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| 00:36.26 | atoponce | ~ojoin fozzmoo |
| 00:36.39 | atoponce | ~onjoin fozzmoo |
| 00:36.39 | ibot | onjoin for fozzmoo set by tensai on Wed Oct 31 10:09:15 2007: MOOOOO! |
| 00:36.54 | atoponce | heh. i know it's older than that |
| 00:38.53 | fozzmoo | atoponce: You got a problem? :) |
| 00:39.11 | atoponce | noooope |
| 00:39.14 | atoponce | :) |
| 00:43.02 | herlo | atoponce: its a per channel thing you know |
| 00:43.46 | atoponce | yes, but that's been set in here for as long as i've been in the channel, and that's a couple years |
| 00:44.18 | fozzmoo | Tensai was playing around with it. |
| 00:44.34 | atoponce | ~onjoin fozzmoo MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 00:44.34 | ibot | ok, atoponce |
| 00:45.02 | fozzmoo | great. |
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| 02:16.52 | Lakshmi | i know |
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| 02:36.36 | vontrapp | how does pcclub do so many rebates? |
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| 02:52.19 | herlo | my thoughts are that I'm going go be evaluating Fedora v Ubuntu v SUSE on specific features |
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| 03:26.01 | Lakshmi | ]If the inflation rate in Peru rises significantly above that in the United States, what happens to the nominal exchange rate between the U.S. dollar and the Peruvian new sol? |
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| 04:05.34 | findlay | man, I'm like the worst FHE dad of all time |
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| 04:49.26 | Other^Migs^ | omg, Heroes = snorefest |
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| 04:57.36 | Lakshmi | i know im soo cool! |
| 04:57.37 | findlay | ~miss Lakshmi |
| 04:57.37 | ibot | ACTION whips a six shooter from her hip and fires just to the right of Lakshmi. |
| 04:57.38 | Lakshmi | whats up ppl? |
| 04:58.26 | herlo | ~fart Lakshmi |
| 04:58.27 | ibot | ACTION farts in Lakshmi's general direction |
| 04:58.31 | findlay | it's homework time |
| 04:58.36 | Lakshmi | :-/ |
| 04:58.38 | Lakshmi | i know |
| 04:58.45 | Lakshmi | does irc have a channel for everything!? |
| 04:59.04 | Other^Migs^ | heh |
| 04:59.06 | findlay | yes |
| 05:00.19 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: and if it doesn't, it will when you create it. |
| 05:00.40 | fozzmoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.49 | fozzmoo | Bam! It's there. |
| 05:00.55 | findlay | there's fozzmoo, always being helpful |
| 05:01.12 | herlo | fozzmoo: green? green!? |
| 05:01.23 | Lakshmi | haha! |
| 05:01.28 | fozzmoo | herlo: Environmentally concious underwear. |
| 05:01.39 | herlo | fozzmoo: thank you for making my point |
| 05:01.49 | herlo | :^) |
| 05:01.53 | fozzmoo | Cuz, you know... we're all gonna die unless we dye everything green. |
| 05:02.00 | herlo | haha |
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| 05:03.12 | bonez44 | I have two linux boxen at work..one, has port 22 forwarded to it...allowing me to ssh directly...the other box is running etch...and in the past, I have been able, either locally or remotely, to 'ssh ip.of.other.machine' to connect to it.. |
| 05:03.41 | bonez44 | tonight though, I can't ssh to it...after ssh'ing to the primary box...is the because I likely do not have sshd running on the seconary machine? |
| 05:08.30 | bonez44 | shhhhhh |
| 05:08.37 | bonez44 | er..ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 05:09.17 | vontrapp | maybe, do you get "connection refused"? |
| 05:10.41 | bonez44 | yes, ssh: connect to host 192.x.x.x port 22: Connection refused |
| 05:11.10 | bonez44 | I know I am entering the correct IP...as I specifically checked it before coming home this evening |
| 05:11.17 | bonez44 | the IP for secondary box |
| 05:12.18 | bonez44 | I recently reformatted, reinstalled etch from a newly burned CD...and had hoped to set up more stuff on it...working remotely from home tonight |
| 05:12.38 | bonez44 | I assumed that sshd would be installed and started, but it may not have installed and run by default |
| 05:13.17 | bonez44 | I might run back there..and make sure sshd IS running...and then come back home |
| 05:16.13 | vontrapp | yeah, apt-get install ssh |
| 05:17.22 | bonez44 | ok.... |
| 05:17.23 | fozzmoo | Is that how Debian is? |
| 05:17.35 | bonez44 | fozzmoo: not sure.... |
| 05:17.41 | dmdavis | in gentoo, you have to explicitely install/turn on sshd |
| 05:18.10 | tensai | debian doesn't install sshd by default. once you install the ssh server, it will be on. |
| 05:18.29 | bonez44 | tensai: I can see the security wisdom in NOT having it on by default |
| 05:18.43 | tensai | package openssh-server |
| 05:18.49 | fozzmoo | I appreciate that sshd is one of the things Fedora/RH/CentOS installs and enables by default... |
| 05:19.03 | fozzmoo | but there sure are a lot of other things I wish weren't installed/enabled by default. |
| 05:19.17 | fozzmoo | Not as bad as SUSE tho, in that regard. |
| 05:19.24 | herlo | :) |
| 05:19.24 | tensai | debian has echo and discard on by default. how silly. |
| 05:20.34 | herlo | my thoughts are that I'm going go be evaluating Fedora v Ubuntu v SUSE on specific features\ |
| 05:21.00 | findlay | pro wrestling |
| 05:28.18 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo what have u been upto lately? |
| 05:33.01 | findlay | ~seen beandog |
| 05:33.02 | ibot | beandog <n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 4h 28m 17s ago, saying: '750gb for $150'. |
