| 00:00.11 | tensai | the proposal is for a max distance of 10km. I don't think copper could do that. |
| 00:00.18 | findlay | even with multiple pairs? |
| 00:00.54 | findlay | fozzmoo: but who needs 10Gb? Copper's good enough for the next 100 years |
| 00:01.04 | tensai | findlay: I suppose you could cluster ISDN lines and achieve a 10gbps, but I doubt the costs would be worth it |
| 00:02.22 | tensai | you'd only need 80k ISDN lines after all |
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| 00:03.32 | fozzmoo | ~kiss ti`ocpi |
| 00:03.33 | ibot | ACTION forces ti`ocpi to give findlay a big kiss on the hand |
| 00:03.35 | findlay | just supplement the extra BW needs with a fiber strand :) |
| 00:03.40 | findlay | ugh |
| 00:03.47 | fozzmoo | hee hee |
| 00:04.04 | findlay | :) |
| 00:04.08 | findlay | silly bot |
| 00:07.14 | fozzmoo | Wow. http://www.utahsright.com/ |
| 00:07.19 | brac | [Utah's Right To Know | UtahsRight.com] |
| 00:07.29 | fozzmoo | Top salary at USU: womens basketball coach. |
| 00:07.49 | findlay | yay |
| 00:08.16 | findlay | besides, I've got my own saliva problems |
| 00:09.14 | findlay | salivary and mucous |
| 00:09.22 | findlay | in my upper respiratory tract |
| 00:11.41 | levi | Hmm, I had no idea being a principal at a school paid so well. |
| 00:12.09 | findlay | about the only decently paid position in public education in Utah |
| 00:12.31 | levi | Well, there are a couple of American Fork High teachers in the high $90k range. |
| 00:14.05 | levi | There are a bunch in the $80k range. |
| 00:31.27 | levi | This is an interesting conference report on commercial uses of functional programming: http://cufp.galois.com/CUFP-2007-Report.pdf |
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| 05:02.44 | Sargun | What would be cooler: visual traceroute or a visual map of all the hosts connected to you? |
| 05:02.55 | brac | [~ |
| 05:02.58 | brac | ~say You will always have good luck in your personal affairs. |
| 05:02.59 | ibot | You will always have good luck in your personal affairs. |
| 05:02.59 | brac | ~] |
| 05:03.06 | Sargun | yay! |
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| 05:23.09 | levi | Yo. |
| 05:42.48 | sontek | Supaplex: ping! |
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| 07:45.46 | findlay | .oY |
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| 08:22.46 | findlay | Sargun: haven't you seen xtraceroute? |
| 08:23.42 | findlay | it already does that. so it remains to you to implement the other thing so that the world doesn't have to choose but have both coolnesses |
| 08:23.52 | Sargun | Hi |
| 08:24.01 | findlay | hello |
| 08:24.03 | Sargun | findlay, I mean a web app. |
| 08:24.08 | findlay | oh |
| 08:24.29 | findlay | well, how hard is it to do one when you already did the other? |
| 08:27.59 | findlay | ~django Sargun |
| 08:28.29 | Sargun | haha |
| 08:32.01 | findlay | you know django is the one, true web platform |
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| 14:28.53 | ^Migs^ | is there an algorithm which automatically determines if a point on a graph lies within another set of points on a graph, even if the other set of points is really complex and not any pretty shape? |
| 14:29.24 | ^Migs^ | for example, determining if someone's address lies within certain boundaries on a latitude-longitude map |
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| 14:36.14 | ^Migs^ | maybe this is impractical, since the "other set of points" numbers about 1000 |
| 14:36.35 | ^Migs^ | and I'd be using Google Maps with this. Finding one point in 1000 points, with the load shifted mostly to the client in a web browser, doesn't seem like a good idea |
| 14:37.17 | ^Migs^ | well, could make this particular piece of it server-side, I guess |
| 14:37.20 | ^Migs^ | </ramble> |
| 14:52.20 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | I ♥ UTF-8 ☺ | Welcome elg to the great white north |
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| 15:08.57 | tensai | ^Migs^: there are algorithms for such things. think of what happens when to bucket fill an area in a paint program. |
| 15:25.31 | ^Migs^ | you're right. Any idea what it's called though? |
| 15:26.01 | ^Migs^ | I'll have to look around, nm |
