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00:04.02bracthere's another phone jack
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00:31.45elgdie, mosquito!
00:32.15Supaplex~eat mosquito
00:32.15ibotACTION eats mosquito and falls over dead
00:32.29elgbug repellent is fine outside
00:32.43elgbut I don't want to live in fear perpetually smelling like bug spray in my own house
00:32.45elgso I smash them
00:33.04elgbut I fear natural selection is making them harder to hunt
00:34.26Lakshmihey
00:34.44Supaplexnatural selection is allowing them to sneak into your home ;)
00:35.44elgwell, that's not too difficult. the "screen door" has a big 3" gap all the way around and any half-witted bug can find its way in
00:36.43nick125elg: Maybe you should patch that hole...it's probably worth the cost of the new screen to do it.
00:37.37Lakshmiduct tape is the cure for everthing
00:38.55Lakshmihehe
00:40.51elgnick125: yeah, but it's not mine to patch
00:41.05elgi could do some kind of duct tape plastic thing, and we've been meaning to
00:41.29nick125elg: Aah.
00:41.32elgit's a metal security/screen door
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00:53.35ibottickles tuple with a rose bush
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02:23.33bracWhat's the difference between margarine and butter o/~ "
02:28.18Supaplexsweet. $40.55 for ink I'll never use. :)
02:29.41Lakshmihuh?
02:30.29Supaplexmy ebay auction 140167293963
02:31.26Lakshmioh
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02:42.32bonez44I need to clean out unused files from my /    I have two partitions on my etch machine..it has a small 10 gb hdd.../ has 2.7 gb and it's nearly used up...and /home is on a second partitition occupying the rest of the drive...
02:42.48bonez44how do I judiciously clean up the files I do not need on /?
02:44.48Supaplexapt-get clean
02:44.57Supaplexfor starters :)
02:47.41bonez44already did that..it freed up about 60 mb...
02:48.21bonez44I am always puzzled when I install drivers or something and it installs all these language modules that I'll never use..or printer set up...installs for a thousand printers I'll never need...can't i PURGE stuff like that?
02:49.38Supaplexthere's a locale widget that'll axe your usused locales
02:49.50bonez44my UNused locales?
02:50.01bonez44ok, where do I find such a widget?
02:50.12SupaplexI don't remember
02:50.16bonez44hmmm ok
02:50.19Supaplexyes, unused
02:50.31bonez44I'll check in #debian, see if anyone there knows...
02:52.54bonez44how about stuff in /tmp...I see lots of printer temp files there..can I eliminate all the stuff sitting there, except that dated today?
02:53.05Supaplexsure
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02:53.31fozzmooherlo: pig
02:53.35fozzmooherlo: piNg!
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03:24.08Supaplex~feed herlo
03:24.08ibotACTION offers herlo some pizza
03:24.33bonez44hmmm pizza....
03:26.22Supaplexoh yeah.
03:37.17Supaplexhumm anyone have a pcmcia/cardbus<->pci bridge to spare?
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04:14.39sontek<PROTECTED>
04:15.59sontekso, I'm writing this open source conference registration system
04:16.04sontekdo you think CRAP is a bad name for it?
04:16.24sontek[C]onference [R]egistration [a]nd [P]lanning
04:18.50Supaplexit's memorable
04:19.11Lakshmilol
04:19.14Lakshmithats funny
04:19.33sontekdone
04:19.47sontekand the domain is available, crapevents.com
04:19.48sontek;P
04:19.53sonteki'm so happy
04:21.01Supaplexschedule hirearichal intriquite tenures
04:21.16sonteklol
04:23.17sontekback when I was a douche and played everquest I ran a guild called SHAFT
04:23.22sontekSuper Happy and Fun Times
04:23.23sontek:P
04:25.29Supaplexoh yeh
04:25.58sontekso i'm loving openwrt :P
04:26.12vontrappopenwrt is teh cool
04:26.33Supaplexno. it's tEh SCHWEET.
04:26.34sontekWe just got back from Braza, not as good as rodizio, but it filled me up
04:27.09sontekI'm not to fluent with iptables just yet, but if you can believe it, it improved my network speeds a ton
04:27.16sontekthe firmware I was using was *terrible*  
04:28.38Supaplexspeaking of openwrt, time to install a few little pkgs.
