| 00:24.52 | Sargun | BZflag isn't on here: |
| 00:24.53 | Sargun | http://www.linux-gamers.net/smartsection.item.81/comparison-of-free-software-shooters.html |
| 00:32.37 | sontek | I like nexuiz |
| 00:37.52 | Sargun | I like bzflag. |
| 00:37.57 | Sargun | You are in the land of bzflag. |
| 00:38.15 | Sargun | Bow Down to the BZFlag gods. |
| 00:39.19 | Lakshmi | huh? |
| 00:39.27 | Sargun | Lakshmi, . |
| 00:39.42 | Lakshmi | Sargun |
| 00:48.29 | Lakshmi | sup? |
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| 01:07.49 | Sargun | no! |
| 01:07.58 | Sargun | ~duck |
| 01:07.58 | ibot | Hhhwrraaaaaaaacckk!, or llama! |
| 02:02.40 | findlay | ~bzfrag Sargun |
| 02:02.40 | ibot | ACTION blindsides Sargun with an invisible bullet |
| 02:04.01 | herlo | bananas? |
| 02:06.22 | findlay | Tene: what you want are pickles |
| 02:06.31 | findlay | apaches are really expensive |
| 02:07.12 | findlay | why fly a warship when you can be eating tasty, pickled cucumbers? |
| 02:07.22 | findlay | I'll never understand that one |
| 02:22.23 | Supaplex | ~lart 2007 |
| 02:22.23 | ibot | frags 2007 with his BFG9000 |
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| 03:04.57 | Lakshmi | ~find sargun |
| 03:05.13 | findlay | ~locate Sargun |
| 03:05.14 | ibot | ACTION whips the black sheet away from Sargun showing the world Sargun's evil plans |
| 03:05.22 | Lakshmi | ah better |
| 03:05.26 | Lakshmi | lets locate sargun |
| 03:05.27 | findlay | haha |
| 03:05.35 | findlay | ~triangulate Sargun |
| 03:05.42 | Lakshmi | bermuda triangle/ |
| 03:05.44 | Lakshmi | ? |
| 03:05.55 | findlay | ~wiki trinagulation |
| 03:06.06 | findlay | ~wiki triangulation |
| 03:06.31 | findlay | ~wiki triangulation |
| 03:06.45 | findlay | ~forks |
| 03:06.50 | findlay | ~stats |
| 03:06.50 | ibot | Since Wed Dec 26 15:53:29 2007, there have been 36 modifications, 373 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 334 commands. I have been awake for 4d 11h 13m 21s this session, and currently reference 114207 factoids. I'm using about 19272 kB of memory. With 2 active forks. Process time user/system 6976.4/340.15 child 0/0 |
| 03:07.48 | Lakshmi | lol |
| 03:07.56 | Lakshmi | well actually there have been a few morons |
| 03:07.56 | findlay | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation |
| 03:07.57 | Lakshmi | here |
| 03:08.12 | Lakshmi | i can name them too! |
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| 04:45.39 | Tene | Several of the big parrot folks currently estimate to have most of the Perl 6 on Parrot stuff done in 2008, probably the first half. |
| 04:48.47 | Sargun | cool |
| 04:51.24 | Supaplex | yummy |
| 04:56.42 | Lakshmi | whats cool? |
| 04:56.45 | Lakshmi | Sargun, |
| 04:58.05 | Supaplex | perl6 |
| 04:58.13 | Lakshmi | oh |
| 04:58.15 | Lakshmi | sounds fun |
| 04:58.17 | herlo | perl7 |
| 05:00.01 | Sargun | perl 6 |
| 05:00.12 | Sargun | instead of sub {} |
| 05:00.25 | Sargun | it'll be sub ({| |}) |
| 05:00.35 | Sargun | and accessing an array will be |
| 05:01.04 | Sargun | @*Array[^0x0] |
| 05:01.31 | Sargun | Arrays have to have at least one numeric character in them and at leave on punctuation mark |
| 05:01.35 | Sargun | Ar^ray |
| 05:01.43 | Sargun | Ar^r4y |
| 05:02.16 | Sargun | @*A@rr4y[^0x0] |
| 05:03.28 | Tene | Sargun: no, just @array[0] |
| 05:04.29 | Sargun | yeah, but Perl 6 will have it like @$@!3 |
| 05:05.15 | Tene | That's simply inaccurate. |
| 05:06.25 | findlay | that's complexy accurate Tene |
| 05:06.53 | findlay | that's completely accurate Tene |
| 05:07.04 | Tene | Findlay loves lisp. I bet he asked for parenthesis for christmas. |
| 05:07.22 | findlay | how'd you know? |
| 05:14.14 | findlay | (((((((((())))))(((())))()()())))))))))))))))) |
| 05:14.46 | herlo | findlay: one too many parentheses |
| 05:14.51 | findlay | ( |