| 05:52.02 | Other^Migs^ | I hooked up my piano to Icecast. Playing right now: http://205.122.40.32:8000/jreeve |
| 05:52.09 | Other^Migs^ | this is neat |
| 05:52.52 | bonez44 | is that your playing the piano? |
| 05:53.00 | bonez44 | I am listening...sounds great... |
| 05:53.04 | Other^Migs^ | haha yeah |
| 05:53.08 | Other^Migs^ | live performance! |
| 05:53.25 | bonez44 | cool... |
| 05:55.35 | bonez44 | awesome.....I am dying to know what sort of keyboard you are playing.... |
| 05:55.51 | bonez44 | I notice a slight echo there.....it sounds like you are right here.... |
| 05:56.00 | bonez44 | spacious |
| 05:56.09 | Other^Migs^ | It's a Clavinova |
| 05:56.36 | bonez44 | Yamaha? I have something like that.... |
| 05:56.42 | bonez44 | I should hook mine up...... |
| 05:56.58 | Other^Migs^ | that's actually not the keyboard's sound |
| 05:57.50 | Other^Migs^ | it's doing more than just plugging into my laptop with an RCA cable. I actually have Reason open, and it's connected through a USB-MIDI port, then a piano sample is applied, as well as a reverb sample, then it's sent to my audio stream at my work server I'm VPNed into, THEN it's being broadcast |
| 05:57.52 | bonez44 | oh. you strike the notes on your Clavinova...right? |
| 05:58.08 | bonez44 | complex |
| 05:58.17 | Other^Migs^ | that's what makes it cool |
| 05:58.53 | bonez44 | very cool... |
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| 06:00.39 | bonez44 | old Mac Donald..excellent |
| 06:03.23 | bonez44 | oh, where'd the farmer go? |
| 06:03.52 | Other^Migs^ | is it still working? |
| 06:04.31 | bonez44 | no, the sound dropped |
| 06:04.36 | Other^Migs^ | oh hang on |
| 06:04.44 | bonez44 | oh, back on now |
| 06:04.45 | Other^Migs^ | try reconnecting |
| 06:04.46 | bonez44 | yeah |
| 06:04.47 | Other^Migs^ | ok |
| 06:04.51 | bonez44 | I reconnected |
| 06:07.18 | Other^Migs^ | yeah sometimes it cuts out |
| 06:07.21 | Other^Migs^ | not sure why yet |
| 06:07.36 | bonez44 | ok...it's the net.... |
| 06:07.41 | bonez44 | do you do ragtime? |
| 06:07.58 | Other^Migs^ | um |
| 06:08.04 | Other^Migs^ | I used to, about 12 years ago |
| 06:08.12 | Other^Migs^ | now all my songs pretty much just sound alike |
| 06:08.49 | bonez44 | no worry, piano sounds great......... |
| 06:11.33 | Other^Migs^ | messing around with different piano samples now |
| 06:11.59 | bonez44 | it's a great sound.... |
| 06:15.28 | Other^Migs^ | this really isn't the best piano sample unfortunately |
| 06:15.42 | Other^Migs^ | the regular sound from my Clavinova sounds a lot better, but I don't have any decent audio cables here |
| 06:16.04 | bonez44 | I see...I know my piano has a midi interface...I have never plugged it in though |
| 06:16.27 | Other^Migs^ | I didn't really use MIDI too much until I got this thing |
| 06:16.30 | Other^Migs^ | it's awesome |
| 06:16.39 | Other^Migs^ | had it for a couple years now |
| 06:17.06 | findlay | I like Kawai rx-series pianofortes |
| 06:17.10 | bonez44 | so, can I get a cable, that goes from midi, to interface with my sound card..and get started that way? |
| 06:17.27 | findlay | excellent sound, dynamics, and touch |
| 06:18.02 | Other^Migs^ | mine just has a USB port for the MIDI |
| 06:18.06 | Other^Migs^ | hopefully yours does too |
| 06:18.09 | Other^Migs^ | what kind of keyboard do you have? |
| 06:18.18 | Other^Migs^ | my old Alesis keyboard has an old-standard MIDI |
| 06:18.20 | bonez44 | my piano is old...has only midi..round port |
| 06:18.25 | Other^Migs^ | yeah |
| 06:18.32 | Other^Migs^ | you'd need a special MIDI controller for it |
| 06:18.50 | bonez44 | oh, add on midi controller card, eh? |
| 06:21.33 | Other^Migs^ | I think that's what you do, at least |
| 06:21.43 | bonez44 | ok..I'll check it out |
| 06:23.01 | Other^Migs^ | they really shouldn't cost that much |
| 06:23.30 | bonez44 | No, should be reasonable |
| 06:25.09 | bonez44 | that's funny.. |
| 06:26.27 | Other^Migs^ | what is? |
| 06:26.41 | bonez44 | it's cool listening to you play.... |
| 06:26.44 | Other^Migs^ | oh oops, you're still listening, hehe |
| 06:26.46 | Other^Migs^ | I forgot |
| 06:26.54 | Other^Migs^ | I like having an audience |
| 06:26.57 | bonez44 | makes me want to get my keyboard set up...and to get back into playing it |
| 06:26.59 | Other^Migs^ | I'm not that great or anything, but it's fun to play |
| 06:27.08 | bonez44 | fun to play, yes.... |
| 06:27.24 | bonez44 | all the playing is just from your head, right? improv? |
| 06:27.29 | Other^Migs^ | yeah, improv |
| 06:28.08 | bonez44 | cool |
| 06:28.23 | vontrapp | sweet, live music while i install vmware |
| 06:29.09 | Other^Migs^ | there's a web site called jamnow.com which purports to let you play live with other musicians |
| 06:29.30 | Other^Migs^ | not entirely sure how they solve the latency issue, though |
| 06:34.21 | bonez44 | pachelbel... |
| 06:34.35 | bonez44 | canon und gigue....in D moll... |
| 06:36.08 | bonez44 | I used to listen to this...a tape...over and over..in germany...as I lay there on my bed....wondering what I was doing over there..knocking on doors...as a missionary..... |
| 06:37.14 | vontrapp | how come i can't create a virtual machine in vmware anymore? |
| 06:37.46 | bonez44 | you didn't ask nicely...hehehhe |
| 06:37.54 | bonez44 | not sure, never have installed vmware |
| 06:38.26 | Other^Migs^ | pachelbel is awesome to improv |
| 06:38.47 | bonez44 | yeah, it can go on and on forever |
| 06:38.50 | Other^Migs^ | i installed vmware once then promptly uninstalled it |
| 06:40.09 | vontrapp | <3 pachelbel |
| 06:40.42 | Other^Migs^ | what's a cool Christmas song? |
| 06:41.02 | vontrapp | oh holy night |