| 15:26.39 | ^Migs^ | I hadn't made the connection to the paint bucket. That should be a good place to start. :) |
| 15:31.40 | elg | tensai: so i took a look at that crazy modem last night |
| 15:32.05 | tensai | elg: and was it crazy? |
| 15:32.07 | elg | it's working again. they swear it's the same setup that they tried a dozen times, and that it just started working after 3 days since the last time they touched it. so newegg is sending a replacement |
| 15:32.30 | elg | it's set up with 0/32 and in bridging mode (not pppoa) |
| 15:32.38 | elg | afaict there's no authentication happening at all |
| 15:32.56 | tensai | yeah there wouldn't be in bridging mode |
| 15:33.21 | elg | right, unless there were pppoe happening on the pc or something, but there ain't |
| 15:34.19 | elg | so I'm not gonna touch it until the new one comes |
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| 15:34.44 | elg | but, when it does, how would I set it up so that the router gets the static IP instead of bridging? |
| 15:34.56 | elg | is that IPoA? |
| 15:35.26 | tensai | the way we do it, which might be different than mstar, is pppoa |
| 15:36.28 | elg | yeah, I don't think that works |
| 15:37.57 | tensai | maybe *you* don't work |
| 15:39.09 | elg | oh I know I don't ;) |
| 15:39.45 | elg | if I worked, I wouldn't be spending 2.5 weeks in utah |
| 15:53.22 | ^Migs^ | I don't even know why you left Utah |
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| 16:04.06 | ^Migs^ | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN1319327520071213 |
| 16:04.13 | ^Migs^ | LONDON (Reuters) - The government said Wednesday it would ban the sale of samurai swords because the weapons had been used in a number of serious, high-profile attacks. |
| 16:04.17 | ^Migs^ | However collectors of genuine Japanese swords and those used by martial arts enthusiasts would be exempt from the ban. |
| 16:04.38 | ^Migs^ | right, because your average wakizashi, rapier, or cutlass is less "swordy" than a katana |
| 16:05.56 | ^Migs^ | "In unrelated news, machete sales have increased 10%." |
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| 16:14.02 | goozbach | fungus: is that ipv6? |
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| 16:14.06 | goozbach | nice! |
| 16:16.57 | fungus | yes it is. |
| 16:17.11 | fungus | not native, just tunneled though |
| 16:17.18 | fungus | http://go6.net/ |
| 16:17.19 | brac | [go6 | IPv6 community] |
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| 16:31.32 | elg | so what does it take to set up a tunnel? |
| 16:33.47 | fungus | using go6. sign-up, install their tunnel creating scripts, and run them. |
| 16:33.48 | Shadowwire | Whats your favorite website? |
| 16:33.57 | elg | mine |
| 16:34.38 | Shadowwire | ? |
| 16:35.16 | Shadowwire | I need to come up with something for our home page. |
| 16:35.24 | Shadowwire | plumbersstock.com |
| 16:35.36 | Shadowwire | any Idias? |
| 16:36.56 | fungus | If you want to manage tunnels yourself, and have some more advanced features. http://tunnelbroker.net (Hurricane Electric) is where it's at. |
| 16:37.00 | brac | [Hurricane Electric IPv6 Tunnel Broker] |
| 16:39.09 | ^Migs^ | elg, my boss wants to set up a makeshift sound studio for his wife, who has a normal baby grand piano, sitting in a normal family room setting. What sort of equipment would she need? I was thinking a microphone and digital mixer, but I don't know anything about that stuff. What sort of microphone should I look for? |
| 16:39.46 | elg | an expensive one |
| 16:39.58 | ^Migs^ | any particular recommendations offhand? |
| 16:40.04 | elg | nope. I know nothing about mics |
| 16:40.06 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 16:40.10 | ^Migs^ | know anything about mixers? |
| 16:40.12 | elg | i don't have the money to know about mics :) |
| 16:40.17 | ^Migs^ | hehe, me neither |
| 16:40.34 | elg | if you get a good soundcard and linux PC you can have a good digital audio workstation |
| 16:40.50 | elg | using Ardour |
| 16:41.13 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 16:41.19 | elg | good soundcard can mean a 24-bit card or it can mean a professional-quality card |
| 16:41.30 | elg | depending on how much cash you're talking about |
| 16:41.50 | ^Migs^ | I'm thinking a budget of up to $2000 |
