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| 00:05.22 | bsdice | how will utah vote |
| 00:05.39 | elg | with ballots |
| 00:06.14 | Supaplex | I agree |
| 00:06.20 | bsdice | let me rephrase |
| 00:06.27 | bsdice | WHO will Utah vote FOR |
| 00:06.29 | Supaplex | you have our permission |
| 00:06.37 | bsdice | :-D lol |
| 00:06.45 | Supaplex | a canidate |
| 00:07.02 | bsdice | you mean a candidate |
| 00:07.04 | elg | a robot |
| 00:07.21 | bsdice | is it an issue this whole voting thing in US? |
| 00:07.29 | elg | we don't even know who's on the ballot yet |
| 00:07.39 | elg | how are we supposed to predict? I predict utah will vote for sjansen |
| 00:07.43 | bsdice | because I heard there is Golden Rule in US and A |
| 00:07.57 | bsdice | He who has all the gold, makes the rules! |
| 00:08.02 | elg | united states and africa? |
| 00:09.03 | bsdice | the big country between us and russia |
| 00:09.51 | Supaplex | depends on how you draw that line. :) |
| 00:10.12 | elg | argentina? |
| 00:10.50 | Supaplex | iraq? |
| 00:10.51 | bsdice | not the don't cry for me madonna country |
| 00:11.23 | Supaplex | oh, so Texas. |
| 00:13.31 | bsdice | I hope the nice one wins |
| 00:16.16 | goozbach | FYI I found the answer |
| 00:16.30 | goozbach | it's this command while configuring an interface: |
| 00:16.36 | goozbach | media-type rj45 |
| 00:16.37 | bsdice | yes |
| 00:16.43 | bsdice | oh |
| 00:16.52 | goozbach | that disables the spf and enables the rj45 |
| 00:16.55 | goozbach | ~yay |
| 00:16.56 | ibot | Yipee! |
| 00:17.02 | bsdice | spf? |
| 00:17.13 | bsdice | ~goozbach |
| 00:17.14 | ibot | i guess goozbach is a future que-ball. easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch |
| 00:17.16 | goozbach | fiber interface on a cisco switch |
| 00:17.26 | bsdice | omg cisco |
| 00:17.33 | goozbach | I should change that... I'm no longer worried about losing my hair |
| 00:17.38 | bsdice | won't touch cisco with 10 pole on a stiiiick |
| 00:17.57 | goozbach | why? |
| 00:18.07 | goozbach | theys make good hardware |
| 00:18.22 | bsdice | I have no use for them |
| 00:18.30 | bsdice | mostly dealing with edge nowadays |
| 00:18.42 | mrpull | bsdice: who do you put on your edges? |
| 00:18.44 | bsdice | where vdsl 50/10mbit |
| 00:18.52 | bsdice | is top of the pops |
| 00:19.01 | bsdice | mrpull customers |
| 00:19.08 | bsdice | they live on the edge |
| 00:19.39 | bsdice | mostly leased lines at 10mbps (fiber) or slower (dsl) |
| 00:19.42 | mrpull | I guess I should say what vendor's equipment do you put on the edges or your network |
| 00:20.01 | bsdice | I dare not answer (homegrown openbsd on lanner) |
| 00:20.06 | bsdice | want a link |
| 00:20.36 | bsdice | http://www.lannerinc.com/product_detail.php?products_id=227&cPath=64_171_84 |
| 00:20.50 | bsdice | on CF flash |
| 00:20.53 | bsdice | 9x 1 gbit |
| 00:21.00 | bsdice | intel only no broadcom nics |
| 00:21.11 | bsdice | xeon that is like core duo just called "xeon" |
| 00:21.14 | bsdice | 2 GB RAM |
| 00:21.25 | bsdice | no moving parts except the fans |
| 00:21.48 | bsdice | clustered using pfsync and ifstated |
| 00:22.29 | mrpull | interesting form factor. what is the max throughput for the fabric? |
| 00:22.39 | bsdice | can do 200-300mbit/s with 64-byte packets |
| 00:22.52 | bsdice | >1gbit/s on >256byte packets |
| 00:23.09 | bsdice | quite alright |
| 00:23.21 | bsdice | xeon longlife 1.66 ghz cpu (1 cpu 2 cores) |
| 00:23.27 | bsdice | ECC RAM |
| 00:23.46 | mrpull | the flexibility of running an open OS is nice |
| 00:23.51 | bsdice | intel 3100 chipset (north and south bridge merged) |
| 00:23.59 | bsdice | ya |
| 00:24.04 | bsdice | I mean... aye |