04:29.27vontrappthe package manager doesn't check to see if that's going to be a problem, then it falls flat on it's face
04:29.42Supaplex??!?! Oct 14 04:28:44 pyroclastic user.info kernel: lp: driver loaded but no devices found
04:32.28Supaplexhumm... 302
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04:40.59nick125Sargun!
04:41.06Sargunnick125!
04:41.22nick125I don't know how....but it just works.
04:41.25Sargunnick125, FXO is what you hook upto your external phone line?
04:41.26Sargunright?
04:41.32nick125Yes.
04:41.39nick125FXS - Station
04:42.09Sargunwhat's the cheapest FXO device you can buy?
04:42.39Sargun$60 apparently.
04:42.41nick125barbiestream.
04:42.54Sargunhaha
04:42.57Sargunhm
04:43.10Supaplexit's too hard ;`(
04:43.11nick125"Your first SIP FXO device!"
04:43.19Supaplexheh heh heh...
04:43.23SargunCan you get serial modems still?
04:43.37SargunWell, reasonably priced ones
04:43.43Sargunthat will accept incoming connections
04:43.43nick125Sargun: ebay.
04:43.54nick125Oh god, what are you planning?
04:44.33Sargunhaha
04:44.36SargunI'm evil.
04:44.51SargunAn unhackable credit card.
04:44.55Supaplexwe'll quote on that.
04:44.58nick125Let me guess. A dialup pool over VoIP.
04:45.04nick125oh. lol
04:45.07SupaplexewwwwwwwWWWWWWWwww
04:45.16SargunWell, I mean fraud wise
04:45.21SargunIt'll be pretty much impossible.
04:45.26Sargununless either you screw up
04:45.30Sargunor the vendor screws up.
04:46.51SargunWhat's the cheapest embedded PC out there?
04:47.05Sargunwith either USB or serial available
04:47.18Sargunthat has all the necessary components to run Linux.
04:47.27Sargunor cheapest embedded Linux device.
04:48.11Sargunstix (can't remember their full name)?
04:48.22SargunGumStix aren't cheap.
04:49.09SargunThere was that one that had two USB ports
04:49.10Sargungah
04:49.13SargunI can't remember
04:54.25leviNo embedded PC is cheap.
04:54.44nick125Supaplex: Just think: it could be worse. It would be fax over VoIP.
04:54.48nick125*could be
04:55.02Supaplex~lart FoIP
04:55.02ibotstuffs FoIP into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it
04:55.09Supaplexyay!
04:55.17nick125haha
04:55.37leviSargun: The only way any electronic device can be cheap is if you make LOTS of them.  Prototypes are invariably expensive.
04:59.47Supaplexthe first few transistors were pricey. :)
05:05.46vontrappwtf? my port forwardings aren't working
05:06.30vontrappi forward port 22 on my openwrt and it works
05:06.43vontrappi forward port 10000 and it sits there and never connects
05:07.06vontrappi don't forward the port and i get connection refused
05:07.10vontrappof course
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05:08.25vontrappthe forwarding is taking effect, but it doesn't go through if it's > some arbitrary port or something
05:12.28nick125Sargun: Soo...what's up?
05:17.06vontrapphmmmm, it's really looking like the problem is my laptop
05:17.29vontrapparbitrary port works from caradhras (my router) to certain ports on dernhelm (my laptop)
05:17.43vontrappcaradhras:50086 -> dernhelm:22 works
05:17.58vontrappcaradhras:22 -> dernhelm:50086 doesn't
05:18.19vontrappcaradhras:22 -> dernhelm:22 works
05:18.35vontrappcaradhras:50086 -> dernhelm:86 doesn't
05:18.36vontrappgrrrr
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05:31.54bracso levi votes for pbm/ppm
05:37.35Sargunnick125, !
05:37.36SargunI'm back.
05:37.38nick125Sargun: hey
05:39.45nick125Sargun: sup?
05:39.49SargunNot much
05:39.50Sargunyou?
05:40.29nick125Not too much, just wondering what happens when you run five emerges at once..
05:40.59Supaplexit's 5x the fun
05:41.00SargunIT goes fast?
05:41.13nick125<PROTECTED>
05:41.26nick125That time is off too...hrm
05:42.27Sargunhaha
05:43.41Supaplexit's time to use ntp
05:44.29nick125Yeah, that just finished emerging.
05:45.58vontrappif i can connect to a port on the external address of a machine _from_ that machine but can't from another machine, does that mean the problem is on machine 2?
05:46.16Sargunnick125, What else do you have muerging
05:46.24Sargunvontrapp, iptables?
