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| 01:59.48 | herlo | giver is awesome! |
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| 01:59.59 | herlo | http://code.google.com/p/giver |
| 02:09.55 | stuporglu1 | I just got an HDTV with VGA input. The TV's native resolution is 1366x768, but I can only get my computer to display 1024x768 on it. My video card can do more than that...shouldn't I be able to get native resolution on this thing? |
| 02:12.23 | Supaplex | it's only a blamy 17.2F here |
| 02:17.54 | herlo | Supaplex: balmy? |
| 02:18.21 | Supaplex | sarcasm |
| 02:19.40 | herlo | but sarcasm will do |
| 02:56.22 | findlay | sarcasm? Like, having to do with Socrates? |
| 02:58.28 | herlo | findlay: could be |
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| 02:59.49 | findlay | ~socrates |
| 02:59.50 | ibot | [socrates] philosopher. |
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| 03:20.51 | brac | [~ |
| 03:20.52 | brac | ~say You need more time; and you probably always will. |
| 03:20.52 | ibot | You need more time; and you probably always will. |
| 03:20.52 | brac | ~] |
| 03:24.16 | Lakshmi | hey sargun |
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| 03:25.11 | Lakshmi | hey |
| 03:25.15 | Lakshmi | xbmodder_ ? |
| 03:26.25 | xbmodder_ | hey Lakshmi |
| 03:26.39 | Lakshmi | hows things? |
| 03:26.42 | Lakshmi | and the plane and such |
| 03:26.46 | Lakshmi | and canada! |
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| 04:21.19 | Xbmodder | Lakshmi: save me. |
| 04:21.30 | Lakshmi | Xbmodder from? |
| 04:21.38 | Xbmodder | my cousin |
| 04:21.38 | Lakshmi | canada? |
| 04:21.40 | Xbmodder | Please |
| 04:21.41 | Lakshmi | oh |
| 04:21.45 | Xbmodder | he is insane |
| 04:21.47 | Xbmodder | completely |
| 04:21.48 | Lakshmi | uh what do you want me to do |
| 04:21.48 | Lakshmi | cute? |
| 04:21.51 | Xbmodder | uh |
| 04:21.53 | Xbmodder | uhhh |
| 04:21.56 | Xbmodder | come here |
| 04:22.01 | Lakshmi | send me a pic |
| 04:22.06 | Lakshmi | and id love to come there |
| 04:22.28 | Lakshmi | what kinda person is he? |
| 04:22.33 | Lakshmi | whats he talking bout |
| 04:22.49 | Lakshmi | id suggest you tell him that you have to go to the bathrooma n sneak away |
| 04:22.56 | Lakshmi | or hang out with the parents |
| 04:23.03 | Lakshmi | plus isnt he like your sis's age? |
| 04:23.34 | Xbmodder | uh |
| 04:23.36 | Xbmodder | pm me |
| 04:23.41 | Lakshmi | i did |
| 04:24.25 | Xbmodder | 71~1~1~1~ |
| 04:24.27 | Xbmodder | noo |
| 04:25.42 | Lakshmi | noo?. |
| 04:25.44 | Lakshmi | no what? |
| 04:25.57 | Lakshmi | btw: i pmed you, is it working? |
| 04:26.00 | Lakshmi | or did it work? |
| 04:26.17 | Lakshmi | Xbmodder join # pm |
| 04:26.34 | Lakshmi | or something please... |
| 04:29.07 | Xbmodder | I pmed you |
| 04:29.10 | Xbmodder | respond |
| 04:29.38 | Xbmodder | oops. |
| 04:29.43 | Xbmodder | ~ping |
| 04:29.43 | ibot | pong |
| 04:33.31 | Lakshmi | i did |
| 04:33.38 | Lakshmi | Xbmodder i cant |
| 04:33.40 | Lakshmi | respond |
| 04:33.45 | Lakshmi | i told you to join # pm |
| 04:33.47 | Lakshmi | or # us |
| 04:33.57 | Lakshmi | can u join another channel? |
| 04:35.01 | Lakshmi | Xbmodder dude. |
| 04:42.56 | Lakshmi | hi anyone/. |
| 04:55.13 | Lakshmi | Xbmodder i PM'd you |
| 04:55.15 | Lakshmi | RESPOND |
| 04:55.18 | Lakshmi | RESPON! |
| 04:55.21 | Lakshmi | RESPOND! |
| 04:56.38 | Lakshmi | Xbmodder if you come back, aim me. please. |
| 05:00.56 | Lakshmi | nvm |
