| 00:00.31 | tensai | ~format amazing |
| 00:01.24 | dmdavis | with a simple directive (like a %s in printf) it can print numbers in human readable form or roman numerals, print strings capitalizing the first word or every word, it can pluralize words based on parameters, etc. |
| 00:02.04 | dmdavis | human readable, meaning 12345 -> twelve thousand three hundred and forty five. |
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| 00:15.04 | Supaplex_ | uhm. XM hiccup. |
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| 00:32.21 | levi | Hmm, lisp FORMAT makes dmdavis excited? That's scary. |
| 00:33.18 | levi | rsimpkins: Harrison Bergeron is the title (and main character of) a Kurt Vonnegut short story. |
| 00:34.09 | rsimpkins | levi: Cool. He is also someone at UVSC that signed up for a PLUG account. |
| 00:34.58 | levi | I am doubtful that it's his real name. |
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| 00:39.59 | levi | I don't see a Harrison Bergeron in the directory. |
| 00:43.32 | rsimpkins | levi: K, I'll remove him then. |
| 00:43.39 | rsimpkins | Don't want any trouble makers - thanks for checking. |
| 00:44.12 | rsimpkins | levi: When you said directory, di dyou mean PLUG or some UVSC one? |
| 00:44.13 | levi | I mean the plug directory. |
| 00:44.28 | levi | The UVSC student directory is apparently print-only, and I don't have one. |
| 00:44.35 | levi | I tried looking onlien. |
| 00:44.38 | levi | Er, online. |
| 00:44.41 | rsimpkins | Accounts don't show up on plug until they log in at least once. |
| 00:44.47 | levi | Ahh, ok. |
| 00:44.55 | rsimpkins | On purpose. :) |
| 00:45.32 | rsimpkins | Usually people fill out several fields when signing up. When someone does the bare minimum I get more careful. |
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| 00:47.30 | levi | I take it this guy filled the bare minimum? |
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| 00:56.07 | levi | I did a whitepages.com search, and there are no Harrison Bergerons listed in Utah. |
| 00:57.42 | levi | About 15 Bergerons, though, so it's conceivable that some of them were twisted enough to name their kid Harrison. |
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| 00:59.36 | brac | ~lart had |
| 00:59.36 | ibot | executes killall -HUP had |
| 01:09.31 | Supaplex | ... locate pen... locaaattee... pen... *@$(!* |
| 01:10.44 | Supaplex | wahou. on printer between papers. check. |
| 01:12.46 | tuple | sweet. my outline and ToC and References and frontmatter all come to 20 pages |
| 01:12.57 | tuple | now to fill in about 20 pages of text... |
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| 01:18.16 | Supaplex | ~curse non-free flash |
| 01:18.17 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, non-free flash ! |
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| 01:48.25 | findlay | sjansen: gnome-screensaver is crap |
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| 02:20.20 | herlo | http://stream.utosf.org |
| 02:20.22 | brac | [Icecast Streaming Media Server] |
| 02:20.44 | herlo | join #utos-meeting if you're interested |
| 02:21.25 | findlay | herlo: I'm impressed by your sheer number of utos* acronyms you're capable of coming up with :) |
| 02:21.57 | herlo | findlay: I'm sure I'll come up with more |
| 02:22.18 | findlay | great |
| 02:22.40 | pjw | Is PLUG having meetings anymore? |
| 02:23.24 | findlay | 2nd Wednesday's? |
| 02:23.41 | pjw | Dans Guardian blocks jessestay.com |
| 02:23.41 | herlo | pjw next week |
| 02:24.30 | pjw | I was trying to find out from the Web site. Not much help... |
| 02:25.21 | findlay | ~date |
| 02:25.27 | ibot | It is now 2007.11.09 2:25:27 GMT |
| 02:25.46 | elg | -metar |
| 02:25.48 | brac | KCLE 090151Z 16007KT 10SM OVC075 06/M03 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP182 T00561033 |
| 02:26.53 | findlay | ~convert 1 carat to picoelvis |
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| 02:44.48 | findlay | yay for the Pirate Act! |
| 02:58.57 | levi | elg: Were those page counts for your dissertation? |
| 03:32.52 | levi | It's so bizarre to look at the back of this laptop and find a parallel port. |
| 04:13.24 | findlay | is it parallel? |
| 04:13.32 | findlay | or orthogonal? |
| 04:13.55 | levi | Definitely parallel. |
| 04:14.37 | levi | An orthogonal port would be interesting, but it would have to have a low pin count to be small enough to fit on a laptop. |
| 04:14.45 | findlay | heh |
| 04:15.18 | findlay | someday I will have a laptop |
| 04:15.26 | findlay | and then I will be cool |
| 04:15.28 | findlay | like levi |
| 04:15.50 | findlay | a laptop so small it can only have parallel ports |
| 04:25.08 | nick125 | I can't believe that my treo actually hotsyncs correctly. |
| 04:27.27 | nick125 | The only thing that is a pain is when the ttyUSB changes |
| 04:27.27 | pjw | beamer looks pretty cool |
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| 05:12.05 | brac | while I'm crusing in the late 90s.... :-p |
| 05:12.11 | elg | levi: no, comps |
| 05:12.23 | elg | for dissertation it would be more like fill 200 pages |
| 05:13.00 | sontek | nick125: in linux? |
| 05:13.13 | sontek | nick125: what app are you using? I tried jpilot and it didn't work |
| 05:19.05 | nick125 | sontek: jpilot is what I'm using |
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| 05:40.30 | Lakshmi | hey hey |
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| 05:54.33 | Sargun | Lakshmi, |
| 05:54.34 | Sargun | nick125, |
| 06:00.39 | Lakshmi | hey |
| 06:00.41 | Lakshmi | sargun |
| 06:00.45 | Lakshmi | sup? |
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| 06:39.01 | levi | elg: comps? |
| 06:39.28 | levi | My guess: comprehensive exams? |
| 06:41.11 | Sargun | Do programmers have hearts? |
| 06:49.28 | Lakshmi | sargun yes |
| 06:49.32 | Lakshmi | they btter have hearts |
