| 00:44.02 | findlay | is it possible to rename a file in a .tar.bz2 archive? |
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| 01:53.22 | RyanE | http://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellanea/archive/2007-06-23--periodic-table-of-the-internet.html |
| 01:53.24 | brac | [Wellington Grey -- Miscellanea -- Periodic Table of the |
| 01:53.24 | brac | Internet] |
| 01:59.26 | tensai | findlay: no. possibly if it's uncompressed, but definitely not when it is compressed. |
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| 02:13.17 | sjansen | ~prune redbeard2 |
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| 03:24.29 | Lakshmi | ~onjoin lakshmi |
| 03:24.29 | ibot | onjoin for lakshmi set by supaplex on Thu Dec 27 09:14:41 2007: oh, hi there lakshimi, how are you today? :) |
| 03:25.00 | Supaplex | hi :) |
| 03:25.07 | Lakshmi | hey Supaplex |
| 03:25.08 | Lakshmi | sup? |
| 03:25.20 | Lakshmi | happy new year if i havent said it to you |
| 03:25.29 | Supaplex | done with my nap for now |
| 03:25.34 | Lakshmi | thats cool |
| 03:25.35 | Lakshmi | and good |
| 03:25.44 | Lakshmi | hows everything else |
| 03:26.07 | redbeard2 | ~rosebud sjansen |
| 03:28.12 | Supaplex | ~thorn redbeard2 |
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| 05:05.16 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.30 | Supaplex | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.47 | Supaplex | strange. it's not normally this high. |
| 05:12.22 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.31 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.15 | sontek | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.17 | sontek | :( |
| 05:13.22 | Lakshmi | what is this? |
| 05:13.27 | sontek | i'm the weakest link? |
| 05:13.54 | Supaplex | ahh, ssh is going nuts with a few script kidd0s |
| 05:16.39 | Supaplex | what's it mean when htop has (!) in the uptime? |
| 05:33.49 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.37 | sontek | Sargun: you don't have to wave it around! We get the point! You are more of a man! |
| 05:35.03 | Sargun | Haha |
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| 05:40.50 | undertakingyou | With zero users why not be up 426 days though? |
| 06:08.53 | Supaplex | mine doesn't track users, but it's what powers my irssi session. |
| 06:09.06 | Supaplex | and routing, dhcp, firewalling, and other fun stuff. |
| 06:49.27 | findlay | whatever. firefox 3 is still as much a spacious thinker as ever |
| 06:55.40 | herlo | Supaplex: I'd like to point out that your uptime numbers just mean that its been 426 days since you updated your kernel. Thus allowing 426 days of kernel updates, exploits and other security items go unmanaged |
| 06:58.59 | sontek | my uptimes suffer because I like to re-organize my office |
| 07:04.49 | tensai | 12:05am up 1335 days, 22:36, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.62, 0.61 |
| 07:04.54 | tensai | what do I win? |
| 07:06.10 | sontek | 2 inches |
| 07:06.18 | tensai | sweeeeet |
| 07:08.29 | sontek | i'll be back! |
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| 07:09.05 | sontek | i've returned |
| 07:09.37 | tensai | can you turn water into wine? |
| 07:09.52 | sontek | will mt.dew work? |
| 07:10.24 | tensai | around here it probably would |
| 07:11.27 | herlo | tensai: you win a cracked box |
| 07:15.44 | tensai | I get two prizes? what a great year this is turning out to be. |
| 07:16.14 | Tene | tensai: you win a herlo |
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| 07:17.33 | herlo | woohoo! |
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| 07:25.05 | Sargun | teabeer, haha |
| 07:25.18 | Sargun | tensai, come back in tomorrow + some |
| 07:25.26 | Sargun | 1337 |
| 07:25.31 | Sargun | tensai, what is that |
| 07:25.50 | tensai | SS7 phone switch |
| 07:43.21 | findlay | hello |
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| 07:48.03 | rsimpkins | why is no one typing with capital letters in their sentances nor using any puncutation of any sort unless it suits their particular angst it is like IRC is one big gigantic run one sentance |
| 07:49.02 | rsimpkins | it is hard enought of fllw what people type with the mislepleing s and typos let along trying to decifer without at least some semblance of sentance structure. |
