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| 01:40.40 | brac | I figured, but gmail isn't reloading now |
| 01:55.06 | elg | i'm glad you figured |
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| 02:33.26 | elg | anyone recommend an exif editor? I want to nondestructively add to the ImageDescription or UserComment fields, and fix Orientation (my camera doesn't have an orientation sensor) |
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| 02:46.42 | levi | I have an air compressor now. |
| 02:49.16 | bucky | how big? |
| 02:49.50 | elg | i have an air compressor. I can compress about 3 liters of air |
| 02:49.54 | elg | maybe 4 |
| 02:50.07 | elg | enough pressure to inflate a rubber capsule |
| 02:50.26 | bucky | big enough to blow surface mount components off a circuit board? |
| 02:50.43 | elg | well, with a bit of saliva maybe |
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| 02:58.54 | levi | It's a 2hp 33 gallon compressor. |
| 03:03.38 | bucky | what are you going to do with that? become a framing contractor? |
| 03:03.46 | *** part/#utah linuxalien (i=nobody@oalug/member/linuxalien) |
| 03:05.04 | levi | Uh, no. I'm going to use it to work on my car. |
| 03:05.22 | levi | And also to run nail guns, and paint sprayers, etc. |
| 03:05.27 | bucky | thought you might shoot nails with it |
| 03:07.31 | levi | Cool, Harbor Freight has infrared thermometers for $39.99 |
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| 03:07.40 | brac | Or does everyone hate php |
| 03:25.43 | bucky | brac, i love ruby |
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| 04:10.44 | findlay | -chat ruby |
| 04:10.44 | brac | ruby had a good drummer, though. |
| 04:11.33 | findlay | -chat stuff |
| 04:11.34 | brac | stuff is IO bound these days runs into a lot |
| 04:11.37 | findlay | -chat |
| 04:11.38 | brac | Of course |
| 04:11.54 | findlay | -chat second rotation product |
| 04:11.54 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
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| 04:30.54 | brac | have you tried to get it now |
| 04:30.57 | Supaplex | -chat rumors |
| 04:30.57 | brac | rumors had |
| 04:31.30 | Supaplex | ~lart brac's -chat |
| 04:31.30 | ibot | stuffs brac's -chat into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 04:38.24 | tensai | elg: jhead is quite useful for exif |
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| 04:39.28 | Lakshmi | hey |
| 04:39.54 | Supaplex | oh yeh? |
| 04:40.06 | Tene | ~onjoin lakshmi SQUIDHANDS |
| 04:40.07 | ibot | Tene: ok |
| 04:40.12 | Lakshmi | hehe |
| 04:40.24 | Lakshmi | ~onjoin lakshmi hey!!! |
| 04:40.25 | ibot | Lakshmi: ok |
| 04:40.29 | Lakshmi | there we go |
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| 04:49.39 | tensai | elg: awake? |
| 04:50.40 | elg | on my way out |
| 04:50.54 | tensai | good. fix my flightgear real quick |
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| 04:51.06 | elg | jhead is nifty, but it doesn't seem to do exif usercomment or imagedescription fields |
| 04:51.07 | Lakshmi | hey |
| 04:51.13 | elg | what's wrong with it? |
| 04:51.14 | Sargun | hi |
| 04:51.18 | Lakshmi | sup?; |
| 04:51.24 | Lakshmi | can we aim please? |
| 04:51.26 | tensai | I downloaded the scenery file but the idaho falls airport isn't showing up |
| 04:51.31 | elg | ~shoot Lakshmi |
| 04:51.32 | ibot | ACTION shoots Lakshmi in the ear with a phase pistol! |
| 04:51.43 | Supaplex | nice aim ibot |
| 04:51.45 | elg | tensai: just water? |
| 04:51.48 | tensai | "Failed to find runway 28R at airport KIDA" |
| 04:51.51 | tensai | yeah |
| 04:51.56 | elg | that message is ok |
| 04:52.06 | elg | unless it really does have a runway 28R |
| 04:52.22 | tensai | no, it doesn't. it's 20R, so yeah that's fine |
| 04:52.24 | elg | where did you put the scenery? |
| 04:52.50 | tensai | where all the other scenery is |
| 04:52.57 | Lakshmi | thats mean |
| 04:53.15 | tensai | /usr/share/games/FlightGear |
| 04:53.46 | elg | you downloaded the whole tile? |
| 04:53.50 | Supaplex | UtahBot: say what? |
| 04:53.55 | klys_ | you've got mail |
| 04:53.57 | Supaplex | oh nm |
| 04:54.02 | tensai | elg: yeah |
| 04:54.10 | elg | does the tarball have two top-level directories? Objects and Terrain |
| 04:54.14 | tensai | I see a KIDA.btg.gz file |
| 04:54.17 | tensai | yeah |
| 04:54.22 | Tene | ~onjoin Sargun SQUIDHANDS |
| 04:54.22 | ibot | ok, Tene |
| 04:54.32 | elg | hmm |
| 04:54.47 | elg | well, try extracting it somewhere, like ~/.fgfs/Scenery |
| 04:54.48 | Supaplex | all squidhands on deck |
| 04:54.55 | tensai | I checked permissions and that looks fine |
| 04:55.00 | elg | then, |
| 04:55.02 | tensai | .fgfs, hmm.. |
| 04:55.15 | elg | export FG_SCENERY=$HOME/Scenery |
| 04:55.21 | elg | and try again |
| 04:55.34 | elg | actually you'd do |
| 04:56.04 | elg | export FG_SCENERY=$HOME/.fgfs/Scenery:/usr/share/FlightGear/Scenery |
| 04:56.10 | elg | so it can still find the default scenery |
| 04:56.15 | tensai | hey, I got it |
| 04:56.19 | elg | nice |
| 04:56.22 | elg | cheers |
| 04:56.27 | tensai | I set FG_ROOT and FG_SCENERY=/usr/share/games/FlightGear |
| 05:08.18 | Sargun | Recompile? |
| 05:24.20 | Sargun | Oooh. |
| 05:24.25 | Sargun | I just nuked a bee |
| 05:25.58 | Lakshmi | u spent 20 mins chasing a bee? |
| 05:26.03 | Lakshmi | o.0 |
| 05:26.29 | Lakshmi | seriously? |
| 05:26.29 | Sargun | Lakshmi, ... |
| 05:26.29 | Sargun | Let me see you kill a bee |
| 05:26.30 | Sargun | indoors |
| 05:26.37 | Lakshmi | i wouldnt |
| 05:26.50 | Lakshmi | whats a bee then? |
| 05:27.24 | Sargun | Biomechanical Electronic Entity |
| 05:27.30 | Lakshmi | oh |
| 05:27.38 | Sargun | Beast from the Enchanted Earth |
| 05:27.45 | Lakshmi | heh |
| 05:27.50 | findlay | buh |
| 05:27.53 | Lakshmi | and aim |
| 05:27.58 | findlay | ~gentoo Sargun |
| 05:27.58 | ibot | ACTION recompiles Sargun again |
| 05:28.11 | Sargun | ~kill findlay |
| 05:28.12 | ibot | ACTION shoots a excited anti-graviton gun at findlay |
| 05:28.13 | Sargun | ~murder findlay |
| 05:28.14 | ibot | ACTION shoots findlay in his sleep |
| 05:28.15 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 05:28.15 | ibot | takes out a cattle prod and gives findlay a good jolt |
| 05:28.18 | Sargun | ~destroy findlay |
| 05:28.18 | ibot | no |
| 05:28.22 | Sargun | ~nick125 findlay |
| 05:28.22 | ibot | ACTION puts findlay on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes findlay use Gentoo on there. |
| 05:28.23 | findlay | ~shoot Sargun |
| 05:28.24 | ibot | ACTION shoots Sargun in the ear with a quantum singularity weapon! |
| 05:28.28 | Sargun | ~zap findlay |
| 05:28.29 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives findlay a good jolt. |
| 05:28.35 | findlay | ~trogdor Sargun |
| 05:28.36 | ibot | ACTION burninates Sargun |
| 05:28.41 | Lakshmi | ~kill sargun |
| 05:28.41 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-photon gun at sargun |
| 05:30.59 | Sargun | ~mormon findlay |
| 05:31.18 | Sargun | ~preach findlay |
| 05:31.22 | Sargun | ~attack findlay |
| 05:31.23 | ibot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing findlay |
| 05:31.24 | findlay | ~atheist Sargun |
| 05:31.30 | findlay | ~entertain Sargun |
| 05:31.30 | ibot | ACTION shows Sargun a pink elephant while tap dancing |
| 05:33.54 | findlay | ~tetris Sargun |
| 05:47.05 | findlay | Sargun: have a thing against gentoo? :) |
| 05:48.02 | findlay | I thought you knew the truth |
| 05:48.12 | findlay | Gentoo is the One, True Distro |
| 05:50.10 | *** topic/#utah by findlay -> The channel for content free discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC video now available - http://utosf.org |
| 05:50.55 | vontrapp | what would you do for a no latency house-wide music player? |
| 05:51.13 | findlay | loud speakers |
| 05:51.17 | vontrapp | haha |
| 05:51.20 | vontrapp | no |
