| 00:00.04 | Shadowwire | -8ball will I ever find true love? |
| 00:00.04 | brac | no clue |
| 00:00.12 | Shadowwire | oh good. |
| 00:01.17 | Shadowwire | -8ball will RyanE find a babysitter? |
| 00:01.17 | brac | *shrug* |
| 00:02.41 | Shadowwire | -8ball will the steelers win? |
| 00:02.41 | brac | dunno |
| 00:02.48 | Shadowwire | Knew it! |
| 00:03.23 | Shadowwire | -8ball will I leave mirc in 10 seconds? |
| 00:03.24 | brac | no idea |
| 00:03.34 | Shadowwire | shows what you know. |
| 00:11.52 | findlay | what do I know? |
| 00:11.56 | findlay | -chat what do |
| 00:11.57 | brac | what do you think that I think you'd find thousands of dollars flushed down the street, so that makes me "more contributeable" or something |
| 00:12.17 | elg | woe |
| 00:13.53 | elg | levi: you still have tiger right? |
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| 00:31.57 | Supaplex | 5:30 and the big blue room is closed? bah. |
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| 00:35.13 | elg | this is fantastical. |
| 00:35.21 | elg | on osx, |
| 00:35.33 | elg | $ sh |
| 00:35.33 | elg | sh-3.2$ echo -n foo |
| 00:35.33 | elg | -n foo |
| 00:35.46 | elg | but ONLY in Terminal.app. In iTerm, it works fine |
| 00:37.55 | elg | so the report goes. I'm going to try it in iTerm |
| 00:43.20 | tensai | elg: is echo a shell builtin or an executable? |
| 00:43.26 | tensai | try /bin/echo -n foo |
| 00:43.51 | tensai | type echo |
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| 00:48.58 | dmdavis | synergy is cool, but it does wacky stuff sometimes |
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| 00:49.19 | Keighvin | Yeah, had it freak out on me every once in a while too. |
| 00:49.23 | Keighvin | Been a while though. |
| 00:51.31 | elg | builtin |
| 00:51.34 | elg | /bin/echo works |
| 00:51.40 | elg | yes, it works in iTerm. very odd |
| 00:51.48 | elg | I don't see any difference in environment |
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| 04:01.09 | levi | elg: Still around? I do still have Tiger. |
| 04:03.06 | levi | elg: That case seems to work properly for me. |
| 04:03.23 | levi | sh-2.05b$ /bin/echo -n foo |
| 04:03.24 | levi | foosh-2.05b$ |
| 04:05.06 | elg | iterm or terminal.app? |
| 04:05.25 | elg | though it is likely that it would work properly |
| 04:05.48 | elg | probably a unique regression on this particular version |
| 04:06.40 | elg | levi: oh, do try just 'echo -n foo' |
| 04:06.41 | elg | i.e. |
| 04:06.46 | elg | sh -c 'echo -n foo' |
| 04:06.57 | elg | /bin/echo will work every time, but it's the built-in echo that's buggy |
| 04:07.06 | levi | It was terminal.app |
| 04:07.38 | levi | I did try the one without the /bin/echo, too, I just pasted the wrong one. |
| 04:07.48 | levi | Seems to work right either way. |
| 04:08.05 | levi | I wonder why the terminal would have anything to do with that. |
| 04:08.49 | levi | So, apparently the Programmer's Stone guy has been busy. |
| 04:09.13 | levi | (If you don't recall him, he's the mapper vs. packer guy) |
| 04:10.21 | levi | http://the-programmers-stone.com/about/ |
| 04:12.17 | levi | Anyway, unix shells are evil. Our love of them is born from Stockholm Syndrome. |
| 04:14.10 | elg | i would say unix shells are lacking, ofttimes misguided, and arcane. but our love of them comes from them being dang useful and powerful in spite of all that |
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| 06:07.19 | findlay | ~weather kpvu |
| 06:07.59 | findlay | -weather kpvu |
| 06:08.02 | brac | 13 minutes ago, on Sat Dec 08 05:55:00 UTC 2007, the wind was blowing at a speed of 2.06 meters per second (4.60 miles per hour) from the East at KPVU. The temperature was 4 degrees Celsius (39 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1006 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 80.8%. There were a few clouds at a height of 549 meters (1800 feet), scattered clouds at a height |