05:46.34vontrappi guess
05:46.45vontrappi don't see anything that would be a problem, but i don't know iptables that well
05:46.51nick125Sargun: I have python-updater running in one terminal, revdep-rebuild running in another, and emerge -av mozilla-firefox mozilla-thunderbird in another.
05:47.00nick125The other two emerges finished
05:47.41nick125Except that python-updater hates me and won't work right...so I have to manually emerge some packages
05:48.49nick125(mainly because it tries to pull two versions of the same package into the same SLOT)
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05:51.12Sargunfozzmoo, !
05:51.39fozzmooHi
05:51.45fozzmooWhat an experience I just had.
05:51.51nick125Sargun: Have you seen Chris around?
05:51.58SargunI think he is josh
05:52.00Sargunfozzmoo, What?
05:52.01Sargunjust
05:52.04Sargunexperienced you
05:52.04fozzmooI built this new server for my house.
05:52.07vontrapphttp://pastebin.com/d5a3a17c9
05:52.13Sargunnick125, So refer him to as Chris-Josh
05:52.15vontrappthat's the iptables -L -v on the router
05:52.17Sargunnick125, And no.
05:52.35nick125Sargun: Is it just me or do you think everyone is Josh?
05:52.36Sargunwhat port
05:52.39fozzmooI was seeing some weirdness- weird drive errors on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
05:52.42Sargunvontrapp, and do an iptables-save
05:52.45nick125Sargun: :-P
05:53.09fozzmooThose are two drives I've got mirrored, so I really didn't think there was anything wrong with the drives.
05:53.25fozzmooThose two drives were attached to the onboard SATA ports on the motherboard.
05:53.37nick125Sargun: PM.
05:53.46fozzmooThe other four drives are connected to a Silicon Image 3114-based PCI card.
05:53.47vontrappit's not on my router, what's it do?
05:54.01fozzmooSo, I figured the onboard SATA is borked.
05:54.05Sargunvontrapp, do an iptables-save it lists the rules.
05:54.12fozzmooI found a Promise TX4 300 card.
05:54.17vontrappmy router doesn't have that command
05:54.28Sargun....
05:54.30fozzmooiptables-save is a RH-ism.
05:54.30Sargunas root?
05:54.36fozzmoobtw.
05:54.39Sargunvontrapp, and Gentoo Linux.
05:54.56Sargun/sbin/iptables-save
05:55.01SupaplexI have iptables-save in debian
05:55.07Supaplexand on openwrt
05:55.10vontrappi have it in debian, but not on my router
05:55.13fozzmooOh really? Cool.
05:55.17fozzmooRH invented it.
05:55.27Supaplexthey invented a lot of nice things :)
05:55.28vontrappiptables-save on my laptop does nothing
05:55.29Sargunvontrapp, run it as /sbin/iptables-save
05:55.41vontrappnot found
05:55.43Sargunvontrapp, no iptables rules
05:55.45fozzmooSo... anyway, booting my server, it kernel panic'd...
05:55.46Sargunvontrapp, weird.
05:56.06fozzmooBecause, of course, the sata_via driver was in the initial ramdisk,. but the sata_promise driver was not.
05:56.20fozzmooSo, I had to boot into rescue mode and build a new initrd image.
05:56.31Sargunfozzmoo, compile your own kernel?
05:56.31fozzmooAnd then it would boot.
05:56.31nick125fozzmoo: Sounds like you had a bunch of fun today.
05:56.39fozzmooThis is within the last hour.
05:56.44nick125Sargun: You need an initrd for RAID/LVM2.
05:56.57nick125Well...if your / is on RAID/LVM2.
05:57.01fozzmooMeanwhile, my wife comes down saying she can't even boot up her machine upstairs.
05:57.06fozzmooRight. root is on a raid-1
05:57.29fozzmooShe can't boot her machine because the server is also an LDAP server for all the other machines to authenticate against,.
05:57.53fozzmooSo, she sits down at my machine to play some mines while the server is booting (and fsck'ing)...
05:58.01fozzmooShe can't even launch mines because of the LDAP issue.
05:58.05Sargunfozzmoo, haha
05:58.15SargunLDAP
05:58.19Sargunfor your daughter
05:58.30fozzmooBut, fortunately for her, I had my Windows machine up on monitor #2.\
05:58.43fozzmooSo, she played minesweeper there. But she complained it was too small.