| 06:50.46 | rsimpkins | herlo: awake? |
| 06:51.44 | Sargun | uhh |
| 06:51.48 | levi | Sargun: I am a programmer, and I have a heart. Otherwise, blood would have a difficult time making it to my brain. |
| 06:52.02 | Lakshmi | prolly not that kinda a heart |
| 06:52.09 | Lakshmi | levi |
| 06:52.25 | levi | What other kinds of hearts are there? :P |
| 06:52.42 | Lakshmi | hah i think u know |
| 06:52.44 | Lakshmi | or ask sargun! |
| 06:55.52 | Sargun | uhh |
| 06:57.01 | findlay | Sargun: why? |
| 06:57.20 | Sargun | What about management? |
| 06:57.25 | findlay | yes |
| 06:57.46 | Sargun | You sure? |
| 06:57.59 | findlay | ~sure |
| 06:58.00 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, sure is slow |
| 06:58.05 | findlay | ha ha |
| 07:05.29 | sontek | noooo |
| 07:14.33 | rsimpkins | k, woot the cat is out of the bag. |
| 07:14.42 | rsimpkins | Be here on the 14th, or be square: http://plug.org/omniture |
| 07:18.49 | rsimpkins | So who is NOT coming on the 14th so I can twist yur arm? |
| 07:19.13 | rsimpkins | Good. That's what I like to hear. I'll see you all there then. :) |
| 07:19.29 | levi | Not me. :) |
| 07:20.42 | rsimpkins | levi: you want to come though huh? |
| 07:20.56 | levi | Yeah, but I have class. |
| 07:21.12 | rsimpkins | levi: It must be a really important/hard class. |
| 07:21.32 | levi | I make a general rule of never skipping class now. |
| 07:22.31 | sontek | rsimpkins: I'll come! but you have to give me pizza |
| 07:22.52 | rsimpkins | sontek: That might acutally happen - every time! |
| 07:22.59 | rsimpkins | sontek: no promises tho. |
| 07:23.19 | sontek | ok, the picture have me convinced, i'll come work for you guys |
| 07:23.20 | rsimpkins | sontek: There is a budget for PLUG meetings now, but I don't know what it is. |
| 07:23.21 | sontek | i'll start in December |
| 07:23.32 | sontek | nice! |
| 07:23.52 | rsimpkins | sontek: The vending machiens are subsidised. |
| 07:24.02 | rsimpkins | $.25 for a can of pop. |
| 07:24.08 | rsimpkins | Most of the candy is about .$35 |
| 07:24.20 | rsimpkins | Some other goodies, ice cream, etc. |
| 07:24.29 | rsimpkins | Some of the machines take credit cards. |
| 07:24.57 | levi | You have to pay for drinks and snacks? ;) |
| 07:25.12 | sontek | do you know how the developer environment is? |
| 07:25.14 | rsimpkins | levi: Some yes, some no. |
| 07:25.40 | rsimpkins | levi: Like - hot chocolate is free. |
| 07:25.45 | rsimpkins | levi: A few other things like that. |
| 07:26.44 | rsimpkins | We ain't google... yet. :) |
| 07:27.09 | rsimpkins | I think we plan on buying them in Q2 of '09. |
| 07:27.46 | levi | We've got a cube with a mini-fridge and boxes and boxes of sodas, water, various snacks, etc. |
| 07:28.17 | rsimpkins | sontek: They do mostly PHP on the front end client facing stuff, and C/C++ a lot on the back. |
| 07:28.37 | rsimpkins | levi: That's nice. If we had one of those it would be empty by 9:30. |
| 07:28.48 | rsimpkins | levi: I really wish we had some more stuff like that though. |
| 07:29.02 | rsimpkins | levi: Too many people would take advantage I think. |
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| 07:30.44 | levi | We've all got a set of these headphones, too: http://www.amazon.com/AKG-271-Studio-K271/dp/B0002FO66M |
| 07:31.44 | levi | And this set of studio monitor speakers: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/JBL-LSR4328P-Studio-Monitor-Pair?sku=600377&src=3WFRWXX |
| 07:31.52 | brac | [Buy JBL LSR 4328P Studio Monitor Pair online at Musician's Friend] |
| 07:34.27 | levi | I obviously don't get a lot of opportunities to really exercise those. |
| 07:34.38 | sontek | rsimpkins: it all sounded good until php =) I know php but its not a language I enjoy living in, will they hire specifically for hacking in c/c++? |
| 07:34.41 | rsimpkins | levi: What do you think of these stats? http://plug.org/memberstats |
| 07:34.53 | rsimpkins | sontek: Yes they will, if they have a need. |
| 07:35.13 | sontek | we need to get the site more active =p |
| 07:35.38 | rsimpkins | sontek: We do? |
| 07:35.44 | rsimpkins | I mean, Yes! |
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| 07:36.12 | levi | I say there are way too many vim fans in PLUG. :P |
| 07:36.42 | rsimpkins | levi: nano is second. :) |
| 07:36.47 | Machete | ~entertain levi |
| 07:36.47 | ibot | ACTION shows levi a 2 dimentional hippo collection while tap dancing in 3d |
| 07:37.15 | Machete | ~entertain rsimpkins |
| 07:37.16 | ibot | ACTION shows rsimpkins a real live ant collection while break diving |
| 07:37.19 | rsimpkins | I'm surprised that Gentoo is a popular server OS. maybe I just have different day to day goals. |
| 07:37.26 | levi | Hmm. Thumbs down to that entertainment. |
| 07:37.38 | Machete | Awwww... |
| 07:38.05 | levi | rsimpkins: The people who use Gentoo as a server are (hopefully) using it as a home server, which is quite a different thing than what you deal with at work. :) |
| 07:38.23 | levi | But yeah, Gentoo, ick. |
| 07:38.40 | rsimpkins | levi: Someone came to the meeting saying they had 40 in production gentoo boxen. |
| 07:38.57 | rsimpkins | levi: I didn't want to say anything out loud. Seems to work for them - some how. |
| 07:39.01 | levi | That someone was clearly insane. |
| 07:39.13 | sontek | we have 10 gentoo boxes in production at work |
| 07:39.17 | sontek | the rest are centos 5 |
| 07:39.26 | rsimpkins | sontek: how many cent boxen? |
| 07:39.59 | sontek | rsimpkins: I think we just added the 30th box this week |
| 07:40.02 | sontek | rsimpkins: we are huge =) |
| 07:40.26 | rsimpkins | sontek: 30 isn't small. IMHO anything over 10 and you have to start chaning the way you do things. |
| 07:40.47 | rsimpkins | Hit a few hundred - and you'll learn a lot about entperprise managment. |
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| 07:41.29 | rsimpkins | Even microsoft has a few thousand linux servers. :) |
