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| 00:07.59 | Sargun | nick125, |
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| 00:32.45 | Lakshmi | hi findlay! |
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| 00:36.40 | Sargun | emcnabb, do you know what amcnabb might be up to? |
| 00:37.03 | Sargun | emcnabb, is amcnabb teaching at BYU? |
| 00:38.53 | findlay | hey Lakshmi |
| 00:39.22 | Lakshmi | whats up ? |
| 00:40.00 | findlay | nothing |
| 00:40.04 | findlay | ~onjoin findlay |
| 00:40.04 | ibot | onjoin for findlay set by brac on Thu Oct 25 23:28:44 2007: Feduntsetoo! |
| 00:44.39 | findlay | ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 00:44.40 | ibot | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 00:44.42 | brac | ~onjoin findlay Feduntsetoo! |
| 00:44.43 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 00:44.51 | findlay | yay :) |
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| 01:03.20 | Lakshmi | so findlay do you have break now? |
| 01:17.21 | Supaplex | findlay only takes a break when Lakshmi is away |
| 01:20.19 | Lakshmi | Supaplex haha |
| 01:20.24 | Lakshmi | well at least findlay and you are nice |
| 01:20.32 | Lakshmi | and dont make excuses to leave |
| 01:23.11 | Supaplex | :) |
| 01:23.28 | Supaplex | that was random nonsense btw. |
| 01:23.46 | Supaplex | ~wake findlay |
| 01:23.47 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on findlay and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 01:26.01 | Lakshmi | Supaplex not really |
| 01:26.08 | Lakshmi | if you deal with what i deal with |
| 01:26.09 | Lakshmi | daily |
| 01:26.12 | Lakshmi | not random |
| 01:26.21 | Supaplex | I meant my comment. |
| 01:26.25 | Lakshmi | oh |
| 01:26.28 | Supaplex | eg, 01:16 < Supaplex> findlay only takes a break when Lakshmi is away |
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| 04:02.04 | Lakshmi | i wish that too |
| 04:02.11 | Lakshmi | ~wish lakshmi |
| 04:20.29 | findlay | ~party |
| 04:20.30 | ibot | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 04:24.21 | findlay | so, chlorophyll-A was selected through evolutionary arbitration as the phololuminescent chemical of choice. Though, few know about chlorophyll-B or other photolumiscing molecules. Will no one think of the other, underprivileged, minority photoluminescing chemicals? |
| 04:24.53 | findlay | the Green Party. What nerve |
| 04:25.09 | findlay | what discrimination |
| 04:25.23 | findlay | well ... say hello to The Maroon Party! |
| 04:25.43 | findlay | ~party |
| 04:25.43 | ibot | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 04:25.46 | findlay | yeah! |
| 04:26.23 | findlay | equal rights for photoluminescence |
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| 04:40.17 | cameron_ | Hullo |
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| 05:50.49 | findlay | -chat |
| 05:50.52 | brac | I don't know anyone in particular's reason for doing things. |
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| 06:56.41 | Zelut | anyone very familiar with the gconftool-2 ? |
| 07:09.56 | Sargun | hey |
| 07:11.01 | findlay | all I know is that when gnome configuration gets too simplistic, I use gconf-editor |
| 07:12.50 | sontek | Zelut: sort of, I usually just use the editor |
| 07:12.58 | sontek | Zelut: you trying to script a conf change? |
| 07:24.28 | Zelut | sontek: yeah |
| 07:24.36 | Zelut | sontek: I think I figured it out actually.. |
| 07:24.59 | Zelut | sontek: just put this together - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC#head-088c51b6165f18ae89418e50eec734b74473215c |
| 07:43.10 | findlay | oooh, surf dropped $50 already |
| 07:44.00 | findlay | $300 for a semi respectable machine will be nice |
| 07:49.21 | Zelut | findlay: surf is lacking too much.. |
| 07:49.34 | Zelut | findlay: but you're right, when the full version comes down a bit its a nice machine. |
| 07:49.45 | Zelut | lucky you have me doing the heavy-ubuntu-lifting ahead of time ;) |
| 07:50.34 | sontek | findlay is going to put gentoo on it! |
| 07:51.20 | Zelut | well good luck with that :). I'm off to bed |
| 07:51.29 | Zelut | three hours of wiki work is exhausting. |
| 07:58.27 | Sargun | Would anyone pay $50 a month for unlimited incoming |
| 07:58.46 | Lakshmi | calls? |
| 07:58.51 | Sargun | yes ma'am |
| 07:58.54 | Lakshmi | Sargun i do |
| 07:58.59 | Lakshmi | for unlimited everything |
| 07:59.02 | Sargun | Lakshmi, you're phone doesn't work |
| 07:59.07 | Lakshmi | it so does |
| 07:59.09 | Lakshmi | more than yours |
| 07:59.26 | Lakshmi | and its less about the phone |