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| 05:56.11 | findlay | you've never experienced Schumann until you've heard him in his true 1600 W glory |
| 06:03.08 | findlay | ~Supaplex yesterday |
| 06:08.32 | levi | vontrapp: I would use one of the gadgets I'm working on at work, except it's not finished yet. |
| 06:08.48 | Supaplex | more like bed now. |
| 06:09.11 | vontrapp | what kind of device is that? |
| 06:09.17 | vontrapp | how how cost prohibitive is it? |
| 06:10.04 | vontrapp | my dream is some setup that can perhaps even play different "channels" throughout the rooms |
| 06:29.20 | Supaplex | 40TB for $6K. I guess I'll know by next week. :P |
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| 08:48.32 | Lakshmi | it would be odd to have ure left hand on ure right arm |
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| 12:54.33 | brac | ~enquestion harleypig |
| 13:16.16 | Supaplex | good morning :) |
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| 13:47.06 | sargun-palm | ~time |
| 13:47.06 | ibot | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.11.02 13:47:06 GMT) |
| 13:49.15 | sargun-palm | so warm, so pleasant the train's touch is to my hard, cold body. |
| 13:49.31 | sargun-palm | its FREEZING!. |
| 13:49.51 | sargun-palm | the train is WARM |
| 13:51.04 | sargun-palm | good morning |
| 13:51.11 | sargun-palm | is anyone awake? |
| 13:51.13 | Supaplex | m'oin |
| 13:51.24 | sargun-palm | moin moin |
| 13:51.48 | sargun-palm | supaplex: do anything interesting last night? |
| 13:52.08 | Supaplex | yea, but bestbuy has a credit hold on my online order the bank says was already approved |
| 13:52.16 | sargun-palm | I think I know why AMD'S product suck. |
| 13:52.35 | sargun-palm | one of their engineers is gitting infront of me |
| 13:52.53 | sargun-palm | and while watching a really bad tv series |
| 13:52.57 | Supaplex | so i'm on hold with volume unmormalized hold music and announcments (quiet, very loud, quiet, very loud, etc.) |
| 13:53.04 | sargun-palm | he was showing me a list of passwords |
| 13:53.15 | Supaplex | eh? |
| 13:53.22 | sargun-palm | supaplex: dampen it? |
| 13:53.25 | Supaplex | why are they written down? |
| 13:53.57 | sargun-palm | oh, he has a list of network passwords written on the top of his ibm (intel) laptop |
| 13:54.51 | Supaplex | if my call's so important, just answer it already. :P |
| 13:54.57 | sargun-palm | hm.. |
| 13:55.18 | sargun-palm | the microsoft guy is a little more secure |
| 13:55.26 | sargun-palm | he encrypted his hard drive. |
| 13:55.35 | sargun-palm | but he just looks weird. |
| 13:55.41 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 13:55.59 | sargun-palm | like he is severely disturbed by his e-mal |
| 13:56.01 | sargun-palm | mail |
| 13:56.29 | sargun-palm | and when he looks up to think he crosses his eyes. |
| 13:56.37 | sargun-palm | and sucks his lips in |
| 13:56.46 | sargun-palm | o.O what'd I do? |
| 13:57.10 | sargun-palm | since when has sitting next to people been hacking |
| 13:57.56 | sargun-palm | apparently since sjansen, ruler of the known universe said so? |
| 13:58.03 | Supaplex | ever since congress made more nonsense |
| 13:58.03 | sargun-palm | ~sjansen |
| 13:58.04 | ibot | sjansen is one hoopy frood who really knows where his towel is |
| 13:59.36 | sargun-palm | ibot, sjansen is one hoopy ruler of the known universe who really knows where his towel is. |
| 13:59.36 | ibot | ACTION tells is one hoopy ruler of the known universe who really knows where his towel is. good things about sjansen |
| 13:59.53 | sargun-palm | multiple times |
| 13:59.57 | sargun-palm | in the face. |
| 14:00.05 | Supaplex | ~listkeys sjansen |
| 14:00.06 | sargun-palm | legs. |
| 14:00.10 | sargun-palm | mouh |
| 14:00.15 | sargun-palm | mouth |
| 14:00.22 | sargun-palm | circuits |
| 14:00.37 | Supaplex | ibot: emulate sjansen |
| 14:00.37 | ibot | ACTION beats supaplex to a bloody pulp with some well crafted XML weapons |
| 14:00.54 | Supaplex | <pain>OUCH</pain> |
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| 14:07.59 | vontrapp | ~sjansenicide |
| 14:10.45 | Supaplex | ~steal sjansen's brain |
| 14:10.46 | ibot | ACTION grabs sjansen's brain and gives it to supaplex |
| 14:10.53 | Supaplex | wahou! |
| 14:13.02 | Supaplex | :P |
| 14:14.09 | vontrapp | mmmm, warm wassail |
| 14:14.50 | vontrapp | takes the chill right out of you |
| 14:15.00 | Supaplex | that sounds good right about now |
| 14:15.20 | Supaplex | too bad I only have instant cinamon apple cider :P |
| 14:16.46 | vontrapp | if i had a timer on the stove, i would have it turn on high in the morning with a tea kettle on it |
| 14:16.56 | vontrapp | wake up to the whistling of hot water |
| 14:17.18 | vontrapp | then make something warm and delicious |
| 14:18.11 | Supaplex | speaking of which, does anyone have a recepie for ~2lb loaf of wheat bread in a bread maker? |
| 14:18.42 | vontrapp | put two pounds of wheat bread stuff in the maker, let the maker do the work? |
| 14:18.51 | Supaplex | so much on google is just spam white noise :-/ |
| 14:19.08 | Supaplex | oh thanks vontrapp, that helps a lot now. |
| 14:19.12 | vontrapp | ugh, recipe searches suck |
| 14:19.13 | Supaplex | ;-z |
| 14:19.49 | vontrapp | 2lb is pretty big, you must have a monster maker |
| 14:20.12 | Supaplex | it'll do 1.5-2lb |
| 14:20.23 | Supaplex | let me check actually, maybe it'll do 1lb to |
| 14:20.33 | vontrapp | ~convert 2 lb to kilo |
| 14:20.41 | vontrapp | ~convert 2 lb to kg |
| 14:20.59 | vontrapp | ok, not as big as i though |
| 14:21.00 | vontrapp | t |
| 14:21.12 | Supaplex | no, you're much bigger ;) |
| 14:21.24 | vontrapp | ~shoot Supaplex |
| 14:21.24 | ibot | ACTION shoots Supaplex in the foot with a phase pistol! |
| 14:21.34 | vontrapp | haha, dance! |
| 14:23.55 | Supaplex | oh hooohoooo... |
| 14:24.03 | vontrapp | ~shoot Supaplex in the nose |
| 14:24.03 | ibot | ACTION shoots Supaplex in the nose in the ear with a glue gun! |
| 14:24.07 | Supaplex | Results 1 - 10 of about 286,000 for recipe wheat bread 'bread machine' OR 'bread maker' cups |
| 14:24.41 | Supaplex | better than Results 1 - 10 of about 465,000 for recipe wheat bread 'bread machine' OR 'bread maker' |
| 14:24.44 | Supaplex | =) |
| 14:25.06 | vontrapp | i only got 97000 |
| 14:25.07 | Supaplex | the latter was all 'buy our mix' |
| 14:26.38 | vontrapp | ~google wheat bread in a bread maker with instant yeast |
| 14:27.14 | vontrapp | -google foo |
| 14:27.14 | brac | foo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo |
| 14:27.25 | vontrapp | -google wheat bread in a bread maker with instant yeast |
| 14:27.25 | brac | wheat bread in a bread maker with instant yeast: http://www.razzledazzlerecipes.com/bread-machine-recipes/whole_wheat-bread.htm |
| 14:28.03 | vontrapp | who still uses .htm? honestly... |
| 14:28.04 | Supaplex | http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=112 |
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| 14:29.43 | vontrapp | but now you have to find gluten |
| 14:29.55 | Supaplex | yeaw.... |
| 14:30.51 | Supaplex | http://www.cookingnook.com/bread-machine-recipes.html |
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| 14:33.13 | Supaplex | funny that. no kitchen required? google ad text: Make Delicious Bread and Rolls! 1000s of Recipes with Free Toolbar |
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| 14:42.55 | brac | so it wouldn't come off, so i'm logging back in. |
| 14:43.13 | elg | do you think that will help? |
| 14:45.57 | elg | Does it occur to anyone else that the rolling in the grass scene in Star Wars II is the perfect video for Talking Loud and Clear by OMD? |
| 14:46.22 | Tene | elg: you ever get a copy of 10.5's Terminal? |
| 14:46.33 | elg | yeah, my copy of 10.5 came in |
| 14:46.48 | Tene | Heh. |
| 14:47.11 | Tene | Now you just need trees... |