| 06:08.02 | brac | of 823 meter (2700 feet) and broken clouds at a height of 975 meters (3200 feet). |
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| 06:10.27 | Lakshmi | i know |
| 06:47.12 | findlay | ~roar Lakshmi |
| 06:47.18 | findlay | -chat roar |
| 06:47.18 | brac | roar had |
| 06:47.23 | findlay | -chat Lakshmi |
| 06:47.23 | brac | Lakshmi is an expression. |
| 06:47.31 | findlay | hmm |
| 06:48.06 | findlay | ~date |
| 06:48.06 | ibot | It is now 2007.12.08 6:48:06 GMT |
| 06:48.10 | findlay | ~time |
| 06:48.10 | ibot | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.12.08 6:48:10 GMT) |
| 06:48.13 | Lakshmi | findlay are you some annoyed teenager that jus needs to shut up? |
| 06:48.26 | Lakshmi | can u stop highlighting my name |
| 06:48.26 | Lakshmi | its super annoying |
| 06:48.33 | findlay | Lakshmi: yes, of course. What else could I be? |
| 06:48.45 | findlay | find |
| 06:48.47 | findlay | fine |
| 06:48.51 | findlay | see if I care |
| 06:49.32 | findlay | -chat annoyed teenager |
| 06:49.33 | brac | annoyed teenager that jus needs to shut himself up |
| 06:49.35 | Lakshmi | im going to ignore you now |
| 06:49.37 | Lakshmi | buy |
| 06:49.39 | Lakshmi | er bye |
| 06:49.46 | findlay | k, buy :) |
| 06:50.04 | Lakshmi | /ignore findlay |
| 06:50.21 | findlay | guess I can say Lakshmi with abandon now ;) |
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| 07:42.27 | Sargun | .. |
| 07:44.08 | linuxalien | Hi |
| 07:45.35 | findlay | ~sargun Sargun |
| 07:45.36 | ibot | go away Tene |
| 07:46.30 | findlay | ~cmd ~time |
| 07:46.46 | findlay | ~cmd mumble blahblah ~time |
| 07:46.48 | findlay | hm |
| 07:46.57 | findlay | ~time |
| 07:46.58 | ibot | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.12.08 7:46:58 GMT) |
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| 08:45.31 | findlay | been speeding over any aquatic sharks on a powered watercraft lately? |
| 08:46.29 | Supaplex | not I |
| 08:49.44 | findlay | I'm sad now that Lakshmi hath eschewed me |
| 08:58.43 | findlay | ~sad |
| 08:58.44 | ibot | ACTION looks at findlay 'I wonder why findlay looks so sad' |
| 08:58.54 | findlay | dude, I just said why |
| 09:10.45 | Supaplex | ~tickle Lakshmi |
| 09:10.46 | ibot | ACTION jumps on Lakshmi, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 09:34.58 | findlay | -chat Read error: |
| 09:34.59 | brac | Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 09:35.02 | findlay | -chat Read error |
| 09:35.03 | brac | Read error at byte 12602385/17081631 (Invalid argument). Retrying. |
| 09:35.17 | Supaplex | nice |
| 09:35.26 | Supaplex | -chat brain freeze |
| 09:35.26 | brac | brain freeze |
| 09:35.34 | Supaplex | -chat copy cat |
| 09:35.34 | brac | copy cat / inspiree |
| 09:36.06 | findlay | -chat go away |
| 09:36.06 | findlay | -chat has quit |
| 09:36.07 | brac | go away ... |
| 09:36.07 | brac | has quit (Overflow Error) |
| 09:36.25 | findlay | -chat TICKLE FIGHT |
| 09:36.25 | brac | TICKLE FIGHT |
| 09:36.29 | findlay | yay |
| 09:36.45 | Supaplex | -chat yay |
| 09:36.45 | brac | yay went |
| 09:36.58 | Supaplex | -chat that's TMI |
| 09:37.01 | brac | that's TMI |
| 09:37.12 | Supaplex | -chat stupid bird |
| 09:37.13 | brac | stupid bird |
| 09:37.18 | Supaplex | heh |
| 09:38.26 | Supaplex | ~entertain findlay |
| 09:38.26 | ibot | ACTION shows findlay family photos while break dancing on black and white movie reels |
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| 19:03.10 | findlay | ~stuff |
| 19:03.11 | ibot | ACTION is stuffing George* |
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| 19:28.17 | findlay | -chat |
| 19:28.19 | brac | 3.5 liters |
| 19:30.56 | vontrapp | -chat 3.5 monkeys |
| 19:30.56 | brac | 3.5 monkeys |