| 05:01.00 | Lakshmi | Xbmodder are u aliveR? |
| 05:04.18 | vontrapp | what does it meann when your video card puts randdom flickering dots and lines on your sscreen, and causes your computer to at random times? |
| 05:04.40 | vontrapp | s/computer to/computer to hang/ |
| 05:23.17 | Sargun | Watts = Amps * volts |
| 05:37.21 | levi | vontrapp: What kind of card? |
| 05:38.02 | levi | vontrapp: I've read that the garbage on the screen can be an indication of insufficient memory bandwidth to drive the card at the current resolution/color depth/refresh rate. |
| 05:38.32 | levi | vontrapp: Shows up in that case with on-board chips with no dedicated video RAM. |
| 05:38.55 | levi | vontrapp: The hanging sound like a symptom of a bad video driver. |
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| 05:46.07 | Sargun | /kick Lakshmi |
| 05:46.24 | Lakshmi | sargun why are u kicking me! |
| 05:46.28 | Lakshmi | whatd i do!? |
| 05:46.55 | Sargun | What's the best way to do a relational database for filesystems under Linux? |
| 05:47.48 | vontrapp_ | arg! ok, so what does it mean when your video card makes random flickering dots and hangs the computer randomly? |
| 05:48.09 | vontrapp_ | didn't see if anyone answered because my computer froze |
| 05:48.19 | vontrapp_ | completely unrelated, though |
| 05:48.29 | Lakshmi | my hair smells nice |
| 05:48.32 | Lakshmi | thats the most unrelated |
| 05:49.23 | vontrapp_ | Sargun: there's FUSE |
| 05:49.39 | Sargun | vontrapp_, for the relational database structure? |
| 05:49.48 | Sargun | nest folders in folders |
| 05:49.50 | vontrapp_ | yeah |
| 05:49.51 | Sargun | using another table |
| 05:49.55 | Sargun | or use SQL multi |
| 05:50.03 | Sargun | but that back refrences will be difficult |
| 05:50.15 | Sargun | because then you have to brute force it sort of |
| 05:51.22 | vontrapp_ | if i was doing a relational db filesystem, it wouldn't be heirarchical i think |
| 06:01.23 | Sargun | hm. |
| 06:01.32 | Sargun | I think I know how to do it |
| 06:01.36 | Sargun | but I don't wanna do it :-( |
| 06:01.54 | Sargun | Does anyone know a good tool to diagram network connections? |
| 06:04.34 | nick125 | paper + pen |
| 06:07.31 | Lakshmi | FLOW CHARTS sargun |
| 06:07.32 | Lakshmi | sargun |
| 06:07.35 | Lakshmi | flow charts! |
| 06:07.39 | Lakshmi | duh@@ |
| 06:09.09 | Sargun | I was thinking flow chart |
| 06:09.11 | Sargun | Ok |
| 06:09.15 | Sargun | I'm going with flow chart |
| 06:17.03 | Lakshmi | Sargun hows the flow chart? |
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| 06:27.43 | Lakshmi | sargun sargun !! |
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| 07:21.03 | Lakshmi | hey sargun! |
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| 07:46.01 | Lakshmi | hey findlay |
| 07:46.04 | Lakshmi | hey fozzmoo |
| 07:46.22 | fozzmoo | Hi Lakshmi |
| 07:47.08 | Lakshmi | sup? |
| 07:48.15 | fozzmoo | I should be in bed. |
| 07:48.19 | fozzmoo | But I'm not. |
| 07:49.27 | Lakshmi | yeah same here |
| 07:49.33 | Lakshmi | i got like an hour of sleep last night |
| 07:49.36 | Lakshmi | but i cant sleep now |
| 07:49.45 | Lakshmi | which sucks |
| 07:52.49 | Sargun | fozzmoo, |
| 07:53.16 | fozzmoo | My dad e-mailed me this: http://www.holdman.com/christmas/video.asp |
| 07:53.20 | brac | [Holdman Christmas] |
| 07:59.12 | Lakshmi | journey is a very interesting band |
| 08:11.44 | fozzmoo | Journey was an interesting band. :) |
| 08:13.25 | Lakshmi | i knoe it was |
