| 00:00.44 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 00:01.13 | fozzmoo | MØØØØØØØØ! |
| 00:01.48 | fozzmoo | Or, 80s metal band: möööööööö! |
| 00:03.15 | findlay | nice |
| 00:12.31 | *** join/#utah Sargun (n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun) |
| 00:12.32 | brac | [~ |
| 00:12.32 | brac | ~say A long-forgotten loved one will appear soon. |
| 00:12.33 | ibot | A long-forgotten loved one will appear soon. |
| 00:12.33 | brac | Buy the negatives at any price. |
| 00:12.33 | brac | ~] |
| 00:14.08 | Sargun | Oh. neat. |
| 00:14.16 | findlay | haha |
| 00:16.01 | findlay | -chat Sargun |
| 00:16.02 | brac | Sargun was getting bogged down? |
| 00:16.11 | findlay | -chat |
| 00:16.12 | brac | upstairs I've got to the curriculum. |
| 00:16.19 | findlay | -chat ~random |
| 00:16.19 | brac | ~random is |
| 00:19.30 | Sargun | uh |
| 00:19.42 | findlay | -chat uh |
| 00:19.43 | brac | uh is it fo? |
| 00:20.29 | findlay | ~say -chat ~lart fo |
| 00:20.30 | ibot | -chat ~lart fo |
| 00:20.31 | brac | ~lart fo |
| 00:20.31 | ibot | installs a bad bootloader on fo and turns fo into a brick |
| 00:21.18 | Tene | -chat findlay wants |
| 00:21.19 | brac | findlay wants a cut throat business |
| 00:22.02 | Tene | -chat fozz wants |
| 00:22.03 | brac | fozz wants |
| 00:22.09 | findlay | -chat Tene stuff |
| 00:22.09 | brac | Tene stuff |
| 00:26.54 | findlay | haha |
| 00:27.15 | findlay | comcast just sent a bill to 'current resident' for $0.00 |
| 00:27.49 | findlay | there's no way I'd give money to comcast if I couldn't help it |
| 00:27.59 | findlay | even for $0.00 and as current resident |
| 00:30.34 | findlay | ~bill comcast |
| 00:30.39 | findlay | ~duck comcast |
| 00:30.40 | ibot | ACTION gives comcast a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels comcast with it's big white wings. |
| 00:31.28 | fozzmoo | niiiice. |
| 00:32.10 | Lakshmi | say OMG |
| 00:33.01 | findlay | ~say laka laka Lakshmi! |
| 00:33.02 | ibot | laka laka Lakshmi! |
| 00:33.53 | Lakshmi | ~say OMG! |
| 00:33.53 | ibot | OMG! |
| 00:33.58 | Lakshmi | i win! |
| 00:34.05 | findlay | ~win |
| 00:34.05 | ibot | well, win is lose. |
| 00:34.13 | Lakshmi | ~lose |
| 00:34.22 | Lakshmi | ~ you lose |
| 00:34.25 | findlay | ~loose |
| 00:34.26 | ibot | loose is probably the most annoying spelling error. It's LOSE you moron. Unless of course you're using loose in a Madonna sorta way. |
| 00:34.42 | Lakshmi | hah |
| 01:11.32 | fozzmoo | loose the girl, buddy. |
| 01:13.29 | Lakshmi | hm? |
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| 03:20.40 | levi | -talk about Lakshmi is |
| 03:20.53 | levi | -speak about |
| 03:20.56 | levi | -speak |
| 03:21.03 | levi | Stupid bot commands. |
| 03:21.42 | *** join/#utah bsdice (i=bsdice@DSL01.83.171.158.46.ip-pool.NEFkom.net) |
| 03:22.45 | bsdice | !seen saltlakesurferdude |
| 03:22.45 | UtahBot | bsdice: Error: 'saltlakesurferdude' is not a valid nick. That nick is too long for this server. |
| 03:23.19 | bsdice | !seen sleazyjim |
| 03:23.20 | UtahBot | bsdice: I have not seen sleazyjim. |
| 03:23.38 | bsdice | !seen ldsjane |
| 03:23.38 | UtahBot | bsdice: I have not seen ldsjane. |
| 03:25.30 | bsdice | !seen TedDraper |
| 03:25.30 | UtahBot | bsdice: I have not seen TedDraper. |
| 03:31.30 | fozzmoo | !seen bsdice |
| 03:31.30 | UtahBot | fozzmoo: bsdice was last seen in #utah 5 minutes and 59 seconds ago: <bsdice> !seen TedDraper |
| 03:31.58 | fozzmoo | sleazyjim and ldsjane... sounds like an interesting story. |
| 03:34.13 | bsdice | don't mock my friends :) |
| 03:36.52 | fozzmoo | elg: Ping |
| 03:41.06 | mrpull-lt | is that bsd ice or BS dice? |
| 03:41.22 | fozzmoo | Or BSDI CE? |
| 03:41.40 | fozzmoo | Cuz... you never know! |
| 03:41.50 | mrpull-lt | true. cisco has a bsdi course. |
| 03:41.51 | bsdice | does bullshit dice have any meaning to you? :) |
| 03:42.01 | mrpull-lt | are you a craps player? |
| 03:42.01 | fozzmoo | nope. |
| 03:42.16 | bsdice | actually it is bsd-ice |
| 03:42.24 | mrpull-lt | i've lost enough playing craps that i probably cursed at the dice |
| 03:42.56 | mrpull-lt | i guessed that, but it is more fun to suggest the less obvious version |
| 03:43.11 | bsdice | ahh |
| 03:44.53 | fozzmoo | ~onjoin Lakshmi Lakshmi: We missed you! |
| 03:44.54 | ibot | ok, fozzmoo |
| 03:45.30 | bsdice | I think me in wrong channel - this is not utah kazhakstan no? |
| 03:45.56 | fozzmoo | kazhakstan? No. |
| 03:46.28 | bsdice | utakh? |
| 03:46.40 | fozzmoo | no idea. This is #utah |
| 03:46.52 | fozzmoo | Just a bunch of boring geeks here. |
| 03:46.57 | bsdice | where are you people from? |
| 03:47.02 | fozzmoo | Utah, USA. |
| 03:47.06 | bsdice | kirgizhikstan? |
| 03:47.09 | bsdice | oh |
| 03:47.12 | bsdice | geeks! |
| 03:47.16 | bsdice | like in jnpr |
| 03:47.24 | bsdice | I love costco |
| 03:47.34 | bsdice | open sunday! empty in utah! |
| 03:47.51 | fozzmoo | Is Costco open on Sunday? I had no idea. |
| 03:48.40 | bsdice | just messing with you guys |
| 03:50.00 | fozzmoo | bsdice: Where you from? |
| 03:50.08 | bsdice | Germany |
| 03:50.21 | bsdice | I just googled up some holiday destinations |
| 03:50.28 | bsdice | figured heck why not go to US and A |
| 03:50.31 | fozzmoo | Thinking of coming to Utah? |
| 03:50.34 | bsdice | found Utah for hiking |
| 03:50.47 | bsdice | SLC area |
| 03:50.54 | fozzmoo | Better to ski than hike during the holiday season. |
| 03:50.57 | fozzmoo | With all the snow and all. |
| 03:50.58 | bsdice | never been to desert big city |
| 03:51.05 | bsdice | this will be 2008 |
| 03:51.12 | bsdice | may or june |
| 03:51.17 | fozzmoo | Oh, well that's different. :) |
| 03:52.21 | fozzmoo | Most of us live in or around the SLC area. |
| 03:52.30 | bsdice | anyone from Draper? |
| 03:52.44 | fozzmoo | I'm in Riverton. Spitting distance from Draper. |
| 03:53.15 | RyanE | I work in Draper. |
| 03:53.25 | bsdice | RyanE call center?? |
| 03:53.29 | RyanE | nope. |
| 03:53.32 | bsdice | :) |
| 03:53.36 | bsdice | damn |
| 03:53.45 | RyanE | if you're looking for hiking in utah, Moab and Zions National Park are better than Draper. :) |
| 03:53.52 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 03:53.58 | bsdice | Park City |
| 03:54.16 | fozzmoo | Park City is great for hiking from one gift shop to the next. |
| 03:54.17 | bsdice | well... I only know whats in Wikipedia so this will be surprise trip for sure |