| 07:59.33 | Lakshmi | more the service that i like |
| 07:59.39 | Lakshmi | the phone i coulda gotten a better one |
| 08:00.39 | sontek | I pay $50/month right now for 1000 anytime minutes + unlimited nights and weekends + fav 5's |
| 08:00.44 | sontek | and unlimited text messages |
| 08:01.50 | Lakshmi | is that Tmobile |
| 08:01.55 | sontek | yeah |
| 08:02.00 | sontek | <3 t-mobile |
| 08:02.01 | Lakshmi | but dont u have to keep ure favs for like a month |
| 08:02.06 | Lakshmi | so u cant switch em out randomly |
| 08:02.15 | sontek | yeah, you can change them every billing cycle |
| 08:02.21 | sontek | so you can't just add whoever you are calling :P |
| 08:02.37 | sontek | but I don't call outside of my 5 usually |
| 08:02.45 | sontek | unless its to order pizza or something |
| 08:03.11 | sontek | I have my girlfriend, my 2 closest friends, my parents, and my work |
| 08:03.22 | sontek | outside of that I probably talk 50/100 minutes a month |
| 08:03.46 | Lakshmi | well doesnt tmobile drop a lot ? |
| 08:04.06 | sontek | I've never had a dropped call in the 2 years I've had them |
| 08:04.18 | sontek | and I've had them while I lived in Michigan, California, and Utah |
| 08:04.41 | Lakshmi | wow |
| 08:04.49 | Lakshmi | my service is horrid. |
| 08:04.54 | Lakshmi | well its not that bad |
| 08:04.58 | Lakshmi | jus has a lotta issues |
| 08:05.03 | sontek | I had verizon before them and I'll never go back |
| 08:05.37 | sontek | the biggest problem I had with t-mobile was when I switched from a single plan to a family plan they accidentally dropped my voice mail |
| 08:05.42 | sontek | and had no way of recovering it |
| 08:05.59 | sontek | and I had just got back from vacation, so I had a lot of work calls stored up |
| 08:06.15 | sontek | but that was more the person who did it than the company itself :P |
| 08:06.25 | findlay | unlimited incoming calls? |
| 08:06.36 | findlay | as in, once you hang up it starts ringing again? |
| 08:06.55 | findlay | I'd do that if it was a neverending string of cute girls, but otherwise not |
| 08:14.20 | Sargun | nick125, |
| 09:05.58 | findlay | Sargun, |
| 09:06.17 | findlay | -excuse |
| 09:06.17 | brac | Jupiter is aligned with Mars. |
| 09:06.26 | findlay | no it isn't, duh |
| 09:06.28 | findlay | -excuse |
| 09:06.29 | brac | user to computer ration too low. |
| 09:06.51 | Lakshmi | ~lart sargun |
| 09:06.51 | ibot | calls sargun on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 09:10.38 | findlay | -excuse |
| 09:10.38 | brac | Bit rot |
| 09:10.50 | findlay | ~confuse brac |
| 09:10.50 | ibot | yes those was their pants tomorrow ? |
| 09:11.07 | findlay | ~say -chat ~say -chat |
| 09:11.07 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat |
| 09:11.09 | brac | ~say -chat ~say -chat ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay -lart veracity |
| 09:11.10 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay -lart veracity |
| 09:11.11 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 09:11.49 | Sargun | Hm, what happened to my onjoin |
| 09:11.58 | Sargun | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/welcome.py |
| 09:12.01 | brac | [~ |
| 09:12.01 | brac | ~say You look like a million dollars. All green and wrinkled. |
| 09:12.02 | ibot | You look like a million dollars. All green and wrinkled. |
| 09:12.02 | brac | ~] |
| 09:12.09 | Sargun | ~onjoin Sargun http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/welcome.py |
| 09:12.09 | ibot | Sargun: ok |
| 09:12.11 | brac | [~ |
| 09:12.11 | brac | ~say You are fairminded, just and loving. |
| 09:12.12 | ibot | You are fairminded, just and loving. |
| 09:12.12 | brac | ~] |
| 09:12.24 | Sargun | Why is brack CTCPing me? |
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| 09:12.27 | brac | [~ |
| 09:12.28 | brac | ~say You have the power to influence all with whom you come in contact. |
| 09:12.28 | ibot | You have the power to influence all with whom you come in contact. |
| 09:12.28 | brac | ~] |
| 09:12.35 | Sargun | mheath is getting married |
| 09:12.38 | Sargun | what the heck? |
| 09:12.40 | Sargun | Who wrote that? |
| 09:12.47 | Sargun | who still maintains contact with Mheath? |
| 09:12.50 | Sargun | who would marry mheath |
| 09:13.20 | Lakshmi | well congrats to mheath |
| 09:13.27 | Lakshmi | uhm someone ? |
| 09:13.33 | Sargun | Lakshmi, Why is that congrats |
| 09:13.37 | Sargun | That's terrible |
| 09:13.42 | Sargun | well I guess not for mheath |
| 09:13.42 | Lakshmi | because they are getting married |
| 09:13.48 | Sargun | but for any normal mortal.. |