| 08:13.29 | Lakshmi | but it still is |
| 08:29.09 | Supaplex | helloOOooOoo there |
| 08:35.07 | Sargun | hi Supaplex |
| 08:36.22 | Supaplex | hey :) so what are you up to? |
| 08:39.02 | Lakshmi | hey ya'll |
| 09:05.15 | fozzmoo | THANK YOU JOHN DIGWEED AND SASHA! |
| 09:12.34 | fozzmoo | WAHOO! |
| 09:13.06 | fozzmoo | Supaplex: I'm having much success in my writing my own version of WWW::Mechanize for my specific need. |
| 09:23.09 | Sargun | fozzmoo, Why do you need to write you own? |
| 09:23.53 | fozzmoo | The application I'm working on is like a proxy - going between the user and another web application. |
| 09:24.39 | fozzmoo | The application reads a form on the remote server, processes it, and sends it to the user. Then, takes the user's input, processes it, and sends it to the remote server, capturing stuff along the way as needed. |
| 09:25.23 | fozzmoo | I've got to develop this thing to eventually run on a Windows/IIS box, so I can't take advantage of persistent objects and what-not I would normally have in mod_perl. |
| 09:25.50 | Lakshmi | hi sargun |
| 09:26.00 | fozzmoo | Because of that, I have to instantiate a new WWW::Mechanize object with every request from the user. |
| 09:26.29 | fozzmoo | That makes it difficult and inefficient to go through the forms in a stateful fashion. |
| 09:26.59 | fozzmoo | So, I stepped back and wrote my own code using LWP::UserAgent and cached the content for each form page in the session object (which gets stored to a file). |
| 09:27.31 | fozzmoo | Then, when the user submits the form, it uses the cached page content to prepare the form for posting to the remote server. |
| 09:31.36 | Sargun | Ah. |
| 09:32.22 | fozzmoo | It would have been great to have some sort of $mech->save_state() option. |
| 09:39.02 | Supaplex | fozzmoo: why not freeze the object and save it on disk? maybe tie it into a session id |
| 09:39.16 | Supaplex | I throw frozen objects into the database all the time |
| 09:39.40 | fozzmoo | Supaplex: Didn't work so well. |
| 09:40.01 | fozzmoo | I think because WWW::Mechanize subclasses... so much. |
| 09:40.10 | Supaplex | humm |
| 09:40.31 | fozzmoo | What's important, tho, is that it's working now. :) |
| 09:40.42 | Supaplex | set it up as a daemon, and have something tag your daemon for requests? |
| 09:41.23 | fozzmoo | Yeah- I considered that too, Jayce^ recommended playing with Gearman. |
| 09:41.39 | Supaplex | gearman is new to me |
| 09:41.41 | fozzmoo | But, again, going on a Windows server. Didn't want to push my luck. |
| 09:41.56 | fozzmoo | Supaplex: It was new to me too. I only read a little about it. Looks cool. |
| 09:42.12 | Supaplex | is it really 2:30am? |
| 09:42.23 | fozzmoo | In MST, yeah. 2:42 |
| 09:42.28 | fozzmoo | What are you doing? |
| 09:42.29 | Supaplex | that explains the dain brammage pains I'm feeling. |
| 09:42.42 | Supaplex | scouting supply chains out of ebay sellers |
| 09:46.13 | Supaplex | let's just say I have some 30 tabs open in FF. :P |
| 09:48.04 | fozzmoo | :) |
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| 15:20.51 | goozbach | ~seen redbeard |
| 15:20.54 | ibot | redbeard <i=redbeard@redbeard.dsl.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 796d 10h 26m 2s ago, saying: 'along with /dev/hdd (yes the CDROM drive is still in the machine)'. |
| 15:21.12 | goozbach | ~seen redbeard1 |
| 15:21.13 | ibot | redbeard1 <n=route@63-148-163-200.dia.static.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 78d 19h 48m 50s ago, saying: 'Supaplex: sicko'. |
