| 00:00.47 | findlay | mrpull: he's been watching me somehow :) |
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| 00:03.57 | bonez44 | I have two identical machines...one at home, one at work....both have etch running..and both have java runtime environment 1.5 installed a la > java version "1.5.0_10" |
| 00:04.07 | findlay | ~dict truism |
| 00:04.35 | dmdavis | ~dict pliant |
| 00:04.46 | bonez44 | the problem I run into is the machine at home disallows running some applications, when loading through iceweasel..telling me I need to install JRE....and yet it's installed....what might cause this? |
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| 00:12.39 | bonez44 | exit |
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| 00:20.33 | findlay | mrpull: I think my problem is that I know about lots of stuff and whenever I meet somebody who may have knowledge/experience in one of my interest areas I immediately unload on them hoping to get a good conversation or debate (even better) going and actually learn something |
| 00:20.59 | findlay | to a lot of people this has the effect of making me look *much* smarter than I really am |
| 00:21.18 | mrpull | findlay: don't worry. I know much better ;0) |
| 00:21.40 | findlay | thanks mrpull, truly |
| 00:22.50 | mrpull | I thought you were looking for an argument |
| 00:23.10 | mrpull | it's past quitting time... |
| 00:23.14 | mrpull | later all! |
| 00:23.54 | findlay | I'm all out |
| 00:24.03 | findlay | need to get some more at the store |
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| 00:26.39 | sontek | any of you guys good with find? I need to say 'get all *.cs files recursively, but ignore any in these directories..." |
| 00:27.17 | elg | find . -name '*.cs' | grep -v foo |
| 00:27.30 | elg | you can get as creative with the grep expression as you need |
| 00:28.05 | sontek | but I have an -exec on there too, I guess I could pipe it to the command instead |
| 00:29.05 | elg | well you could do more than one -name, with a negation |
| 00:29.20 | synic | |xargs -i {} |
| 00:29.59 | elg | xargs without -0 is like sprintf instead of snprintf |
| 00:30.12 | synic | -0 eh? |
| 00:30.12 | brac | don't ask me |
| 00:30.21 | elg | and -print0 on the find side |
| 00:32.15 | elg | For example, to skip the |
| 00:32.15 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.15 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.15 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.15 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.38 | elg | so many ways to do it |
| 00:33.08 | sontek | elg: but how would you do it for multiple directories? |
| 00:33.17 | elg | wholename is a pattern |
| 00:33.52 | elg | or, use -a and -o and () as needed |
| 00:33.53 | findlay | or just use the deep magic that isperl's find, ha ha ha! |
| 00:34.01 | findlay | s/is/is / |
| 00:40.49 | sontek | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.56 | sontek | thats what i'm trying, but the xargs isn't working |
| 00:41.39 | elg | you need print0 |
| 00:41.45 | elg | but I dno't know if that will work with grep in there too |
| 00:42.00 | elg | you need -Z for grep then |
| 00:42.10 | sontek | whats the -Z? |
| 00:42.24 | elg | ha, just kidding. you need -z |
| 00:43.08 | Shadowwire | Zoro! |
| 00:43.08 | findlay | should work |
| 00:43.15 | elg | so find -name '*.cs' | grep -zEv '...' | xargs -0 ... |
| 00:44.39 | findlay | won't the nulls pass transparently through the grep? |
| 00:45.02 | sontek | that didn't work either, didn't give any output though |
| 00:45.06 | elg | yeah, but grep will see it as all one big line |
| 00:45.20 | findlay | oh |
| 00:45.30 | elg | oh, I forgot print0 |
| 00:45.32 | Supaplex | if you're sure there are no \n's in your filenames, consider dropping -0, and use tr '\n' '\0' | xargs ... |
