| 00:02.02 | levi | I don't know if there are any for PCs yet. |
| 00:03.15 | mrpull | looks like LG has one for ~$300 |
| 00:04.07 | mrpull | I don't think I have the appetite to build a HTPC around a $300 part. I imagine it'd take a beefy CPU. |
| 00:13.31 | levi | Man, Jesse Stay is a total social networking whore now. :P |
| 00:14.11 | levi | mrpull: You only need a beefy CPU if you can't get your video card to help out with the HD decoding. |
| 00:51.52 | findlay | ~socialize levi |
| 00:56.53 | levi | I already play well with others. |
| 00:56.59 | levi | Unless they are really stupid. :P |
| 01:03.03 | Supaplex | for yumm. BBQ sauce and pizza. |
| 01:12.59 | findlay | so, I switched classes |
| 01:13.15 | findlay | the first class wanted 4 books |
| 01:13.35 | findlay | the new class only has one book that cost me $1 |
| 01:14.13 | fozzmoo | On the surface, that seems like a good idea. |
| 01:14.42 | findlay | well, totally different disciplines too |
| 01:15.14 | findlay | anthropology -> psycology |
| 01:15.35 | findlay | it'll be a way better class, trust me |
| 01:17.16 | fozzmoo | Okay. Looking better. |
| 01:19.19 | Supaplex | we're suppose to trust a shrink? |
| 01:30.35 | levi | findlay: My OS Design and Simulation class wants me to buy a lot of books, too. |
| 01:37.40 | levi | Time to go home. |
| 01:45.42 | RedHeron | I trust shrinks. Long as they're the ones paying me. |
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| 02:26.31 | findlay | levi: maybe you need another OS design class |
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| 02:27.28 | Lakshmi | im good ibot |
| 02:27.34 | Lakshmi | ~talk ibot |
| 02:27.35 | ibot | ACTION chatters endlessly to ibot |
| 02:27.44 | RedHeron | ~talk itself |
| 02:27.45 | ibot | ACTION chatters endlessly to itself |
| 02:28.02 | RedHeron | Wow that worked really well, actually. |
| 02:29.37 | findlay | ~say -chat ~lart |
| 02:29.38 | ibot | -chat ~lart |
| 02:29.39 | brac | ~lart is |
| 02:29.39 | ibot | beats the living hamstercrap out of is |
| 02:29.44 | findlay | ~say -chat ~say -chat |
| 02:29.45 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat |
| 02:29.46 | brac | ~say -chat ~say -chat ~onjoin Tene |
| 02:29.47 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat ~onjoin Tene |
| 02:29.47 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:31.08 | RedHeron | -chat ~say -chat usage |
| 02:31.08 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:31.13 | RedHeron | ~say -chat ~say -chat usage |
| 02:31.14 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat usage |
| 02:31.16 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:31.42 | RedHeron | ~say -chat ~say -chat ~say chain |
| 02:31.42 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat ~say chain |
| 02:31.45 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:32.20 | findlay | ~brac |
| 02:32.21 | ibot | hmm... brac is the enemy, or a bnot |
| 02:32.27 | findlay | -chat ibot |
| 02:32.27 | brac | ibot had to add a little bit there. |
| 02:32.37 | findlay | -chat Lakshmi |
| 02:32.38 | brac | Lakshmi is away |
| 02:32.46 | findlay | -chat brac |
| 02:32.47 | brac | brac did |
| 02:32.56 | RedHeron | -chat blargh |
| 02:32.57 | brac | blargh had |
| 02:33.03 | RedHeron | -chat blargh did it |
| 02:33.03 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:33.18 | RedHeron | Multiple-word strings can't be seeded? |
| 02:33.37 | findlay | -chat two words |
| 02:33.37 | brac | two words and no well |
| 02:33.48 | RedHeron | So the limit is 2 |
| 02:34.17 | RedHeron | -chat ~say -chat ~say |
| 02:34.17 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:34.23 | RedHeron | -chat ~say -chat |
| 02:34.23 | brac | ~say -chat ~say -chat about script |
| 02:34.24 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat about script |
| 02:34.25 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:34.39 | RedHeron | Great chaining, incorrect usage. |
| 02:34.56 | RedHeron | ~say -chat ~say |
| 02:34.56 | ibot | -chat ~say |
| 02:34.59 | brac | ~say went |
| 02:35.00 | ibot | went |
| 02:35.05 | RedHeron | ~say -chat ~lart |
| 02:35.06 | ibot | -chat ~lart |
| 02:35.08 | brac | ~lart had |
| 02:35.08 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of had's pants |
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| 02:47.56 | brac | [~ |
