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| 00:15.11 | findlay | ~tetris Lakshmi |
| 00:15.31 | findlay | ~onjoin Lakshmi |
| 00:15.32 | ibot | onjoin for lakshmi set by lakshmi on Fri Nov 16 13:24:34 2007: you are the coolest person here |
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| 01:15.32 | brac | almost forgot about said things, that is passed a musical genre to a CD in the lojban community. |
| 01:46.21 | Tene | -chat about ibot |
| 01:46.22 | brac | ibot was sleeping |
| 01:50.05 | levi | -chat about Tene is |
| 01:50.05 | brac | Tene is very confused. |
| 01:52.20 | Tene | -chat levi wants |
| 01:52.21 | brac | levi wants to portray a good match |
| 01:52.27 | Tene | -chat I want |
| 01:52.28 | brac | I want to spend |
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| 03:44.49 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 03:44.50 | ibot | wallops atoponce with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 03:48.33 | sontek | elg: ping! |
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| 05:04.05 | elg | pong |
| 05:04.14 | elg | sontek: pong |
| 05:04.35 | sontek | elg: do you still work on the xml genealogy stuff? |
| 05:05.12 | elg | not recently |
| 05:05.15 | elg | but what's up? |
| 05:06.09 | sontek | elg: a coworker and I re-implemented gedcom in xml (and fixed things that didn't make sense) |
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| 05:06.36 | elg | using the same model? |
| 05:07.09 | sontek | elg:we used the gedcom model |
| 05:07.24 | sontek | elg: but thought it'd be cool to work with you on everything |
| 05:08.43 | elg | i'm happy to be your sounding board |
| 05:08.59 | elg | i'm not a big fan of the gedcom model. but neither do I think the GDM model is practical |
| 05:09.08 | sontek | gedcom model is terrible |
| 05:09.27 | elg | do you know anyone at northface university? |
| 05:09.31 | elg | or that was there? |
| 05:10.05 | sontek | elg: I only know a few people who are attending there now, I know a lot of their graduates |
| 05:10.15 | sontek | elg: we are doing this on our spare time, not for school or anything |
| 05:10.42 | sontek | elg: Joe's father does a lot of a genealogy stuff and had us fix a few phpgedview problems, so we decided to make a good standard |
| 05:10.49 | elg | i interviewed for a code support position there, for the genealogy stuff they were doing. I was impressed by the model they were using but unfortunately didn't get a chance to look at it closely |
| 05:10.51 | tensai | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 05:10.51 | ibot | drops a truckload of VAXen on Jayce^ |
| 05:10.54 | sontek | so we first implemented gedcom in xml, so we could transform that into our own xml |
| 05:11.27 | elg | I have a script that will convert gedcom to xml programatically |
| 05:11.28 | sontek | elg: I know the main guy that was working on that, I didn't know they made their own model for it |
| 05:11.43 | sontek | elg: mind sharing? =) |
| 05:11.48 | elg | if you could extract it from them, I'd be indebted :) |
| 05:11.55 | elg | sure, jas |
| 05:12.55 | sontek | I'll talk to him |
| 05:14.21 | elg | http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/redcom/ |
| 05:14.21 | brac | [Index of /tmp/redcom] |
| 05:14.21 | elg | grab the tarball |
| 05:14.21 | elg | or browse the source |
| 05:14.26 | elg | cd examples; ruby xml.rb < royal.ged |
| 05:15.38 | elg | i know they stopped using it actively, and it more or less fell by the wayside (at least, that's what I've been able to glean) |
| 05:15.51 | elg | one guy said he'd get it to me, but he must have forgot |
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| 05:16.56 | sontek | yeah, they stopped doing their genos project in semester 8 |