| 05:15.10 | herlo | perfect |
| 05:19.02 | vontrapp_ | arg!!! |
| 05:19.09 | vontrapp_ | i installed some lirc modules from m-a |
| 05:19.18 | vontrapp_ | and now my nvidia module doesn't work! |
| 05:19.45 | Supaplex | non-free just does'nt play nice sometimes. |
| 05:22.18 | Sargun | that sucks |
| 05:22.42 | sjansen | -plotline |
| 05:22.51 | sjansen | -movieplot |
| 05:22.51 | brac | Summary: He's a hate-fuelled one-eyed cat burglar with a passion for fast cars. She's a pregnant thirtysomething former first lady from aristocratic European stock. They fight crime. |
| 05:22.59 | sjansen | -plotthedestructionoftheearth |
| 05:23.11 | findlay | -movietitle |
| 05:23.11 | brac | Title: PAINFUL DEED XVIII |
| 05:23.21 | sjansen | -plottheviolentoverthrowofibot |
| 05:25.43 | Sargun | hi |
| 05:25.47 | Sargun | /exec -o yes |
| 05:26.13 | findlay | whatever |
| 05:26.22 | findlay | ~renice Sargun |
| 05:26.23 | ibot | ACTION lowers Sargun's priority again |
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| 05:49.03 | Lakshmi | hi |
| 05:49.04 | Lakshmi | findlay |
| 05:50.21 | Tene | hi Lakshmi |
| 05:50.28 | Lakshmi | hey teabeer |
| 05:50.30 | Lakshmi | er tene |
| 05:52.44 | Sargun | Are you using tab completion lukshu? |
| 05:54.34 | Lakshmi | Sargun what do you think? |
| 05:54.47 | findlay | ~think Sargun |
| 05:54.58 | Lakshmi | question for all bzflaggers: if you pick up 1 white flag |
| 05:55.00 | Lakshmi | do you have to use it |
| 05:55.05 | Lakshmi | before you can pick up another? |
| 05:55.09 | Sargun | not really |
| 05:55.19 | Sargun | you can hit Space to launch it if its a + flag |
| 05:55.19 | Lakshmi | then whats wrong with me? |
| 05:55.25 | Sargun | everything |
| 05:55.28 | Lakshmi | i know that |
| 05:55.43 | Lakshmi | whats wrong iwth you |
| 05:55.48 | Lakshmi | that is whats wrong with you |
| 05:55.50 | Lakshmi | (sp) |
| 05:56.00 | Lakshmi | nyways.. how come i cant run over multiple flags |
| 05:56.05 | Lakshmi | findlay answres/ |
| 05:56.07 | Lakshmi | er |
| 05:56.11 | Lakshmi | answers |
| 05:56.59 | findlay | you have to drop one before you can get another |
| 05:57.40 | Lakshmi | findlay really? |
| 05:57.45 | Lakshmi | then how come sargun is wrong? |
| 05:57.50 | Lakshmi | ~smack sargun |
| 05:57.51 | ibot | ACTION smacks sargun upside the head. |
| 05:57.54 | Lakshmi | ~teach sargun |
| 05:58.34 | Sargun | findlay, you can drop it by hitting space.. |
| 05:58.43 | Lakshmi | sargun |
| 05:58.46 | Lakshmi | that wasnt the question |
| 05:58.53 | Lakshmi | the question was while holding on to one |
| 05:58.56 | Lakshmi | can you grab another |
| 05:58.59 | Sargun | Oh |
| 05:59.00 | Sargun | nope. |
| 05:59.08 | Lakshmi | so findlay was rigth |
| 05:59.09 | Lakshmi | right |
| 05:59.14 | Lakshmi | and you were WRONG |
| 05:59.15 | Lakshmi | wrong |
| 05:59.16 | Lakshmi | wrong! |
| 05:59.28 | fozzmoo | Holy cow dd_rescue is a resource hog |
| 05:59.42 | Lakshmi | oh hey fozzmoo |
| 05:59.43 | Lakshmi | sup? |
| 06:09.44 | fozzmoo | I'm trying to rescue some data off a damaged DVD. |
| 06:09.51 | fozzmoo | Fortunately, I have two copies of the DVD. |
| 06:09.58 | fozzmoo | Both are damaged, however. |
| 06:10.13 | fozzmoo | I'm hoping the damage is in different spots, so I can make a full recovery of the data. |
| 06:11.25 | Lakshmi | ah |
| 06:11.28 | Lakshmi | gluck |
| 06:11.33 | Lakshmi | i jus want a dvd writer |
| 06:11.36 | Lakshmi | and for someone to tell me |
| 06:11.39 | Lakshmi | how come vista |
| 06:11.42 | fozzmoo | DVD writers are cheap. |
| 06:11.44 | fozzmoo | Vista sucks. |
| 06:11.44 | Lakshmi | takes soo much of my space |
| 06:11.51 | fozzmoo | VISTA SUCKS ROCKS! |
| 06:12.01 | fozzmoo | Vista just SUCKS!!!!!!! |
| 06:12.24 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: I got my dad a laptop for xmas. Came with Vista. I wiped the drive and put Linux on it. |
