| 00:04.14 | nick125 | Sargun: What's up? |
| 00:10.40 | Sargun | not much |
| 00:10.54 | Sargun | Still wanting to have the "Who can write the fastest blog" contest? |
| 00:11.12 | Sargun | we should make someone else in here to do it too |
| 00:14.24 | nick125 | We should do teams :-) |
| 00:15.29 | Sargun | haha |
| 00:15.39 | Sargun | maybe #bitbucket |
| 00:15.50 | nick125 | Yeah, let's ask there |
| 00:18.20 | nick125 | Sargun: Maybe you should ask :P |
| 00:22.41 | Tene | eh? performance contest? |
| 00:23.12 | nick125 | Tene: Yeah |
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| 00:28.12 | Tene | nick125: measured by what? number of posts per second? |
| 00:28.40 | Sargun | number of requests per second |
| 00:28.52 | Sargun | and a post every 10 seconds |
| 00:29.51 | Lakshmi | whats the game? |
| 00:30.03 | tyler_ | anyone wanna come over and kick it |
| 00:30.07 | tyler_ | (say yes) |
| 00:30.17 | Sargun | tyler_, where do you live |
| 00:30.38 | nick125 | Is that what you meant? |
| 00:31.10 | tyler_ | Sargun: Clearfield |
| 00:31.22 | Lakshmi | tyler_ where is that? |
| 00:31.33 | tyler_ | you're kidding me :( |
| 00:31.35 | Sargun | Yes, Lakshmi has a good point |
| 00:31.46 | tyler_ | Kay, well I guess I'm on my own |
| 00:32.09 | Sargun | You probably live in some down in the middle of nowhere |
| 00:32.21 | Lakshmi | im gunna say utah somewhere? |
| 00:32.31 | Sargun | probably |
| 00:32.55 | Sargun | http://www.clearfieldcity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=238&Itemid=241 |
| 00:34.48 | Tene | nick125: are they all going to run on the same server? |
| 00:35.17 | Sargun | http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm |
| 00:35.19 | brac | [Most Wanted Terrorist - Usama Bin Laden] |
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| 01:39.20 | sjansen | ~seen Tene |
| 01:39.22 | ibot | tene is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 101 messages. Is idling for 1h 4m 34s, last said: 'nick125: are they all going to run on the same server?'. |
| 01:39.36 | sjansen | ~ping Tene |
| 01:39.36 | ibot | pong Tene |
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| 02:08.25 | Supaplex | mmmm favmous daves devils spit bbq sauce. so very tasty :) |
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| 03:11.55 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 03:17.33 | Lakshmi | hey findlay |
| 03:17.36 | Lakshmi | hey fozzmoo |
| 03:17.58 | fozzmoo | Hey Lakshmi |
| 03:19.55 | Supaplex | hi :) |
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| 03:43.17 | Babyblueut | hello |
| 03:43.57 | macutard | Hi |
| 03:46.40 | goozbach | ~blame fozzmoo, redbeard2, and Tene |
| 03:46.41 | ibot | ACTION blames fozzmoo, redbeard2, and Tene (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 03:47.12 | fozzmoo | ??? |
| 03:47.47 | sjansen | goozbach: If you're aiming for Perl uses, you missed a few. |
| 03:47.47 | Lakshmi | hehe |
| 03:48.09 | goozbach | ibot: oh and Jayce^ and neybar and sjansen, and goozbach, and ... |
| 03:48.10 | ibot | ACTION && Jayce^ and neybar and sjansen, and goozbach, and ... = ??? |
| 03:49.05 | goozbach | just wanted to see if any of them were listening |
| 03:50.20 | fozzmoo | I thought you were mad at me for dispensing relationship advice on my blog. |
| 03:50.41 | sjansen | fozzmoo: url? |
| 03:50.59 | fozzmoo | sjansen: Google me. |
| 03:51.22 | fozzmoo | "Google me!" It's the "Bite me" of the 21st century. |
| 03:51.59 | fozzmoo | goozbach: How is domestic life? |
| 03:52.03 | goozbach | doing good |
| 03:52.38 | fozzmoo | goozbach: great. When are you two going to pack up and move to Utah? |
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| 03:52.41 | bsdice | !seen HillaryC |
| 03:53.16 | fozzmoo | You're looking for someone named HillaryC in #utah? |
| 03:53.39 | bsdice | just trolling |
| 03:53.48 | herlo | fozzmoo: such a sucker |
| 03:55.27 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Boring. I was hoping you were publicly dispensing advice to goozbach specifically. |
| 03:55.34 | Sargun | hillaryC |
| 03:56.12 | bsdice | Sargun I think I meant BritneyS |
| 03:56.15 | sjansen | Preferably of the embarrassing and inappropriate sort. |
| 03:56.40 | fozzmoo | Hmmm. |
| 03:57.04 | bsdice | how is america these days? |
| 03:57.26 | fozzmoo | All we care about is stupid politics. |
| 03:57.38 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 03:57.51 | sjansen | bsdice: Cool and crunchy like the hard chocolate top of a banana split. |
| 03:57.55 | bsdice | I just saw a report on bbc world that 1/3 of americans are obese |
| 03:58.09 | tensai | bsdice: I was just going to say that was our other pasttime |
| 03:58.25 | fozzmoo | bsdice: Are you on the bottom half of the planet at the moment? |
| 03:58.26 | bsdice | no wonder if all you care about is hard chocolate |
| 03:58.41 | fozzmoo | sjansen represents 1/3 of us. :) |
| 03:58.46 | tensai | if 1/3 of this american had to be obese, I'm not sure which part I would choose |
| 03:58.56 | sjansen | bsdice: Our govt. subsidies pizza delivery. Most people eat their weight in free pizza each quarter. |
| 03:59.24 | bsdice | how much calories in a pizza |
| 03:59.30 | bsdice | 5000 |
| 03:59.50 | herlo | 5kalories! |
| 04:00.04 | fozzmoo | Plus, the liberals in govt have got the legal definition of obese down to 10 pound over Kylie Minogue |
| 04:00.08 | tensai | fozzmoo: no, he's in germany |
| 04:00.10 | sjansen | What do you mean? Meat Lovers? Cheese Lovers? Anchovy? Mexican Pizza? The devil's in the details as they say. |
| 04:00.27 | herlo | fozzmoo: Kylie Minogue is fat! |
| 04:00.40 | herlo | fozzmoo: Kylie Minogue *is* fat! |
| 04:00.47 | herlo | fozzmoo: Kylie Minogue is *fat*! |
| 04:01.03 | fozzmoo | Not in the topless pictures I've seen. |
| 04:01.15 | sjansen | Is s/he on American Idol or Dancing with the Stars? |
| 04:01.15 | fozzmoo | Oh wait. Did I just say that? |
| 04:01.22 | tensai | ~wiki kylie minogue |
| 04:01.23 | fozzmoo | No. She's in ... Europe. |
| 04:01.30 | sjansen | Where' s that? |
| 04:01.37 | fozzmoo | From Australia. |
| 04:01.54 | fozzmoo | I had to struggle to find a skinny person bsdice would relate to. |
| 04:01.56 | bsdice | tensai the exit node is in germany |
| 04:01.57 | herlo | Antarctica |
| 04:02.06 | sjansen | Isn't Australia the country next to Mexico? |
| 04:02.09 | tensai | bsdice: ah |
| 04:02.12 | herlo | 100% of people there are cold |
| 04:02.14 | fozzmoo | Didn't know if he knew who Calista Flockhart is. |
| 04:02.40 | bsdice | Kylie is not fat |
| 04:02.40 | tensai | herlo: have you heard of the 300 club in antarctica? |
| 04:02.42 | herlo | Ally McVeal? Everyone knows who Ally McVeal is |
| 04:02.51 | herlo | tensai: no |