| 07:49.09 | rsimpkins | Oops, I used a period. Shoot! |
| 07:49.24 | rsimpkins | Well, that's it folks. IRC is over. I ended it. |
| 07:49.41 | herlo | dman! what will I do no |
| 07:49.44 | herlo | ? |
| 07:49.50 | herlo | now |
| 07:50.45 | rsimpkins | herlo: Party like it's 2008. |
| 07:51.37 | sontek | ~lart rsimpkins |
| 07:51.37 | ibot | shoves a crumpet down rsimpkins's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 07:51.50 | rsimpkins | Yes please. |
| 09:13.14 | Tene | -chat elg hates |
| 09:13.15 | brac | elg hates |
| 09:36.08 | tensai | elg hates puppies |
| 09:36.17 | Tene | -chat elg hates |
| 09:36.17 | brac | elg hates puppies |
| 09:36.58 | tensai | apparently not a lot of puppy bashing going on |
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| 16:56.28 | levi | atoponce: The shaking was supposed to get your brain back in sync with reality. I'm afraid it didn't work. |
| 16:59.27 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 17:03.02 | atoponce | levi: i'm wondering how you can safely assume they will not be using the emacs codebase after describing it as emacs.net |
| 17:03.17 | levi | atoponce: I'm explaining it in a comment on your blog right now. |
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| 17:04.38 | levi | atoponce: It comes down to you not understanding the Zen of Emacs, I think. |
| 17:04.48 | atoponce | i guess not |
| 17:06.18 | levi | atoponce: Ponder this: emacs was initially implemented as a set of TECO macros. |
| 17:06.38 | levi | atoponce: GNU emacs obviously shares none of that code. |
| 17:06.48 | levi | And the comment is posted to your blog now. |
| 17:07.41 | levi | There were also several editors on Lisp Machines that could roughly be described as emacs, but shared no code with each other. |
| 17:07.56 | levi | emacs is not a codebase, it's a philosophy on how to build an editor. |
| 17:08.14 | atoponce | i see |
| 17:08.17 | atoponce | that makes more sense then |
| 17:08.20 | levi | GNU emacs is simply an incarnation of that philosophy. |
| 17:09.30 | sontek | atoponce: becaus they alrady have the codebase for visual studio. It has a powerful edior, with syntax highlighting and intellisense. Theres no reason to use the emacs codebase when they can just build a modal editor on top of what they've already developed |
| 17:09.32 | tyler_ | Anyone know of any IT openings in northern Utah? |
| 17:10.08 | levi | sontek: I don't think they're planning on using Visual Studio either. |
| 17:10.09 | sontek | atoponce: and you are only looking at the first part of the description... 'emacs' you are forgetting the '.net' part, meaning, its going to be wrote in .net |
| 17:10.43 | sontek | levi: I think they will leverage the visual studio editor, just not anything else from it |
| 17:10.52 | sontek | levi: it takes a long time to write a decent editor |
| 17:11.08 | sontek | levi: and visual studio's is probably one of the best around |
| 17:11.14 | levi | sontek: That would be very much denying the whole emacs nature of the idea. |
| 17:11.45 | levi | But I suppose it is a possibility. |
| 17:12.21 | sontek | levi: no it wouldn't, all they need to do is add modes and decent keybindings |
| 17:12.22 | dataw0lf | sontek: Visual Studio is a great IDE. It's editor could use some work. |
| 17:12.27 | ^Migs^ | what area in northern Utah, tyler_? |
| 17:12.32 | dataw0lf | Its* |
| 17:12.37 | levi | sontek: Are you an emacs user? |
| 17:12.51 | tyler_ | Migs: Between Bountiful and O-Town. |
| 17:13.00 | sontek | levi: nope, vim |
| 17:13.11 | eco | VIM!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 17:13.12 | levi | sontek: See, you don't seem to understand the emacs-nature, either. |
| 17:13.23 | ^Migs^ | cool, my area |
| 17:13.32 | ^Migs^ | my pad |
| 17:13.37 | ^Migs^ | mad propz to mah homie tyler |
| 17:13.37 | levi | sontek: What you're describing would work fine for a project roughly described as 'vim.net' |
| 17:13.45 | tyler_ | Migs: :D haha. |
| 17:13.46 | ^Migs^ | I don't think we're hiring in the district right now |
| 17:13.54 | tyler_ | Who you working or at the moment? |
| 17:13.57 | tyler_ | for, rather |
| 17:13.59 | ^Migs^ | Weber School District |
| 17:14.07 | levi | sontek: vim' |
| 17:14.08 | tyler_ | Right on |
| 17:14.10 | levi | Er. |
