| 00:01.47 | dataw0lf | I have a lot of law enforcement in the family and they all say the same thing. Guys join because they have a chip on their shoulder and want to bully people around. |
| 00:02.47 | dataw0lf | letting the situation go out of control like this officer did is inexcusable. It doesn't matter what the civilian's attitude was like. It was easily preventable, and that's really what officers should be about. |
| 00:02.53 | brasto | I imagine many of them do. Perhaps there are a few who have interest in defending the law without being completely motivated by bullying. |
| 00:03.14 | dataw0lf | brasto: I never said that all of them had the same motivation. I'm just saying that it's a pattern that has been feeding itself for years. |
| 00:03.22 | dataw0lf | There are plenty of amazing officers out there. |
| 00:03.50 | brasto | I agree dataw0lf, I didn't think you were saying that about all of them. my statement wasn't directed to you specifically. |
| 00:19.18 | brasto | I enjoyed the conversation dataw0lf. time to go home! c-y'all later. |
| 00:25.57 | tristanbob | where are ssh logs stored? |
| 00:26.07 | tensai | syslog |
| 00:26.09 | tristanbob | like access denied, access granted, other errors |
| 00:26.18 | tristanbob | what file? /var/log/messages |
| 00:26.27 | tensai | /var/log/secure |
| 00:27.05 | tensai | that's for RH. more specifically they go wherever your syslog daemon is configured to send them. look in syslog.conf for where "auth" is going. |
| 00:27.36 | tensai | for example on debian: auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log |
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| 00:29.46 | tristanbob | ahhh I see a /var/log/syslog and /var/log/auth.log - cool thanks tensai |
| 00:30.33 | tristanbob | wow I can see all my sudo commands! that is great! and who entered them |
| 00:35.11 | Supaplex | just a tad bit important :) |
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| 00:43.01 | brac | [~ |
| 00:43.01 | brac | ~say Someone whom you reject today, will reject you tomorrow. |
| 00:43.05 | ibot | Someone whom you reject today, will reject you tomorrow. |
| 00:43.05 | brac | ~] |
| 00:44.06 | Sargun | ibot, I hate you. |
| 00:44.07 | ibot | You hate you.? |
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| 01:31.03 | nick125 | Sargun: So, how's that SMD LED soldering going? :P |
| 01:31.10 | nick125 | I can't believe this |
| 01:31.17 | nick125 | the fscking tip on my soldering iron is like melted. |
| 01:31.19 | nick125 | first use too. |
| 01:31.23 | Sargun | lol |
| 01:31.35 | nick125 | damn cheap walmart $10 soldering irons! |
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| 01:37.19 | findlay | ~pineapple |
| 01:37.19 | ibot | ACTION dances around with a pineapple on her head, singing ~o pineapple pineapple pineapple ~o |
| 01:48.09 | vontrapp | ~no pinapple is <action> dances around with a pineapple on her head, singing o/' O pineapple, O pineapple, they skin is very pokey o/` |
| 01:48.10 | ibot | okay, vontrapp |
| 01:48.30 | vontrapp | ~pineapple =~ s/they/thy/ |
| 01:48.30 | ibot | vontrapp: that doesn't contain 'they' |
| 01:49.02 | vontrapp | ~no pineapple is <action> dances around with a pineapple on her head, singing o/' O pineapple, O pineapple, thy skin is very pokey o/` |
| 01:49.02 | ibot | okay, vontrapp |
| 01:49.10 | vontrapp | ~forget pinapple |
| 01:49.10 | ibot | vontrapp: i forgot pinapple |
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| 01:58.31 | vontrapp | ~onjoin #utah fozzmoo .__ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ _ | \/ |/ _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \| | | |\/| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| |_| |_| |_|\___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/(_) |
| 01:58.31 | ibot | vontrapp: ok |
| 01:58.36 | vontrapp | haha |
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| 01:59.11 | fozzmoo | I wish that looked good in pidgin. :( |
| 02:01.58 | encryptz | doesn't look good in irssi |
| 02:11.06 | encryptz | ~figlet moo |
| 02:11.09 | encryptz | -figlet moo |
| 02:11.10 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.10 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.12 | brac | | '_ ` _ \ / _ \ / _ \ |
| 02:11.14 | brac | | | | | | || (_) || (_) | |
| 02:11.16 | brac | |_| |_| |_| \___/ \___/ |
| 02:11.18 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.16 | herlo | ~figlet dork |
| 02:15.39 | levi | elg: Congrats on the baby. :) |
| 02:35.20 | levi | elg: My paternal grandma was a MacLaughlin. |
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| 02:41.20 | vontrapp | it does look good in irssi |
| 02:41.28 | nick125 | Yeah, it looks fine here |
| 02:41.39 | vontrapp | but only if you have 80 cols |
| 02:58.01 | nick125 | $299 isn't bad for a network-enabled color laser printer, right? |
| 03:08.37 | levi | Sounds decent. |
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| 03:16.07 | fozzmoo | unless it's a Lexmark... then it's not. :) |
| 03:16.22 | fozzmoo | (not not bad) |
| 03:30.17 | nick125 | It's a brother |
| 03:41.27 | jsmith | Oh brother |
| 03:42.58 | elg | -lart jsmith |
| 03:43.02 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 03:43.05 | jsmith | I'd be famous! |