| 04:02.55 | herlo | bsdice: yes, she is |
| 04:03.02 | sjansen | Veal? As in steak? |
| 04:03.09 | herlo | sjansen: something like that |
| 04:03.16 | fozzmoo | steak... covered with lots of butter. |
| 04:03.21 | fozzmoo | There you go sjansen. |
| 04:03.27 | herlo | <homer>mmm, butter </homer> |
| 04:03.33 | herlo | ~simpsons bsdice |
| 04:03.34 | ibot | ACTION sends bsdice chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 04:03.42 | herlo | damned ibot |
| 04:03.43 | tensai | herlo: something they do at the south pole research station when it hits -100. sit in a 200 degree sauna and get warm. then run outside all the way to the south pole and back. |
| 04:03.59 | herlo | how long does it take? |
| 04:04.04 | tensai | not sure if it's C or F though. I figure it's gotta be F. |
| 04:04.09 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 04:04.14 | tensai | herlo: it's like 100 feet |
| 04:04.23 | herlo | I could do that... |
| 04:04.28 | tensai | herlo: they said it on NPR. it has to be true. |
| 04:04.32 | findlay | should be using kelvin |
| 04:04.34 | herlo | NPR never lies |
| 04:04.47 | fozzmoo | and when they do lie, they do so with a very straight face. |
| 04:04.47 | tensai | http://penguincentral.com/300Club.html |
| 04:05.08 | sjansen | ~feed bsdice |
| 04:05.08 | ibot | ACTION offers bsdice some horseraddish |
| 04:05.23 | tensai | also, it's done nekkid |
| 04:05.44 | findlay | what happens when they find out their little club is based on an antiquated form of measurement |
| 04:06.54 | bsdice | 200 kelvin is quite cold |
| 04:06.55 | sjansen | ~measure findlay |
| 04:06.58 | herlo | fozzmoo: they just don't know they're lying, they rationalize it at "the news" |
| 04:07.18 | bsdice | have you heard about britney and kelvin federline |
| 04:07.30 | herlo | bsdice: who's that? |
| 04:07.47 | tensai | findlay: the club is based on two randomly chosen temperatures and used by people who have mental deficiancies. sounds like a perfect fit for farenheit. |
| 04:07.52 | herlo | we don't pay no attention to the paparazzi news |
| 04:07.53 | sjansen | bsdice: You mean the meteor strike? Very tragic. |
| 04:07.57 | herlo | if that's really news |
| 04:08.03 | herlo | WHAT!? |
| 04:08.21 | herlo | a meteor? |
| 04:08.32 | sjansen | Several, actually. |
| 04:08.55 | sjansen | Turns out K-Fed can book it when fire is falling from the sky. |
| 04:08.57 | findlay | ~meteor |
| 04:08.57 | ibot | Driver and utilities for the Matrox Meteor frame grabber.. URL: http://www.gnofn.org/~marksu/meteorman.html |
| 04:09.11 | herlo | ibot: sure, work for findlay |
| 04:09.20 | findlay | yay |
| 04:09.22 | bsdice | ~spears |
| 04:09.24 | findlay | ~work for herlo |
| 04:09.25 | ibot | ACTION looks over the shoulder of for herlo to see what needs to be done and then sets the elves to work getting it all done so for herlo can play bzflag |
| 04:09.31 | herlo | tensai: of course nekkid makes sense |
| 04:09.52 | herlo | tensai: it was cold! There was shrinkage! |
| 04:10.24 | fozzmoo | I WAS IN THE POOL! |
| 04:10.31 | findlay | ~pool |
| 04:10.32 | ibot | i heard pool is http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-project-9910/msg00052.html or http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-pools |
| 04:11.00 | herlo | fozzmoo: it was actually the ocean |
| 04:11.24 | bsdice | ibot: smartass |
| 04:11.24 | ibot | smartass is, like, apt the smartass |
| 04:11.25 | goozbach | I waded in both oceans within two days of each other once |
| 04:11.38 | bsdice | apt-get smartass to you ibot |
| 04:11.45 | goozbach | MD on friday night, Cali on sunday |
| 04:11.59 | herlo | goozbach: GL? |
| 04:12.01 | findlay | you got your degree on Friday? |
| 04:12.03 | bsdice | I just set up my C-band dish |
| 04:12.12 | herlo | goozbach: I did a very similar thing the other direction |
| 04:12.34 | bsdice | why do I always read boozebach |
| 04:12.37 | herlo | Cali on Sunday Mornding, Orlando, Sunday Night |
| 04:15.35 | findlay | I'll be in SLC on Saturday and then back in Provo late that night |
| 04:15.42 | fozzmoo | findlay: That's not quite the same. |
| 04:15.45 | findlay | talk about car lag |
| 04:16.16 | fozzmoo | "I dipped my toe in both ends of the Jordan River in one day and only had to have two toes amputated." |
| 04:16.26 | bsdice | . o ( drivin' home for christmas? ) |
| 04:16.59 | findlay | bsdice: no, I'm going to a concert Saturday evening |
| 04:17.11 | findlay | and SLC and Provo are a mere 60 km apart :) |
| 04:17.44 | bsdice | whats km |
| 04:17.56 | herlo | ~convert 60km to miles |
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| 04:18.11 | fozzmoo | It's further than that! |
| 04:18.12 | bsdice | metric zealots |
| 04:18.12 | herlo | ibot: approximately? |
| 04:18.46 | fozzmoo | ibot sounds like Mr Spock on an old Star Trek episode. |
| 04:18.55 | goozbach | herlo: yup |
| 04:18.55 | findlay | herlo and goozbach appreciate that I aspire to their professional level of travel jockeying all in the name of Free Software |
| 04:19.07 | findlay | I hope |
| 04:19.10 | findlay | :-) |
| 04:19.25 | findlay | but in my case, it's in the name of a girl |
| 04:19.36 | findlay | because she's going with me :) |
| 04:20.00 | bsdice | free software? |
| 04:20.08 | findlay | ~free software |
| 04:20.08 | ibot | free software is probably too expensive |
| 04:20.15 | findlay | ~expensive software |
| 04:20.30 | herlo | findlay: you solved your girl trouble? |
| 04:20.46 | findlay | herlo: that's one way of looking at it |
| 04:20.55 | herlo | bsdice: Open Source is another metric (semi) related to free software |
| 04:21.04 | herlo | findlay: yeah? You go findlay |
| 04:21.11 | findlay | haha, sure |
| 04:22.00 | goozbach | followed by Catb |
| 04:22.11 | bsdice | rms is a hippi |
| 04:22.12 | herlo | goozbach: good point |
| 04:22.22 | herlo | bsdice: so is ESR |
| 04:22.29 | bsdice | the thing is |
| 04:22.41 | herlo | you'll not convince us |
| 04:22.51 | findlay | and you must read the relavent xkcd. The relavent XKCD! |
| 04:22.57 | herlo | uh-huh! |
| 04:23.01 | bsdice | RMS has discredited himself lately through bizarre, illogical and useless discussions with Theo De Raadt |
| 04:23.12 | herlo | bsdice: if you say so |
| 04:23.24 | bsdice | I can prove it |
| 04:23.31 | herlo | bsdice: no you can't |
| 04:23.35 | bsdice | yes I can |
| 04:23.43 | herlo | bsdice: RMS is the fundamentalist that every movement needs |
| 04:23.49 | findlay | ooh, do we get a song now? |
| 04:24.09 | findlay | who can name the allusion? |
| 04:24.13 | herlo | some will follow, others abhor, but he makes you aware, and that's his job |
| 04:24.22 | herlo | IMO |