| 09:13.52 | Lakshmi | is mheath male or female? |
| 09:14.29 | Sargun | male |
| 09:15.13 | Lakshmi | ah |
| 09:15.14 | Lakshmi | yeah |
| 09:15.17 | Lakshmi | then congrats to him |
| 09:15.26 | Lakshmi | he used to live here didnt he |
| 09:15.30 | sontek | I think its lies to see reactions |
| 09:15.32 | sontek | http://blog.mtheath.net/ |
| 09:15.35 | sontek | he didn't mention it there |
| 09:15.54 | sontek | You'd think he'd blog about something that important |
| 09:15.59 | findlay | Sargun: your onjoin is boring. It just repeats whatever it says |
| 09:16.15 | findlay | you've got to do something clever. Something unexpected |
| 09:16.18 | Sargun | true. |
| 09:16.41 | Sargun | sontek, Last I thought he was banned |
| 09:16.47 | Sargun | I think at some point he even got k-lined |
| 09:16.51 | findlay | like have it define a new command :) |
| 09:17.48 | Sargun | like |
| 09:17.56 | Lakshmi | like uh what? |
| 09:18.01 | findlay | ~like |
| 09:18.01 | ibot | rumour has it, like is it a gateway or and HP or something? |
| 09:18.28 | findlay | -chat ~onjoin |
| 09:18.28 | brac | ~onjoin had |
| 09:19.05 | findlay | -movieplot |
| 09:19.06 | brac | Summary: He's an ungodly flyboy cowboy with a passion for fast cars. She's a high-kicking psychic queen of the dead fleeing from a Satanic cult. They fight crime. |
| 09:20.03 | findlay | Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | Happy RamaHanaKwanzMas and Merry New Year | mheath is getting married... seriously | SCO has been delisted, ~quote scoxeq.pk | They fight crime. |
| 09:20.11 | *** topic/#utah by findlay -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | Happy RamaHanaKwanzMas and Merry New Year | mheath is getting married... seriously | SCO has been delisted, ~quote scoxeq.pk | They fight crime. |
| 09:21.13 | findlay | ~chat mheath |
| 09:21.20 | findlay | -chat mheath |
| 09:21.20 | brac | mheath is desperately needed. I generally drop caps, and use Windows anymore |
| 09:23.53 | findlay | protest random channel creation, /join #random-channel. Random channels increase freenode's carbon footprint by 7 yoctotons every day |
| 09:24.12 | findlay | anyway |
| 09:24.35 | findlay | nothing in the inbox |
| 09:24.51 | findlay | maybe I should rejoin lkml. That'll fill it up |
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| 09:48.25 | brac | [~ |
| 09:48.25 | brac | ~say You will live a long, healthy, happy life and make bags of money. |
| 09:48.26 | ibot | You will live a long, healthy, happy life and make bags of money. |
| 09:48.26 | brac | ~] |
| 13:13.32 | atoponce | svn wordpress 2.4 looks nice |
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| 15:29.06 | ^Migs^ | -movieplot |
| 15:29.06 | brac | Summary: He's a globe-trotting small-town cowboy for the 21st century. She's a radical impetuous museum curator with a flame-thrower. They fight crime. |
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| 16:16.31 | levi | Wow, VMWare Player/Workstation is way nicer than VMWare Server. |
| 16:16.39 | levi | No wonder they give Server away for free. |
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| 16:18.24 | RedHeron | I think it should all be given away for free. |
| 16:18.31 | elg | HAMs? |
| 16:18.46 | RedHeron | I was actually surprised VMWare even mentions GPL. |
| 16:19.08 | RedHeron | HAMs? Mrph? |
| 16:19.57 | elg | radio enthusiasts |
| 16:20.01 | elg | people who know about antennas, mostly |
| 16:20.33 | RedHeron | Oh, that kind of ham. |
| 16:20.53 | levi | What do you want to know about antennas? |
| 16:20.54 | elg | i know there are some, so I keep asking hoping to rope one |
| 16:21.08 | levi | You might try the PLUG list, too. |
| 16:21.11 | elg | i want to make my own antenna for this scanner to get better reception in the aviation band |
| 16:21.51 | elg | the included antenna is too short for that band, it's aimed at higher bands |
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| 16:28.53 | levi | Hey, my medical insurance company actually responded to a query I made via a web form. |
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| 16:32.03 | goozbach | my tired |
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| 16:49.17 | maquis | goozbach: your tired what? |
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| 17:09.50 | tensai | elg: I believe kematoha (sp?) is who you're looking for |
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| 17:14.34 | tensai | elg: kemotaha and hagna were discussing antennas the other day. look for them. |
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| 17:45.54 | linuxalien | I wish my hot pants were sexier |