| 15:21.17 | goozbach | ~seen redbeard2 |
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| 16:26.35 | vontrapp_ | how do i know how much power i need from a power supply? |
| 16:27.23 | vontrapp | my mobo manual doesn't tell me |
| 16:27.30 | vontrapp | it just says "appropriate power supply" |
| 16:30.26 | herlo | vontrapp: power needs are 2 fold these days. There is a 5V rail and a 12V rail IIRC |
| 16:30.45 | herlo | the 12V rail is usually for hard drives and devices with constant power |
| 16:31.08 | herlo | the 5V one is for turning on the mobo and occasional power services |
| 16:31.21 | herlo | the 12V rail can handle power spikes a bit better... |
| 16:32.13 | vontrapp | but what wattage power supply do i need? 300W? 500? |
| 16:32.23 | herlo | vontrapp: depends on what you are using it for... |
| 16:32.40 | herlo | most hard drives indicate their power wattage usage right on the drive... |
| 16:32.50 | vontrapp | a media center, one drive, ide now, sata later, dual core proc, simple video card for tv out |
| 16:32.53 | vontrapp | that's about it |
| 16:32.53 | herlo | as far as the mobo, I'm not sure... |
| 16:33.12 | herlo | a 350W would be plenty, you probably can't buy much less than that these days |
| 16:33.33 | herlo | if you plan to expand to more drives, go with something bigger |
| 16:33.35 | vontrapp | well, i did find a 300 at byu's repair center |
| 16:34.22 | vontrapp | what about an optical drive or two? |
| 16:34.24 | vontrapp | probably just one |
| 16:34.41 | herlo | yeah, I think that's fine |
| 16:34.52 | vontrapp | so 300-350... cool |
| 16:34.59 | herlo | hehe |
| 16:35.01 | vontrapp | i will come after you |
| 16:35.02 | herlo | yeah, should be fine |
| 16:35.26 | herlo | good luck |
| 16:35.39 | vontrapp | ooh, upgrades |
| 16:36.57 | vontrapp | that was a boring upgrade |
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| 16:58.42 | Supaplex | ~upgrade vontrapp |
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| 17:55.19 | elg | ok, this vw vanagon doesn't want to start |
| 17:55.24 | elg | kachug kachug kachug |
| 17:55.42 | elg | If it wasn't the battery originally, I think it is part of the problem now. |
| 17:55.45 | elg | -weather kvel |
| 17:55.46 | brac | 1 hours, 3 minutes ago, on Sat Dec 22 16:53:00 UTC 2007, the wind was calm at KVEL. The temperature was -12.8 degrees Celsius (9.0 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1028 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 72.5%. There were a few clouds at a height of 2743 meters (9000 feet). |
| 17:56.10 | elg | so my question, if I have jumper cables hooked up should I be able to start the car no matter the state of the battery? |
| 17:56.16 | elg | or do I have to wait for it to charge |
| 17:56.31 | elg | it's been hooked up and failing to start for an hour now |
| 17:56.38 | elg | (I've been trying to start it every 15 minutes or so) |
| 18:03.05 | Supaplex | elg: depends on how dead/junk the battery is. I had a battery with an open short short, and I wasn't able to jump it |
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| 18:08.07 | elg | well this battery was apparently working fine until we took it out here to vernal where it's below 0 F |
| 18:16.16 | nick125 | Hmmmmm.....I'm debating if I should take my old desktop and set it up in my room as a MythTV box then use it to watch stuff in my room and so on |