| 02:47.56 | brac | ~say Blow it out your ear. |
| 02:47.57 | ibot | Blow it out your ear. |
| 02:47.57 | brac | ~] |
| 02:48.28 | tensai | levi: I for one appreciated your comment |
| 02:48.46 | tensai | maybe we should start a new drinking game. every time he mentions social networking, take a drink. |
| 02:49.26 | Sargun | hm |
| 02:49.30 | Sargun | who? |
| 02:49.32 | Sargun | who is he |
| 02:51.11 | findlay | ~who |
| 02:51.20 | findlay | ibot: who is |
| 02:51.20 | ibot | rumour has it, is is the country code for iceland |
| 02:51.51 | findlay | ~who qw |
| 02:52.07 | findlay | ~random |
| 02:52.28 | findlay | ~84606 |
| 02:52.35 | findlay | ~who 84606 |
| 02:59.08 | atoponce | Jayce^: you know, ChanServ isn't really needed to guard this channel anymore. there are plenty of people here |
| 02:59.24 | atoponce | fyi |
| 03:11.38 | findlay | levi: ping |
| 03:12.57 | findlay | I am ChanServ |
| 03:15.57 | tensai | atoponce: one of ChanServ major tasks is to assure ops are correct after a netsplit |
| 03:16.15 | RyanE | holy cow, making a drinking game out of JStay's posts / emails would make one very drunk indeed. |
| 03:16.25 | tensai | he will revoke ops from anybody not on his ops list after a split |
| 03:16.51 | findlay | so he's like the front end to the policy server |
| 03:17.10 | tensai | findlay: that sounds like a reasonable summation |
| 03:17.37 | findlay | does it converge? |
| 03:17.45 | tensai | RyanE: well, I'd be drinking virgin anyway. not sure my bladder could take that sort of abuse though. |
| 03:18.44 | findlay | I prefer hydrogen oxide |
| 03:19.11 | tensai | findlay: you kidding? that stuff can kill you! |
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| 03:20.47 | findlay | nah |
| 03:24.30 | Supaplex | dhmo! |
| 03:26.48 | findlay | I drank a liter of it in one drink today |
| 03:27.04 | findlay | before I went out running |
| 03:27.29 | Supaplex | I have a moderate immunity to dhmo |
| 03:27.31 | RyanE | my brother and I used to have water drinking contests before bedtime. Not too bright were we. |
| 03:27.39 | findlay | haha |
| 03:27.44 | Supaplex | I call top bunk |
| 03:27.51 | RyanE | yeah, *he* was top bunk |
| 03:27.59 | Supaplex | haha |
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| 03:39.23 | findlay | wow, 2008 already |
| 03:39.38 | findlay | we better not have any more new years or we'll run out of numbers |
| 03:39.40 | Supaplex | w00t |
| 03:39.51 | Supaplex | where's the memo? |
| 03:40.14 | findlay | so just slow it down, everybody. We don't want to fall off the track of time into a temporal abyss |
| 03:43.01 | atoponce | tensai: chanserv doesn't need to be in the channel to make that happen |
| 03:45.37 | atoponce | the only reason chanserv needs to stay in the channel, is if there aren't enough to guard it from takeovers |
| 03:46.07 | Supaplex | but can't an op just ... fix that when demand requires? |
| 03:46.19 | atoponce | fix what? |
| 03:46.20 | Supaplex | what's the big deal anyway, who cares if ChanServ is in here or not. |
| 03:46.31 | Supaplex | a takeover |
| 03:46.42 | atoponce | i don't think it's a big deal, just fyi is all |
| 03:46.48 | Lakshmi | hey ya'll |
| 03:47.28 | atoponce | no. if the channel isn't regged, takeovers are fairly easy |
| 03:49.55 | atoponce | but ops after a netsplit will stay if the user is in the access list |
| 03:53.13 | atoponce | ops really shouldn't be used unless needed anyway. what's the point of idling as an op? |
| 03:56.04 | Supaplex | fun and profit |
| 03:56.13 | Supaplex | er, for QA testing of hunt? |
| 03:59.04 | atoponce | heh |
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| 06:56.50 | brac | [~ |
| 06:56.50 | brac | ~say Many changes of mind and mood; do not hesitate too long. |
| 06:56.51 | ibot | Many changes of mind and mood; do not hesitate too long. |
| 06:56.51 | brac | ~] |
| 07:00.54 | levi | Man, Windows Terminal Services works a lot better than tightvnc on XP. :P |
| 07:16.29 | Supaplex | as does rdesktop |
| 07:17.24 | findlay | -fortune |
| 07:17.24 | brac | Don't go surfing in South Dakota for a while. |
| 07:17.29 | findlay | ok |
| 07:17.35 | findlay | brac, op? |
| 07:17.35 | brac | beats me |
| 07:17.38 | Lakshmi | hi findlay |
| 07:17.42 | findlay | ~hi Lakshmi |