| 03:54.40 | RyanE | fozzmoo: heh. I was thinking of a nice way to say that. I'd say 'Art Gallery' rather than gift shop, though. |
| 03:54.57 | fozzmoo | Okay. Prohibitively-priced art gallery. |
| 03:55.08 | bsdice | you mean overpriced |
| 03:55.16 | fozzmoo | very. |
| 03:55.37 | bsdice | well I been to some metropolitan areas in US |
| 03:55.41 | fozzmoo | I agree with RyanE- there are lots of state and national parks with excellent groomed trails for people who want to hike. |
| 03:55.44 | bsdice | but never tried mid west |
| 03:55.55 | bsdice | saw yellowstone is in spitting distance |
| 03:56.00 | fozzmoo | Utah is actually not considered "mid-west" |
| 03:56.08 | fozzmoo | Yeah- Yellowstone is about 8 hours north. |
| 03:56.16 | bsdice | excuse my ignorance |
| 03:56.28 | fozzmoo | Las Vegas is about 6 hours south. |
| 03:56.31 | RyanE | hiking and midwest don't go together. the midwest is pretty flat and boring, unless you like hiking in corn and soybean fields. |
| 03:56.50 | fozzmoo | Midwest is usually east of the Rocky Mountains. |
| 03:57.03 | fozzmoo | Utah is "intermountain west" |
| 03:57.07 | RyanE | i.e. east of Denver. |
| 03:57.08 | fozzmoo | Among other things. :) |
| 03:57.10 | RyanE | (is midwest) |
| 03:57.25 | fozzmoo | Utah is just Utah. |
| 03:57.34 | fozzmoo | Sometimes people lump it in with "the southwest" |
| 03:57.38 | fozzmoo | which doesn't seem quite right. |
| 03:58.12 | bsdice | well how does east-california sound |
| 03:58.19 | RyanE | heh |
| 03:58.25 | bsdice | considering how many californias move there |
| 03:58.27 | RyanE | you forget Nevada, our 'buffer zone' |
| 03:58.39 | bsdice | looks like people skip it |
| 03:58.52 | fozzmoo | Right. When California falls into the Pacific, we'll still have Nevada. :) |
| 03:59.14 | RyanE | I've noticed that a lot of the people moving here from California actually came from Utah a while before that... |
| 03:59.37 | fozzmoo | I can't imagine a native Californian moving to Utah. |
| 03:59.49 | fozzmoo | I'm sure there are some... but I can't imagine they'd like it. |
| 03:59.52 | fozzmoo | Park City, maybe. |
| 03:59.56 | fozzmoo | but not the Wasatch Front. |
| 04:00.08 | RyanE | yeah, when they want to relocate their Prohibitively-expensive art galleries. :) |
| 04:00.12 | fozzmoo | :-D |
| 04:04.07 | levi | fozzmoo: I have a bunch of native californian relatives that live here now. |
| 04:04.18 | fozzmoo | Do they hate it here? |
| 04:04.26 | levi | fozzmoo: They have issues with the cold weather, but love the real estate prices. :P |
| 04:04.32 | fozzmoo | Yeah- there's that. |
| 04:04.37 | findlay | I've been to Utah before |
| 04:04.40 | findlay | it seems OK |
| 04:05.15 | fozzmoo | findlay: Before what? |
| 04:05.36 | levi | "Come to Utah! It's cheaper than California!" |
| 04:05.55 | bsdice | clean |
| 04:06.00 | bsdice | 3.2 booze |
| 04:06.09 | bsdice | safe |
| 04:06.13 | bsdice | republican |
| 04:06.18 | bsdice | => utah |
| 04:06.44 | fozzmoo | Someone should make a billboard of that. |
| 04:06.56 | fozzmoo | s/republican/conservative/ |
| 04:07.16 | levi | Except SLC, which is far more democrat/liberal. |
| 04:07.16 | fozzmoo | Lots of constitution party folks here too. |
| 04:07.36 | fozzmoo | Yeah. Eastern neighborhoods of SLC. True that. |
| 04:07.46 | findlay | ugh |
| 04:07.51 | levi | Yeah, lots of ultra-conservative nutjobs mixed in with the run-of-the-mill conservatives. ;) |
| 04:08.06 | findlay | partisan politics is the bane of civilization |
| 04:08.18 | bsdice | I heard the mormon people are forbidden to drink coffee |
| 04:08.25 | bsdice | why is that? anyone know? |
| 04:08.26 | fozzmoo | Forbidden? |
| 04:08.29 | findlay | 403 |
| 04:08.32 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 04:08.35 | bsdice | 404? |
| 04:08.41 | bsdice | 403 permission denied |
| 04:08.45 | findlay | only if you don't have the coffee password |
| 04:08.45 | levi | bsdice: You heard basically right, then. |
| 04:08.45 | fozzmoo | You can actually FIND coffee. :) |
| 04:09.00 | bsdice | findlay 'starbucks'? |
| 04:09.05 | findlay | yes |
| 04:09.16 | findlay | there's some of them around these parts |
| 04:09.41 | levi | Mormons are forbidden to drink coffee, tea, and alcoholic beverages, as well as partaking of tobacco and harmful/illegal drugs. |
| 04:09.43 | fozzmoo | bsdice: Mormon doctrine states that members should not partake of "hot drinks" which has been qualified to mean coffee and tea. |
| 04:09.55 | *** join/#utah Lakshmi (n=Lakshmi@66-240-25-49.isp.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 04:09.55 | fozzmoo | Why? Because the doctrine says so. :) |
| 04:10.07 | bsdice | hot drinks |
| 04:10.13 | levi | bsdice: There are plenty of coffee shops in Utah, though, so don't worry about that if you decide to visit. |
| 04:10.16 | bsdice | any atheists in utah? |
| 04:10.27 | fozzmoo | Yeah. But we beat the crap out of them when we find them. |
| 04:10.27 | findlay | yup |
| 04:10.33 | Lakshmi | ibot reallu? |
| 04:10.35 | Lakshmi | reallu? |
| 04:10.38 | fozzmoo | usually in coffee shops. |
| 04:10.45 | bsdice | lol |
| 04:11.23 | findlay | how many of you use virtual desktops? |
| 04:11.32 | levi | bsdice: If you're into hiking, though, you should skip the Wasatch Front and go straight to Moab. |
| 04:11.40 | findlay | and of them, how many recreationally switch between them? |
| 04:11.51 | findlay | yeah |
| 04:11.54 | findlay | canyonlands |
| 04:11.56 | findlay | arches |
| 04:12.02 | fozzmoo | findlay: You mean like... in KDE and GNOME? |
| 04:12.03 | findlay | slot canyons |
| 04:12.08 | findlay | fozzmoo: sure |
| 04:12.32 | bsdice | I read there is a "Wayne's World Rd/St." in Utah (probably SLC) |
| 04:13.00 | fozzmoo | findlay: Yeah- I regularly have six virtuals. |
| 04:13.15 | fozzmoo | Main, web, e-mail, graphics, office, and music |
| 04:13.19 | findlay | fozzmoo: but do you idly cycle amongst them? :) |
| 04:13.29 | fozzmoo | idly? No. actively. :) |
| 04:14.20 | levi | Yeah, Waynes World Dr. is in Draper. |
| 04:14.28 | findlay | bsdice: I couldn't find any on google maps |
| 04:14.44 | fozzmoo | Nobody knows why. |
| 04:15.03 | levi | findlay: Then you're not searching right. |
| 04:15.07 | findlay | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Wayne's+World+Draper&sll=40.779099,-111.98183&sspn=0.676966,1.303253&ie=UTF8&z=10&iwloc=B&om=1 |
| 04:15.20 | levi | findlay: Lose the apostrophe |
| 04:15.31 | findlay | aww, I did it wrong |
| 04:15.53 | Tene | findlay: me |
