| 00:25.16 | herlo | http://arts.utah.gov/quarter/index.html - Utah Quarter released |
| 00:37.16 | Supaplex | sure, I find the instructions, only to misplace my tools. blah, mutionious possessions! |
| 00:43.00 | *** join/#utah Sargun (n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun) |
| 00:44.40 | Sargun | Its a sargun! |
| 00:44.43 | Sargun | Everybody, Run! |
| 00:44.45 | Sargun | GO GO GO! |
| 00:44.46 | Sargun | HIDE! |
| 00:45.08 | Sargun | Find a hole. |
| 00:45.11 | Sargun | Get in it. |
| 00:45.17 | Sargun | ~rlart |
| 00:45.18 | ibot | tries to shut unum up |
| 00:45.25 | Sargun | unum, Especially you! |
| 00:50.35 | nick125 | wtf. |
| 00:51.07 | nick125 | I can access 192.168.1.2, but not 192.168.1.226 in my internal network for devices that don't need external IPs or NAT. |
| 00:51.22 | Sargun | God. |
| 00:51.37 | Sargun | nick125, You wanna use cherry 3.X? |
| 00:51.39 | Sargun | and lighty? |
| 00:51.41 | nick125 | sure |
| 00:52.11 | Sargun | I'll put the custom lighty config into the package. |
| 00:54.38 | *** join/#utah xbmodder_ (n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun) |
| 00:57.04 | xbmodder_ | nick125, I think we should use yield: |
| 00:58.01 | *** join/#utah xbmodder__ (n=Sargun@h4606c09d.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 00:58.48 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 00:58.48 | ibot | pong |
| 01:00.28 | nick125 | okay....big wtf |
| 01:00.31 | Sargun | ? |
| 01:00.32 | Sargun | what? |
| 01:00.45 | nick125 | when I plug my bridge into my switch, all the traffic on my network dies |
| 01:01.12 | Sargun | a loop? |
| 01:01.14 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 01:01.19 | Sargun | its a bridge |
| 01:01.20 | nick125 | when I disconnect it, it works fine. |
| 01:01.24 | Sargun | didn't you learn bridges are bad? |
| 01:01.39 | nick125 | Sargun: well, when I get ethernet to my room, all will be good. |
| 01:01.51 | nick125 | And you brought up a good point. It could be a loop |
| 01:02.46 | Sargun | I know. |
| 01:02.47 | Sargun | :-) |
| 01:03.26 | nick125 | crap, I don't have any ethernet cables around that aren't corroded. |
| 01:03.51 | Sargun | heh |
| 01:03.59 | Sargun | use foil. |
| 01:04.13 | Sargun | cut open the ethernet cable |
| 01:04.17 | Sargun | and put foil |
| 01:04.28 | Sargun | across from your switch to your system |
| 01:04.33 | nick125 | BTW, if there are any VZW customers in the channel, remember to call in and opt-out of CPNI. |
| 01:04.35 | Sargun | 8 foil wires. |
| 01:04.42 | Sargun | CPNI? |
| 01:04.45 | unum | now it would make sense if you tried to shut me up in uphu |
| 01:04.50 | unum | but I hardly say anything in here |
| 01:04.55 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@216.31.27.110) |
| 01:04.56 | brac | and I move them all to themselves? |
| 01:04.58 | Sargun | unum, I thought you were dead. |
| 01:05.05 | unum | aah I see |
| 01:05.09 | unum | no just faking it |
| 01:05.11 | unum | :) |
| 01:05.14 | Sargun | and -rlart is nifty. |
| 01:05.22 | nick125 | Sargun: Customer Proprietary Network Information, where Verizon shares your call data with Vodafone and their partners. |
| 01:06.00 | Sargun | nick125, You should become a terrorist and kill robots. |
| 01:06.15 | Sargun | Also, verizon execs |
| 01:07.09 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@216.31.27.110) |
| 01:07.10 | brac | Sure, legally. How do you know what a side-chain compressor is> :) |
| 01:07.11 | Sargun | .. |
| 01:07.28 | Sargun | ~onjoin -elg |
| 01:07.28 | ibot | ok, Sargun |
| 01:07.33 | Sargun | stupid bot. |
| 01:12.33 | Sargun | crap |
| 01:12.38 | Sargun | I need a new 9 key |
| 01:20.59 | *** join/#utah xbmodder_ (n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun) |
| 01:22.12 | nick125 | Sargun: me too |
| 01:22.27 | nick125 | seriously, my laptop's 9 key is broken too |
| 01:22.30 | xbmodder_ | I lost () |
| 01:22.32 | xbmodder_ | both those keys |
| 01:22.36 | xbmodder_ | You can't program without that |
| 01:26.01 | xbmodder_ | nick125, Callable? |
| 01:26.33 | xbmodder_ | http://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/show_story.php?id=373 |
| 01:26.34 | brac | [Pleasanton Weekly : Weapon threat puts Amador on temporary lockdown] |
| 01:26.35 | xbmodder_ | -dances- |
| 01:26.38 | xbmodder_ | We're all insane |
| 01:26.41 | xbmodder_ | BRAC IS BACK! |
| 01:26.45 | nick125 | xbmodder_: not at the moment |
| 01:26.46 | xbmodder_ | -dances- |
| 01:26.51 | xbmodder_ | then bye |
| 01:26.53 | xbmodder_ | cya |
| 01:26.55 | xbmodder_ | don't die. |
| 01:26.56 | nick125 | :( |
| 01:26.58 | xbmodder_ | or flhy. |
| 01:27.00 | xbmodder_ | or fly. |
| 01:27.03 | nick125 | lol |
| 01:40.53 | *** join/#utah Heartsbane (n=hearts@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 02:02.17 | *** join/#utah wps (n=wps@208.53.47.251) |
| 02:07.10 | *** join/#utah decriptor (n=sshaw@161.28.252.186) |
| 02:21.07 | *** join/#utah nick125_treo (n=upirc@pdpc/supporter/student/nick125) |
| 02:21.13 | nick125_treo | hello |
| 02:22.45 | decriptor | hello |
| 02:27.53 | Supaplex | hi |
| 02:28.32 | decriptor | Supaplex: sure don't conform to the hellos |
| 02:28.35 | decriptor | :P |
| 02:29.03 | Supaplex | ~lart conformity |
| 02:29.03 | ibot | pours gasoline all over conformity, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 02:29.11 | Supaplex | heck yeah! |
| 02:35.07 | Supaplex | decriptor: hows that for conformity? :) |
| 02:35.27 | decriptor | nice |
| 02:35.56 | decriptor | though I love those non conformists that all look alike :P |
| 02:36.05 | Supaplex | haha |
| 02:42.52 | *** join/#utah girl (n=girl@c-76-27-49-184.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:43.37 | Lakshmi | Supaplex: hey |
| 02:43.42 | Lakshmi | nick125_treo: hey |
| 02:44.59 | *** join/#utah nick125_treo- (n=upirc@m630e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 02:45.51 | Lakshmi | hehe thanks |
| 02:45.56 | Lakshmi | i figured it out too |
| 02:46.00 | Lakshmi | nyways sups? |
| 02:49.04 | *** join/#utah Sargun (n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun) |
| 02:49.11 | Sargun | hey nick125 |
| 02:49.54 | Sargun | OOh. |
| 02:49.59 | Sargun | Prelinking does make stuff faster. |
| 02:50.04 | Sargun | by a lot |
| 02:50.09 | nick125_treo- | lol |
| 02:53.37 | *** join/#utah decriptor (n=sshaw@sshaw.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 02:57.04 | Sargun | stab y'all |
| 02:57.34 | Sargun | Ah, fun stuff. My IS is under attack. |
| 02:57.39 | Sargun | I seem to be addictive to attacks |
| 02:58.30 | nick125_treo- | lol |
| 02:59.40 | Sargun | lol |
| 03:01.00 | Sargun | What's a good whois server |
| 03:01.23 | nick125 | what do you mena? |
| 03:01.25 | nick125 | *mean |
| 03:02.16 | Sargun | I need to run my own WHOIS |
| 03:02.29 | Sargun | Trying to figure out how to do this |
| 03:03.51 | nick125_treo- | none really exist...write your own |
| 03:04.10 | nick125_treo- | I hate sprintlink |
| 03:04.41 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@216.31.27.110) |
| 03:12.49 | nick125 | Why oh why am I getting routed to eurogoogle? |
| 03:13.11 | Sargun | o.O |
| 03:13.18 | Sargun | google breaks |
| 03:13.26 | Supaplex | lose the pounds. |
| 03:13.28 | nick125 | sl-eurogoogle-138422-0.sprintlink.net |
| 03:13.53 | nick125 | I'm gonna call my ISP tomorrow and ask them to quit screwing around with the routes |
| 03:14.04 | nick125 | Because it's really pissing me off. |
| 03:16.26 | Sargun | EUROGOOGLE. |
| 03:16.28 | Sargun | GOLLEY. |
| 03:17.46 | nick125 | boo for random 1800ms latencty |
| 03:18.54 | nick125 | Yeah, I'm getting some random latency spikes for no reason. |
| 03:19.17 | Supaplex | awwwweee archive.org is down. :( connection refused. |
| 03:23.22 | Sargun | The internet partiall depeered last night |
| 03:23.31 | Sargun | GBLX f'd up |
| 03:23.36 | Sargun | uh |
| 03:23.48 | Sargun | duck? |
| 03:23.57 | Sargun | http://www.internetpulse.net/ |
| 03:24.20 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 03:28.28 | nick125 | uh oh. |
| 03:29.08 | nick125 | That's not...good |
| 03:30.43 | nick125 | Good job GBLX on screwing everything up. |
| 03:32.39 | nick125 | Remember the night Cogent and Level3 depeered? |
| 03:33.31 | rsimpkins | I just had a totally crazy idea. |