| 06:41.14 | bonez44 | drummer boy |
| 06:41.22 | vontrapp | what child is this |
| 06:41.36 | vontrapp | god rest ye |
| 06:41.54 | Other^Migs^ | oh i haven't done god rest ye yet |
| 06:42.12 | bonez44 | nice |
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| 06:42.20 | Other^Migs^ | uh |
| 06:42.35 | vontrapp | that was good |
| 06:42.42 | vontrapp | don't stop |
| 06:43.01 | bonez44 | keep going... |
| 06:43.02 | Other^Migs^ | I'm not that great at playing by ear yet |
| 06:43.05 | Other^Migs^ | trying to figure it out |
| 06:43.06 | bonez44 | just plow through.... |
| 06:43.09 | vontrapp | yeah, i hate when that happens |
| 06:43.26 | vontrapp | sometimes you just can't |
| 06:43.35 | bonez44 | vontrapp: you play too? I take it piano or some sort of music was mandatory for you growing up? |
| 06:43.40 | vontrapp | piano |
| 06:43.44 | bonez44 | I know hans plays well... |
| 06:44.06 | vontrapp | haha, semi mandatory |
| 06:44.18 | bonez44 | it's good for ya |
| 06:44.24 | vontrapp | we weren't forced per se, only the occasional time we didn't want to practice |
| 06:44.29 | findlay | pianoforte is fun |
| 06:44.41 | findlay | generic keyboard music is fun generally |
| 06:45.07 | bonez44 | but you hit the threshold eventually where playing became fun and self serving instead of to serve the parent..it becomes fun in itself.. |
| 06:45.10 | findlay | my mom tried to teach all of my brothers and I |
| 06:45.25 | findlay | but we were all slackers and eventually learned anyway |
| 06:45.33 | vontrapp | certainly, then you go to college and it all goes to crap |
| 06:45.53 | bonez44 | naw, you can pick it up where you left off |
| 06:46.12 | vontrapp | yeah, but it does take a bit to dust off |
| 06:46.34 | bonez44 | I am heading to bed, but leaving the music on....play on! |
| 06:46.59 | Other^Migs^ | I'm leaving soon |
| 06:47.05 | Other^Migs^ | meh, I butchered god rest ye |
| 06:47.16 | vontrapp | it has much promise |
| 06:48.14 | bonez44 | was great...despite the creative inserts |
| 06:50.40 | findlay | there ain't no snow to dance in |
| 06:50.58 | vontrapp | findlay: that's the point, it's like a raindance, but for snow |
| 06:51.29 | findlay | vontrapp: you're still there. Now's your chance. Do it for me |
| 06:51.50 | vontrapp | hey, you're the one that moved |
| 06:52.03 | vontrapp | don't pawn off your failed dreams on me |
| 06:52.11 | findlay | aw, c'mon |
| 06:52.23 | findlay | fine |
| 06:55.17 | Other^Migs^ | okay, I'm out |
| 06:55.20 | Other^Migs^ | thanks for listening! |
| 06:55.27 | bonez44 | thanks for sharing it with us |
| 06:55.34 | Other^Migs^ | no no, thank YOU |
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| 06:58.18 | findlay | so, what was with the joker ^Migs^? |
| 06:58.51 | findlay | maybe he was just at home |
| 07:03.54 | findlay | ~weather |
| 07:04.02 | findlay | ~weather kpvu |
| 07:35.21 | findlay | somebody look up my blog site and tell me how it looks: http://72.8.99.158/blog/ |
| 07:35.23 | brac | [Justin's Weblog] |
| 07:35.39 | findlay | I can't seem to get it to work out so well inside the nat |
| 07:46.58 | vontrapp | findlay: you baritone? |
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| 07:48.47 | brac | [~ |
| 07:48.47 | brac | ~say Good day for overcoming obstacles. Try a steeplechase. |
| 07:48.48 | ibot | Good day for overcoming obstacles. Try a steeplechase. |
| 07:48.48 | brac | ~] |
| 07:52.01 | tensai | ~lart findlay for being awake so late |
| 07:52.01 | ibot | wallops findlay with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long for being awake so late |
| 07:52.38 | Sargun | findlay, |
| 07:52.42 | Sargun | findlay, I love you. |
| 07:52.56 | Sargun | No..? |
| 07:53.03 | tensai | I was pretty sure he'd be awake |
| 07:53.09 | Sargun | Me too |
| 07:53.13 | Sargun | maybe he is |
| 07:53.28 | Sargun | Plotting his antilart |
| 07:53.51 | Sargun | Ouch |
| 07:54.02 | Sargun | Corporate Modem? |
| 07:54.04 | Lakshmi | mm |
| 07:54.06 | Sargun | er |
| 07:54.12 | Sargun | Corporate access? |
| 07:54.18 | Sargun | Or Customer? |
| 07:54.55 | tensai | customer modems |
| 07:55.13 | Sargun | Ah. |
| 07:55.21 | tensai | the whole controller card blew up, which meant we not only had to replace it but reflash the firmware and reload the config |
| 07:55.35 | Sargun | Ouch. |
| 07:55.37 | tensai | good thing it's in the middle of nowhere montana |
| 07:55.47 | Sargun | You don't have a good way to failover? |
| 07:56.38 | tensai | this sort of failure is a tough one to avoid. we could have a whole second chassis, but not economically for the number of users in this location |
| 07:57.18 | Sargun | why don't you guys just resell Qwest's access? |
| 07:57.28 | Sargun | Aren't they really cheap for resellers? |
| 07:58.04 | tensai | I don't really know. for one we've been doing this for a long time, longer than qwest I bet. |
| 07:58.25 | Sargun | Whoa |
| 07:58.36 | Sargun | Have you been with the company since they struck ground? |
| 07:58.48 | tensai | no, I was in high school back then |
| 07:59.24 | Sargun | Wow, what musta been a long time ago then |
| 07:59.52 | tensai | 95. I dunno, what do you think. did qwest get on the Internet bandwagon that long ago? |
| 08:00.00 | Sargun | Oh, yeah. |
| 08:00.02 | Sargun | They did |
| 08:00.14 | Sargun | I thought you were in your 30-somethings |
| 08:00.18 | tensai | around here it would have been uswest at that point |
| 08:00.34 | tensai | I am. very early 30s. |
| 08:00.40 | Sargun | I think Qwest bought up 2 very small ISP/ILECs |
| 08:00.55 | Sargun | because they needed to catch up with Sprint (rail) |