| 04:15.53 | findlay | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Waynes+World+Draper&sll=40.779099,-111.98183&sspn=0.676966,1.303253&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 |
| 04:16.03 | levi | I used to ride my bike by there all the time. |
| 04:16.15 | findlay | Tene: you? |
| 04:16.41 | bsdice | yeah that one |
| 04:16.53 | fozzmoo | Tene: them. |
| 04:16.53 | findlay | hey, I've been on that road lots of times |
| 04:16.56 | bsdice | actually that is pretty nuts |
| 04:17.05 | bsdice | Party on findlay! |
| 04:17.37 | Tene | findlay: recreationally switch |
| 04:17.51 | findlay | Tene: nice |
| 04:18.06 | fozzmoo | Wow. I could get into this. |
| 04:18.21 | fozzmoo | I think I need different backgrounds on each desktop to really make this fun. |
| 04:18.39 | fozzmoo | And maybe I should enable that "scroll wheel over desktop background" feature. |
| 04:18.49 | Tene | findlay: you have desktop transitions set up in e? |
| 04:18.56 | fozzmoo | Now... when I had beryl active, I would switch "idly" all the time. |
| 04:18.57 | findlay | Tene: yeah |
| 04:19.51 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo |
| 04:19.53 | Lakshmi | !! |
| 04:19.54 | UtahBot | Lakshmi: Error: "!" is not a valid command. |
| 04:20.00 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 04:20.19 | findlay | heh |
| 04:20.54 | findlay | bsdice: there's lots of fun mountain hikes in Utah, but I'm sure you have them in Germany too :) |
| 04:21.47 | bsdice | yes but why not explore some country with weirdos for a change |
| 04:22.19 | bsdice | no pretzels no lederhosen no good beer |
| 04:22.28 | bsdice | just you and the mountains |
| 04:22.40 | bsdice | and some girl to boot |
| 04:22.54 | bsdice | are there nice girls in utah? |
| 04:23.36 | Tene | A few. |
| 04:23.40 | findlay | I recommend the Uintas |
| 04:23.46 | findlay | and Mt Nebo |
| 04:23.52 | findlay | fun hike |
| 04:24.08 | bsdice | I found Bluffdale |
| 04:24.12 | Tene | I've climbed Timpanogos a few times. |
| 04:24.13 | bsdice | is there Hilldale too? |
| 04:24.19 | Tene | That's a fun hike too. |
| 04:24.21 | findlay | way south |
| 04:24.42 | findlay | Timpanogas is quite precarious |
| 04:24.48 | fozzmoo | Bluffdale is on the fast track to be renamed "AngryAndBitterDale" |
| 04:24.54 | findlay | heh |
| 04:25.50 | fozzmoo | That is one messed up community. |
| 04:26.14 | bsdice | how so |
| 04:26.34 | fozzmoo | They can't get along with other neighboring cities... |
| 04:26.46 | fozzmoo | the Bluffdale city council is at odds with the mayor. |
| 04:27.09 | fozzmoo | Mayor was (maybe still is) suing the city council for removing some of the mayor's powers. |
| 04:27.23 | bsdice | lol |
| 04:27.28 | findlay | silly mayors |
| 04:27.32 | bsdice | 3 2 1 FIGHT |
| 04:27.42 | fozzmoo | 3 2 1 litigate! |
| 04:28.10 | bsdice | forgot this is country of US and A |
| 04:28.26 | findlay | and don't forget good old SCO! |
| 04:28.53 | bsdice | santa cruz operation? |
| 04:28.57 | fozzmoo | uh huh. |
| 04:29.26 | bsdice | heard they own linooks |
| 04:29.45 | findlay | NOWAI |
| 04:31.52 | bsdice | do you guys love bush? |
| 04:32.01 | fozzmoo | That's a loaded question. |
| 04:32.31 | bsdice | capitalization is correct hrhr |
| 04:33.04 | bsdice | I only learn crap watching youtube |
| 04:33.16 | findlay | I like broccoli, so how could I love Bush? |
| 04:33.23 | fozzmoo | bsdice: That's a frightening prospect. |
| 04:33.32 | bsdice | youtube is us and a invention |
| 04:33.42 | bsdice | as jay leno put it |
| 04:33.49 | bsdice | first, we wrecked our culture |
| 04:33.56 | bsdice | now we'll wreck yours |
| 04:34.15 | fozzmoo | Your view of the USA must be that we all have 15 year old girls in our houses wearing tight shorts shaking their asses to gangsta rap. :) |
| 04:34.50 | bsdice | sort of |
| 04:34.56 | findlay | ugh |
| 04:35.11 | findlay | bsdice: ever been to the Berliner Philharmoniker? :) |
| 04:35.17 | bsdice | no |
| 04:35.25 | findlay | ah |
| 04:35.39 | bsdice | but I learned 11% of utahnikers are german |
| 04:35.43 | bsdice | of german descent |
| 04:35.49 | bsdice | that is uhhh |
| 04:35.54 | bsdice | astounding |
| 04:36.10 | fozzmoo | And many of us are of scandinavian descent too. |
| 04:36.40 | fozzmoo | bsdice: Thanks to early Mormon missionary work. |
| 04:41.11 | bsdice | I have wrong picture I think |
| 04:41.22 | bsdice | do you know the movie with bill murray |
| 04:41.28 | bsdice | groundhog day |
| 04:41.42 | RyanE | yep |
| 04:41.43 | findlay | what about it? |
| 04:42.01 | bsdice | is utah like that town? |
| 04:42.10 | findlay | no |
| 04:42.16 | bsdice | rural |
| 04:42.23 | fozzmoo | Some of it. |
| 04:42.26 | bsdice | monday through friday routine |
| 04:42.27 | fozzmoo | Not the Wasatch Front. |
| 04:42.32 | RyanE | nope. That's in Pennsylvania. Far east of Utah |
| 04:42.54 | findlay | where the pens come from |
| 04:50.07 | fozzmoo | Way to go. Kill the conversation with your pen talk. |
| 04:50.40 | tensai | ~kill the conversation |
| 04:50.40 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-graviton gun at the conversation |
| 04:50.46 | bsdice | it is 0550 over here |
| 04:50.53 | bsdice | I need to prep for work in 10 minutes... |
| 04:51.51 | bsdice | should be 2150 over at your place |
| 04:51.56 | fozzmoo | yeppers. |
| 04:52.05 | fozzmoo | But we're not smart enough to call it that. |
| 04:52.08 | bsdice | mountie standard time |
| 04:52.09 | fozzmoo | We just call it 9:50 |
| 04:52.23 | bsdice | that is imprecise |
| 04:52.35 | tensai | all my time pieces are in 24h format |
| 04:52.44 | bsdice | jean luc always uses military 24h format |
| 04:53.00 | fozzmoo | tensai: Me too, but generally speaking... we (Americans) are dumb that way. :) |
| 04:53.16 | tensai | fozzmoo: I'll give you that |
| 04:53.19 | fozzmoo | I can't tell you how many people I've talked to who think the metric system is harder to understand than imperial. :) |
| 04:53.20 | bsdice | no metric, 12h time, cheap gas |
| 04:53.39 | fozzmoo | cheap gas is only the result of less taxes. |
| 04:53.57 | fozzmoo | Your gas probably costs as much as ours, only your government adds 400% in taxes. :) |
| 04:54.02 | Tene | cheap gas, but longer distances to drive. |
| 04:54.13 | fozzmoo | and very little public transportation. |
| 04:54.32 | tensai | and extremely little *good* public transportation |