| 07:17.43 | ibot | Many greetings, Lakshmi, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 07:17.54 | findlay | levi: ping |
| 07:26.37 | findlay | ping, pingo, pingorama |
| 07:28.06 | levi | findlay: pong |
| 07:28.13 | findlay | yay |
| 07:28.25 | findlay | levi: do you know anything about UVSC's grade codes? |
| 07:28.44 | findlay | there's lots of different evil grades and I don't see any explanation anywhere |
| 07:29.07 | levi | What do you mean by grade codes? |
| 07:29.12 | findlay | I guess you're just supposed to know, or they expect you to be too embarassed to ask |
| 07:29.36 | findlay | like UW, or E, or SORRY DUDE |
| 07:29.45 | findlay | well, not that last one, but that's what I feel like |
| 07:31.01 | levi | Well, UW is unofficial withdrawal; i.e. you just stopped going at some point but never officially dropped the class. |
| 07:31.21 | findlay | hm |
| 07:31.37 | levi | An E is the next step below D, instead of F. |
| 07:31.51 | levi | An I would be an incomplete. |
| 07:32.13 | findlay | hm |
| 07:32.21 | findlay | thanks |
| 07:32.23 | levi | Any others you want me to interpret? |
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| 07:32.36 | levi | (I have lots of experience with them from BYU. ;) ) |
| 07:32.48 | Supaplex | ~lart 2007 |
| 07:32.48 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at 2007 |
| 07:32.50 | findlay | no. There was TCR, but I figured that one is transfer credit |
| 07:33.21 | findlay | but I love it when there's a table of data on a website with no key. You're just supposed to know :) |
| 07:34.23 | levi | Grr, I need to sleep, but I'm having trouble getting a Wireshark windows build to pick up my new plugin when it makes the installer. |
| 07:35.03 | levi | Kind of a convoluted development environment, too. |
| 07:35.57 | levi | I VPN into my office network from home. From there I run an RDP session to my work desktop. From there I open a VMWare image that has the windows dev tools set up. |
| 07:36.23 | Supaplex | wahou, connect the straws |
| 07:36.49 | Supaplex | 14ft later "Hey! It's not working!" |
| 07:37.10 | tyler_ | Two pots of coffee and four burittos == death |
| 07:37.20 | levi | Oh, and I run the make command from within emacs. |
| 07:37.47 | Supaplex | how big is the vmware image? Does it need anything else on the network? |
| 07:38.36 | levi | Way too big to download. |
| 07:38.59 | levi | Doing it this way isn't actually that awkward once I get everything loaded. |
| 07:39.29 | Supaplex | I see. |
| 07:39.41 | Supaplex | way too big to sneakernet next time you're local to it? |
| 07:40.38 | levi | Syncing changes would be more inconvenient than doing things this way. |
| 07:40.48 | levi | Really the only issue is a slightly jerky mouse. |
| 07:41.04 | Supaplex | ahh, cool. |
| 07:41.08 | Supaplex | tollerable atleast. |
| 07:46.37 | findlay | ~jerk |
| 07:46.38 | ibot | well, jerk is the derivative of acceleration with respect to time |
| 07:46.48 | findlay | how did you know? |
| 07:55.33 | findlay | yay for levi's convolved work environment |
| 08:15.41 | levi | Yay, I finally figured out which stupid file I had to edit to get my plugin to go into the installer. |
| 08:29.28 | Supaplex | hurrawh |
| 08:32.05 | Supaplex | http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5YB1Mmx7E4 |
| 08:32.13 | findlay | ~watch Supaplex |
| 08:32.14 | ibot | ACTION oogles Supaplex closely |
| 08:32.17 | levi | It's not all that convoluted. Just RDP over a VPN. |
| 08:32.29 | findlay | yeah, well, metaphores and all |
| 08:37.59 | levi | OK, sleep time. |
| 08:40.40 | Tene | Tonight in #parrot someone who had never worked with parrot before implemented a basic lolcode compiler in about two hours. |
| 08:40.59 | Tene | print statements, comments, variables, assignment. |
| 08:48.40 | Sargun | Tene, nice |
| 08:49.41 | Sargun | Tene, What's your day job? |
| 08:49.47 | Sargun | levi, are you still a student? |
| 08:52.44 | Tene | Sargun: instructor for Guru Labs |
| 08:53.46 | Sargun | Ah |
| 08:53.47 | Sargun | Fun |
| 08:54.01 | Sargun | RHCX? |
| 08:54.35 | Sargun | RHCE, RHCT, RHCA, RHCX? |
| 08:54.38 | Sargun | What else? |
| 08:55.18 | Tene | guru labs courses |
| 08:55.56 | Sargun | No RH courses at all? |
| 08:56.37 | Sargun | Tene, please edit this http://www.gurulabs.com/goodies/Using_Linux_and_Bluetooth_DUN_with_the_Treo650.php |