| 14:49.46 | Supaplex | what, no ascii art? |
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| 14:55.10 | Supaplex | thaddeusq: morning greetings |
| 14:55.26 | thaddeusq | Supaplex: morning |
| 15:12.48 | tristanbob_ | how does firefox search work? does it start with most recent emails first? or oldest first? |
| 15:12.55 | tristanbob_ | I meant thunderbird |
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| 15:47.45 | dataw0lf | Morning Mac |
| 15:52.17 | sjansen | Afternoon Linux |
| 15:52.25 | sjansen | Evening Windows |
| 15:53.38 | Supaplex | Helloooo cheese |
| 15:55.10 | findlay | ~cheese Supaplex |
| 15:55.10 | ibot | ACTION hands Supaplex a tray of sliced sharp cheddar and pineapple |
| 15:55.18 | findlay | oooh |
| 15:55.20 | Supaplex | ouhhh yumm. |
| 15:55.38 | Supaplex | ~cheese findlay |
| 15:55.39 | ibot | ACTION hands findlay a tray of sliced sharp cheddar and pineapple |
| 15:55.45 | Supaplex | ;) |
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| 15:56.21 | findlay | -chat chese |
| 15:56.21 | brac | chese was |
| 15:56.25 | findlay | -chat cheese |
| 15:56.25 | brac | cheese had |
| 15:57.23 | Supaplex | -chat -chat |
| 15:57.23 | brac | -chat did |
| 15:57.25 | elg | hey Jayce^ (and neighbors), my parents are thinking of moving out by you guys (ranches/eagle mountain), but they've heard rumors that utilities are through the roof. is that just fud or ... |
| 15:57.45 | fozzmoo | I've been out there. I think all the utilities are buried underground. |
| 15:57.49 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 15:57.59 | elg | -lart fozzmoo |
| 15:58.34 | goozbach | yumm pineapple |
| 15:59.21 | fozzmoo | TGI-Pineapple! |
| 15:59.29 | goozbach | TGIP |
| 15:59.44 | goozbach | tired and hungry |
| 15:59.47 | goozbach | barg! |
| 15:59.55 | Jayce^ | pretty fuddy |
| 16:00.02 | Jayce^ | mine have actually been cheaper than most friends.. |
| 16:00.05 | Jayce^ | it's varied by year.. |
| 16:00.21 | goozbach | anyone here go to the cheesecake factory |
| 16:00.22 | goozbach | ? |
| 16:00.24 | goozbach | yet |
| 16:00.27 | goozbach | in murry that is? |
| 16:00.32 | goozbach | I wish I was there |
| 16:00.36 | goozbach | stupid moving |
| 16:00.42 | fozzmoo | There's a CF in Murray? |
| 16:00.48 | goozbach | yup |
| 16:00.49 | Jayce^ | the big problem is it's all city owned, and bought off the market |
| 16:00.50 | sjansen | There's a Cheesecake Facgtory in Murray?! |
| 16:00.53 | goozbach | opened yesterday |
| 16:01.07 | goozbach | at fashionplace |
| 16:01.10 | sjansen | will wonders never cease? |
| 16:01.11 | fozzmoo | Why didn't they have CF here BEFORE I was diabetic?! |
| 16:01.34 | sjansen | An IKEA, an CF. Soon we'll have a Trader Joe's. |
| 16:01.36 | elg | Why didn't they have cheesecake before diabetes?! |
| 16:01.45 | Supaplex | sjansen: ouuu tempting |
| 16:01.46 | sjansen | SL is becoming all cosmopolitan and stuff. |
| 16:01.50 | fozzmoo | It's a chicken and egg thing |
| 16:02.11 | elg | Jayce^: I'm listening. ignore goozbach and keep telling me all I need to know :) |
| 16:02.22 | Jayce^ | a few times there have been big jumps |
| 16:02.37 | sjansen | Jayce^ Jayce^ will make you want to jump jump |
| 16:02.45 | goozbach | I want chesecake |
| 16:02.49 | Jayce^ | but still, my electricty was a good 35% less than friends in springville this summer (one of the top prices in the state) |
| 16:03.03 | fozzmoo | Why is Springville so pricey? |
| 16:03.06 | Jayce^ | I think most people complain a) all utilities are on one bill, causes more shock |
| 16:03.08 | goozbach | but my food budget is gone now... my fiance got robbed yesterday :( |
| 16:03.16 | fozzmoo | WHAT?! |
| 16:03.20 | Supaplex | fozzmoo: they're still paying for the back fence network ;) |
| 16:03.26 | fozzmoo | goozbach: REALLY?! |
| 16:03.33 | Jayce^ | b) most people are at a first house, and broke, so it's more than they are used to paying |
| 16:03.36 | Supaplex | ~Cheesecake |
| 16:03.37 | ibot | hmm... cheesecake is statistically the most popular dessert ordered in restaurants, or goozbach fuel |
| 16:03.43 | Jayce^ | goozbach, so give her the money back! |
| 16:04.11 | goozbach | someone broke into her car and stole her purse, which had gobs of cash, a bunch of recepits for returns she had to make, both her and her boss' credit cards |
| 16:04.17 | Supaplex | Jayce^: it's all that cheesecake. he should control himself. ;) |
| 16:04.21 | fozzmoo | goozbach: OMG! |
| 16:04.26 | Supaplex | ouch! |
| 16:04.50 | Jayce^ | ouch |
| 16:04.51 | elg | goozbach: that stinks |
| 16:05.03 | fozzmoo | That's terrible |
| 16:05.04 | Jayce^ | elg, do you know what part of the ranches? |
| 16:05.08 | elg | i've had two car radios stolen out of my car. makes you just want to curl up and die |
| 16:05.09 | goozbach | yeah |
| 16:05.10 | goozbach | stinky |
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| 16:05.22 | goozbach | I was all set to get some neverblock work done last night too. |
| 16:05.26 | elg | Jayce^: not really, though closer to the freeway is better in general |
| 16:05.31 | goozbach | but I didn't cause I had to be consoling |
| 16:05.32 | elg | he'll be commuting to draper |
| 16:05.42 | Jayce^ | well, ranches/silverlake would be good then |
| 16:05.47 | Jayce^ | not EM central |
| 16:05.53 | Jayce^ | price range? |
| 16:05.58 | elg | where are you? |
| 16:06.00 | Jayce^ | or size |
| 16:06.01 | goozbach | ohh!!! free lunch friday time |
| 16:06.05 | Jayce^ | I'm at work :-p |
| 16:06.06 | levi | elg: Did your new one just get stolen? |
| 16:06.08 | elg | i don't know. |
| 16:06.14 | elg | levi: it got stolen 3 days after I got it |
| 16:06.23 | elg | i haven't replaced it |
| 16:06.38 | elg | Jayce^: :-P |
| 16:07.08 | sjansen | Supposedly the Toyota Camry is one of the most stolen cars ever. |
| 16:07.13 | elg | they've got 2 kids at home and 5 more that come to visit. probably a normal sized two story |
| 16:07.18 | fozzmoo | That's so weird. |
| 16:07.28 | sjansen | I'm not worried, though. Might is more than a decade old. The roof is rusting. And I'm missing a hubcap. |
| 16:07.28 | fozzmoo | I've never had a car stereo stolen and I've had some nice ones. |
| 16:07.34 | fozzmoo | Of course, they've all been in Subarus. |
| 16:07.38 | sjansen | If that doesn't say "don't bother" I don't know what does. |
| 16:07.42 | elg | sjansen: supposedly the '91 honda accord (my car) is one of the most too |
| 16:07.56 | sjansen | s/Might/Mine/ |
| 16:07.57 | elg | but it has a bent hood, and no radio :-p |
| 16:08.02 | Supaplex | i hear cars with 4 tires get stolen frequently |
| 16:08.31 | fozzmoo | Supaplex: Really? They're statistically more likely to be affected? |
| 16:08.42 | elg | you have to wonder though, is that because there are more accords/camrys on the road, so it's natural that of cars stolen they would rank high, or is it because they aim for those cars because parts can sell? |
| 16:09.00 | Supaplex | now elg's starting to ask the right questions :) |
| 16:09.18 | fozzmoo | elg: Makes you wonder if that Freakonomics book missed the boat on that one. |
| 16:09.25 | fozzmoo | because they didn't have a chapter on it. |
| 16:09.52 | levi | elg: I've only ever had one car stereo stolen. Out of my garage, in Provo, from my Jeep. |
| 16:10.26 | fozzmoo | My first Subaru was stolen and taken for a joyride into some mailboxes and parked cars. |
| 16:10.39 | fozzmoo | When I went to see it after the fact... the stereo was missing from the dash... |
| 16:10.43 | fozzmoo | but I found it in the trunk. |
| 16:10.46 | fozzmoo | very confusing. |
| 16:10.54 | fozzmoo | It was on a sled. |
| 16:11.04 | fozzmoo | So I took it out and put it in the Subaru I replaced that one with. |
| 16:11.49 | findlay | my subaru has a walmart brand speakers and unit |
| 16:11.56 | findlay | awesome fidelity |