| 05:17.21 | sontek | but the main developers for it are working at Extend Health in Sugarhouse now |
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| 07:02.19 | herlo | does plug have an ical feed? |
| 07:02.27 | herlo | what about sllug? |
| 07:04.06 | herlo | I guess its not a feed, but hey |
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| 07:14.30 | Lakshmi | what/ |
| 07:14.36 | Lakshmi | Sargun, |
| 07:14.55 | Sargun | Lakshmi, |
| 07:15.06 | Lakshmi | how are you? |
| 07:15.41 | findlay | I'm fine |
| 07:15.53 | Lakshmi | let me properly direct that question |
| 07:15.58 | Lakshmi | sargun, how are you? |
| 07:16.03 | findlay | Sargun is fine |
| 07:16.25 | Lakshmi | how do you know if sargun is fine or not? |
| 07:16.31 | Lakshmi | i think i need him to tell me |
| 07:16.32 | findlay | I know everything |
| 07:16.38 | findlay | just ask tensai |
| 07:16.41 | findlay | just ask Tene |
| 07:17.01 | Sargun | Is sargun fine? |
| 07:17.07 | Sargun | I want a SPARC laptop |
| 07:17.10 | findlay | indeed |
| 07:17.20 | findlay | but tomorrow you're going to feel somewhat lethargic |
| 07:17.43 | findlay | and forget to finish working on that perl module |
| 07:22.20 | vontrapp | elmo rofl, with cencored fuzzy pixels in front of him! |
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| 07:28.57 | herlo | ~date findlay |
| 07:28.57 | ibot | you date findlay |
| 07:29.08 | herlo | ibot: but I don't wanna |
| 07:29.09 | ibot | You don't wanna? |
| 07:29.13 | herlo | ibot: nope |
| 07:29.14 | ibot | yes |
| 07:29.25 | herlo | ibot: nope |
| 07:29.25 | ibot | yes |
| 07:29.31 | herlo | ibot: why? |
| 07:29.31 | ibot | Why? Because you touch yourself at night. |
| 07:29.39 | herlo | LOL |
| 07:32.02 | vontrapp | hahahahaa! |
| 07:33.09 | findlay | ibot: no why is wherefore |
| 07:33.10 | ibot | findlay: what are you talking about? |
| 07:33.16 | findlay | hm |
| 07:33.27 | findlay | ~literal why |
| 07:33.27 | ibot | "why" is "<reply> Why? Because you touch yourself at night." |
| 07:33.33 | findlay | ~lateral why |
| 07:33.43 | findlay | ~literal why is wherefore |
| 07:33.44 | ibot | why not? |
| 07:33.55 | findlay | silly bot |
| 07:34.09 | findlay | pumped full of foul crudery |
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| 15:48.52 | decriptor | uen school stuff crashed and all of the data since Tues is lost :? |
| 15:48.56 | decriptor | :/ |
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| 17:43.09 | bonez39 | My keyboard is plugged into a non-powered KVM switch....Can I unplug the keyboard from said switch, and plug in a different keyboard, without powering down the three machines connected to the KVM, without causing any trouble? |
| 17:43.38 | bonez39 | Or is it best for a keyboard to unplug it only after powering everything down? |
| 17:45.42 | bonez39 | ?? |
| 17:50.11 | bonez39 | ? |
| 17:50.29 | bonez39 | my keyboard has a PS/2 connector.....can it be disconnected, or might it cause trouble? |
| 17:50.57 | nick125 | It should work without rebooting (least when I've done it) |
| 17:51.18 | bonez39 | is it possible it could blow out the ps/2 controller? |
| 17:51.42 | nick125 | I haven't heard of such thing happening before. |
| 17:51.54 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 17:54.43 | bonez39 | well, nick125 I tried it and the other keyboard, the one with the mapping i LIKE, didn't respond when I plugged it in..... |
| 17:55.07 | bonez39 | I guess the question then is can I remap the current keyboard to the way my other favorite one is mapped? |
| 17:55.53 | nick125 | How do you like it mapped? |
| 17:56.05 | bonez39 | the one I like, has a ps/2 port, plus a USB port too.....with the keyboard......I am guessing if I power everything down, plug it in, and then power it up.....it will work then... |