| 16:41.56 | elg | a baby grand in a family room doesn't have the kind of acoustics you need to warrant spending gobs of moeny on it though |
| 16:42.03 | ^Migs^ | that's what I'm afraid of |
| 16:42.50 | elg | so my stab in the dark is a 24 bit card with good linux support, a decent microphone and stand, whatever adapters and/or amps you need to get a good mic signal into the computer |
| 16:42.56 | elg | and a computer of course |
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| 16:43.25 | ^Migs^ | okay, I'll let him know, thanks! |
| 16:43.36 | tensai | that reminds me of something I saw the other day |
| 16:44.14 | tensai | I was watching the three tenors at a christmas concert. each of them had two microphones set one above the other. |
| 16:44.38 | ^Migs^ | I bet I could come up with some pretty good acoustic results with two mics |
| 16:45.01 | ^Migs^ | maybe a floor mic and a front mic or something |
| 16:45.12 | tensai | turns out you get different sounds in different locations, so having two mics gives you a richer recording |
| 16:45.21 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 16:46.35 | tensai | with two mics you'll need a mixer or two soundcards. or both. the conversation between rsimpkinds and fozzmoo yesterday would probably be of interest to you. |
| 16:46.52 | elg | or a soundcard with more than one input |
| 16:46.55 | ^Migs^ | when was this conversation? |
| 16:47.07 | ^Migs^ | probably after I left. The one time I didn't idle in the channel overnight. |
| 16:47.24 | elg | http://plug.org/irc |
| 16:47.26 | ^Migs^ | well, I was going to recommend a mixer, for one, just because of sound manipulation you can do with it |
| 16:47.35 | ^Migs^ | ah thanks |
| 16:48.27 | tensai | ^Migs^: about noon yesterday |
| 16:49.10 | ^Migs^ | I'm seeing it around 6pm |
| 16:49.19 | tensai | the logs are in GMT :) |
| 16:49.27 | ^Migs^ | oh right |
| 16:49.36 | ^Migs^ | l4m3 |
| 16:50.43 | goozbach | Shadowwire: how about a tagline "Connecting the internet's pipes to our pipes"? |
| 16:52.55 | elg | for linux-compatible pro audio cards, I think I remember hearing rme hammerfall is a good choice |
| 16:54.00 | elg | assuming you have a decent pc handy, you get more bang for buck than buying a hardware mixer, etc. |
| 16:54.33 | elg | but your ADC is definitely a weak spot, both in the form of the mic (sound to analog) and the sound card (analog to digital) |
| 17:03.03 | findlay | rsimpkins and fozzmoo had a conversation and I didn't get to read every/any word of it?! |
| 17:03.51 | Shadowwire | goozbach: thats pretty good! |
| 17:04.00 | fozzmoo | Yeah, it was all like... woah, and I was like yeah, and he was like oh really? and I was like sure, dude. and he was like Man! |
| 17:04.55 | findlay | nice |
| 17:09.00 | ^Migs^ | this is funny. I just got this error: http://www.justinreeve.com/stuff4u/lilypond.gif |
| 17:09.26 | ^Migs^ | those crazy unregistered web files |
| 17:09.52 | ^Migs^ | does anyone else get that when they try to go to lilypond.org? |
| 17:21.11 | tensai | ^Migs^: sorry, Works For Me™ |
| 17:21.28 | ^Migs^ | it works for me fine in FF |
| 17:21.31 | ^Migs^ | so nm, I guess |
| 17:34.55 | Shadowwire | works for me too. |
| 17:35.07 | Shadowwire | IE7 |
| 17:35.52 | jsmith | Works for me... FF in Linux on PPC hardware |
| 17:39.41 | ^Migs^ | was using IE6 |
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| 17:41.00 | sjansen | http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/12/time_nist?currentPage=all |
| 17:41.37 | sjansen | What's elg doing in Logan? |
| 17:50.44 | redbeard2 | sjansen: where are you? |
| 17:50.58 | elg | not quite that great |
| 17:51.53 | redbeard2 | elg: when did mt timp move to logan? |
| 17:57.00 | tensai | sjansen: the wireless radio we use have gps receivers for their timing. they schedule packet timeslots based on it. works great. |
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| 17:57.17 | goozbach | fozz!!!! |
| 17:58.15 | fozzmoo | meow |
| 17:58.47 | sjansen | icanhasheezfozz? |
| 18:12.33 | findlay | the BBC seems to be really pushing the OLPC |
| 18:13.49 | sontek | you should buy an eepc to spite them |
| 18:17.21 | Jayce^ | no sontek, you should buy us eepc's to spite them |
| 18:17.59 | sontek | Jayce^: you are the rich one with all your paintball winnings! |