| 03:43.09 | elg | levi: cool. does that make you part of the clan? |
| 03:43.23 | jsmith | elg: Congrats on the new child process ;-) |
| 03:43.40 | elg | i know we both have some irish ancestry, but I don't know much about it |
| 03:44.09 | jsmith | elg: Who got the closest on the little blog contest? |
| 03:44.29 | elg | a lady in our ward was all "that's an odd name for a german baby" |
| 03:44.38 | elg | pretty funny, since my name isn't german either. :) |
| 03:45.06 | elg | but i'm actually more british isles than scandinavian, when you add up the ancestors |
| 03:47.21 | elg | let's see. plenty o' dark hair, white skin, blue eyes, 8.5lb 19.5in, 2335 hours, hook toe |
| 03:47.32 | klys_ | ~seen shadowwire |
| 03:47.33 | ibot | shadowwire <n=shadowwi@209-253-33-218.ip.mcleodusa.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 10h 33m 56s ago, saying: 'Hey, anybody know why SATAII drives are not 10,000 rpm yet?'. |
| 03:47.33 | elg | a few days early |
| 03:48.50 | elg | my b-i-l got the 8.5lb right on |
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| 04:02.37 | findlay | ~say -chat ~random |
| 04:02.38 | ibot | -chat ~random |
| 04:02.39 | brac | ~random did |
| 04:03.08 | findlay | ~say -chat ~say -chat |
| 04:03.08 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat |
| 04:03.10 | brac | ~say -chat about ~onjoin findlay -chat about recursive one. |
| 04:03.10 | ibot | -chat about ~onjoin findlay -chat about recursive one. |
| 04:03.11 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 04:10.15 | findlay | looks like that dude unplugged my network cord *again* |
| 04:10.32 | findlay | despite the stern-looking postit I wrote |
| 04:11.08 | vontrapp | findlay: why does he do that? |
| 04:11.18 | vontrapp | does he steal the cord for himself? |
| 04:11.40 | findlay | vontrapp: I have no idea. I'm not at work when he does it |
| 04:12.01 | vontrapp | time for the automated paintball setup |
| 04:12.18 | findlay | mut my computer can't do *mission* *critical* daily data backups with it out |
| 04:12.22 | findlay | s/m/b/ |
| 04:12.43 | findlay | I'm highly annoyed |
| 04:13.40 | findlay | maybe if I duct tape it on he'll get the idea |
| 04:19.48 | findlay | ~duct tape |
| 04:19.49 | ibot | i heard duct tape is the greatest invention of all mankind, or holds the universe together |
| 04:33.53 | elg | findlay: leave some bare wires hanging there, with a high voltage sign |
| 04:34.03 | elg | don't bother to make them harmless |
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| 05:08.42 | Tene | findlay: can't you just... talk to him? ask him why he's doing it? |
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| 05:29.29 | Sargun | What's the imaging scan they do for cancer? |
| 05:29.45 | Sargun | that sees if an organ is metabolizing too much |
| 05:31.57 | vontrapp | i think it's that nuclear one |
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| 05:37.33 | decriptor | evening all |
| 05:42.38 | Supaplex | hello |
| 05:52.59 | findlay | Tene: nope. I'm never there when he is |
| 05:53.02 | findlay | sorry :( |
| 05:53.05 | findlay | try again :) |
| 05:53.23 | Tene | findlay: email! call his cell phone as soon as the cable is unplugged! |
| 05:53.50 | Tene | Write a script to have the asterisk system call him whenever the cable is unplugged and play a pre-recorded cvoice message. |
| 05:53.50 | findlay | yeah, but that would take effort |
| 05:53.58 | findlay | heh, now your talking |
| 05:54.36 | findlay | or how about my computer starts making alarming noises whenever the network gets unplugged |
| 05:54.55 | Tene | yes |
| 05:54.57 | Tene | YES |
| 05:55.18 | Tene | ALERT! CABLE PLUGGINESS ERROR DETECTED! DETATCHING KILLER HORSE ROBOTS!!! |
| 06:01.05 | Supaplex | scanning network topology... COMCAST DEADEND DETECTED! battle stations! |
| 06:01.38 | findlay | yes, and the smoke machine |
| 06:02.16 | vontrapp | and have his phone ring, so he KNOWS he's caught |
| 06:02.51 | vontrapp | all of that together, wow |
| 06:04.44 | Supaplex | ~say -say yup |
| 06:04.44 | ibot | -say yup |
| 06:12.45 | Tene | -chat findlay hates |
| 06:12.45 | brac | findlay hates dealing with connectivity, under your hat? |
| 06:21.17 | vontrapp | -chat comcast |
| 06:21.17 | brac | comcast did |
| 06:21.35 | vontrapp | -chat comcast eats |
| 06:21.36 | brac | comcast eats |
| 06:26.58 | findlay | ~say -chat ~eat |
| 06:26.59 | ibot | -chat ~eat |
| 06:27.00 | brac | ~eat is |
| 06:27.00 | ibot | ACTION eats is and falls over dead |
| 06:27.29 | Supaplex | ~eat year old rotting lard |
| 06:27.30 | ibot | ACTION eats year old rotting lard and falls over dead |
| 06:33.11 | Supaplex | ~eat it |
| 06:33.12 | ibot | That's too disgusting. |
| 08:15.27 | findlay | ~chat |
| 08:15.28 | ibot | chat is probably -chat |
| 08:15.29 | findlay | -chat |
| 08:15.32 | brac | <darth_tux> macupdate.com, was that the probability of affecting change on a Slot-A board that comes by here |
| 08:15.42 | findlay | -chat stuff |
| 08:15.42 | brac | stuff did |
| 08:15.53 | findlay | -chat Supaplex |
| 08:15.53 | brac | Supaplex was concerned with |
| 08:16.33 | Supaplex | wut |
| 08:16.49 | findlay | -chat Tene |
| 08:16.49 | brac | Tene was there. |