| 08:56.41 | brac | [Guru Labs] |
| 08:56.53 | Sargun | to include sdptool browse to get the device's channel for DUN |
| 08:57.53 | Tene | Sargun: *also* guru labs courses. |
| 08:58.04 | Tene | We teach a lot of red hat courses too. |
| 08:58.37 | Sargun | yeah |
| 08:59.27 | Sargun | What topics do you train on |
| 09:00.27 | Sargun | Linux |
| 09:00.29 | Sargun | "Linux" |
| 09:00.42 | Tene | Pretty much. Mostly focused on server admin stuff. |
| 09:01.05 | Tene | http://blog.simon-cozens.org/post/view/1323 -- blog post about lolcode implementation on parrot |
| 09:02.16 | Sargun | oh |
| 09:02.23 | Sargun | "networking" |
| 11:54.39 | tyler_ | Where's Guru Labs out of? |
| 11:56.18 | tyler_ | Bountiful, i guess |
| 14:30.50 | ^Migs^ | where do you live right now, tyler? |
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| 15:57.58 | goozbach | redbeard2: I remembered! http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/12/21 notice anything wierd about those cookies? |
| 15:57.58 | brac | [Penny Arcade! - The Next-Gen] |
| 15:59.25 | redbeard2 | goozbach: well, they're crude humor, to be sure... i'm not sure what you're getting at tho |
| 16:00.25 | goozbach | the crude humor |
| 16:00.32 | goozbach | I thought they were FUNNY |
| 16:00.43 | goozbach | aparently they are called... |
| 16:00.45 | goozbach | wait for it... |
| 16:00.49 | goozbach | Dickerdoodles |
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| 16:01.40 | bonez44 | how can I tell if I am running PPPoE? |
| 16:03.45 | Kemotaha | Check your modem |
| 16:03.48 | Kemotaha | It should say |
| 16:03.57 | bonez44 | I have something running which is altering my /etc/resolv.conf without letting me know |
| 16:04.20 | Kemotaha | probably not PPPoE |
| 16:04.21 | goozbach | bonez44: which distro? |
| 16:04.31 | Kemotaha | Probably just a renewing of your DHCP lease |
| 16:04.33 | goozbach | more than likley your dhcp client |
| 16:04.50 | goozbach | on Fedora/Redhat put the line: |
| 16:04.55 | goozbach | PEERDNS=no |
| 16:05.00 | goozbach | into your interface config file |
| 16:05.18 | goozbach | or if you are sure you don't want that file to change you can always run: |
| 16:05.27 | goozbach | chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:05.45 | Kemotaha | goozbach: that's a hack and you know it :) |
| 16:06.08 | goozbach | yes it's a hack, but it works |
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| 16:11.05 | elg | tensai: cool, how's it working for you? |
| 16:11.48 | tensai | elg: well enough to keep working on it. I like being able to hack on different parts of the code without making a mess of my diffs. |
| 16:12.49 | tensai | and I like being able to commit locally so I don't lose my changes, but without committing the feature to trunk. |
| 16:13.23 | tensai | I think right now I'm just sipping the kool-aid |
| 16:14.43 | elg | don't get any on your shirt |
| 16:15.44 | tensai | I splashed chile sauce all over my shirt the other day |
| 16:16.10 | elg | see, that's what happens when you're not careful |
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| 16:24.13 | levi | Anyone here have a DSLR camera? If so, what kind, and what kind of lenses? |
| 16:25.18 | elg | if you hook my digital camera up to my laptop when on the internet at home, I have a DSL camera |
| 16:25.39 | levi | That's not quite what I meant. :) |
| 16:27.10 | jsmith | I have a wanna-be DSLR |
| 16:27.13 | levi | I'm looking at Pentax K100D and Nikon D40, both entry-level DSLRs for reasonable prices. |
| 16:27.38 | levi | jsmith: Meaning a cheap DSLR or a large point-n-shoot? |
| 16:29.12 | levi | I've got a large point-n-shoot, which is nice in some ways (10x zoom, nice sensor) but also lousy in some (slow to shoot, 'slow' lens, the control knob tends to move when bumped). |
| 16:29.51 | jsmith | levi: Canon's mid-level series... not a true SLR, but the same processor chips, same controls, etc... and not as big as a real SLR |
| 16:30.15 | levi | Mine's a Fuji. |
| 16:31.04 | levi | The real reason I want a DSLR is for the low latency between lining up the shot and the shutter going off. |
| 16:31.33 | jsmith | levi: This is mine, and I'm quite happy with it: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0705/07050703canons5is.asp |