| 18:19.16 | sjansen | ~paint sontek |
| 18:19.17 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on sontek |
| 18:19.36 | sontek | ~duel sjansen |
| 18:19.45 | sontek | :( someone needs to make that one |
| 18:20.56 | goozbach | ~duel $sjansen is <action> takes off his glove, and striding purposfully up to $sjansen slaps $sjansen across the face with it. |
| 18:20.57 | ibot | EXTRA EXTRA!! goozbach challenges $sjansen to a duel for is <action> takes off his glove, and striding purposfully up to $sjansen slaps $sjansen across the face with it.!! Everyone gather round to see who wins! |
| 18:21.00 | findlay | ~make that one |
| 18:21.01 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `that one'. Stop. |
| 18:21.14 | goozbach | doh, someone else beat me to it |
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| 18:21.22 | elg | -metar kpvu |
| 18:21.23 | brac | KPVU 131750Z VRB04KT 15SM FEW050 SCT150 M04/M11 A3021 |
| 18:21.29 | findlay | ~challenge jsmith |
| 18:21.33 | goozbach | ~duel pineapple |
| 18:21.46 | findlay | ~duel |
| 18:21.47 | ibot | ACTION slaps cbrown across the face with a heavy pair of gloves and quicky hands them to findlay |
| 18:22.03 | findlay | ~literal cmd: duel (.?) |
| 18:22.07 | findlay | ~literal cmd: duel (.*?) |
| 18:22.28 | findlay | ~literally tell me what ~duel does |
| 18:23.18 | findlay | What message? The one you've just been playing. The one you're carrying in your busty innards |
| 18:24.10 | sjansen | ~duet findlay |
| 18:24.10 | ibot | ACTION hands sporks to sjansen and findlay then sit back to watch them fight to the death |
| 18:25.12 | Shadowwire | duet? |
| 18:25.27 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 18:25.27 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:26.00 | Shadowwire | why a spoon? Because it will hurt more, you twit! |
| 18:29.48 | sontek | -roulette |
| 18:29.49 | brac | sontek: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:30.01 | sontek | bring it on! |
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| 18:36.10 | fungus | -roulette |
| 18:36.11 | brac | fungus: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 18:37.28 | goozbach | ~duel fungus for being a fungi |
| 18:37.29 | ibot | EXTRA EXTRA!! goozbach challenges fungus to a duel for for being a fungi!! Everyone gather round to see who wins! |
| 18:37.51 | goozbach | it's a built in command apparently |
| 18:38.01 | goozbach | it understands two varibiles |
| 18:38.05 | goozbach | ~help duel |
| 18:38.14 | fungus | ~duel goozbach for not being a "fun guy" |
| 18:38.15 | ibot | EXTRA EXTRA!! fungus challenges goozbach to a duel for for not being a "fun guy"!! Everyone gather round to see who wins! |
| 18:38.39 | goozbach | I nominate Jayce^ as my second |
| 18:39.01 | goozbach | he's pretty handy with a gun |
| 18:39.18 | Shadowwire | That wasnt nice. |
| 18:40.16 | goozbach | how unsportsmanlike *dies* |
| 18:41.36 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 18:41.36 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:41.51 | Shadowwire | -help |
| 18:41.52 | brac | help topics: core, auth [53 plugins: 8ball, autoop, autorejoin, bans, bash, cal, chucknorris, deepthought, demauro, dice, digg, dns, excuse, figlet, forecast, fortune, freshmeat, host, imdb, insult, iplookup|userip, karmastats|karma, keyword|forget|tell, lart, lastfm, markov|chat, math, movieplot|movietitle, nickserv, opme, qauth, quotes, realm, remind, roshambo, rot13, roulette, |
| 18:41.53 | brac | rps, rss, rubyurl, search|google, seen, slashdot, spell, threat, tinyurl, topic, translate, tube, urban, urls, weather|metar, wserver; 13 plugins ignored: use help ignored plugins to see why] (help <topic> for more info) |
| 18:42.01 | Shadowwire | -core |
| 18:44.29 | elg | tensai: so it looks like the executive decider for flightgear decided 1.0 |
| 18:44.35 | elg | at least it's not 0.9.12 |
| 18:44.44 | elg | but I really really don't think they're ready to call it 1.0 |
| 18:44.58 | tensai | I guess that's what 1.0.1 is for |
| 18:45.24 | elg | you can release 1.0 near the beginning and get away with lots of problems |
| 18:45.36 | elg | you can't release 1.0 ten years in unless it's really GOOD |
| 18:45.50 | elg | at least, that the implemented features and menus do what they should |