| 08:17.03 | findlay | -chat herlo |
| 08:17.03 | brac | herlo had a girlfriend onto IRC |
| 08:17.09 | findlay | heh |
| 08:18.57 | Supaplex | :) |
| 08:19.11 | Supaplex | 1chat findlay'sBordem is |
| 08:19.20 | Supaplex | -chat findlay'sBordem is |
| 08:19.20 | brac | findlay'sBordem is |
| 08:19.30 | Supaplex | bah typofit. |
| 08:27.04 | Sargun | uh |
| 08:27.48 | Supaplex | hi Sargun |
| 08:29.02 | Sargun | hi Supaplex |
| 08:29.26 | Sargun | Supaplex, I have a PXE question: Can you boot windows XP pro edition via PXE? |
| 08:29.58 | Supaplex | I've never tried |
| 08:31.20 | Supaplex | I think that's what RIS/RAS (remote install service?) is all about, but someone told me about 'unattended install' that uses gnu stuff to install windows via netboot |
| 08:32.50 | Supaplex | if you're looking for a central network storage kind of approach, I'd look into fibrechannel. the adapters and switches are not hard to come by. The SAN however is another store. $someday I'll invest some effort into creating one |
| 08:33.03 | Supaplex | s/store/story/ |
| 08:47.33 | Sargun | Supaplex, FC is $ |
| 08:50.37 | Supaplex | I bought a ton of HBA's, cables and two switches for ~ $150 on ebay |
| 08:50.49 | Supaplex | you could get away with two HBA's and one cable to start |
| 08:50.58 | Sargun | whoa |
| 08:51.28 | Supaplex | last I checked 1gbit HBAs were ~$10-15 shipped |
| 08:52.08 | Sargun | Used |
| 08:52.11 | Sargun | and PCI? |
| 08:52.13 | Supaplex | but be sure to grab ones you want to use with your os. :) try to avoid the SUNos-ish ones. |
| 08:52.16 | Sargun | (32bit) |
| 08:52.17 | Supaplex | yup, yup |
| 08:52.40 | Supaplex | most of the PCI-X cards will just run a little degraded in a PCI only slot |
| 14:06.23 | elg | -chat |
| 14:06.26 | brac | Whistling in the correct answer is "sure, you can assume something. you can redistribute any changes needed for my death. |
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| 15:12.58 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 15:12.59 | ibot | turns ChanServ into a lifesized tux doll |
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| 15:40.44 | tensai | yay! an ubuntu update that *doesn't* include samba-common. |
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| 15:52.50 | Shadowwire | ~lart Something |
| 15:52.50 | ibot | gives Something a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 15:56.50 | Shadowwire | ~lart brac |
| 15:56.50 | ibot | decapitates brac conan the destroyer style |
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| 16:03.32 | Shadowwire | ~lart cheesecake! |
| 16:03.32 | ibot | cuts cheesecake! into thin stripes |
| 16:07.09 | Shadowwire | ~lart Thin strips for living, |
| 16:07.09 | ibot | strangles Thin strips with a doohicky mouse cord for living, |
| 16:07.34 | Shadowwire | ~lart -brac |
| 16:07.34 | ibot | calls -brac on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 16:07.34 | elg | -chat |
| 16:07.40 | brac | |_.__/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/(_) |
| 16:07.50 | Shadowwire | -chat about ~lart |
| 16:07.51 | brac | ~lart had |
| 16:07.51 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at had |
| 16:08.02 | Shadowwire | -chat about ~lart |
| 16:08.02 | brac | ~lart went |
| 16:08.02 | ibot | burns went to a crisp with a laser |
| 16:08.08 | elg | -chat ~lart sjansen |
| 16:08.09 | brac | ~lart sjansen for all you land will be assigned a two week spread delivery estimate. |
| 16:08.09 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of sjansen's pants for all you land will be assigned a two week spread delivery estimate. |
| 16:08.32 | elg | -chat ~lart emcnabb |
| 16:08.32 | brac | ~lart emcnabb and sontek that harleypig is all about. |
| 16:08.32 | ibot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that emcnabb and sontek that harleypig is all about. is stuck to the floor |
| 16:09.02 | Shadowwire | -chat ~lart elg |
| 16:09.03 | brac | ~lart elg for killing some enemy. |
| 16:09.03 | ibot | frags elg with his BFG9000 for killing some enemy. |
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| 16:12.38 | Shadowwire | -chat ~lart me |
| 16:12.38 | brac | ~lart me baby! with an oreo cookie. |
| 16:12.38 | ibot | blames me baby! with an oreo cookie. for all the evil in the world |
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| 16:12.57 | Shadowwire | -chat ~lart /me |
| 16:12.58 | brac | ~lart /me |
| 16:12.58 | ibot | nabs the moon and broadsides /me with the sea of tranquility |
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| 16:15.08 | Kemotaha | -chat ~lart brac |
| 16:15.09 | brac | ~lart brac for the cows, I mean? I was in Afghan. The most important factor on em |
| 16:15.09 | ibot | DoSes brac for the cows, I mean? I was in Afghan. The most important factor on em |
| 16:15.38 | Shadowwire | -chat about -chat |
| 16:15.38 | brac | -chat had |
| 16:16.02 | Shadowwire | -chat -chat -chat |
| 16:16.02 | brac | -chat -chat |
| 16:16.24 | Shadowwire | ~latr brac |
| 16:16.25 | Kemotaha | -chart ~lart -chat |
| 16:16.33 | Kemotaha | -chat ~lart -chat |
| 16:16.34 | brac | ~lart -chat |
| 16:16.34 | ibot | squeezes -chat till -chat turns blue like papa smurf |
| 16:17.52 | Shadowwire | -chat ~lart Purple monkey dishwasher |