| 17:56.43 | bonez39 | it's the way the | key is mapped...just the layout, shape of the keys..I think I'll just power it all down, put on the new keyboard and start it that way... |
| 17:57.14 | bonez39 | back in a bit |
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| 18:15.07 | bonez39 | nick125: what's weird...is that the other keyboard, which worked fine without my KVM switch, now, doesn't work at all.......I think the attached USB connector on the keyboard cable, needs to draw power...by being attached directly.....to an available USB port.... |
| 18:15.40 | nick125 | You could try it and see what happens *shrugs* |
| 18:17.39 | bonez39 | it' |
| 18:17.48 | bonez39 | it's an MS keyboard.....go figure... |
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| 18:35.53 | brac | *Everything* in the world? |
| 18:36.05 | findlay | yes |
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| 20:29.07 | nick125 | Anyone here know of an ADSL splitter that works in the NID boxes that Qwest provides (I believe they are like corning brand, or something)? |
| 20:40.47 | nick125 | Or is it even possible to get Qwest to provide one of those? |
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| 21:09.23 | rsimpkins | Sometimes I get the sense that freenode staff view users as a pain, and wish they'd all leave. |
| 21:09.37 | Sargun | yeah |
| 21:09.41 | Sargun | isn't that awesome! |
| 21:09.42 | rsimpkins | It seems to be worse after the unfortunate accident with lilo. |
| 21:09.45 | Sargun | :-P |
| 21:09.50 | rsimpkins | I miss lilo. |
| 21:10.05 | Sargun | rsimpkins, The only good admin that I've seen is christel. |
| 21:10.17 | rsimpkins | christel is good, but lilo was the heart and soul. |
| 21:36.10 | nick125 | While I've had my moments with lilo, things seemed better back then. |
| 21:42.46 | Sargun | Freenode = Evil |
| 21:42.54 | Sargun | EvilNode |
| 21:43.07 | Sargun | ReallyEvilNode. |
| 21:44.06 | nick125 | I'm debating on getting a dry loop for my DSL. |
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| 21:44.25 | nick125 | There's something in the house that's interfearing with my DSL. |
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| 21:45.10 | nick125 | I disconnected all of my phone lines except for my DSL line, and my attentuation went down and my line margins went up. |
| 21:53.33 | fozzmoo | nick125: You've got filters on all the other devices? |
| 21:53.42 | nick125 | fozzmoo: yes |
| 21:54.01 | fozzmoo | I wonder if they're sucky filters. |
| 21:54.13 | nick125 | They're what came in the box |
| 21:54.19 | nick125 | I believe they are my old Speakeasy-supplied filters. |
| 22:19.34 | Sargun | nick125, one of your devices is bad? |
| 22:19.43 | nick125 | Sargun: dude. |
| 22:19.48 | nick125 | There's only one device connected. |
| 22:20.13 | elg | get an ATA with fxo and fxs |
| 22:20.30 | Sargun | I disconnected all of my phone lines except for my DSL line, and my attentuation went down and my line margins went up. |
| 22:20.36 | Sargun | what other devices were connected? |
| 22:20.37 | elg | plug your phone lines into the ATA, and the ATA into your filtered DSL |
| 22:20.49 | nick125 | Sargun: Same thing that happened here. |
| 22:20.53 | elg | i don't know what a dry loop is |
| 22:20.57 | elg | but that might be cheaper |
| 22:20.58 | nick125 | Sargun: a cordless phone and the DSL modem. That's it. |
| 22:21.09 | nick125 | dry loop is a dedicated drop for the DSL. |
| 22:21.13 | elg | it might be the lines themselves |
| 22:21.43 | nick125 | Qwest fails at maintaining their network :/ |
| 22:22.10 | nick125 | Didn't Qwest get fined by the NMPRC for failing to meet commitments about network improvements? |