| 06:14.18 | Lakshmi | but i have so much stuff on vista |
| 06:14.20 | Lakshmi | like aim |
| 06:14.23 | Lakshmi | or xchat |
| 06:14.24 | Lakshmi | and word |
| 06:14.26 | Lakshmi | i like word |
| 06:14.30 | Lakshmi | and xcel |
| 06:14.33 | Lakshmi | and pwerpoint |
| 06:14.39 | Lakshmi | those things make me happy |
| 06:14.54 | fozzmoo | xchat? That's from Linux. |
| 06:14.58 | Tene | Yeah fozz, how can you argue with pwrpoint? |
| 06:15.06 | Tene | Don't you like pwrpoint? |
| 06:15.28 | fozzmoo | Tene: Don't get me started on pwrpoint. |
| 06:18.02 | Lakshmi | everyone loves power point |
| 06:18.04 | Lakshmi | who wouldnt? |
| 06:19.35 | findlay | http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:19.36 | brac | [The LaTeX Beamer Class Homepage] |
| 06:20.11 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: I think you'll find most of the people in #utah would disagree with that ststaement. |
| 06:23.32 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo i know |
| 06:23.43 | Lakshmi | provocative statements are jus plain fun |
| 06:23.56 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: Why don't you just bite the bullet and install Linux? |
| 06:24.36 | fozzmoo | My dad was a dumb Windows user until a couple years ago. Now he uses Linux at home, at the office, and on his laptop. He does fine. |
| 06:24.41 | Tene | Bullets don't taste good. |
| 06:24.54 | fozzmoo | Tene: You have bullet-tasting experience? |
| 06:25.28 | findlay | they taste metallic in my experience |
| 06:25.41 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo you sound like an infomercial |
| 06:26.07 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: Now, that I have experience with (sounding like an infomercial.) |
| 06:26.21 | Lakshmi | findlay PM. |
| 06:26.22 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. Find your own YouTube link. |
| 06:27.07 | findlay | fozzomercial! |
| 06:27.34 | Lakshmi | who has some good tips for a new BZflag player |
| 06:27.35 | Lakshmi | ? |
| 06:28.13 | findlay | /join #bzfag |
| 06:28.47 | fozzmoo | I'd rather not. |
| 06:29.33 | findlay | ~bzfrag fozzmoo |
| 06:29.33 | ibot | ACTION makes fozzmoo feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 06:52.30 | findlay | is what I meant |
| 06:54.00 | fozzmoo | Oh man! |
| 06:54.02 | fozzmoo | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122800693.html |
| 06:54.05 | brac | [Download Uproar: Record Industry Goes After Personal Use - washingtonpost.com] |
| 06:55.21 | fozzmoo | Sony BMG's chief of litigation, Jennifer Pariser, testified that "when an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Copying a song you bought is "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy,' " she said. |
| 07:00.20 | findlay | ~lart last year |
| 07:00.20 | ibot | strangles last year with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 07:00.32 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 07:00.32 | ibot | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on findlay |
| 07:01.13 | Lakshmi | hey sargun |
| 07:01.24 | Lakshmi | hows bzing? |
| 07:01.29 | Lakshmi | i keep dying |
| 07:01.32 | Lakshmi | i need help |
| 07:03.21 | Sargun | oh |
| 07:03.22 | Sargun | sorry |
| 07:04.45 | Tene | "I'm much more likely to be hit by a car as a pedestrian than I am to be assaulted by a hybrid car / human 50 years from now." |
| 07:15.54 | findlay | wow. I just got 83 spams in my google apps work mail account |
| 07:16.03 | findlay | inbox, that i |
| 07:16.04 | findlay | s |
| 07:17.32 | Sargun | hm |
| 07:17.40 | Sargun | findlay, in your go castle rock one? |
| 07:17.46 | findlay | Sargun: yeah |
| 07:18.15 | Sargun | btw: Your the IT guy at GCR? |
| 07:18.26 | findlay | that's happened a few times before but only once with about that many |