| 17:14.15 | sontek | levi: either way, they don't need to write a whole new text editor from scratch, they have a pretty decent one already done. |
| 17:14.28 | sontek | levi: they can just build the emacs 'nature' around the editor |
| 17:14.32 | ^Migs^ | if you're looking for a high-paying job, you wouldn't want to work for a school district anyway |
| 17:14.33 | tyler_ | ^Migs^: If you find anything, would you mind shooting me a note? |
| 17:14.46 | levi | sontek: You can't build the 'emacs nature' around an existing, hardcoded editor. |
| 17:14.47 | tyler_ | Well, and that's the thing.. I've been told to apply there but I need 50k or more |
| 17:15.03 | tyler_ | So unless you can provide that for me at Weber, I'd have to pass |
| 17:15.10 | ^Migs^ | depends on what you're doing |
| 17:15.13 | tyler_ | Although, I AM applying at walmart as we speak |
| 17:15.19 | ^Migs^ | that's a good temp job |
| 17:15.21 | tyler_ | So money is better than nothing. |
| 17:15.35 | ^Migs^ | I've had in-between temp jobs while being otherwise unemployed |
| 17:15.37 | sontek | levi: its not a harcoded editor, its very extensible, how do you think they support C++, C#, VB, Ruby, etc. |
| 17:15.45 | tyler_ | ^Migs^: Definitely. |
| 17:15.50 | levi | sontek: If you were to take a couple of months really learning emacs, you'd see the point I'm trying to make. I don't think it's easy to grasp for vim users. |
| 17:16.04 | ^Migs^ | I'd say just look up stuff in the newspaper, craigslist, etc. |
| 17:16.07 | tyler_ | levi: Are you a linux user? |
| 17:16.15 | levi | tyler_: Yes, on occasion. |
| 17:16.21 | tyler_ | ^Migs^: bah, been there done that. |
| 17:16.25 | sontek | levi: I've been planning on it, it just sucks having to learn new editors when you are so good at one already |
| 17:16.51 | tyler_ | I've put in a good hundred and fifty apps so far, posted resumes, and scoured the papers/magazines |
| 17:17.03 | tyler_ | Everyones on a holiday-hiatus |
| 17:17.16 | levi | sontek: Indeed, and if vim works fine for you, there's no great need to learn emacs. But it's a very different kind of system than vim is, and the difference in philosophy is not clear from the outside. |
| 17:17.16 | tyler_ | levi: What are you running, primarily? |
| 17:17.24 | levi | tyler_: Debian and Ubuntu. |
| 17:17.38 | tyler_ | I see. |
| 17:17.51 | tyler_ | Debian with a linux kernel? |
| 17:18.02 | levi | I also run Windows and QNX for most of my work at the moment. |
| 17:18.32 | levi | Though I've got an Ubuntu machine that I cross-compile my QNX code on. |
| 17:18.57 | levi | And yes, Debian with a linux kernel. I don't see any practical reason to use any other Debian kernels. |
| 17:19.23 | tyler_ | Practicality is always ignored |
| 17:19.55 | tyler_ | It wouldn't surprise me if you ran a different OS with Debian |
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| 17:20.04 | levi | sontek: vim is fairly scriptable with vimscript or whatever, but with emacs, practically the entire behavior of the editor is written in the internal scripting language. |
| 17:20.31 | tyler_ | emacs is lisp based, no? |
| 17:20.33 | fungus | the "internal scripting language" isn't just emacs internal. |
| 17:20.37 | fungus | It's lisp |
| 17:20.59 | levi | fungus: It's elisp, which has some rather fundamental differences from other modern lisps. |
| 17:21.05 | tyler_ | Such as? |
| 17:21.13 | levi | Such as the fact that it's dynamically scoped. |
| 17:21.41 | levi | Most modern Lisps, including Common Lisp and Scheme, are lexically scoped. |
| 17:22.11 | levi | Though Common Lisp provides dynamic variables, and many Schemes do as well. |
| 17:22.32 | sontek | levi: but either way, we got off topic, the point is they aren't going to be using emacs codbas :P |
| 17:22.39 | levi | sontek: Indeed. |
| 17:22.55 | levi | This channel is all about going off-topic, anyway. |
| 17:24.14 | tyler_ | The topic is off topic, in other words |
| 17:27.12 | levi | Well, just look at the channel topic line. |
| 17:27.28 | tyler_ | indeed |
| 17:29.22 | levi | fungus: Anyway, my point is that you can't take code written for emacs and run it anywhere else, so it is essentially just an internal scripting language. |
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| 17:31.09 | bonez44 | greetings |
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| 17:34.36 | Lone_Wanderer | mmmm, schizoid delusions |