| 22:22.15 | Sargun | That's not what drive loop is. |
| 22:22.19 | Sargun | nick125, I'm repeating what you said |
| 22:22.21 | Sargun | quoting. |
| 22:22.25 | nick125 | Sargun: oh |
| 22:22.26 | nick125 | lol |
| 22:22.29 | Sargun | the cordless phone sucks? |
| 22:22.44 | nick125 | I'll try unplugging it...but I think it's the mess of 20 phone lines up in the attic. |
| 22:23.06 | Sargun | Don't you have a homerun? |
| 22:23.44 | nick125 | Sargun: I do. |
| 22:23.55 | Sargun | why don't you put a filter |
| 22:23.59 | Sargun | before the filter? |
| 22:24.20 | nick125 | I'm trying to either get a splitter or get Qwest to put a splitter in |
| 22:25.44 | nick125 | My attenuation went down when I unplugged that cordless phone. |
| 22:25.44 | nick125 | But now my line refuses to sync at higher than 6208kbit. |
| 22:26.49 | rsimpkins | I don't want to sound rude, but is Carl trying to sell John Deere tractors? |
| 22:27.04 | nick125 | I plug the phone back in, my attenuation goes up and my line sync goes up. |
| 22:27.11 | rsimpkins | http://www.deere.com - http://www.agoracart.com/ |
| 22:27.50 | rsimpkins | The yellow on the green is very much a John Deere brand identifying thing. |
| 22:27.55 | rsimpkins | In certain circles any how. |
| 22:29.27 | rsimpkins | Oh dear. ;) |
| 22:29.36 | nick125 | Sargun: Any ideas? |
| 22:30.08 | Sargun | nick125, uhh... hide? |
| 22:30.13 | rsimpkins | The web site designer is an ex cop, and is joined by some other geriatrics. :) |
| 22:30.33 | Sargun | wait if you unplug the existing house wiring at the NID |
| 22:30.38 | Sargun | and just leave the homerun plugged in |
| 22:30.40 | Sargun | what happens? |
| 22:33.43 | nick125 | Sargun: margins go up, attenuation goes down |
| 22:34.01 | Sargun | did you use twisted pair for you homerun? |
| 22:34.03 | Sargun | Shielded? |
| 22:34.07 | nick125 | CAT5e |
| 22:34.11 | nick125 | wtf |
| 22:34.31 | nick125 | I replaced that filter with a new one, and now the line is screwy again. |
| 22:34.53 | Sargun | So, you need a phone line on the circuit |
| 22:35.03 | Sargun | otherwise it gets screwed up? |
| 22:36.40 | nick125 | I have no idea |
| 22:38.54 | nick125 | Sargun: if I disconnect the rest of the house, my margins improve. |
| 22:39.23 | Sargun | but your sync rate goes down? |
| 22:39.45 | nick125 | nope, it stays the same |
| 22:39.51 | nick125 | i believe |
| 22:39.56 | nick125 | lemme go disconnect it, brb |
| 22:41.46 | nick125 | Yeah, it syncs up at the same sync rate |
| 22:49.45 | Sargun | just don't plug-in the house then? |
| 22:50.05 | Sargun | Does your modem have a built-in filter? |
| 22:52.57 | Sargun | I wish mochikit was still under development |
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| 23:06.44 | findlay | ~moch Sargun |
| 23:07.08 | dmdavis | what BYU CS classes were data structure classes? (undergrad) |
| 23:20.45 | pjw | CS 235/236 |
| 23:25.23 | dmdavis | OK, that's what I was thinking. thanks |
| 23:25.49 | dmdavis | is 142 the only one that is an actual OO class? |
| 23:26.05 | dmdavis | I'm filling out grad school apps, but I graduated 5 years ago, so my memory's rusty :) |
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| 23:30.18 | pjw | I don't know what you mean by "actual OO class" OO concepts *should* be stressed in 142, 235 & 236, but none of them are OO classes per se. |
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| 23:31.57 | dmdavis | OK. I remembered learning OO in 142, but couldn't remember if that was a primary focus or not |
| 23:32.18 | nick125_ | Sargun: Zoom X5 GS Ver 1.0.1-00 |
| 23:32.19 | pjw | yeah, you should have seen OO in 142, 235, and 236. |
| 23:32.38 | dmdavis | thanks |
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