| 04:24.51 | bsdice | RMS has repeatedly recommended to not recommend non-free software or software which itself recommends add-on non-free software (such as debian packages that are non-free) |
| 04:24.55 | herlo | and realizes he has to get on a plane in under 6 hours |
| 04:25.36 | findlay | ~qed |
| 04:25.36 | ibot | somebody said qed was 'quod erat demonstrandum', meaning "That which was to have been proved.", or for proofs: "Quite Easily/Elegantly Done". Quantum ElectroDynamics |
| 04:25.41 | findlay | ~qcd |
| 04:25.58 | findlay | ibot: qcd is Quantum ChromoDynamics |
| 04:25.59 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 04:26.28 | bsdice | oh |
| 04:26.47 | bsdice | what do you know about quantum chromo dynamics |
| 04:28.36 | bsdice | quantum chromo dynamics can lead to terrism |
| 04:29.14 | bsdice | and severe diarrhea |
| 04:30.37 | bsdice | but its people like RMS and ESR that cause oil prices of above 150 USD |
| 04:31.23 | sjansen | bsdice: If you think RMS has recently discredited himself, you haven't been following RMS for very long. |
| 04:32.28 | bsdice | sjansen I am not following his actions, only when he suddenly appears in threads of groups that I read |
| 04:32.55 | sjansen | So you're an OpenBSD developer? |
| 04:33.11 | bsdice | for a private company yes |
| 04:33.23 | bsdice | we support the project financially |
| 04:34.20 | sjansen | One can hardly distinguish between Theo and RMS. They're both lunatics, and both vital to maintaining the soul of F/OSS. |
| 04:34.26 | bsdice | ahhh... my comment on RMS vs Theo gave it away |
| 04:35.10 | bsdice | most often theo has the better (more technically sound) argument on his side |
| 04:35.12 | sjansen | The difference is, RMS tries to be nice but doesn't seem to have a complete grasp of human emotion. Whereas as Theo... |
| 04:35.32 | bsdice | theo will trample on anyone's emotion if need be |
| 04:36.00 | sjansen | *shrug* At a certain point, the "technical soundness" of the argument will depend on which particular point of semantics you subscribe to. |
| 04:36.41 | bsdice | its mostly just politics |
| 04:36.41 | sjansen | For certain definitions of Free, BSD is more Free. For other definitions, GPL is more free. |
| 04:36.58 | bsdice | the important point is to stand up for something |
| 04:37.11 | sjansen | For certain definitions of quality, Linux is higher quality. For other definitions, OpenBSD is higher. |
| 04:37.29 | bsdice | have you looked at iptables conntrack code |
| 04:37.31 | sjansen | But we can all agree that OpenSSH is one of the rockingest programs ever written. |
| 04:37.38 | bsdice | yes |
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| 04:39.02 | findlay | what, that hack?? |
| 04:39.11 | findlay | the ripoff of a proprietary offering? |
| 04:39.14 | findlay | ;) |
| 04:39.19 | sjansen | ~silence findlay |
| 04:39.20 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in findlay's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 04:39.43 | bsdice | no ripoff |
| 04:39.54 | bsdice | ssh 1.5 was the last free version |
| 04:40.36 | bsdice | software is like art |
| 04:40.51 | bsdice | everything is one of two things, ingenious or copycat |
| 04:41.18 | bsdice | (y/n/cancel)? |
| 04:41.42 | findlay | Abort |
| 04:41.49 | sjansen | ABEND |
| 04:43.50 | tyler_ | I HATE CHRISTMAS TREES |
| 04:44.00 | tyler_ | I hate Christmas * |
| 04:44.13 | bsdice | so |
| 04:53.09 | findlay | Retry |
| 04:53.11 | findlay | Fail |
| 04:54.24 | bsdice | pr0n is down dl, afk |
| 04:55.33 | findlay | pr0n is teh yuk |
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| 04:58.09 | Sargun | hi |
| 04:58.12 | Sargun | .say hi |
| 04:58.12 | SaRgunC | hi |
| 04:58.15 | Sargun | .say die |
| 04:58.15 | SaRgunC | die |
| 04:58.31 | Sargun | .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.31 | SaRgunC | ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.32 | ibot | .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.33 | SaRgunC | ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.33 | ibot | .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.34 | SaRgunC | ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.35 | ibot | .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.36 | SaRgunC | ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.36 | ibot | .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.37 | SaRgunC | ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.38 | ibot | .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.38 | Sargun | hmm.. |
| 04:58.39 | SaRgunC | ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.39 | ibot | .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.40 | SaRgunC | ~say .say ~say |
| 04:58.41 | ibot | .say ~say |
| 04:58.42 | SaRgunC | ~say |
| 04:58.42 | ibot | say what? |
| 04:58.46 | Sargun | haha |
| 04:58.58 | Sargun | /.say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say .say ~say |
| 04:59.06 | Sargun | nick125, ... |
| 04:59.12 | Sargun | .about |
| 04:59.12 | SaRgunC | I am a bot being written by Sargun. I am written in C. I am superior to eagle-101's bot |
| 04:59.43 | bsdice | .porn list |
| 05:00.08 | Sargun | o.O |
| 05:00.22 | bsdice | where is the porn |
| 05:00.30 | Sargun | This is #utah |
| 05:00.34 | Sargun | porn is a bad word :-P |
| 05:00.45 | bsdice | you write a bot and there is no porn in it? |
| 05:01.03 | Sargun | Ma'am, no ma'am |
| 05:01.40 | bsdice | well there is always youporn then.... ok . afk |
| 05:02.15 | bsdice | just kiddn |
| 05:02.17 | bsdice | eh |
| 05:02.29 | RedHeron | lol |
| 05:02.41 | Sargun | The ice bricks can be stacked and stored until they melt or used as an alternative source of refrigeration. |
| 05:04.48 | Sargun | ooh. |
| 05:05.28 | Heartsbane | Someone want to get control of this clown |
| 05:05.43 | Sargun | .say Heartsbane *sneeze* |
| 05:05.43 | SaRgunC | Heartsbane *sneeze* |
| 05:05.51 | Sargun | ooh, I should write a .action |
| 05:06.00 | Sargun | that's difficult in C |
| 05:06.05 | Sargun | I feel dirty writing a bot in C |
| 05:06.29 | bsdice | C is God's own version of a portable macro assembler |
| 05:06.36 | Sargun | my bot can outperform your bot. |
| 05:06.45 | bsdice | .mount Sargun |
| 05:06.54 | Sargun | xbmodder@god ~/c/botpark $ objdump -D dist/Release/GNU-Linux-x86/botpark| wc -l |
| 05:06.55 | Sargun | 1643 |
| 05:06.55 | Sargun | haha |
| 05:07.27 | bsdice | try Ruby |
| 05:07.49 | bsdice | RedHeron are you female? |
| 05:07.54 | RedHeron | No. |
| 05:07.58 | Sargun | I use python normally |
| 05:08.26 | sontek | Juno is a great movie if you guys are looking for something to see in the theaters |
| 05:08.27 | Sargun | committed? |
| 05:08.41 | Sargun | sontek, I would like to see it, but no one to see it with |
| 05:08.42 | Heartsbane | sontek: really |
