretty interesting stories. |
| 05:57.14 | fozzmoo | Yeah, I'll bet. |
| 05:57.25 | rsimpkins | He told me about a big chemical spill they had one time. |
| 05:57.32 | fozzmoo | It's ridiculous the effort that you have to go through to get weapons-grade nuclear material. |
| 05:57.34 | Sargun | rsimpkins, I think alkaline batteries can be partially recycled. |
| 05:57.34 | rsimpkins | Killed a few guys - but never made it to the papers - at all. |
| 05:57.58 | rsimpkins | Sargun: Yeah, I'm just thinking the other battery types can be recycled more completly - that's what I meant. |
| 05:58.42 | rsimpkins | Said they were working with some chemical that reacted with water. And it spilled. And some idiot didn't know what it was and turned a fire hose on it. |
| 05:58.47 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 05:58.54 | fozzmoo | "This needs to be cleaned up." |
| 05:59.00 | fozzmoo | "OH MY EYES!" |
| 05:59.03 | rsimpkins | Said it reacted violently and created a huge gigantic toxic "bubble bath" |
| 05:59.24 | Heartsbane | mmmmmmm... bubble bath |
| 05:59.32 | rsimpkins | Like - he said it was pretty big - several hundred yards long, and like 10 feet deep. |
| 05:59.39 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: Oh no, you activated the Heartsbane. |
| 05:59.54 | rsimpkins | I can't recall the specifics tho - so take it with a grain of salt. |
| 06:00.04 | rsimpkins | I can't remember the chemical involved. |
| 06:00.27 | fozzmoo | Anyway, yeah, check out the PIG to Global Warming. Very informative. |
| 06:01.07 | fozzmoo | And watch the BBC's documentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle" |
| 06:01.14 | fozzmoo | It's on YouTube (so it must be true). |
| 06:01.19 | rsimpkins | They cleaned up the part that was inside the containment system they had, but some got out. He said they just sprayed it with water until it was so dilluted it went in to the ground. :( |
| 06:02.00 | rsimpkins | I'm sure that guy probably isn't around any more. He was pretty interesting. |
| 06:02.11 | rsimpkins | He built his house from salvaged parts. It was amazing. |
| 06:02.13 | fozzmoo | And, of course, I highly recommend Glenn Beck's book: An Inconvenient Book |
| 06:02.51 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: You know what I think would be cool? To visit Qwest's underground switching center up in Box Elder County. |
| 06:02.54 | rsimpkins | He'd find a house someone wanted to demolish, get PAID to demolish it, but he'd take a little extra time and reclaim most of the building materials. :) |
| 06:02.58 | fozzmoo | I don't know what I mention that. |
| 06:03.06 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I bet that'd be cool. |
| 06:03.37 | fozzmoo | They occasionally let members of the press go there, if they promise not to disclose its exact location. |
| 06:03.47 | rsimpkins | atoponce: Use iostat to see what kinda throughput your getting to guesstimate the time it will take. |
| 06:03.59 | atoponce | rsimpkins: good call |
| 06:04.13 | rsimpkins | atoponce: For a single disk I bet you're doine about 15MB/s |
| 06:04.19 | fozzmoo | I knew I shouldn't have gotten that 44 oz Diet Dew at 19:00 |
| 06:04.45 | fozzmoo | I was thinking, "Oh. I need to get so much work done tonight." |
| 06:05.01 | fozzmoo | But, no, I just flop into #utah and type like mad. |
| 06:05.11 | fozzmoo | I hope it was good for someone. |
| 06:06.18 | fozzmoo | That's what I was afraid of. |
| 06:06.30 | rsimpkins | I had fun. :) |
| 06:06.45 | rsimpkins | Always good having some livley discussion. |
| 06:07.00 | fozzmoo | indeed. |
| 06:09.49 | atoponce | rsimpkins: good ball park figure. i'm sitting right about 15MBps |
| 06:10.16 | atoponce | which means, i'm guesstimating 30min for 30GB. sound right, or is my math wrong? |
| 06:11.11 | atoponce | sweet. just finished |
| 06:11.51 | rsimpkins | atoponce: I know disks. :) |
| 06:12.12 | rsimpkins | atoponce: Yeah, that seems around right. How long did it take? |
| 06:12.41 | atoponce | exactly? let's see... |
| 06:12.47 | atoponce | 28min |
| 06:12.50 | rsimpkins | Bingo. :) |
| 06:13.13 | rsimpkins | I have to deal with that kinda stuff all the time, but usually it's in several terabyte chunks. |
| 06:13.19 | rsimpkins | Like, 7TB at a time or something. |