| 03:33.39 | rsimpkins | I wanna start an iPod party. |
| 03:33.45 | rsimpkins | Or, iPod parties. |
| 03:33.50 | rsimpkins | However you wanna say it. |
| 03:34.13 | nick125 | What would happen at these parties? |
| 03:34.17 | rsimpkins | Bring your iPod, and you swap it with someone elses iPod for 15 minutes. Write down anything new you hear. And then switch. |
| 03:34.41 | nick125 | That's interesting. |
| 03:34.50 | rsimpkins | So you'd get exposed to some music maybe you wouldn't otherwise listen to. |
| 03:35.01 | rsimpkins | And maybe learn something interesting about the person you swapped with. |
| 03:36.42 | rsimpkins | Maybe 15 min is too long. Maybe 10 minutes. |
| 03:36.51 | rsimpkins | Enough so in half an hour you're going to swap with three people. |
| 03:38.56 | rsimpkins | All it would take is some other reason to get together. |
| 03:38.59 | rsimpkins | :) |
| 03:39.24 | rsimpkins | I think my neighbors would think I was insane if I said "Hey, come over to my house and bring your iPod." |
| 03:41.45 | rsimpkins | If I were in college it would be easy. All you have to do in college to have a party is invite some girls over. The boys follow. :) |
| 03:54.03 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@216.31.27.110) |
| 04:06.09 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 04:06.10 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@216.31.27.110) |
| 04:06.56 | *** part/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 04:07.02 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 04:14.14 | *** join/#utah levi (n=levi@levi.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 04:56.29 | Lakshmi | hey all |
| 04:56.35 | Lakshmi | is anyone alive? |
| 04:56.41 | Tene | No. |
| 04:56.45 | Tene | Zombies only. |
| 04:57.39 | Supaplex | even Lakshmi is one |
| 04:58.21 | *** join/#utah bonez44 (n=scott@c-24-10-147-163.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:59.20 | bonez44 | my wife is in CA..I am in utah...she claims she receives incoming email, but can't send out...I email to her and it does NOT bounce back to me....she is on a laptop running win xp... wirelessly connected... |
| 04:59.32 | bonez44 | I am trying to help her figure out why she can't send out |
| 04:59.42 | Tene | bonez44: what sort of network is she on? |
| 04:59.49 | Tene | what sort of internet connection? |
| 05:00.44 | bonez44 | cable, at home here...and I believe cable where she is too |
| 05:01.20 | Tene | some ISPs block outgoing mail that doesn't go through their mail servers. |
| 05:02.46 | Supaplex | is the antivirus software expired? |
| 05:02.57 | Supaplex | any symtomatic error messages? |
| 05:03.23 | bonez44 | Tene: not sure..how can I get her to find out.... |
| 05:03.41 | Tene | bonez44: not sure. |
| 05:03.57 | Tene | bonez44: however, more description of what happens when she tries to send mail would help. |
| 05:03.58 | *** join/#utah admini (n=admini@72.8.125.9) |
| 05:04.12 | Supaplex | bonez44: http://www.surfthe.us/reference/software/email/oe/0x800CCC0D.shtml |
| 05:06.22 | bonez44 | Tene: what I know is that i can email to her..and she RECEIVES it..but when she hits reply and tries to send back to me..it doesn't leave her outbox...despite her hitting "Send and Receive"...it doesn't leave..... |
| 05:06.24 | Tene | that probably means that it can't talk to the mail server. |
| 05:06.40 | Tene | Either the mail server she's sending to won't accept connections from there or the ISP is blocking it. |
| 05:06.44 | Tene | Or something else. |
| 05:07.09 | bonez44 | well, she doesn't know what service she has there....nor do I....otherwise I could configure the outgoing server...to it.. |
| 05:09.02 | bonez44 | here's the thing..I know she is connected..she has a small 'logmein.com' client running, and normally I could bring up her screen from my machine here..... |
| 05:37.05 | Sargun | bonez44, tell her to like CA? |
| 05:37.23 | Sargun | er |
| 05:37.24 | Sargun | leave |
| 05:37.42 | Sargun | bonez44, what ISP does she hapve? |
| 05:38.36 | Sargun | rsimpkins, and who pays to royalties? |
| 05:44.37 | Sargun | hhahaha |
| 05:44.56 | nick125 | I guess they didn't want to make the same mistake with the 700p. |
| 05:45.29 | Sargun | what's bad with 700p? |
| 05:45.32 | fozzmoo | The Centro is sure a cute Palm device. |
| 05:45.38 | fozzmoo | I want to handle one. |
| 05:45.55 | Lakshmi | hi fozzmoo |
| 05:45.59 | fozzmoo | hi |
| 05:46.11 | nick125 | Sargun: There were some major issues with it when it first launched |
| 05:46.23 | nick125 | Mainly the "Error 3000" |
| 05:46.24 | Sargun | nick125, callable? |
| 05:46.40 | nick125 | not really, I'm just about to head to bed..I can't stay up until 2am like I did last night |
| 05:46.50 | fozzmoo | HOLY COW! It's late. |
| 05:47.01 | fozzmoo | I felt like I had corn starch in my eyes all day today. |
| 05:47.06 | fozzmoo | You'd think I'd get some sleep! |
| 05:48.16 | Sargun | uh |
| 05:48.19 | Sargun | why not? |
| 05:48.32 | Sargun | man eyes |
| 05:48.34 | nick125 | Because I realized that 5 hours of sleep is bad. |
| 05:48.49 | Sargun | /orn [Ss]tarch |
| 05:48.52 | Sargun | nick125, I only got 4 |
| 05:50.26 | fozzmoo | nick125: Don't you wish you could be uber-cool like Sargun too? I sure do. ;-) |
| 05:50.56 | Sargun | and I'm alive! |
| 05:51.01 | Sargun | I got caught up |
| 05:51.19 | fozzmoo | I want to know when I can buy those fancy stims military pilots take to stay awake and coherent for many hours. |
| 05:51.42 | Sargun | They'll be implemented in datacenters |
| 05:51.51 | Sargun | they'll be a sugar glass cage |
| 05:51.57 | Sargun | which a NOC Admin will break |
| 05:52.03 | Sargun | with his glass knife. |
| 05:57.44 | Tene | http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/34685 |
| 05:57.59 | Supaplex | bonez44: speaking of ISP's, if she needs another local ISP might I suggest surfthe.us? :) btw, any progress on that email issue? |
| 06:00.40 | Sargun | Supaplex, I think bonez died |
| 06:09.05 | *** join/#utah bmidgley (n=bmidgley@176.sub-70-193-16.myvzw.com) |
| 06:19.22 | Sargun | I just got another keyboard. |
| 06:19.47 | Sargun | I was afraid I was going to have exceeded the 10 year downtime limit. |
| 06:20.00 | Sargun | bmidgley, myvzw? |
| 06:20.11 | RyanE | bmidgley: howdy |
| 06:20.33 | bmidgley | hey |
| 06:21.18 | bmidgley | Sargun ? |
| 06:21.41 | Sargun | What's up? |
| 06:22.19 | Sargun | you are near Sacramento? |
| 06:23.11 | bmidgley | st george, using verizon |
| 06:23.26 | RyanE | bmidgley: I was there this morning. |
| 06:23.37 | RyanE | st. george, not verizon. :) |
| 06:24.24 | bmidgley | actually in snow canyon |
| 06:24.43 | RyanE | bmidgley: what's going on in Snow Canyon at this time of night? Senior Games? :) |
| 06:26.41 | bmidgley | at the campground... everybody else is snoozing |
| 06:26.55 | bmidgley | a client was having an outage so i was trying to get it sorted |
| 06:27.19 | Sargun | sounds cool. |
| 06:27.22 | Sargun | oh |
| 06:27.24 | Sargun | what issue |
| 06:27.29 | Sargun | where is fo |
| 06:27.31 | Sargun | where is fozz |
| 06:50.44 | *** join/#utah admini (n=admini@72.8.125.9) |
| 07:39.11 | Sargun | I wonder if I can crash ibot. |
| 07:39.31 | Sargun | hello |
| 07:39.35 | Sargun | s/ll/a/ |
| 07:41.36 | Sargun | joiajdawciackwakd |
| 07:41.41 | Sargun | s/(.*)(\1)+/a/ |
| 07:41.46 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 07:41.47 | ibot | pong |
| 07:41.50 | Sargun | dangit. |
| 07:42.17 | Sargun | hm |
| 07:42.29 | Sargun | he can lart, he can ~ping |
| 07:42.32 | Sargun | what else can he do? |
| 07:42.45 | Sargun | math? |
| 07:42.49 | Sargun | ~2*2*2* |
| 07:42.50 | Sargun | ~2*2*2*2 |
| 07:42.51 | ibot | 16 |
| 07:42.56 | Sargun | ~2*2*2*2*21321 |
| 07:42.56 | ibot | 341136 |
| 07:43.02 | Sargun | ~2*2*2*2*21321*3213141 |
| 07:43.02 | ibot | 1096118068176 |
| 07:43.07 | Sargun | ~2*2*2*2*21321*3213141A |
| 07:43.16 | Sargun | ~2*2*2*2*21321*3213141e2 |
| 07:43.20 | Sargun | ~2*2*2*2*21321*3213141213 |
| 07:43.21 | ibot | 1096118140837968 |
| 07:43.25 | Sargun | ~2*2*2*2*21321**3213141213 |
| 07:43.25 | ibot | inf |
| 07:43.31 | Sargun | dang. |
| 07:43.42 | Lakshmi | sargun |
| 07:44.27 | Supaplex | ~0/0 |
| 07:44.27 | ibot | ACTION has quit (Overflow Error) |