| 16:17.52 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 16:18.04 | Shadowwire | -chat |
| 16:18.04 | brac | Collateral Damage |
| 16:18.37 | Shadowwire | -chat ~lart something |
| 16:18.37 | brac | ~lart something |
| 16:18.37 | ibot | holds something to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 16:48.00 | elg | -roulette |
| 16:48.00 | brac | elg: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 16:48.23 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 16:48.24 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 16:48.29 | Shadowwire | ouch. |
| 16:48.39 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 16:48.40 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 16:50.18 | tensai | elg: I'm trying out svk. really not much of a learning curve if you already know svn. |
| 16:53.10 | elg | yay |
| 16:53.16 | elg | -roulette |
| 16:53.16 | brac | elg: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 16:53.30 | jsmith | -roulette |
| 16:53.31 | brac | jsmith: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 16:53.46 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 16:53.47 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 16:53.49 | elg | ~mock jsmith |
| 16:53.49 | ibot | ACTION pulls jsmith's pants down and shows the world jsmith's pink spotted underwear |
| 16:53.55 | elg | -roulette |
| 16:53.56 | brac | elg: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 16:55.31 | thaddeusq | http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=914&tag=nl.e622 |
| 17:02.37 | levi | Morning. |
| 17:03.18 | Shadowwire | -greet levi |
| 17:03.24 | Shadowwire | ~greet levi |
| 17:03.24 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on levi |
| 17:03.36 | elg | thaddeusq: why are you peddling trash? |
| 17:03.43 | elg | that's not even worth snickering at |
| 17:04.32 | levi | elg: 'Cause the EFF wants to steal our cheap internets!!!1 |
| 17:04.38 | Shadowwire | So, you didnt like that article? |
| 17:04.49 | elg | i wouldn't call it an article |
| 17:05.16 | Shadowwire | Are you saying that the eff is right? |
| 17:05.21 | thaddeusq | elg: it's a blog post, I thought some here might find it interesting. |
| 17:05.37 | elg | i'm saying that article is beyond hopeless for making any opinion on what the EFF may or may not have said |
| 17:05.46 | elg | what the EFF is proposing may indeed be worthy of discussion |
| 17:05.53 | Shadowwire | fair enuph. |
| 17:06.16 | thaddeusq | elg: and maybe that blog helps to begin some of that discussion. |
| 17:06.54 | thaddeusq | elg: just because a blog post differs from your opinion, should not make it "trash" |
| 17:12.12 | levi | Hmm, apparently it's the first night of Chanukah tonight. |
| 17:17.31 | pelaofeliz | df |
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| 17:18.48 | Jayce^ | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2086153791&context=set-72157601200807582&size=l |
| 17:18.52 | Jayce^ | which geek are you? |
| 17:19.20 | Kemotaha | we can only be one? |
| 17:20.20 | levi | Hah, the Tron guy is on there. |
| 17:21.10 | Jayce^ | nah, I think I fall into a few of those |
| 17:21.14 | elg | thaddeusq: it's not trash because it disagrees with me. I may be more in agreement with it than not, but I can't tell because it's trash |
| 17:21.48 | levi | It's an alarmist rant. |
| 17:22.44 | elg | hey look, harleypig's new outfit. second from the bottom on the right |
| 17:22.45 | levi | All too common these days. But not too surprising, considering how many people love to hear alarmist rants from their favorite talking heads. |
| 17:23.07 | Jayce^ | elg, that or the cosplay one :) |
| 17:28.55 | levi | elg: How are your wife and new baby doing? |
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| 17:34.36 | levi | http://pac-txt.com/ |
| 17:34.38 | brac | [Pac-Txt: Pac-Man meets Zork] |
| 17:36.11 | Jayce^ | oh levi, that's awful.. and awesome.. |
| 17:37.56 | levi | I played it long enough to get eaten by a ghost. |
| 17:38.22 | maquis | lol\ |
| 17:42.00 | levi | Heh, a Phil Greenspun quote: "Ever since the advent of the programming language C, however, this is not how software is designed. Instead of asking "how can we fulfill user requirements?" C programmers ask "how many of the features that were commonly available in 1970 can I add to my program without it crashing (too often)?" " |
| 17:50.58 | synico | if the network is 10.1.1.x, what should /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf contain for the com2sec localNet line? |
| 18:18.15 | dataw0lf | synic: the netmask |
| 18:18.31 | dataw0lf | 10.1.1.0/24 public |
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| 19:22.55 | vontrapp | where's a good resource for color math? like how to get the inverse of a color, or wash it out, etc |
| 19:23.15 | vontrapp | RGB mostly |
| 19:24.50 | vontrapp | or even a ruby lib would be excellent |
| 19:25.05 | herlo | vontrapp: agave |
| 19:25.21 | herlo | http://fedora-tutorials.com/2007/11/28/pow-agave/ |
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| 19:29.04 | vontrapp | hmm, cool, but i want the math behind it or a programmable interface to the math |
| 19:36.21 | levi | These links might be useful: http://www.colorwiki.com/wiki/Category:Color_Theory_and_Science |