| 00:24.18 | mrpull | I'm guessing our definition of network edge is different :) |
| 00:24.28 | bsdice | could be |
| 00:24.36 | mrpull | how much does one of those boxes run (if you don't mind me asking)? |
| 00:24.36 | bsdice | is utah "edge" enough for you ;) |
| 00:25.02 | bsdice | I only know EUR price |
| 00:25.13 | bsdice | around 800 EU for the mentioned package |
| 00:25.33 | mrpull | 1200ish USD |
| 00:25.34 | bsdice | we sell not that many (ie not 100's per month) so we pay a little more but the package is sound |
| 00:26.28 | mrpull | what's the failure rate? solid little machines? |
| 00:26.31 | bsdice | (my opinions only of course) |
| 00:26.41 | bsdice | <1% |
| 00:27.01 | bsdice | mostly CF failure because we use r/o root fs and kingston sometimes gives problems |
| 00:27.05 | bsdice | and then the PSU |
| 00:27.23 | bsdice | other than that comparable to soekris |
| 00:28.07 | bsdice | this particular link I posted is pre series though, we used other lanner models |
| 00:28.50 | bsdice | I made a little test, loop 2 ports and config a bridge |
| 00:28.55 | bsdice | inject single packet |
| 00:29.11 | bsdice | see if it keeps going and it does (even at quite a load of 4 or 5) |
| 00:29.28 | bsdice | mrpull what do you use |
| 00:29.31 | bsdice | jnpr |
| 00:29.39 | bsdice | force10 |
| 00:29.51 | mrpull | cisco of many shapes and sizes depending on the app |
| 00:30.13 | mrpull | but it is quiting time, so we'll have to chat later |
| 00:30.26 | bsdice | cu around |
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| 00:32.20 | findlay | I vote for SJANSEN! |
| 00:33.18 | *** topic/#utah by findlay -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | sjansen 4 prez |
| 00:35.09 | goozbach | crap! it's 7:30 already |
| 00:37.23 | bsdice | no its 0135 |
| 01:02.19 | findlay | ~date |
| 01:02.19 | ibot | It is now 2008.01.05 1:02:19 GMT |
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| 01:25.59 | findlay | hm, so openwrt uses jffs |
| 01:26.06 | bsdice | no |
| 01:26.08 | bsdice | jffs2 |
| 01:26.12 | findlay | right |
| 01:28.28 | findlay | http://kerneltrap.org/node/8159 |
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| 01:51.41 | Lakshmi | hi |
| 01:54.33 | bsdice | yo bro sup in da hood |
| 02:01.31 | Lakshmi | uhhhhhhh are you ok? |
| 02:02.07 | bsdice | ya |
| 02:06.51 | levi | Good evening. |
| 02:08.17 | bsdice | nite |
| 02:08.54 | levi | What's up? |
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| 02:33.22 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
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| 02:59.00 | sontek | hows life? |
| 03:00.02 | Supaplex | splendid |
| 03:04.43 | levi | Not so bad. |
| 03:08.51 | Supaplex | what a strange question. my contact us page received a message similar to "I searched google and found your website. Why?" too vague to know if that's what they really meant to ask. :P |
| 03:16.24 | levi | That is pretty strange. |
| 03:16.35 | levi | The Internet is full of strange people, though. |
| 03:16.41 | Supaplex | yup |
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| 03:19.09 | levi | Having a blog with open comments is a good way to find them. |
| 03:26.33 | fozzmoo | levi: What did you order? |
| 03:33.29 | levi | fozzmoo: Pentax K100D Super |
| 03:33.38 | levi | And a 50mm f/1.4 lens. |
| 03:36.08 | fozzmoo | I'm anxious to know what you think. |
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| 03:47.25 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 03:47.37 | levi | I'm anxious to find out. |
| 03:51.14 | fozzmoo | Wow. 3200 ISO. That's cool. |
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| 04:04.39 | atoponce | how do you uninstall java from mac os x? |