| 07:44.39 | Sargun | heh |
| 07:45.00 | Sargun | I wonder if there is any char which IRC doesn't treat as \n but ibot will |
| 07:45.14 | Supaplex | ~ |
| 07:45.35 | Supaplex | something unicodeish? |
| 07:45.45 | Sargun | ~eval hi |
| 07:45.50 | Sargun | ~eval x**2 |
| 07:45.55 | Sargun | ~help eval |
| 07:46.03 | Sargun | ~eval help |
| 07:46.17 | Sargun | ~say ChanServ |
| 07:46.18 | ibot | ChanServ |
| 07:46.25 | Sargun | ~pm Sargun hi |
| 07:46.29 | Sargun | ~message Sargun hi |
| 07:46.32 | Sargun | ... |
| 07:46.47 | Sargun | I wonder if there is a language filter on this channel |
| 07:46.54 | Sargun | Supaplex, would you mind swearing for me? |
| 07:46.58 | Sargun | or on freenode |
| 07:47.16 | Supaplex | hell no! |
| 07:48.14 | Supaplex | ~. |
| 07:48.15 | ibot | . |
| 09:48.27 | *** join/#utah goozbach (n=goozbach@brooks.netradius.com) |
| 10:01.23 | *** join/#utah admini (n=admini@72.8.125.9) |
| 10:08.11 | Sargun | goozbach, ! |
| 12:34.31 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@216.31.27.110) |
| 12:37.51 | elg | -chat |
| 12:37.54 | brac | Does that count? |
| 12:38.03 | elg | ~onjoin elg -chat |
| 12:38.03 | ibot | ok, elg |
| 12:38.10 | elg | stupid humans |
| 13:31.56 | *** join/#utah moriancumer (n=jared@c-67-177-42-19.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 13:39.49 | sontek | -chat |
| 13:39.51 | brac | call the voicemail context |
| 13:39.54 | sontek | :O |
| 13:41.22 | herlo | ~2^128 |
| 13:41.22 | ibot | 130 |
| 13:41.28 | herlo | ibot: what? |
| 13:41.52 | herlo | ibot: you're full of crap! |
| 13:43.00 | sontek | ~2+128 |
| 13:43.01 | ibot | 130 |
| 13:43.09 | sontek | Hes doing quite well! |
| 13:49.16 | herlo | sontek: in some cases |
| 13:49.50 | herlo | ~whallop sontek |
| 13:49.51 | ibot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop sontek until sontek whimpers like a little girl! |
| 14:00.13 | *** join/#utah redbeard2 (n=route@66.60.228.140) |
| 14:03.56 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@66.7.122.158) |
| 14:04.26 | goozbach | ibot: gender? |
| 14:04.26 | ibot | I'm male |
| 14:04.43 | goozbach | ibot: gender? |
| 14:04.43 | ibot | I'm sexless |
| 14:04.56 | goozbach | ibot: gender? |
| 14:04.56 | ibot | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 14:05.07 | goozbach | ibot: gender? |
| 14:05.07 | ibot | I'm male |
| 14:05.21 | goozbach | ibot: literal gender |
| 14:05.22 | ibot | "gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
| 14:06.41 | fozzmoo | Like ibot knows something. |
| 14:07.03 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@216.31.27.110) |
| 14:07.04 | brac | !echo hi |
| 14:07.05 | UtahBot | brac: Error: "echo" is not a valid command. |
| 14:07.06 | brac | okies! |
| 14:09.20 | goozbach | brac: Error: "echo" |
| 14:11.46 | *** join/#utah thaddeusq (n=thaddeus@216.49.181.128) |
| 14:20.59 | *** join/#utah jsmith (n=jsmith@h460565e0.area3.spcsdns.net) |
| 14:22.46 | *** join/#utah utahcon (n=barreta@bromine.sosstaffing.com) |
| 14:25.10 | goozbach | jsmith: you should pick up the new issue of 2600 magizine, it's got a good article on VOIP security in it |
| 14:25.37 | redbeard2 | emcnabb dated ibot? |
| 14:27.45 | jsmith | goozbach: Anything I don't already know? Audio injection, audio monitoring, RTP redirection |
| 14:28.57 | tensai | redbeard2: I'm trying to find proof in my logs. here's what I've got so far: 10:21 < emcnabb> I love you ibot! |
| 14:29.29 | goozbach | jsmith: probally not |
| 14:29.40 | goozbach | but it'd be good for you to read it I think. |
| 14:29.43 | goozbach | it's pretty short |
| 14:29.55 | goozbach | but it's a good overview you could probally suggest to others |
| 14:30.19 | tensai | 09:17 < ibot> is emcnabb: I miss you. The kids miss you. Why won't you come back to me? *sniff* |
| 14:30.25 | jsmith | Cool... I'll have to check it out |
| 14:35.19 | fozzmoo | jsmith: when's the next bootcamp in utah? :) |
| 14:36.59 | jsmith | fozzmoo: I doubt there will be one for a whiler |
| 14:37.03 | jsmith | s/whiler/while/ |
| 14:37.13 | fozzmoo | I kinda suspected that. |
| 14:37.40 | *** join/#utah tiwula (n=lane@208.64.90.18.static.utahbroadband.com) |
| 14:37.42 | jsmith | We're consolidating a lot of our classes, now that we have a brand new training facility in the Digium offices |
| 14:37.44 | fozzmoo | My boss warmed up to the idea of sending a couple people to a bootcamp the middle of last week. |
| 14:37.52 | jsmith | Ah, cool. |
| 14:39.16 | *** join/#utah macnewbol1 (n=mac@cg.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 14:44.10 | goozbach | fozzmoo: you could contract neverblock to come do an installation :D |
| 14:44.43 | goozbach | note to self: rm -rf /lib should only be done if you are already in the correct chroot |
| 14:44.53 | fozzmoo | goozbach: If you want to move back to Utah... you just let me know and I'll set you up with an interview. |
| 14:56.16 | goozbach | chicago, you must die! |
| 14:56.44 | fozzmoo | Yeah. I didn't care for that movie either. |
| 14:56.53 | utahcon | too much singing |
| 14:57.13 | fozzmoo | Too much... Renee Zellwegger's flatchestedness. |
| 14:57.35 | utahcon | not enough Catherine *drools |
| 14:57.56 | goozbach | fozzmoo, utahcon not THAT Chicago |
| 14:58.08 | goozbach | Chicago the musical group |
| 14:58.20 | fozzmoo | Oh. yeah. |
| 14:58.22 | utahcon | oh... |
| 14:58.22 | findlay-w | the Chicago Symphony? |
| 14:58.23 | fozzmoo | They're not dead yet? |
| 14:58.49 | utahcon | 25 or 6 to 4 |
| 14:59.20 | goozbach | I have had 25 or 6 to 4 stuck in my head for .... going on 3 weeks now |
| 14:59.54 | *** join/#utah Kemotaha (n=Kemotaha@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 14:59.59 | *** join/#utah brasto (n=brasto@out.lnxi.com) |
| 15:00.05 | Jayce^ | about time Kemotaha ... |
| 15:02.22 | fozzmoo | All hail Kemotaha! |
| 15:04.15 | Kemotaha | what are you talking about Jayce^ |
| 15:04.31 | Kemotaha | fozz, I am not that worthy .....yry |
| 15:04.38 | Kemotaha | s/yry/yet/ |
| 15:05.12 | findlay-w | I like yry better |
| 15:05.31 | brasto | ~yry |
| 15:05.49 | findlay-w | -chat about yry |
| 15:05.50 | brac | yry had |
| 15:05.50 | brasto | ibot yry is how Kemotaha spells yet |
| 15:05.51 | ibot | brasto: okay |
| 15:05.55 | brasto | ~yry |
| 15:05.56 | ibot | hmm... yry is how Kemotaha spells yet |
| 15:07.53 | *** join/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@class1-nat.gurulabs.com) |
| 15:09.02 | findlay-w | -chat about sjansen |
| 15:09.02 | brac | sjansen was trying to cause any major harm ;-) |
| 15:09.35 | sjansen | ~harm findlay-w |
| 15:10.04 | findlay-w | -chat about major harm |
| 15:10.04 | brac | major harm ;-) |
| 15:10.12 | goozbach | ham and what kind of mustard? |
| 15:10.12 | findlay-w | -chat about minor harm |
| 15:10.13 | brac | minor harm |
| 15:10.19 | goozbach | regualr olde yelloy? |
| 15:10.29 | goozbach | or good deli mustard |
| 15:10.43 | utahcon | goozbach: hope this makes you feel better. I once worked at CircuitCity and we played a DVD of Eagles in the highdef room about 8 times a shift and the first and last song every hour was Hotel California... I will never listent to it again as long as I live cause it is already permanently burned in my ear and brain |
| 15:11.03 | findlay-w | ouch |
| 15:11.34 | findlay-w | I would have brought in some Brahms or something and stealthily blasted it out over every speaker in the store |
| 15:12.56 | sjansen | spicy brown mustard |
| 15:13.13 | Kemotaha | so if I type yry from now on will it correct me? |
| 15:13.24 | Kemotaha | ~yry |
| 15:13.24 | ibot | it has been said that yry is how Kemotaha spells yet |
| 15:13.35 | Kemotaha | -chat yry |
| 15:13.36 | brac | yry is how life goes |
| 15:14.25 | sjansen | ~mustard goozbach |
| 15:14.31 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (n=timr@216.49.181.128) |
| 15:14.31 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 15:15.44 | *** join/#utah klys (n=admini@72.8.125.9) |
| 15:16.21 | klys | ~seen shadowwire |
| 15:16.24 | ibot | shadowwire <n=shadowwi@mail.swplumb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 3d 20h 56m 9s ago, saying: '~purge klys'. |
| 15:16.44 | sjansen | heh |
| 15:18.27 | findlay-w | _purge klys |
| 15:18.29 | findlay-w | aw |