| 07:18.50 | findlay | Sargun: I am computer wisdom there |
| 07:19.04 | Sargun | findlay, how many employees do they have |
| 07:19.25 | findlay | I am the one who can invoke computer voodoo and know what it means |
| 07:19.31 | findlay | lots |
| 07:19.49 | Sargun | oh |
| 07:20.23 | Sargun | The company is a year old? |
| 07:22.24 | findlay | no |
| 07:23.13 | Sargun | how old? |
| 07:23.19 | Sargun | Creation date: 03 Oct 2006 15:56:28 |
| 07:24.11 | findlay | it's supposed to be *1006*, duh |
| 07:24.30 | Sargun | heh |
| 08:57.18 | findlay | yay |
| 09:02.57 | Tene | findlay: you see revision 24333? |
| 09:07.07 | findlay | I get rev 24336 on https://svn.perl.org/parrot/ |
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| 09:07.52 | findlay | oops |
| 09:08.16 | Tene | findlay: 24333 is the revision implementing 'given'. Very short. |
| 09:09.28 | findlay | man, why does the /server command have be so confusing with the /connect command? |
| 09:09.51 | Tene | I've actually never had that problem. |
| 09:12.03 | findlay | well, I always forget which one is which |
| 09:12.16 | Tene | findlay: 24333 isn't my patch, 24335 is |
| 09:12.56 | findlay | now you're part of history |
| 09:39.40 | Supaplex | I think I can sleep one last time for the rest of the year. |
| 09:39.43 | Supaplex | n'ite. :P |
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| 12:55.20 | brac | [~ |
| 12:55.20 | brac | ~say Good day to deal with people in high places; particularly lonely stewardesses. |
| 12:55.21 | ibot | Good day to deal with people in high places; particularly lonely stewardesses. |
| 12:55.21 | brac | ~] |
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| 15:41.50 | brac | [TorrentFreak’s Most Memorable Quotes of 2007 | TorrentFreak] |
| 15:42.44 | elg | unlikely |
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| 16:28.29 | dataw0lf | ugh work |
| 16:32.16 | dataw0lf | Nah, The Man Comes Around |
| 16:37.49 | elg | let's say I need a "6V, 300 mA AC |
| 16:37.50 | elg | adapter and a size B Adaptaplug™ adapter" but I think $25 at radioshack is a ripoff? |
| 16:38.01 | elg | do they have power adapters at DI? |
| 16:38.56 | dataw0lf | elg: sometimes, yea |
| 16:42.10 | dataw0lf | I've had more Adaptaplug problems then solutions, though, to be completely honest. |
| 16:43.45 | dataw0lf | half day today. |
| 16:43.50 | elg | well, i don't care if it's adaptaplug, as long as it fits |
| 16:44.41 | dataw0lf | I hear ya. I could not find an adaptaplug that would fit my creative zen touch forever, then I found out that my PSP used the same adapter after a month of looking |
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| 17:00.28 | sjansen | ~steal Lone_Wanderer's world |
| 17:00.28 | ibot | ACTION grabs Lone_Wanderer's world and gives it to sjansen |
| 17:00.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Pfsh. |
| 17:00.47 | Lone_Wanderer | One world. |
| 17:00.50 | Lone_Wanderer | I've got an entire universe. |
| 17:01.05 | dataw0lf | well jeez can I get a world too then? |
| 17:01.11 | sjansen | ~steal Lone_Wanderer's universe |
| 17:01.11 | ibot | ACTION grabs Lone_Wanderer's universe and gives it to sjansen |
| 17:01.21 | sjansen | ~give dataw0lf a world |
| 17:01.22 | ibot | ACTION gives a world to dataw0lf |
| 17:01.28 | dataw0lf | sweet! |
| 17:02.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Worlds for everyone! |
| 17:02.42 | dataw0lf | Ha! That'll get em. |
| 17:02.47 | dataw0lf | let's see who believes in me now |
| 17:03.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Be sure to provide plenty of evidence that your world is much older than your follower's historical record is. |