| 17:46.04 | linuxalien | ibot, will you marry me? |
| 17:46.04 | ibot | no, linuxalien, I prefer virile men. |
| 17:46.08 | linuxalien | lol |
| 17:46.28 | linuxalien | Yeah...even bots make fun of me. I think it's time to buy a real doll. :P |
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| 17:57.25 | sontek | UFC 79 tonight, whos got ppv?! |
| 17:59.57 | linuxalien | sontek, I'm an ignoramous for asking, but what's that? sports? |
| 18:03.05 | sontek | ultimate fighting championship |
| 18:03.20 | linuxalien | Sweet. Those guys are tough |
| 18:06.09 | linuxalien | :) |
| 18:14.36 | linuxalien | time for work |
| 18:14.37 | linuxalien | laters |
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| 18:32.12 | brasto | how do you get jbot to forget an action? |
| 18:32.22 | brasto | the command ~forget <actionname> doesn't work, and it doesn't matter if there's a factoid with the same name |
| 18:32.34 | brasto | the command ~no <actionname> has never worked for me, and ~no <factoid> doesn't work either. |
| 18:57.59 | Supaplex | is it a cmd: type action? |
| 18:58.13 | Supaplex | what's the trigger to set it off? |
| 19:01.02 | Tene | brasto: example thing you want it to forget? |
| 19:03.58 | Supaplex | ~literal blorb2 |
| 19:03.58 | ibot | "blorb2" is "<action> blorb $s" |
| 19:04.05 | Supaplex | ibot: forget blorb2 |
| 19:04.05 | ibot | i forgot blorb2, Supaplex |
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| 19:15.43 | thaddeusq | ~blorb2 |
| 19:29.31 | mrpull | http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/28/eee-pc-hacked-for-internal-3g-hsdpa/ |
| 19:29.33 | brac | [Eee PC hacked for internal 3G HSDPA - Engadget] |
| 19:29.35 | mrpull | now that is just cool. |
| 19:45.15 | RedHeron | That is cool. |
| 20:00.35 | atoponce | i need a new wordpress theme |
| 20:30.42 | Zelut | I'm going to try out MTOS today. I'm tired of wordpress |
| 20:33.16 | nick125 | Sargun: hi |
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| 20:41.14 | goozbach | perl perl perl! |
| 20:41.19 | goozbach | I invoke fozzmoo! |
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| 20:43.19 | Lakshmi | not bad |
| 20:45.30 | Sargun | nick125, sup |
| 20:46.20 | Sargun | -movieplot |
| 20:46.20 | brac | Summary: He's an old-fashioned voodoo vampire hunter fleeing from a secret government programme. She's a mistrustful mute archaeologist who dreams of becoming Elvis. They fight crime. |
| 20:46.30 | nick125 | Sargun: not too much, you? |
| 20:46.35 | Sargun | nick125, not too much |
| 20:46.46 | Sargun | Might start an electronics project. |
| 20:46.51 | Sargun | but I don't want to write ASM |
| 20:46.56 | Sargun | ARM ASM |
| 20:47.54 | levi | Why not? |
| 20:48.02 | atoponce | Zelut: let me know how it goes. has it been released yet? |
| 20:48.47 | Sargun | uh. |
| 20:48.52 | Sargun | ASM is scary |
| 20:49.06 | levi | Sargun: What's scary about it? |
| 20:49.31 | Zelut | atoponce: just dailies.. but so far its a PITA to install. I'm not impressed. |
| 20:49.46 | Sargun | it just doesn't make sense. |
| 20:49.51 | Sargun | I mean |
| 20:49.59 | Sargun | I guess I've never read a good ASM manual. |
| 20:50.14 | Sargun | but I have yet to find any good (preferably online) ASM manuals |
| 20:50.19 | levi | Sargun: It makes plenty of sense. It's extremely simple. |
| 20:50.35 | Sargun | levi, Then how would one go about learning it. |
| 20:50.38 | levi | Doing anything with it becomes complicated, but only because it's so simple. |
| 20:50.40 | Sargun | It doesn't use english. |
| 20:51.04 | levi | Sargun: Well, if you want to learn x86 asm in Linux, you could read 'Programming From the Ground Up' |
| 20:51.15 | Sargun | Online Guide? |
| 20:51.23 | levi | Yes, it's online. |
| 20:52.15 | atoponce | Zelut: wasn't it supposed to be released like ages ago? |
| 20:52.58 | atoponce | Zelut: btw, there seems to be quite a few changes in wp 2.4 |
| 20:53.12 | Zelut | atoponce: wp 2.4 released? |
| 20:53.21 | atoponce | not yet |
| 20:53.30 | atoponce | i'm running the svn version |
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| 20:57.30 | nick125 | Sargun: ASM is nasty. |
| 20:57.50 | Sargun | nick125, I know, buts its nifty if you can write in it |
| 20:58.11 | atoponce | heh |
| 20:58.31 | atoponce | i bought my wife 3 bags of chex mix, all different flavors |
| 20:58.50 | atoponce | i tell her "i hope you like all the flavors i got" |
| 20:59.03 | atoponce | and she thinks i'm referring to distros instead |
| 20:59.05 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:59.17 | Sargun | Haha. |