| 00:45.42 | elg | find -name '*.cs' -print0 | grep -zEv '...' | xargs -0 ... |
| 00:45.44 | Supaplex | s/-0/print0/ |
| 00:46.07 | elg | well, if you're going to go line based it's better to use the more flexible idiom: |
| 00:46.23 | Supaplex | but grep -z is a better alterniatve :) |
| 00:46.25 | elg | find -name '*.cs' | grep -Ev '...' | while read i ; do ... "$i" ; done |
| 00:47.25 | elg | and if this is just a one-time thing, one can find -name '*.cs' > /tmp/foo; vim /tmp/foo; while read i; do ... "$i"; done < /tmp/foo |
| 00:54.06 | levi | Good evening. |
| 01:05.15 | findlay | good evening levi |
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| 01:42.31 | findlay | ooooohhhhh |
| 01:46.03 | Supaplex | ahhhaaaahhAAHHCCHHøøøøøøøøøøÃoo¸!! |
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| 05:29.22 | sargun-palm | nick |
| 05:29.37 | sargun-palm | where is gooz. |
| 05:29.46 | sargun-palm | slaving away. |
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| 05:31.09 | sargun-palm | gooz is slaving away now. |
| 05:31.28 | sargun-palm | he has become a slave of the collective. |
| 05:32.14 | sargun-palm | let him escape with his soul unscathed, god help him |
| 05:32.36 | sargun-palm | ppke |
| 05:32.44 | sargun-palm | where is everyome |
| 05:32.49 | sargun-palm | its friday night. |
| 05:33.09 | sargun-palm | you should be enjoying IRC |
| 05:34.07 | sargun-palm | are you guys wasting away at some sort of social activite |
| 05:34.07 | sargun-palm | s |
| 05:34.14 | nick125 | mm |
| 05:34.17 | sargun-palm | ~ping |
| 05:34.17 | ibot | pong |
| 05:34.30 | sargun-palm | jsmith: why don't you sleep on the plane. |
| 05:34.46 | jsmith | sargun-palm: I *always* sleep on the plane... but this is only a 90 minute flight |
| 05:34.54 | sargun-palm | ah |
| 05:35.04 | sargun-palm | end points? hops, |
| 05:35.08 | sargun-palm | er, hops? |
| 05:35.13 | jsmith | Direct flight |
| 05:35.17 | jsmith | HSV to DCA |
| 05:35.20 | mrpull-lt | i've gotten free firstclass upgrades on my last several flights |
| 05:35.20 | sargun-palm | cool. |
| 05:35.30 | jsmith | mrpull-lt: As have I ;-) |
| 05:35.32 | mrpull-lt | and next week i'm on lousy southwest |
| 05:35.53 | sargun-palm | southwest isn't that bad. |
| 05:35.55 | nick125 | I need to get some XBees... |
| 05:36.01 | sargun-palm | zbees? |
| 05:36.11 | nick125 | wireless modules |
| 05:36.28 | nick125 | Ugh, Qwest really needs to fix their crap. |
| 05:36.35 | sargun-palm | zigbees |
| 05:36.49 | nick125 | yah |
| 05:37.00 | sargun-palm | nick125: my isp is willing to give me 100 mbit/sec for like 10 million dollars! |
| 05:37.26 | nick125 | sargun-palm: And you can move into a datacenter for cheaper. |
| 05:37.55 | sargun-palm | well, really they are willing to drop some oc-192s for 4.9mill |
| 05:38.20 | nick125 | You can build your own datacenter for less :p |
| 05:38.21 | sargun-palm | nick: didn't we calculate how much it costs to live in a datacenter |
| 05:38.24 | mrpull-lt | sargun-palm: wtf would you waste their time asking for $5MM in pipes? |
| 05:38.38 | sargun-palm | we got the pricing from he.net. |
| 05:38.52 | sargun-palm | mr: new pipes |
| 05:39.06 | sargun-palm | I asked them for a point-to-point t3. |
| 05:39.33 | sargun-palm | they ccame back with location a- their noc-location b |
| 05:39.50 | sargun-palm | their noc is 200 miles away from each location |
| 05:40.19 | mrpull-lt | and you are trying to stretch it to your home? |
| 05:40.50 | sargun-palm | t3 from remote location to office |
| 05:40.58 | nick125 | sargun-palm: I wonder how much it'd cost to run tin cans and string .. |
| 05:41.09 | sargun-palm | my ilec said 500 a month |
| 05:41.16 | sargun-palm | I'm afraid of my ilec |
| 05:41.27 | nick125 | $500 for tin cans and a string? |
| 05:41.37 | sargun-palm | but not a real t3. |