| 15:18.37 | findlay-w | ~purge sjansen |
| 15:19.07 | sjansen | ~taunt findlay-w |
| 15:19.07 | ibot | ACTION folds a paper football and flicks it at findlay-w |
| 15:19.30 | findlay-w | ~annoy sjansen |
| 15:19.30 | ibot | ACTION dances around sjansen, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy sjansen to the maximum amount |
| 15:20.02 | *** join/#utah fungus (n=olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com) |
| 15:22.50 | klys | sjansen: wzup this morning |
| 15:23.05 | findlay-w | heh |
| 15:24.55 | *** join/#utah wps (n=wps@64.0.192.184) |
| 15:25.57 | *** join/#utah synic (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 15:26.34 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@dhcp02.cs.nmsu.edu) |
| 15:26.35 | brac | you're welcome to the masses, and free calls to a better option, though |
| 15:30.39 | jsmith | free calls, alright! |
| 15:31.22 | goozbach | shh! don't tell him |
| 15:35.07 | jsmith | Sure... I've been offering free calls for years now |
| 15:37.02 | *** join/#utah admini (n=admini@72.8.125.9) |
| 15:41.22 | *** join/#utah klys (n=admini@72.8.125.9) |
| 15:41.54 | klys | sjansen: wzup this morning |
| 15:52.44 | sjansen | A drop tile ceiling and fluorescent lighting. |
| 15:54.32 | utahcon | many of you planning on going to the UtahCodeCamp? |
| 15:54.39 | utahcon | Nov 3rd? |
| 15:55.43 | herlo | utahcon: I want to go. |
| 15:55.53 | herlo | utahcon: who's coming? |
| 15:57.39 | utahcon | I know I am... |
| 16:09.26 | fozzmoo | "Akita to Okinawa: Non-stop fright" -- Japan Airlines advertisement |
| 16:10.16 | utahcon | oh no |
| 16:11.49 | sontek | I'm going =) |
| 16:13.57 | findlay-w | going where? |
| 16:14.09 | findlay-w | campy code? |
| 16:15.09 | sontek | yeap! |
| 16:15.48 | sontek | It always mainly just windows stuff though, so people need to sign up to do some talks |
| 16:15.50 | findlay-w | fozzmoo: well, it is October after all |
| 16:16.03 | sontek | for spring I did one on mono and and Justin Long did one on Ruby |
| 16:16.09 | sontek | but that was all the open source there was |
| 16:16.12 | findlay-w | Justin Long?! |
| 16:16.21 | findlay-w | is he from West Jordan? |
| 16:16.33 | sontek | Not sure where he lives, he works for 1-800 contacts |
| 16:16.49 | findlay-w | how old is he? |
| 16:17.11 | utahcon | 1-800 |
| 16:17.17 | findlay-w | -799? |
| 16:17.17 | brac | *shrug* |
| 16:18.07 | findlay-w | ~age utahcon |
| 16:18.12 | utahcon | 26 |
| 16:18.28 | findlay-w | you can't be 26, *I'm* 26 |
| 16:18.36 | sontek | http://utahdnug.org/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2109 |
| 16:18.38 | sontek | thats Justin |
| 16:18.49 | utahcon | have it |
| 16:18.52 | utahcon | I am almost done with it |
| 16:19.32 | findlay-w | sontek: he's from the same neighborhood as me |
| 16:20.09 | utahcon | *shocked! |
| 16:20.09 | findlay-w | yay, somebody I knew a long time ago is now famous |
| 16:20.12 | sontek | findlay-w: w00t, you should come to code camp then =) |
| 16:20.30 | sontek | lol, I wouldn't say hes famous, buts hes a really good programmer =) |
| 16:26.21 | utahcon | in some circles that is fame |
| 16:27.06 | Jayce^ | c'mon tensai, don't bottle up your feelings.. tell us how you really feel about NAT |
| 16:27.47 | findlay-w | most circles are described as the circumference is equal to pi times the radius |
| 16:28.13 | findlay-w | or parametrically as the square of the radius equals the square of the first dimension plus the square of the second |
| 16:28.28 | utahcon | CTRL-C |
| 16:28.32 | utahcon | CTRL-V |
| 16:28.32 | utahcon | done |
| 16:28.46 | tensai | Jayce^: yeah, I was trying to be polite |
| 16:29.59 | elg | anyone want to play math with me? I'm trying to figure out how to plot a trend with missing data points |
| 16:30.10 | *** join/#utah beandog_ (n=steve@69.27.17.186) |
| 16:30.23 | findlay-w | log likelihood |
| 16:30.27 | Jayce^ | personally, I think redbeard2's wife is pretty fun, not sure why you say she's "is an evil scourge upon our Internet and I long for the day it is eradicated." |
| 16:30.56 | Jayce^ | elg, well, if you play statistics, you can just make up numbers to fit the graph you want |
| 16:31.17 | findlay-w | chi squared |
| 16:31.29 | tensai | Jayce^: every time I complain about NAT, he berates me for ripping on Nat. check the spelling!!! |
| 16:31.37 | elg | well, it's for weight tracking. weight goes up and down by a few pounds, basically noise |
| 16:31.46 | elg | I think it'd be fun to plot the trend |
| 16:32.02 | elg | but I don't know what to do about missing data, other than not forgetting and that's not likely to happen |
| 16:34.10 | findlay-w | just fabricate some data |
| 16:34.54 | RyanE | elg: ericksonfamily.com/weightgame |
| 16:35.20 | RyanE | notice the week-long Disney trip this past week on my chart... (clickon Ryan) |
| 16:36.03 | sjansen | elg: ~google moving average |
| 16:36.12 | sjansen | For example, http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/dochelp/StatTutorial/Running/ |
| 16:36.14 | brac | [Running and Weighted Averages] |
| 16:36.16 | RyanE | mine is a 10-day moving average |
| 16:36.41 | sjansen | Or http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/e4/signalnoise.html |
| 16:36.48 | brac | [Signal and Noise] |
| 16:36.52 | RyanE | that's what my graphs are based on |
| 16:37.58 | elg | yeah, that's what I'm looking at too |
| 16:38.03 | elg | but he doesn't really say what to do with missing data |
| 16:38.21 | elg | if you just ignore missing data, then you are mathematically assuming that the trend goes horizontal during those missing days |
| 16:38.54 | RyanE | elg: he has a palm version of the graphing software, and that's what it does. |
| 16:39.12 | RyanE | trend line goes horiz when you don't enter data |
| 16:39.26 | elg | interesting. but incorrect |
| 16:39.36 | elg | imho |
| 16:39.41 | RyanE | using it for weight control, I think it makes perfect sense |
| 16:39.43 | elg | I figured it out with the whizzes on #math |
| 16:39.59 | elg | RyanE: why? |
| 16:40.25 | elg | look at the blue one on your graph |
| 16:40.27 | elg | or even better, the top green one |
| 16:40.49 | RyanE | because if you're not entering weights, you can't assume *anything* about what the trend is, and it goads me to pull it back down |
| 16:40.53 | elg | someone went a long time without entering data, and if they really did lose 5 pounds in the interim why does it make sense for the trend to still be way up at 200lbs? |
| 16:41.13 | *** join/#utah jsmith (n=jsmith@h460565e0.area3.spcsdns.net) |
| 16:41.17 | elg | of course you can assume something. you can assume that it will continue as it was. that's what trends are |
| 16:41.18 | RyanE | yes, because it's weighted, so the current day weighs more than previous, so it should start pulling it down quickly |
| 16:41.36 | elg | but not quick enough. |
| 16:41.38 | RyanE | if you put them in regularly, it works well. |
| 16:41.48 | RyanE | well, if you want it to equal the daily weight, then you don't want an average |
| 16:41.53 | elg | sure. but I'm saying if you don't then it doesn't |
| 16:41.55 | RyanE | just plot actuals |
| 16:42.00 | elg | i didn't say actual weight |
| 16:42.04 | elg | it's still a trend |
| 16:42.46 | RyanE | I don't often look at others' charts, I stay on mine, and yes, it does work better with regular data points. |
| 16:42.49 | elg | if you went back and plotted the exponential smoothed moving average, going back to infinity (this is ok because it's exponential and stuff further back makes almost no difference at all) |
| 16:43.06 | elg | and calculate the weights for each position as S^(i-1) as he does in the equations |
| 16:43.18 | elg | if you do it that way, you get a different answer than if you just go horizontal |
| 16:44.01 | RyanE | sure, but it's a question of how far back to calculate, I stop at 10 days, since it's an exponential dropoff, past 10 days, it's a pretty small difference applied |
| 16:44.18 | elg | right, basically the same difference |
| 16:44.21 | RyanE | you could calculate back to the beginning of the data set, but I don't think it's worth it. |
| 16:45.06 | elg | either way, with n steps or infinity, you are still weighing the measurement a week ago as S^(6) |