| 04:55.28 | tensai | in Portland they encourage you to ride the train when going to Ikea. that way you can pack a 200lb box of furniture home. |
| 04:55.31 | fozzmoo | But I doubt Germany has any privately operated public transit either. :) |
| 04:55.39 | bsdice | maybe someone should open a hoverboard rental biz |
| 04:56.31 | bsdice | there are some privately operated trains |
| 04:56.37 | bsdice | <1% of all trains |
| 04:56.38 | tensai | I rode UTA from work to school for a while. it worked OK when I didn't miss the bus. there was the one time the bus driver stopped for donuts. |
| 04:56.42 | fozzmoo | wow. |
| 04:56.48 | fozzmoo | holy cow! |
| 04:56.55 | bsdice | india |
| 04:56.56 | fozzmoo | tensai: Wait! For everyone?! |
| 04:57.16 | tensai | fozzmoo: it was just me on the bus. he asked if I wanted anything but I said "no". |
| 04:57.22 | fozzmoo | awh. :) |
| 04:57.43 | bsdice | sounds like the bus driver from springfield |
| 04:57.44 | tensai | caught me by surprise |
| 04:58.55 | bsdice | catch you guys later |
| 04:58.59 | bsdice | bank is waiting |
| 04:58.59 | fozzmoo | Otto would stop for donuts, yes. And to smoke a joint. :) |
| 04:59.08 | bsdice | you watch too much simpsons |
| 04:59.15 | bsdice | ... ;) take care folks |
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| 04:59.25 | tensai | I'm not sure there is such a thing as too much simpsons |
| 04:59.48 | fozzmoo | Maybe he meant we make too much Simpsons? |
| 04:59.55 | fozzmoo | I mean, it has been on a LONG time. |
| 05:00.30 | tensai | not as long as Dr Who |
| 05:14.21 | findlay | man, there are some wicked cute girls in my ward |
| 05:14.25 | findlay | too bad they're all 2 |
| 05:14.27 | findlay | too bad they're all 21 |
| 05:16.59 | tensai | you're looking for what, 18? |
| 05:17.19 | findlay | 21-30ish |
| 05:18.47 | tensai | the aforementioned hotties seem to fit that category then |
| 05:19.00 | findlay | truly |
| 05:19.16 | findlay | but barely |
| 05:19.36 | tensai | I'm guessing not so much on the mental and emotional scale |
| 05:19.47 | findlay | and what if it's an open interval? What then? Are they then just left to pine away without hope? |
| 05:20.58 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 05:23.31 | fozzmoo | ?? |
| 05:23.50 | tensai | your post about Quick News |
| 05:24.00 | fozzmoo | Oh, you mean... yeah. I usually only read the headlines on /. anymore. |
| 05:24.17 | fozzmoo | Stuff on slashdot is usually a couple days old anyway. |
| 05:24.22 | tensai | sure sure. I hear playboy has news articles too. |
| 05:24.29 | fozzmoo | Really?! |
| 05:24.36 | findlay | what's some good torrents to seed? I want to measure my bandwidth |
| 05:25.49 | findlay | the ubuntu one is going kind of slow |
| 05:26.20 | fozzmoo | Well, I'd say something adult-oriented... you know, just to test bandwidth. |
| 05:28.12 | maquis | ~seen spr |
| 05:28.19 | ibot | spr <n=spr@c-71-204-145-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 41d 7h 38m 55s ago, saying: 'herlo: I can't tonight, tomorrow or wednesday?'. |
| 05:28.26 | findlay | how many torrents do you think rtorrent can concurrently handle? |
| 05:28.34 | findlay | 128? More? |
| 05:29.25 | fozzmoo | Gee. I dunno. I've got 12 running in mine right now. |
| 05:35.47 | findlay | here it goes ... |
| 05:36.12 | findlay | well, it's going :) |
| 05:38.24 | findlay | distro torrent seeding feels like easy charity |
| 05:39.20 | mrpull-lt | charity? |
| 05:39.34 | findlay | sharing the bandwidth and all that stuff |
| 05:44.16 | mrpull-lt | i guess that fits one valid definition of charity |
| 05:44.29 | tensai | fozzmoo: I'm excited to see Android in action. I've played with the emulator and it's cool. it looks like a smart phone I could actually use. |
| 05:45.16 | tensai | I've been trying to think of what other applications I would want. an rss reader would be good. also an ssh client. |
| 05:45.16 | findlay | tensai: if google's as good with their phones as with their web email design |
| 05:46.04 | mrpull-lt | a pda/phone platform isn't going to work for me unless it supports Exchange Activesync natively |
| 05:48.18 | findlay | mrpull-lt: would that be hard to do? |
| 05:49.00 | tensai | seems like you'd just have to know the secret incantations for exchange |
| 05:49.28 | maquis | unofficial poll: what souce-control is your favorite? |
| 05:50.14 | findlay | just wondering |
| 05:50.57 | tensai | maquis: svn |
| 05:51.23 | maquis | i'm interested in trying one of the distrbuted ones, but i'm not yet certain which would be most useful to try... i've used svn in the past |
| 05:51.54 | findlay | maquis: have you been reading Elijah's blogs? |
| 05:52.06 | maquis | findlay: i probably saw it on the utah planet |
| 05:52.06 | mrpull-lt | findlay: i don't think it is difficult. palm licenses it from MS. I'd hope that google does the same. |
| 05:52.16 | maquis | i also am re-reading hans' blog right now |
| 05:52.24 | findlay | http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/ |
| 05:53.27 | tensai | maquis: elg tells me that svk is a good first step for a user familiar with svn |
| 05:54.00 | findlay | still can't seem to get more than 1.5 Mbps |
| 05:54.28 | tensai | do you have a 1.5mbit internet connection? |
| 05:55.52 | findlay | tensai: 14 Mbit symmetric |
| 05:56.13 | tensai | are you trying to max out upload, download or both? |
| 05:56.38 | findlay | both |
| 05:58.15 | tensai | have you tried grabbing the linux kernel? |
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| 05:58.52 | findlay | no |
| 05:58.57 | findlay | good idea |
| 05:59.10 | tensai | if I wasn't in my jammies I could run downtown and plug into a 45mbps connection for you |
| 05:59.44 | findlay | so all the routers from there to here could easily handle 14 Mbit on a single connection? |
| 06:01.38 | findlay | this is interesting. With all 101 torrents going, I'm only getting about 12Kbps on a kernel download |
| 06:01.58 | findlay | maybe it's my wrt router |
| 06:03.05 | tensai | are you running a shaper like elg's wondershaper script? |
| 06:03.18 | findlay | just vanilla openwrt |
| 06:03.51 | findlay | actually, I just stopped some of the torrents and the total throughput dropped significantly |
| 06:04.17 | findlay | like it's trying to partition out 1.5 Mbps |
| 06:04.38 | tensai | is your torrent app shaping? |
| 06:05.06 | findlay | I don't think so. The kernel dl confirms the same behavior |
| 06:05.17 | tensai | have you run a speedtest? speakeasy has a good one. |