05:58.57fozzmooBumped the resolution down to 800x600 so it was big, like Gnome's mines. :)
05:59.09fozzmooBut now everytrhing is cool... at the moment.
06:00.10vontrapphad to use sudo
06:00.21fozzmooThe Windows machine authenticates against the LDAP server too (via Samba) but is apparently a lot more tolerant of authentication servers dropping off the Net.
06:01.01vontrappwhy need authentication to run gmines?
06:01.21fozzmooBecause I was logged in as a user that only existed in LDAP.
06:01.28vontrappi see
06:01.47fozzmooSo, the system kinda froze up.
06:01.56Sargunhah
06:02.39vontrappso, were there any rogue rules in that router iptables -L?
06:03.03Sargunvontrapp, all I know is that the rules are weird.
06:03.11vontrappweird how?
06:03.38Sargun<PROTECTED>
06:03.38Sargun<PROTECTED>
06:03.38Sargun<PROTECTED>
06:03.38Sargun<PROTECTED>
06:03.40Sargunmaybe those
06:04.04Sarguninsert a LOG rule for every DROP/REJECT
06:04.41vontrapphmm, don't know why i didn't see those
06:05.31vontrappwhere would those rules be coming from?
06:05.39Sargundefaults
06:05.44vontrappthey're not in /etc/firewall.user or /etc/config/firewall
06:06.05Sarguniptables -I INPUT -j ACCEPT
06:06.29Supaplexthen my firewall is born again. ;)
06:07.08vontrappcome to think of it, my first problems might have been right around when i first added a forward rule to the router
06:07.23vontrappmaybe that overwrote something that used to be clearing bad defaults
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06:08.31Sargunfozzmoo, what happened
06:08.32fozzmooheh.
06:08.44fozzmooOh my keyboard has been having some problems.
06:08.52vontrappSargun: that didn't help
06:08.56fozzmooMost likely due to excess sunflower seed debris.
06:09.15vontrapp~seed fozzmoo
06:09.43fozzmooIt was acting up, so I put it on its side and banged it a couple times to dislodge whatever was causing the problem.
06:09.50fozzmooThat seemed to send a CTRL+ALT+BKSP to the machine.
06:09.52vontrappwould i be asking for trouble to just clear ALL the iptables rules on my router?
06:10.00fozzmooI had another keyboard in the car, so I went and got it.
06:10.09fozzmooNow I'm back. :)
06:10.28vontrapphaha
06:11.03vontrappso how do i go ahead and clear all iptables?
06:11.04Supaplexapt-get remove --purge sunflower-{seeds,debris}
06:11.18fozzmooOkay. one more time. Brb.
06:12.24Supaplexiptables -F
06:12.34Supaplex; iptables -F -t nat
06:12.57Sargunvontrapp, do it for now.
06:13.08Supaplexif you didn't save any rules on openwrt, I think you can just reboot. or run the firewall script again.
06:13.33Supaplexwell, that'll restore defaults. nm. it might not even tollerate existing rules.
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06:14.29vontrapp_apparently that was asking for trouble
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06:15.22vontrapp-lart Supaplex
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06:16.33Supaplexc cgi: system("/usr/local/bin/mycgi.pl"); (or something like that)
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06:17.32fozzmooOkay. All is good, I think.
06:17.33Sargunfozzmoo, having some issues?
06:17.43Sargunwhat was going horribly wrong?
06:17.47fozzmooWell, my X config kinda went wonky with that keyboard issue.
06:17.58fozzmooI think it was related to the new 22-inch LCD I bought.
06:18.03Sargunlol
06:18.17fozzmooI know. Poor me. :)
06:18.57vontrappso clearing all the iptables rules didn't work, which i guess makes sense, because it's a router with switches and stuff it has to know how to route
06:19.39Sargunvontrapp, so you can't connect to the router still?
06:19.47vontrappi can, i had to restart it
06:19.57Supaplexfozzmoo: cool. screen realestate upgrades are nice :)
06:20.00vontrappthose pesky rejects are back
06:20.06fozzmoo:)
06:20.09vontrappfozzmoo: what res?
06:20.14fozzmoo1680x1050
06:20.19SargunLemme guess, there is NAT on it?
06:20.22fozzmooSame as my laptop... but much bigger.
06:20.45vontrappSargun: yes
06:21.11fozzmoovontrapp: Your HP is 1920x1200?
06:21.15vontrappyep
06:21.27SargunOh
06:21.32Sargunyou shoulda said that earlier
06:21.34fozzmooI would have bought that if they had it when I bought mine. They started selling that resolution like 3 weeks later.