| 20:59.37 | Sargun | Where'd you find a geeky SO? |
| 20:59.41 | findlay | yay |
| 20:59.48 | Sargun | and good job at choosing a good wife. |
| 20:59.50 | atoponce | i think i converted her |
| 21:00.37 | Sargun | atoponce, How? |
| 21:00.49 | atoponce | dunno. i'm still working that one out. :) |
| 21:01.00 | findlay | Sargun: atoponce married my cousin. How could anyone related to me *not* be geeky? |
| 21:01.11 | Zelut | atoponce: so I'm about to be done with MTOS. Way too many perl modules need installing |
| 21:01.20 | Sargun | findlay, Did he meet her through you? |
| 21:01.37 | findlay | Sargun: nope |
| 21:02.04 | Sargun | findlay, Did you meet atoponce through her |
| 21:02.15 | findlay | Sargun: not online |
| 21:02.33 | atoponce | Sargun: i met my wife on my mission. we were both LDS missionaries |
| 21:02.35 | Sargun | but IRL you did |
| 21:02.38 | Sargun | ah. |
| 21:02.45 | Sargun | I thought women didn't have to go on missions. |
| 21:02.48 | atoponce | when i married her, i met her family and such |
| 21:03.35 | Sargun | and then you met findlay, the impossibly annoying geek :-P |
| 21:03.45 | Sargun | and you were like it's findlay! |
| 21:03.46 | findlay | but atoponce came onto #utah a little after I did and back in 2005 we discovered the connection. We've been partners against crime ever since |
| 21:03.53 | findlay | They fight crime. |
| 21:03.54 | atoponce | Sargun: they can if they want. they only go for 18 months though, rather than 24 |
| 21:03.55 | Sargun | Ah |
| 21:04.53 | Sargun | atoponce, Oh, hmph. Do you think the mission really gives you perspective? |
| 21:05.17 | atoponce | perspective on life? it opened my eyes in many different ways |
| 21:05.27 | atoponce | perspective on what exactly? |
| 21:06.52 | atoponce | findlay: have you converted to dvorak yet? |
| 21:06.59 | atoponce | keri wants to know |
| 21:09.23 | Sargun | nick125, You've unlocked several moto phones |
| 21:09.24 | Sargun | right |
| 21:10.34 | nick125 | Sargun: Motorola devices are extremely hard to unlock. |
| 21:10.44 | Sargun | nick125, :-( |
| 21:10.48 | Sargun | I hate GSM |
| 21:10.51 | Sargun | like no other |
| 21:11.08 | nick125 | They are probably some of the hardest devices to unlock. |
| 21:11.29 | nick125 | Well... |
| 21:11.40 | nick125 | If you have the correct equipment, it's easy. |
| 21:11.51 | Sargun | haaha |
| 21:11.55 | nick125 | The only problem is that the equipment costs about $300. |
| 21:12.42 | Sargun | my phone was $10 |
| 21:12.44 | Sargun | haha |
| 21:12.47 | Sargun | :- |
| 21:12.48 | Sargun | ( |
| 21:12.50 | nick125 | What kind of phone? |
| 21:12.56 | nick125 | And it'll probably cost $30 to unlock it. |
| 21:13.03 | Sargun | C168 |
| 21:13.12 | nick125 | oouucchh. |
| 21:14.36 | Lakshmi | hi sargun! |
| 21:14.38 | Lakshmi | sup?. |
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| 21:50.51 | Sargun | levi, Shouldn't they not use PDF? |
| 21:51.12 | Sargun | Shouldn't gnu.org use PS or something less proprietary |
| 21:52.38 | elg | pdf is an iso standard |
| 21:52.39 | elg | get off it |
| 21:58.38 | fozzmoo | Sargun: All non-text information should be PBM files. ;-) |
| 22:11.08 | findlay | atoponce: not yet |
| 22:11.37 | findlay | atoponce: I'm still pecking away with this old, budget keyboard waiting for a deal on an IBM |
| 22:12.56 | findlay | how about metapost :) |
| 22:13.33 | findlay | can't get anymore anti IP than Knuth |
| 22:14.20 | findlay | s/anti/magnificiently superiorly unaware and unneeded/ |
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| 22:15.39 | findlay | yay, thaddeusq's back |
| 22:22.38 | Sargun | Thad! |
| 22:23.16 | findlay | heh |
| 22:23.37 | thaddeusq | calm down folks. It's just Thad. :) |
| 22:23.51 | findlay | yay |
| 22:24.04 | atoponce | elg: that doesn't excuse the fact that gnu and fsf are using non-free software to distribute docs |
| 22:24.24 | elg | such as? |
| 22:24.29 | elg | i missed the first part |
| 22:24.45 | atoponce | pdf may be an iso standard, but only adobe controls it's development |
| 22:25.18 | brasto | Supaplex and Tene, I stepped away for a while. here's a sample one to forget: |
| 22:25.25 | brasto | ~literal motel6 |
| 22:25.38 | elg | it's not software |
| 22:25.40 | elg | it's a spec |
| 22:25.57 | findlay | but still a language |
| 22:26.17 | brasto | it doesn't work that way either... |
| 22:26.18 | elg | there's no freedom restrictions on using the language |
| 22:26.26 | brasto | ~motel6 Supaplex |
| 22:26.26 | ibot | ACTION Leaves the lights on for Supaplex |
| 22:26.32 | elg | you can write gpl software in pdf if you feel like it |