| 07:41.49 | sontek | rsimpkins: yeah, we just did a full revamp of how we do things, we switched to using Linux Virtual Server for doing load balancing/heartbeat |
| 07:42.12 | rsimpkins | sontek: That sounds really cool. Did you put that together? |
| 07:42.38 | sontek | rsimpkins: I put together the first few systems and got it all working, and then Mark took over from there |
| 07:42.45 | rsimpkins | Mark? |
| 07:42.55 | sontek | rsimpkins: mark is our little gopher guy |
| 07:43.04 | rsimpkins | Ah, the "junior" ? |
| 07:43.27 | sontek | rsimpkins: I like gopher guy, but junior is a good title too ;p |
| 07:43.43 | sontek | rsimpkins: hes even bad for a junior, which is why I make fun of him |
| 07:43.51 | rsimpkins | lol |
| 07:44.16 | rsimpkins | "No, the floppy does NOT go in the CD-ROM drive" bad? |
| 07:44.39 | sontek | haha, more along the lines of 'yes, business hours are 9-5, showing up whenever isn't acceptable' |
| 07:45.24 | sontek | hes 25 and still lives with his parents, so he hasn't learned any responsibility |
| 07:45.59 | sontek | so he shows up late, reads slashdot all day, and then acts like he couldn't figure something out |
| 07:46.18 | rsimpkins | I knew a guy who's mother made him breakfast (even cut his waffles), made his bed, cleaned his room, and did everything for him well in to his 20s. |
| 07:46.22 | levi | He reads slashdot? Geez. |
| 07:46.28 | rsimpkins | He knew he had a good thing and wasn't going to give it up. :) |
| 07:47.02 | sontek | I wish I still lived with my parents, I bet mark is loaded right now, he checks stay in his account :P |
| 07:47.11 | sontek | s/he/his/ |
| 07:47.36 | levi | I'd either be loaded or have a lot more toys. ;P |
| 07:47.47 | sontek | haha, either way it'd be nice! |
| 07:47.49 | levi | Now I must sleep. |
| 07:48.00 | rsimpkins | sontek: Sounds like his problem is one of desire. |
| 07:48.07 | rsimpkins | sontek: He doesn't LOVE what he does. |
| 07:50.58 | sontek | yeah, I just don't see how he can't, he was doing call center work at tierfour before us |
| 07:51.11 | sontek | now he gets to work on real stuff and he just reads news instead |
| 07:51.33 | sontek | but all his brothers are network guys or programmers, so I think he just feels its what he should do |
| 07:51.36 | sontek | rather than wanting to do it |
| 07:54.18 | rsimpkins | Yeah, IT is HARD. You have to want to do it. |
| 07:55.18 | sontek | yeah, most of us just understand him because even after we leave work we just shell back in and keep going :p |
| 07:55.24 | sontek | don't understand* |
| 07:55.51 | sontek | we've got lucky with the team we've built, with the 1 exception |
| 07:57.03 | rsimpkins | k, bed for me. |
| 07:57.05 | rsimpkins | night. |
| 07:57.35 | sontek | gnight! |
| 07:57.40 | sontek | can't wait for the 14th! |
| 08:00.11 | Supaplex | ~wake sontek |
| 08:00.11 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on sontek and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 08:00.13 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 08:00.19 | sontek | sontek doesn't sleep! |
| 08:00.35 | Supaplex | not with ibot on patrol :-d |
| 08:01.14 | sontek | ~sleep ibot |
| 08:01.15 | ibot | ACTION sends ibot to bed without supper |
| 08:01.24 | sontek | now what ya got?! |
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| 10:08.45 | SKIppER_off | hmm |
| 10:09.01 | utah | ллёво |
| 10:09.04 | Sargun | ? |
| 10:09.05 | Sargun | whoa |
| 10:09.07 | Sargun | neato. |
| 10:09.11 | utah | блин |
| 10:09.12 | Sargun | cyrillic |
| 10:09.14 | Sargun | ahh! |
| 10:09.25 | SKIppER_off | unicode |
| 10:09.30 | Sargun | its attack of the (insert place here) |
| 10:09.43 | utah | иносранцы? |
| 10:09.49 | SKIppER_off | hm |
| 10:10.04 | utah | да че нет... |
| 10:10.05 | Sargun | SKIppER_off, who are you? |
| 10:10.12 | Sargun | utah, and you? |
| 10:10.17 | SKIppER_off | a man |
| 10:10.31 | Sargun | from? |
| 10:10.41 | SKIppER_off | Russian friends |
| 10:10.51 | utah | we are from Russia |
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| 10:12.25 | SKIppER_off | utah: chudik came |
| 10:12.32 | patap | хайя |
| 10:12.43 | SKIppER_off | patap: english |
| 10:12.48 | utah | yes |
| 10:13.07 | patap | ok |
| 10:13.07 | patap | hey |
| 10:13.18 | SKIppER_off | what |
| 10:13.22 | SKIppER_off | hi& |
| 10:13.26 | SKIppER_off | // |
| 10:13.36 | Sargun | How do you know of #utah? |
| 10:13.36 | utah | oh |
| 10:14.01 | utah | its my nick |
| 10:14.07 | SKIppER_off | utah: it is your channel? |
| 10:14.36 | utah | and we decided to go there |
| 10:14.47 | SKIppER_off | *i decided |
| 10:14.48 | utah | ! |
| 10:15.01 | SKIppER_off | !help |
| 10:15.02 | UtahBot | SKIppER_off: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 10:15.04 | utah | he decided |
| 10:15.54 | patap | ы |
| 10:16.08 | SKIppER_off | ы? |
| 10:16.19 | Sargun | Why are you taking over utah? |
| 10:17.06 | SKIppER_off | Sargun: about what do you talk there? |
| 10:17.24 | Sargun | FLOSS |
| 10:17.36 | Sargun | : Off Topic and Beyond |
| 10:17.44 | patap | бб |
| 10:17.50 | *** part/#utah patap (n=chudik@217.118.81.44) |
| 10:17.56 | Sargun | sometimes about how californians suck |
| 10:17.57 | utah | we not understand |
| 10:18.14 | utah | ? |
| 10:18.16 | SKIppER_off | floss это шелк-сырец)) |
| 10:18.28 | utah | cool |
| 10:19.12 | SKIppER_off | floss translate as a silk? |
| 10:19.18 | SKIppER_off | *s |
| 10:19.29 | Sargun | FLOSS = free liberia open source software |
| 10:19.34 | Sargun | amongst things |
| 10:19.39 | Sargun | so, why utah?> |
| 10:20.02 | utah | dont know |
| 10:20.22 | utah | its only nice |
| 10:20.28 | utah | ... |
| 10:20.37 | Sargun | have you been to utah? |
| 10:21.01 | utah | whats this? |
| 10:21.04 | utah | ? |
| 10:21.19 | SKIppER_off | Sargun: do you know mm-202 ? |
| 10:21.48 | Sargun | no |
| 10:21.52 | Sargun | utah is a state |