06:22.05vontrappmy 3 year warranty expired :(
06:22.14fozzmooTime to get a new one.
06:22.15vontrappbut not before i got a new hard drive
06:22.37nick125Sargun: here?
06:22.46vontrappso yes, clearing iptables on a nat router is bad
06:22.50vontrapp-lart Supaplex again
06:22.58fozzmooI either want to get a Thinkpad T61p...
06:22.59nick125Sargun: call me
06:23.17Sargunnick125, you didn't pickup the first two times.
06:23.21SargunI thought someone killed you
06:23.22Sargunnamed josh
06:23.46vontrappso how would i clear just those reject rules?
06:23.51fozzmoo... or an HP 7615b business notebook
06:24.00vontrappand what's the difference between reject and drop?
06:24.04Supaplexvontrapp: iptables-save | grep -iv reject | iptables-restore
06:24.15nick125vontrapp: drop silently drops it, reject sends a TCP reject
06:24.21vontrappi don't HAVE iptables-save
06:24.22Supaplexreject sends a response back "No!"; drop just ignores it.
06:24.52vontrappwell, my particular problem constitutes not getting a "No!"
06:25.00fozzmooPeregrine (Lamont) has a 7615b and it takes a second battery that doubles as a wedge under the back of the laptop...
06:25.13fozzmooGets 12 hours of battery time.
06:25.23fozzmooOh, and it's AMD dual-core. :)
06:25.33fozzmooThat just gives me warm fuzzies.
06:26.14vontrappso if i don't get a connection refused, does that mean the culprit is a DROP rule?
06:26.27Supaplexvontrapp: most likely
06:26.30fozzmooyeah. I agree.
06:26.44fozzmooDROP ~ discard.
06:26.50vontrapp<PROTECTED>
06:26.51Supaplexit could be a rule on the OUTPUT chain. (rejecting itself.. you'll get no reply either)
06:27.00fozzmooSupaplex: Oooh yeah.
06:27.08vontrappthere's another one that says "state INVALID"
06:27.18Supaplexthat's connection tracking related.
06:27.25fozzmooAnother nice thing about the HP 7615b - you can get it with FreeDOS as the "installed OS"
06:27.34Supaplexif the connection tracking infeers it's junk, poof.
06:27.47vontrappfozzmoo: sweet!
06:28.03fozzmooYeah. Saves $100 and saves you having to deal with the M$ crap.
06:28.19SupaplexI'd like my $100 back. >:(
06:28.39vontrappis there a package for openwrt that provides iptables-save?
06:28.53Supaplexvontrapp: ipkg update ; ipkg list | grep iptables
06:29.07Supaplexiptables-utils - 1.3.7-1 - iptables save and restore utilities
06:29.25vontrappi hosed my ipkg config when i had full ram
06:29.40vontrappi now have 0.9 backports, and X-Wrt in my repos
06:29.46vontrappis there something else i should have?
06:30.44vontrappoh, there's the utils
06:30.46SupaplexI only listed the one you wanted. I'm on 7.07 (but may well be getting 7.09 packages)
06:32.23vontrapphttp://pastie.caboo.se/107017
06:32.27vontrappthere it is ^^
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06:33.07fozzmooOkay. Now I have to take that dang server down and disconnect the optical drive I've got hanging out the side so I can put the cover back on. :)
06:36.58vontrappif i read this output correctly, i have a fat DROP rule in the second section, with LAN_ACCEPT
06:37.21vontrappand who knows, maybe it thinks 172.17.86.0/24 isn't LAN
06:39.45vontrappi still don't understand why some ports work and not others
06:40.04vontrappit's not like there's anything in there accepting just the some ports that do work
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06:42.29vontrappyay! i figured it out finally
06:42.32vontrappit was my laptop
06:42.51vontrapphad some zany lock everything out policy
06:43.08bonez44how do i change my systemwide viewer for say  .wmv files...now, Totem tries to open and I guess Totem is the default viewer, but I want to have it be mplayer instead..where do I change this?
06:44.21bonez44I know in windows, one changes the extension type...to determine how windows will handle file types...
06:45.04bonez44dang...
06:47.11Supaplexmore proof that linux is bad. you don't know how to fix it because it don't break often enough. :}
06:47.18Supaplex</sarcasm>
06:47.22bonez44;)
06:47.49vontrappbonez44: i just remove totem and all totem related packages
06:48.12bonez44ok...