| 08:01.14 | tensai | well qwest didn't start until 1996 |
| 08:01.22 | Sargun | yeah |
| 08:22.34 | Sargun | Anyone here run Safari for Windows? |
| 08:26.40 | Lakshmi | is that eve possible? |
| 08:26.40 | Lakshmi | **even |
| 08:29.38 | Lakshmi | test |
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| 14:30.29 | vontrapp | why would a fire/smoke alarm go off every five minutes just for a short time? |
| 14:31.26 | ^Migs^ | I use Safari for Windows |
| 14:31.38 | ^Migs^ | not regularly. Just to test CSS. |
| 14:32.53 | MSC386 | The smoke alarm might have a short. |
| 14:34.48 | vontrapp | what kind of short? it acts completely normal, green light, little blink periodically |
| 14:34.58 | vontrapp | then it screams our ears off |
| 14:35.04 | vontrapp | very rude |
| 14:35.29 | MSC386 | Might have something to do with the sensor circuitry. |
| 14:37.06 | MSC386 | Most smoke alarms nowadays have a photometer (to sense IR Light Levels and hence, smoke), plus a heat sensor. |
| 14:37.56 | MSC386 | There could be something wrong with either one or both. If it continues to go off, disconnect the battery and get a new detector. |
| 14:47.07 | Jayce^ | vontrapp, battery is going low |
| 14:52.40 | vontrapp | no battery, plugs into ac |
| 14:52.46 | vontrapp | it's getting replaced now |
| 14:54.17 | Jayce^ | they should also have an internal battery |
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| 14:54.19 | pjw | ah |
| 14:54.29 | Jayce^ | wb pjw |
| 14:54.47 | pjw | hey |
| 14:57.55 | Jayce^ | worst part of a vacation, coming back to the mailbox |
| 15:01.30 | ^Migs^ | I wish mine had a heat sensor |
| 15:01.35 | ^Migs^ | that seems like the only thing that would matter, really |
| 15:01.50 | ^Migs^ | well, maybe not |
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| 15:02.56 | redbeard2 | ~onjoin redbeard2 cheesecake! |
| 15:02.56 | ibot | ok, redbeard2 |
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| 15:13.01 | tensai | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20071126.html |
| 15:13.02 | brac | [Dilbert Comic Strip Archive - Dilbert.com - The Official Dilbert Website by Scott Adams - Dilbert, Dogbert and Coworkers!] |
| 15:19.36 | Jayce^ | ^Migs^, far from it. With modern carpet materials, most people die from toxic smoke long before flames.. often before flames even form |
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| 15:29.06 | ^Migs^ | yeah, that's true, but it doesn't take long for a house to heat up |
| 15:29.28 | ^Migs^ | heat sensors typically go off at 120 degrees |
| 15:30.04 | ^Migs^ | believe me. I KNOW. I attended a FIRE SAFETY MEETING a few weeks ago so I'm, like, a fire guru now. |
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| 15:47.02 | RyanE | vontrapp: you may also want to carefully vacuum out your smokes. Little critters (spiders, mostly) have been known to inhabit smokes, and they can cause it to trip. |
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| 15:58.07 | thaddeusq | ^Migs^: was your "Fire Safety Meeting" put on by MasterGuard? |
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| 16:02.31 | fozzmoo | What?! Vista has half the performance of XP?! What is that about? |
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| 16:08.52 | Kemotaha | where is that fozz? |
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| 16:20.44 | sontek | Its hard getting back to work after a week vacation |
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| 16:36.25 | bonez39 | anyone know an easier way to get java/jre installed on etch or sarge? |
| 16:37.12 | herlo | bonez39: install fedora? |
| 16:37.55 | Tene | http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/11/what-if-powerful-languages-and-idioms.html |
| 16:37.56 | brac | [What if powerful languages and idioms only work for small teams?] |
| 16:38.40 | bonez39 | herlo: I like debian though...... |
| 16:38.56 | herlo | bonez39: I'm sorry |
| 16:39.11 | herlo | bonez39: I'm sure debian is nice and all... |
| 16:39.11 | Kemotaha | bonez39: I thought etch had a sun-java package? |
| 16:40.15 | bonez39 | Kemotaha: does etch have a sun-java package? |
| 16:41.03 | ^Migs^ | should |
| 16:41.12 | sontek | bonez39: enable the non-free repo? |
| 16:41.20 | sontek | and then just aptitude install |
| 16:41.21 | ^Migs^ | in fact I'm sure it does. I installed it awhile ago. |
| 16:41.32 | bonez39 | sontek: ok.....in sources.list? |
| 16:41.42 | sontek | yeah |
| 16:41.59 | Kemotaha | bonez39: I am not sure but I thought it did |
| 16:44.21 | sontek | ~flog fedora |
| 16:44.22 | ibot | ACTION whips fedora with a cat-5 o' nine tails |
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| 17:11.10 | Tene | Huh, this is interesting... |
| 17:11.13 | Tene | Andy (petdance) Lester is currently trying to do cleanups on the PHP source code. |
| 17:11.17 | Tene | And he's getting very hostile reactions. |
| 17:11.22 | Tene | "Here's a patch that cleans up a bunch of potentially problematic code." |
| 17:11.25 | Tene | "Don't bother, it's a waste of time, we don't care!" |
| 17:14.31 | Jayce^ | Tene, yeah, talked with him about that some back at oscon, was quite interesting |
| 17:15.02 | Jayce^ | a while back he had a post about trying to get some fix for how they tested int length.. |
| 17:15.17 | Tene | Reminds me of the Stefan Esser stuff. |
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| 17:36.10 | ^Migs^ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-pythagora-cat-box.jpg |
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| 17:39.28 | shadowwire | Sup? |