| 19:37.07 | levi | Color theory seems to be a non-trivial field. |
| 19:56.13 | Sargun | Heya. |
| 19:56.43 | Sargun | I'm going to washington tomorrow. |
| 19:56.55 | nick125 | Sargun: for what? |
| 19:56.56 | goozbach | lte IS just a fancy form of GSM |
| 19:57.30 | nick125 | Where did my knife go... |
| 19:57.33 | goozbach | ~wtf LTE |
| 19:57.41 | goozbach | ~wtf GSM |
| 19:57.42 | Sargun | my company is tossing me at washington. |
| 19:57.54 | nick125 | LTE isn't based on GSM...it's just the choice that the GSM association chose. |
| 19:57.55 | Sargun | To do a training for a company |
| 19:58.13 | nick125 | Sargun: what city? |
| 19:58.28 | Sargun | One of the big ones :-P |
| 19:58.42 | goozbach | looks like a newer format |
| 19:58.57 | Sargun | kirkland |
| 19:59.06 | nick125 | goozbach: LTE is a 4G data standard |
| 19:59.40 | Sargun | I'm going to CostCoLand |
| 19:59.44 | nick125 | lol |
| 20:11.39 | elg | goozbach is just a fancy form of pineapple |
| 20:12.26 | goozbach | yes I am |
| 20:12.52 | elg | pineapple and cottage cheese go well together. how does your wife feel about that? |
| 20:17.02 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: Around? |
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| 20:28.44 | brasto | what do you guys use for bug tracking and testing? Does anyone use bugzilla with testopia? |
| 20:29.11 | elg | you might as well use napkins as bugzilla, imo |
| 20:29.19 | elg | Jayce^ likes RT |
| 20:29.36 | elg | i've been impressed by very little, except mabye fogbugz (not free) |
| 20:30.26 | brasto | I've heard jira is good, but it's also not OSS |
| 20:34.16 | herlo | brasto: trac |
| 20:34.59 | herlo | I'm guessing that macnewbol1 would say flyspray |
| 20:39.45 | goozbach | trac |
| 20:39.49 | goozbach | trac++ |
| 20:39.54 | Sargun | brac, Bugzilla. |
| 20:39.58 | goozbach | bugzilla |
| 20:39.58 | Sargun | We used to use Trac |
| 20:40.04 | Sargun | er, Track. |
| 20:40.06 | maquis | -chat bug-tracking |
| 20:40.07 | brac | bug-tracking had |
| 20:40.08 | Sargun | it sucked. |
| 20:40.12 | maquis | -chat |
| 20:40.13 | brac | no IP address for billing purposes |
| 20:40.29 | herlo | launchpad is supposedly pretty good...but I'm not an ubuntu-head |
| 20:42.35 | brasto | are these mostly bug tracking, or do they also sport some cool testing features? |
| 20:43.42 | levi | If you guys would just stop writing bugs into your software, you wouldn't need defect trackers! ;) |
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| 20:54.24 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: yes |
| 20:54.46 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: I noticed on the UTOS wiki you were looking for admins, but I thought you were the admin. |
| 20:55.21 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: Do you guys need more admin help? |
| 20:56.21 | Jayce^ | ~lart bugzilla |
| 20:56.21 | ibot | takes out bugzilla with the trash |
| 20:56.26 | Jayce^ | ~rt++ |
| 21:01.01 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: Herlo and I are both admins. I didn't think that we need more admins though. |
| 21:02.28 | findlay | I can admin |
| 21:02.33 | findlay | I know how to do rm -rf |
| 21:03.39 | tensai | findlay: I don't believe you. show me. |
| 21:04.18 | findlay | ~rm -rf tensai |
| 21:04.19 | ibot | -rf tensai is an unperson |
| 21:04.22 | brac | can do! |
| 21:04.30 | findlay | interesting |
| 21:04.57 | tensai | that's what I thought. back to hacker school for you. |
| 21:40.25 | maquis | -chat tensai |
| 21:40.26 | brac | tensai had a better choice |
| 21:40.41 | maquis | -chat maquis |
| 21:40.41 | tensai | I choose bacon. it's always the better choice. |
| 21:40.41 | brac | maquis had |
| 21:40.46 | maquis | -chat maquis |
| 21:40.47 | brac | maquis was close.... |
| 21:40.51 | maquis | -chat maquis |
| 21:40.51 | brac | maquis is really a nice piano music....and pleasant female voice....on hold... |
| 21:41.00 | maquis | uh |
| 21:41.24 | tensai | maquis: you should put out a cd of your nice piano music and please female voice |
| 21:42.57 | goozbach | Oi to the world! and everybody wins! o/~ |
| 21:43.07 | goozbach | alternaive christmas music rocks |
| 21:47.35 | levi | -chat maquis is |
| 21:47.35 | brac | maquis is disappointed... no recipes or anything |
| 21:47.35 | levi | -chat goozbach is |
| 21:47.35 | brac | goozbach is on to the FollowSymLinks |
| 21:47.35 | levi | -chat levi is |
| 21:47.35 | brac | levi is listening to Aqua are you? |
| 21:47.35 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 21:47.35 | levi | -chat elg is |
| 21:47.36 | brac | elg is danish for elk? |
| 21:47.45 | levi | Wow, brac is smart. |
| 21:48.16 | goozbach | ~goozbach |
| 21:48.17 | ibot | [goozbach] a future que-ball. easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch |
| 21:48.25 | goozbach | dang skippy |
| 21:50.02 | goozbach | http://www.thecuttingedgeofchristmas.com/ |
| 21:50.04 | brac | [Welcome To Our Site | Network Solutions] |
| 21:50.24 | goozbach | great christmas music stream |
| 21:50.29 | goozbach | all non-traditional stuff |
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| 21:53.48 | Tene | - |
| 21:54.00 | Tene | -chat tene is |