| 06:13.34 | atoponce | heh |
| 06:13.40 | rsimpkins | Although I've been using a 75TB device latley - that takes a long time to fill up. |
| 06:13.47 | rsimpkins | Even at pretty high performance. |
| 06:13.49 | atoponce | uh... yeah |
| 06:14.35 | rsimpkins | It is 126TB raw, about 75TB usable. |
| 06:14.52 | rsimpkins | 168 750GB disks. |
| 06:15.19 | rsimpkins | Can push a steady 800MB/s through it. |
| 06:15.23 | atoponce | nice |
| 06:15.31 | atoponce | now you're just showing off |
| 06:15.44 | rsimpkins | It's just neat stuff, I get excited about it. |
| 06:15.54 | atoponce | :) |
| 06:16.18 | rsimpkins | I could write a book, but books have already been written - so it'd be kind of a waste. |
| 06:20.59 | atoponce | man. i need to brush up my lvm skills |
| 06:23.53 | Supaplex | I <3 lvm |
| 06:24.47 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: Fibrechannel? |
| 06:25.07 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: Nope - that's with SATA disks!!! |
| 06:25.09 | Supaplex | atoponce: http://rafb.net/p/6EBHjB20.html :) |
| 06:25.12 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: Our FC stuff is much faster. |
| 06:25.15 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: iSCSI? |
| 06:25.27 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: Nope. Infiniband. |
| 06:25.31 | fozzmoo | ewww |
| 06:25.33 | fozzmoo | Okay. |
| 06:25.51 | rsimpkins | I think if you really saw it you wouldn't saw eww. :) |
| 06:25.58 | fozzmoo | I'm sure it's very impressive. :) |
| 06:25.59 | rsimpkins | s/saw/say |
| 06:26.04 | rsimpkins | It is pretty interesting stuff. |
| 06:26.22 | fozzmoo | I'm getting ready to deploy some FC array at KnowledgeBlue. |
| 06:26.32 | rsimpkins | Who did you go with? |
| 06:26.34 | fozzmoo | We're committed to Dell hardware. |
| 06:26.39 | rsimpkins | EMC? |
| 06:26.45 | fozzmoo | Not my decision to make. |
| 06:26.59 | rsimpkins | They have some good stuff. |
| 06:27.14 | rsimpkins | It's cheap. Gotta give them that. |
| 06:27.25 | fozzmoo | We've got this Dell blade stuff... |
| 06:27.30 | fozzmoo | I'd rather have HP |
| 06:27.50 | fozzmoo | But Dell's been showing us some blade architecture they're coming out with next month. Gonna give HP a run for the money. |
| 06:27.54 | rsimpkins | It's hard working on super low budgets trying to do very high-level tech like that. |
| 06:28.00 | rsimpkins | You end up paying for it. |
| 06:28.49 | rsimpkins | Dell is having to re-learn the lessons the boys at Compaq and IBM figured out 10 years ago. |
| 06:28.55 | fozzmoo | But, yeah, our FC is gonna be EMC stuff. |
| 06:29.07 | fozzmoo | Probably start with a single 15-drive array and then go from there. |
| 06:29.13 | rsimpkins | Ahh. |
| 06:29.27 | fozzmoo | Probably a CX3-20 for starters. |
| 06:29.32 | rsimpkins | I think our SAN arrays are in the hundreds of disks. Couldn't tell ya, maybe 300, 400 disks. |
| 06:29.56 | fozzmoo | Nice. |
| 06:30.06 | rsimpkins | We use a 40 disk array (I think) for our echange stuff. |
| 06:30.06 | Supaplex | gimmie ;) |
| 06:30.08 | fozzmoo | Any of that in Orem? |
| 06:30.15 | rsimpkins | No, it's all in the datacenters. |
| 06:30.25 | rsimpkins | We have some smaller test arrays in ORM tho. |
| 06:30.25 | fozzmoo | Dang. Be nice for a PLUG tour. :) |
| 06:30.35 | rsimpkins | Yes it would. |
| 06:31.02 | rsimpkins | The DC is an impressive place when you sit in the middle of 3000 servers and realize it's all there to support one app, and it's only one site of many. |
| 06:31.26 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 06:31.42 | fozzmoo | And it all started with hit counters. |
| 06:31.49 | rsimpkins | Crazy huh? |
| 06:32.00 | fozzmoo | yep. |
| 06:32.23 | rsimpkins | Of course, getting labled sleazy by some guys on /. is a bit of a drag - but gotta just move on. |
| 06:33.11 | fozzmoo | Does anyone actually hang out on Slashdot anymore? |
| 06:33.26 | rsimpkins | I read it every morning - wouldn't say I hang out there though. |
| 06:33.41 | fozzmoo | I browse the headlines via RSS. |
| 06:33.49 | fozzmoo | It's usually a couple days behind other sites. :) |
| 06:34.06 | fozzmoo | I remember when the Slashdot comments were the place o be. |
| 06:34.12 | rsimpkins | Yeah, I read it for the comment threads usually. |
| 06:34.29 | fozzmoo | Like... when the shooting in Columbine happened. |