| 16:12.28 | findlay | you can almost hear stuff at full volume on the freeway |
| 16:12.32 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 16:12.52 | fozzmoo | I always wanted a vinyl sticker for my back window that said POWERED BY KRAKO! |
| 16:13.28 | findlay | of course most of the CDs I listen to have *WAY* more dynamic range than whatever other stuff is out there on the radio |
| 16:14.19 | levi | I have a 5-channel amp in my trunk, and since I only have 3 speakers, both left and both right channels are bridged together. My stereo goes LOUD. :) |
| 16:14.30 | fozzmoo | wow. yeah. |
| 16:14.44 | findlay | not easily listenable in a noisy car careening 29 m/s |
| 16:15.04 | findlay | not easily listenable in a noisy car careening 29 m/s down a long concrete pad they call 'The Freeway' |
| 16:15.05 | levi | It used to be in my Jeep, which did have 5 speakers and still went loud. |
| 16:15.35 | fozzmoo | I'd like to find a cheap amp- mono or stereo (bridgeable) so I can get a sub. |
| 16:15.37 | levi | findlay: I even have trouble listening to classical music in my car on the freeway. Though I'm sure my car is a lot noisier than yours. |
| 16:16.21 | Supaplex | levi: buy a muffler, and not the kind you wear |
| 16:16.28 | elg | i have trouble listening to classical music on the freeway. it puts me to sleep |
| 16:17.01 | sjansen | more cannons! |
| 16:17.04 | sjansen | and cowbell! |
| 16:17.34 | levi | Supaplex: My muffler is fine. |
| 16:17.51 | sjansen | it's the rice paper car doors |
| 16:17.51 | Supaplex | levi: </joke> :) |
| 16:17.53 | levi | fozzmoo: What price range are you looking at? |
| 16:17.59 | fozzmoo | levi: Cheap. |
| 16:18.16 | fozzmoo | I looked at Crutchfield and was taken back by how much a low-end amp costs. |
| 16:18.17 | levi | fozzmoo: Well, I might be able to help you if you get me specifics. :P |
| 16:18.23 | findlay | yup |
| 16:18.31 | sjansen | fozzmoo: I could pry the speaker out of a dead cellphone for you. That'd be real cheap. |
| 16:18.31 | fozzmoo | I don't want to go Wal Mart or anything |
| 16:18.46 | findlay | elg: what was that shoe site you were talking about a long time ago? |
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| 16:18.59 | levi | fozzmoo: This would be a JBL or Infinity amp. |
| 16:19.12 | fozzmoo | I used to have a Pioneer 100W that I bridged for a sub way, way back. |
| 16:19.26 | fozzmoo | It worked great for a 8-inch sealed box. |
| 16:19.35 | fozzmoo | I'm not looking for much. Just a little more ooomph. |
| 16:19.57 | fozzmoo | I got a 10-inch ported box once and it was OVERKILL. |
| 16:20.11 | levi | How's $85.80 for 2 channels of 60W each sound? |
| 16:20.20 | fozzmoo | levi: That's sweet. |
| 16:20.20 | levi | 60W RMS, that is. |
| 16:20.28 | Supaplex | don't lose them rivets now |
| 16:20.57 | fozzmoo | levi: Is it hot? :) |
| 16:21.12 | levi | fozzmoo: No, it's my employee discount price for buying stuff for friends. |
| 16:21.28 | findlay | sjansen: what do you know about UND? |
| 16:21.29 | levi | I can get it at half of that for me or immediate family. |
| 16:21.46 | fozzmoo | levi: What? YOu're working for a stereo shop now? |
| 16:22.20 | levi | fozzmoo: No, I work for Harman. |
| 16:22.25 | fozzmoo | levi: Oh wow! |
| 16:22.27 | fozzmoo | I didn't know that! |
| 16:22.30 | fozzmoo | I used to work there. |
| 16:22.33 | fozzmoo | In IT. |
| 16:22.43 | sjansen | UND is a rival of NDSU. UND apparently became a university before NDSU. |
| 16:22.45 | levi | We talked about it the other night. :) |
| 16:22.51 | fozzmoo | 1994-95 |
| 16:22.54 | sjansen | NDSU's mascot is the bison. |
| 16:23.02 | sjansen | Which leads me to... |
| 16:23.17 | findlay | bison aren't buffalo |
| 16:23.22 | fozzmoo | levi: Were you under a diff. nick? |
| 16:23.27 | levi | Nope. |
| 16:23.38 | findlay | ask any large fauna taxonomist |
| 16:23.45 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.47 | fozzmoo | Okay. Well, yeah, that'd be cool. |
| 16:23.49 | levi | There was another guy here who also used to work for HMG. |
| 16:24.02 | fozzmoo | Is Rick Kreifeldt still there? |
| 16:24.07 | levi | Yup. |
| 16:24.15 | fozzmoo | He's pretty high up now, isn't he? |
| 16:24.26 | fozzmoo | He was just a lowly engineer back then. We went to school together at USU. |
| 16:24.41 | levi | Yeah, he's a VP at Harman Pro Group or something like that. He's my boss's boss. |
| 16:24.43 | fozzmoo | I got him and a buddy of mine together and they had a band for 2 or 3 years. |
| 16:24.44 | sjansen | UND has a pretty little campus. Actually, I shouldn't call it little. IIRC, It's a land grant university, so it's pretty big. But not as spread of as NDSU. |
| 16:25.02 | fozzmoo | I converted the company from coax to twisted pair networking. :) |
| 16:25.09 | fozzmoo | They were in repeater hell. |
| 16:25.10 | sjansen | Supposedly their flight program is pretty big. Don't know much more academically. |
| 16:25.13 | fozzmoo | Collissions all over the place. |
| 16:25.28 | sjansen | ND is cold. Grand Forks is... not exactly a center of excitement. |
| 16:25.42 | fozzmoo | levi: So you're driving from Lehi to Sandy? |
| 16:25.51 | findlay | how far from Mineapolis and Detroit? |
| 16:26.03 | findlay | Chicago? |
| 16:26.22 | sjansen | far |
| 16:26.34 | levi | fozzmoo: Yup. |
| 16:26.43 | findlay | how far from nowhere? |
| 16:26.47 | fozzmoo | And you used to live like... walking distance from Harman. :) |
| 16:26.47 | levi | fozzmoo: Oh, you might also want to look at what Rip-off Ralph has got. :) |
| 16:26.49 | sjansen | very close |
| 16:27.00 | sjansen | nowhere is only about 30 miles away |
| 16:27.03 | fozzmoo | Rip-off Ralph? |
| 16:27.20 | sjansen | Although if you want the middle of nowhere you'll have to drive a couple of hours away. |
| 16:27.42 | findlay | well, the recruiter promised that they'd shower me with the monies |
| 16:28.05 | findlay | apparently you can buy anything with money, including solitude |
| 16:28.09 | sjansen | ND is a nice place to visit. If it weren't for the winters and lack of jobs, I'd want to go back. |
| 16:28.16 | levi | fozzmoo: He's this guy that runs a little car stereo shop in Provo. He sells stuff at slightly over his cost. |
| 16:29.09 | Supaplex | I must taste like bug bait. I've had 8 bug bites on the same hand in a month all the sudden. |
| 16:29.46 | fozzmoo | levi: Huh. |
| 16:30.21 | findlay | levi: where? |
| 16:30.38 | levi | findlay: I'll look it up, hold on. |
| 16:30.38 | elg | findlay: zappos.com |
| 16:30.46 | findlay | elg: thanks |
| 16:33.36 | levi | 469 N 500 W |
| 16:33.41 | levi | Called 'Auto Specialties' |
| 16:33.51 | levi | Sorry, 496 N |
| 16:34.44 | Supaplex | can the ipod shuffle be used as a general purpose usb-stick to? |
| 16:35.02 | levi | Supaplex: Yes. |
| 16:45.28 | Supaplex | cool. 1gb isn't much, but after selling my old 128mb mp3 player, I need a little fix. It'll go great with my car fm transmitter. |
| 16:45.37 | Supaplex | :) |
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| 17:00.40 | bucky | ~slap bucky |
| 17:00.41 | ibot | ACTION slaps bucky, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:05.42 | Tene | ~buckybot bucky |
| 17:05.43 | ibot | bucky: you're a stupid idiot, and I can tell you that all I want, but if you say anything mean to me, I'll start crying and insulting everything I can, because you're discriminating against me! |
| 17:07.39 | levi | Supaplex: Note that you need iTunes or gtkpod or whatever to get music onto it to play, but if you want to store regular files for transport or whatever, then it works just like a USB flash stick. |
| 17:09.02 | maquis | Supaplex: go for something besides the shuffle, and you can stick an open-source firmware on it, and then you don't need itunes or gtkpod to get stuff on it |
| 17:09.09 | maquis | and you can play doom |
| 17:09.19 | maquis | bucky's back? |