| 16:45.07 | RyanE | I just consider the horizontal a 'penalty' for not entering weights... :) |
| 16:45.35 | sjansen | "You want pretty pictures? Feed me data!" |
| 16:45.38 | elg | but if you go horizontal, you're assuming that they all of a sudden stopped losing/gaining weight |
| 16:45.42 | RyanE | and it's 'good enough' right now, and I'm lazy. :) |
| 16:45.46 | RyanE | agreed |
| 16:45.56 | elg | RyanE: fair enough. :) but what if they start gaining weight? going horizontal then becomes a reward! |
| 16:45.59 | RyanE | but you can't predict where the chart should go until another data point is entered. |
| 16:46.09 | elg | well, it's obviously an interpolation |
| 16:46.10 | RyanE | how can you predict the future? |
| 16:46.19 | elg | i can't work magic here :) |
| 16:46.25 | RyanE | well, my interpolation would have been totally wrong for the past week at Disneyland |
| 16:46.40 | RyanE | since I *wasn't* losing weight. (Off the oil)... |
| 16:46.53 | elg | don't worry, it will catch up to the real weights quick enough after you get back |
| 16:47.02 | elg | ;-) |
| 16:47.04 | RyanE | yep, that's why I don't worry. |
| 16:48.55 | RyanE | elg: you doing the oil? |
| 16:50.00 | *** join/#utah decriptor (n=sshaw@137.65.56.19) |
| 16:53.57 | Kemotaha | RyanE, So is that a custom program/website that you are using to track that? |
| 16:54.24 | RyanE | Kemotaha: yeah, one I hacked up in PHP |
| 16:54.30 | RyanE | back when I was doing PHP |
| 16:54.33 | Kemotaha | Its nice, I like it |
| 16:54.35 | RyanE | thanks |
| 16:54.57 | Kemotaha | care if I get the codE? |
| 16:55.11 | RyanE | I've given the code to a few people who wanted to track their own group of people. It started back when I was working with 6 guys, we had an actual contest |
| 16:55.30 | RyanE | Kemotaha: sure. PM me your email |
| 16:55.44 | herlo | fozzmoo: ping |
| 16:55.49 | Kemotaha | yeah I got 20 lbs to lose but I am not very motivated. I was thinking if I got a few todgether I might get more motivated |
| 16:57.44 | sontek | I've got about 30 |
| 16:57.55 | sontek | I've gained 50lbs in 4 years :/ |
| 16:57.58 | RyanE | I've got around 30-35 |
| 16:58.07 | Jayce^ | 10 |
| 16:58.25 | sontek | lets get a graph of us all |
| 17:00.27 | Kemotaha | Maybe we should just have a picture of a fat guy on the site |
| 17:01.11 | Kemotaha | the we can change it based on how much weight we have lost |
| 17:01.20 | fozzmoo | herlo: pong |
| 17:01.29 | fozzmoo | Yeah. I'll shed some weight. |
| 17:01.48 | Kemotaha | put is as the utah Unix weight off |
| 17:02.02 | Kemotaha | s/is/it/ |
| 17:02.33 | Kemotaha | Jayce^, you sure it is just 10lbs? |
| 17:02.39 | *** join/#utah beandog (n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog) |
| 17:07.24 | *** join/#utah decriptor_ (n=sshaw@137.65.57.52) |
| 17:08.40 | sontek | herlo has lardwards.com that we could all join, but I don't want to put money on it |
| 17:08.40 | sontek | but it'd be fun to see the graph |
| 17:08.40 | sontek | lardwars.com <-- |
| 17:08.40 | RyanE | yeah, herlo's improved on my code a bit. |
| 17:09.29 | herlo | RyanE: I'm rewriting it too. Actually was redesigning the db last night. Have about 4 tables done now... |
| 17:09.30 | sontek | but his charges, we need a free one, i'm not willing to put money on my ability to not be lazy |
| 17:09.39 | RyanE | of course, your adoption rate is just as bad as mine... :) |
| 17:09.54 | RyanE | herlo: everyone drops off, lack of motivation. |
| 17:10.19 | herlo | RyanE: yeah. We need to make it hurt |
| 17:10.30 | herlo | RyanE: or no one will buy in. |
| 17:10.58 | RyanE | I don't do well with the financial motivation. it just makes me bitter, doesn't motivate to do better. |
| 17:11.21 | RyanE | I'm doing best this time, nothing on the line except a dinner at my house for everyone who loses more % than me. |
| 17:11.52 | decriptor_ | the reward should be the winner gets an all s/he can eat buffet meal :P |
| 17:11.56 | sontek | yeah, the competition would motivate me, which is whats cool about introplay |
| 17:12.01 | sontek | but their interface wasn't very good |
| 17:12.11 | sontek | but I like my money |
| 17:12.31 | sontek | you know how many double cheeseburgers I can get for $100?! |
| 17:12.52 | Kemotaha | mmm. cheeseburgers.... |
| 17:14.23 | elg | RyanE: no oil at the moment. I'm isolating my experiments. I'm going to see how far swimming alone gets me |
| 17:15.32 | RyanE | elg: I've been on the oil for this chart, I need to start the exercise. |
| 17:17.01 | herlo | RyanE: that might be better |
| 17:17.08 | herlo | the dinner thing |
| 17:17.31 | RyanE | we were planning on having the mocking be the motivation, but the mock has been weak. |
| 17:17.34 | herlo | I like the spirit of the competition, but I've been the one driving it and I'd rather someone else challenge me... |
| 17:17.58 | herlo | which no one seems willing to do. We've all become distant since I moved away |
| 17:18.14 | jsmith | herlo: You're fat! Ha ha ha! |
| 17:18.23 | herlo | RyanE: and you stopped coming. If you'd start coming back to game night, I am sure the gang will be happy again to compete |
| 17:18.28 | herlo | ~fat jsmith |
| 17:18.32 | RyanE | heh |
| 17:18.34 | herlo | jsmith: I know |
| 17:18.34 | RyanE | too busy |
| 17:18.42 | herlo | RyanE: worth a shot! |
| 17:19.07 | RyanE | I still plan on coming back. You were even nice enough to move it closer for me (Orem). :) |
| 17:19.34 | *** join/#utah cardinal (i=judevrie@nat/novell/x-46fa5f0fe14dee3a) |
| 17:19.38 | elg | ~fat $herlo is <action>runs away so $herlo doesn't sit on it |
| 17:19.38 | ibot | okay, elg |
| 17:20.01 | Kemotaha | ~fat herlo |
| 17:20.01 | ibot | ACTION runs away so herlo doesn't sit on it |
| 17:20.16 | elg | ~fat jsmith |
| 17:20.17 | ibot | ACTION runs away so jsmith doesn't sit on it |
| 17:20.35 | RyanE | didn't we agree ibot was a 'her', not an 'it'? |
| 17:20.36 | RyanE | :) |
| 17:20.43 | elg | nobody agreed |
| 17:20.51 | elg | just a little plug slander |
| 17:20.53 | elg | ~gender |
| 17:20.54 | ibot | I'm not sure |
| 17:21.01 | elg | I have always considered that the canonical answer |
| 17:21.09 | RyanE | I'd never thought about it before today. |
| 17:21.10 | elg | whether asking ibot or asking people about ibot |
| 17:21.16 | elg | ~gender |
| 17:21.16 | ibot | I'm female |
| 17:21.31 | elg | ~gender |
| 17:21.32 | ibot | I'm male |
| 17:21.44 | vontrapp | ~bender |
| 17:21.45 | ibot | I am Bender please insert girder |
| 17:21.59 | RyanE | heh. I love bender |
| 17:23.27 | Tpop | Everyone Fungus needs help. He is trying configure a usb for Ubuntu live CD is having very little success. |
| 17:25.08 | Tpop | Never mind, he says he will figure it out on his own and doesn't need anyone's help |
| 17:25.25 | elg | ~fat fungus |
| 17:25.25 | ibot | ACTION runs away so fungus doesn't sit on it |
| 17:26.07 | fungus | I will get it eventually. syslinux is a pain. |
| 17:26.17 | RyanE | by design |
| 17:28.18 | *** join/#utah cardinal (i=judevrie@nat/novell/x-afdc14a29fa1e4d3) |
| 17:28.48 | herlo | Kemotaha: thanks |
| 17:28.51 | herlo | elg: why thank you |
| 17:29.13 | herlo | ~gender ibot |
| 17:29.14 | ibot | I heard ibot is male. |
| 17:29.16 | Kemotaha | for what? |
| 17:29.19 | herlo | oops |
| 17:29.28 | Kemotaha | ~gender herlo |
| 17:29.29 | ibot | I heard herlo is gay. |
| 17:29.35 | RyanE | heh |
| 17:30.12 | Kemotaha | ~gender jsmith |
| 17:30.12 | ibot | I heard jsmith is male. |
| 17:30.25 | Kemotaha | ~gender kemotaha |
| 17:30.26 | ibot | I heard kemotaha is gay. |
| 17:30.35 | Kemotaha | what comes around goes around? |
| 17:31.12 | elg | ~gender emcnabb |
| 17:31.13 | ibot | I heard emcnabb is gay. |
| 17:31.24 | elg | he sure likes that answer |
| 17:31.42 | elg | -urls |
| 17:31.42 | brac | [2007/10/16 10:36:47] <sjansen> http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/e4/signalnoise.html |
| 17:31.42 | brac | [2007/10/16 10:36:14] <sjansen> http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/dochelp/StatTutorial/Running/ |
| 17:31.42 | brac | [2007/10/16 10:18:38] <sontek> http://utahdnug.org/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2109 |
| 17:31.42 | brac | [2007/10/15 23:57:45] <Tene> http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/34685 |