| 19:35.48 | vontrapp | because these labs are sooo cold! |
| 19:36.15 | findlay | but think of the overclocking capacity. Will no one think of that?! |
| 19:36.42 | vontrapp | i'm just glad i thought to bring the hat |
| 19:37.03 | vontrapp | scarf and hat even |
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| 19:50.48 | vontrapp | gah, i try to install hotplug and it wants to remove just about everything important |
| 19:51.12 | vontrapp | the kernel, network manager, update-notifier, nvidia-glx ... |
| 19:52.08 | vontrapp | what's the ubuntu equivalent of hotplug? since apparently it doesn't like it |
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| 21:01.57 | levi | elg: Why are you making soap? |
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| 21:08.10 | elg | for fun |
| 21:08.23 | elg | because i can |
| 21:14.24 | vontrapp | atoponce: what's wrong with the ubuntu network team? |
| 21:15.18 | vontrapp | as in crazy confusing web portals? |
| 21:15.47 | Supaplex | uhm isn't hotplug replaced with udev? |
| 21:16.27 | vontrapp | Supaplex: yeah, it is |
| 21:16.49 | vontrapp | i found how to fix the firmware problem, only to run into a kernel driver bug that panicks the kernel |
| 21:17.22 | vontrapp | it's at least 4 months old, the fix is moving two lines down by two lines each, and IT'S NOT FIXED!! |
| 21:18.31 | Supaplex | yup. half the bugs on xen in debian are over a year old. |
| 21:18.55 | Supaplex | I found a few new bugs in the last week, and have fixes for them, but I'm stumped on a linker issue. |
| 21:18.55 | vontrapp | do they have documented fixes? |
| 21:19.08 | Supaplex | I submitted a patch for one recently |
| 21:19.21 | Supaplex | simple dependency |
| 21:20.10 | vontrapp | i'd fix the darn thing myself if i was able to |
| 21:20.20 | vontrapp | (well, i am fixing it myself for _my_ computer) |
| 21:20.28 | Supaplex | http://bugs.debian.org/399700 |
| 21:21.12 | Supaplex | bug was opened 1y+ ago :P |
| 21:22.19 | atoponce | vontrapp: what do you mean? |
| 21:22.44 | atoponce | what's wrong with the network team? |
| 21:23.01 | vontrapp | a simple bug, they even triaged the only bug above it in importance, and the fix is stupid simple |
| 21:23.11 | vontrapp | but it's not fixed yet |
| 21:23.56 | atoponce | that debian bug? |
| 21:24.15 | vontrapp | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/130998 |
| 21:24.25 | vontrapp | it panicks the kernel |
| 21:24.59 | vontrapp | granted, it's not ubuntu or even debian, someone pulled a faulty patch in the driver into tha main kernel source |
| 21:25.10 | vontrapp | but c'mon, can't they just fix the darn thing? |
| 21:26.30 | atoponce | email them, and see what the hold up is. it may be more involved than it looks |
| 21:28.46 | atoponce | of course, the 2.6.23 kernel was supposed to be due out any time. maybe they're waiting for that |
| 21:29.30 | atoponce | the fact that we're on 2.6.22 is sill, imho, even with sid |
| 21:29.39 | atoponce | s/ill/illy/ |
| 21:55.39 | findlay | atoponce: got it |
| 21:56.03 | findlay | http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49/pc/rom/eqlibpertbl.zip |
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| 22:43.34 | vontrapp | hmm, anyone know how i can alias a named route to another name in rails? |
| 22:49.24 | Sargun | uh |
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| 23:31.29 | elg | ibot, onjoin elg A cow once bit my møøse. |
| 23:31.29 | ibot | elg: ok |
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| 23:58.22 | findlay | ~uh Sargun |
| 23:58.22 | ibot | rumour has it, sargun is amazing. |
| 23:58.30 | findlay | hm |
| 23:58.38 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 23:58.38 | ibot | beats findlay over the head with a microkernel |
| 23:59.02 | findlay | I already ate microkernel today |