| 04:07.12 | fozzmoo | Boot off a Red Hat CD/DVD. :) |
| 04:13.06 | atoponce | 5heh |
| 04:13.15 | atoponce | i would like to keep the OS in tact |
| 04:39.26 | mecworks_ | levi: you should have bought my D200 from me :) |
| 04:40.17 | levi | mecworks_: Well, you hadn't offered it. |
| 04:40.49 | mecworks_ | hm.... well, it's been on my blog since before Christmas. :) |
| 04:41.17 | levi | Well, I'd have to have read your blog to see it. |
| 04:41.37 | mecworks_ | Acutally, I figured that it it didnt' sell before Christmas, I wont sell for up to a couple months after. Post Christmas is a bad time to try selling something. |
| 04:41.53 | levi | I think I'll be happy with the K100D |
| 04:41.53 | mecworks_ | http://blog.mecworks.com :) |
| 04:42.07 | mecworks_ | Yeah, you definitely will. Great camera |
| 04:53.34 | fozzmoo | Marc, I don't see anything about the K100D on your blog. |
| 04:53.49 | levi | He has a D200 |
| 04:53.57 | fozzmoo | Oh. Right. |
| 04:59.14 | findlay | ~lart girls |
| 04:59.14 | ibot | takes girls to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 04:59.46 | herlo | ~lart verbosity |
| 04:59.46 | ibot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at verbosity |
| 05:00.37 | findlay | ~lart girls |
| 05:00.37 | ibot | puts girls through a wood chipper |
| 05:02.05 | findlay | -lart girls |
| 05:02.16 | fozzmoo | That's gotta hurt. |
| 05:02.38 | findlay | yeah, well I don't care |
| 05:08.42 | tyler_ | ~lart himself |
| 05:08.42 | ibot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up himself |
| 05:08.50 | tyler_ | pwnd. |
| 05:41.51 | atoponce | findlay: why lart girls so? |
| 05:48.05 | fozzmoo | atoponce: findlay's got girl issues. |
| 05:49.48 | atoponce | i'd say. dropping a truckload of VAXen on them is a little harsh, i think |
| 05:50.33 | fozzmoo | s/girl issues/serious girl issues/ |
| 05:51.33 | atoponce | well, on the other hand, i have yet to meet a girl that doesn't have issues |
| 05:52.37 | atoponce | so, it may not be findlay that has the problem |
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| 06:11.43 | Lakshmi | hey findlay |
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| 07:50.42 | Lakshmi | hi sargun! |
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| 07:52.04 | Tene | Supaplex: check your referrer logs and see what was searched for. |
| 07:52.07 | Lakshmi | sup sargun? |
| 07:53.46 | Tene | hi Lakshmi |
| 07:53.51 | Tene | sup Lakshmi? |
| 07:54.09 | Lakshmi | tene nothing, i dont feel good |
| 07:54.29 | Tene | That's too bad. |
| 08:12.57 | Lakshmi | Tene my bf is being lame |
| 08:13.00 | Lakshmi | or x or idk |
| 08:13.02 | Lakshmi | anymoe |
| 09:28.43 | Sargun | hey |
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| 16:47.37 | findlay | atoponce: serious girl issues :-( |
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| 17:38.07 | elg | who? |
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| 18:23.51 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
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| 20:17.46 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | By the power of Greyskull! |
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| 21:09.34 | sontek_ | Jayce^: whats the best payment gateway for handling multiple currencies?? |
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| 23:20.30 | jgiboney | I am trying to set up a debian web server following this tutorial (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch), but I can |
| 23:20.37 | jgiboney | 't run apt-get |
| 23:20.50 | jgiboney | I think my router is not giving me internet access |
| 23:21.00 | jgiboney | How can I find out |