| 17:32.30 | herlo | Kemotaha: what are you doing on saturday |
| 17:32.51 | Kemotaha | maybe coming to your house ;) |
| 17:33.05 | herlo | Kemotaha: don't worry, I won't be there. I'll be out with emcnabb |
| 17:33.27 | Kemotaha | haha |
| 17:33.38 | Kemotaha | ~gender Jayce^ |
| 17:33.39 | ibot | I heard Jayce^ is hermaphroditic. |
| 17:34.32 | fungus | ~gender fungus |
| 17:34.32 | ibot | I heard fungus is male. |
| 17:34.44 | Kemotaha | Jayce doesn't have to go out with anyone |
| 17:35.27 | ekimatuan | I wonder if his wife and kids would find issue with that... |
| 17:35.36 | ekimatuan | on second thought, probably not ;) |
| 17:36.04 | Jayce^ | ~nuke Kemotaha |
| 17:36.04 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Kemotaha ... B☢☢M! |
| 17:36.10 | Jayce^ | ~fish ekimatuan |
| 17:36.10 | ibot | ACTION slaps ekimatuan around with a large trout |
| 17:36.14 | Kemotaha | ~duck |
| 17:36.15 | ibot | Hhhwrraaaaaaaacckk!, or llama! |
| 17:36.30 | Kemotaha | ~starwars |
| 17:36.30 | ibot | i heard starwars is something interesting |
| 17:36.50 | *** part/#utah brasto (n=brasto@out.lnxi.com) |
| 17:37.30 | Kemotaha | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 17:37.30 | ibot | pours gasoline all over Jayce^, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 17:37.41 | Jayce^ | ~flame Kemotaha |
| 17:37.42 | ibot | Kemotaha, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 17:37.54 | Kemotaha | ouch |
| 17:38.12 | *** join/#utah cardinal (i=judevrie@nat/novell/x-31fc3a998c032535) |
| 17:39.08 | *** join/#utah macnewbold (n=mac@cg.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 17:40.36 | Kemotaha | ~karma Jayce^ |
| 17:40.36 | ibot | jayce^ has karma of 4 |
| 17:41.12 | sontek | ~Jayce^++ |
| 17:41.22 | sontek | ~karma Jayce^ |
| 17:41.22 | ibot | jayce^ has karma of 5 |
| 17:41.24 | sontek | :D |
| 17:43.16 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 17:49.15 | Kemotaha | ~Jayce^---- |
| 17:49.26 | Kemotaha | ~karma Jayce^ |
| 17:49.26 | ibot | jayce^ has karma of 5 |
| 17:51.48 | Kemotaha | ~kemotaha++ |
| 17:52.00 | Kemotaha | ~karma kemotaha |
| 17:52.00 | ibot | kemotaha has neutral karma |
| 17:52.10 | Kemotaha | ahh |
| 17:58.38 | vontrapp | ~karma sontek |
| 17:58.38 | ibot | sontek has neutral karma |
| 17:59.55 | *** join/#utah cardinal (i=judevrie@nat/novell/x-9634268f4e19e22e) |
| 18:07.06 | *** join/#utah cardinal (i=judevrie@nat/novell/x-cb54ced7555a945e) |
| 18:13.23 | Jayce^ | ~karma chameleon |
| 18:13.23 | ibot | chameleon has karma of 1 |
| 18:16.17 | *** join/#utah cardinal (i=judevrie@nat/novell/x-2ec043c12f6a408d) |
| 18:23.57 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 18:23.57 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 18:24.19 | goozbach | ~karma karma karma karma karma chameleon |
| 18:24.19 | ibot | karma karma karma karma chameleon has neutral karma |
| 18:26.31 | fungus | ~karma Boy George |
| 18:26.31 | ibot | boy george has neutral karma |
| 18:28.08 | elg | http://hans.fugal.net/images/mg.svg <- whoo sees an image (instead of XML)? |
| 18:28.52 | Kemotaha | xml here |
| 18:29.05 | elg | stupid gnuplot |
| 18:29.10 | Kemotaha | -chat karma |
| 18:29.11 | brac | karma went |
| 18:29.27 | fungus | elg, I see an image if I save it and open it in an image editor |
| 18:29.53 | elg | gnuplot 4.2 does it right. I just need to get that version on that server I guess |
| 18:30.11 | fungus | It's not a gnuplot issue. It's an image format issue. |
| 18:30.19 | fungus | SVG is an image format. |
| 18:30.27 | elg | yeah, which gnuplot 4.0 botches |
| 18:30.28 | jsmith | elg: XML for me... but did you set the content-type correctly? |
| 18:30.29 | fungus | Just not one all browsers support yet |
| 18:30.37 | elg | yes, mime-type is image/svg+xml |
| 18:31.19 | elg | fungus: try this one http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/foo.svg |
| 18:31.25 | elg | it was generated with gnuplot 4.2 and works fine in firefox |
| 18:32.40 | fungus | ahh, Gnuplot 4.0 specifies a crazy DTD |
| 18:32.51 | Kemotaha | image |
| 18:32.54 | fungus | <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 20001102//EN" "svg-20001102.dtd"> |
| 18:33.02 | fungus | <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" |
| 18:33.02 | fungus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:33.09 | fungus | First one was 4.0, second 4.2 |
| 18:36.39 | emcnabb | herlo: I don't like your emcnabb comments :-) |
| 18:37.15 | elg | ~fat emcnabb |
| 18:37.16 | ibot | ACTION runs away so emcnabb doesn't sit on it |
| 18:37.34 | emcnabb | ~gender elg |
| 18:37.34 | ibot | I heard elg is not sure. |
| 18:37.49 | elg | ~date emcnabb |
| 18:37.50 | ibot | you date emcnabb |
| 18:38.09 | emcnabb | I hear Novell is going to be laying off a lot of folks today |
| 18:38.14 | elg | ~kiss emcnabb |
| 18:38.15 | ibot | ACTION forces emcnabb to give admini a big kiss on the lips |
| 18:38.15 | utahcon | sad |
| 18:38.19 | emcnabb | remember to apply at Red Hat! |
| 18:38.47 | utahcon | that means they have a new product ready |
| 18:39.55 | elg | ~taunt emcnabb |
| 18:39.56 | ibot | ACTION folds a paper football and flicks it at emcnabb |
| 18:42.13 | emcnabb | elg: don't you have anything better to do than to harrass dear emcnabb? |
| 18:42.45 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 18:42.46 | ibot | pong |
| 18:43.03 | sjansen | ~praise the pita |
| 18:43.03 | ibot | All hail the pita! |
| 18:44.07 | elg | emcnabb: I guess it is time for lunch |
| 18:53.01 | emcnabb | elg: I had lunch 2 hours ago |
| 18:53.26 | utahcon | 3.7 hours till sleep |
| 18:56.00 | sjansen | ~praise hummus |
| 18:56.01 | ibot | All hail hummus! |
| 19:06.46 | *** join/#utah PelaoFeliz (n=PelaoFel@67.108.236.230) |
| 19:07.17 | thaddeusq | ~praise Mr. Jansen |
| 19:07.17 | ibot | All hail Mr. Jansen! |
| 19:10.02 | PelaoFeliz | hail! |
| 19:12.21 | tensai | tcpdump -n -i lo & |
| 19:12.39 | herlo | emcnabb: hehe, it was a joke man, sorry |
| 19:17.01 | tensai | did anybody try that? it's a fun way to busy up your computer. (hint: there's a *lot* of traffic on lo) |
| 19:26.58 | thaddeusq | tensai: maybe admini and klys did. :) |
| 19:27.10 | Sargun | who is admini |
| 19:27.15 | tensai | Sargun: klys |
| 19:29.33 | jnbek_ | not sure if y'all have seen this or not, so... |
| 19:29.35 | jnbek_ | http://www.noooxml.org/petition |
| 19:30.05 | *** part/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@class1-nat.gurulabs.com) |
| 19:30.11 | *** join/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@class1-nat.gurulabs.com) |
| 19:30.20 | Sargun | oh |
| 19:32.26 | sjansen | ~lart java |
| 19:32.26 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after java's head |
| 19:37.12 | sjansen | Oops, nope, I was wrong. Looks like it was Perl's fault. |
| 19:37.31 | Sargun | lol |
| 19:37.48 | sontek | it always is |
| 19:37.50 | sontek | ~lart perl |
| 19:37.50 | ibot | pries perl's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to perl |
| 19:39.15 | Kemotaha | it's never perls fault |
| 19:39.26 | Kemotaha | it does exactly what you tell it too |
| 19:39.31 | elg | oh, how sweet. an old dying lady is willing me $3.5 million because her family are greedy jerks. all I have to do is send her executor my contact info and address |
| 19:39.50 | Kemotaha | it just sometimes interprets it different from how you imagined |
| 19:40.05 | Kemotaha | elg, In Nigeria? |
| 19:43.04 | elg | no, this is totally legit |
| 19:43.14 | *** join/#utah calvarez (n=Hhhhh@lawn-128-61-22-165.lawn.gatech.edu) |
| 19:43.16 | elg | not one of those scams |
| 19:47.06 | elg | ~explode tensai |
| 19:47.06 | ibot | ACTION blows up tensai with bombs |
| 19:47.16 | elg | i'd just be frugal about buying my big-ticket items |
| 20:05.30 | vontrapp | so, um, what if the executer decides to execute you next, and so on till he's the last one on the will? |
| 20:05.31 | tensai | elg: in case you ever wondered, mon does not work right if the monitor script doesn't produce any output, even if the exit code is correct |
| 20:06.30 | vontrapp | stupid firefox, went on a cpu rampage out of nowhere, it wasn't even on the active desktop |
| 20:06.39 | tensai | speaking of wills, a lawyer friend of mine said that it's completely legal to put contingencies in your will |