| 21:54.00 | brac | tene is trying to say 'get all *.cs files recursively, but ignore any in mind, appreciate it when he was obviously the closer you can walk in the day. |
| 21:54.17 | maquis | -chat maquis |
| 21:54.17 | brac | maquis had |
| 21:54.19 | maquis | -chat maquis |
| 21:54.19 | brac | maquis went snorkelling in a private ip rather than 8AM? |
| 21:55.15 | maquis | -chat maquis |
| 21:55.16 | brac | maquis is startled by the Red HOT chili peppers - Stadium Arcadium! |
| 21:55.33 | maquis | -chat thesuperbigfrog |
| 21:55.35 | brac | thesuperbigfrog is a bit scary in the distribution |
| 21:55.48 | maquis | -chat |
| 21:55.48 | brac | never trust anyone |
| 21:55.49 | tensai | that's odd. I told brac something about maquis. |
| 21:55.52 | tensai | -chat maquis had |
| 21:55.52 | brac | maquis had |
| 21:55.56 | tensai | maquis had to go |
| 21:55.57 | maquis | -chat |
| 21:55.58 | tensai | -chat maquis had |
| 21:55.59 | brac | ~lart late night cuddle sessions |
| 21:55.59 | ibot | burns late night cuddle sessions to a crisp with a laser |
| 21:55.59 | brac | maquis had to use CDDL-licensed stuff in the crowd...and ta da.. 4) they declare you...Officer/Agent/Investigator/... take your classes? I know lots of different styles. |
| 21:56.01 | levi | -chat maquis is |
| 21:56.03 | brac | maquis is alive |
| 21:56.29 | tensai | maquis did not throw a live lobster in your hair |
| 21:56.52 | maquis | -chat tensai |
| 21:56.53 | brac | tensai had a chance |
| 21:56.58 | maquis | -chat tensai |
| 21:56.58 | brac | tensai did his dad, and his training happens to people and he's mailing it to last |
| 21:57.23 | tensai | brac: that's the most cromulent thing you've said all day |
| 21:57.31 | maquis | -define cromulent |
| 21:57.35 | maquis | ~define cromulent |
| 21:57.36 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 21:57.41 | maquis | ~dict cromulent |
| 21:58.10 | tensai | maquis: of course you wouldn't get the joke. it's from the simpsons. |
| 21:59.01 | tensai | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cromulent |
| 21:59.38 | maquis | ah |
| 22:08.51 | maquis | -chat tensai |
| 22:08.52 | brac | tensai is trying to make it available for Windows (xp) that lets me keep my kids point toy guns at people that will allow me to go bad. I'm never there when I have another question if he went that way. The apprentice is now 'in a congruent manner', which does its |
| 22:09.06 | findlay | -chat findlay |
| 22:09.07 | brac | findlay is currently on #utos (5d 21h 21m 46s) #utah (5d 3h 7m 48s) #utah (5d 12h 18m 56s) #brlcad (5d 22h 26m 2s) #brlcad (5d 22h 26m 2s) #oe (5d 22h 26m 2s) #kierra (5d 12h 18m 56s) #familiar (5d 12h 18m 56s) #utah (5d 2h 41m 33s) #utah (5d 21h |
| 22:14.18 | findlay | ~say -chat ~quote |
| 22:14.19 | ibot | -chat ~quote |
| 22:14.22 | brac | ~quote is |
| 22:17.26 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 22:17.27 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 22:18.42 | Shadowwire | -caht ~lart brac |
| 22:18.55 | Shadowwire | -chat ~lart brac |
| 22:18.55 | brac | ~lart brac for still not proficient with it. |
| 22:18.55 | ibot | pushes the wall down onto brac whilst whistling innocently for still not proficient with it. |
| 22:24.10 | *** part/#utah brasto (n=brasto@out.lnxi.com) |
| 22:24.42 | rsimpkins | -roulette |
| 22:24.43 | brac | rsimpkins: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:24.51 | Jayce^ | -roulette |
| 22:24.51 | brac | Jayce^: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:24.58 | rsimpkins | -roulette |
| 22:24.58 | brac | rsimpkins: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:25.07 | Jayce^ | -roulette |
| 22:25.08 | brac | Jayce^: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:25.10 | rsimpkins | -roulette |
| 22:25.10 | brac | rsimpkins: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 22:25.12 | rsimpkins | DOH |
| 22:25.16 | Jayce^ | bwahahaha |
| 22:25.26 | rsimpkins | Good thing I had the gun pointed at Jason. |
| 22:25.27 | maquis | -roulette |
| 22:25.28 | brac | maquis: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:25.51 | maquis | jason? |
| 22:30.04 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 22:30.16 | Jayce^ | who's that? :) |
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| 22:36.26 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355699/ |
| 22:36.28 | brac | [Jason Hall (I)] |
| 22:37.49 | rsimpkins | I'm in the movies too. I play the daughter of Maggie Gyllenhaal's character in SherryBaby (2006). http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423169/ |
| 22:37.56 | brac | [SherryBaby (2006)] |
| 22:38.39 | rsimpkins | I'm going to be in a Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet soon as well (in post-production). |
| 22:39.03 | rsimpkins | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0959337/ |
| 22:39.05 | brac | [Revolutionary Road (2008)] |
| 22:39.20 | undertakingyou | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355699/ah] http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355699/ |
| 22:39.29 | undertakingyou | ah] http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355699/ |
| 22:39.33 | brac | [Jason Hall (I)] |
| 22:39.51 | undertakingyou | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000226/ |