| 06:07.01 | maquis | ooh |
| 06:07.05 | maquis | that was interesting print job |
| 06:09.33 | Sargun | maquis, did you flood the printer? |
| 06:10.13 | maquis | well |
| 06:10.24 | maquis | it printed a line of postscript across the first piece of photo paper |
| 06:10.33 | maquis | and then just shot out the rest of them blank |
| 06:12.34 | findlay | ~date |
| 06:12.35 | ibot | It is now 2007.11.26 6:12:35 GMT |
| 06:12.46 | findlay | 6 already? |
| 06:12.58 | findlay | time for sleeping |
| 06:15.20 | elg | maquis: i recomment mercurial. if you're too chicken then I recommend svk |
| 06:17.10 | maquis | elg: i'll probably try mercurial |
| 06:17.15 | maquis | i'm not using it for anything major |
| 06:17.21 | maquis | assuming mercurial works on fbsd |
| 06:17.29 | elg | it ought to |
| 06:17.35 | elg | but see xkcd for caveats |
| 06:17.53 | elg | "40% of OpenBSD installs end in shark attacks. It's their one remaining security issue" |
| 06:18.28 | elg | mercurial is mostly python, with a tad of C. |
| 06:18.29 | maquis | lol |
| 06:22.33 | Sargun | haha |
| 06:22.49 | Sargun | I dislike Hg |
| 06:23.06 | Sargun | it randomly deleted my code |
| 06:23.06 | Sargun | \ |
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| 06:29.41 | elg | Sargun: no that was me |
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| 06:53.25 | findlay | tensai: nope. Looks like my isp lied to me about bandwidth |
| 06:53.55 | fozzmoo | :( |
| 06:54.13 | findlay | I tried it without the router inbetween and I hit the same 1.5 Mbps cap |
| 06:54.36 | findlay | with either wget or rtorrent |
| 07:07.04 | fozzmoo | findlay: What did your ISP advertise? |
| 07:09.34 | findlay | fozzmoo: 14Mbps up and down |
| 07:09.43 | fozzmoo | UTOPIA? |
| 07:09.47 | findlay | iProvo |
| 07:09.50 | fozzmoo | Ah. |
| 07:09.57 | findlay | mstar |
| 07:10.00 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 07:10.17 | findlay | mstar's still way better than comcast |
| 07:10.22 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 07:10.32 | findlay | in almost every possible way |
| 07:10.47 | fozzmoo | Yeah- and I hear they've improved a lot since they first started doing UTOPIA/iProvo. |
| 07:11.10 | findlay | well, the day xmission gets on iprovo is the day I switch :) |
| 07:11.23 | fozzmoo | It hurts me to say this... |
| 07:11.35 | fozzmoo | Well, never mind. :) |
| 07:11.56 | findlay | they've got to have better service than mstar |
| 07:12.11 | fozzmoo | It's certainly a "greener" service. |
| 07:12.26 | findlay | they do in fact. Does mstar have an irc channel? Does xmission? *check* |
| 07:12.40 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 07:13.31 | findlay | well, I'm not believing xmission is the greatest isp of all time |
| 07:13.31 | fozzmoo | findlay: I'll be interested to hear what mstar tells you when you give them the results of your bandwidth tests. |
| 07:13.38 | findlay | me too |
| 07:13.46 | fozzmoo | good luck. |
| 07:13.51 | findlay | thanks |
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| 14:54.36 | herlo | ibot: pong |
| 14:54.37 | ibot | PING! |
| 14:56.41 | herlo | anyone have a t60p with Linux? |
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| 17:12.01 | redbeard2 | ~lart findlay |
| 17:12.01 | ibot | tries to shut findlay up |
| 17:12.02 | shadowwire | ~eat worms |
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| 17:14.56 | Tene | I'm curious about the reason that "Has only used Windows before, but is taking a linux class that requires being comfortable with linux." and "Can't type." are so strongly correlated. |
| 17:16.53 | ^Migs^ | haha, what is this? |
| 17:16.54 | Tene | m'eh, it's not me that's wasting my company's money. |
| 17:17.10 | ^Migs^ | hired a new guy? |
| 17:17.15 | fozzmoo | Sounds like Tene's got a student that is ... inappropriate for the course. |
| 17:17.16 | Tene | migs: I sometimes get people in the RHCT and RHCE classes that have never used linux at all. |
| 17:17.54 | sontek | Hey, anyone have entry level network/tech support positions open? I have a friend who just moved here from Michigan, he needs to get his feet wet =) |
| 17:17.56 | ^Migs^ | oh dear |
| 17:18.10 | ^Migs^ | what area? |
| 17:18.19 | ^Migs^ | don't know if we're hiring in our school district or not |
| 17:19.08 | sontek | ^Migs^: salt lake area |
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| 17:26.06 | ^Migs^ | Salt Lake sucks |
| 17:26.09 | ^Migs^ | Go Ogden! |
| 17:27.37 | fozzmoo | ^Migs^: That has to be the funniest thing I've heard... in a long time. |
| 17:27.50 | fozzmoo | s/heard/read/ |
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| 17:30.47 | ^Migs^ | I aim to please |
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| 17:44.16 | ^Migs^ | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2626202220071126?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews |
| 17:48.00 | rsimpkins | I think Ogden is the one with trouble. While driving through there last week (I-15 construction zone) a guy in front of me smaced the retaining wall because UDOT put the lane to close to it - and it slopes toward the wall. |
| 17:48.07 | rsimpkins | *smacked. |
| 17:48.23 | shadowwire | ouch |
| 17:48.26 | ti`ocpi | o_O |
| 17:48.34 | rsimpkins | He just kept going too. |
| 17:48.40 | ti`ocpi | heh |
| 17:48.53 | rsimpkins | His front end hit, then he side scraped his pretty nice looking truck. |
| 17:48.57 | shadowwire | What did you want him to do, Stop? |
| 17:49.12 | ti`ocpi | Well, if you can still drive your car, and you didn't hit another car, no real reason to stop |
| 17:49.24 | rsimpkins | Yeah, I think after hitting something that is an inidication you need to take a time out. :) |
| 17:49.53 | ti`ocpi | bleh, I almost hit something yesterday driving from SL to Cedar |
| 17:50.09 | shadowwire | Cedar? Im in Cedar. |
| 17:50.10 | ti`ocpi | Big dead deer in hte middle of the freeway, with other parts strewn all about |
| 17:50.15 | ti`ocpi | it was .... gross |
| 17:50.26 | ti`ocpi | Well then hello :D |
| 17:50.28 | shadowwire | Semi kill. |
| 17:50.49 | shadowwire | You live here? |
| 17:50.57 | ti`ocpi | Yup, going to school |
| 17:51.22 | shadowwire | Fun fun... Whats your major? |
| 17:51.55 | shadowwire | I dont miss my school days. |
| 17:53.00 | ti`ocpi | English - teaching emphasis |
| 17:53.24 | shadowwire | Do you speak any other languages? |
| 17:53.31 | ti`ocpi | Nope |