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| 18:47.02 | findlay | ~literal cmd: duel (.*?) (.*?) |
| 18:47.03 | ibot | "cmd: duel (.*?) (.*?)" is "($1,$2): <reply> EXTRA EXTRA!! $who challenges $1 to a duel for $2!! Everyone gather round to see who wins!" |
| 18:47.56 | tensai | findlay: your literal-fu is impressive |
| 18:48.08 | findlay | tensai: I learned it from the best |
| 18:48.10 | findlay | :) |
| 18:49.00 | findlay | ~dual |
| 18:49.02 | ibot | ACTION clones findlay, to the horror of everyone else on the channel |
| 18:49.07 | findlay | yay |
| 18:49.22 | Shadowwire | AAHHH!! Its Horible! |
| 18:49.30 | findlay | ~dule |
| 18:49.40 | tensai | findlay: just two more clones and you have a full string quartet, all by yourselves |
| 18:49.43 | tensai | ~dool |
| 18:49.55 | goozbach | -factinfo cmd: duel (.*?) (.*?) |
| 18:50.00 | goozbach | ~factinfo cmd: duel (.*?) (.*?) |
| 18:50.00 | ibot | cmd: duel (.*?) (.*?) -- created by SportChick <n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net> at Thu Feb 23 16:27:56 2006 (658 days); it has been requested 57 times, last by fungus, 11m 45s ago. |
| 18:50.37 | goozbach | ~SportChick |
| 18:50.38 | ibot | rumour has it, sportchick is a fast-typing, mistake making, fun-loving, koolaid-drinking chick who makes a terrific op |
| 18:50.42 | goozbach | ~seen SportChick |
| 18:51.47 | ibot | sportchick is currently on ##t42 (2d 5h 13m 44s) #bzflag (2d 5h 13m 44s) #debian (2d 5h 13m 44s) #kierra (2d 5h 13m 44s) #pillbox (2d 5h 13m 44s) # (2d 5h 13m 44s) ##ducleague (2d 5h 13m 44s) #silvercat (2d 5h 13m 44s) ##bz-inc (2d 5h 13m 44s) ##guleague (2d 5h 13m 44s) #wowwiki (2d ... |
| 18:51.48 | findlay | SportChick's a bzflagger |
| 18:51.50 | findlay | way better than me, although I have never had a propensity for computer games |
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| 18:52.29 | Shadowwire | Hey, How do you get ibot to greet you as you enter the room? |
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| 18:52.54 | findlay | ~onjoin Shadowwire Shadowwire: connecting our pipes to yours. |
| 18:52.55 | ibot | ok, findlay |
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| 18:53.14 | Shadowwire | Yay! |
| 18:53.19 | dataw0lf | SportChick? |
| 18:53.23 | dataw0lf | she's freenode staff too |
| 18:53.45 | bonez44 | is it possible to create an icon to an oft-accessed or oft-printed file, by dragging and dropping onto desktop? |
| 18:55.21 | bonez44 | I believe that works in windows and have to assume it works and even better in linux.... |
| 18:55.32 | vontrapp | who knows intimate details of ruby block/closures/anonymous things? |
| 18:55.36 | Shadowwire | Fair enuph. |
| 18:57.04 | vontrapp | specifically, how to change the binding environment of a block |
| 18:57.17 | vontrapp | i found one way, instance_eval &block |
| 18:57.34 | vontrapp | but that doens't allow for arguments, as far as i can figgur |
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| 19:20.28 | Tene | binding environment? |
| 19:20.40 | Tene | what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 19:20.46 | Shadowwire | Blinding environment? |
| 19:21.21 | vontrapp | Tene: crazy cool metaprogramming stuff |
| 19:21.36 | vontrapp | specifically a better implementation of method missing |
| 19:21.45 | vontrapp | s/implementation/usage/ |
| 19:22.14 | vontrapp | the block is born in a class method |
| 19:22.27 | levi | So you want to screw around with the variable bindings in the closure? |
| 19:22.33 | vontrapp | but when it's invoked it needs to be as if in an instance method |
| 19:22.33 | Tene | "method missing"? |
| 19:22.39 | vontrapp | yep |
| 19:22.44 | vontrapp | to both ya |
| 19:23.03 | levi | Sounds vaguely evil, but the sort of thing you might expect to be able to do in Ruby. :) |
| 19:23.20 | vontrapp | there already is a way, but insufficient |
| 19:23.31 | vontrapp | obj.instance_eval(&block) |
| 19:23.46 | findlay | gah, closures and binding environments. Just let me play in the sandbox with pointers and arrays where it's safe |
| 19:23.46 | vontrapp | only problem is you don't get to pass arguments |
| 19:23.59 | levi | So you want 'this' to be bound. |
| 19:24.35 | levi | Or 'self' or whatever. |
| 19:24.38 | vontrapp | yeah |