| 10:21.54 | Sargun | in America |
| 10:22.05 | Sargun | It has SLC |
| 10:22.11 | Sargun | The olympics have been there |
| 10:22.13 | utah | realy? |
| 10:22.17 | Sargun | it also has BYU, UoU |
| 10:24.36 | utah | its interesting |
| 10:26.19 | SKIppER_off | why are you not talking? |
| 10:27.28 | Sargun | uhh |
| 10:27.35 | Sargun | because its nearly 3 AM here |
| 10:27.41 | Sargun | Do you run linux |
| 10:28.06 | SKIppER_off | 13:27 here |
| 10:28.14 | utah | 8,2Sargun, what time is it where are you living |
| 10:29.14 | utah | all are sleeping? |
| 10:30.24 | utah | 8,2SKIppER_off, ты прикинь у них 3 утра |
| 10:30.52 | SKIppER_off | utah: I UNDERSTAND |
| 10:30.57 | utah | некуя себе |
| 10:31.11 | SKIppER_off | 3 AM here |
| 10:31.21 | SKIppER_off | hi wrote |
| 10:31.26 | SKIppER_off | *he |
| 10:31.33 | utah | чё |
| 10:31.42 | utah | по рус |
| 10:31.49 | utah | скаж |
| 10:31.58 | utah | быро |
| 10:32.11 | utah | *STOP* |
| 10:33.01 | SKIppER_off | он написал епт |
| 10:33.12 | utah | 8,2SKIppER_off, э ёпанный |
| 10:33.30 | SKIppER_off | utah: пщ |
| 10:33.33 | utah | нихеееера |
| 10:34.57 | utah | 8,2SKIppER_off, может зайдём на #skipper |
| 10:35.07 | utah | a? |
| 10:35.28 | SKIppER_off | да |
| 10:38.03 | SKIppER_off | bye |
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| 10:39.16 | utah | hm |
| 10:40.07 | utah | scilens |
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| 11:36.42 | utah | oh |
| 11:39.46 | utah | do anybody know about Opera Mini 4.0 |
| 11:39.56 | utah | ? |
| 11:41.08 | utah | all sleeping :-( |
| 11:41.14 | utah | ... |
| 11:42.12 | utah | i'm alone 8-) |
| 11:42.25 | utah | :-( |
| 11:43.25 | utah | hey!!!! |
| 11:43.53 | utah | oooh...... |
| 11:44.56 | utah | fиck! |
| 11:48.33 | utah | 4 a.m. |
| 11:49.33 | utah | 3 hours left |
| 11:49.47 | utah | to 7 |
| 11:51.03 | utah | and maybe someo ne'll wake up........:-) |
| 11:51.41 | utah | or no?!? |
| 11:52.20 | utah | ? |
| 11:53.42 | utah | utah: Off Topic and Beyond |
| 11:55.45 | utah | :-$ |
| 12:05.05 | utah | 4,0FИCK!!! |
| 12:05.14 | utah | oh |
| 12:29.26 | utah | is it anybody from Russia? |
| 12:29.31 | utah | ? |
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| 13:06.55 | atoponce | utah: enjoying yourself? |
| 13:08.09 | utah | no i'm also on another russian |
| 13:08.58 | atoponce | uhh... neat |
| 13:09.56 | utah | yeah |
| 13:13.11 | utah | 8,2atoponce, where are you from? |
| 13:13.49 | atoponce | utah |
| 13:15.34 | utah | cool and i'm from krasnodar(russia)8-) |
| 13:18.31 | utah | what time is it? |
| 13:19.31 | utah | at utah? |
| 13:38.00 | Tene | huh |
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| 13:44.57 | atoponce | gone for good, hopefully, although i doubt it |
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| 13:55.34 | brac | I wonder how good a long straw |
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| 14:10.20 | brac | is there a way to clunky |
| 14:24.42 | Tene | brac: yes |
| 14:25.04 | Sargun | utah has left the building. |
| 14:25.14 | Sargun | Anybody else think that's odd? |
| 14:25.34 | Sargun | I think goozbach is attracting the russian mafia to #utah |
| 14:25.43 | Sargun | We should throw goozbach out. |
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| 14:45.35 | utah | Hi |
| 14:45.39 | utah | ! |
| 14:50.07 | Tene | Hi! |
| 14:50.35 | utah | hi! |
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| 14:51.16 | utah | hi |
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| 14:52.32 | utah | why are you not talkIng? |
| 14:53.14 | utah | ? |
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| 15:10.01 | Tene | Because I'm giving a test, of course. |
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| 15:13.32 | moriancu1er | Where on the Novell campus is the Multi-Distro install fest tomorrow? I want to invite my students. |
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| 15:28.52 | sontek | moriancumer: building a |
| 15:28.59 | sontek | moriancumer: the open source technology center |
| 15:29.26 | goozbach | stupid colds |
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| 15:42.53 | jsmith | goozbach: Go back to bed! Take the day off. Relax... |
| 15:43.04 | jsmith | goozbach: Stressing about it will only make it worse |
| 15:45.57 | goozbach | going back home |
| 15:45.59 | goozbach | sounds good |
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| 15:46.31 | brac | hrmmm... what to do network calls? HTTP? |
| 15:50.12 | jsmith | brac: Use Asterisk to make network calls ;-) |
| 15:50.27 | jsmith | -chat about the elg |
| 15:50.28 | brac | the elg fan Group. |
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| 15:50.44 | jsmith | -chat about hunting |
| 15:50.44 | brac | hunting went |
| 15:50.47 | jsmith | -chat about hunting for |
| 15:50.47 | brac | hunting for food, I'm using this information? |
| 15:56.55 | moriancumer | sontek: tnx |
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| 16:12.02 | findlay | ~emcnabb |
| 16:12.03 | ibot | rumour has it, emcnabb is a 14|\/|3|2, or a closet windows user |
| 16:13.05 | Tene | ~solder elg |
| 16:13.41 | Tene | ibot: solder $whoever is <action> solders elg's jump drive to $whoever's forehead. |
| 16:13.41 | ibot | Tene: okay |
| 16:18.09 | findlay | accrlelerations cause space warps |
| 16:18.22 | findlay | s/r/e/ |
| 16:18.33 | findlay | just so you know |
| 16:19.27 | findlay | every time you speed up and slow down you're stretching the very fabric of space and time |
| 16:19.52 | findlay | which is made out of a rough flax like material from what I can tell |
| 16:21.49 | levi | Oh no, you've made a run in the space-time continuum! |
| 16:22.02 | findlay | heh |
| 16:25.22 | elg | ~duct tape $tene is <action>secures the soldered jump drive on $tene's forehead with duct tape. |
| 16:25.57 | ibot | okay, elg |
| 16:25.58 | elg | ~duct tape tene |