| 17:39.59 | shadowwire | Any suggestions on how to find a device with a duplicate IP? |
| 17:40.29 | shadowwire | Any suggestions on how to find a device with a duplicate IP? |
| 17:40.33 | shadowwire | ops |
| 17:43.19 | Kemotaha | nmap the ip |
| 17:43.30 | Tene | fozzmoo: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/affect-heuristi.html |
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| 17:51.58 | elg | shadowwire: ignition switch |
| 17:56.58 | dmdavis | http://www.diylife.com/2007/11/27/guard-your-home-with-an-automated-paintball-gun/ |
| 17:56.59 | brac | [Guard your home with an automated paintball gun - DIY Life] |
| 17:58.13 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ZwbDj7sQM |
| 17:59.32 | shadowwire | elg: Did you take it in somewhere, or did you figure it out. |
| 18:01.09 | shadowwire | rather, How did you figure it out? |
| 18:06.08 | elg | took it somewhere. fuel treatment didn't help and the car manual says not to do the fuel filter yourself because the fuel line is pressurized |
| 18:06.40 | elg | so I took it to a garage. watched them diagnose it - they played with injecting some cleaner in the air intake and such |
| 18:06.58 | elg | then the guy turning the key noticed the clock would flicker when he let go of the ignition |
| 18:07.43 | fozzmoo | Then what?! THEN WHAT?! |
| 18:09.09 | elg | then we realized that's why the engine was quitting |
| 18:09.36 | elg | they toyed a bit with the ignition switch to verify that it was indeed cutting power to the engine when it shouldn't |
| 18:09.53 | shadowwire | Jolley good! |
| 18:10.08 | fozzmoo | so... new ignition switch? |
| 18:10.24 | fozzmoo | Or just replace it w/ bare wires and electrical tape? |
| 18:11.05 | elg | new expensive ignition switch |
| 18:11.21 | fozzmoo | How expensive? |
| 18:11.32 | fozzmoo | This is in your old Honda, right? |
| 18:11.49 | elg | $147 parts and labor |
| 18:11.54 | shadowwire | not bad. |
| 18:11.58 | elg | no, not too bad |
| 18:12.13 | elg | perhaps a bit steep for an ignition switch but I was prepared for something more severe |
| 18:12.36 | elg | The switch is $67. I might could do it myself but I'd be awful grumpy afterwards |
| 18:12.49 | elg | me and in-cab electrical don't mix. me and my hands are too big |
| 18:13.07 | shadowwire | always expect the worst, you'll never be dissapointed. |
| 18:13.41 | elg | true |
| 18:14.34 | elg | and I have this nagging feeling about the clutch. I let my foot off and sometimes the pedal doesn't come all the way up at first, then will pop up the rest of the way a few seconds later. like it's sticking |
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| 18:15.57 | fozzmoo | Might be a spent spring or something. |
| 18:16.06 | fozzmoo | or just needs some WD40 |
| 18:16.16 | fozzmoo | or a new car around it. :) |
| 18:16.58 | ^Migs^ | http://www.whisher.com |
| 18:17.00 | brac | [Whisher - Building The World's Largest WiFi Network] |
| 18:17.18 | RyanE | I had a similar experience yesterday. Thought the clockspring on the steering wheel of the van had gone bad (again! $$$). Turned out to be a connector under the console had worked loose. $0. |
| 18:18.45 | RyanE | Ignition switch is a pretty cheap fix, compared to injectors/EFI, etc. |
| 18:22.15 | elg | yeah. I was deathly afraid it was the fuel injection system |
| 18:27.54 | RyanE | I've replaced 2 of 6 injectors on that same car in the past 6 months, at $250ish a pop. |
| 18:28.06 | RyanE | time to move on, I think. |
| 18:32.22 | findlay | my car has but one injector worth $400 new |
| 18:32.47 | findlay | that's 4/5-ths of the what I paid for the car |
| 18:32.56 | pjw | http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~atman/attention-fat-bastards.html |
| 18:32.59 | brac | [Taunt for Internet Advertisers] |
| 18:37.04 | Jayce^ | nice |
| 18:53.42 | levi | I'm a daddy again. :) |
| 18:54.00 | fozzmoo | levi: Good work. |
| 18:54.42 | levi | Labor was 45 minutes long. We barely made it to the hospital. :) |
| 18:56.17 | levi | Time for my wife to get a new doctor. The drive from Lehi to Murray is a little bit too long. |
| 18:56.36 | RyanE | congrats! |
| 18:56.48 | fozzmoo | Quick labor. |
| 18:57.09 | fozzmoo | I've heard there are lots of OB/GYNs in Utah Valley. I have no idea why. |
| 19:01.37 | Tene | levi: how long did you stop being a father for? |
| 19:04.16 | levi | Tene: You know what I mean. :P |
| 19:04.25 | levi | Tene: I am now a daddy to 2 kids instead of 1. |
| 19:10.03 | elg | nice |
| 19:10.13 | elg | you beat us to it |
| 19:11.08 | vontrapp | haha fozzmoo, that's like the daily universe today |
| 19:11.15 | vontrapp | omg headline! utah county leads the state in marraige rates |
| 19:11.29 | elg | probably leads the country |
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| 19:11.45 | ^Migs^ | that's what you get when you live in a sexually repressed county |
| 19:11.50 | vontrapp | what about peter? his come yet? |
| 19:12.22 | vontrapp | he was weaseling his way out of a test yesterday on account of his wife |
| 19:14.19 | goozbach | fozzmoo: nice pics |
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| 19:15.34 | elg | :) |
| 19:15.51 | elg | what about goozbach? is his on the way yet? |
| 19:16.58 | goozbach | what way? |
| 19:17.56 | Tene | Andy just announced that he's given up on trying to work on PHP. |
| 19:18.06 | vontrapp | weirdness, 'h' in pidgin fails to produce an h at all |
| 19:18.12 | Tene | They've driven away *another* good hacker. |
| 19:18.13 | vontrapp | instead it turns conversation logging on/off |
| 19:18.40 | vontrapp | even after restarting pidgin |