| 17:35.51 | tyler_ | Wow, NPR is very boring today. |
| 17:35.54 | tyler_ | More so than usual. |
| 17:38.51 | Lone_Wanderer | NPR is fascinating. You lie. |
| 17:40.19 | bonez44 | I usually fine NPR intriguing..what's so boring about today's shows? |
| 17:41.18 | sontek | Right now is the Dian Rehm show, thats *always* boring |
| 17:41.27 | sontek | wait until 11 when RadioWest comes on |
| 17:43.32 | Lone_Wanderer | I like Dianne (sp?) Rehm |
| 17:43.53 | Heartsbane | Diane Reem Sux, k thx, Talk of the Nation FTW!!! |
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| 17:44.16 | Shadowwire | ~lart pipes |
| 17:44.17 | ibot | calls pipes on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 17:44.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Diane Rehm is a l33t t@lk sh0 h0$t |
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| 17:45.11 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 17:45.11 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 17:45.26 | sontek | I always feel like playing roulette when Dianne is on |
| 17:45.29 | sontek | -roulette |
| 17:45.29 | brac | sontek: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 17:45.33 | sontek | darn! |
| 17:45.46 | Shadowwire | -figlet ROULETTE |
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| 17:46.09 | sontek | ~lart Shadowwire |
| 17:46.09 | ibot | makes a balloon animal out of Shadowwire |
| 17:46.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Clearly I need to switch to a monospace font. |
| 17:46.42 | rsimpkins | I really dislike Diane Rehm herself, but I find her topics and guests interesting - so I usually listen any way. |
| 17:46.45 | Lone_Wanderer | There we go. |
| 17:46.54 | Lone_Wanderer | What don't you like about her? |
| 17:47.05 | sontek | Lone_Wanderer: the tone of her voice |
| 17:47.07 | Shadowwire | I dont like her shoes. |
| 17:47.25 | Lone_Wanderer | The tone of voice, or the fact that it sounds all weird? |
| 17:47.33 | levi | Her odd voice is due to a disease, IIRC. |
| 17:47.56 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah it is |
| 17:47.56 | sontek | Disease or not, its hard to listen to. |
| 17:48.04 | Lone_Wanderer | apparently Scott Adams has the same thing |
| 17:48.11 | Lone_Wanderer | the Dilbert guy |
| 17:48.11 | Shadowwire | IIRC is a disease? |
| 17:48.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, it afflicts millions. |
| 17:48.52 | levi | If I couldn't remember correctly, that would be a disease. :P |
| 17:49.11 | rsimpkins | Not just her voice - it's her silly questions. And, sometimes I swear her mind goes to mush and she asks totally inappropriate questions. |
| 17:56.05 | bonez44 | sontek: personal opinion...mere opinion....I happen to enjoy Diane's show.....but it took me a while to get past her odd voice |
| 17:56.37 | bonez44 | rsimpkins: don't ALL reporters, interviewers ask assinine questions at times...? |
| 17:57.09 | Shadowwire | Yes, All. |
| 17:57.13 | bonez44 | the ones that kill me is when someone's just lost a spouse, or child, to some tragic accident..and they ask them "How do you feel?????" how the hell would anyone feel.....sheesh.... |
| 17:57.54 | Shadowwire | I feel like killing a reporter. |
| 17:58.18 | Shadowwire | "" |
| 17:58.29 | bonez44 | now now...that's a bit harsh |
| 17:58.41 | Shadowwire | the ""? |
| 17:58.45 | bonez44 | I think it's the industry and nature of the business that makes them ask dumb things |
| 17:59.05 | bonez44 | no, the undertaking of any reporter |
| 18:02.48 | bonez44 | hmmm ok...if I ever take up journalism, I'll not tell you....heheh, don't want you to blast me Lone_Wanderer |
| 18:03.07 | Lone_Wanderer | I wouldn't actually kill them. Probably. |
| 18:03.08 | huslu | which channel reporter did ask that question ? |
| 18:03.12 | Lone_Wanderer | But I might say that I feel like it. |
| 18:03.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Actually I'd probably say something like "That's the most retarded question I've ever heard. Are you completely braindead?" |
| 18:04.12 | bonez44 | huslu: I have seen that question asked by everyone....during any shooting, or death, or tragedy....they ask...How does that feel, when I think the person being interviewed would likely want to shove the mic up the interviewers arse or nose or in their ear..... |