| 17:09.46 | rsimpkins | Who in here works at Consonus? |
| 17:10.13 | Tene | maquis: has been for a decent while |
| 17:10.22 | maquis | + |
| 17:10.24 | maquis | er |
| 17:10.24 | Tene | I've been waiting for an excuse to buckybot him. |
| 17:10.28 | maquis | i missed that |
| 17:10.45 | rsimpkins | maquis: Are you at one of the SLC facilities? |
| 17:10.56 | maquis | rsimpkins: huh? |
| 17:11.02 | rsimpkins | maquis: Do you work for Consonus? |
| 17:11.05 | maquis | nope |
| 17:11.08 | rsimpkins | oh. |
| 17:11.12 | maquis | my company doesn't even believe in consensus... |
| 17:11.13 | maquis | : |
| 17:11.14 | maquis | :) |
| 17:11.21 | rsimpkins | hehe |
| 17:11.55 | rsimpkins | Oh, that's right. mrpull. |
| 17:12.10 | rsimpkins | Thank goodness for that member directory on PLUG. :) |
| 17:12.41 | Tene | And where do *I* work?! |
| 17:13.05 | rsimpkins | Tene: You are a homeless bum stealing interenet from the starbucks downtown. |
| 17:13.33 | rsimpkins | :P |
| 17:13.37 | bucky | maquis, when did you move to minnesota? |
| 17:13.48 | Tene | Possibly. |
| 17:13.49 | maquis | bucky: i don't live in minnesota |
| 17:14.05 | rsimpkins | maquis: You live in - Denver? |
| 17:14.17 | maquis | rsimpkins: nope |
| 17:15.14 | bucky | while you're up there keep an eye open for when they finally get around to sentencing my former county commissioner for 40 counts of bank fraud and money laundering for bilking 600 school districts in 20 different states out of $60M |
| 17:15.18 | rsimpkins | maquis: Seattle. |
| 17:15.59 | rsimpkins | maquis: Everett, WA? Am I getting any closer? |
| 17:16.30 | maquis | rsimpkins: seattle is pretty close :) |
| 17:16.50 | maquis | i work in seattle |
| 17:17.17 | bucky | i'm a real utahn |
| 17:19.36 | rsimpkins | I'm a fake cuban. |
| 17:20.48 | bucky | is that a reference to Monica Lewinsky? |
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| 17:33.26 | Supaplex | [Citation Needed] |
| 17:37.13 | bucky | oh here we go... You big converts just don't want to play nice with any of the locals around here, do you? |
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| 17:38.00 | Supaplex | yea, I missed it myself. |
| 17:38.00 | bucky | he knows what I'm talking about |
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| 17:46.44 | ^Migs^ | who needs $60M? |
| 17:46.51 | ^Migs^ | I would've stopped at $1M |
| 17:47.58 | ^Migs^ | then make some good investments to guarantee it would appreciate in value, so I won't have to worry come retirement |
| 17:51.26 | rsimpkins | I think 10 is the right number. I once new a very wealthy man. He said "There is little difference between 10 million and 100 million." |
| 17:51.30 | rsimpkins | I'll have to take his word for it. |
| 17:51.41 | rsimpkins | new/knew |
| 17:53.56 | rsimpkins | I think his point was that it was very hard making the first several million, but after that it became much easier to make money. |
| 17:55.29 | maquis | -chat |
| 17:55.30 | brac | Were joking/talking/being nice to know what you need to combine with atoponce and create a account |
| 17:55.37 | fozzmoo | Yeah- at some point, compounding interest is significant. :) |
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| 18:05.02 | ^Migs^ | I so want to leave. Working on Friday should be OPTIONAL. I mean, come on! It's Friday! |
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| 18:06.16 | brac | go away |
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| 18:51.11 | bonez39 | with etch, is there any GUI way to change screen resolution or is it all controlled with dpkg-reconfigure???? |
| 18:51.28 | maquis | bonez39: is a text editor "gui"? |
| 18:51.32 | maquis | :P |
| 18:51.53 | bonez39 | maquis: damn..you always know how to state things to blow me out o the water......! |
| 18:52.02 | maquis | :) |
| 18:52.13 | bonez39 | is it dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 18:52.16 | bonez39 | I forget |
| 18:52.32 | maquis | i dunno |
| 18:54.22 | ^Migs^ | http://www.fatsquirrel.org/software/ploppy/ |
| 18:54.23 | brac | [Ploppy - WordPress Plugin] |
| 18:55.07 | Tene | bonez39: on fedora, there's system-config-display. ;) |
| 19:01.43 | Supaplex | bonez39: yes, but you might have to request a different priority. |
| 19:02.16 | Tene | maquis: what is important to differ between distros? |
| 19:02.24 | beandog | maquis, like what |
| 19:02.29 | Supaplex | myself I perfer using xvidtune, then dumping all my modelines to the config. |
| 19:03.09 | maquis | there's all types of different "system configuration" tools out there, but it seems like the primary ones are so distro-dependent that there's not much point in learning them unless you want to limit yourself to a particular distro |
| 19:03.25 | maquis | it seems kind-of silly |
| 19:03.26 | Supaplex | well, what of lsb? |
| 19:03.38 | maquis | why do we even have so many different distros |
| 19:03.58 | maquis | why can't you just install linux, and when you do that, you select what source-control manager you personally prefer |
| 19:04.07 | maquis | etc |
| 19:04.09 | Supaplex | why does windows have so many limitations? |
| 19:04.21 | ^Migs^ | limitations? Or features? |
| 19:04.34 | beandog | because "just installing linux" is a royal pita without some kind of package manager. |
| 19:04.37 | Supaplex | maquis: you're asking the pardoical equivilent of, why is there so few limitations? |
| 19:05.05 | Supaplex | s/why is/why are/ |
| 19:29.55 | maquis | Supaplex: actually, i'm asking a totally different question |
| 19:30.03 | maquis | i'm asking "why are there so many limitations" |
| 19:31.30 | Supaplex | I thought you asked why are there so many distros |
| 19:33.16 | maquis | kind-of |
| 19:33.35 | Supaplex | feel free to restate |
| 19:33.46 | maquis | it's more of "why do we need things separated into distros?" |
| 19:34.09 | maquis | ie, why can't i use these redhat tools with that suse tool, and another ubuntu tool, and install them all with portage |
| 19:34.12 | maquis | or something to that effect |
| 19:34.21 | Supaplex | we could go back to the oldschool slackware mentaility |
| 19:34.29 | Supaplex | oh, that. gotca. |
| 19:34.35 | maquis | i don't like things that are distro-dependent |
| 19:34.48 | Supaplex | I don't blame you. it raises the learning curve. |
| 19:35.10 | Supaplex | openwrt would have some challenges staying as small as it is that way. |
| 19:36.25 | maquis | i usually end up doing most things the "hard" way, because it tends to be the way that works everywhere |
| 19:37.09 | maquis | so, for x configuration, i usually end up opening up my xorg.conf and editing it manually |
| 19:37.18 | Supaplex | they're all different by design to begin with, the least common denominator is what we're after regardless, right? |
| 19:37.19 | maquis | because i know that whatever distro i happen to be on, that'll generally work |
| 19:38.52 | dataw0lf | Linux is the kernel. |
| 19:38.59 | maquis | on the same note, why do so many X apps have to have either gnome or kde? that limits my options if i don't run one of them or the other |
| 19:38.59 | dataw0lf | It's left up to the community on how to build around that. |
| 19:39.17 | dataw0lf | because GTK+ and Qt |
| 19:39.27 | dataw0lf | you can run one on the other. |
| 19:39.39 | maquis | dataw0lf: sure... but you have to install piles and piles of libraries |
| 19:39.48 | dataw0lf | Oh noes. Not libraries. |
| 19:40.26 | maquis | most of those libraries aren't actually used... |
| 19:40.30 | maquis | they just... exist |
| 19:40.50 | Supaplex | are you installing the whole family of apps and libs, or just one specific app? |
| 19:41.11 | dataw0lf | The fact that you can choose from a variety of options seems to be more in the nature of Linux |
| 19:41.21 | dataw0lf | Rather than just supplying one standard desktop and be done with it. |