| 06:34.31 | rsimpkins | most of it is junk, not like it used to be, still - every now and then you get a gem. |
| 06:34.39 | fozzmoo | Slashdot was the place to read. |
| 06:35.00 | rsimpkins | Welp, time for me to log. |
| 06:35.00 | fozzmoo | yum |
| 06:35.04 | rsimpkins | Night all. :) |
| 06:35.07 | fozzmoo | bye |
| 06:41.48 | atoponce | ok. lvm question |
| 06:42.27 | atoponce | fs already exists. can i create physical volumes, add them to a volume group, and slice up my logical volume without hurting the data? |
| 06:42.53 | atoponce | normally, you would create the pv, vg and lv, then add the fs |
| 06:57.23 | Supaplex | I don't do that often enough to commit that to memory. imo, the lvm howto is pretty resourceful |
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| 12:28.49 | herlo | anyone going to PLUG tonight? Looks to be a good topic |
| 12:28.54 | herlo | http://plug.org/node/111 |
| 12:29.27 | herlo | atoponce: that's *exactly* what lvm is for! |
| 12:29.49 | herlo | If you were here, you could participate :) |
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| 13:32.37 | atoponce | herlo: yes. i know. don't ridicule. the pain hurts bad enough |
| 13:32.55 | atoponce | it hurts even worse thinking i could have resuced everything *anyway* |
| 13:33.02 | atoponce | oh well. live and learn. live and learn |
| 13:49.14 | herlo | hehe, nice |
| 13:53.21 | atoponce | luckily, i didn't really lose valueable data |
| 13:53.27 | atoponce | just images and rc files |
| 13:53.52 | atoponce | still though. knowing that i get to resync my laptop with unison this morning isn't exactly what i'm looking forward to |
| 13:54.30 | atoponce | and that i get to reinstall extensions, reconfig configs, etc... man what a pain |
| 13:55.51 | Tene | atoponce: what did you do? |
| 13:58.17 | atoponce | didn't think |
| 13:58.53 | atoponce | i shrunk my existing partition, and made a new one, which i moved /home to. |
| 13:59.14 | atoponce | then, without thinking, i just did pvcreate and vgcreate to create an lvm. |
| 13:59.37 | atoponce | which of course, wipes the partition table, and formats the drive, no? |
| 14:00.05 | atoponce | so, knowing this, that my data was lost, reinstalled, this time, with what i was initially after |
| 14:00.10 | herlo | atoponce: I can help you with the new stuff for gurudisk if you like when you get here |
| 14:00.28 | atoponce | herlo: there's new stuff? has it been uploaded to unison? |
| 14:00.34 | herlo | uh, not yet |
| 14:00.42 | herlo | I need to do that check actually today |
| 14:01.14 | atoponce | ok. well, i'm going to sync my laptop with unison, rather than my gurudisk. then just copy from my laptop to the gurudisk |
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| 14:03.06 | herlo | nice |
| 14:04.46 | atoponce | i think that's easier. then i only need my gurudisk for the classroom, and if i want to update it |
| 14:05.36 | atoponce | and, i always have a backup on my laptop |
| 14:05.47 | atoponce | which hearing some stories, isn't a bad idea |
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| 17:46.14 | Sargun | lindsay? |
| 17:46.16 | Sargun | oh |
| 17:46.22 | Sargun | you mean the actors |
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| 18:13.24 | bonez44 | what can i RUN on my debian laptop...to see how much memory debian sees? |
| 18:13.41 | emcnabb | "free" |
| 18:14.16 | emcnabb | Is anyone in here a web developer looking for some side work? |
| 18:15.37 | bonez44 | emcnabb: I'd like to find a good web designer.....developer...with a track record....who could put together an effective site to process transactions.... |
| 18:15.40 | elg | unclejesse will twitterpate you |
| 18:16.24 | bonez44 | oh, does jesse do design development? |
| 18:16.35 | elg | facebook |
| 18:16.41 | elg | and twitter |
| 18:17.19 | bonez44 | She's had one developer...take a year....gave the guy $1k before Christmast 2006....he's been "working on it" all year...using joomla.....still just now, it's very static......lethargic..this current site... |
| 18:17.52 | bonez44 | twitter, name of a new app? |
| 18:18.40 | bonez44 | twitterpate meant, when I was a teenager and started to notice the other half of the gene pool...my mom said....I would feel 'twitterpated'.... |