| 18:04.40 | dataw0lf | on the other hand, you have to consider why they even agreed to an interview in the first place. |
| 18:04.45 | huslu | i must say bbc doesn't ask that question as far as i know. |
| 18:05.15 | bonez44 | ok, it's not universally asked then.....I haven't ever heard Jim Lehrer or anyone on his show ask that sort of question.... |
| 18:05.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Of course not, they're British. |
| 18:05.58 | huslu | but "news" outlets that play on sensationalism do that. |
| 18:06.43 | bonez44 | ah, the News Hour with Mr. Lehrer specifically avoids that sort of stance..... |
| 18:06.50 | bonez44 | that's why I like the news there |
| 18:07.06 | dataw0lf | yes, because the BBC doesn't engage in sensationalism. |
| 18:07.37 | huslu | um, i think it does it quite a bit less than say, fox news. |
| 18:08.17 | dataw0lf | you can compare anything to Fox News and make it look good. |
| 18:08.26 | dataw0lf | "aw, the dog just pooed on the floor again" |
| 18:08.32 | dataw0lf | "yea, well, at least it isn't Fox News" |
| 18:08.33 | goozbach | -figlet I AM NOT A CROOK!!! |
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| 18:09.08 | brac | \___ \ / _ \| '__|| | / _ \ | | | |/ __|| || | | | |
| 18:09.10 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.12 | brac | |____/ \___||_| |_| \___/ \__,_||___/|_| \__, |(_) |
| 18:09.14 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.15 | dataw0lf | I feel like I'm on UnderNet. |
| 18:09.18 | brac | -roulette is |
| 18:09.22 | Lone_Wanderer | See how annoying that is? Don't do it. |
| 18:09.32 | goozbach | elg: mind turning off figlet on your bot? |
| 18:09.40 | Lone_Wanderer | PLEASE turn off figlet. |
| 18:09.44 | goozbach | I was testing to see how much it would do |
| 18:09.49 | goozbach | I don't want it either |
| 18:09.59 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.20 | elg | or, /kick Lone_Wanderer |
| 18:10.27 | goozbach | I don't want to ignore brac |
| 18:10.36 | goozbach | he is marginallly usefull |
| 18:10.36 | Lone_Wanderer | But I love brac =( |
| 18:10.58 | elg | we love you brac |
| 18:11.10 | Heartsbane | I hate brac |
| 18:11.27 | sontek | -yum remov figlet |
| 18:11.30 | sontek | whoops |
| 18:11.36 | sontek | -yum remove figlet |
| 18:11.43 | sontek | darn |
| 18:11.53 | *** mode/#utah [+o brac] by ChanServ |
| 18:12.10 | Heartsbane | -kill -9 sontek |
| 18:13.40 | sontek | -pkill Heartsbane |
| 18:13.52 | rsimpkins | killall -9 #utah |
| 18:14.16 | sontek | Heartsbane: your command was invalid! It has to be a process id when using kill! |
| 18:14.48 | elg | ~say -kick Heartsbane |
| 18:14.49 | ibot | -kick Heartsbane |
| 18:14.59 | elg | see how well-behaved he is? |
| 18:15.08 | elg | he doesn't even join the robot revolution |
| 18:27.56 | rsimpkins | -cpustats |
| 18:41.51 | Lone_Wanderer | If I knew it was going to be like this I'd have never joined the Army. |
| 18:47.37 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: You joined the Army? |
| 18:48.04 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
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| 18:51.27 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: Why are you regretting it now? |
| 18:51.55 | levi | My dad was in the Army, so I knew enough to know I didn't want to join. |
| 18:55.32 | Lone_Wanderer | >.> |
| 18:55.35 | Lone_Wanderer | It's the girls. |
| 18:55.38 | Lone_Wanderer | They won't leave me alone. |
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| 19:04.00 | sontek | I want to be in the army |
| 19:04.06 | sontek | they get all the ladies |
| 19:06.24 | sontek | if I have a screen tab, that has a screen opened, how do I detach the screen inside the tab, rather than the main screen session? |
| 19:08.36 | maquis | ^A a d |
| 19:08.44 | maquis | (i believe that should work) |
| 19:08.59 | findlay | that's it |
| 19:09.19 | findlay | s/ll/l/ |
| 19:22.06 | sontek | maquis: thanks! |
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| 19:24.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone here have experience installing Rock Box on an iPod? |
| 19:28.32 | dataw0lf | Lone_Wanderer: ask tierra, I know that he has. |
| 19:28.47 | Lone_Wanderer | mmkay |
| 19:30.51 | Lone_Wanderer | I need anti-dandruff shampoo for my eyebrows. |