| 19:25.36 | vontrapp | currently, having self bound to the class object is counter productive |
| 19:26.25 | findlay | producing of the class object counter? |
| 19:26.47 | vontrapp | wha? |
| 19:26.53 | findlay | :-) |
| 19:27.15 | findlay | why do you guys tolerate so much of my nonsense? |
| 19:27.35 | vontrapp | ~chat about findlay sense |
| 19:27.57 | findlay | but don't worry, it'll pass soon, I'm sure |
| 19:27.57 | vontrapp | -chat about findlay sense even |
| 19:27.57 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 19:27.57 | levi | findlay: Do we have a choice? ;) |
| 19:27.57 | vontrapp | -chat about findlay sense |
| 19:27.59 | brac | findlay sense |
| 19:28.40 | vontrapp | class object counters are so c++ |
| 19:28.59 | levi | vontrapp: He's playing off of 'counter productive' |
| 19:29.24 | vontrapp | i'm playing off of his pointer love |
| 19:29.55 | findlay | I was being ironic then too :/ |
| 19:30.04 | vontrapp | ~iron findlay |
| 19:30.52 | vontrapp | but yeah, word on the street is ruby 1.9 will have what i need |
| 19:33.39 | Tene | vontrapp: You can do it right now with perl ;) |
| 19:33.42 | Tene | Moose++ |
| 19:33.52 | findlay | heh |
| 19:35.17 | Tene | http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=655803 |
| 19:35.29 | Tene | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.48 | vontrapp | heh, you can do nothing like it in perl |
| 19:39.17 | goozbach | I want a gallery management tool for my website, any suggestions? |
| 19:39.32 | goozbach | I'm not happy with Gallery2 (it's php, I don't have PHP installed) |
| 19:39.44 | goozbach | I can't get Apache::Gallery to run on apache 2.2 |
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| 19:42.44 | vontrapp | goozbach: foton.fugal.net |
| 19:42.53 | vontrapp | hans would be happy to share it |
| 19:43.19 | Jayce^ | goozbach, ? it's on mine |
| 19:44.22 | vontrapp | he was fed up with gallery too |
| 19:44.26 | vontrapp | pun intended |
| 19:45.42 | goozbach | Jayce^: are you running apache 2.2 |
| 19:45.43 | Jayce^ | goozbach, what's your AG problem? |
| 19:45.43 | goozbach | ? |
| 19:45.45 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 19:45.47 | goozbach | hmm |
| 19:46.00 | goozbach | how did you install it? |
| 19:46.25 | goozbach | I'm getting problems with Scalar::Util not being a "xs" version during the install |
| 19:46.32 | goozbach | of some of the prereqs |
| 19:47.09 | Jayce^ | if you're on debian, there is a dpkg for it.. |
| 19:47.19 | Jayce^ | I remember there being rpms.. |
| 19:48.00 | goozbach | looks like I was missing mod_perl-devel |
| 19:55.46 | goozbach | now I'm seeing "mod_perl.pm not found" ??? wiskey tango foxtrot |
| 19:55.48 | goozbach | grr! |
| 19:58.55 | goozbach | Jayce^: did you have to change Apache::Gallery to use mod_perl2? |
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| 20:00.22 | tensai | fungus: are you running the tunnel on your local box or on a router? |
| 20:01.07 | bbeattie | Does anyone have comcast, OTA TV reception, utopia, and live in Utah valley? |
| 20:03.44 | jsmith | bbeattie: What if I answered no, no, no, and no? |
| 20:04.01 | fungus | Just a tunnel on my local box. |
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| 20:04.52 | tensai | go6 apparently has an openwrt client that I might just try out |
| 20:05.34 | tensai | I've got ipv6 running on my lan OK but it stops at my router |
| 20:06.09 | bbeattie | jsmith: Not much. :) |
| 20:08.25 | bbeattie | jsmith: I can't get any of those either but I need OTA TV or cable for some work I'm doing so I need to find someone who would be willing to keep a system at their place and set up some wireless redline equipment (90Mb+). I'd be glad to give them a HD antenna, pay for utopia, and help them get their own myth box up in return for hosting a box. |
| 20:09.01 | findlay | bbeattie: I have iProvo if that might help |
| 20:09.39 | bbeattie | what speed is that? I have DSL now and would like to just have one internet uplink so it might as well be over the wireless equipment too. |
| 20:09.48 | fungus | tensai: that's probably your best bet. |
| 20:10.49 | bbeattie | (it's actually digis, not dsl but dsl speed) |
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| 20:12.19 | findlay | bbeattie: I have 14 Mib up and down |