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| 16:31.36 | brac | [Canon PowerShot S5 IS: Digital Photography Review] |
| 16:31.43 | levi | Trying to take pictures of kids is extremely frustrating, since they've moved or changed expression or whatever by the time the shutter goes off. |
| 16:32.26 | levi | jsmith: That's the same basic kind of camera I have, but yours is newer and nicer. |
| 16:36.15 | levi | http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5000/ |
| 16:36.16 | brac | [Fujifilm FinePix S5000 Zoom Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review] |
| 16:37.01 | goozbach | fozzmoo has a couple of digital cameras he'd want in on this conversation |
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| 16:42.04 | levi | fozzmoo: Do you have a digital SLR camera? |
| 16:45.59 | fozzmoo | Not SLR. |
| 16:46.06 | maquis | but it's expensive |
| 16:46.10 | fozzmoo | I have a Fuji S5200 |
| 16:46.14 | dataw0lf | maquis: ah, my gf has that camera. |
| 16:46.23 | maquis | dataw0lf: lucky her |
| 16:46.24 | fozzmoo | It's an almost-DSLR |
| 16:46.34 | dataw0lf | maquis: yea, she got it from her work. |
| 16:46.37 | levi | fozzmoo: Yeah, I have the fuji S5000. |
| 16:46.42 | fozzmoo | I like it. |
| 16:46.55 | fozzmoo | I like the low-light capabilities of the Fuji sensor. |
| 16:47.02 | fozzmoo | I rarely use the flash. |
| 16:47.25 | Supaplex | that better, for the kids and neighbors. |
| 16:47.39 | levi | I'm almost happy with the S5000, but I would like something that shoots faster. |
| 16:47.47 | maquis | i've got a canon a620 |
| 16:48.03 | maquis | it's pretty good for not being a dslr |
| 16:48.05 | levi | And I would like better low-light capability; i.e. a larger-aperture lens. |
| 16:48.09 | Supaplex | well yeah, two cameras shoot faster than one |
| 16:48.41 | levi | I'm talking about the lag between the end of the autofocus and when the shutter actually fires. |
| 16:49.05 | levi | Seems like it takes FOREVER, and it's really hard to shoot moving targets. |
| 16:49.59 | Supaplex | yeah, sometimes my canon A570 IS feels that way. it's usually pretty good |
| 16:52.04 | levi | Hmm, Firefox hung while looking at dpreview. |
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| 16:56.10 | ibot | tickles tuple with a rose bush |
| 16:57.37 | levi | Well, it sort of hung. It really kind of went into the background or something. Odd. |
| 17:01.45 | bonez44 | goozbach: sorry for delay....I am running sarge on the machine in question |
| 17:02.09 | bonez44 | goozbach: I have set a static IP for the machine involved...... |
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| 17:19.15 | levi | This looks like a really sweet zoom lens: http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?refid=263&sku=TAMAF18250DIP* |
| 17:19.36 | levi | 18-250mm! |
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| 17:20.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Heh. mm still means ammunition size to me. |
| 17:21.11 | levi | That's some crazy zoom, there. Nearly 14x. |
| 17:22.29 | goozbach | bonez44: there still may be some dhcp client going off |
| 17:22.43 | goozbach | try the hack: chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:24.48 | bonez44 | scott@fyrenice:~$ chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:24.48 | bonez44 | chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:24.55 | bonez44 | goozbach: I get that ... |
| 17:27.50 | goozbach | which filesystem type is /etc/ using? |
| 17:28.05 | goozbach | is it not ext3 |
| 17:29.09 | bonez44 | yes...ext3 |
| 17:29.29 | RedHeron | fsck /etc |
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| 17:30.58 | dataw0lf | bonez44: try doing it as root. |
| 17:31.08 | bonez44 | try the chattr command? |
| 17:31.11 | dataw0lf | Yes. |
| 17:31.42 | bonez44 | fyrenice:/home/scott# chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:31.42 | bonez44 | chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:31.42 | bonez44 | fyrenice:/home/scott# whoami |
| 17:31.42 | bonez44 | root |
| 17:31.48 | bonez44 | that's the output....as root |
| 17:33.57 | bonez44 | dataw0lf: clearly, I need to back up this system..and reformat and upgrade to etch, before putting everything back on that machine..... |
| 17:34.05 | bonez44 | I know that might clean u p a few problems..... |