| 19:31.34 | dataw0lf | you need a lot more than that but I suppose it's a start. |
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| 19:31.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes, I need other things as well :p |
| 19:39.18 | emcnabb_ | jsmith-away, herlo looks like you guys are going to FUDcon? |
| 19:40.18 | sontek | ~flog fedora |
| 19:40.19 | ibot | ACTION whips fedora with a cat-5 o' nine tails |
| 19:40.47 | emcnabb | ~lart sontek |
| 19:40.47 | ibot | slaps sontek upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 19:41.08 | goozbach | Lone_Wanderer: fozzmoo has I think |
| 19:41.16 | emcnabb | this is the first time I've been on IRC in two or three months... what's happening to me? |
| 19:41.17 | goozbach | but not an Ipod, it was a cowan |
| 19:41.33 | emcnabb | goozbach: I was down in your stomping grounds all last week |
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| 19:48.31 | Shadowwire | Sup. |
| 19:48.51 | Shadowwire | -help onjoin |
| 19:48.52 | brac | no help for topic onjoin |
| 19:51.50 | goozbach | emcnabb: why didn't you call, I was off all last week |
| 19:52.00 | goozbach | ? |
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| 20:06.08 | emcnabb | goozbach: I completely forgot |
| 20:06.50 | maquis | Lone_Wanderer: i've done rockbox a lot |
| 20:07.22 | maquis | emcnabb: wb |
| 20:15.33 | Lone_Wanderer | maquis: are the dire warnings I've received about the battery life warranted? |
| 20:17.51 | maquis | Lone_Wanderer: i haven't had problems... but i haven't upgraded rockbox for about 6 months |
| 20:19.47 | Lone_Wanderer | kk |
| 20:19.53 | Lone_Wanderer | I doubt it's gotten worse since then. |
| 20:20.01 | Lone_Wanderer | Is installing it difficult at all? |
| 20:22.47 | maquis | not really |
| 20:22.50 | maquis | just follow the instructions |
| 20:23.06 | maquis | if you want to play doom, make sure you stick the wads in the right place :) |
| 20:23.08 | findlay | hello |
| 20:23.13 | findlay | ~lart emcnabb |
| 20:23.13 | ibot | whips out his power stapler and staples emcnabb's foot to the floor |
| 20:28.20 | emcnabb | ~lart maquis |
| 20:28.20 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at maquis |
| 20:28.24 | emcnabb | ~lart findlay |
| 20:28.24 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops findlay in half |
| 20:32.05 | RedHeron | ~lart emcnabb |
| 20:32.05 | ibot | calls emcnabb on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 20:33.34 | findlay | ff 3beta2 still consumes 0.15 of system memory |
| 20:34.23 | Lone_Wanderer | are they trying to slim it down again? |
| 20:34.58 | findlay | well the story is they fixed numerous memory leaks |
| 20:35.06 | Lone_Wanderer | nice |
| 20:35.15 | Lone_Wanderer | I still want it lean and mean like it used to be though. |
| 20:35.31 | findlay | I'm fine with .15 of 512MiB as long as it doesn't keep growing |
| 20:35.46 | Lakshmi | hey findlay |
| 20:35.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe I should just get a faster computer. |
| 20:35.47 | findlay | yeah |
| 20:35.50 | Lone_Wanderer | It has been a while. |
| 20:36.17 | findlay | well, I've found that switching desktops to enlightenment has really sped things up for me |
| 20:36.41 | findlay | hey Lakshmi |
| 20:37.02 | Lakshmi | what are you upto? |
| 20:37.35 | findlay | work |
| 20:37.43 | Lakshmi | wow everyone |
| 20:38.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Lakshmi Singh? |
| 20:38.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Isn't that an NPR reporter or something? |
| 20:38.53 | Lakshmi | Lone_Wanderer haha might be but im not them |
| 20:40.02 | Lakshmi | sorry to dissapoint |
| 20:40.19 | Lakshmi | and you didnt butcher the spelling iirc |
| 20:40.34 | Lone_Wanderer | I meant the reporter's name, not yours. |
| 20:41.32 | Lakshmi | yeah i know |
| 20:41.45 | Lakshmi | i think its spelt the way you did |
| 20:43.00 | findlay | ~spell Lakshmi |
| 20:43.05 | findlay | yay |
| 20:43.51 | Lakshmi | yay! |
| 20:43.51 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 20:44.00 | Lakshmi | i was talking bout the last name |
| 20:44.16 | findlay | ~talk |
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| 20:50.16 | findlay | ~convert nanograms to elvis |
| 20:51.14 | Lone_Wanderer | -convert pounds to elvis |
| 20:56.30 | findlay | ~convert 1 elvis to pounds |