| 16:26.11 | ibot | ACTION secures the soldered jump drive on tene's forehead with duct tape. |
| 16:26.34 | Tene | This week I stayed in No Content. |
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| 16:29.04 | findlay | ooooom! |
| 16:32.40 | elg | no, you got it all wrong |
| 16:32.54 | elg | ¡OOOOOW |
| 16:33.52 | findlay | -chat about mooooo |
| 16:33.53 | brac | mooooo had |
| 16:34.08 | findlay | ~piglatin mooooo |
| 16:37.35 | findlay | ~piglatin Corpus omne perseverare in statu suo quiescendi vel movendi uniformiter in directum, nisi quatenus a viribus impressis cogitur statum illum mutare. |
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| 16:43.57 | fozzmoo | elg: hee |
| 16:50.29 | Kemotaha | hey, quick question |
| 16:50.39 | Kemotaha | How do I have multiple private keys for ssh? |
| 16:50.52 | rsimpkins | woot. go PLUG. |
| 16:51.35 | rsimpkins | Everyone come. Mmmkay? |
| 16:51.35 | Tene | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=287 |
| 16:52.16 | Tene | Kemotaha: just ssh-keygen like normal |
| 16:52.30 | Kemotaha | I thought that overwrote id_rsa |
| 16:52.45 | Tene | Kemotaha: the first question it asks is for the filename to use... |
| 16:53.09 | fozzmoo | Then, when you connect you can use the -i option to specify the individual key you want to use for the connection. |
| 16:53.49 | Kemotaha | ok. I will try it |
| 16:54.48 | fozzmoo | Tene: That phone is just... bizarre. |
| 16:54.58 | Tene | and yet, awesome? |
| 16:55.20 | fozzmoo | indeed. |
| 16:57.50 | Jayce^ | wonder if fozzmoo will actually come to a PLUG meeting now.. |
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| 16:57.50 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: Was planning on hoping to. :) |
| 16:57.50 | Keighvin | fozzmoo: Don't do it. It's a conspiracy. |
| 16:58.29 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: Are you coming next week? |
| 16:59.20 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: Was planning on hoping to. |
| 16:59.20 | fozzmoo | I may have to drop one PLUG/UTOS activity this next couple of weeks... |
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| 16:59.20 | rsimpkins | planning on hoping? :) |
| 16:59.24 | fozzmoo | Right now I think it might be the MDRP. |
| 17:00.00 | fozzmoo | Cuz I haven't been bruised and covered with Jayce^'s paintball splatter in a long time. |
| 17:00.45 | Jayce^ | hey, you were on my team last time :) |
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| 17:01.14 | sontek | I would come own you both if I wasn't heading to Michigan that day! |
| 17:06.47 | Tene | http://www.thinkgos.com/ -- pretty cool. ubuntu+e17 box available at WalMart |
| 17:06.47 | brac | [gOS] |
| 17:06.47 | findlay | Tene: old news |
| 17:06.55 | findlay | old news for feed crazy people like me |
| 17:07.41 | Tene | I heard about it a while back, just saw it mentioned again in an email from raster. |
| 17:07.41 | jsmith | Tene: Is raster still working on E? |
| 17:07.49 | Tene | jsmith: yeah |
| 17:08.15 | Tene | jsmith: you see his "big announcement" email recently? |
| 17:08.25 | Tene | He's working for OpenMoko now. |
| 17:08.39 | Tene | So has much more time for e devel |
| 17:08.53 | fozzmoo | So... what is OpenMoko? |
| 17:09.01 | fozzmoo | I mean, I know I can read the website... |
| 17:09.05 | fozzmoo | but give me a quick summary |
| 17:09.06 | Tene | open-source open-hardware cellphone. |
| 17:09.12 | rsimpkins | How many people registered/came to UTOSC? |
| 17:09.26 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: You didn't. |
| 17:09.41 | Tene | jsmith: he uploaded the WIP of his new theme to his website this morning, but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. |
| 17:09.42 | fozzmoo | Tene didn't. Twerp |
| 17:09.59 | rsimpkins | herlo: How many ppl came to UTOSC? |
| 17:10.07 | findlay | fozzmoo: the same company that spun off openmoko also created gos |
| 17:10.10 | herlo | rsimpkins: 201 |
| 17:10.12 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: It was about 220 |
| 17:10.20 | fozzmoo | Oh . Yeah.I remembered it was more than 200 |
| 17:10.25 | rsimpkins | Cool. |
| 17:10.41 | Tene | jsmith: the first two files on http://rasterman.com/files/?M=D |
| 17:10.48 | herlo | rsimpkins: I'm curious if you'd like numbers and maybe some statistics? |
| 17:11.04 | findlay | Tene: I've got a question for yo |
| 17:11.05 | findlay | u |
| 17:11.09 | rsimpkins | herlo: Put it in the presentation. |
| 17:11.20 | rsimpkins | herlo: One thing I've learned is that people love impressive numbers. :) |
| 17:11.24 | Tene | findlay: I have an unopened can of mountain dew |
| 17:11.24 | findlay | 201.14159 ppl |
| 17:11.29 | findlay | Tene: nice |
| 17:11.32 | rsimpkins | Like: 387,239,2343! |
| 17:11.35 | Tene | findlay: ask your question. |
| 17:11.39 | rsimpkins | oops, forgot a '.' |
| 17:11.47 | herlo | rsimpkins: we'll do it |
| 17:12.02 | herlo | rsimpkins: I'm working on the presentation in my head right now. I'll have something solid by Monday... |
| 17:12.16 | levi | Any http gurus here? |
| 17:12.35 | Tene | levi: I frequently use http and my job title is 'guru', do I count? |
| 17:12.50 | elg | i know a few http return codes by heart |
| 17:12.54 | elg | does that make me a guru? |
| 17:12.55 | levi | Tene: If you know the answer to my question, perhaps. |
| 17:13.08 | findlay | Tene: so I'm running E17 and I downloaded some custom themes and put them in ~/.e/e/themes but when I tried to change to one of them it wouldn't work and I'd be stuck with the default. Then I switched to "Simply White" and now I can't change the theme at all, even back to the default |
| 17:13.13 | levi | OK, so I'm writing a very simple web server as a gui for this device for a demo. |
| 17:13.30 | Tene | findlay: are you up-to-date and are the themes up-to-date? |
| 17:15.07 | elg | suuure. i bet you're trying to get us to do your homework |