| 17:43.44 | bonez44 | ?? |
| 17:44.00 | bonez44 | did I lose my connection? |
| 17:44.49 | bonez44 | everyone head to brunch? did the doughnut truck arrive? |
| 17:44.55 | bonez44 | hmmm |
| 17:46.31 | emcnabb | goozbach... work? |
| 17:46.31 | goozbach | stupid job which expects results :) |
| 17:46.39 | goozbach | emcnabb: you should try it some time |
| 17:46.44 | goozbach | it's pretty satisifing |
| 17:46.48 | emcnabb | cool! |
| 17:46.50 | bonez44 | results are all that matter.....really |
| 17:51.15 | Lone_Wanderer | I finally (kind of sort of am beginning to) understand Lisp macros! |
| 17:57.19 | bonez44 | good for you, Lone |
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| 18:14.55 | findlay | ~macro |
| 18:14.56 | ibot | [macro] /mak'roh/ [techspeak] n. A name (possibly followed by a formal arg list) that is equated to a text or symbolic expression to which it is to be expanded (possibly with the substitution of actual arguments) by a macro expander. This definition can be found in any technical dictionary; what those won't tell you is how the hackish connotations of the term have ... |
| 18:18.52 | Kemotaha | rsimpkins: ping |
| 18:25.51 | sontek | Jayce^: ping |
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| 18:31.36 | brac | [~ |
| 18:31.36 | brac | ~say Never be led astray onto the path of virtue. |
| 18:31.37 | ibot | Never be led astray onto the path of virtue. |
| 18:31.37 | brac | ~] |
| 18:55.02 | findlay | -fortune |
| 18:55.03 | brac | Your business will go through a period of considerable expansion. |
| 19:06.27 | Supaplex | here's a tricky one. using flwm, how do you unmaximize or shrink a maximized firefox window when there's no titlebar? |
| 19:22.39 | findlay | <ctrl><alt><backspace> :) |
| 19:25.23 | Supaplex | as if |
| 19:26.06 | findlay | I've got WM strangeness too. My work computer is much more underpowered, has half the RAM as my home computer, but it runs enlightenment much more smoothly |
| 19:31.32 | findlay | work: celeron+gigabyte, home: athlon64+biostar |
| 19:32.53 | Supaplex | i'm leaning on firefox in a rdp session because it's just eaiser to not have it hog my entire screen |
| 19:37.40 | findlay | that's the idea, outsource your browser to the cloud! |
| 19:37.49 | Supaplex | :) |
| 19:38.10 | Supaplex | ~bite bugs.debian.org/267344 |
| 19:38.10 | ibot | ACTION takes a big bite out of bugs.debian.org/267344's jugular vein |
| 19:38.43 | findlay | that way it won't hog your entire system either :) |
| 19:54.01 | findlay | ~lart girls just because |
| 19:54.01 | ibot | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down girls just because's throat until girls just because puts on 150lbs |
| 19:54.14 | findlay | heh |
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| 19:57.25 | Supaplex | findlay: ibot is brutal :) |
| 19:57.48 | findlay | haha |
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| 20:03.46 | Lone_Luncher | So, sjansen, we meet again. |
| 20:04.13 | findlay | and this time for the last time |
| 20:04.14 | Lone_Luncher | What? No, of course you don't recognize me. |
| 20:04.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes, it is I! Your arch nemesis, who you thought dead! |
| 20:13.06 | Lone_Wanderer | (Thanks findlay.) |
| 20:13.49 | Lone_Wanderer | sjansen... I... *am* your father |
| 20:13.56 | Lone_Wanderer | 's murderer. |
| 20:14.21 | findlay | ~defeat Zurg |
| 20:14.22 | ibot | ACTION declares findlay the winner and Zurg the "runner-up"! |
| 20:14.26 | findlay | yay |
| 20:14.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh God |
| 20:14.45 | Lone_Wanderer | why must we have a separate "addresses" table? |
| 20:15.00 | findlay | renormalization getting you down? |
| 20:15.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Not renormalizing, since "re" implies it was done once and besides I'm not altering the structure, I just have to work within it. |
| 20:15.33 | findlay | or, should I say ... bureaucracitized? |
| 20:16.01 | findlay | :) |
| 20:21.54 | mrpull | so what happened to glenn beck? |
| 20:22.42 | goozbach | mrpull: the fascists got him |
| 20:22.49 | mrpull | oh noes |
| 20:23.01 | mrpull | I heard the tail end of a story that he was in the hospital |
| 20:23.06 | mrpull | but don't know anything else |