06:48.13vontrapptotem is teh sucks but it tries it's darndest to associate itself with everything anyway
06:48.57bonez44ah, but when I invoke 'apt-get remove totem' it tells me it will also remove GNOME from my system....
06:49.06bonez44can't I just get it to strip out totem and to leave gnome?
06:50.11Supaplexis it just the gnome metapackage?
06:50.46bonez44it says this > The following packages will be REMOVED:
06:50.46bonez44<PROTECTED>
06:50.53bonez44is that a meta package?
06:51.03bonez44I like gnome and dont' mind it being my environment here...
06:51.06bonez44dont' want it hozed
06:51.13vontrappyah, you don't want to remove gnome-desktop-environment
06:51.26bonez44ok....
06:51.31vontrapptry apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
06:51.35vontrappthen apt-get remove totem
06:51.43bonez44ok
06:52.17bonez44says' that gnome-desktop-environment is always the newest
06:52.39vontrappyeah, the idea is to tell it you want gnome-desktop
06:52.52vontrappnow see if it still wants to remove it when you remove totem
06:53.13bonez44keller:/home/scott# apt-get remove totem
06:53.13bonez44Reading package lists... Done
06:53.13bonez44Building dependency tree... Done
06:53.13bonez44The following packages will be REMOVED:
06:53.13bonez44<PROTECTED>
06:53.16bonez44that's what it does...
06:53.36vontrappi guess it does depend on totem
06:53.59vontrappand i guess i don't have it installed
06:54.34bonez44ok...
06:54.41vontrappthe other thing you could try is editing /etc/mailcap
06:54.48SupaplexDepends: totem-xine (>= 2.16.5-3) | totem-gstreamer (>= 2.16.5-3)
06:54.48SupaplexDescription: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)
06:56.02Supaplextotem-xine Depends: ....... libgnome-desktop-2
06:56.14Supaplexbonez44: ubuntu? debian? remind me.
06:59.16bonez44debian etch here
06:59.56Supaplexyou'll have a little more control just running aptitude interactively
07:00.50bonez44aptitude...? it hozed my system the last time I ran it..
07:01.20Supaplexwhat did you uninstall? :-x that's unusual.
07:01.48bonez44I didn't uninstall anything YET....
07:02.00Supaplex'last time'
07:02.45bonez44don't recall the last time
07:03.21vontrapppeople say that's unusual, but i've had the exact same experience with aptitude, more than once
07:03.31vontrappi shy away from it, but that's just me *shrug*
07:04.18bonez44I shy away from it.....
07:04.34SupaplexI did that with apt-get long time ago, but it yelled something like 'If you are sure, type "Yes, I really mean it. Delete this critical package." verbaitm.'
07:05.10bonez44mmm
07:08.51vontrappit wasn't about removing a critical package, iirc
07:09.10vontrappit just put me in a state of dependency hell
07:09.43Supaplexwell that's all in the past, and I'm sure we won't guess any better now anyway.
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07:47.31sontekis there a way to check what clients got a dhcp address from openwrt?
07:50.24Supaplexls /tmp/dhcp*
07:52.14sontekyeah, I found it, thanks =)
07:52.31Supaplexnp
09:50.15Supaplex*hiccup*
09:51.17Sargun-stab-
09:51.33Supaplex~vomit Sargun
09:51.42Supaplex:l
09:54.07Sargunhehe
09:54.10SargunSupaplex, what are you upto
09:54.36Supaplexinsomnia or something
09:55.10Supaplexhumm.. creping up on 4am.
10:02.44Sargunoh
10:02.48Sargunwell what are you doing
10:06.37SupaplexI was chatting with a few friends, helping some people on #debian, #openwrt, #debian-live etc. but now, I'm going to bed. (now that my teeth are brushed.)
10:06.41Supaplexlaters :)
10:08.42Sargunlater
10:08.43Sargunbye
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22:34.43bracthey are actually filled with books and programming projects have been stagnant for a couple hundred Megs of photos and blogs, but no ones heard of, the probability of rolling either a cell phone company to get confused as to how he can do impure things, but you have a
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23:07.55bracelg had
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23:08.01bracelg is here, then go to open them....
23:11.42sontek-chat about Sargun
23:11.42bracSargun was getting gas in my front tooth again
23:11.53Sarguno.O
23:12.00sontekhaha
23:51.08Supaplexnow the truth gets out

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