| 05:41.41 | mrpull-lt | 500 a month for a DS3 sounds fantastic |
| 05:42.03 | nick125 | sargun-palm: It's a fake t3? |
| 05:42.14 | sargun-palm | yeah. it is. but they are charging per mac, etc. |
| 05:42.21 | sargun-palm | nick: basically. |
| 05:43.15 | sargun-palm | its 100base-t ethernet at each location which runs to an outside att repeater |
| 05:43.32 | sargun-palm | which punches down to a local pipe. |
| 05:44.03 | sargun-palm | can't actually send ulaw/alaw straight over. |
| 05:44.22 | mrpull-lt | Qwest offers metro area Ethernet in the salt lake area |
| 05:44.34 | mrpull-lt | it is cheap and fast |
| 05:44.37 | sargun-palm | and I'd have to buy their crappy termination devices |
| 05:44.45 | mrpull-lt | but you've gotta have glass to your buildings |
| 05:45.19 | sargun-palm | mr: yeah, att doesn't sell fiber to people my size directly |
| 05:46.07 | sargun-palm | well, that's not true, for people my size their ptp fiber services SUCK |
| 05:46.13 | mrpull-lt | what are you? about 5'7"? |
| 05:46.32 | sargun-palm | lol |
| 05:46.48 | nick125 | I never heard of an ISP discriminating based on size |
| 05:47.00 | mrpull-lt | they will if you dont have good credit |
| 05:47.34 | sargun-palm | and then they rate limit their ptp fiber |
| 05:47.38 | sargun-palm | which is total BS. |
| 05:47.56 | nick125 | They probably run a comcast-like infrastructure.. |
| 05:48.05 | nick125 | sell 300 6-8mbit pipes and supply it with 32mbit of bandwidth |
| 05:48.42 | sargun-palm | Its att, they are aholes |
| 05:48.48 | mrpull-lt | Q-MOE is literally long distance Ethernet |
| 05:49.13 | mrpull-lt | it terminates in common cisco switches (6509s) |
| 05:49.25 | sargun-palm | distance from loca-locb via DC is 21k feet |
| 05:49.45 | nick125 | I hope that Qwest's ethernet service is more reliable than their phone service. |
| 05:50.23 | sargun-palm | er, via co. |
| 05:51.44 | sargun-palm | plain copper is $960/month (24 channels) |
| 05:51.46 | sargun-palm | maybe ill do that |
| 05:52.55 | sargun-palm | 840 if I use full duplex digital (24 pair isdn) |
| 05:53.54 | mrpull-lt | they dont SLA it but it has been 100% up for everyone I know that uses it |
| 05:54.22 | sargun-palm | I can get straight copper for 50 a month. (1k setup) |
| 05:54.31 | sargun-palm | but dsl won't reach to 21k feet |
| 05:54.48 | sargun-palm | or anything else that will go over plain copper |
| 05:54.51 | nick125 | I wonder if Qwest offers any kind of DSL services with an uptime SLA.. |
| 05:54.51 | sargun-palm | mrpull: any rhoughts |
| 05:54.59 | sargun-palm | nick: they do. |
| 05:55.29 | sargun-palm | they used to have an sla for idsl, not sure if they still offer that. |
| 05:55.35 | sargun-palm | they do on sdsl |
| 05:55.51 | mrpull-lt | i'm not aware, but i've never shopped for it |
| 05:56.51 | nick125 | Maybe if I got an SLA'ed line, I might actually make money on my DSL line! |
| 05:56.56 | sargun-palm | hm. |
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| 05:57.12 | Lakshmi | GUESS WHO IS HERE!!!!!!!!? |
| 05:57.38 | Lakshmi | its me!!!!! |
| 05:57.46 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: sup? |
| 05:57.50 | Lakshmi | hi nick125 |
| 05:58.54 | nick125 | sargun-palm: you still show up in the name list, silly |
| 05:59.24 | Lakshmi | exactly |
| 05:59.35 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm is a silly |
| 05:59.42 | Lakshmi | arent you sargun-palm ? |
| 05:59.47 | Lakshmi | ooh guess what i got?! |
| 05:59.53 | sargun-palm | what? |
| 06:00.05 | Lakshmi | its a surprise |
| 06:00.21 | nick125 | Lakshmi: Lemme guess, you bought sargun-palm a DS3 for christmas? |
| 06:00.51 | Lakshmi | uhh nick125 am i really that nice? |
| 06:01.20 | nick125 | Lakshmi: Okay, you're standing outside of sargun-palm's house with a can of gas and some matches? |