| 20:23.13 | goozbach | http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/3413/ |
| 20:23.31 | mrpull | goozbach: so what happened? |
| 20:24.11 | mrpull | other than blood shooting from placed blood shouldn't |
| 20:24.29 | goozbach | don't know |
| 20:24.32 | goozbach | just googled it |
| 20:24.48 | mrpull | it must have been the fascists then |
| 20:25.19 | mrpull | or maybe it was the huckabe camp! |
| 20:31.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Who's Glenn Beck again? |
| 20:31.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Is he the Father's Rights guy? |
| 20:31.58 | mrpull | Lone_Wanderer: a fairly popular "conservative" talk show host |
| 20:32.38 | Lone_Wanderer | ahhh |
| 20:32.38 | mrpull | there seems to be an disproportionately high number of beck fans in #utah |
| 20:32.50 | Lone_Wanderer | Isn't Glenn Beck *from* Utah? |
| 20:32.52 | fozzmoo | Did someone say Glenn Beck? |
| 20:32.58 | fozzmoo | Lone_Wanderer: Nope. |
| 20:33.06 | fozzmoo | He's originally from Mount Vernon, WA |
| 20:33.11 | fozzmoo | Broadcasts out of NYC |
| 20:33.13 | mrpull | fozzmoo: is an expert |
| 20:33.16 | mrpull | I'll step aside |
| 20:33.17 | Lone_Wanderer | eh, okay |
| 20:33.24 | tuple | mrpull: is a human |
| 20:33.37 | mrpull | then ask fozzmoo what actually happened to beck to land him in the hospital |
| 20:33.51 | elg | didn't he get in a fight with hillary? |
| 20:34.02 | dataw0lf | mrpull: Beck is LDS, is why I assume he's disproportionately popular |
| 20:34.05 | mrpull | tuple/elg: how did you come to the conclusion I'm human? |
| 20:34.13 | fozzmoo | I don't really know what happened. |
| 20:34.20 | elg | a bot wouldn't be as lazy as to leave the colon in there |
| 20:34.24 | fozzmoo | There's been a lot of discussion about it in the insider forums. |
| 20:34.35 | fozzmoo | He's had back problems in the past. |
| 20:34.40 | mrpull | dataw0lf: I think that contributes to his popularity in utah, but he is still popular with people of other faiths |
| 20:34.51 | fozzmoo | And there was a mention of a heart issue. |
| 20:35.02 | fozzmoo | It's pretty clear he's been pushing himself really, really hard this last year. |
| 20:35.03 | dataw0lf | I never said he wasn't. You just said he was disproportionately popular, I furthered a reason why. |
| 20:35.47 | mrpull | elg: good point. I am a lazy tab completer. |
| 20:36.02 | mrpull | or maybe I'm a bot pretending to be a lazy human |
| 20:36.31 | mrpull | fozzmoo: I heard something about boils and blood shooting out of his eyes |
| 20:36.41 | elg | i think you're a cat pretending to be abot |
| 20:41.15 | mrpull | hrrmmm... my caller id is showing a 6 digit number |
| 20:41.16 | mrpull | odd |
| 20:41.24 | mrpull | let's not answer that one |
| 20:42.20 | goozbach | answer in spanish |
| 20:42.31 | goozbach | or logiban (sp?) |
| 20:42.32 | mrpull | they left a message |
| 20:44.16 | mrpull | it was somebody reading a script for these jokers |
| 20:44.17 | mrpull | http://www.platinumhdd.com/ |
| 20:44.20 | brac | [Platinum HDD] |
| 20:44.23 | mrpull | don't know how they got my name |
| 20:45.01 | mrpull | "david" with an accent that I can't place |
| 20:45.30 | goozbach | what did they want? |
| 20:45.41 | mrpull | for me to sell their disks |
| 20:47.02 | goozbach | ohh /me reads three lines back |
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| 20:51.25 | brac | [~ |
| 20:51.25 | brac | ~say Someone whom you reject today, will reject you tomorrow. |
| 20:51.26 | ibot | Someone whom you reject today, will reject you tomorrow. |
| 20:51.26 | brac | ~] |
| 21:02.14 | mrpull | what is with the xbmodder crap page followed by a brac quote? |
| 21:02.20 | mrpull | it seems to be somewhat random |
| 21:02.53 | findlay | heh |
| 21:04.59 | pelaofeliz | I think Sargun's ibot onjoing is the link, which causes brac to tell the page title (as it does with all links), which causes ibot to say whatever the title tells it to |
| 21:06.01 | mrpull | is ibot backlogged for onjoin's? |
| 21:10.30 | Supaplex | ibot: onjoin #utah Sargun |
| 21:10.30 | ibot | onjoin for sargun set by sargun on Fri Dec 28 02:12:09 2007: http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/welcome.py |
| 21:10.53 | brac | [~ |
| 21:10.53 | brac | ~say That secret you've been guarding, isn't. |
| 21:10.53 | ibot | That secret you've been guarding, isn't. |