| 05:08.43 | bsdice | only with commit bit |
| 05:08.44 | Sargun | who did you watch it with |
| 05:08.46 | RedHeron | Not committed yet, but my shrink says it's by a narrow margin. |
| 05:08.56 | sontek | Sargun: I'll go see it again, lets go =) |
| 05:08.59 | sontek | Heartsbane: yeap! |
| 05:09.18 | sontek | Sargun: I went with a group for my friend Marie's birthday |
| 05:09.21 | Sargun | oh. |
| 05:09.27 | Sargun | Tell marie happy birthday! |
| 05:09.27 | Heartsbane | sontek: we doing lunch this week? |
| 05:09.27 | bsdice | I'm off to watch a movie |
| 05:09.30 | RedHeron | It's one of those "open" relationships, though I never feel a need to step out. |
| 05:09.31 | Sargun | (for me) |
| 05:09.41 | Sargun | RedHeron, and your significant other ? |
| 05:09.41 | sontek | Heartsbane: yeap, lets do it |
| 05:09.45 | sontek | Heartsbane: we can get pho |
| 05:10.00 | RedHeron | Sargun: She does all the time. I don't care. |
| 05:10.06 | Heartsbane | pho? |
| 05:10.14 | Sargun | RedHeron, why not? |
| 05:10.51 | RedHeron | Because I don't own her, her heart, her mind, her body, her morals, her desires, etc., and she always seems to come back. |
| 05:11.09 | findlay | to a red herring |
| 05:11.14 | RedHeron | And as long as she's honest, it all works. |
| 05:11.41 | Heartsbane | I hear carrier pigeons are like that too... |
| 05:11.47 | Heartsbane | Anyway night all |
| 05:11.48 | Sargun | Haha |
| 05:12.28 | findlay | yeah, they ping and they pang, slowly ferrying the intarwebs' payload through the wild blue yonder |
| 05:12.58 | RedHeron | Thus the term: ether-net? |
| 05:13.23 | findlay | eithernet? |
| 05:13.50 | Sargun | http://pastebin.ca/844836 |
| 05:13.56 | Sargun | Don't you guys love my bot |
| 05:13.57 | findlay | that'd be a spec for a mutually-optional link layer |
| 05:15.25 | findlay | not if it has 844836 lines of code |
| 05:15.48 | findlay | did you write an operating system and stuff it into a bot? |
| 05:15.57 | findlay | didn't your mother tell you to never do that? |
| 05:16.53 | findlay | bots' rights! |
| 05:18.25 | findlay | nobody? |
| 05:18.30 | findlay | not even a smirk? |
| 05:18.42 | findlay | well, then, I'm going to bed |
| 05:38.07 | sontek | Heartsbane: Pho is vietnamese food |
| 05:41.12 | RedHeron | Pho ... isn't that angel-hair pasta in a lime-chicken broth? |
| 05:41.18 | RedHeron | Kinda...? |
| 05:43.49 | sontek | RedHeron: Its actually rice noodles (they kind of look like angel hair) and the broth is just from the beef, but they give you lime that you can place in it |
| 05:44.01 | sontek | RedHeron: its my favorite =) |
| 05:44.17 | RedHeron | I think mine already had the lime in it. I was in Magna at someone's house last time I had some. |
| 05:45.48 | sontek | yeah, they probably garnished it for you (lime, bean sprouts, etc) |
| 05:45.52 | RedHeron | Yep. |
| 05:45.57 | sontek | but if you go to a restaurant you'll get it all on the side |
| 05:46.22 | RedHeron | They also had vichy soit that I loved... spicy, but not overpoweringly so. |
| 05:47.14 | RedHeron | And IIRC, I was there for Thanksgiving. |
| 05:54.23 | sontek | Mmm.. Thats such a good idea |
| 05:54.34 | sontek | Pho would be so much better for thanksgiving than Turkey |
| 06:22.51 | Sargun | hey RedHeron |
| 06:22.53 | Sargun | I'm baaaaaaaaaack |
| 06:22.59 | Sargun | Didn't you miss me? |
| 06:26.24 | nick125 | Sargun: Hey, wanna work with me on this bot? :P |
| 06:50.51 | Sargun | haha |
| 06:50.52 | Sargun | code me |
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| 16:02.57 | brac | [~ |
| 16:02.57 | brac | ~say Bridge ahead. Pay troll. |
| 16:02.58 | ibot | Bridge ahead. Pay troll. |
| 16:02.58 | brac | ~] |
| 16:04.05 | Sargun | no. |
| 16:04.09 | Sargun | troll. |
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| 16:13.43 | elg | ~say -chat |
| 16:13.44 | ibot | -chat |
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| 16:51.39 | atoponce | unum: more connection issues again with your jabber |
| 17:01.01 | unum | atoponce: thanks |
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| 17:32.34 | levi | So, online deals on cameras that look too good to be true are too good to be true. |
| 17:33.08 | Kemotaha | did you get a lemon |
| 17:33.09 | Kemotaha | ? |
| 17:33.10 | levi | You get a phone call to 'confirm your order' that is really an attempt to sell you lots of expensive accessories. |
| 17:33.25 | levi | If you don't go for enough of them, you get immediately backordered. |
| 17:35.14 | Jayce^ | yeah, my brother has had the same experience |
| 17:36.54 | levi | So, I canceled my order and ordered from Amazon Marketplace. Hopefully these guys are legit. |
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| 18:14.51 | tensai | levi: isn't that called 'bait and switch'? |
| 18:17.01 | tensai | Jayce^: your brother... is that joseph? :p |
| 18:17.31 | levi | tensai: Yeah. |
| 18:19.27 | tensai | levi: did they come out and say that the camera would be back ordered if you didn't pick up the extras? |
| 18:19.33 | levi | tensai: Nope. |
| 18:19.57 | levi | tensai: At the end of my 'confirmation call' the guy said it'd be shipping in the next couple of days. |
| 18:20.34 | levi | He did say it wouldn't work with the cheap SD card I'd ordered, so I switched to the expensive one. That turned out to be a lie. |
| 18:21.58 | fozzmoo | "This camera model will only work with a UV filter attached." |
| 18:22.25 | fozzmoo | "Luckily, we have these filters for $39.95." |
| 18:23.15 | tensai | levi: and who is this wonderful company, that we may all experience such great service in the future? |
| 18:23.25 | levi | tensai: cameraaddict.com |
| 18:23.47 | levi | broadwayphoto.com seems to be doing the same thing, but I didn't bother calling them when they sent me an email asking to call to confirm. |
| 18:23.59 | fozzmoo | I try to buy all my camera stuff from bhphotovideo |
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| 18:24.21 | levi | I replied to their email with, "I'm not calling you. You can cancel my order." to which the guy replied with, "FINE", like I was the one being rude. :P |
| 18:24.32 | fozzmoo | heh |
| 18:24.55 | levi | Oh, wait, that wasn't broadwayphoto.com, it was tristatecamera.com |
| 18:25.07 | levi | They're all located in Brooklyn. Don't buy anything from a store in Brooklyn. |
| 18:25.11 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 18:25.19 | fozzmoo | I was gonna say... most of these grey-market camera places are in NY |
| 18:25.47 | fozzmoo | I loved browsing the camera stores in Times Square. Lots of stuff with good prices. |
| 18:26.09 | fozzmoo | But there was always some anxious Italian guy who would wait about 30 seconds, then walk over and say, 'You gonna buy somethin?!" |