| 06:01.25 | Lakshmi | nick125 what did you get sargun-palm ? |
| 06:01.31 | Lakshmi | nick125: more of my style |
| 06:01.44 | Lakshmi | but why would i be at his house? |
| 06:01.52 | Lakshmi | couldnt i jus go to his room and get his computer? |
| 06:01.55 | nick125 | Lakshmi: I think I might send him a digital download of Gentoo for christmas |
| 06:01.58 | Lakshmi | and light tht on fire? |
| 06:02.08 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: what are u getting nick125 ? |
| 06:02.12 | sargun-palm | haha |
| 06:02.15 | sargun-palm | uh |
| 06:03.09 | sargun-palm | dd if=/dev/urandom of=present-for-nick125 bs=1024k count=$RANDOM |
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| 06:03.14 | sargun-palm | its a surprise |
| 06:03.53 | nick125 | aw, a 10-99GB file of /dev/urandom, I've always wanted one! |
| 06:05.28 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: what bout me?! |
| 06:05.31 | Lakshmi | what do i get?! |
| 06:05.36 | Lakshmi | what did u get me today!! |
| 06:05.37 | sargun-palm | lol |
| 06:05.38 | Lakshmi | ? |
| 06:05.56 | sargun-palm | it could be the source to windows. |
| 06:06.42 | mrpull-lt | i didn't expect the Jazz would beat the Lakers by 20 w/o Boozer and Memo |
| 06:06.55 | Lakshmi | i wanna know how the sharks are doing |
| 06:07.03 | findlay | ~sharks |
| 06:07.05 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: i didnt get anything? |
| 06:07.09 | Supaplex | ~seen december |
| 06:07.11 | ibot | december <december@202-74-209-94.ue.woosh.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 1026d 9h 27m 50s ago, saying: 'found the source files. do I want jk1.2 or jk2.0 with apache2 and tomcat5.5.7?'. |
| 06:08.25 | findlay | ~seen yesterday |
| 06:08.26 | ibot | yesterday <~t00r@218-160-73-67.dynamic.hinet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 912d 13h 14m 10s ago, saying: '!dict ggyykkgg'. |
| 06:08.43 | findlay | ~seen dude |
| 06:08.44 | ibot | dude <n=dude@c-67-171-246-80.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 17d 7h 48m 13s ago, saying: 'Myth- Yeah I fixed it. '. |
| 06:09.59 | Supaplex | ~seen /dev/null |
| 06:10.00 | ibot | i haven't seen '/dev/null', Supaplex |
| 06:10.08 | findlay | ~seen anything |
| 06:10.09 | ibot | i haven't seen 'anything', findlay |
| 06:10.35 | Supaplex | ~seen findlaySane |
| 06:10.36 | ibot | Supaplex: i haven't seen 'findlaysane' |
| 06:10.43 | nick125 | ~seen nothing |
| 06:10.44 | ibot | nothing <n=dwayne@64-42-247-120.mb.skyweb.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 274d 9h 19m 32s ago, saying: 'is there a reason why i don't have a /dev/dsp file?'. |
| 06:10.48 | Lakshmi | ~seen me |
| 06:10.49 | ibot | me <i=40eb4aa4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-f9102c74a454c3b2> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 16d 12h 50m 5s ago, saying: 'this is annoying'. |
| 06:11.02 | Lakshmi | dude theres a nick for everyone! |
| 06:11.17 | itall | now you've seen itall. |
| 06:12.15 | Supaplex | ~seen web-2-0 |
| 06:12.16 | ibot | i haven't seen 'web-2-0', Supaplex |
| 06:12.31 | Supaplex | well I have, and now I have an upgrade. Supaplex-2-O. |
| 06:12.49 | findlay | -chat Supaplex |
| 06:12.49 | brac | Supaplex did |
| 06:12.54 | findlay | -chat Supaplex-2-O |
| 06:12.54 | brac | Supaplex-2-O did |
| 06:12.58 | findlay | -chat |
| 06:12.59 | brac | SSH r00tki7:bring_em_down@myspace.com "nice -n -20 /havoc.sh" |
| 06:13.04 | findlay | yay |
| 06:13.17 | Supaplex | fun |
| 06:13.24 | findlay | hehe |
| 06:21.11 | findlay | -chat |
| 06:21.13 | brac | lartc is unfortunately real |
| 06:21.19 | findlay | -chat yesterday |
| 06:21.20 | brac | yesterday did |
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| 06:41.06 | tensai | ~Jayce^++ |
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| 06:49.12 | findlay | ~lart yesterday |