| 17:05.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Also, tell them that you are perfect and incapable of lying. The logical quandaries they'll get tangled up in as a result of that will keep them going for millenia. |
| 17:05.03 | dataw0lf | I better introduce a variety of related monotheistic religions that are basically the same so they can war and quibble over inconsequential details. |
| 17:05.15 | Lone_Wanderer | That should be entertaining. |
| 17:05.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Just don't make any Lutherans. I hate Lutherans. |
| 17:06.31 | dataw0lf | Yea, there's an abnormal amount of casket climbers in the Lutheran religion. |
| 17:06.43 | Lone_Wanderer | casket climbers? |
| 17:06.50 | dataw0lf | Six Feet Under reference |
| 17:07.04 | dataw0lf | "Look at Mrs. Donovan. You thinking what I'm thinking?" |
| 17:07.09 | dataw0lf | "Yup. Casket climber." |
| 17:07.26 | dataw0lf | "She doesn't look that energetic." |
| 17:07.31 | dataw0lf | "Psh. You'd be surprised." |
| 17:09.24 | dataw0lf | Lone_Wanderer: http://www.celebritywonder.com/vids/Michael_C_Hall/oJ45mOqcz1k.html |
| 17:09.25 | brac | [Six Feet Under 1x03-A casket climber] |
| 17:09.36 | dataw0lf | aw, it's not available anymore |
| 17:10.06 | Lone_Wanderer | can't watch videos at work anyway |
| 17:11.35 | dataw0lf | durn, because I just found it |
| 17:11.37 | dataw0lf | hilarious |
| 17:38.37 | tensai | elg: haha, the jokes on you. I have to work today and tomorrow already! |
| 17:45.54 | nick125 | http://xkcd.com/364/ |
| 17:45.55 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 18:16.59 | maquis | nick125: i was just about to post that |
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| 18:35.49 | levi | Arg. |
| 18:39.33 | nick125 | maquis: haah |
| 18:46.08 | Supaplex | http://xkcd.com/354/ |
| 18:46.09 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 18:56.42 | nick125 | http://xkcd.com/350/ |
| 18:56.43 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 18:56.44 | nick125 | http://xkcd.com/340/ |
| 18:56.45 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 18:56.45 | nick125 | er |
| 18:56.46 | nick125 | http://xkcd.com/349/ |
| 18:56.47 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 18:58.27 | vontrapp | ok, so i had things running just fine |
| 18:58.52 | vontrapp | i installed lirc-modules, then all a sudden the tv goes blue, but i'm still getting sound |
| 18:59.12 | vontrapp | i try to restart x and it blanks a few times, comes up with "low graphics mode" |
| 18:59.31 | vontrapp | i can't get it to work with the nvidia driver for the life of me, it only takes vesa |
| 18:59.46 | vontrapp | but there's no errors about the nvidia driver in the xorg logs |
| 18:59.53 | vontrapp | or in dmesg |
| 19:00.22 | findlay | well, did you try uninstalling lirc? |
| 19:00.35 | vontrapp | i tried unloading the modules |
| 19:01.03 | findlay | well if it's proprietary sw you're dealing with you may have to go about this like a windows user |
| 19:01.34 | findlay | and do whatever voodoo it takes to appease the vendor gods |
| 19:02.09 | vontrapp | ok, here's some nvidia stuff in the Xorg.0.log.old |
| 19:02.14 | vontrapp | no valid modes |
| 19:02.47 | findlay | have you tried the myth ml/irc/forum? |
| 19:03.14 | findlay | have you tried running xorg diagnostics? |
| 19:04.14 | findlay | I installed ubuntu on my brother's old computer with a riva card in it and it won't do better than 800x600 with the nvidia driver because of proprietary nonsense |
| 19:08.28 | vontrapp | what's xorg diagnostics? |
| 19:09.41 | findlay | stuff like `xorg --configure` |
| 20:09.40 | findlay | ~stats |
| 20:09.41 | ibot | Since Wed Dec 26 15:53:29 2007, there have been 40 modifications, 417 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 359 commands. I have been awake for 5d 4h 16m 11s this session, and currently reference 114207 factoids. I'm using about 19272 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 8304/377.44 child 0/0 |