| 22:39.53 | brac | [Will Smith (I)] |
| 22:39.59 | undertakingyou | sorry, putty messes me up |
| 22:41.01 | rsimpkins | lol |
| 22:41.24 | Jayce^ | you gotta fix that man |
| 22:45.00 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 22:45.00 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:45.36 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 22:45.36 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:45.46 | nick125 | VNC over SSH > putty |
| 22:46.02 | Shadowwire | Only 3 chambers left! |
| 22:46.24 | Shadowwire | I think we can win this one! |
| 22:48.22 | elg | nick125: if you're referring to bandwidth you're absolutely right |
| 22:48.38 | nick125 | elg: yeah...if you've got the bandwidth, it's nice :p |
| 22:49.00 | maquis | -roulette |
| 22:49.00 | brac | maquis: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:49.07 | maquis | Shadowwire: 2 left |
| 22:49.08 | maquis | :) |
| 22:49.38 | levi | I use vnc over a VPN for some things, but I sure don't like it. |
| 22:56.22 | Shadowwire | -chat -roulette |
| 22:56.22 | brac | -roulette had |
| 22:56.37 | Shadowwire | ~say -roulette |
| 22:56.37 | ibot | -roulette |
| 22:56.39 | brac | ibot: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 22:56.39 | ibot | |ibot? |
| 22:56.58 | Shadowwire | Ha ha. |
| 22:57.19 | Shadowwire | ~say -roulette |
| 22:57.19 | ibot | -roulette |
| 22:57.22 | brac | ibot: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:57.22 | ibot | |ibot? |
| 22:57.35 | Shadowwire | |ibot? |
| 22:57.45 | Shadowwire | ? |
| 22:57.46 | thaddeusq | -roulette |
| 22:57.46 | brac | thaddeusq: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 22:57.52 | thaddeusq | ouch |
| 22:58.05 | Shadowwire | ~say -roulette |
| 22:58.05 | ibot | -roulette |
| 22:58.07 | brac | ibot: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:58.08 | ibot | |ibot? |
| 22:58.12 | thaddeusq | I'm not very good, I guess |
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| 22:58.34 | thaddeusq | -roulette |
| 22:58.35 | brac | thaddeusq: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:58.37 | Shadowwire | It just takes practice. |
| 22:59.33 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 22:59.34 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
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| 23:01.01 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 23:01.02 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 23:01.22 | Shadowwire | ~frag me |
| 23:01.22 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at shadowwire |
| 23:04.25 | levi | Kind of interesting take on programming: http://subtextual.org/subtext2.html |
| 23:04.28 | brac | [Created with Camtasia Studio 5] |
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| 23:08.51 | Lakshmi | can i say computers are stupid! |
| 23:11.05 | levi | Of course computers are stupid. |
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| 23:12.07 | Keighvin | *EXPLETIVE* |
| 23:12.18 | levi | ~language Keighvin |
| 23:12.19 | ibot | ACTION grabs Keighvin by the ear and washes Keighvin's mouth out with soap |
| 23:12.20 | levi | ;) |
| 23:13.00 | Keighvin | *EXPLETIVE REDACTED* |
| 23:18.38 | levi | Mmmm. |
| 23:21.17 | Shadowwire | hmmm. |
| 23:22.30 | levi | I think it's interesting that the Subtext language is still moving ahead. |
| 23:23.12 | Shadowwire | why wouldnt it? |
| 23:23.27 | levi | Shadowwire: Did you follow the link? |
| 23:23.59 | Shadowwire | yes |
| 23:24.12 | Shadowwire | did I miss something? |
| 23:24.27 | levi | It's a visual, table-driven dataflow langauge. Pretty much no one programs in a language like that. |
| 23:24.40 | Shadowwire | I would. |
| 23:25.15 | levi | Which isn't to say that it's without merit; just that it's going to be out of everyone's comfort zone and without a lot of precedent to build on. |
| 23:26.06 | Shadowwire | its like having your program and your flow chart in one. |
| 23:26.49 | Shadowwire | which to me seems like a good idia. |
| 23:27.13 | levi | Well, he clearly thinks it's a good idea. |
| 23:27.22 | levi | And it's certainly interesting. |
| 23:27.32 | Shadowwire | Then again, Im not a programer. |
| 23:28.08 | Shadowwire | not to say I wouldnt like to be. |
| 23:30.13 | Shadowwire | is there such thing as a wannabe programer? |
| 23:30.24 | levi | Yes, definitely. |
| 23:30.29 | Jayce^ | yeah, PHP folks |
| 23:30.57 | Keighvin | Heh. |
| 23:31.34 | Shadowwire | My buddy says I should learn PHP, My co-worker says I should learn Python. |
| 23:31.54 | thaddeusq | ~quote SCOX |
| 23:32.23 | Keighvin | I'd recommend starting with something strictly typed. |
| 23:32.49 | Shadowwire | like C? |
| 23:32.56 | synic | python++ |
| 23:33.00 | Keighvin | It's easy to get a fast, satisfying visual reaction out of loosely typed stuff, but it's nearly impossible to use it well unless you have better exposure to the underlying principles at a practical level. |
| 23:33.06 | Keighvin | C would be good, yeah. |
| 23:34.19 | levi | C would be good if your intention was to spend a lot of time chasing down segfaults, memory leaks, and rewriting linked-list implementations. |
| 23:34.33 | Keighvin | Only if you write C like levi. |