| 18:26.46 | fozzmoo | "No. Just browsing." |
| 18:26.51 | fozzmoo | "Browse somewhere else." |
| 18:27.04 | ^Migs^ | how can you buy unless you browse first? |
| 18:27.18 | rsimpkins | Yah, you gotta give him an Italian answer: "Hey! I'm shopping over here!" |
| 18:27.38 | ^Migs^ | want me to-a busta you legs? |
| 18:27.50 | tensai | ^Migs^: you try that and let us know how it goes |
| 18:28.30 | rsimpkins | Just do the new york thing - swear at him in several different languages - say everything is too over priced - and leave. |
| 18:29.10 | Tene | rsimpkins: but where does arson fit in? |
| 18:29.35 | rsimpkins | Tene: Your cousin Vinnie takes care of that. |
| 18:29.55 | Tene | I have an italian brother-in-law who lives in NYC... |
| 18:30.07 | rsimpkins | There ya go. :) |
| 18:36.43 | sjansen | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000916.html |
| 18:36.45 | brac | [Coding Horror: The Magpie Developer] |
| 19:05.03 | Sargun | hm |
| 19:08.33 | dmdavis | sjansen: I found a lot of cool shiny, new things linked to from that article. Thanks! |
| 19:17.00 | tyler_ | Anyone know of any job openings in northern utah? |
| 19:17.21 | rsimpkins | tyler_: That's rather broad. :) |
| 19:17.31 | tyler_ | rsimpkins: intended. |
| 19:17.40 | tyler_ | At this point, I'm willing to take a walmart position |
| 19:17.54 | rsimpkins | tyler_: wal-mart is always hiring, but please dont go there. :) |
| 19:17.59 | rsimpkins | What kinda job do you want? |
| 19:20.07 | herlo | ~lug |
| 19:20.07 | ibot | hmm... lug is Local User Group or Load of Uber Geeks |
| 19:20.10 | herlo | :) |
| 19:20.29 | herlo | walmart hires programmers all the time in Arkansas |
| 19:21.14 | levi | Arkansas is a little far from northern Utah, though. |
| 19:29.53 | herlo | levi: not an excuse really |
| 19:32.10 | levi | herlo: Well, I assume he's not willing to relocate if he's willing to consider Walmart. |
| 19:32.57 | herlo | :) |
| 19:43.41 | levi | sjansen: Some of the comments on there are pretty amusing. |
| 19:44.48 | levi | Like the ASP VBScript and PHP user who is proud of the fact that he hasn't learned anything else. |
| 19:49.14 | sjansen | http://rickyclarkson.blogspot.com/2008/01/in-defence-of-0l-in-scala.html |
| 19:49.28 | sjansen | "Optimising your notation to not confuse people in the first 10 minutes of seeing it but to hinder readability ever after is a really bad mistake." |
| 19:49.57 | unum | tyler_: you can send a resume to jamiep@venturedata.com |
| 19:49.58 | sjansen | That sentence pretty much sums up why Perl isn't such a bad language after all. |
| 19:51.01 | unum | nm that's too far south |
| 19:51.31 | unum | though atoponce used to drive down here everyday |
| 19:51.49 | atoponce | unum: jamie is hiring? |
| 19:52.04 | atoponce | anyone leave recently? |
| 19:52.10 | unum | atoponce: we should be hiring for cycle soon |
| 19:52.16 | unum | jeff of course is putting it off |
| 19:52.27 | unum | I'm currently the newest employee |
| 19:52.49 | unum | we are starting a guy in spoken on doing night time dp |
| 19:52.53 | unum | we'll see how that works |
| 19:53.06 | unum | s/spoken/spokane |
| 19:53.08 | atoponce | craig, matt, polash, cora, kayna, karine, brian, ryan... all still there? |
| 19:53.18 | atoponce | (it's sad i can remember all their names) |
| 19:54.04 | atoponce | jenny and jamie get married? |
| 19:54.22 | unum | yep all those people are still here and jenny and jamie are married |
| 19:54.45 | unum | and the real fun is pd from pos went to byu. and his fiance is still there |
| 19:54.55 | unum | so we gave him the old call center managers office |
| 19:54.56 | levi | sjansen: It's not such a bad language if you commit to using it all the time. |
| 19:55.11 | levi | sjansen: If you step away from it too long and forget all the syntax... |
| 19:56.07 | sjansen | I've stepped away from Perl for long periods of time, learning Ruby, Python and starting Haskell along the way. I've never had much trouble coming back. |
| 19:56.20 | tensai | they always come crawling back |
| 19:58.23 | sjansen | I've decided Perl's terseness is an advantage. Yes, it's optimized for experienced developers, but it doesn't obfuscate. If anything, my experience so far has been that verbose languages obfuscate more when you move beyond trivial problems. |
| 20:01.38 | rsimpkins | sjansen: What do you think of languages where white space matters? |
| 20:01.46 | rsimpkins | sjansen: They always drive me crazy. |
| 20:02.14 | sjansen | I don't mind it, actually. I have a lot of respect for the Python community. |
| 20:02.57 | sjansen | I wouldn't personally argue that it leads to better code, but I wouldn't disagree if someone else tried. |
| 20:03.30 | sjansen | So long as you use a decent editor, it's easy to deal with. Doesn't get in the way. |
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| 20:06.07 | tensai | rsimpkins: http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/ |
| 20:06.10 | brac | [Whitespace] |
| 20:06.40 | sontek | The only thing that annoys me about Python is that all projects I work on are either in C or C#, and they use hard tabs instead of spaces |
| 20:07.06 | sontek | so I have to have a specific vim setting for converting tabs to spaces when I start working on something in python |
| 20:07.22 | rsimpkins | tensai: lol |
| 20:08.27 | Jayce^ | tensai, along with that is Damians evil http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/Acme-Bleach-1.12/lib/Acme/Bleach.pm |
| 20:08.52 | jsmith-busy | That is just plain evil |
| 20:09.15 | Jayce^ | he demoed that showing how you could then intersperse another language in that, just keeping the whitespace... so you could have what looks like Java code, but is running perl :) |
| 20:09.32 | Jayce^ | technically could run both, just depending on your call |
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| 20:11.09 | tensai | Jayce^: that's clever |
| 20:11.35 | Jayce^ | no, its Damian... it's EEEEEEvillll |
| 20:12.49 | tensai | the two are not orthogonal |
| 20:17.09 | fozzmoo | http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/3502/ |
| 20:17.32 | Jayce^ | yeah, saw that last week.. |
| 20:19.57 | rsimpkins | Everyone excited about PLUG this month? |
| 20:20.11 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: That was just posted this morning. |
| 20:20.39 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, the video was last week |
| 20:20.39 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: Lame. |
| 20:20.49 | Jayce^ | seriously |
| 20:21.09 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: Yeah, the video last week purposely left out a lot of the details. |
| 20:21.18 | Jayce^ | right |
| 20:21.29 | Jayce^ | besides the whole seriously drugged up point :) |