| 20:19.27 | findlay | my %job = (); |
| 20:19.43 | findlay | saw that in some code I wrote a while ago. Made me laugh |
| 20:29.06 | Lakshmi | hey |
| 20:29.09 | Lakshmi | Sargun |
| 20:34.35 | Lakshmi | hey nick125 |
| 20:46.04 | rsimpkins | I like that chompers place on state in orem. Really good provolone burgers. |
| 20:46.19 | rsimpkins | Hard to find a place that'll even make a provolone. |
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| 20:51.24 | vontrapp | network manager is being a pain in the butt |
| 20:51.45 | elg | isn't it designed to be so? |
| 20:58.53 | jsmith | elg: Yeah, and maybe by next year it'll be slightly less of a pain ;-) |
| 21:19.35 | sontek | by next year I wont be able to remember today! |
| 21:20.06 | sontek | if things go as planned |
| 21:37.12 | findlay | ~remember sontek |
| 21:37.13 | ibot | How can i forget about sontek ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 21:39.46 | herlo | short guy |
| 21:46.43 | Tene | sontek: we're talking about you. |
| 21:48.49 | sontek | Tene: oh noes |
| 21:49.32 | Tene | sontek: we're not talking about you any more. |
| 22:04.31 | rsimpkins | sontek: Hey. Nice bio on the PLUG site there. ;-) |
| 22:05.10 | levi | Wow, Zed Shaw is unhappy about the Rails community. |
| 22:05.26 | Tene | levi: who is Zed Shaw? |
| 22:06.14 | levi | He wrote some piece of software called Mongrel. |
| 22:06.41 | levi | It's a web server for Ruby. |
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| 22:10.21 | rsimpkins | Anyone a photoshop guru in here? I need to know how to make those professional looking shading lines and stuff illustrators do. |
| 22:10.44 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: do you mean doing a drop shadow? |
| 22:10.44 | sjansen | Zed Shaw is a medium-level muckety muck in the developer blogging world, with an emphasis on ruby and quality. |
| 22:10.53 | sjansen | levi: URL? |
| 22:11.00 | levi | http://www.zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html |
| 22:11.01 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: No, I'm not sure the graphics term. Highlighting/shading. |
| 22:11.01 | brac | [ZSFA -- Rails Is A Ghetto] |
| 22:11.08 | levi | Warning, lots of strong language. :) |
| 22:11.32 | levi | Apparently he hasn't got so much emphasis on Ruby anymore. |
| 22:13.19 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: I do quite a bit with photoshop, but I can't visualize what you are asking. |
| 22:13.46 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: Like here http://www.lambiek.net/artists/b/bogdanove_jon/bogdanove_superman2.jpg |
| 22:13.57 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: See his back and legs? Is all that done freehand or what? |
| 22:14.18 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: I'm wondering if there is a photoshop trick you can do to make a smooth selection, then paint inside it or something. |
| 22:15.03 | levi | Most artists probably do stuff like that freehand with a tool like Illustrator. |
| 22:15.11 | levi | Or on paper, and then scan it in. |
| 22:15.19 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: you can do some things. If superman is his own layer, then you can lock the transparency, and then just use the paintbrush |
| 22:15.49 | undertakingyou | Or, for that I use magic wand, make a selection, make a new layer via copy thes use tha paintbrush. |
| 22:16.32 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: So, let's imagine superman is his own layer, in an all blue suit with no shading... |
| 22:16.49 | undertakingyou | right, I would do a duplicate. |
| 22:16.58 | rsimpkins | Ahh - that's a good idea. |
| 22:17.02 | undertakingyou | Lock the transparency on the duplicate layer |