| 19:41.45 | dataw0lf | If your distro doesn't supply a tool for you (and I find this hard to believe for most common tools), you can always compile it. |
| 19:41.49 | maquis | Supaplex: there have been plenty of times where i just wanted to install one app, but when it listed out what dependencies it was going to install, it included gnome, and about 30 gnome libraries, etc |
| 19:42.02 | dataw0lf | If you want a prepackaged Unix based operating system, however, why don't you just use OS X? |
| 19:42.03 | Supaplex | one desktop only model is generally repulsive to me. Mac is a pretty close exception, but there are things I'd like different. |
| 19:42.20 | dataw0lf | I abhor OS X, but it seems to be what you want. |
| 19:42.45 | maquis | dataw0lf: i *don't* want a prepackages system |
| 19:42.53 | maquis | i want a system where i only have to install what i want |
| 19:43.07 | dataw0lf | Like Linux From Scratch? |
| 19:43.35 | maquis | dataw0lf: similar, but with a real package manager |
| 19:43.42 | maquis | pretty much, the closest i've found so far is fbsd |
| 19:43.58 | dataw0lf | You can get a skeletal Debian install. |
| 19:44.10 | dataw0lf | Same with Gentoo, of course. |
| 19:45.32 | maquis | i'm just complaining about the way that so many apps try to depend on things that they really shouldn't be dependent on |
| 19:45.49 | dataw0lf | well, that's called the "horror of package managers" |
| 19:46.06 | dataw0lf | and, generally, if you know your package management system well, you should be able to circumvent it. |
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| 19:46.22 | maquis | *shrug* |
| 19:46.28 | dataw0lf | I haven't had too many problems circumventing ridiculous dpkg dependencies when I need to. |
| 19:46.31 | maquis | i just don't run anything that wants gnome/kde stuff |
| 19:46.49 | maquis | if it expects gnome, kde, or more than 3 libraries from either of them, it's not going on my system |
| 19:48.20 | dataw0lf | thanks for the announcement. |
| 19:48.29 | dataw0lf | isn't that called 'xfce4' ? |
| 19:49.39 | beandog | pretty much |
| 19:50.06 | dataw0lf | <3 xfce |
| 19:52.38 | maquis | DRM => Don't Restrict Me |
| 19:52.40 | dataw0lf | my new plasma tv looks amazing hooked up to my newly built media box. |
| 19:56.04 | dataw0lf | hmmmmm |
| 19:56.16 | dataw0lf | I think I'm going to write a wrapper for apt-cache search so I can use proper regular expressions. |
| 19:56.22 | dataw0lf | this is ridiculous. |
| 19:57.58 | beandog | heh |
| 19:58.01 | beandog | rawk |
| 20:10.23 | levi | Heh, I never figured we'd have so many smug anti-TV elitists on PLUG. |
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| 20:12.26 | dataw0lf | yea, I'm used to all the smug elitists, but, anti-TV, c'mon! |
| 20:12.28 | dataw0lf | ;-) |
| 20:12.37 | maquis | man... i want a t-shirt now... :) |
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| 20:13.50 | dataw0lf | levi: I'm pretty sure I could bring up white versus grey socks and conjure an inordinate amount of smug elitists on PLUG. I'm surprised that you didn't expect it. |
| 20:18.09 | maquis | lol |
| 20:18.52 | pelaofeliz | white sockz rulz0rz!!!11one! |
| 20:19.38 | levi | maquis: Lots of, "I haven't watched TV in years! I only have it to watch movies!" |
| 20:19.57 | dataw0lf | "No, no, I hate TV waaaay more than you!!" |
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| 20:20.10 | Lakshmi | hey fozzmoo |
| 20:20.13 | maquis | hmmm |
| 20:20.15 | maquis | we don't have a tv |
| 20:20.26 | levi | Apparently watching a show now and again rots your brain. That must be why I'm so stupid. |
| 20:20.27 | maquis | but that's more due to time/money |
| 20:20.56 | maquis | i kinda wish we could get HGTV and the cooking channel and sci-fi channel |
| 20:21.09 | fozzmoo | maquis: You can. |
| 20:21.15 | fozzmoo | maquis: isohunt.com ;-) |
| 20:21.53 | maquis | i mean... like... just watch whatever's on on those |
| 20:22.41 | fozzmoo | Oh. You're non-discriminating. |
| 20:22.50 | fozzmoo | You're one of... *those* |
| 20:22.56 | beandog | lol |
| 20:22.59 | levi | I like eztvefnet.org... which I see is now eztv.it |
| 20:23.02 | beandog | tv++ |
| 20:23.06 | Heartsbane | maquis: your not missing anything |
| 20:23.09 | beandog | hdtv, even better |
| 20:23.21 | beandog | pbs + hdtv = supah fantastic |
| 20:23.28 | levi | beandog: I agree! |
| 20:23.32 | dataw0lf | beandog: yar. HBO series, CSPAN, PBS, Always Sunny in Philadelphia++ |
| 20:23.50 | dataw0lf | oh, and the Daily Show and The Colbert Report |
| 20:24.06 | beandog | Im thinking about getting satellite to get more HDTV channels |
| 20:24.13 | Heartsbane | dataw0lf: is 'Always Sunny in Philadephia' that good |
| 20:24.13 | beandog | dunno if its worth it though |
| 20:24.17 | maquis | Heartsbane: well.. not much |
| 20:24.21 | maquis | but hgtv is fun |
| 20:24.26 | fozzmoo | PBS + HDTV ? That's a LOT of data intended to convince you the planet is about to boil its oceans away. |
| 20:24.48 | Heartsbane | maquis: not as much fun as IFC |
| 20:24.52 | levi | fozzmoo: Conspiracy theory much? |
| 20:24.54 | dataw0lf | Heartsbane: I like it quite a bit. |
| 20:24.55 | maquis | Heartsbane: whazzat? |
| 20:25.16 | fozzmoo | levi: Just seems like PBS is all about the global warming theories. |
| 20:25.27 | fozzmoo | s/theories/hysterics/ |
| 20:25.33 | beandog | you dont watch enough PBS then |
| 20:25.44 | fozzmoo | Probably not. |
| 20:25.46 | levi | fozzmoo: Seems like you don't watch much PBS. :) |
| 20:25.46 | Heartsbane | maquis: Independent Film Channel and Sundance Channel, TLC, and SciFi are what I watch the most |
| 20:25.57 | beandog | I wanna get TNT |
| 20:26.02 | fozzmoo | I like Discovery Science a lot. |
| 20:26.05 | beandog | so I can watch all the crime dramas |
| 20:26.08 | levi | Nova had an awesome show on samurai swords a few weeks ago. |
| 20:26.16 | beandog | Nova is a great show |
| 20:26.23 | dataw0lf | Nova rocks. |
| 20:26.32 | fozzmoo | but even then, they explain a lot of stuff w/ global warming. |
| 20:26.37 | levi | fozzmoo probably wouldn't like it, because they may occasionally have global warming stuff. |
| 20:26.38 | beandog | :b |
| 20:26.42 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 20:27.00 | maquis | PBS sometimes has some good concerts and stuff... |
| 20:27.00 | fozzmoo | We're going to be getting a LCD TV here in the next couple months. |
| 20:27.07 | fozzmoo | So, maybe I'll upgrade to HD |
| 20:27.11 | beandog | its worth it |
| 20:27.11 | ^Migs^ | http://blog.wired.com/cars/2007/11/its-a-fat-world.html |
| 20:27.12 | levi | Anyone who believes in global warming must be tainted! Shun them! |
| 20:27.14 | fozzmoo | Or maybe just go terrestrial. |
| 20:27.24 | beandog | once you see HDTV, theres no going back |
| 20:27.31 | beandog | it significantly raises the standard of living |
| 20:27.36 | fozzmoo | levi: I believe in global warming. |
| 20:27.41 | fozzmoo | I just call it "solar warming." |
| 20:27.52 | levi | I just do terrestrial digital TV. Plenty of channels for me. |
| 20:28.07 | beandog | levi, how many do you pick up |
| 20:28.32 | levi | beandog: Pretty much all of them. Got a clear line of sight to Farnsworth Peak. |
| 20:28.41 | beandog | all of them? |
| 20:28.45 | beandog | like what.. I have no idea |
| 20:28.52 | beandog | local stations? |
| 20:28.57 | beandog | pbs, fox, nbc, etc? |
| 20:29.12 | levi | All the local stations, yeah. At least the Farnsworth Peak ones. |
| 20:29.17 | beandog | Hmm |
| 20:29.20 | Lakshmi | ~onjoin lakshmi you are the best person ever. |
| 20:29.20 | ibot | Lakshmi: ok |
| 20:29.22 | beandog | what do you use for an antenna |
| 20:29.28 | levi | See antennaweb.org |
| 20:29.29 | RyanE | levi: I watched the samurai sword show a few days ago. Gotta love MythTV |
| 20:29.54 | beandog | btw, Ill pay someone $50 if they can manage to somehow setup my HDTV card on myth |