| 20:06.56 | tensai | so you can in fact force your kids to stay in a spooky haunted mansion in order to inherit your money |
| 20:07.04 | emcnabb | herlo: haha :-) |
| 20:07.22 | vontrapp | so my cpu goes crazy, i run top |
| 20:07.31 | vontrapp | there's emacs, vim and a few other things jumping around |
| 20:07.49 | vontrapp | of course i think it's quite odd that emacs is running |
| 20:07.49 | vontrapp | then i see all these random user names |
| 20:08.17 | vontrapp | crap, so i hurry to stop ssh, but i have a monitor in gkrellm of ssh connections, and there are none |
| 20:08.27 | vontrapp | i get confused then realize the terminal a ran top in was logged into a lab machine :) |
| 20:10.17 | levi | Silly vontrapp. :) |
| 20:10.22 | tensai | sounds like somebody needs a \h in his PS1 |
| 20:16.13 | *** join/#utah ddrfreak (n=ddrfreak@c-76-27-63-83.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:20.40 | *** join/#utah Heartsbane (n=hearts@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 20:23.39 | tensai | ooh. I just got a spam telling me that october is 83% off. I've always wanted my very own month. |
| 20:24.00 | Kemotaha | sweet, where at? |
| 20:24.11 | Kemotaha | I always wanted my own month too |
| 20:24.34 | levi | You only get your own month if you're an ancient Roman emperor. |
| 20:25.32 | RyanE | of course october is 83% off. It's half over. |
| 20:26.33 | elg | i always wanted octember |
| 20:28.52 | *** part/#utah PelaoFeliz (n=PelaoFel@67.108.236.230) |
| 20:29.02 | Kemotaha | So if I declare myself Emperor of my cubicle and then rename it "ancient Rome" I get to have kemtember? |
| 20:30.29 | Kemotaha | maybe kemogust |
| 20:33.23 | levi | kemquat? |
| 20:33.58 | jsmith | elg: Octember? I much prefer Septober... |
| 20:34.16 | jsmith | elg: In fact, I think the thirty-second of Septober should be a holiday |
| 20:35.12 | Kemotaha | jsmith, aren't you selling your self short. You could totaly have more than 30 seconds |
| 20:35.24 | Kemotaha | :) |
| 20:42.58 | RyanE | /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp.xmission.com > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 20:43.06 | RyanE | heh |
| 20:43.12 | RyanE | gotta love right click paste |
| 20:46.56 | jsmith | The time is now... time to eat! |
| 20:48.35 | herlo | RyanE: right click? That's too much work |
| 20:48.43 | herlo | RyanE: use highlight -> middle click |
| 20:48.44 | herlo | done |
| 20:48.46 | tensai | no no, *write* click |
| 20:49.10 | herlo | tensai: hmm, not sure |
| 20:49.37 | herlo | RyanE: why not use |
| 20:49.43 | RyanE | using putty. I accidentally hit the right button, what was already in the buffer got pasted. |
| 20:49.52 | herlo | RyanE: /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp.xmission.com &> /dev/null ? |
| 20:50.04 | herlo | RyanE: are you using Unix? |
| 20:50.06 | herlo | or Linxu |
| 20:50.08 | herlo | Linux |
| 20:50.08 | RyanE | it happeed to have the <return> at the end in the buffer, so it sent it. |
| 20:50.12 | RyanE | Winders XP |
| 20:50.17 | herlo | RyanE: no |
| 20:50.18 | RyanE | I *am* at work, you know. |
| 20:50.27 | herlo | RyanE: what sysstem are you putty'd into? |
| 20:50.49 | RyanE | screen session on a Linux box that's ssh'ed into another Linux box |
| 20:50.57 | herlo | exactly |
| 20:51.03 | RyanE | but putty does the paste |
| 20:51.18 | herlo | so you should use &> instead of the clunky, hard to remember 2>&1 |
| 20:51.26 | RyanE | I remember 2>&1 better. |
| 20:51.46 | herlo | RyanE: must be those Unix days that did that to ya! |
| 20:51.47 | utahcon | must not be using an iPhone |
| 20:51.49 | RyanE | clunky but remembered is better than non-clunky but can't remember it. |
| 20:51.50 | RyanE | :) |
| 20:52.22 | sjansen | http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20071016092352827 |
| 20:52.38 | RyanE | herlo gets a lot wrong. :) |
| 20:52.39 | herlo | the other one, there's really only one way to go |
| 20:52.50 | herlo | &> or >& and the latter doesn't make sense |
| 20:52.59 | RyanE | herlo > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 20:53.15 | sjansen | 2>&1 <--- 2 process fd, & redirect to fd, 1 process fd |
| 20:53.27 | herlo | RyanE: don't you mean echo herlo &> /dev/null |
| 20:53.32 | RyanE | nope |
| 20:53.46 | RyanE | :) |
| 20:54.47 | RyanE | herlo: the funny thing is that I think there were other things in the crontab that had the &> syntax, but I ignored them. :) |
| 20:55.42 | herlo | RyanE: plus sjansen points out that you're wasting precious cpu cycles with that extra process file descriptors too |
| 20:56.58 | RyanE | I have CPU to spare. |
| 20:57.14 | RyanE | and I use file descriptors like they're going out of style. |
| 20:57.23 | RyanE | aren't they? |
| 20:57.37 | herlo | RyanE: you might run out one day |
| 20:57.41 | herlo | you never know |
| 20:57.53 | RyanE | only if I have a UPS on the box. :) |
| 20:58.50 | utahcon | well.. technically I don't... but my datacenter does :d |
| 20:59.40 | *** part/#utah bonez44 (n=scott@c-24-10-147-163.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:01.40 | *** join/#utah decriptor (n=sshaw@161.28.254.2) |
| 21:04.00 | *** join/#utah Kemotaha (n=Kemotaha@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 21:04.09 | *** join/#utah hatul3016 (i=hatul30@gateway/tor/x-3f732a59e0878c2a) |
| 21:05.45 | nick125 | Anyonere here have a BB8830? I'm kind of wondering how it compares to a Treo (I'm debating between the BB8830 World Edition and the Treo 755p, when it comes out for verizon) |
| 21:09.16 | herlo | ~lart utahcon |
| 21:09.16 | ibot | resizes utahcon's terminal to 40x24 |
| 21:18.23 | *** join/#utah Hearts|laptop (n=hearts@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 21:22.57 | synic | anyone speak Serbian? |
| 21:23.38 | synic | if the cyrilic translation of an app is named sr.po, what would the latinic be named? |
| 21:26.26 | *** join/#utah bbeattie (n=media@65.48.77.206) |
| 21:47.09 | *** join/#utah Kemotaha (n=Kemotaha@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 21:52.38 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 21:52.52 | *** part/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 21:54.00 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 22:03.20 | findlay-w | !OOOOM |
| 22:03.21 | UtahBot | findlay-w: Error: "OOOOM" is not a valid command. |
| 22:03.40 | findlay-w | !valid command |
| 22:03.41 | UtahBot | findlay-w: Error: "valid" is not a valid command. |
| 22:03.53 | findlay-w | !action |
| 22:03.54 | UtahBot | findlay-w: Error: "action" is not a valid command. |
| 22:04.01 | findlay-w | !stuff |
| 22:04.02 | UtahBot | findlay-w: Error: "stuff" is not a valid command. |
| 22:06.30 | *** part/#utah decriptor (n=sshaw@161.28.254.2) |
| 22:06.49 | *** join/#utah Newsome (n=sorenson@adsl-75-0-136-70.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:19.21 | tensai | Newsome: do you know if byu uses any routing protocols internally? |
| 22:19.41 | Newsome | not sure |
| 22:20.40 | Newsome | when I was last there, I think everything was statically configured, but they may have changed since then |
| 22:22.31 | Newsome | torriem would probably know |
| 22:24.13 | *** part/#utah bbeattie (n=media@65.48.77.206) |
| 22:43.12 | *** join/#utah sargun-palm (n=upirc@032-249-438.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 22:43.20 | sargun-palm | hey |
| 22:44.05 | sargun-palm | I wish I had vdesktops |
| 22:44.14 | sargun-palm | is anyone here? |
| 22:44.33 | levi | no |
| 22:44.46 | sargun-palm | ~say ø |
| 22:44.46 | ibot | ø |
| 22:45.22 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: hello |
| 22:45.22 | sargun-palm | NullPointerException |
| 22:45.31 | sargun-palm | noooo |
| 22:45.45 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: :( thanks |
| 22:45.47 | sargun-palm | hi Lakshmi |
| 22:46.03 | sargun-palm | how are you Lakshmi |
| 22:46.12 | sargun-palm | sup Lakshmi |
| 22:46.48 | sargun-palm | ~seen xbmodder |
| 22:46.50 | ibot | xbmodder <n=xbmodder@atarack/staff/sargun> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 311d 17h 29m 22s ago, saying: ':-)'. |
| 22:47.05 | sargun-palm | ~seen sargun |
| 22:47.06 | ibot | sargun <n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 3h 9m 35s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 22:47.15 | Lakshmi | nm nm sargun-palm waiting to leave and die |