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| 23:22.57 | bsdice | Happy New Year 2009 |
| 23:23.19 | bsdice | jgiboney_ do a traceroute www.microsoft.com |
| 23:23.24 | bsdice | lookie lookie |
| 23:31.20 | jgiboney_ | okay, it probably has to do with the fact that his tutorial (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch_p3) says to set the static ip address to 192.168.0.100, when my router is 192.168.1.1 and goes up, so should my /etc/network/interfaces look like this http://pastebin.org/14180? |
| 23:34.58 | bsdice | network is wrong |
| 23:35.02 | bsdice | 192.168.1.0 is your network |
| 23:35.17 | bsdice | broadcast also wrong, its 192.168.1.255 |
| 23:35.20 | jgiboney_ | thank you |
| 23:35.40 | bsdice | you probably should use an IP that is not in dhcp range of router |
| 23:35.40 | jgiboney_ | i'll see if that works |
| 23:35.49 | jgiboney_ | can i? |
| 23:36.23 | bsdice | I have always recommended to use a better distribution than this linux if you are not into networking |
| 23:36.55 | jgiboney_ | which flavor makes the best server? |
| 23:37.47 | bsdice | windows 2003 enterprise server |
| 23:37.56 | jgiboney_ | lol |
| 23:38.22 | jgiboney_ | i didn't expect that on this list |
| 23:39.27 | bsdice | define server |
| 23:39.47 | bsdice | define woman |
| 23:39.57 | jgiboney_ | web server, webpages, mail, database |
| 23:40.20 | jgiboney_ | woman = something wonderful |
| 23:40.56 | bsdice | you must be 13 |
| 23:41.06 | bsdice | or a dreamer :) |
| 23:41.32 | jgiboney_ | lol, actually, I grew up with 6 sisters, and I am currently married and brainwashed |
| 23:41.49 | bsdice | oh boy |
| 23:42.02 | bsdice | 6 sisters wow |
| 23:42.11 | jgiboney_ | luckily i was the oldest |
| 23:42.21 | bsdice | well debian is ok |
| 23:42.28 | bsdice | apache2 |
| 23:42.36 | bsdice | postfix |
| 23:42.43 | bsdice | mysql |
| 23:42.57 | jgiboney_ | ya, that is what this tutorial supposedly covers |
| 23:45.39 | bsdice | if you have the time try freebsd |
| 23:46.21 | bsdice | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ |
| 23:46.22 | brac | [FreeBSD Handbook] |
| 23:47.24 | Sargun | why |
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| 23:47.38 | Sargun | who keeps removing my onjoin? |
| 23:47.53 | Sargun | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/welcome.py |
| 23:47.54 | brac | [~ |
| 23:47.54 | brac | ~say Slow day. Practice crawling. |
| 23:47.55 | ibot | Slow day. Practice crawling. |
| 23:47.55 | brac | ~] |
| 23:47.58 | bsdice | the bsd god |
| 23:48.05 | Sargun | ~onjoin Sargun http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/welcome.py |
| 23:48.05 | ibot | ok, Sargun |
| 23:48.10 | brac | [~ |
| 23:48.10 | brac | ~say You work very hard. Don't try to think as well. |
| 23:48.11 | ibot | You work very hard. Don't try to think as well. |
| 23:48.11 | brac | ~] |
| 23:50.56 | goozbach | Sargun: we do |
| 23:51.00 | goozbach | it's annoying |
| 23:51.09 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin -Sargon |
| 23:51.09 | ibot | goozbach: ok |
| 23:51.21 | nick125 | Oh what in the world.. |
| 23:51.22 | nick125 | RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration |
| 23:51.36 | nick125 | I've *never* seen that before. |
| 23:52.20 | bsdice | have you tried turning it off and on again |
| 23:52.33 | goozbach | ibot: is tim around? |
| 23:52.39 | goozbach | ibot: seen timriker |
| 23:52.41 | ibot | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 22s ago, saying: 'Winny: just my luck.'. |
| 23:52.47 | nick125 | Sargun: ping |
| 23:53.49 | bsdice | ibot: Hey how are you;\`cat /etc/passwd\` |
| 23:53.50 | ibot | bsdice: okay |
| 23:54.37 | bsdice | hrm |