| 20:21.33 | fozzmoo | It's kind of bothersome to me, really, that even in so much pain and turmoil, it's all about the come back ratings. |
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| 20:23.27 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: As of right now, I'm planning on being there. |
| 20:24.23 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: Are you planning on bringing any electrical help? I think last time people said they didn't have enough outlets. |
| 20:25.00 | fozzmoo | yeah. I was going to bring some strips and cords along with my camera(s). |
| 20:25.19 | rsimpkins | Sweet. |
| 20:26.08 | fozzmoo | I had to run out to my brother's shop this morning because the wireless company that leases space on the roof called and needed their equipment power cycled. |
| 20:26.17 | fozzmoo | the breaker is in a box on the side of the building. |
| 20:26.40 | fozzmoo | So I go back there, not real easy to get to. |
| 20:26.53 | fozzmoo | I realized when I got there, the box is screwed closed. |
| 20:27.03 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, I've had enough hospital experience to know glenn's experience was far from abnormal |
| 20:27.12 | fozzmoo | I don't have a screwdriver, so I find a dime in my pocket and start unscrewing the screw. |
| 20:27.15 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: I think that sucks. |
| 20:27.44 | fozzmoo | As I'm unscrewing the screw, I notice my hand is getting really wet. Water is dripping off the roof right onto my hand... |
| 20:28.14 | fozzmoo | So, here I am, water almost running onto my hand... and I'm exposing a 110 or 220 volt breaker... on purpose. |
| 20:28.14 | Lakshmi | Jayce^ wow |
| 20:28.29 | Jayce^ | wasn't busy or anything... |
| 20:29.15 | Jayce^ | they finally just took an xray, gave me a quick brace and some meds, then sent me home and told me to schedule an appointment with a surgeon |
| 20:29.17 | fozzmoo | I haven't had any experience that bad... but when I was in college I had an anaphalactic reaction to some medication and my whole body was clenching up. |
| 20:29.27 | Jayce^ | ahh the joys of socialized medicine |
| 20:29.53 | fozzmoo | I went to the hospital ER (Logan Regional) and they said, "We've got a heart attack that just came in. It'll be a while. Why don't you leave and come back in an hour or so?" |
| 20:30.28 | Jayce^ | I've had to bring my mom to the ER a few times for diabetic shock ( past the point where glucogon won't even revive) and they've had us wait.. |
| 20:30.56 | fozzmoo | So, I went back to my apartment, waited... my roommate that drove me to the hospital said he was going to the store and he'd be back to take me back... I freaked out when he was gone longer than I thought he shoudl have... and decided to drive myself. |
| 20:31.01 | fozzmoo | That was a big mistake. |
| 20:31.22 | fozzmoo | Note to all: Don't try to drive when in anaphalatic shock. |
| 20:31.25 | thaddeusq | Many paramedics will tell you if you want to get seen in the ER, you better arrive in an ambulance. |
| 20:31.34 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, what's breathing got to do with driving? |
| 20:31.34 | fozzmoo | thaddeusq: I believe it. |
| 20:31.44 | Jayce^ | thaddeusq, it's true.. |
| 20:32.38 | fozzmoo | So, I show up at the ER the second time... and there are a couple people in line at the registration desk. I hobble up there but I can't stand there... I just whisper to the attendant that I'm going to sit down. |
| 20:33.07 | fozzmoo | I think it was kind of creepy of me to do that, but it got her attention. After I had been sitting down for a couple minutes, a nurse comes out to see me. |
| 20:33.34 | fozzmoo | I tried to walk toward her, but I couldn't. She got a couple other people and they carried me back into an exam room and put me on a table. |
| 20:33.41 | fozzmoo | Right away, they injected me with benadryl. |
| 20:34.00 | fozzmoo | That has to be one of the nicest sensations I've ever had in my life. |
| 20:34.12 | Jayce^ | that all, seems more likely they'd do prednisone.. |
| 20:34.14 | fozzmoo | Oh, and they told me to quit taking that medication. |
| 20:34.56 | fozzmoo | Right now, my wife has some kind of mystery illness. |
| 20:35.30 | fozzmoo | She had some blood work done a week ago or so. Doctor's office called and said it looks like she's HAD mono recently - like in the past few months, but she doesn't have it now. |
| 20:35.39 | fozzmoo | meanwhile, she's sleeping 18-20 hours a day... |
| 20:35.49 | Tene | My brother had something like that. |
| 20:35.58 | fozzmoo | sites where she had shingles 6 years ago are sensitive again. |
| 20:36.19 | fozzmoo | It's frustrating they won't DO ANYTHING. |
| 20:36.33 | fozzmoo | We had to beg the doctor to prescribe an anti-viral. |
| 20:37.14 | fozzmoo | Oh, but I'm working on a Catalyst project at work. |
| 20:37.20 | Jayce^ | nice.. |
| 20:37.30 | Jayce^ | find fun stuff from the advent this year? |
| 20:37.42 | fozzmoo | I have looked at some of it. Looks very cool. |
| 20:42.20 | Tene | Apparently Jifty devs don't like refers_to in Jifty::DBI::Schema auto-creating accessors in referred_to classes. |
| 20:42.48 | Tene | Reasoning: "It allows you to be sure you're looking at the full schema when you look at the model. It slightly violates DRY, but not horribly IMHO." |
| 20:54.13 | tyler_ | unum: Awesome, thanks. I'll shoot one off here soon. I assume you work there? |
| 20:54.32 | sjansen | Man, I'm loving git. Scary but powerful. |
| 20:55.00 | unum | tyler_: ya and atoponce used to be here as well, it's in murray so that might be further south than you want to go |
| 20:55.38 | tyler_ | Well I can possibly relocate. |
| 20:55.44 | tyler_ | Depends on what they pay |
| 20:55.48 | tyler_ | I'm looking for 50k or more |
| 20:55.55 | tyler_ | But I'll take less for now out of desparation |
| 20:56.15 | tyler_ | I'll throw my resume your way, regardless. |
| 20:57.22 | unum | ya you won't be getting anything near that here |
| 20:57.35 | unum | there's a mysql job just posted to the slug list |
| 21:01.19 | tyler_ | Suck. |
| 21:01.28 | tyler_ | Does it pay at least 12? |
| 21:01.44 | tyler_ | not the mysql job... I'm not interested in that |
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| 21:07.46 | rsimpkins | tyler_: What experience do you have? |
| 21:08.18 | herlo | tyler_: Guru Labs is always hiring :) |
| 21:08.24 | herlo | we're looking for good instructors |
| 21:08.29 | herlo | tell them herlo sent you |
| 21:08.42 | rsimpkins | tyler_: Shoot your resume to rsimpkins@omniture.com. |
| 21:08.59 | rsimpkins | Unless you dont' want to work at Omniture. :) |
| 21:09.56 | Tene | tyler_: I'll give you cookies if you tell them that herlo didn't send you. |