| 17:15.07 | findlay | Tene: not quite |
| 17:15.07 | findlay | :) |
| 17:15.07 | findlay | but running a CVS snapshot, obviously |
| 17:15.07 | levi | Everything works fine with Firefox, but when I do a form POST in IE, I get the 'IE cannot display the webpage' page. |
| 17:15.08 | elg | curl -I is nice for inspecting headers |
| 17:15.08 | findlay | levi: more proof that IE is garbage |
| 17:15.08 | levi | findlay: Well, it's quite possible I'm doing something wrong. |
| 17:15.08 | findlay | levi: or the livehttpheaders FF extension |
| 17:15.08 | elg | does it say why it can't? most likely reason is mime-type |
| 17:15.08 | findlay | very nice |
| 17:15.10 | Tene | levi: the best solution is to just get a dump of the headers sent and returned on a successful form post. |
| 17:15.39 | Tene | findlay: update e, get updated themes, try again, unless you have a more-specific question or want to give me more details. |
| 17:16.03 | Tene | findlay: because, y'know, you didn't actually ask a question. |
| 17:16.07 | Tene | SO IM STILL WAITING |
| 17:16.08 | Tene | jerk. |
| 17:16.18 | findlay | oh, right, the Question |
| 17:16.27 | findlay | Tene: so, why? |
| 17:16.30 | findlay | ~jerk |
| 17:17.13 | ibot | somebody said jerk was the derivative of acceleration with respect to time |
| 17:17.14 | Tene | findlay: what happens when you try to change themes? |
| 17:17.14 | elg | the time-space continuum gets a run |
| 17:17.14 | findlay | Tene: e gets flustered like it has to go and do something and then nothing happens |
| 17:17.36 | Tene | findlay: I'd guess that your themes and e are not the same version. |
| 17:17.42 | findlay | hm |
| 17:17.46 | Tene | either newer themes and old e or old themes and new e |
| 17:17.53 | Tene | the theme format changes sometimes. |
| 17:19.30 | findlay | Tene: my other question is there are configuration things I want to change, but e stores its confs in some database format and the GUI conf thing doesn't have an option for what I want, specifically I want to change the desktop path to my home folder /home/jdog, not /home/jdog/Desktop |
| 17:19.35 | fozzmoo | Okay, it's my turn to ask stupid questions.... |
| 17:19.53 | Jayce^ | ~stupid fozzmoo |
| 17:20.39 | fozzmoo | So, I've got this Java guy here who needs to post some XML to a test stub. |
| 17:20.40 | fozzmoo | I wrote the test stub in Perl. |
| 17:20.40 | Tene | What I'd do there is just ln -s . Desktop |
| 17:20.40 | Tene | but |
| 17:20.40 | Tene | there's a script raster wrote to dump the entire config db and load from a dump |
| 17:20.40 | findlay | to some people seeing a directory named Desktop in their home folder is subtly and psycologically alarming |
| 17:20.40 | ^Migs^ | nice stuff: http://www.blackfriday.info/ads/circuitcity-black-friday-ad.html |
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| 17:20.40 | Tene | findlay: howso? I'm curious. |
| 17:20.41 | fozzmoo | Now, I don't know how people usually post XML... |
| 17:20.47 | ^Migs^ | Toshiba Satelillite Laptop with AMD Athlon 64 X2 Duel Core - $399.99 |
| 17:20.51 | ^Migs^ | Kingston 1GB Notebook DDR2 Memory - $14.99 |
| 17:20.58 | fozzmoo | But I figured it would just be a POST with the XML as the value in a single name-value pair. |
| 17:21.02 | Jayce^ | really? Duelling cores? Does only one wind up the winner? |
| 17:21.05 | Tene | migs: Duel Core? Do they fight? |
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| 17:21.16 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 17:21.37 | fozzmoo | Or is there some other way that people post XML to servers via HTTP? |
| 17:21.37 | findlay | Tene: because I though that my home directory was my area and when some program thinks it needs something in there that I don't want, I get annoyed |
| 17:21.44 | elg | core wars |
| 17:22.10 | levi | fozzmoo: When you POST, you can say how your POST is encoded. |
| 17:23.05 | findlay | Tene: I guess I'll look into hacking the db |
| 17:23.19 | Tene | findlay: there's a tool to dump the entire config, but right now ~/Desktop might be hardcoded. |
| 17:23.25 | fozzmoo | Okay. Yeah. application/x-www-form-urlencoded |
| 17:23.28 | findlay | heh, figures |
| 17:23.31 | fozzmoo | Do I have another option? |
| 17:23.31 | Tene | Although |
| 17:23.45 | Tene | it might just look at the Desktop.desktop file |
| 17:23.50 | Tene | unsure, I'd have to check. |
| 17:24.11 | findlay | if it's hard coded I can always patch the ebuild |
| 17:24.15 | findlay | :) |
| 17:27.41 | rsimpkins | people. after trying to log in SIX TIMES maybe you should realize you don't have an account, and should sign up! |
| 17:28.06 | rsimpkins | :) |
| 17:28.59 | findlay | been deleting accounts rsimpkins? :) |
| 17:29.05 | sontek | I had to try 4 times before I got my password right |
| 17:29.29 | rsimpkins | hehe |
| 17:29.48 | levi | fozzmoo: If your server supports another option |
| 17:30.44 | findlay | I choose my passwords as phrases from sonnets of Keats translated into Klingon and then operated on by 3 Hilbert transforms which are then mapped into unicode |
| 17:30.59 | findlay | that makes them easy to remember |
| 17:31.04 | sontek | fozzmoo: are you trying to do something like xml rpc? |
| 17:32.15 | fozzmoo | I dunno. probably. |
| 17:32.48 | fozzmoo | I just need to develop a mod_perl handler that processes XML POST'd to it. |
| 17:33.35 | sontek | in C# I just do ContentType = "text/xml" and then post it |
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| 17:34.49 | fozzmoo | Okay. that's looking like what I need to do. |
| 17:35.37 | fozzmoo | I was doing it like a form and telling it formvar=<?xml.... |
| 17:40.48 | ^Migs^ | omg |
| 17:40.51 | ^Migs^ | zoho is pissing me off |
| 17:40.58 | ^Migs^ | someone just deleted everything I wrote |
| 17:41.07 | levi | Hmm, apparently my server never even replies to IE's POSTs. |
| 17:41.29 | fozzmoo | levi: Your server has a bias problem? |