| 21:10.53 | brac | ~] |
| 21:11.47 | mrpull | ibot: onjoin #utah - Sargun |
| 21:11.47 | ibot | mrpull: ok |
| 21:15.18 | mrpull | I see now. I didn't notice the title of page. |
| 21:15.33 | mrpull | I was overwhelmed by the content in the body of the webpage |
| 21:28.44 | goozbach | mrpull: seems xbmodder.us is slow right now, hence the delay in brac responding. |
| 22:10.20 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: pong |
| 22:11.19 | Kemotaha | rsimpkins: what does Omniture use to be able to ack nagios alerts by replying to the SMS page? |
| 22:12.13 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: No clue. |
| 22:12.36 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: Probably a script someone wrote. |
| 22:12.50 | Kemotaha | hmm. Ok |
| 22:13.37 | findlay | wget scripts.omniture.com/that_one_nagios_script.pl |
| 22:13.47 | Kemotaha | hehe |
| 22:13.52 | rsimpkins | Poll - Do you hate flash? If so - why? |
| 22:13.57 | findlay | yes |
| 22:14.04 | findlay | it's proprietary |
| 22:14.06 | Kemotaha | yes/no |
| 22:14.24 | rsimpkins | findlay: So you have a philisophical issue with any software that isn't open source, correct? |
| 22:14.34 | Kemotaha | It is like microsoft applications, if used in the right way it is great but too many people use it in the worng way |
| 22:15.13 | findlay | I dislike it because it's proprietary on principle, but the more annoying issue is that because it's proprietary it by virtue of copyright licensing fanaticism cannot be made seamless in my browsing experience |
| 22:15.20 | rsimpkins | Kemotaha: Wrong way? The purpose, and tell me if I'm wrong, is to get someone to do something by making the thing more visually appealing. |
| 22:15.43 | findlay | even on proprietary platforms you have to dl and maintain flash by hand |
| 22:15.45 | Kemotaha | I know it is vague |
| 22:15.47 | rsimpkins | findlay: So, what do you do when you visit a web site with flash? |
| 22:16.00 | findlay | rsimpkins: I have *.swf adblocked :) |
| 22:16.22 | Kemotaha | Like coding an entire webpage in flash is wrong. Code a game or an applet type thing in flash is ok |
| 22:17.02 | findlay | if flash were in the same category of openness as javascript, I'd probably accept it |
| 22:17.05 | sontek | rsimpkins: I don't like flash because in Linux its unstable, my firefox crashes a lot when going through youtube/googvid |
| 22:17.40 | sontek | rsimpkins: its mainly when closing tabs with a flash applet on it that it crashes, but its very annoying |
| 22:17.44 | rsimpkins | sontek: So you don't participate with sites like youtube, etc? |
| 22:18.33 | sontek | rsimpkins: I try to avoid them when I don't want my browser to crash, if i'm just being lazy and looking to burn sometime, I'll browse them |
| 22:19.04 | findlay | sontek: gnash crashes a lot too :) |
| 22:19.18 | sontek | rsimpkins: but if I have any important tabs up, or reading news/blogs I wont go to them for fear of crashing |
| 22:19.20 | findlay | but it tends to crash X as well for me |
| 22:20.27 | dmdavis | sontek: FYI, I use tab mix plus, so I don't have to really worry about Firefox crashing. if so, it will restore my session |
| 22:20.45 | dmdavis | sontek: might help you browse with a bit more reckless abandon |
| 22:22.52 | sontek | dmdavis: Firefox restores my tabs, but the problem is it restores the tab that crashed my browser too |
| 22:23.09 | dmdavis | sontek: ah, I've gotten that |
| 22:23.39 | findlay | epiphany has an exception for that case |
| 22:24.01 | findlay | it won't load the crashing tab |
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| 22:51.43 | Supaplex | humm.. discount tire seems to be my ally... again at $0.07/100m a tire before labor. |
| 23:26.10 | rsimpkins | plug.org updated with meeting details. |
| 23:26.16 | rsimpkins | I hope everyone can attend this meeting. |
| 23:38.55 | rsimpkins | herlo: Can you try and make people aware for us? |
| 23:39.13 | rsimpkins | It's kinda short notice coming in after the holiday like this. |
| 23:39.29 | rsimpkins | But, hopefully everyone is mostly around. |
| 23:40.03 | herlo | rsimpkins: I'll see what I can do... |
| 23:40.07 | herlo | what day again? |
| 23:40.15 | herlo | the 9th? |
| 23:44.33 | rsimpkins | Yup. |
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