| 19:21.30 | vontrapp | found it |
| 19:21.46 | vontrapp | a menu got activated just prior to a press of 'h' |
| 19:22.01 | vontrapp | thus h became the shortcut for that menu item that was selected |
| 19:22.33 | vontrapp | Tene: it's php, oh well |
| 19:22.57 | vontrapp | ~honeymoon goozbach |
| 19:26.38 | dataw0lf | elg: you have any problems actually moving the stick shift? does it stick between gears? |
| 19:27.21 | dataw0lf | err, sorry, I had my window buffered up a couple pages, and thought your clutch comment was newer |
| 19:28.11 | vontrapp | if it's a clutch spring, you clutch will slip/not engage (tis what it sounds like, though maybe not that far yet) |
| 19:28.39 | vontrapp | if it's a cylander problem the clutch will fail to disengage, causing problems described by dataw0lf |
| 19:29.15 | vontrapp | s/cyl\w*/cylinder/ |
| 19:29.36 | elg | dataw0lf: no, no trouble there |
| 19:30.23 | herlo | okay, so I'm trying to enable jfs in the kernel on fedora, any helpful suggestions? I've already installed the box and don't wish to reinstall *again* |
| 19:30.24 | elg | it's not slipping noticeably |
| 19:30.28 | vontrapp | my old car had the former problem, almost couldn't make it up the point of the mountain one time (on a date even) |
| 19:30.39 | vontrapp | i realized then it was time to replace the clutch stuff |
| 19:31.13 | vontrapp | herlo: just build a new kernel |
| 19:31.25 | herlo | vontrapp: I don't wanna |
| 19:31.27 | herlo | :) |
| 19:31.36 | vontrapp | but actually, you could probably just install modules, they might even be in a package |
| 19:31.39 | herlo | vontrapp: there's gotta be a module for it. I've already enabled it... |
| 19:31.39 | Tene | herlo: my fedora has jfs modules available... |
| 19:31.42 | vontrapp | you are running stock kernel, right? |
| 19:31.46 | herlo | Tene: yeah, what are they called? |
| 19:31.52 | Tene | erm... jfs.ko |
| 19:32.08 | Tene | ls /lib/modules/*/kernel/fs/jfs/jfs.ko |
| 19:32.10 | herlo | s/wd/ed/g |
| 19:32.22 | herlo | Tene: sure, but what's the package |
| 19:32.39 | herlo | Tene: rpm -qf ^^ |
| 19:32.58 | Tene | erm |
| 19:32.59 | Tene | kernel |
| 19:33.05 | Tene | it's a standard kernel module |
| 19:33.08 | herlo | hmmph |
| 19:33.14 | Tene | do you not have jfs.ko? |
| 19:33.32 | vontrapp | elg: my clutch problem was a very gradual thing, started out almost like you describe, clutch pedal felt very weak the last bit coming out, not quite a pop though |
| 19:33.51 | Tene | herlo: run that ls command |
| 19:33.56 | herlo | Tene: I have it |
| 19:34.00 | vontrapp | maybe it did even pop sometimes, can't remember for sure |
| 19:34.03 | Tene | so... what's the problem? |
| 19:34.05 | herlo | but I'm running an older kernel I just discovered |
| 19:34.20 | herlo | Tene: thx |
| 19:34.24 | Tene | np |
| 19:34.40 | Tene | herlo: fedora kernel rpms update the grub config for you in the scripts |
| 19:34.54 | herlo | Tene: yeah, not sure why it didn't do it, I know I rebooted |
| 19:35.14 | Tene | OMG HERLO IS A ROBOT! |
| 19:35.14 | RyanE | When my clutch went out last year, only the top 2 inches of the pedal did anything. Pressing further didn't disengage it further, and slipping was happening when it got really bad. |
| 19:35.21 | Tene | ibot: herlo is also robots |
| 19:35.22 | ibot | ACTION pokes is with a sharp needle also robots |
| 19:35.27 | Tene | lame |
| 19:36.34 | vontrapp | RyanE: but no problems with disengaging, right? |
| 19:37.00 | RyanE | nope. pedal was smooth top to bottom. |
| 19:37.17 | vontrapp | and you could shift? |
| 19:37.36 | vontrapp | it would be weird if you had problems disengaging AND engaging |
| 19:37.38 | RyanE | but you knew it was bad because youcould even slip your foot off the clutch in gear, and it would only gradually engage. |
| 19:37.42 | RyanE | yes, I could shift. |
| 19:37.55 | RyanE | by only pressing down an inch... :) |
| 19:38.13 | vontrapp | yeah, that's definately a weak spring |
| 19:38.28 | RyanE | and a worn clutch plate. |
| 19:38.36 | vontrapp | i couldn't believe how different my clutch felt after i replaced it! |
| 19:38.44 | vontrapp | it was so... springy! |
| 19:38.47 | Tene | My explorer seems to behave just fine, but is significantly louder than it used to be. |
| 19:38.52 | RyanE | I had to learn to drive stick again. |
| 19:38.57 | vontrapp | hehe |
| 19:39.09 | RyanE | the clutch engage point was so low... |
| 19:39.32 | vontrapp | and then i got rear ended |
| 19:39.34 | vontrapp | :( |
| 19:40.40 | vontrapp | ok, it was a good year+ with my new clutch before that happened |
| 19:40.47 | vontrapp | but it's still sad |
| 19:41.00 | herlo | ~herlo |
| 19:41.00 | ibot | rumour has it, herlo is the best boardgamer ever, works for Guru Labs and generally reads good things his friends lend him |
| 19:41.08 | RyanE | did you get to watch the person in your rear view mirror as they approached you too quickly? |
| 19:41.29 | Tene | herlo: how's the jfs? |
| 19:41.35 | RyanE | herlo: *best board gamer ever*? HAHAHAHHA We both know that aint true. |
| 19:41.35 | herlo | Tene: wonderful!~ |
| 19:41.43 | Tene | ibot: ~ |
| 19:41.44 | ibot | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 19:41.46 | herlo | RyanE: if you come and play, you might actually see |
| 19:42.07 | RyanE | herlo: I don't come out of pity for your poor skillz. |
| 19:42.18 | RyanE | :) |
| 19:42.39 | herlo | RyanE: or fear that I will *always* win! |
| 19:43.33 | dataw0lf | herlo / RyanE: played Zombies! ? |
| 19:43.51 | RyanE | herlo, what happens when you reinit yourself to runlevel 3? Do you lose your sight? |