| 22:26.39 | brasto | ~motel6 tene |
| 22:26.40 | ibot | ACTION Leaves the lights on for tene |
| 22:26.44 | brasto | it works that way |
| 22:26.59 | elg | there are free software pdf viewers |
| 22:27.17 | findlay | sounds kind of like a pine situation |
| 22:27.20 | elg | I see no problem. nobody's forcing you to care about the future or past development of PDF |
| 22:27.25 | Tene | ibot: forget motel6 (.*) |
| 22:27.25 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'motel6 (.*)' to forget, Tene |
| 22:27.27 | elg | the current version works and works well |
| 22:27.30 | elg | better than ps |
| 22:27.57 | brasto | ~no, motel6 $1 is <action> never turns off the lights for $1 |
| 22:28.39 | thaddeusq | ibot: forget motel6 |
| 22:28.39 | ibot | thaddeusq: i didn't have anything called 'motel6' to forget |
| 22:29.06 | brasto | no combination of ~no or ~forget works for motel6. That's one example of a few I've found along the way |
| 22:29.19 | brasto | and interestingly, the ~literal didn't work on it either. |
| 22:29.26 | findlay | ~literal cmd: motel6 (.*?) |
| 22:29.27 | ibot | "cmd: motel6 (.*?)" is "($1): <action> Leaves the lights on for $1" |
| 22:29.40 | brasto | ah..., that worked... |
| 22:29.56 | brasto | oh... |
| 22:30.07 | brasto | wait |
| 22:30.15 | brasto | motel6 $1 someone |
| 22:30.23 | findlay | ~literal cmd: lart (.*?) |
| 22:30.24 | ibot | "cmd: lart (.*?)" is "($1): shut up $1" |
| 22:30.24 | brasto | doh! |
| 22:30.45 | brasto | ~motel6 $1 someone |
| 22:30.46 | ibot | ACTION Leaves the lights on for $1 someone |
| 22:31.22 | Tene | ibot: forget motel6 (.*?) |
| 22:31.22 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'motel6 (.*?)' to forget, Tene |
| 22:31.33 | brasto | ~literal cmd: chuckfact (.*?) |
| 22:31.46 | brasto | ~chuckfact |
| 22:31.46 | ibot | Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops |
| 22:32.05 | findlay | ~literal cmd: lart |
| 22:32.19 | brasto | ~no motel6 (.*?) |
| 22:32.28 | findlay | ~no |
| 22:32.29 | ibot | YES |
| 22:32.31 | findlay | ~yes |
| 22:32.32 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 22:32.36 | brasto | lol |
| 22:32.42 | findlay | -chat |
| 22:32.45 | brac | bah. I hate it |
| 22:32.48 | brasto | ~shutup |
| 22:32.49 | ibot | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 22:32.59 | brasto | ~stfu |
| 22:33.00 | ibot | :( |
| 22:33.01 | findlay | -chat Chuck Norris |
| 22:33.01 | brac | Chuck Norris for help. |
| 22:33.28 | brasto | anyway, I can't reprogram some actions for ibot after I program them... |
| 22:33.41 | brasto | s/program/define/ |
| 22:34.02 | brasto | ? |
| 22:34.12 | brasto | s/program /define / |
| 22:34.22 | findlay | ~motel6 brasto |
| 22:34.23 | ibot | ACTION Leaves the lights on for brasto |
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| 22:35.41 | brasto | ~no motel6 |
| 22:35.45 | brasto | ~forget motel6 |
| 22:35.45 | ibot | brasto: i didn't have anything called 'motel6' to forget |
| 22:36.05 | findlay | ~forget motel6 (.*?) |
| 22:36.05 | ibot | findlay: i forgot motel6 (.*?) |
| 22:36.22 | brasto | odd, didn't someone do that same thing earlier findlay? |
| 22:36.31 | findlay | ~literal cmd: motel6 (.*?) |
| 22:36.31 | ibot | "cmd: motel6 (.*?)" is "($1): <action> Leaves the lights on for $1" |
| 22:36.40 | findlay | ibot: are you busted? |
| 22:36.45 | brasto | seems it didn't work anyway |
| 22:36.49 | brasto | ~recursion |
| 22:36.50 | ibot | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. |
| 22:36.55 | findlay | ~recurse |
| 22:36.56 | ibot | ~recurse |
| 22:37.15 | atoponce | elg: so, the 4 freedoms apply only to software and not specs? |
| 22:38.14 | findlay | I want 7 freedoms |
| 22:39.02 | findlay | this CD player keeps flaking out when I power it with on the rated 4.5 V, so I'm stepping it up to 6 V |
| 22:45.06 | mrpull | grrr... |
| 22:45.14 | mrpull | guy: "I need 12 zones setup" |
| 22:45.24 | mrpull | me: "ok send the list" |
| 22:45.49 | mrpull | me: "nice list of 90 zones" |
| 22:46.23 | Sargun | HAHA |
| 22:46.41 | Sargun | write a script? |
| 22:46.52 | mrpull | yup. easily done with perl. |
| 22:47.01 | mrpull | but still 12!=90 |
| 22:47.08 | mrpull | not in my universe at least |
| 22:50.12 | Lakshmi | wow |
| 22:50.14 | Lakshmi | sounds hard |
| 22:50.31 | Sargun | or python |
| 22:50.54 | Lakshmi | which is easier |
| 22:50.56 | Lakshmi | ? |
| 22:51.05 | Lakshmi | hi sargun? |
| 22:51.20 | elg | atoponce: what about music? movies? newspapers? do the FSF people use those? |
| 22:51.36 | elg | how can you support an organization that allows its employees to read the newspaper? |