| 20:30.03 | beandog | since Ive tried and failed coutnless times. |
| 20:30.06 | beandog | countless |
| 20:30.13 | beandog | well, at least 4. |
| 20:30.18 | levi | beandog: My mythtv HD stuff is picked up via regular rabbit ears with a UHF loop. |
| 20:30.21 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 20:30.33 | RyanE | Brandon Beattie has done it before. Maybe you should ask him. |
| 20:30.33 | beandog | levi, just an indoor one? |
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| 20:30.50 | beandog | I hear Brandon runs anytime he sees me coming |
| 20:30.51 | RyanE | I get squat from OTA where I live (Highland). Mountain freakin' right in the way. |
| 20:30.53 | levi | I've got a rooftop UHF antenna that goes into my downstairs flatscreen, but I haven't run it to the HDHomeRun yet. |
| 20:30.55 | RyanE | beandog: heh |
| 20:31.00 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo. |
| 20:31.18 | levi | RyanE: Have you tried an outdoor UHF antenna with a digital tuner? |
| 20:31.36 | RyanE | I tried non-HD here, and could get *one* station with an outdoor antenna. |
| 20:31.37 | levi | Sometimes the analog broadcasts look like crap and the digital ones come in just fine. |
| 20:31.49 | beandog | are you sure its not just the crappy tv shows? |
| 20:31.51 | RyanE | of course, it's in the attic over the garage. I'll pull it out one day and try again. |
| 20:32.05 | RyanE | just didn't have a proper mount for it at the time |
| 20:32.17 | beandog | my tv actually has two coaxial inputs |
| 20:32.18 | beandog | kinda nice |
| 20:32.24 | beandog | one for cable, one for ota |
| 20:32.44 | levi | There are UHF antennas that mount to the same mast as DirectTV-style dishes. |
| 20:33.08 | RyanE | levi: so is ATSC in the UHF range? |
| 20:33.37 | levi | I just took down the dish the previous owner had, clamped the antenna on, and plugged into the same coax. |
| 20:33.54 | levi | ATSC is just the encoding. Most digital stations are in the UHF band, though. |
| 20:33.59 | RyanE | yeah, we did OTA (non-HD -- years ago) when we lived in Lehi. |
| 20:34.33 | levi | There's some worry that when analog broadcasts end, stations will move their digital channels back to VHF. |
| 20:34.53 | levi | It takes less power to broadcast VHF, apparently, but it also takes larger antennas. |
| 20:35.01 | levi | To pick it up, I mean. |
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| 20:35.49 | RyanE | so I was told yesterday that I'll need to justify my choice of Lua as a language to embed for end-user driver development. I hate justifying. |
| 20:36.14 | levi | That's why the old antennas on houses are so huge. They're designed to pick up VHF. |
| 20:36.14 | RyanE | yeah, dw!!! That's what my response to PLUG would've been... Woo! |
| 20:36.53 | bonez44 | maquis: still trying to reconfigure xserver or xorg, whichever I have running....to include more resolution settings...the Ctl-Alt-- or + combinations do not change anything....only one setting is installed now |
| 20:37.20 | bonez44 | suggestions? I know it's dpkg-reconfigure something |
| 20:38.06 | vontrapp | i love this 'solution' |
| 20:38.10 | vontrapp | http://www.daniweb.com/forums/post336520-2.html |
| 20:38.22 | vontrapp | so at the very end of the thread it says disable ipv6 |
| 20:38.28 | vontrapp | can anyone corroborate this? |
| 20:38.48 | vontrapp | (problem is network is "local only" when connecting to wireless) |
| 20:39.44 | vontrapp | on vista |
| 20:40.43 | levi | Channel 24, KPNZ, is the only major local station that hasn't gone digital yet. Their plan is to run their digital broadcast on channel 24 and move the analog one elsewhere, which is the opposite of the way everyone else did it. |
| 20:43.19 | vontrapp | no ideas? |
| 20:43.23 | vontrapp | no vista usesr? |
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| 20:51.56 | elg | solution to what? |
| 20:53.33 | sontek | vontrapp: We have over a 100 laptops in this building all running vista on the wireless and none of them have had a problem |
| 20:53.54 | elg | sounds to me like the problem is a broken dhcp server |
| 20:56.30 | elg | nice post on DSLs by phil |
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| 21:04.52 | beandog | dataw0lf, 56"? nice |
| 21:04.55 | beandog | mine is 50" |
| 21:05.00 | beandog | I wish I would have gotten the 55" now |
| 21:05.01 | beandog | oh well. |
| 21:06.25 | dataw0lf | beandog: yea, for... wait for it... 700 dollars. |
| 21:06.44 | beandog | buh |
| 21:06.48 | beandog | what did you get? |
| 21:07.21 | dataw0lf | JVC |
| 21:07.34 | fozzmoo | ar eyou guys talking about TVs? |
| 21:08.00 | dataw0lf | yes. |
| 21:08.03 | fozzmoo | I think I want a 26-32-inch for our dining room/kitchen. I'm going full-on DLP projector in the family room. |
| 21:08.15 | mindjuju | psh, got both you guys beat with my bright white, plastic molded, 22" tube with 2 built in speakers |
| 21:08.17 | dataw0lf | I was looking at DLPs |
| 21:08.31 | mindjuju | and headphone jack in the front |
| 21:08.43 | fozzmoo | mindjuju: HEADPHONE JACK IN THE FRONT?! NOOOooooooO! |
| 21:08.54 | mindjuju | dude, its sweat sexy hawtness |
| 21:09.00 | mindjuju | oops, sweet |
| 21:09.06 | fozzmoo | hee hee |
| 21:11.00 | beandog | lol |
| 21:11.40 | mindjuju | yeah beandog, be jealous, cause it is all that |
| 21:12.02 | dataw0lf | as a tivo system, mindjuju uses a camcorder |
| 21:12.11 | beandog | heh |
| 21:12.37 | mindjuju | sho nuff! i have it propped up just right, records to Hi8 tapes |
| 21:12.46 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 21:12.55 | mindjuju | course, for uber sound, i have the sound feed going direct from the tv to the camera |
| 21:13.01 | mindjuju | high tech i know... |
| 21:13.13 | Supaplex | I use socery for all that |
| 21:13.24 | Supaplex | er I mean I have sources for all that, eh yeah. |
| 21:15.10 | beandog | Ive still got my VHS player hooked up |
| 21:15.41 | Supaplex | it's so his betamax can play through it |
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| 21:16.12 | mindjuju | well, that's just the downstairs living room tv. in the master bedroom have the ultra hawt 13" dvd & TV combo |
| 21:16.45 | mindjuju | and in the basement have 19" tv with... wait for it.... dials! the latest in TV tuning technology |
| 21:17.15 | Supaplex | all those fine levels of gray to enjoy |
| 21:17.44 | mindjuju | it's color, and we got the optional upside down coat hanger for the antenna |
| 21:17.59 | Jayce^ | beandog, you want a trippy tv, I've got one that iirc is about 9" or so that might look really familiar to you |
| 21:18.35 | beandog | Jayce^, whats that |
| 21:18.42 | beandog | Jayce^, lol |
| 21:18.47 | beandog | memories ... |
| 21:18.55 | Jayce^ | beandog, remember that little one from college :) |
| 21:19.02 | beandog | you still have that? |
| 21:19.16 | Jayce^ | shoved in a corner in my basement.. |
| 21:19.23 | beandog | that was a great tv |
| 21:19.30 | beandog | really? Ill come pick it up :) |
| 21:19.31 | Jayce^ | last time I tried it it worked, had it hooked up to my atari 2600 |
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| 21:19.47 | Jayce^ | keep saying I'm taking the whole setup to work for my cube |
| 21:19.47 | mindjuju | atari 2600 -- i'm jealous |
| 21:19.59 | Jayce^ | still works |
| 21:20.09 | dataw0lf | atari 2600s are rocks |
| 21:20.26 | Jayce^ | Adventure |
| 21:21.01 | mindjuju | don't know if i ever played adventure |
| 21:21.06 | mindjuju | i remember pitfall |
| 21:21.20 | dataw0lf | pitfall++ |
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| 21:21.57 | Jayce^ | Demon Attack++ |
| 21:22.08 | Jayce^ | first game I ever saw "beat"... |
| 21:23.04 | Jayce^ | parents were out one night, so my sister and I watched my brother play the repeating loop until it ended... and that's all it did.. no credits, nothing, just stopped giving new levels |