| 21:10.09 | tyler_ | Tene: You got yourself a deal. |
| 21:10.29 | Tene | I mean, that Tene sent you. |
| 21:10.47 | tyler_ | rsimpkins: Well, I'm all over the place as far as experience goes. I've worked in a lot of different techs: http://www.houseofhack.org/resume/ |
| 21:10.54 | brac | [Resume of TYLER D. MACE] |
| 21:11.07 | tyler_ | brac: DON'T STEAL MY IDENTITY |
| 21:11.23 | Tene | tyler_: what have you done with those web browsers such that they're relevant to have on a resume? |
| 21:11.35 | herlo | Tene: don't steal my thunder |
| 21:11.51 | herlo | lart Tene |
| 21:11.52 | Tene | herlo: can I steal your cookies? I owe a guy. |
| 21:12.04 | herlo | Tene: I have like 3 at my house right now |
| 21:12.07 | herlo | go for it |
| 21:12.17 | tyler_ | Tene: First thing I learned about tech resumes was buzzwords are a key selling point. Not that FireFox is a buzzword, but the more the merrier, no? |
| 21:12.25 | rsimpkins | tyler_: Please take this in the right spirit. I think your resume could use a facelift. |
| 21:12.35 | tyler_ | rsimpkins: how so |
| 21:12.46 | tyler_ | Tene: What kinda cookies are we talking? |
| 21:12.59 | Tene | tyler_: reading that makes me think "He just ran package_manager search 'web browser'" |
| 21:13.15 | rsimpkins | tyler_: In my opinion the skills matrix is just a big list of buzz words. It doesn't say how skiled you are in each area, nor what you are most skilled at. |
| 21:13.39 | tyler_ | rsimpkins: ignore the skills matrix; I don't use that |
| 21:13.40 | rsimpkins | tyler_: I also recommend changing your objective to a summary. |
| 21:14.01 | tyler_ | What difference would that make |
| 21:14.06 | tyler_ | Not that I oppose |
| 21:14.25 | rsimpkins | I think it would make a stronger statement. It is usually the first thing read. |
| 21:15.04 | rsimpkins | Your current objective, in my opinion, lacks punch and seems kind of generic. |
| 21:15.16 | rsimpkins | Please take that in the right way. I'm not trying to tear you down - just trying to help. |
| 21:15.28 | tyler_ | No, don't worry about it |
| 21:15.35 | tyler_ | The criticism could be my break |
| 21:16.05 | tyler_ | See, the flip to your suggestion is that my objective gets the most attention |
| 21:16.27 | tyler_ | I just interviewed at Flying J Communications and two of four interviewers brought it up |
| 21:16.49 | thaddeusq | tyler_: My place of employment (LDS Church) has positions open currently. (However, one must be a member of the LDS Church.) |
| 21:17.01 | rsimpkins | tyler_: We do a lot of interviews. Some times I don't get a chance to review the resume before the interview. So - I pick out questions from the resume AS I'm doing the interview. |
| 21:17.02 | tyler_ | thaddeusq: I'm a member but not active |
| 21:17.09 | Tene | thaddeusq: isn't that sexist? |
| 21:17.18 | tyler_ | rsimpkins: I understand |
| 21:17.23 | thaddeusq | Tene: sexist? |
| 21:18.13 | rsimpkins | Also, Versant Voice acomplishments include 'Not going absolutely insane.' while fun, doesn't say "this guy is work 60k/year" |
| 21:18.20 | thaddeusq | tyler_: To apply in the IT department at the LDS Church, one must be worthy of a temple recommend. |
| 21:18.25 | rsimpkins | At least, to me. |
| 21:18.29 | goozbach | is it bad when your hard drive makes a sound like sandpaper? |
| 21:18.38 | tyler_ | thaddeusq: Well, no good here then. |
| 21:18.40 | tyler_ | Thanks though :) |
| 21:19.04 | jsmith-busy | goozbach: Yes... definitely a bad thing. |
| 21:19.14 | jsmith-busy | goozbach: When was your last backup? |
| 21:19.50 | thaddeusq | Tene: I don't see how it's sexist, but, from an ordinary company it would be discriminatory. |
| 21:20.43 | Tene | thaddeusq: It wasn't a serious question, was just mildly entertaining to me to ask. |
| 21:20.48 | rsimpkins | My friend and his department were laid off by the church, and re-hired as contractors and their hours significantly cut. |
| 21:21.15 | thaddeusq | rsimpkins: recently? |
| 21:21.20 | tyler_ | Local travel? |
| 21:21.25 | rsimpkins | thaddeusq: Well, 6 months now I guess. |
| 21:21.30 | Tene | tyler_: national |
| 21:21.48 | tyler_ | Sick. I'll be sending an email to you guys. |
| 21:22.05 | thaddeusq | rsimpkins: interesting. I've been here about five months. |
| 21:22.33 | rsimpkins | thaddeusq: I'm sure like with any large org, there are hot and cold spots. |
| 21:22.47 | thaddeusq | rsimpkins: definitely. |
| 21:22.52 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | We're hiring! We're all hiring! Be sure to tell them we sent you. |
| 21:23.42 | rsimpkins | Hey guru labs people. I've sent an e-mail to the management about sponsoring PLUG. They were listed as a sponsor, but no one seems to know what they were sponsoring! :) |
| 21:23.57 | rsimpkins | I'm sure it was good though, whatever it was. |
| 21:24.56 | sjansen | tyler_: GL has sent me to Toronto once, Irelenad twice, and most American cities with a strong tech. presence (and a few without). |
| 21:25.14 | tyler_ | sjansen: Right on. I might like that. |
| 21:25.18 | tyler_ | What all are you guys consulting on |
| 21:25.49 | thaddeusq | sjansen: GL sent me to Green Bay in December! (there is not a strong tech presence there.) |
| 21:26.24 | sjansen | We don't actually do consulting lately. Used to do anything with a strong Linux flavor, but business is so good lately we don't have enough instructors for the demand. |
| 21:26.38 | tensai | and sjansen even got to visit Idaho Falls, which was the hilight of his career I'm sure |
| 21:26.51 | sjansen | In the winter! |
| 21:27.18 | Tene | I was there near Thanksgiving, but tensai didn't give me any pizza like he promised. |
| 21:28.32 | Tene | Choosing your wife over IRC buddies? |
| 21:28.34 | Tene | Lame. |
| 21:28.53 | Tene | c'mon. Our nicks start with the same first three letters! |
| 21:29.01 | Tene | you're my tab-complete-collision friend! |
| 21:30.12 | jsmith-busy | ~tabcollision |
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| 21:33.45 | goozbach | jsmith-busy: this is on a devel box |
| 21:33.57 | goozbach | so it's in constant flux |
| 21:34.12 | goozbach | good news is that all the important data is in revision control |
| 21:34.33 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Good luck. |
| 21:35.12 | goozbach | bah I don't need luck |
| 21:35.45 | goozbach | I'm that good |
| 21:35.57 | goozbach | I'm booting a box that has been sitting for about 8 months |
| 21:36.17 | goozbach | I plan to install our production image on it, then use P2 |
| 21:36.34 | goozbach | er P2V software to virtualized it under Citrix Xenserver |
| 21:37.45 | goozbach | the trick seems to be getting Debian Etch to recongnise the root partion |