| 18:17.07 | Supaplex | as long as you share with us, that's ok |
| 18:17.10 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 18:17.45 | nick125 | I was thinking of using LinuxMCE, the only thing is that I don't want something that's impossible to use with my laptop. |
| 18:24.07 | nick125 | I mean, it looks cool but what good is it if I can only use it with LinuxMCE boxes? |
| 18:40.27 | goozbach | elg: find a big shop light |
| 18:40.37 | goozbach | the ones which put off a lot of heat |
| 18:40.52 | goozbach | place it under the car which won't start, and let it sit for an hour or so |
| 18:40.55 | goozbach | then try again |
| 18:41.03 | elg | goozbach: we've had a space heater in there |
| 18:41.09 | goozbach | or that |
| 18:41.24 | elg | the metal on the engine is not too cold. I can keep my hand on it for as long as I like |
| 18:41.51 | goozbach | how's the battery |
| 18:41.55 | elg | I did have a bad connection |
| 18:42.01 | goozbach | warming the battery could help |
| 18:42.03 | elg | now it's cranking good but still won't start |
| 18:42.05 | elg | did that too |
| 18:42.14 | elg | I think it might be flooded |
| 18:42.16 | goozbach | is it a sealed battery? |
| 18:42.26 | goozbach | does the tailpipe smell like gasoline? |
| 18:42.35 | elg | i'll go smell it :) |
| 18:43.09 | goozbach | is this a carborated vehicle, or a fuel injection? |
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| 18:47.58 | linuxalien | Hi guys |
| 19:05.17 | elg | carbeurated |
| 19:05.28 | elg | i smell a bit of gas. not overwhelming but I think it is flooded |
| 19:31.29 | levi | Fun. |
| 19:32.42 | elg | how do you unflood an engine when it's 10 degrees out? |
| 19:33.10 | levi | Very carefully? |
| 19:33.41 | levi | I imagine you could pull the spark plugs to speed things up. |
| 19:34.07 | levi | Wet plugs would also give you a definitive 'flooded' diagnosis. |
| 19:42.44 | elg | you have a vw van don't you? |
| 19:45.09 | levi | Yes, but it's a considerably different beast. |
| 19:46.15 | elg | well, this is a vw van |
| 19:46.29 | elg | or is yours special? |
| 19:46.49 | levi | Mine is a Eurovan, the one you're working with is a Vanagon. |
| 19:47.16 | elg | oh |
| 19:48.14 | levi | The Vanagon used a VW engine in the tail end, in classic VW style. The Eurovan uses an Audi engine up front like a typical van. |
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| 20:01.24 | elg | different beast then for sure |
| 20:01.40 | elg | well, when my dad gets here soonish hopefully he has a spark plug wrench |
| 20:46.51 | Lakshmi | hey all |
| 20:46.52 | Lakshmi | ! |
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| 22:42.19 | nick125 | Anyone here use linuxMCE? |
| 22:42.41 | Supaplex | is that some distro? |
| 22:42.45 | nick125 | yeah |
| 22:42.57 | nick125 | I'm thinking of giving it a spin on my old desktop |
| 22:43.25 | nick125 | As it's going to become my media PC |
| 22:43.41 | Supaplex | humph |
| 23:27.57 | findlay | elg: just about every socket set will have a spark plug socket or two |
| 23:29.43 | findlay | another thing to check is whether you're getting ignition |
| 23:57.58 | Supaplex | I have a similar problem. my car is misfiring, and I've checked the sparkplug wires. I'm not getting any shorts when I mist them down with water |
| 23:58.41 | Supaplex | but it only misfires when I need power. it's not frequent enough while idle to check much ... |
| 23:59.56 | peno | cap+rotor, or plugged fuel filter could be culprits |