| 23:34.37 | maquis | Shadowwire: i like C |
| 23:35.16 | maquis | java has some of the advantages of C, but is a bit higher-level (avoid memory management), and a ton more verbose (not always good) |
| 23:35.26 | levi | Well, if you wrote C like I did when I first started learning it. |
| 23:36.01 | levi | Or, like most people do when they first start learning it, especially if it's one of their first programming languages. |
| 23:36.04 | Keighvin | C definitely has its place. I wouldn't use it for most of the stuff I do on a day-to-day basis, but the other languages I *do* use are much better because I know it. |
| 23:36.37 | Keighvin | Unlike certain online merchandising retailers who operate out of Utah and happen to use C to program their web applications. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. |
| 23:36.38 | maquis | as far as scripting languages, if you want to play with one of those first, i'm really interested in ruby |
| 23:36.42 | levi | Well, sure, it has a place, but only because it's ubiquitous. |
| 23:36.57 | maquis | i havent really played with it much yet, but the little i've seen has been amazing |
| 23:36.59 | levi | Keighvin: Who does that? |
| 23:37.01 | synic | I had to go back to learn C after I had learned some other languages. It just pissed me off at first. |
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| 23:37.20 | Jayce^ | levi, overstock, Keighvin's favorite old job |
| 23:37.25 | levi | Heh. |
| 23:38.28 | levi | I wrote a simple web server and an associated simple application in the last month or so. In C. Definitely not a great fit. |
| 23:38.35 | Keighvin | You're lucky I broke my sword. |
| 23:40.23 | levi | On the other hand, my choices were C, C++, and bash. |
| 23:45.59 | Shadowwire | My experiance with programing so far... I installed Python, and tried to run a program I wrote, and found out I needed to get something seperate to either compile or run the program. |
| 23:46.27 | Shadowwire | then I wrote a simple program in PHP and found that I needed to install Appache web server. |
| 23:46.28 | Keighvin | That's a very frequent development experience, new or otherwise. |
| 23:47.03 | Shadowwire | Then I installed blodshed C++ and it has this nice little button to compile. |
| 23:47.26 | Supaplex | ~nice little buttons+ |
| 23:47.27 | ibot | ACTION lowers little buttons+'s priority |
| 23:47.30 | Supaplex | ~nice little buttons++ |
| 23:47.31 | ibot | ACTION lowers little buttons++'s priority |
| 23:47.37 | Supaplex | heh |
| 23:50.18 | Shadowwire | like I said, Im not a programer. I would like to learn how to program, but apparently I need to learn some other things first. |
| 23:50.36 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin fozzmoo |
| 23:50.36 | ibot | onjoin for fozzmoo set by vontrapp on Mon Dec 3 18:58:31 2007: .__ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ _ | \/ |/ _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \| | | |\/| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| |_| |_| |_|\___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ ... |
| 23:50.45 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin -fozzmoo |
| 23:50.45 | ibot | goozbach: ok |
| 23:50.58 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin fozzmoo |
| 23:51.06 | goozbach | that's a nasty onjoin |
| 23:51.10 | levi | Shadowwire: Well, I gave you my suggestions on how to learn to program, but you didn't take them. |
| 23:51.14 | goozbach | ~punish vontrapp |
| 23:51.14 | ibot | ACTION forces vontrapp to install and use Windows |
| 23:51.22 | goozbach | ha! take that! |
| 23:51.29 | synic | ibot: onjoin -synic |
| 23:51.29 | ibot | synic: ok |
| 23:53.20 | Shadowwire | levi: If I recall, you pointed me to some very nice sites on programing and even a tutorial or two. |
| 23:53.25 | Shadowwire | I apreciate that. |
| 23:54.26 | levi | Well, my primary suggestion was to download DrScheme and follow the How To Design Programs book. |
| 23:54.40 | maquis | urgh |
| 23:55.08 | levi | maquis: You were already brainwashed by C and unwilling to give Scheme a chance. |
| 23:55.36 | Shadowwire | Is there anyone here who wasnt frustrated while learning they're prefered programing language at one point or annother? |
| 23:56.02 | Keighvin | I highly doubt it. |
| 23:56.07 | tensai | donald knuth |
| 23:56.31 | *** part/#utah pelaofeliz (n=PelaoFel@67.108.236.230) |
| 23:56.38 | klys | knuth is famous for writing about solving mathmatical problems with algorithmic programming |
| 23:56.50 | levi | I'm sure Donald Knuth has had moments of frustration. |
| 23:56.51 | Shadowwire | Thats it, that last comment (donald knuth) just pushed me over the edge! |
| 23:57.21 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 23:57.21 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:57.23 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 23:57.24 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:57.25 | Shadowwire | -roulette |
| 23:57.25 | brac | Shadowwire: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 23:58.00 | levi | It would take a pretty unique person to succesfully use tAoCP as an introductory text on programming. |
| 23:58.47 | klys | shadowwire: how's work |
| 23:59.25 | Shadowwire | klys: not bad. |