| 20:58.47 | Lakshmi | ibot is smart |
| 21:02.54 | findlay | haha |
| 21:03.05 | findlay | uvu.edu |
| 21:03.20 | findlay | down "Due to heavy system usage" |
| 21:03.37 | jsmith | On the second of January? |
| 21:04.27 | findlay | guess tomcat can't handle all the students scrambling to prepare for class tomorrow |
| 21:04.58 | findlay | well, to be fair, it's uvlink.uvu.edu |
| 21:05.03 | sontek | school is overrated |
| 21:06.38 | findlay | hahahaha |
| 21:06.59 | findlay | blackboard is only showing me a blank page |
| 21:07.23 | findlay | that's nice |
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| 21:23.58 | levi | I'm not looking forward to going to class tomorrow. |
| 21:40.34 | mrpull | levi: what rabbit ears are you using with your HDTV? |
| 21:41.01 | levi | mrpull: I dunno, just some random ones with a UHF loop. |
| 21:42.00 | mrpull | I'm considering swapping from directv to comcast and may work an OTA antenna into the mix since I hear it is better than comcast's hd locals |
| 21:42.05 | levi | Although I'm not looking forward to going to class again, I am grateful for the access to ACM and IEEE Computer Society online libraries that I get through school. :) |
| 21:42.26 | Supaplex | JoshH: happy new year :) |
| 21:43.04 | levi | mrpull: I dropped everything except OTA stuff, and with a DVR, I'm pretty happy. I was not a huge TV watcher, though. |
| 21:43.38 | mrpull | I like to watch byu football and utah jazz basketball... enough to pay for cable/sat |
| 21:43.45 | mrpull | oh, and the NFL too :) |
| 21:44.06 | levi | Doesn't BYU broadcast BYU games? |
| 21:44.19 | levi | Their digital broadcast has 3 or 4 subchannels. |
| 21:44.21 | mrpull | levi: count yourself lucky that you aren't a BYU fan |
| 21:44.36 | mrpull | there is a big mess that the MWC sold the TV rights to comcast |
| 21:44.48 | levi | I count myself lucky that I'm not a sports fan at all. |
| 21:44.54 | levi | Sports are to play, not to watch. :P |
| 21:44.59 | mrpull | and comcast is the _only_ place that you can get more than half of the games |
| 21:45.19 | mrpull | some are on vs. or cstv. but most are on the comcast owned channel |
| 21:50.03 | levi | So they're not on KBYU? |
| 21:50.47 | mrpull | no. kbyu doesn't have the rights to show them any more. |
| 21:50.57 | levi | When did that happen? |
| 21:52.27 | mrpull | 2 years ago |
| 21:52.50 | Lone_Wanderer | kbyu can't show byu games? |
| 21:52.55 | levi | I'm sure KBYU still shows at least some of them. |
| 21:53.29 | maquis | i think they can show them a couple hours delayed |
| 21:53.36 | maquis | but not all of them |
| 21:54.16 | levi | Ahh, the schedule I found from last year shows them several days delayed. |
| 21:54.25 | levi | I guess that would not be sufficient for the true fan. |
| 21:55.12 | maquis | ;) |
| 21:55.34 | levi | Anyway, thanks to the ACM digital library, I have a copy of Seymour Papert's book 'Mindstorms' |
| 21:55.53 | maquis | levi: what's that? |
| 21:56.28 | levi | It's a book about using computers to help children learn things. |
| 21:56.41 | levi | Papert is the guy who invented Logo. |
| 21:57.07 | levi | http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=SERIES11430.1095592#abstract |
| 21:57.41 | maquis | ooh... that sounds really interesting |
| 22:00.45 | maquis | levi: how'd you get a copy? |
| 22:01.00 | maquis | Supaplex: synergy is extremely nice |
| 22:01.21 | Supaplex | yup. my back is thanking me already. :) |
| 22:02.19 | levi | maquis: I clicked on the 'full pdf' link via the UVSC proxy. |
| 22:02.42 | maquis | that probably won't work for me, eh? |
| 22:03.13 | levi | Nope. I'm sure Amazon carries the book, though. :P |
| 22:04.11 | maquis | ... |
| 22:04.52 | jsmith | Amazon? Who's that? |
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| 22:06.04 | mrpull | amazon is the site the senses when I am going to buy something, then raises the price in the time between making up my mind and going to make the purchase |
| 22:06.13 | maquis | ooh... sno-isle library has it |
| 22:06.43 | maquis | mrpull: i'm sorry... i haven't seen that part of our code, i'm afraid... |
| 22:07.31 | mrpull | the other day I put a tv and a blu ray player in my cart pending the thumbs up from my wife |
| 22:07.41 | mrpull | I came back a little later and got a note that each had gone up |