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| 21:23.32 | mindjuju | curious |
| 21:23.46 | mindjuju | first game i ever finished was Bionic Command on NES |
| 21:24.20 | beandog | I never solved Bard's Tale |
| 21:24.20 | Jayce^ | yeah, after the 2600 we never had another "game" system. |
| 21:24.22 | beandog | I'm still bitter. |
| 21:25.18 | mindjuju | that looks cool, but never played it |
| 21:26.11 | beandog | Bard's Tale? Its insanely hard. |
| 21:26.17 | beandog | They dont make games like they used to, thats for sure. |
| 21:27.21 | mindjuju | yeah, remember tying to get the babel fish in your ear in the text based Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy with the upper room cleaning robot and the lower room cleaning robot catching it all the time? |
| 21:27.23 | mindjuju | talk about tuff |
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| 21:34.48 | sontek | you guys are so old |
| 21:35.31 | mindjuju | old? |
| 21:35.46 | RyanE | sontek: can't argue with you there. |
| 21:36.09 | sontek | My first game console was the Super NES! |
| 21:36.37 | mindjuju | you missed a lot of good games |
| 21:36.41 | levi | sontek: You're a baby. :P |
| 21:37.03 | sontek | I'm a man! My mommy says so! |
| 21:38.59 | levi | My first video games were Zaxxon and Silent Service for the Apple II, though I'd played Atari 2600s at neighbors' houses. |
| 21:39.16 | RyanE | My first game console was an orange one that only played pong. |
| 21:39.35 | mindjuju | levi - did you ever play Conan for the Apple II ? |
| 21:39.56 | levi | Yeah! That was awesome. :) |
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| 21:43.20 | maquis | i've never had a game console |
| 21:43.30 | maquis | i had a game gear for a little bit, but that's a little portable thing |
| 21:43.35 | maquis | and i never got any good games |
| 21:43.56 | maquis | mmm... mushroom |
| 21:44.18 | Supaplex | sowwy, your princess is in anodder castwle |
| 21:44.31 | Supaplex | ~lolcats |
| 21:45.06 | levi | maquis: Well, a game gear is a game console, it's just a very small one. |
| 21:45.33 | mindjuju | yeah, i think it was based on Sega wasn't it? |
| 21:45.52 | levi | Yup. |
| 21:51.33 | Supaplex | ~lolcats is http://icanhascheezburger.com/?random |
| 21:51.34 | ibot | okay, Supaplex |
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| 22:00.04 | dataw0lf | I remember the game gear |
| 22:00.09 | dataw0lf | it was shocking at the time |
| 22:00.16 | dataw0lf | "OMG... COLOR!" |
| 22:00.54 | Jayce^ | mindjuju, conan was great |
| 22:01.32 | mindjuju | yeah, was good times. doesn't seem like i ever got super far, but i sure loved it |
| 22:03.14 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, just baiting jellis ? |
| 22:05.12 | dataw0lf | Nah, I just don't like him. |
| 22:07.07 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, interested in a new paintball gun? :) |
| 22:07.15 | Jayce^ | looking to sell the ego |
| 22:07.35 | dataw0lf | hmmm, how much? |
| 22:07.41 | Jayce^ | $700 |
| 22:07.57 | Jayce^ | price of a new etek, but a better gun by far, and limited edition color |
| 22:08.13 | dataw0lf | hmmmm. I may, let me check with gf after work. |
| 22:08.33 | Jayce^ | http://halls.lug-nut.com/jayce/2007/07/extoling-my-ego.html has a picture |
| 22:08.35 | brac | [Extoling my Ego - Jayce^] |
| 22:08.38 | Jayce^ | I've got the black kit on it now |
| 22:08.59 | Jayce^ | looks amazing |
| 22:09.32 | dataw0lf | man that's a slick looking marker |
| 22:09.46 | Jayce^ | it is, and is extremely lightweight |
| 22:10.04 | Jayce^ | quiet, fast, efficient |
| 22:10.15 | Jayce^ | very thin too.. |
| 22:10.29 | dataw0lf | looks extremely thin |
| 22:10.48 | dataw0lf | you had the Apex on that? |
| 22:10.50 | Jayce^ | plenty of videos on youtube, and reviews online if you need more info |
| 22:10.56 | Jayce^ | yeah, you can get a cocker threaded apex |
| 22:11.00 | Jayce^ | really trippy |
| 22:11.05 | dataw0lf | Nice. |
| 22:11.11 | Jayce^ | one of our team members will be doing it next year |
| 22:11.17 | dataw0lf | Must.. convince.. gf. |
| 22:11.26 | Jayce^ | midweight supporting fire guy |
| 22:11.59 | dataw0lf | this might work out well, actually, my gf wanted a marker besides my throwaway I was letting her use, so I could just let her have my A-5 for most matches. |
| 22:12.06 | dataw0lf | I'll get back to ya. |
| 22:12.06 | Jayce^ | oh yeah.. |
| 22:12.11 | Jayce^ | did that with my wife.. she's got the a5 now |
| 22:12.14 | Jayce^ | cool |
| 22:12.16 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 22:12.45 | dataw0lf | what're you getting as a replacement for the Ego? |
| 22:13.04 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 22:13.06 | Jayce^ | the only thing better of course.. |
| 22:13.09 | Jayce^ | an 08 ego |
| 22:13.13 | dataw0lf | haha, nice. |
| 22:13.25 | dataw0lf | no kidding, I bet. |
| 22:13.32 | Jayce^ | good enough to get special offers, but not enough for *free* yet.. |
| 22:13.50 | Jayce^ | so old ego sold becomes most of new ego |
| 22:14.24 | Jayce^ | there isnt' much better than the ego out now, some people like the mark II's and such, but they are the same class.. |
| 22:14.44 | dataw0lf | is your whole team packing Egos? |
| 22:14.47 | Jayce^ | the computer system on the ego is really nice, great customization |
| 22:14.50 | Heartsbane | Jayce^: I used to play a lot... whatever happened to Dale Price, he still out there |
| 22:15.19 | Jayce^ | mostly.. a few a5's (like on the double-trouble), and a few other tyeps.. |
| 22:15.26 | Jayce^ | neybar, what's your gun's name again? |
| 22:15.38 | neybar | Dangerous Power Fusion |
| 22:15.42 | Jayce^ | Heartsbane, still out there, we played him and the turtles at the regional SPPL championships |
| 22:15.51 | Jayce^ | yeah, several fusions |
| 22:16.04 | Heartsbane | Jayce^: still with the Turtle heh.. |
| 22:16.18 | Jayce^ | Heartsbane, it's his team :) |
| 22:16.27 | dataw0lf | I've played with a Fusion, they're pretty light too. |
| 22:16.50 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, yeah, good guns, the 08's are a lot nicer, but our deal isn't quite as rocking next year (at least yet) |
| 22:17.01 | Jayce^ | neybar got a sweet deal on his |
| 22:17.08 | Heartsbane | Jayce^: I know its been his team forever I met him first around 95 |
| 22:17.13 | neybar | great gun for the price. I hear that the eclipse etek is pretty good too |
| 22:17.34 | Heartsbane | nice to hear he is still playing |
| 22:17.36 | Jayce^ | yeah, the etek is good, basically based off the older style (06) ego. |
| 22:17.52 | dataw0lf | the A-5 really makes you start considering weight as a factor ;-) |
| 22:17.56 | Jayce^ | and of course old mheath *could* have had oen for free if he'd stuck around. |
| 22:17.58 | Jayce^ | oh yeah |
| 22:18.41 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, the ego basically weighs about as much as the a5's grip, and barrel.. |
| 22:18.57 | dataw0lf | Hehe, that's ridiculous. |
| 22:19.20 | dataw0lf | I'd probably smash my forehead bringing it up to the ready the first couple matches |
| 22:19.26 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 22:19.43 | Jayce^ | one guy on our team has been talking about making a double-trouble version of the ego's... now that would be fun |
| 22:20.10 | Jayce^ | a DT that fires twice as fast, less than half the noise.. and sips on air |
| 22:20.20 | Jayce^ | and doesn't require a crane |
| 22:20.33 | dataw0lf | hehehe |
| 22:20.56 | Jayce^ | it's always funny seeing people reactions when our DT walks onto the field.. |
| 22:21.08 | Jayce^ | usually has 3 cases of paint *on him* when walking out |
| 22:21.27 | Jayce^ | 1200 in his custom hopper, 2k in "pods" |
| 22:21.39 | Jayce^ | but not normal pods.. uses nalgene bottles |
| 22:23.53 | Jayce^ | let me know what you think :) |
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