| 06:49.12 | ibot | whacks yesterday with a giant beaver's tail |
| 06:49.25 | findlay | oh, it's not yesterday yet |
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| 06:51.32 | brac | [~ |
| 06:51.32 | brac | ~say Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you. |
| 06:51.33 | ibot | Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you. |
| 06:51.33 | brac | ~] |
| 06:51.49 | findlay | ha, Sargun never commits |
| 07:00.38 | Supaplex | http://armada.daxal.com/~supaplex/yd.html just might do what I think it does. ouu look, a cute bracy whitespace bug. :) |
| 07:00.51 | Supaplex | ~lart yesterday |
| 07:00.51 | ibot | blames yesterday for all the evil in the world |
| 07:01.00 | findlay | yay |
| 07:01.04 | Supaplex | ~lart Nov |
| 07:01.04 | ibot | crushes Nov with a full height scsi disk |
| 07:01.09 | Supaplex | ~welcome Dec |
| 07:01.10 | ibot | [all in unison] Hi, Dec! |
| 07:01.12 | findlay | Devember time! |
| 07:01.20 | findlay | s/v/c/ |
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| 07:25.29 | tensai | it's so quiet at night |
| 07:25.45 | tensai | no crying kids. that's what I like the most. |
| 07:30.09 | Sargun | uh |
| 07:30.17 | Sargun | What did you do with them? |
| 07:32.35 | Lakshmi | uh tensai ate them |
| 07:32.46 | Lakshmi | sargun so do u like my gift! |
| 07:32.46 | Lakshmi | ? |
| 07:32.49 | tensai | put them to sleep, duh |
| 07:39.12 | Sargun | Oh. |
| 07:39.13 | Sargun | How? |
| 07:47.30 | Supaplex | I've been awake since last month. I think I'll go to bed now. |
| 07:47.36 | Supaplex | nite! :P |
| 07:56.11 | findlay | Sargun and Lakshmi are still up tensai, though I don't know if they're crying :) |
| 07:56.28 | Lakshmi | lakshmi is an adult. |
| 07:56.35 | Lakshmi | thank you verry much |
| 07:56.40 | findlay | r u sure? |
| 07:56.44 | Lakshmi | sarguns still up though |
| 07:56.51 | Lakshmi | heh yeah |
| 07:56.57 | findlay | k |
| 07:57.05 | Sargun | What? |
| 07:57.17 | findlay | ~what |
| 07:57.36 | findlay | ooh, secret easter egg |
| 07:58.20 | Lakshmi | what? |
| 07:58.31 | Lakshmi | sargun, findlay thinks your a baby |
| 07:59.40 | findlay | actually my allusion was more directly characterized by 'kid' |
| 07:59.56 | findlay | which is more lamb- or goat-like than 'baby' |
| 08:00.17 | findlay | silly words |
| 08:00.32 | findlay | don't people realize we don't need words? |
| 08:01.28 | findlay | nearly everything in the observable Universe is contained within (and largely closed under) addition |
| 08:08.45 | findlay | I guess |
| 08:09.16 | findlay | losing health units. Must sleep. |
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| 17:34.33 | encryptz | meh |
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| 17:44.31 | tensai | what is it with samba-common? why have I upgraded that packet 4 times this week? |
| 17:45.22 | fozzmoo | Because you're a responsible Linux user. :) |
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| 17:47.50 | tensai | I installed revisions 6etch5, 6etch6, 6etch7 and now 6etch8. are there that many security bugs or are they just not fixing it right? |
| 17:49.47 | tensai | "Fix for yet another regression in the fix for CVE-2007-4572" |
| 17:50.00 | elg | http://foton.fugal.net/album/85 |
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| 17:51.05 | tensai | elg: yours? |
| 17:52.08 | elg | ya |
| 17:52.30 | tensai | congrats. didn't even know you were pregnant. |
| 17:54.08 | tensai | since I'm complaining, let me whine about sales reps who cold call you, don't listen when you say you don't have any redhat servers and then call you "John" in their form email telling you about their product for redhat servers |
| 17:55.39 | elg | 3.86kg and 49.5cm |
| 17:56.32 | tensai | that's a big baby |
| 17:56.56 | elg | yup. not as big as #1 though |
| 17:57.29 | elg | he was 4.2kg and 52 or 53 cm |