| 19:44.00 | RyanE | dataw0lf: nope. |
| 19:44.17 | RyanE | but 'Sucking Vacuum' was fun. |
| 19:44.23 | dataw0lf | RyanE: It's pretty cool. Tile placement based strategy game |
| 19:45.03 | dataw0lf | I'm prototyping a computer version in Python right now, hoping to either get it to work with the DLR + XNA Express, or just port it over to C#, so I can play it online via Xbox Live. |
| 19:45.22 | dataw0lf | http://www.twilightcreationsinc.com/zombies/ |
| 19:45.23 | brac | [Twilight Creations Inc - Zombies!!!] |
| 19:46.09 | RyanE | I'm reading the Wikipedia entry on it now... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies!!! |
| 19:46.49 | RyanE | "Next, the player rolls a six-sided die to determine how far his "shotgun guy" can move." Any game with a "shotgun guy" is OK by me. |
| 19:47.33 | herlo | dataw0lf: yuppers |
| 19:47.36 | dataw0lf | yea, it's pretty sweet :) Some really funny action cards too. |
| 19:48.14 | herlo | RyanE: what's a butt sucking vacuum? |
| 19:48.29 | vontrapp | RyanE: not really, i was too busy trying to see why the big van right in front of me came to a dead stop |
| 19:48.46 | dataw0lf | herlo: apparently the doctor tacked something extra on to RyanE's annual visit. |
| 19:49.15 | RyanE | Sucking Vacuum's premise is 6 people stuck on the Int'l space station, one escape pod, losing air. You basically beat the tar out of the other astronauts to get out alive. |
| 19:50.02 | RyanE | vontrapp: I got rear ended once, sitting at a stoplight. Mildly panicking to watch an old lady accelerate instead of brake. |
| 19:50.14 | dataw0lf | that's a pretty ingenious premise |
| 19:50.20 | RyanE | got confused on the pedals. |
| 19:50.50 | RyanE | you don't die, either. You move in-between breaths of O2. |
| 19:51.09 | RyanE | and if you run out of air, you are forced to go to an air tank. |
| 19:52.08 | dataw0lf | hm. interesting. |
| 19:52.24 | dataw0lf | in Zombies!!! you can get different weapons, like a chainsaw and stuff. |
| 19:52.35 | dataw0lf | and you can collect "bullet tokens" and "life tokens" in various buildings. |
| 19:55.03 | dataw0lf | I'm interested in playing Munchkin, I've heard it's pretty fun. |
| 19:55.29 | dataw0lf | I've been playing D&D minis which is a cheaper hobby then Warhammer 40k or Warmachine ever was |
| 19:55.43 | dataw0lf | although I miss painting minis. |
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| 20:06.31 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Thanks! |
| 20:06.42 | fozzmoo | goozbach: It's nice to see you back. |
| 20:16.40 | herlo | dataw0lf: probably |
| 20:16.52 | herlo | dataw0lf: in reference to RyanE's doctor |
| 20:20.42 | moriancumer | anyone use vim-outliner? I can't get it to work on gusty. |
| 20:22.55 | Sargun | uh |
| 20:23.29 | RyanE | herlo: at least I know the difference between a butt and a but. |
| 20:27.43 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, munchkin rules |
| 20:29.41 | Lakshmi | uh? |
| 20:42.09 | herlo | RyanE: you do? |
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| 21:00.06 | sontek | elg: a morse bit your sister? |
| 21:09.06 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: that's what I hear |
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| 21:49.26 | ^Migs^ | according to iGoogle's personalized theme, it is currently snowing here |
| 21:49.30 | ^Migs^ | I sure wish I had a window |
| 21:51.13 | mrpull | the other day I trusted a weather app on my phone all day... it said it was 20 degrees outside |
| 21:51.36 | mrpull | I was surprised to later find out it was a very pleasant day and my app was accidentally set to celsius |
| 21:52.27 | mrpull | it's bad in the winter to drive into work before the sun comes up, drive home after the sun goes down, work in an office without a window... and sometimes not leave for lunch. |
| 21:52.29 | mrpull | too much dark |
| 21:55.49 | maquis | mrpull: that's my life! |
| 21:55.55 | ^Migs^ | @quote sco |
| 21:55.56 | ^Migs^ | @quote scox |
| 21:56.09 | maquis | except, i can see a window a little ways away |
| 21:56.21 | mrpull | maquis: still in the northwest? I've never been there but hear it can be depression all year :) |
| 21:56.34 | maquis | mrpull: it's not too bad, but then again, i grew up here |
| 21:56.35 | maquis | :) |
| 21:56.44 | maquis | temperatures are quite moderate |
| 21:57.22 | dmdavis | I grew up in upstate NY, which is like the northwest, in terms of gloom. Gray, cloudy days actually make me happy as they remind me of home :) |
| 21:57.32 | maquis | :) |
| 21:57.52 | maquis | urgh... |
| 21:57.58 | maquis | why won't this stupid thing work??? |
| 21:58.37 | sontek | maquis: did you ask nicely? |
| 21:59.47 | tensai | maquis: it doesn't work because *you* are using it. I thought you understood that principle. |
| 22:00.00 | maquis | sontek: i think i started out nicely |
| 22:00.15 | maquis | tensai: i did... but i was hoping it would stop |
| 22:01.37 | Tene | I always feel much happier and more cheerful in the winter. |
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| 22:02.16 | tensai | Tene: do you delight in the suffering of others? I find that helps a lot. |
| 22:03.08 | sontek | I get sad in the Winter, I don't like cold |
| 22:03.09 | Tene | I do, sometimes. |
| 22:03.46 | mrpull | gotta going skiing and snowmobiling to kick the winter blues |
| 22:09.49 | herlo | mrpull: fo sho |
| 22:16.27 | thaddeusq | ~quote scox |
| 22:16.34 | sontek | ~quote NOVL |
| 22:17.38 | thaddeusq | sontek: you must have noticed the latest news on groklaw also? |
| 22:18.45 | sontek | thaddeusq: yeah but I don't know what it means! |