| 21:38.08 | goozbach | aparently this box is new enough that etch doesn't like it mucho |
| 21:39.55 | tensai | Tene: the wife sickness is true. she's getting much better though. give me a little lead time next time you're here. |
| 21:40.00 | goozbach | anyone remember how to edit lilo options at boot time? |
| 21:40.25 | fozzmoo | goozbach: No, but I'm developing a Catalyst app. |
| 21:40.37 | goozbach | punk |
| 21:40.39 | tensai | goozbach: push tab to interrupt boot. type in the label followed by your parameters. |
| 21:40.49 | goozbach | ~pineapple fozzmoo |
| 21:40.52 | fozzmoo | I was just going to say tab. |
| 21:40.56 | tensai | eg. linux init=/bin/sh noapic |
| 21:41.19 | tensai | question mark also works |
| 21:42.17 | goozbach | tab didn't work? |
| 21:42.19 | goozbach | hmm |
| 21:42.58 | goozbach | I'mmma gonna boot a centos boot.iso |
| 21:48.06 | tristanbob_ | Does tomboy run on windows? |
| 21:48.24 | tristanbob_ | http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Win32 |
| 21:50.52 | bonez44 | anyone know how to unpack a windows file, a la srsvc.dl_ into srsvc.dll? I installed XP on a linux box..using virtual machine WIN4LIN... and this one file is the only one that didn't install.... |
| 21:50.55 | bonez44 | ideas? |
| 21:54.02 | jsmith-busy | bonez44: Did you try cabextract or just extract? |
| 21:54.06 | dmdavis | bonez44: you sure it's not just renamed? (I don't know, that's just waht it looks like to me) |
| 21:54.21 | findlay | do a file on the file: `file srsvc.dl_` |
| 21:54.30 | goozbach | garg!!! |
| 21:54.38 | goozbach | nothing is as quick as anticipated |
| 21:55.23 | maquis | goozbach: ? |
| 21:55.48 | findlay | ~maquis goozbach |
| 21:55.48 | ibot | ACTION breaks goozbach just by looking in goozbach's direction |
| 21:59.49 | goozbach | planned time on this step of a project I'm working on: 3hrs |
| 22:00.12 | goozbach | current time (to now) I've been working on it: nearing 5hrs |
| 22:00.20 | goozbach | estimated time left: 4hrs |
| 22:18.16 | tensai | hah! my wife's parents' school district cancelled school today due to snow. they got a whopping (wait for it...) 1 inch. |
| 22:18.30 | levi | Where do they live? |
| 22:19.21 | tensai | southern oregon |
| 22:19.24 | Tene | I've heard rumors that in the Seattle area, school will be cancelled for days when it's *not* raining. |
| 22:19.48 | tensai | Tene: that's understanding. such an event would surely be a sign of the apocolypse. |
| 22:19.54 | levi | Well, yeah, because that only happens in the summer, during which it almost never rains. |
| 22:22.02 | sontek | Utah *should* cancel school the first few days of snow, I feel like my life is on the line with all the SUV drivers thinking they are unstoppable |
| 22:22.24 | sontek | what they don't realize is, going isn't whats important, its stopping, and their 4wheel drive isn't going to help them there |
| 22:26.13 | goozbach | ~lart debian |
| 22:26.13 | ibot | stabs debian |
| 22:26.59 | Kemotaha | why goozbach? It never did nothing to you |
| 22:31.38 | jsmith-busy | Kemotaha: Never did anything for me -- and that's reason enough to lart it |
| 22:32.26 | Kemotaha | But come on, Debian is Stable and um... Give me a second.... Thats all I got |
| 22:33.18 | tensai | the logo is cute |
| 22:34.56 | jsmith-busy | tensai: Enough reason not to use it ;-) |
| 22:37.16 | goozbach | grr |
| 22:37.31 | goozbach | now I have to bootstrap the system completely by hand |
| 22:38.21 | goozbach | interesting xensource has a debian etch image |
| 22:38.30 | goozbach | but the P2V doesn't support it |
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| 22:58.49 | tristanbob_ | I've just gotten back into Wesnoth - It is fun and addicting |
| 22:59.01 | tristanbob_ | so many campaigns now |
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| 23:14.38 | levi | We've got this audio test file we're using for development. It's some death metal band doing a song called 'Beer! Beer!' It's hilarious to hear it play occasionally. |
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| 23:21.55 | dmdavis | findlay: why are you listening to a symphonie rather than a symphony? |
| 23:22.46 | tensai | dmdavis: he upgraded |
| 23:25.32 | dmdavis | speaking of 9th Symphonies, I got a great performance of Beethoven's for Christmas. My most exciting present. :) |
| 23:25.43 | dmdavis | just so y'all know... |
| 23:26.04 | levi | Yeah, but did you get "Beer Beer"? |
| 23:26.25 | dmdavis | If I had known about it before today, I'm sure it would have been on my list |
| 23:26.46 | levi | It's by a group called 'Korpiklaani' |
| 23:27.14 | dmdavis | ah, the song appears to be on youtube |
| 23:28.09 | bonez44 | dmdavis: I just got back.....the file srsvc.dl_ is named that way on the installation, i.e,. win xp pro cd |
| 23:28.35 | dmdavis | bonez44: right. can you just copy and rename it? |
| 23:29.05 | bonez44 | I guess I could try that.....yeah |
| 23:29.39 | dmdavis | I'm just guessing. no reason to suspect that that will work. |
| 23:29.57 | tensai | I've tried that before and I don't think it works |
| 23:32.50 | findlay | dmdavis: because symphonie is the Deutsch spelling |
| 23:33.10 | dmdavis | OK, figured you had good reason :) |
| 23:34.36 | jsmith-busy | bonez44: Earlier versions of Windows required the use of a command-line utility called "extract", which you'd point at the CD and it would extact out the file |
| 23:34.49 | jsmith-busy | bonez44: I have no idea if WinXP is the same or not |
| 23:36.16 | bonez44 | ok... |
| 23:37.04 | bonez44 | another question....linux this time...let's say I frequently invoke this 'ssh somesuchmachine.com' and I want instead to just type 'such' at the prompt, or some legal word....can i set up a system alias somewhere for this? |
| 23:38.26 | dmdavis | bonez44: probably not the best way, but you could create a ~/bin directory, add it to your pach, and create a shell script called 'such' that does it |
| 23:38.33 | dmdavis | s/pach/path |
| 23:38.48 | jsmith-busy | bonez44: Or learn to use the "alias" command |
| 23:39.21 | dmdavis | ha. I knew I was forgetting something blatantly obvious |
| 23:39.26 | tensai | alias foo='ssh server bar' |
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| 23:47.20 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 23:56.32 | herlo | jsmith-busy: hey |
| 23:56.42 | herlo | jsmith-busy: when do you actually get here for FUDCon? |
| 23:57.24 | bonez44 | jsmith-busy: that works.....thanks.... |
| 23:58.05 | jsmith-busy | herlo: Late on Thursday |
| 23:59.13 | bonez44 | jsmith-busy: your comment on learning how to use alias...now if I could only make 'alias' capture and transmit Alias's Jennifer Garner....when hubby Ben wasn't looking..I'd be happy! |