| 17:53.38 | ti`ocpi | Took German in high school but can't remember any of it |
| 17:54.16 | shadowwire | die Wunder dieser Welt |
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| 17:54.40 | shadowwire | thats the only German I know. |
| 17:55.40 | ti`ocpi | Huh. I had to look it up to translate it (I was right with the translation in my mind :D) |
| 17:55.52 | ti`ocpi | I didn't know that phrase |
| 17:55.59 | shadowwire | Its in a song. |
| 17:56.27 | ti`ocpi | huh |
| 17:56.46 | shadowwire | the beginning of Megalomaniac by KMFDM. |
| 17:57.05 | ti`ocpi | KMFDM? I have not heard of this group |
| 17:57.14 | shadowwire | good song actualy. If your into Hard techno. |
| 17:57.38 | shadowwire | Old group. |
| 17:58.47 | ti`ocpi | I like techno |
| 17:58.53 | shadowwire | So are you just beginning school or are close to the end. |
| 17:59.02 | ti`ocpi | I'm in the middle |
| 17:59.09 | shadowwire | sophmore? |
| 17:59.23 | ti`ocpi | sophomore/junior - somewhere in there |
| 17:59.36 | shadowwire | I see. |
| 17:59.51 | dmdavis | elg: you get the tracking number I msg'd you? |
| 17:59.54 | shadowwire | What brings you to mIRC? |
| 18:00.23 | ti`ocpi | what brings me to IRC? I've been around for a while (~^^)~ I just usually lurk rather than talk |
| 18:00.51 | ti`ocpi | Tene was the one who introduced me to it, though. |
| 18:00.53 | shadowwire | Are you from Utah? |
| 18:00.56 | ti`ocpi | That was yeaaaars ago o_O |
| 18:00.57 | ti`ocpi | Yup |
| 18:01.03 | ti`ocpi | Grew up in Taylorsville |
| 18:01.19 | ti`ocpi | heh, only like 4 years ago, but still, seems a lot longer than that |
| 18:01.59 | shadowwire | Do you work while going to school? |
| 18:02.08 | ti`ocpi | Yup, working on campus |
| 18:02.28 | shadowwire | nice. |
| 18:13.13 | Tene | coi ti`ocpi |
| 18:13.24 | Tene | Man, I've been meaning to get some KMFDM for a while now. |
| 18:13.46 | ti`ocpi | .ui coi tene :) |
| 18:14.01 | unum | do the utah perl mongers have their own chat room |
| 18:14.09 | unum | or do they all just hang out here |
| 18:14.28 | shadowwire | yes? |
| 18:14.38 | unum | I'm trying to figure out how to use a schema with postgres |
| 18:14.41 | unum | dbh->do("SET DBD_SCHEMA = 'people'"); |
| 18:14.48 | unum | doesn't seem to be working |
| 18:14.59 | unum | ther is a $ in front of that |
| 18:19.12 | shadowwire | .oiro'e |
| 18:19.49 | Tene | .ue.uu |
| 18:19.54 | Tene | ma nabmi |
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| 18:42.53 | elg | well teacher singular |
| 18:43.17 | elg | the lab is some kind of thing working with dna sequencing |
| 18:43.34 | elg | and the data was provided in an Access "database" |
| 18:43.48 | elg | but what was the data? just 10 name,value pairs. |
| 18:44.01 | elg | the value was of course a long DNA sequence, but still that's just plain stupid |
| 18:44.56 | elg | luckily for him I happened to be by an access computer a few minutes back, which is how I know this |
| 18:45.50 | elg | dmdavis: yes I did thanks. it said it expects to arrive tomorrow. i've since lost it so I have no idea if it will possibly arrive early today instead :) |
| 18:49.52 | dmdavis | elg: looks like it's still on time |
| 18:50.36 | levi | elg: Well, it's pretty simple to use access databases from C# and friends. |
| 18:51.34 | levi | But it would be even easier to just dump it in XML format. |
| 18:52.19 | levi | I feel kind of dirty knowing all this junk about C# and Visual Studio, but that's what school does to you. ;) |
| 18:52.38 | elg | or, you know, a simple comma or : or | delimited file |
| 18:52.49 | levi | elg: That's actually more difficult to use in C#. |
| 18:52.49 | elg | or = delimited |
| 18:53.05 | levi | You'd have to write your own parser and stuff. |
| 18:53.19 | elg | i could do it in C in like 10 lines max |
| 18:53.46 | elg | not a full blown CSV parser, but one that could handle DNA sequence data just fine. there's no escaping commas or quotes or newlines or... |
| 18:53.55 | elg | it's just a bunch of letters after some delimiter |
| 18:54.31 | tensai | when you put it that way, life seems to beautiful |
| 18:54.56 | elg | tensai: well, except I think your DNA has a few "special characters" |
| 18:55.42 | levi | elg: You can read in serialized XML from an ADO.NET database in about 2 lines. |
| 18:56.31 | elg | well, I can read a delmited file into ruby in one line, if we're talking about specific langauges |
| 18:56.41 | elg | C is just the baseline for "hard" |
| 18:56.48 | elg | when it comes to text anyway |
| 18:56.57 | levi | Well, if someone's dumb enough to write a text processing program in C... |
| 18:57.44 | elg | if someone's smart enough to not use C but not smart enough to not use another C-like language (C++, Java, etc.) then what do you call that person? |
| 18:58.50 | levi | Unfortunate? |
| 19:00.15 | levi | I would probably be pretty annoyed at a professor distributing data in an access database, too, but now that I know how all the MS development stuff works, I can see how that decision could be made. |
| 19:01.53 | levi | Distributing the data in access format is still unforgivably wrong, but I think distributing it in ADO.NET's XML serialization format would merely be forgivably wrong. |
| 19:02.11 | elg | i'd agree there |
| 19:02.50 | levi | It's actually very straightforward XML, unless you dump the schema with it as well. |
| 19:03.00 | elg | incidentally, the data was 2.4M, but the CSV version I sent von was 248kb |
| 19:04.01 | levi | What language is he using? |
| 19:04.09 | elg | i don't know |
| 19:05.00 | findlay | tagalog |
| 19:08.34 | elg | apparently he's using C# in the end, and the access code is provided, but he's prototyping in a more agile language |
| 19:10.07 | levi | I think the idea is that he's protyping in a language he's comfortable with. If he was comfortable with C#, he probably could have extracted the data himself without much trouble. |
| 19:11.27 | elg | yeah, though I doubt extracting the data is a big part of why he's prototyping |
| 19:23.01 | herlo | and wonders what other directories he should back up .... |
| 19:23.12 | herlo | besides /etc/ /home/ |
| 19:23.21 | herlo | and his data |
| 19:25.57 | elg | depending on what you run, sometimes there stuff in /var you don't want to lose |
| 19:43.25 | tensai | herlo: /usr/local |
| 19:43.36 | tensai | /opt if you swing that way |
| 19:44.35 | herlo | tensai: why /usr/local ? |
| 19:44.50 | tensai | if you installed anything to /usr/local and wanted to keep it |