| 22:47.24 | Lakshmi | and watching antm |
| 22:47.35 | Lakshmi | and oh roomate drama is funny |
| 22:47.46 | sargun-palm | levi, do you like ANTM? |
| 22:47.54 | sargun-palm | oh, what's going on? |
| 22:47.57 | Lakshmi | of course levi does |
| 22:48.05 | Lakshmi | i'll tell you later sargun-palm |
| 22:48.32 | levi | sargun-palm: What is ANTM? |
| 22:48.41 | Lakshmi | levi: the best thing in the world |
| 22:49.29 | levi | Lakshmi: We must be measuring on different scales. Whatever ANTM, I'm sure it's not the best thing in the world to ME. |
| 22:49.32 | sargun-palm | ~antm |
| 22:49.52 | sargun-palm | ~google antm |
| 22:50.20 | sargun-palm | levi, what is the best thing in the world |
| 22:50.30 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: antm theres diamonds |
| 22:50.53 | levi | sargun-palm: I'm not sure. |
| 22:50.55 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: how long do u think it'll take me to get there |
| 22:51.06 | Lakshmi | and uh is it an all day parking thing. or is it like a meter? |
| 22:51.11 | Lakshmi | so do i need to bring change? |
| 22:51.29 | sargun-palm | an hour. and an all day thing. and bring 350 in change. |
| 22:52.03 | levi | ANTM = America's Next Top Model? |
| 22:52.12 | Lakshmi | levi: your smart! |
| 22:52.54 | levi | I have not seen it, but it is definitely not the best thing in the world. |
| 22:52.55 | sargun-palm | pipe pipe |
| 22:53.05 | sontek | Jayce^: ping |
| 22:53.26 | findlay-w | ~date |
| 22:53.26 | ibot | It is now 2007.10.16 22:53:26 GMT |
| 22:54.21 | Lakshmi | levi: watch it its a lotta fun |
| 22:54.29 | sargun-palm | ~time |
| 22:54.29 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2007.10.16 22:54:29 GMT |
| 22:54.29 | Lakshmi | even sargun-palm loves it |
| 22:55.37 | levi | Lakshmi: I have several gigabytes of shows on my DVR that I'd rather watch. |
| 22:55.59 | Lakshmi | like what? |
| 22:57.05 | sargun-palm | mythbusters |
| 22:57.22 | sargun-palm | installing gentoo linux screencast |
| 22:57.37 | levi | Some Nova episodes, several America's Test Kitchen shows, and lots of other things that I don't recall what they are. |
| 22:57.45 | sargun-palm | oh, how watching a stage1 install would be so entertaining! |
| 22:58.16 | sargun-palm | levi: you have mythtv? |
| 22:58.25 | sargun-palm | and why no mythbusters? |
| 22:58.33 | levi | sargun-palm: I don't have cable. |
| 22:58.39 | Lakshmi | cause thats not cool sargun-palm |
| 22:58.47 | levi | sargun-palm: Or satellite. |
| 22:59.05 | levi | Just OTA digital broadcasts. |
| 22:59.14 | sargun-palm | a |
| 22:59.41 | sargun-palm | they don't have OTA except community programming at my HQ |
| 22:59.41 | sargun-palm | :-p |
| 22:59.47 | levi | I don't watch much TV, anyway. |
| 23:00.34 | sargun-palm | dvds |
| 23:01.03 | levi | I don't watch many dvds, either. |
| 23:01.36 | beandog | sargun-palm, screencast? |
| 23:01.37 | sargun-palm | what do you do in your spare time? |
| 23:01.53 | sargun-palm | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.01 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: cya in a bit |
| 23:02.05 | beandog | thats what I was asking, you mentioned it :) |
| 23:02.15 | beandog | whats a screencast |
| 23:02.55 | levi | sargun-palm: I don't have a lot of it, and I spend some of it with my family and some of it reading, some playing with my new guitar, some screwing around online, etc. |
| 23:03.42 | sargun-palm | oh. you have a family. |
| 23:03.43 | sargun-palm | of your own |
| 23:03.51 | levi | Yup. |
| 23:04.07 | levi | I'm an old man! |
| 23:04.10 | sargun-palm | that'll cause your time to fall off the edge of the world |
| 23:04.34 | Lakshmi | sargun-palm: pm? |
| 23:04.38 | sargun-palm | why did you want a family |
| 23:04.48 | levi | Well, before I had a family, I spent a lot of time with social activities aimed at finding me someone to start a family with. ;) |
| 23:05.30 | levi | Humans are generally wired to want families. |
| 23:06.27 | sargun-palm | hehe |
| 23:07.15 | nick125 | I'm used to the Treos, but it kind of worries me if the device has failed QA 3-4 times so far. I've also heard the BBs are much more stable than PalmOS. |
| 23:07.42 | sargun-palm | BBs suck |
| 23:07.48 | sargun-palm | they can't do snyinth |
| 23:08.01 | nick125 | It's a much more closed platform than PalmOS or WM. |
| 23:12.11 | sargun-palm | nick125: what does bb have |
| 23:12.32 | nick125 | Application wise? No idea. |
| 23:15.45 | sargun-palm | I don't think they have irc |
| 23:15.45 | sargun-palm | FAIL |
| 23:15.57 | nick125 | I heard there is a BB IRC client. |
| 23:16.01 | sargun-palm | they just failed the sargun QA process |
| 23:17.07 | fungus | They have an SSH client... irssi anyone? |
| 23:17.42 | nick125 | There's a |
| 23:17.58 | nick125 | There's a BB vs. Treo thread on treocentral, but that might be slightly biased :-/ |
| 23:19.08 | sargun-palm | ha |
| 23:19.16 | sargun-palm | lemme guess its protreo |
| 23:19.20 | sargun-palm | and its right |
| 23:19.31 | nick125 | It's pro-treo, of course. |
| 23:19.36 | sargun-palm | DO NOT GO TO THE DARKSIDE NICK |
| 23:19.51 | sargun-palm | otherwise I will impale you with a stylus |
| 23:20.05 | nick125 | I like how the BB is not touch screen oriented. |
| 23:21.46 | nick125 | I hate touch screens most of the time. |
| 23:22.15 | *** join/#utah sargun-palm (n=upirc@032-249-438.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 23:22.28 | sargun-palm | can the bb multitask? |
| 23:22.49 | *** join/#utah sargun-palm (n=upirc@032-249-438.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 23:22.54 | nick125 | sargun-palm: Not sure. |
| 23:23.17 | nick125 | The main thing that I'm looking at is a reliable device (on my Treo 650, I did not consider that reliable, more like a crapshoot) |
| 23:23.42 | sargun-palm | yeah |
| 23:23.46 | sargun-palm | the 650 sucks |
| 23:23.51 | sargun-palm | 700 is good imho |
| 23:25.11 | sargun-palm | ™ |
| 23:25.17 | sargun-palm | ~time |
| 23:25.18 | ibot | 2007.10.16 23:25:18 GMT |
| 23:25.36 | sargun-palm | this class ends tonight! |
| 23:26.34 | nick125 | My 680 is a bit better in reliability |
| 23:26.54 | nick125 | I think I've only had to reset it 2-3 times since I got it. |
| 23:27.10 | nick125 | sargun-palm: Have any opinions on the 755p? |
| 23:32.16 | nick125 | Or maybe I should get the LG VX10000 *ducks* |
| 23:38.29 | sargun-palm | haven't played enoguh with the 755p |
| 23:38.53 | sargun-palm | you should get the HTC FLAGULATION |
| 23:39.02 | nick125 | HTC devices blow. |
| 23:39.07 | sargun-palm | I know |
| 23:39.26 | sargun-palm | get windows mobile on htc all the way dude |
| 23:39.31 | sargun-palm | windows 2003 |
| 23:40.24 | nick125 | where's my heavy artillery........ |
| 23:40.57 | sargun-palm | don't you -luv- htc's winshit |
| 23:41.40 | sargun-palm | cmon |
| 23:41.44 | sargun-palm | ~date |
| 23:41.44 | ibot | It is now 2007.10.16 23:41:44 GMT |
| 23:41.58 | sargun-palm | t-minus 18 minutes |
| 23:42.04 | nick125 | I've dealt enough with WM to make me never want a WM device ever. |
| 23:42.18 | nick125 | my last WM phone is laying in the street somewhere |
| 23:42.46 | sargun-palm | cmon give it another try |
| 23:43.21 | nick125 | I hate the HTC sliding devices too |
| 23:43.52 | nick125 | Asurion tried to pal^H^H^Hgive me one. |
| 23:45.03 | *** join/#utah redbeard2 (n=route@65.210.196.9) |
| 23:46.39 | Supaplex | ~punt WM |
| 23:46.40 | ibot | ACTION sends WM into a new timezone |
| 23:46.44 | redbeard2 | ~ibot herlo |
| 23:46.45 | ibot | from memory, herlo is the best boardgamer ever, works for Guru Labs and generally reads good things his friends lend him |
| 23:47.39 | sargun-palm | lol |
| 23:48.30 | sargun-palm | ~lart WM |
| 23:48.30 | ibot | slaps WM upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 23:48.53 | sargun-palm | lol |
| 23:49.16 | sargun-palm | ~nick125 WM |
| 23:49.17 | ibot | ACTION puts WM on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes WM use Gentoo on there. |
| 23:49.45 | nick125 | sargun-palm: Remember we tried that with a customer (actually, it was 48MB, I believe) |
| 23:51.11 | nick125 | Or rather, not a customer but a freeloader. |