| 22:07.59 | mrpull | the total order was up by more than a hundred dollars in just a couple hours :-/ |
| 22:08.26 | tensai | that's a deviously clever idea |
| 22:08.48 | mrpull | tensai: there have been instances where it has gone down |
| 22:08.48 | levi | I haven't decided yet whether to get one of the hi-def disc format players or not yet. |
| 22:09.08 | tensai | elg: I started using some of the cool branching and merging capabilities of svk |
| 22:09.36 | tensai | mrpull: I had a couple of my christmas items change over a few days. one dropped price and the other stopped being sold. |
| 22:09.37 | mrpull | levi: the hd-dvd/bluray stalemate may never end |
| 22:09.55 | mrpull | levi: but the sad truth is that disney's format probably wins the tiebreaker at my house |
| 22:10.37 | tensai | they're deluding themselves if they think everybody will flock to hidef dvd like they went from vhs to dvd |
| 22:11.08 | mrpull | true... I may just buy an upconverting dvd player for now |
| 22:20.53 | rsimpkins | Is everyone coming to PLUG next week? |
| 22:21.06 | Supaplex | only if PLUG comes to me. |
| 22:21.49 | tensai | ~plug Supaplex |
| 22:21.50 | rsimpkins | Supaplex: PLUG is like hearding cats. And not just any cats. Wild cats of the jungle type cats. PLUG goes where it wants to go. |
| 22:22.24 | rsimpkins | ~cpustats |
| 22:22.24 | ibot | Total CPU usage: 12185.1 s ... Total used: 1.9 % (parent/child ratio: 100.0 %) |
| 22:22.30 | Supaplex | well in that case, apparently 'no' for now. :) |
| 22:22.33 | tyler_ | PLUG robbed me of my innocense |
| 22:23.08 | Supaplex | tyler_: under duress? |
| 22:23.16 | tyler_ | and spelling skillz obviously |
| 22:23.29 | rsimpkins | wordz r 4 sizzieeez |
| 22:23.31 | Supaplex | spelling is overrated |
| 22:23.37 | tyler_ | agreid |
| 22:23.45 | Supaplex | esp on irc :P |
| 22:24.06 | rsimpkins | So seriously, who's coming? We have more swag to give away. |
| 22:24.08 | tyler_ | btw, I've decided that 16 > 21 when it comes to how well my body handles lack of sleep |
| 22:24.28 | tyler_ | I can't handle it like I used to be able to |
| 22:24.29 | tyler_ | :( |
| 22:37.43 | mrpull | rsimpkins: what is the topic this month? |
| 22:39.01 | rsimpkins | mrpull: Aaron Anderson - lead SA at Omniture - is going to be presenting. |
| 22:39.21 | rsimpkins | He is in a unique position, having seen Omniture go from a handful of servers to over 10,000. |
| 22:39.35 | mrpull | sounds like a good one. I hope to be there. |
| 22:40.09 | rsimpkins | I think it will be great, even if you just have 1 or 2 servers to manage. And ESSPECIALLY if you have more than say 10. :) |
| 22:40.28 | mrpull | so why hasn't plug.org been updated </jab> |
| 22:40.32 | rsimpkins | If you admin more than 100 and you don't come - well - then you are just insane. |
| 22:40.35 | tensai | rsimpkins: SA? sardonic avocado? |
| 22:40.54 | rsimpkins | The holidays really messed us all up. |
| 22:41.10 | rsimpkins | It takes quite a few people to put on a meeting, finalize all the details, etc. |
| 22:41.22 | rsimpkins | So - still waiting on a couple things. |
| 22:41.39 | mrpull | I understand :) just giving some unhelpful motivation |
| 22:43.25 | rsimpkins | It is my hope to have something by tomorrow up on the site. |
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| 23:23.51 | rsimpkins | I draw stupd looking posters. Oh well, no one will probably even read it. |
| 23:24.53 | findlay | oooh, now I can't wait to see it |
| 23:25.22 | rsimpkins | When you do a print in an application a default feature in all apps should be a "this is how many pieces of paper you will use" counter. |
| 23:26.02 | findlay | and even have a box telling you what the # is if the printer decides to print out the postscript |
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| 23:44.53 | maquis | findlay: lol |
| 23:45.12 | maquis | i hate it when my printer decides to print out the postscript |
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| 23:53.51 | levi | tyler_: Ability to handle lack of sleep only gets worse. :P |
| 23:55.05 | levi | mrpull: I have an upconverting DVD player with faroudja dcdi, which looks pretty nice on my 1080p screen. |
| 23:56.12 | Supaplex | maquis: likewise :P |
| 23:58.26 | mrpull | are there any hd-dvd/blu-ray combo drives reasonably priced for PC's yet? |