| 19:44.57 | tensai | if you haven't, then no problem |
| 19:45.45 | tensai | herlo: /root |
| 19:45.58 | herlo | tensai: ahh |
| 19:46.59 | elg | herlo: your massive pirated movie collection |
| 19:46.59 | tensai | if you run openldap you'd want /var/lib/ldap. if you run asterisk maybe /var/lib/asterisk. |
| 19:47.27 | elg | mysql and friends too I think |
| 19:47.48 | tensai | /var/www |
| 19:48.02 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.05 | herlo | elg: that's already backed up |
| 19:48.20 | herlo | elg: my movie collection, that is |
| 19:48.46 | elg | don't try to back up /mnt/internet |
| 19:49.19 | herlo | elg: wouldn't that be /net/internet ? |
| 19:49.44 | tensai | elg: I copied /mnt/internet to /home, so it's already backed up |
| 19:49.51 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 19:50.03 | elg | brac: grab some of that internet while you're at it |
| 19:50.37 | elg | herlo: of course, the reason you can't back up the internet is because it's not a big truck. it's a series of tubes! |
| 19:50.57 | herlo | elg: ahh, now I get it! |
| 19:51.27 | elg | be sure and back up how to do utos streaming |
| 19:51.40 | elg | unless you still haven't figured it out, in which case you should probably forget to back it up and start over |
| 19:52.04 | herlo | elg: got it... |
| 19:52.13 | herlo | elg: it works great |
| 19:52.20 | elg | nice |
| 19:52.24 | elg | ~taunt herlo |
| 19:53.18 | elg | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 19:53.18 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into Jayce^'s ear |
| 19:53.50 | elg | ~taunt $herlo is <action>taunts $herlo a second time |
| 19:53.50 | ibot | ...but cmd: taunt (.*?) is already something else... |
| 19:53.56 | elg | ~taunt herlo |
| 19:54.07 | elg | ~no, taunt $herlo is <action>taunts $herlo a second time |
| 19:54.15 | elg | dumb bot |
| 19:56.22 | tensai | ~taunt elg |
| 19:57.03 | shadowwire | ~lart taunt |
| 19:57.03 | ibot | whacks taunt with the cluebat |
| 19:57.21 | shadowwire | ~taunt lart? |
| 20:16.57 | shadowwire | ~get larted |
| 20:17.10 | shadowwire | ~smash lart |
| 20:17.30 | shadowwire | ~crush something. |
| 20:17.41 | shadowwire | ~ isnt working |
| 20:17.58 | shadowwire | -lart something |
| 20:18.14 | shadowwire | -crush something |
| 20:18.21 | shadowwire | i give up. |
| 20:19.39 | Tene | ibot: lart shadowwire |
| 20:19.39 | ibot | declares shadowwire a moron |
| 20:19.55 | Tene | ~findlay shadowwire |
| 20:20.00 | Tene | Huh. |
| 20:22.50 | ^Migs^ | what are some fun free things to do in Las Vegas? |
| 20:23.08 | elg | leave |
| 20:23.13 | Tene | migs: arson |
| 20:24.38 | shadowwire | I would agree with elg. |
| 20:24.55 | Tene | not with me? :( |
| 20:24.56 | ^Migs^ | you guys are no help |
| 20:25.24 | ^Migs^ | besides, matches and gasoline cost money. I said FREE. |
| 20:25.27 | shadowwire | Of coarse there is always the "Star Treak experiance" |
| 20:25.28 | thaddeusq | ^Migs^: there's not much of anything to do in Vegas that is Free |
| 20:25.31 | Tene | migs: steal them |
| 20:25.43 | shadowwire | Oh.... Free... |
| 20:25.59 | shadowwire | I came in late on the conversation. |
| 20:26.37 | shadowwire | Go to Nelis and watch the planes take off. |
| 20:26.37 | shadowwire | Walk the strip. |
| 20:26.44 | elg | watch the fountains |
| 20:26.49 | shadowwire | Just dont look down. |
| 20:26.54 | elg | but it's more fun to watch the mentos guys imitating the fountains |
| 20:27.27 | thaddeusq | see how many of the "advertisement cards" you can collect in a half hour period |
| 20:27.34 | shadowwire | Mentos guy? |
| 20:27.50 | shadowwire | Like I said, Dont lookk down while walking the strip. |
| 20:28.09 | Tene | I've heard of people gathering "Advertisement cards" and playing a pokemon-like game with them. |
| 20:28.17 | Tene | Stats based on properties of the pictures. |
| 20:28.35 | shadowwire | Hmmm. Sounds rather crude. |
| 20:28.51 | elg | http://www.eepybird.com/ |
| 20:28.52 | shadowwire | Pokemon I mean. |
| 20:28.53 | brac | [EepyBird.com - Entertainment for the Curious Mind] |
| 20:29.22 | elg | specifically, http://www.eepybird.com/dcm1.html |
| 20:29.23 | brac | [EepyBird.com: Experiment #137 - The Extreme Diet Coke and Mentos Experiments] |
| 20:33.12 | shadowwire | Thats very entertaining. |
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| 20:34.13 | shadowwire | I wonder what would happen if you were to drink a bunch of Diet Coke and then swallow some Mentos? |
| 20:35.14 | levi | You would EXPLODE!!!!!11 |
| 20:35.26 | shadowwire | I doubt that seriously. |
| 20:35.40 | shadowwire | Exlosive vomiting perhaps. |
| 20:36.09 | shadowwire | Explode!! 11? Which ones that? |
| 20:37.41 | elg | shadowwire: yes, and as I found out when we went to vegas, much more entertaining than the actual bellagio fountains |
| 20:40.58 | elg | if anything awry happened, it would probably be explosive burping |
| 20:41.17 | elg | notice in the video how they can cap the bottles with their hands |
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| 21:45.52 | ^Migs^ | GO IBOT! |
| 22:03.59 | shadowwire | elg: I think they have some sort of quater turn ball vlave or something on the top. a gerden hose barely shoots that far, and an average home has 70 lbs of pressure at the street. |
| 22:08.31 | shadowwire | My home has 90 lbs |
| 22:08.51 | shadowwire | ~go ibot |
| 22:09.05 | shadowwire | ~leave ibot |
| 22:09.06 | Tene | ~gogogadget ibot |
| 22:09.12 | shadowwire | nice. |
| 22:21.41 | elg | shadowwire: i'm not sure the hose comparison is valid |
| 22:22.03 | elg | how far does the same water shoot out of a nozzle? out of a bucket? |
| 22:22.21 | elg | what about all the effort of moving the water through the hose before it gets to the mouth. |
| 22:22.26 | elg | surely we need a physicist |
| 22:38.43 | levi | I love quarter turn ball valves. |
| 22:39.27 | levi | I always use them when I have to replace crappy plastic toilet water supply valves. |
| 22:50.11 | findlay-w | ~physics elg |
| 22:54.36 | tensai | levi: is that crappy plastic or crappy toilet water? |
| 22:56.49 | levi | tensai: crappy valves. |
| 22:56.56 | levi | tensai: Well, crappy plastic valves. |
| 22:57.22 | tensai | that's good. if you have crappy water in your supply line, you've got your toilet hooked up wrong. |
| 22:57.32 | levi | The kind that, after they age for a bit, start leaking when they're not at full-on or full-off, and have handles that snap off if they get stuck. |