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| 17:49.14 | rsimpkins | Does anyone have the vetor image of the PLUG logo? |
| 17:49.20 | rsimpkins | I really need to get a copy of that thing. |
| 17:59.36 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, thought I gave it to you.. |
| 18:00.51 | Jayce^ | hope I still have it on an old box |
| 18:01.50 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: No. I'd really appreciate a copy. |
| 18:02.11 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: We'll stick in on the plug server - which I back up (my part any way) nightly. |
| 18:03.17 | rsimpkins | pjw++ |
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| 18:03.53 | Jayce^ | pjw_, hope to see you there |
| 18:04.13 | rsimpkins | Does anyone know Matt Cameron - he signed up for the linked in PLUG group, but he lives in Alabama. |
| 18:04.19 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, I know I still had a copy at home |
| 18:04.54 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: It would be wonderful if you could send it along tonight. |
| 18:06.03 | findlay-w | and I want a copy, in silly putty |
| 18:06.40 | mrpull | rsimpkins: that name sounds familiar.... from 7-8 years ago |
| 18:06.53 | mrpull | rsimpkins: maybe when I worked for Lineo |
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| 18:12.25 | levi | Aha, I found the problem. |
| 18:13.21 | levi | When IE does a POST, it sets the content length to the amount of stuff in your urlencoded form data, but then it appends a \r\n at the end of it. |
| 18:13.44 | levi | Firefox doesn't append the \r\n, so when you read the number of bytes in content-length, you're all done. |
| 18:15.08 | elg | so it had blocked waiting to read |
| 18:15.12 | elg | for you to read |
| 18:17.11 | levi | No... |
| 18:17.22 | levi | It's a C file buffer issue, I think. |
| 18:17.37 | levi | Because I didn't read all the data waiting for me to read, it wouldn't let me write to it. |
| 18:18.11 | levi | Well, I wrote to it, but it never sent it out to the fd. Got lost in a buffer or something. |
| 18:28.01 | levi | From reading the http spec, IE is simply wrong. |
| 18:28.36 | levi | You're not supposed to add anything after the entity body. |
| 18:28.44 | levi | Stupid, stupid IE. |
| 18:29.02 | findlay-w | levi: did you try IE7? |
| 18:29.10 | levi | That's what I was using. |
| 18:29.13 | findlay-w | heh |
| 18:29.27 | findlay-w | leave it to MS to code up crap |
| 18:29.43 | findlay-w | well, anyone can and does do that I suppose |
| 18:32.31 | dmdavis | what's a good keyserver to set in the gnupg config? |
| 18:33.10 | dmdavis | the one I have in there is no longer responding it seems, which makes browsing signed email annoyingly slow |
| 18:35.52 | levi | Apparently the CERN webserver required the extra CRLF, and IE includes it for backward compatibility. :P |
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| 18:37.44 | levi | IE used to /not/ do that, and apparently people considered it a bug because they wrote code based on browsers instead of specs. :P |
| 18:37.55 | levi | I hate programmers. :P |
| 18:44.24 | findlay-w | you'd think CERN wouldn't be that backward |
| 18:45.55 | dmdavis | does anyone here have a keyserver set in their gpg config? |
| 18:46.18 | findlay-w | dmdavis: google? |
| 18:46.49 | Keighvin | dmdavis: pksd |
| 18:46.56 | Keighvin | ...is what we're using here. |
| 18:47.13 | dmdavis | googling turns up some, but there's a variety. do they all sync up? |
| 18:47.31 | dmdavis | Keighvin: thanks |
| 18:49.41 | levi | Arrrg, I'm not sure what I'm going to do here. |
| 18:51.04 | Tene | levi: I suggest arson. |
| 19:01.14 | levi | It's kind of funny that IE's user agent string starts with Mozilla/4.0 |
| 19:06.33 | levi | I just looked for MSIE in the User-Agent string. It now works with Firefox and IE, and that should be sufficient. |
| 19:07.51 | elg | well, phil sells his plane and yes, I guess I would say "you're committed", and then add under my breath (and crazy) |
| 19:08.28 | levi | elg: What are you referring to? |
| 19:09.05 | elg | blog post |
| 19:09.30 | levi | Sold his plane to fund his startup? |
| 19:09.50 | elg | ya |
| 19:10.23 | elg | 25 skills every man should know: #3 rescue a boater who has capsized. what? how many men are ever in that position? |
| 19:14.56 | levi | But you should know just in case! |
| 19:15.21 | levi | Whoever made the list is probably a boater, and wants to increase his odds of being rescused if he ever capsizes. |
| 19:22.50 | elg | heh |
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| 19:45.20 | elg | why doesn't someone think up a better name for dynamic programming? one with actual meaning |
| 19:46.42 | Tene | squidhands programming |
| 20:00.21 | unum | so in apache I want to do a scriptalias / /cgi-bin/trac.cgi |
| 20:00.23 | unum | but I need it to macth /myproject/ aswell |
| 20:00.48 | Tene | so add two scriptaliases? |
| 20:00.59 | unum | well I have multiple myprojects |
| 20:01.15 | unum | I'm trying to figure out a regex but it doesn't work the way I expect |
| 20:01.16 | Tene | mod_Rewrite? |
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| 20:05.50 | Supaplex | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html#scriptaliasmatch |
| 20:05.52 | brac | [mod_alias - Apache HTTP Server] |
| 20:06.58 | unum | Supaplex: thanks just found it |
| 20:07.49 | unum | though I just realized that introduces a new problem |
| 20:08.04 | Supaplex | the dreictive was from recall :) fajita in #apache ftw. |
| 20:08.18 | Supaplex | s/dreictive/directive/ |
| 20:09.05 | elg | something like linear recursion or dependency flow or somethin |
| 20:09.12 | Supaplex | I doubt you want / as a scriptalias? |
| 20:10.40 | unum | it's for trac |
| 20:10.56 | unum | and scriptaliasmatch allows me to do exactly what I want |