| 20:12.37 | findlay | if you were asking me, that is |
| 20:12.41 | bbeattie | wha's utopia? .. and which is likely to not go bankrupt first? :) |
| 20:12.56 | levi | This is interesting: http://technically.us/code/x/the-awesomeness-of-scala-is-implicit |
| 20:13.11 | findlay | still on a scala fix, levi? :) |
| 20:13.23 | goozbach | Jayce^: the problem was it was looking for mod_perl v1 |
| 20:13.29 | goozbach | the fix: export MOD_PERL_API_VERSION=2 |
| 20:13.35 | levi | findlay: I switch around occasionally. Keeps things interesting. :) |
| 20:13.37 | goozbach | and cpan finished swimmingly |
| 20:14.37 | bbeattie | findlay: do you have cable and can get ota TV reception, and access to put an antenna on your roof (I should not that you can also see camp williams/saratoga from it)? |
| 20:16.11 | findlay | bbeattie: there's a cable. I don't know if it's hooked up. There may be some local building line of sight obstructions to the broadcast tower, however :( |
| 20:17.13 | bbeattie | mostly LOS is best for ATSC (HD) reception. |
| 20:17.46 | findlay | hm, uhf is e [1m,100nm] |
| 20:17.51 | Jayce^ | hrm bbeattie I'm on digis too, but might get better reception than you.. |
| 20:17.56 | findlay | s/n/m/ |
| 20:18.17 | bbeattie | jayce^: I can't get over 1200mb/s down and 400mb/s now, atleast for the last month. |
| 20:18.18 | findlay | bbeattie: so let's check those things too. Now what? |
| 20:18.46 | bbeattie | findlay: go to antennaweb.org and see what it says about digital reception for your address |
| 20:19.55 | bbeattie | jayce^: I think they've over sold the bandwidth lately. They've also put a huge bandwidth limiter if you download over 500MB in a day, so if you ever download an ISO just plan on your internet being unreliable the rest of the day. |
| 20:20.35 | bbeattie | jayce^: they've told me I have perfect signal/communication so they're not sure why. I've also switched routers myself so I know it's not me. :) |
| 20:21.18 | levi | This is awesome. I need to build one: http://www.mintyamps.com/ |
| 20:21.22 | brac | [.:Minty Amps:.] |
| 20:22.39 | bbeattie | it's quiet but has some nice distortion. :) |
| 20:23.02 | findlay | bbeattie: http://jfindlay.us/Stations.aspx |
| 20:23.03 | brac | [AntennaWeb] |
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| 20:23.31 | levi | bbeattie: Well, I have a real amp if I want to play loud. |
| 20:23.45 | findlay | not sure if that's what you wanted |
| 20:24.26 | bbeattie | findlay: it is, but it's bad news, it says you can't get any digital stations,.. you're in provo right? |
| 20:24.29 | ^Migs^ | http://www.gamesolo.com/flash-game/missile-3d.html |
| 20:24.30 | brac | [Missile 3D] |
| 20:24.56 | findlay | bbeattie: yeah, but just south of the BYU plateau |
| 20:26.08 | bbeattie | oh, that's why. :( |
| 20:26.27 | bbeattie | Same problem as me. :) I have a mountain to the north blocking my OTA |
| 20:26.31 | findlay | in a squat, dumpy building |
| 20:26.40 | bbeattie | .. I'll have to post to plug and see if anyone else is interested. |
| 20:26.51 | findlay | if only I could run a cable up to the top of the laboratory building :) |
| 20:28.25 | findlay | goozbach: what idlerpg level are you? |
| 20:29.57 | goozbach | findlay: I don't know |
| 20:30.50 | findlay | guess you've moved on to more important things in your life :) |
| 20:32.13 | goozbach | looks like level 73 |
| 20:32.21 | goozbach | don't know why that wasn't running |
| 20:32.22 | goozbach | hmm |
| 20:32.38 | goozbach | I should add a nagios check to see if I'm really logged in |
| 20:32.57 | goozbach | that's HIGH level idling |
| 20:33.16 | levi | I get great OTA HD reception, but I only have DSL. |
| 20:33.39 | levi | It's reasonably fast DSL, though. |
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| 20:49.30 | levi | This is awesome: http://benfry.com/distellamap/ |
| 20:49.32 | brac | [distellamap | ben fry] |
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| 21:14.14 | nick125 | Sargun: alive? |
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| 21:24.29 | ^Migs^ | My nickname sucks. I can't believe I've stuck with it for about 12 years. |
| 21:26.54 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 21:26.54 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 21:35.02 | jsmith | -roulette |