| 22:59.42 | levi | Nice solid brass quarter-turn ball valves don't have those problems! |
| 23:12.03 | findlay-w | ironic that I see my brothers every day available on ICMP but I still don't talk regularly with them |
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| 23:13.52 | elg | so my car is acting up. it starts but then dies immediately. I managed to get it started once and it ran fine until we turned it off and then couldn't get it started again |
| 23:14.27 | elg | 91 honda accord, fuel injected. it's definitely not the starter, and definitely something with the fuel supply |
| 23:18.07 | shadowwire | Have you changed the fuel filter lately? |
| 23:18.39 | elg | me personally, no. don't know but suspect probably at a recent oil change or whatnot it was. I can probably check and see if it looks new, and barring that look at the receipts |
| 23:19.15 | elg | it has been doing this once every great while for some time, usually to my wife. I've always been able to start it with a magic touch on the gas but not today |
| 23:19.20 | shadowwire | Most tune up places dont change the fuel filter unless you ask. |
| 23:19.25 | findlay-w | engine light? |
| 23:19.28 | elg | then the rest of the time it works fine |
| 23:19.30 | elg | no check engine |
| 23:19.48 | findlay-w | maybe your ECU is bad |
| 23:19.59 | elg | always the pessimist |
| 23:20.07 | shadowwire | I doubt it. |
| 23:20.09 | findlay-w | engine control unit |
| 23:20.21 | shadowwire | Electronic control unit |
| 23:20.26 | findlay-w | oh |
| 23:21.01 | elg | can I probably tell by looking at it if the fuel filter is gunky? |
| 23:21.51 | shadowwire | No. |
| 23:22.28 | shadowwire | The fule filter in a small can like object. If you open it, you cant close it. |
| 23:22.49 | shadowwire | fule, like Yule. |
| 23:22.56 | findlay-w | it's like an oil filter |
| 23:23.05 | shadowwire | Yea |
| 23:23.05 | findlay-w | just a metal can with pleated paper inside |
| 23:23.14 | findlay-w | to be changed out regularly |
| 23:23.49 | findlay-w | buy some good fuel system cleaner while you're at it |
| 23:24.00 | shadowwire | It could also be the fuel pump. |
| 23:24.05 | findlay-w | the expensive kind is usually worth it |
| 23:24.09 | findlay-w | yeah, that too |
| 23:24.22 | elg | \/ignore findlay-w |
| 23:24.25 | shadowwire | When you turn the key on (not to start) do you hear a buzzzz click? |
| 23:24.32 | findlay-w | hey, what did I say? |
| 23:25.06 | elg | shadowwire: no, didn't notice anything unusual |
| 23:25.08 | findlay-w | maybe open the rear door so you can hear the fuel pump |
| 23:27.23 | shadowwire | When the fuel pump initialy pushes the fuel to the injectors it will make a buzz click sound. |
| 23:27.47 | shadowwire | You can hear it better from inside with the door closed. |
| 23:27.57 | findlay-w | so you're listening for the fuel injectors then? |
| 23:28.06 | shadowwire | The fuel pump is located inside the gass tank. |
| 23:28.13 | findlay-w | or nearby |
| 23:28.16 | shadowwire | No, the pump. |
| 23:28.27 | findlay-w | you mean for his car? |
| 23:28.51 | elg | shadowwire: i have noticed that right after releasing the key when the engine dies, if I push on the gas i will hear some sounds. had my wife do it with me under the hood and it sounds like it's coming from the air filter box. may be normal sounds |
| 23:28.52 | shadowwire | No, its located inside the gas tank on any honda acord 1988 or later. |
| 23:28.53 | elg | puffing sounds |
| 23:29.22 | shadowwire | Yea, thats normal. |
| 23:29.23 | findlay-w | shadowwire: well, all I know is that my fuel pump is not in the gas tank and I can hear it better with the door open |
| 23:29.26 | elg | so I *should* hear a buzz click? |
| 23:29.36 | shadowwire | What car do you drive. |
| 23:29.42 | shadowwire | Yes |
| 23:29.44 | findlay-w | a subaru |
| 23:29.50 | findlay-w | 1988 |
| 23:30.00 | shadowwire | let me guess 1993? |
| 23:30.17 | shadowwire | 1988 subaru? |
| 23:30.20 | findlay-w | yeah |
| 23:31.06 | shadowwire | Im not sure what year they started puting the fule pump in the tank on a subaru is, but Ill bet it was around 1990. |
| 23:31.18 | findlay-w | I like it outside |
| 23:31.28 | findlay-w | it was way easier to change it when I did :) |
| 23:32.06 | findlay-w | from the junkyard cars I've seen I think it was 1992-4ish |
| 23:32.15 | shadowwire | Indeed. Thats why they started putting them in the tank. :) |
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| 23:33.04 | shadowwire | elg: so, do you hear the buzz click when you first turn the ignition on? |
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| 23:38.00 | elg | well, the answer is a solid "I can't tell". I can't tell because the stupid seat belt is running at that moment |
| 23:38.17 | elg | or, the beep beep beep if the door is open |
| 23:38.46 | elg | incidentally it started right up after I tried listening for the pump |
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| 23:42.58 | shadowwire | Perhaps you have water in a line and it was frozen. |
| 23:43.15 | elg | -metar klu |
| 23:43.16 | brac | couldn't find weather data for KLU |
| 23:43.18 | elg | -metar klru |
| 23:43.18 | brac | KLRU 262332Z AUTO 16004KT 10SM CLR 10/04 A3024 RMK AO2 |
| 23:43.28 | elg | it did get below freezing the other night |
| 23:43.41 | shadowwire | Fuel dryer is only a couple of bucks, try using some. |
| 23:44.04 | elg | i'll check to see if the fuel filter was replaced recently and try that too |
| 23:44.17 | elg | i did just put some more oil in - some high mileage stuff |
| 23:44.21 | elg | yesterday, that is |
| 23:44.36 | elg | 5w30 |
| 23:44.54 | shadowwire | Fuel dryer goes in the gas tank. |
| 23:45.07 | elg | well yes |
| 23:45.39 | shadowwire | ok, sorry you have to be specific with some people. |
| 23:46.16 | elg | np. I know the feeling :) |
| 23:46.23 | shadowwire | you wouldnt believe what people will do to a car. |
| 23:47.06 | shadowwire | Put brake fluid in the oil, Transmission fluid, WATER. |
| 23:47.45 | shadowwire | A girl i know at college thought that there was only one type of fluid in a car. |
| 23:48.05 | shadowwire | I convinced her that she needed blinker fluid. |
| 23:49.38 | dataw0lf | in the Army we used to get privates with "summer/winter air" for the tires. |
| 23:58.23 | shadowwire | That a good one. |
| 23:59.02 | shadowwire | sorry, sometimes i speak chinglish. |