| 17:57.36 | tensai | I don't think either of mine were over 3 kilos. maybe the second one by a bit. |
| 17:59.02 | elg | can't decide what to name him though |
| 17:59.08 | elg | erin doesn't like throz for some reasn |
| 17:59.20 | tensai | trogdor |
| 17:59.48 | tensai | try to sneak it in. Trog Dor Fugal. |
| 17:59.59 | elg | that's not a bad idea |
| 18:00.22 | elg | erin likes kristoffer, but I'm not too keen on it. I like johann, but she's not too keen on that |
| 18:03.32 | fozzmoo | Johoffer. |
| 18:06.19 | tensai | Google Bugle Fugal |
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| 18:40.30 | elg | so flightgear is getting ready to release a new release (finally) |
| 18:40.37 | elg | and the next in line is 0.9.11 |
| 18:40.51 | elg | wait for it... |
| 18:41.17 | elg | there's debate on skipping 0.9.11 |
| 18:41.38 | elg | out of respect. am I the only one that thinks that is disrespectful? |
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| 19:30.22 | herlo | ~lart sjansen |
| 19:30.23 | ibot | squishes sjansen like a bug |
| 20:35.44 | Sargun | Where is my Linux alien? |
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| 21:48.36 | bbeattie | RyanE: Around? |
| 21:58.50 | bbeattie | 'lo |
| 21:59.11 | vontrapp | i think it's silly |
| 21:59.49 | bbeattie | I've got my own asterisk box up now, how's vitelity for a provider? |
| 21:59.50 | vontrapp | neither respectful nor disrespectful |
| 21:59.58 | vontrapp | at least, having said release is neither |
| 22:00.09 | vontrapp | skipping that number is certainly not "respectful" |
| 22:00.48 | vontrapp | are we just going to skip that day now every september? cross it out on our calendar? come up with some new number eleventeen to avoid the respect issue? |
| 22:02.54 | nick125 | bbeattie: I have vitelity and it's been working fine for me. |
| 22:02.55 | jsmith | bbeattie: I haven't used them |
| 22:04.06 | bbeattie | not bad rates, I just wonder what the difference between the 7.50/mo unlimited, 1.50/1.4c (A), and 1.50/1.6c (B) is... |
| 22:04.33 | nick125 | bbeattie: The 7.50 is for unlimited inbound, the A is for the A tier, and the B is for the B tier |
| 22:05.18 | bbeattie | I couldn't find an explanation of tier a vs b on their site, did I miss it? |
| 22:05.51 | nick125 | bbeattie: It's based on location. |
| 22:06.15 | nick125 | Most locations are tier A, while some are tier B. |
| 22:06.21 | nick125 | The only difference is the cost per minute |
| 22:07.14 | bbeattie | so major cities are likely to be tier a and outlands are b.. that makes sense, I didn't know if that depended on where people called in from or where you lived. |
| 22:07.32 | nick125 | It depends on where the DID originates from. |
| 22:07.47 | nick125 | and the rate center it originates from. |
| 22:08.12 | bbeattie | makes sense.. |
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| 22:32.45 | sargun-palm | hey all |
| 22:32.46 | sargun-palm | anyone here |
| 22:34.50 | findlay | I'm here! |
| 22:35.11 | sargun-palm | your findlay, nobody cares! :-P |
| 22:35.26 | findlay | aw :( |
| 22:35.40 | findlay | but I know everything |
| 22:35.52 | findlay | what more could you want? |
| 22:36.03 | sargun-palm | what don't you know? |
| 22:36.28 | findlay | let me think |
| 22:36.42 | findlay | I haven't read the complete works of Voltaire |
| 22:39.34 | findlay | but I have heard the overture by Bernstein, ha! |
| 22:40.23 | findlay | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candide_%28operetta%29 |
| 22:40.56 | findlay | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overture_to_Candide |
| 22:41.17 | findlay | great music |
| 22:42.59 | sargun-palm | gah |
| 22:42.59 | sargun-palm | I'm tired |
| 22:48.28 | findlay | ~tire Sargun |
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