| 18:18.51 | elg | i admit to a pun |
| 18:19.16 | rsimpkins | Don't let the snow stop you from coming to PLUG tonight! :) |
| 18:20.33 | elg | well, amigos, if all goes well I'm graduating this year |
| 18:21.00 | elg | and by "if all goes well" I mean, of course, if I manage not to slack off too much |
| 18:21.24 | thaddeusq | bonez44: twitterpated comes from the movie - Bambi |
| 18:21.48 | goozbach | emcnabb: still up in the air |
| 18:22.01 | bonez44 | soon you'll be wearing the mortarbord and all that....listening to endles pomp and circumstance..... |
| 18:23.09 | elg | must I? |
| 18:23.42 | Tene | emcnabb: I might know someone... what's the job? |
| 18:24.27 | rsimpkins | emcnabb: What technical skills do they need? |
| 18:25.26 | Kemotaha | rsimpkins: what time is it agian? |
| 18:25.42 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: 7:30pm |
| 18:25.53 | Kemotaha | hmm, I hope to be there |
| 18:26.04 | Kemotaha | I might be late. Are the doors going to be locked again? |
| 18:26.17 | rsimpkins | Yes, but I'm listing my phone number on the door. |
| 18:26.23 | bonez44 | thaddeusq: that's right..now that I recall....but I didn't know that when I was younger.....just thought my mom sounded weird....telling me that |
| 18:26.25 | rsimpkins | Just text me and I'll come down and open it for you. |
| 18:26.32 | Kemotaha | sounds good |
| 18:30.56 | emcnabb | Tene: rsimpkins; it's some work for a friend of mine. merging a current site into a CMS of some sort so the customer can update the site |
| 18:31.08 | emcnabb | I don't know all the details |
| 18:31.38 | Tene | I'll mail you if I find someone interested. |
| 18:31.44 | emcnabb | k |
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| 18:52.37 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 18:52.37 | ibot | pushes the wall down onto emcnabb whilst whistling innocently |
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| 19:13.12 | rsimpkins | What to eat for lunch. |
| 19:13.52 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Tacos |
| 19:13.56 | elg | chinese |
| 19:13.57 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Pasta |
| 19:14.07 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Greek |
| 19:14.10 | emcnabb | rsimpkins: frog legs |
| 19:14.16 | Supaplex | breakfast for lunch. |
| 19:14.20 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Jambalaya |
| 19:15.10 | rsimpkins | MMM. Frog legs sounds tasty - but only ones I've gigged myself. |
| 19:15.24 | emcnabb | I used to do it all the time growing up |
| 19:15.43 | emcnabb | there are some big bull frogs back where I grew up |
| 19:17.17 | elg | you grew up? |
| 19:17.30 | rsimpkins | elg: I think he means 'hatched' |
| 19:20.03 | emcnabb | elg: shut it |
| 19:20.16 | rsimpkins | I think he is part reptilian, and part chicken. A chicktile, or a repticken - depending on which one is dominate. Of course, the nucelar mutation might make it hard to tell. |
| 19:20.17 | elg | it's shut now |
| 19:20.30 | emcnabb | elg: thanks |
| 19:20.39 | elg | no problem. let me know when you want it open again |
| 19:20.44 | elg | -chat emcnabb |
| 19:20.44 | brac | emcnabb did |
| 19:20.47 | elg | -chat emcnabb |
| 19:20.48 | brac | emcnabb was mentioning what I hear google talk is called "VoIP in the gnome 3.0 post? |
| 19:21.17 | emcnabb | rsimpkins: "chicktile" sounds like some pervert who stalks cute girls |
| 19:21.36 | emcnabb | elg: keep it closed for a while |
| 19:22.33 | rsimpkins | Or a pervert who stalks cute chickens, one of the two. |
| 19:22.45 | emcnabb | true |
| 19:23.08 | elg | chick-a-fil |
| 19:23.18 | elg | chick-a-file |
| 19:23.20 | rsimpkins | "Mah! The chicktile is back in the hen house! Bring meh mah shawt gun!" |
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| 19:23.41 | rsimpkins | chickaphile? |
| 19:24.41 | Supaplex | chickyphile |
| 19:28.45 | tristanbob_ | the snow is just crazy here in Ogden |
| 19:29.05 | tristanbob_ | I'm surprised they didn't close the campus |
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| 19:41.35 | tyler_ | The douche bags who shovel our apartment complex shoveled half the cars in. We have no shovel either so I had to go out and kick a mound of snow for twenty minutes to get the car out. |
| 19:51.35 | rsimpkins | I have the worse car ever. I can't back out of my parking spot! :( |