| 22:21.52 | rsimpkins | ~quote OMTR |
| 22:23.29 | sontek | rsimpkins: do you guys get stock for being employees? |
| 22:23.37 | rsimpkins | sontek: Yes. |
| 22:23.43 | Jayce^ | ~quote UNTD |
| 22:23.44 | sontek | rsimpkins: Wanna play guitar hero for some?! |
| 22:23.46 | rsimpkins | sontek: Well, not all positions, but some. |
| 22:23.50 | sontek | ;) |
| 22:23.57 | sontek | Jayce^: OMTR wins! |
| 22:24.19 | rsimpkins | no, novell wins as it has the higest market cap |
| 22:24.23 | Jayce^ | nah, UNTD does because I had some shares sitting around :) |
| 22:24.34 | rsimpkins | omtr second, then untd |
| 22:24.51 | sontek | ~quote IOM |
| 22:25.15 | rsimpkins | Wow, iom's market cap is a lot smaller than i would have thought. |
| 22:25.58 | Jayce^ | ~quote BRKA |
| 22:26.03 | tensai | volume isn't the same as market cap |
| 22:26.17 | tensai | volume is how many shares have transferred today |
| 22:26.49 | rsimpkins | I'm not looking at volume, I was looking at market cap on yahoo finance. |
| 22:27.13 | tensai | ah, then carry on |
| 22:28.38 | rsimpkins | Someone put $57M to BRKA? |
| 22:29.41 | ^Migs^ | http://i8.tinypic.com/73eyb0n.jpg |
| 22:29.47 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 22:29.51 | tensai | was all 420 shares in a single trade? |
| 22:30.06 | rsimpkins | Oh, warren buffet. |
| 22:30.08 | rsimpkins | I see. |
| 22:30.20 | tensai | ~quote GOOG |
| 22:30.30 | rsimpkins | Nice day for GOOG |
| 22:30.38 | rsimpkins | I still don't get why they are valued so high. |
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| 22:30.47 | rsimpkins | Some day all those investors will learn a hard lesson. |
| 22:31.31 | tensai | it seems that not everybody who survived the dot bomb learned their lesson |
| 22:31.49 | tensai | although in GOOG's defense, they are making money |
| 22:38.53 | sontek | whats a BRKA? |
| 22:39.05 | tensai | berkshire hathaway |
| 22:40.24 | sontek | don't know who they are :/ |
| 22:41.54 | tensai | warren buffet's company. they own a lot of companies, such as geico. |
| 22:42.27 | rsimpkins | sontek: I just got done reading the wikipedia article for them, rather interesting read. |
| 22:46.49 | tensai | http://www.securitycompass.com/exploitme.shtml |
| 22:46.50 | brac | [Security Compass - Application Security Canada] |
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| 23:06.12 | Jayce^ | tensai, ooh, nifty |
| 23:06.17 | Jayce^ | you use it yet? |
| 23:07.02 | tensai | Jayce^: not yet. sure would be nice to have some showtunes to accompany it, if you know what I mean. |
| 23:08.50 | Jayce^ | what I thought I .... ow! |
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| 23:21.50 | tensai | it's so nice to read email threads where everybody uses a proper mail client. stupid Outlook. |
| 23:26.09 | undertakingyou | sontek: why are you doing that? |
| 23:26.31 | sontek | undertakingyou: because everyone is picking on him |
| 23:26.36 | sontek | undertakingyou: outlook needs love too! |
| 23:26.55 | undertakingyou | sontek: I guess. You haven't used outlook much have you. |
| 23:28.17 | Tene | sontek: careful... I hear it's contagious. |
| 23:28.53 | sontek | undertakingyou: I'm a born and raised evolution user! =) |
| 23:29.23 | undertakingyou | sontek: that is what I like to hear. |
| 23:29.27 | maquis | i've been using thunderbird at work |
| 23:29.35 | maquis | but, it's pretty stupid at times, unfortunately |
| 23:29.43 | maquis | particularly when it comes to my calendar |
| 23:30.18 | undertakingyou | maquis: don't you have windows at work? |
| 23:33.08 | maquis | ... |
| 23:33.48 | tensai | Newsome: winter hit the windy city yet? |
| 23:34.00 | Newsome | it sure has |
| 23:34.50 | Newsome | we got snow last week, and I have to scrape the windows of my car now |
| 23:37.56 | rsimpkins | scrape the windows off of your car? |
| 23:38.17 | maquis | Newsome: wow... that's pretty impressive |
| 23:38.24 | maquis | do you have to scrape the paint off too? |
| 23:38.28 | rsimpkins | Isn't microsoft coming out with a service pack for car? |
| 23:38.37 | Newsome | nah, the paint falls off with the rust |
| 23:38.43 | maquis | ah |
| 23:38.56 | rsimpkins | They say it will make care faster. |
| 23:39.04 | rsimpkins | But tests show the car is actually slower. |
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| 23:39.15 | rsimpkins | And the door locks don't work any more. |
| 23:39.37 | maquis | rsimpkins: but everyone will upgrade anyways |
| 23:40.00 | rsimpkins | With windows-live-car updater? |
| 23:40.10 | maquis | probably because they don't really care |
| 23:40.35 | rsimpkins | Yeah, that should work for most people. Of course, a few people's cars will stop working - but that is to be expected. |
| 23:41.00 | rsimpkins | My Linux car is doing well, but I don't have time to rebuild the fuel injection system and it's clogging up with cruft. |
| 23:45.30 | nick125 | Someone should build an actual Linux car. |
| 23:45.51 | rsimpkins | Like, a tux themed car? |
| 23:46.52 | nick125 | No, a car completely controlled with Linux. |
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| 23:58.32 | maquis | rsimpkins: nice |
| 23:58.45 | maquis | rsimpkins: you should try a bsd car |
| 23:59.01 | maquis | rebuilding the engine is really simple |
| 23:59.06 | maquis | and it's extremely simple |
| 23:59.17 | rsimpkins | I like BSD car, except everything is in funny places. Like, the engine is in the back, and the light switch is labled "illuminators" |
| 23:59.56 | maquis | well... as you know... cool cars have the engine in the back (ok... and a few wannabes...) |