| 20:11.04 | unum | but if you now a better way I'm all ears |
| 20:11.15 | unum | except I have to go talk to the it manager now |
| 20:11.35 | Supaplex | I somewhat understand, but maybe I don't quite get what the new problem is. |
| 20:21.59 | levi | elg: By dynamic programming, you mean the thing you learn in algorithms class? |
| 20:25.46 | elg | right |
| 20:26.01 | elg | the thing that I get to review in lab today |
| 20:26.25 | levi | According to wikipedia, it does mean something, but only to mathematicians. |
| 20:27.55 | elg | well it has a meaning of course |
| 20:28.16 | elg | but its meaning is arcane and misleading. "programming" wasn't a common word then and didn't mean what it means now anyway |
| 20:28.38 | levi | Well, it still does in some contexts. |
| 20:28.50 | levi | I.e. radio programming, tv programming. |
| 20:29.46 | levi | But yeah, 'dynamic programming' is pretty obscure. |
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| 20:32.15 | Supaplex | self modifying code! |
| 20:32.28 | levi | What about self modifying code? |
| 20:32.58 | Supaplex | it's what I think of with dynamic programming |
| 20:33.39 | levi | Then you are thinking of something completely different than what we're talking about. |
| 20:40.10 | Tene | Heh. |
| 20:40.21 | Tene | alias quit='hdparm -Y /dev/hda' |
| 20:40.28 | Tene | s/quit/quiet/ |
| 20:43.09 | levi | Grr, I have a headache. |
| 20:48.02 | Supaplex | ~asprin levi |
| 20:48.03 | ibot | ACTION passes levi a glass of water and two asprin. Take these and call me in the morning. |
| 20:50.17 | jsmith | cd |
| 20:51.08 | rsimpkins | -/bin/bash: cd: /home/jsmith: No such file or directory |
| 20:51.09 | sontek | jsmith@server ~ $ |
| 20:55.46 | jsmith | Thanks guys... next, I'll start doing everything else in here, and you'll do my job ;-) |
| 21:14.22 | redbeard2 | i'd forgotten the sense of humor used in some of the old o'reilly books |
| 21:14.55 | redbeard2 | "Maybe you typed the URL incorrectly, or the server is down, or the person who set it up made a mistake--perhaps because he didn't read this book." |
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| 21:19.59 | maquis | :) |
| 21:20.38 | Supaplex | or maybe your overzealous braindead firewall is broken. |
| 21:37.13 | levi | Sweet, Multics has been open sourced. |
| 21:43.27 | levi | Of course, it's of largely academic interest, since it's written in PL/I |
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| 22:05.40 | Supaplex | heck yeah. 2x Crucial 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model CT25664AA667 $99.98 shipped! no crummy rebates :P |
| 22:09.22 | Jayce^ | two 2gb sticks? |
| 22:09.27 | Supaplex | yes |
| 22:09.45 | Jayce^ | where is this? |
| 22:10.05 | Supaplex | newegg |
| 22:11.29 | elg | not bad |
| 22:12.18 | elg | -metar |
| 22:14.19 | jsmith | Supaplex: Wow... |
| 22:14.33 | elg | -lart Supaplex |
| 22:14.37 | elg | -metar klru |
| 22:14.37 | brac | KLRU 092212Z AUTO 20003KT 10SM CLR 27/M02 A3005 RMK AO2 |
| 22:15.07 | Supaplex | my amd64 box is getting an upgrade. :) hellooooo xen |
| 22:19.41 | sontek | ~flog xen |
| 22:19.41 | ibot | ACTION whips xen with a cat-5 o' nine tails |
| 22:27.12 | redbeard2 | can anyone recommend a good book on apache 2.2? the latest edition of the o'reilly book is horribly out of date |
| 22:28.19 | maquis | -chat |
| 22:28.20 | brac | Camera is great; we're using nios2 softcores on a $5000 flat fee would be in order to work? |
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| 22:31.54 | brac | exten => 600,1,Answer() |
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| 22:33.33 | Supaplex | heh |
| 22:33.36 | jsmith | Good one brac... keep teaching people about Asterisk |
| 22:33.47 | nick125 | hahaha |
| 22:34.20 | Kemotaha | -chat |
| 22:34.21 | brac | The channel |
| 22:34.30 | Supaplex | -chat exten |
| 22:34.31 | brac | exten did |
| 22:35.52 | utah | hi |
| 22:35.52 | utah | ! |
| 22:38.45 | maquis | -chat |
| 22:38.46 | brac | you guys know of laws that has been said that goozbach buried him in here. |
| 22:39.03 | maquis | there's a law that says that? |
| 22:39.03 | maquis | wow |
| 22:39.11 | maquis | goozbach: who does the law say your buried in here? |
| 22:39.22 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 22:39.25 | Kemotaha | that's impressive buried in an irc channel |
| 22:39.40 | jsmith | goozbach: Did you really bury that mafia guy in IRC? |
| 22:39.46 | utah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.05 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:48.28 | tristanbob | any ideas what to do if I can't get terminal to open? |
| 22:48.46 | tristanbob | it opens a window on the bottom, but then closes itself |
| 22:50.44 | Keighvin | What is supposed to be opening in the terminal? |
| 22:50.58 | rsimpkins | |
| 22:51.58 | rsimpkins | ' |
| 22:52.07 | rsimpkins | My system is all jacked. :) |
| 22:52.15 | rsimpkins | there we go. strange. |
| 22:53.00 | tristanbob | yes mine is all jacked too |
| 22:53.13 | tristanbob | time to reinstall Ubuntu 7.10 :( |
| 22:53.25 | Kemotaha | cntl-alt-f2 |
| 22:53.45 | nick125 | Anyone here use pulseaudio? |
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| 22:54.23 | Kemotaha | way to go ibot. You broke brac |
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| 22:59.12 | tristanbob | Kemotaha: yes, I am using that terminal for now (ctl-alt-f2) |
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| 23:56.53 | findlay | stupid Californians |
| 23:57.06 | findlay | they had to go and burn their houses down and stink up our air |
| 23:58.00 | dmdavis | <stupid question>Has the effect of it really reached this far?</stupid question> |
| 23:58.18 | levi | Yes. |
| 23:58.28 | dmdavis | wow |
| 23:58.35 | levi | California isn't that far away. |
| 23:59.16 | findlay | dmdavis: smelled it all the way home from school today |
| 23:59.25 | findlay | it's come in hard |