| 19:52.29 | rsimpkins | It's that kinda snow that is powdery, but compresses in to that gritty icy consistency that makes driving hard. |
| 19:55.10 | rsimpkins | Am I dope for thinking Second Life is lame? |
| 19:55.41 | Heartsbane | You know herlo and I were discussing it, and I don't see the point |
| 19:56.11 | rsimpkins | http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/08/new-policy-regarding-in-world-banks/ |
| 19:56.20 | Heartsbane | although I do want to login one day to see NPR's Science Friday |
| 19:56.29 | Heartsbane | on Second Life |
| 19:57.12 | Heartsbane | That is about it |
| 19:57.47 | rsimpkins | So clearly Science Friday is the draw, not second life. If Science Friday had an IRC channel, I'd go there instead of second life. |
| 19:59.09 | Heartsbane | ya |
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| 20:03.12 | Heartsbane | rsimpkins: is anyone going to record tonights meeting, I have a appointment this evening in Murray. or I would go down and icecast it and record it |
| 20:03.42 | rsimpkins | Heartsbane: I've not recieved any instructions or anything, so the answer is - probably not. |
| 20:04.11 | Heartsbane | shit that is something I would like to listen to |
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| 20:04.34 | rsimpkins | Heartsbane: Do you know someone who is coming? Maybe you can twist their arm in to recording it. |
| 20:04.59 | Jayce^ | thought fozz was planning on it |
| 20:05.12 | Heartsbane | elg use soap |
| 20:05.49 | Supaplex | hehehe :) |
| 20:08.33 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: You can't make it right? Is someone else there coming that can bring that banner? |
| 20:08.53 | Jayce^ | I can swing it over in a few mins if you want to meet me |
| 20:09.08 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: Just drop it at the secretary and I'll pick it up. |
| 20:09.29 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: Or I can meet you, either one. |
| 20:10.49 | Jayce^ | hey, it's a lot of snow, you can walk part of it :) |
| 20:11.10 | rsimpkins | I think I better ski instead. |
| 20:11.17 | rsimpkins | Just need a snomobile and a sled. :) |
| 20:11.41 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: You were going to walk over here? |
| 20:15.48 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: I hope you're not walking over here. |
| 20:15.55 | Jayce^ | yeah, why not.. |
| 20:15.59 | Jayce^ | not exactly *far* |
| 20:16.18 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: It's not worth trudging thruogh the snow to give me a sign. :) |
| 20:16.37 | Jayce^ | dude, there's one building between us, it's not that bad :) |
| 20:17.26 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: What makes a good Perl hacker? |
| 20:17.40 | levi | rsimpkins: A twisted mind? |
| 20:17.50 | levi | rsimpkins: Sigil tattoos? |
| 20:18.13 | rsimpkins | levi: Yes, but what else? |
| 20:18.16 | Jayce^ | 3 things :) (larry has them well documented) |
| 20:18.53 | levi | rsimpkins: A lack of taste in programming languages? :P |
| 20:19.01 | Jayce^ | Laziness, impatience, Hubris |
| 20:19.05 | rsimpkins | levi: No, that would be PHP. :) |
| 20:19.23 | Jayce^ | actually, it's his quote about all good programmers |
| 20:20.01 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: So my laziness is fighting with my impatience on this - and I'm keeping the hubris locked in the closet cause he's a crazy man thinking my feet are snowshoes. |
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| 20:49.50 | Supaplex | hey ^Migs^ |
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| 21:24.16 | ^Migs^ | hey HEY hey, Supaplex |
| 21:25.48 | findlay | hello |
| 21:29.00 | goozbach | try walking now, b3atch |
| 21:50.39 | findlay | man, I love code tidying programs |
| 21:50.48 | findlay | htmltidy++ |
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| 21:51.21 | findlay | ~beandog |
| 21:51.22 | ibot | somebody said beandog was the gentoo guru, or a wannabe racer. a skater. |
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| 23:31.49 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 23:37.15 | Sargun | hey fozzmoo |
| 23:37.21 | Sargun | ~date |
| 23:37.21 | ibot | It is now 2008.01.09 23:37:21 GMT |