| 21:35.02 | brac | jsmith: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 21:35.52 | findlay | ~mig29 |
| 21:36.48 | findlay | ibot: mig is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan |
| 21:36.49 | ibot | ...but mig is already something else... |
| 21:36.57 | findlay | ibot: mig is also at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan |
| 21:36.57 | ibot | okay, findlay |
| 21:37.01 | findlay | ~mig |
| 21:37.03 | ibot | mig is probably the Mach interface generator, which implements RPCs on top of Mach IPC, or at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan |
| 21:40.15 | Sargun | hi nick125 |
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| 21:45.49 | goozbach | Jayce^: thanks for helping me realize that this REALLY was possible: http://new.friocorte.com/gallery/events/wedding/self_shot/ |
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| 21:56.51 | findlay | herlo: do you still do game night? Or have you moved on to more mature activities by now? |
| 21:57.05 | Jayce^ | hey, I recognize that default theme :-p |
| 21:57.35 | tensai | findlay: they actually went the other way. now it's pillow and food fights. |
| 21:59.20 | findlay | ha |
| 21:59.44 | findlay | well, I'm really just looking for a copy of Risk 2210 that I can borrow |
| 22:00.05 | goozbach | tensai: welcome to my gallery |
| 22:00.16 | goozbach | I watched you browse the entire thing |
| 22:00.29 | tensai | goozbach: wow, so did I! |
| 22:01.13 | tensai | I don't update my gallery nearly often enough |
| 22:04.11 | findlay | ~gallery goozbach |
| 22:04.53 | findlay | sounds like a line from a Disney(R) song |
| 22:06.44 | Sargun | I have a dynamic script tag that I want to run a function when It loads, how do I do this? |
| 22:08.08 | tensai | bbeattie: what type of radios? |
| 22:13.47 | goozbach | Jayce^: ever gotten htaccess working with gallery? |
| 22:17.00 | herlo | findlay: game nights will be on again once I move to Murray, currently, they are so sporadic... |
| 22:18.34 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 22:18.46 | Jayce^ | my brothers does a simple .ht authentication |
| 22:20.18 | goozbach | hmm |
| 22:20.59 | goozbach | can you get this url? http://new.friocorte.com/gallery/family-only/ |
| 22:21.19 | herlo | I can |
| 22:21.33 | goozbach | you shouldn't |
| 22:22.14 | findlay | game spores |
| 22:22.46 | findlay | goozbach: got it too |
| 22:23.02 | findlay | herlo: do you have a copy of risk 2210? |
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| 22:27.01 | goozbach | try again |
| 22:28.23 | findlay | doesn't work with u:dude pw:dude |
| 22:29.16 | goozbach | ok cool |
| 22:29.42 | ^Migs^ | when is Spore coming out? |
| 22:30.04 | goozbach | I'm an idiot! |
| 22:30.18 | goozbach | the <directory> stanza needs an absolute path |
| 22:30.37 | Jayce^ | hehe |
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| 22:35.17 | goozbach | which is pretty sad, seeing as how my job entails running a large apache server farm |
| 22:35.31 | goozbach | and I edit httpd.conf files almost daily |
| 22:35.50 | Jayce^ | shows how good you are at your job |
| 22:36.52 | ^Migs^ | this was a bad choice of title: http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Chocolate-Yule-Log |
| 22:42.31 | levi | findlay: I have Risk 2210 |
| 23:02.25 | tensai | findlay: how did you know my password? |
| 23:07.35 | findlay | dude, I know your pw |
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| 23:14.06 | Jayce^ | hahha |
| 23:14.31 | Jayce^ | it's 1...2....3....4....5... |
| 23:19.04 | goozbach | that's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage! |
| 23:19.19 | findlay | dude! |
| 23:21.49 | findlay | levi: is is risky? |
| 23:25.18 | synic | is IS risky! |
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| 23:40.56 | levi | findlay: I haven't played regular Risk much, but it seems quite a bit like it to me. |
| 23:41.14 | levi | findlay: Except with some new elements, like aquatic colonies and a moon. |
| 23:46.13 | findlay | well, we're going to need borrowing an instance in the next few days |
| 23:46.13 | findlay | s/ing// |
| 23:46.13 | levi | What for? |
| 23:48.24 | findlay | levi: we're making a movie out of it just for fun |