| 22:51.39 | mrpull | Lakshmi: for this task perl was easier |
| 22:51.53 | Lakshmi | yeah so your way was better |
| 22:52.39 | mrpull | except I've been tinkering a bit with python recently and perl felt a little rusty |
| 22:53.16 | atoponce | elg: mp3? wma? mov? flash? all supported by fsf? |
| 22:54.21 | elg | so really you're mostly upset that the fsf is less crazed than you are and that disturbs you |
| 22:55.32 | Sargun | mrpull, well perl has some neat regex stuff though |
| 22:55.47 | atoponce | heh. i don't give a flying leap. i just find it convenient |
| 22:55.56 | atoponce | for the fsf that is |
| 22:56.03 | mrpull | Sargun: agreed... and? |
| 22:56.14 | atoponce | i have my own ideals, and they don't necessarily meet eye to eye with fsf and rms |
| 22:56.19 | Sargun | pythons are different |
| 22:56.24 | Sargun | than perls |
| 22:56.32 | Sargun | Most perl people hate pypi. |
| 22:56.33 | levi | Anyone who has trouble with pdf due to 'freedom issues' is deranged. |
| 22:56.34 | Sargun | er |
| 22:56.35 | Sargun | pythjon |
| 22:56.37 | Sargun | python |
| 22:56.44 | Sargun | levi, it was a joke |
| 22:56.46 | atoponce | i use pdf, flash, and most other formats without issue |
| 22:56.52 | atoponce | my computer uses a non-free bios |
| 22:57.08 | atoponce | i have microcode in my wifi and cdrom, amongst others |
| 22:57.12 | levi | I also see no trouble with the FSF distributing pdf files. |
| 22:57.15 | atoponce | i have a cell phone! |
| 22:57.41 | Sargun | levi, It'd be nicer if they used latex, HTML, ps |
| 22:58.01 | atoponce | i'm more critical of fsf and gnu than supportive |
| 22:58.22 | Sargun | atoponce, you're CDroms run microcode?! |
| 22:58.27 | elg | ah, then, carry on :) |
| 22:58.40 | elg | feel free to use anything convenient for making fun of the fsf. I won't interfere |
| 22:58.43 | atoponce | Sargun: so does yours. afaik, they all do |
| 22:58.57 | Sargun | CDROM drives. |
| 22:59.00 | levi | Well, I think being wrongly critical is almost as bad as being wrongly uncritical. |
| 22:59.29 | levi | Depends on your definition of 'microcode' |
| 22:59.58 | levi | They probably all run some sort of firmware on a microcontroller, if that's what you mean. |
| 23:00.14 | Sargun | levi, Most CDRom drives have firmware |
| 23:00.35 | levi | AFAIK, 'microcode' typically refers to the code that implements machine instructions in a CPU. |
| 23:00.38 | Sargun | I'm surprised no one has used the software on SD cards to do anything creative. |
| 23:01.36 | atoponce | levi: that's what i'm referring to |
| 23:01.52 | atoponce | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcode |
| 23:02.19 | findlay | ~microcode atoponce |
| 23:02.47 | atoponce | elg: i've drinken the kool-aid, so-to-speak, and will promote free software at every turn. however, there is a line between practicality and ideaology. |
| 23:02.55 | findlay | anyway, I should be working, and look what you guys have got me doing: browsing RSS? |
| 23:02.55 | atoponce | either you can get things done, or you can geek it up |
| 23:03.04 | findlay | it's all your fault |
| 23:03.08 | findlay | I demand compensation |
| 23:03.12 | atoponce | ~pay findlay |
| 23:03.17 | levi | atoponce: So you mean the code that defines CPU instructions, or the one that calls firmware microcode? |
| 23:03.18 | findlay | $128 will do |
| 23:03.56 | atoponce | levi: from what i understand of microcode in your cdrom, code that calls firmware |
| 23:04.01 | Sargun | How much do you think a $13 SD card costs |
| 23:04.07 | atoponce | or wifi for that matter |
| 23:04.19 | Sargun | wholesale? |
| 23:04.28 | atoponce | $13 |
| 23:04.49 | levi | atoponce: Nothing 'calls' firmware, it's the program that runs on the microcontroller. |
| 23:04.54 | Sargun | you think they don't make profit off it |
| 23:05.43 | levi | I wonder if many embedded CPUs are microcoded. I wouldn't imagine they are. |
| 23:05.43 | atoponce | levi: doesn't my intel wifi driver call a pre-compiled firmware that i have to load into the kernel? |
| 23:05.48 | findlay | Sargun: give me $13 and I'll think it for you |
| 23:06.08 | atoponce | i guess i'm confused now |
| 23:06.34 | levi | atoponce: The firmware isn't loaded into the kernel, it's loaded into the wifi chip. |
| 23:06.46 | Sargun | levi, some are. |
| 23:06.48 | atoponce | yeah. that's what i meant. :) |
| 23:06.53 | Sargun | I know some of the Xscales where |
| 23:06.55 | levi | atoponce: And I suppose you could say that the kernel drivers 'call' the firmware. |
| 23:06.57 | findlay | do I have firmware or microcode? |