| 22:17.06 | undertakingyou | Use the paintbrush |
| 22:17.15 | levi | "There's no work for a smart man in a town full of stupid." |
| 22:17.18 | rsimpkins | What do you mean by 'lock the transparency' - I'm not following you there. |
| 22:17.19 | undertakingyou | Then use layer mask for the final bit. |
| 22:17.33 | undertakingyou | It is in the layers palet |
| 22:17.39 | rsimpkins | k, I'll take a look. |
| 22:17.44 | undertakingyou | At the top of the palet there are 4 icons |
| 22:17.50 | undertakingyou | one is a checkerboard. |
| 22:18.01 | rsimpkins | Oh - right - okay - i understand you now. |
| 22:18.20 | undertakingyou | The checkerboard one locks the transparency, so that nothing will come through the transparent parts. |
| 22:18.34 | rsimpkins | I have to say that shading/highlighting must be where the 'art' comes in because I suck at it. :) |
| 22:19.38 | rsimpkins | I think it might be easier to dupe the layer, fill it black (or my shade color), then remove the bits I don't want - rather than trying to paint them in from nothing. |
| 22:20.29 | rsimpkins | For the 'penciled' look though - you'd probably do soemthing more advanced. |
| 22:20.51 | rsimpkins | Or maybe use one of the filters to simulate it some how |
| 22:21.16 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: for the penciled look, I would just adjust my brush. |
| 22:22.26 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: Here is another example that shows some basic shading: http://www.charactersntoons.com/images/scribblepad-ninjaturtles.jpg |
| 22:22.36 | rsimpkins | Seems like I should be able to accomplish that. |
| 22:23.07 | rsimpkins | Of course, knowing where and how much is really most of the problem for me. |
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| 22:23.30 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: it should work out fine. |
| 22:24.15 | undertakingyou | Another thing could be to dup the layer, and then make the crisp selections that you want. |
| 22:24.23 | undertakingyou | you'll figure it out though. |
| 22:24.37 | rsimpkins | Yeah, duping the layer will probably really help - I should have thought of that. |
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| 22:25.19 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: Thanks for your help. :) |
| 22:25.30 | Supaplex | macnewbold: happy preemtive new year :) |
| 22:25.31 | findlay | ~preempt Supaplex |
| 22:25.49 | macnewbold | hey, Supaplex, thanks! |
| 22:26.04 | Supaplex | findlay: no, just creative. :) |
| 22:26.19 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: np |
| 22:26.41 | findlay | designed to quash rogue anti-State insurgents with Shock and Awe(R) |
| 22:30.26 | findlay | ~shock-and-awe Supaplex |
| 22:32.18 | findlay | hehe |
| 22:43.20 | Supaplex | ~entertain findlay |
| 22:43.21 | ibot | ACTION shows findlay a magic trick while sky dancing on black and white movie reels |
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| 22:52.29 | tensai | I think my lazy mailman took today off |
| 22:53.42 | sjansen | levi: wow |
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| 23:50.08 | Sargun | brac, |
| 23:50.10 | brac | [~ |
| 23:50.10 | brac | ~say Tuesday is the Wednesday of the rest of your life. |
| 23:50.11 | ibot | Tuesday is the Wednesday of the rest of your life. |
| 23:50.11 | brac | ~] |
| 23:50.42 | Sargun | ok |
| 23:53.37 | elg | sf.net never ceases to amaze me with its cluelessness |
| 23:54.01 | elg | popup box on download "please notify me when blah blah blah marketplace services blah blah blah this download" |
| 23:54.25 | elg | I'm sorry, I don't speak managerese. I have no idea what you're talking about, nor how it could possibly be an improvement over actually DOWNLOADING the file |
| 23:57.56 | Lakshmi | im backkk! |
| 23:57.57 | Lakshmi | hey |