| 23:07.08 | Sargun | they were bootstrapped with another device at boot |
| 23:07.16 | levi | findlay: In the context atoponce is using, they are synonymous. |
| 23:07.38 | atoponce | from what i understand of microcode, it's code by the cpu designers in the chip itself. |
| 23:07.49 | atoponce | maybe i should just quit while i'm ahead |
| 23:07.51 | findlay | must be in the cerebellum then |
| 23:07.55 | Sargun | haha |
| 23:09.27 | levi | atoponce: There are two definitions. There's the 'code in the CPU that implements the asm instructions' and the 'code in a hardware device that implements its functionality', which is a.k.a. firmware. |
| 23:09.47 | atoponce | at any event, get things done, or geek it up. your choice. mine is the former, even if i lean to the latter from time to time |
| 23:10.10 | levi | I'm currently writing a Wireshark plugin for IEEE 1722. |
| 23:10.35 | mrpull | what is 1722? |
| 23:11.26 | levi | A media transport protocol for the new ethernet audio/video bridging standard. |
| 23:12.07 | levi | So, I get to geek it up while getting things done. :) |
| 23:12.15 | atoponce | heh |
| 23:15.40 | atoponce | get 'er done |
| 23:18.53 | Sargun | So, registers are like active variables? |
| 23:20.49 | Sargun | levi, right? |
| 23:20.54 | rsimpkins | Why do most lotions have alcohol in them? |
| 23:22.00 | Sargun | Most head lice lotions are very flammable, and some horrible burns have occurred when people?s hair has caught fire. When you or your child have lotion on your hair, keep well away from fires, candles, gas cookers, pilot lights, matches and cigarette lighters |
| 23:22.28 | rsimpkins | I'm not going to ask how you know that. :) |
| 23:22.35 | Sargun | haha |
| 23:22.36 | Sargun | google |
| 23:23.19 | undertakingyou | brasto: ping |
| 23:24.20 | levi | Sargun: variables, in high level languages, can be stored in registers, on the stack, or in the heap. |
| 23:24.33 | Sargun | Cosmetic-grade alcohol is used for a few different reasons: As an antibacterial agent, as a drying agent (to 'dry down' a lotion or cream after application), and gives a cool, refreshing feel to sprays and lotions. It is not Rubbing Alcohol, which is much too harsh for skin on the face. Do not be afraid of cosmetics with alcohol, unless you are extremly dry or sensitive, the emulsifying ingredients in lotions will counter any drying affects of the al |
| 23:24.33 | Sargun | cohol. Sincerely, Betty |
| 23:24.51 | Sargun | The book hasn't gotten into stack/heap |
| 23:25.08 | Sargun | it got into pointers |
| 23:25.45 | levi | Sargun: Actually, 'variables' can also point into your static data space. |
| 23:26.13 | mrpull | rsimpkins: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-08/st_whatsinside |
| 23:26.43 | levi | Sargun: Just think of registers as handy places to store stuff. They're the fastest storage available on the computer, so a lot of the speed of a compute-intensive algorithm will depend on how you use them. |
| 23:28.53 | brasto | undertakingyou: I'm here |
| 23:29.47 | levi | Sargun: Most arithmetic instructions get their operands and return their value to registers, too. And there are sometimes special-purpose registers that hold flags and stuff so you can test for conditions. |
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| 23:32.51 | Sargun | hm |
| 23:32.53 | Sargun | yeah |
| 23:32.55 | Sargun | ~seen amcnabb |
| 23:32.59 | ibot | amcnabb <n=amcnabb@c-67-171-116-239.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 167d 23h 1m 20s ago, saying: 'Very true.'. |
| 23:33.04 | findlay | ~seen Sargun |
| 23:33.05 | ibot | sargun is currently on #asterisk (13h 44m 41s) #utah (13h 44m 41s). Has said a total of 78 messages. Is idling for 10s, last said: '~seen amcnabb'. |
| 23:33.14 | tensai | ~seen findlay |
| 23:33.16 | ibot | findlay is currently on #utah (14h 12m 11s) #ubuntu-us-ut (14h 12m 11s). Has said a total of 81 messages. Is idling for 12s, last said: '~seen Sargun '. |
| 23:33.46 | findlay | how'd ibot get into #asterisk? |
| 23:33.54 | findlay | he's all over the place |
| 23:34.01 | findlay | and I thought he was just following me |
| 23:40.13 | dataw0lf | jsmith I assume |
| 23:42.19 | atoponce | findlay: ibot is everywhere and ibot is nowhere |
| 23:50.06 | findlay | ibot: where are you? |
| 23:50.06 | ibot | I am at 42.37512 N, 72.51999 W |
| 23:50.21 | findlay | of course |
| 23:51.39 | dataw0lf | what's that, Jersey? |
| 23:52.08 | dataw0lf | Amherst. Huh. |
| 23:55.40 | herlo | anybody near murray that can help me load a couch into and out of a truck in the next 30 mins? |
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