| 00:01.04 | levi | Did you see if you've got ACM and IEEE access at your library? |
| 00:01.18 | elg | i couldn't make heads or tails of their article page |
| 00:01.22 | elg | but it looks like maybe so |
| 00:01.33 | levi | I would be very surprised if they didn't. |
| 00:01.38 | levi | I mean, UVSC has them. |
| 00:01.45 | elg | I know some places I can get articles if I'm on campus |
| 00:01.52 | elg | I don't remember if IEEE is one of them, it might be |
| 00:02.01 | elg | but acm isn't. I might be able to go through some kind of portal though |
| 00:02.11 | elg | http://lib.nmsu.edu/article.shtml |
| 00:02.12 | brac | [NMSU Library: Find Articles] |
| 00:02.30 | elg | clicking on any of those indexes just takes me to the article. (haven't looked at the form source, maybe it does something funny) |
| 00:02.34 | elg | er, to the index |
| 00:05.00 | elg | here's a funky thing. the other day my desktop started asking me for a password when I ssh in. authorized_keys hasn't changed, and my key-based auth still works for my server and other such computers |
| 00:05.10 | levi | Odd. |
| 00:05.28 | elg | it *might* have had an upgrade of a package here or there (my wife might have clicked through the ubuntu updater thingy) |
| 00:05.35 | elg | or it might just have decided it hates me |
| 00:05.50 | elg | it wouldn't have upgraded past feisty though |
| 00:06.32 | beandog | or you just got pwned |
| 00:06.33 | beandog | :) |
| 00:07.09 | elg | heh |
| 00:07.27 | elg | i'd be pwned by a loser then. rule number one of pwning is not to muddy the water |
| 00:07.52 | levi | elg: How many non-losers would bother pwning you? |
| 00:08.06 | elg | only ibot |
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| 00:16.30 | elg | atoponce: are you aware of any reason why upgrading something in feisty (i.e. security updates) would cause ssh key auth (RSA) to stop working? |
| 00:17.05 | elg | make that RSA and DSA |
| 00:17.23 | Tene | elg: checked /var/log/secure on both ends? |
| 00:18.34 | elg | looks like ubuntu don't have one |
| 00:19.27 | elg | auth.log |
| 00:19.53 | elg | ah hah. it's refusing based on the ownership of my home directory. 775 |
| 00:20.19 | elg | this is no doubt a change in policy somewhere. I don't want it to refuse because I'm perfectly happy with that security |
| 00:21.23 | Tene | what are the perms on ~/.ssh ? |
| 00:21.42 | elg | 700 |
| 00:25.27 | elg | strictmodes no works |
| 00:25.39 | elg | but I'd rather it continue to check ~/.ssh |
| 00:25.45 | elg | and leave me be about my home directory |
| 00:25.50 | elg | or allow me to permit 775 |
| 00:26.02 | elg | looks like 755 is what it's looking for |
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| 00:44.26 | brac | lala Sargun |
| 00:44.27 | Sargun | o.O |
| 00:44.36 | Sargun | I wonder who added my onjoin |
| 00:44.40 | Sargun | ~help onjoin |
| 00:44.51 | Sargun | ~onjoin -Sargun |
| 00:44.51 | ibot | ok, Sargun |
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| 00:44.58 | Sargun | tada. |
| 00:45.08 | Sargun | hello |
| 00:46.05 | Sargun | Why does the creepy conductor wear leather gloves. |
| 00:46.21 | Sargun | and the Odd Fare enforcement officer |
| 00:46.28 | Sargun | shakes everyone's hands |
| 00:46.31 | Sargun | (annoying) |
| 00:46.53 | nick125 | I hate dealing with colo providers. |
| 00:47.02 | Sargun | Oh, what are you doing? |
| 00:47.23 | Sargun | Eating someone? |
| 00:47.28 | nick125 | helping someone out who wants to start a hosting business |
| 00:47.59 | Sargun | Oh. |
| 00:48.05 | nick125 | And I swore that I would never think of the hosting industry ever again. |
| 00:48.06 | Sargun | Help me help them. |
| 00:48.11 | Sargun | :-P |
| 00:48.11 | nick125 | lol |
| 00:48.27 | Sargun | haha |
| 00:48.31 | Sargun | What are they doing |
| 00:48.35 | Sargun | add them a root2 account |
| 00:48.41 | Sargun | It would help. |
| 00:48.51 | Sargun | I promise. |
| 00:48.51 | Sargun | :-P |
| 00:48.53 | nick125 | haha |
| 00:49.18 | nick125 | I'm helping him try out virtualization stuff. |
| 00:49.34 | Sargun | oh |
| 00:49.37 | nick125 | :D |
| 00:49.40 | Sargun | Tell him "good luck" |
| 00:49.55 | nick125 | haha |
| 00:50.09 | Sargun | Oh, and "you are f--k-d' |
| 00:50.09 | Sargun | ' |
| 00:50.22 | nick125 | his first mistake was thinking he could do it on his comcast business line with 5 static IPs. |
| 00:50.43 | Sargun | Oh |
| 00:50.47 | Sargun | Uh |
| 00:50.53 | Sargun | Tell him not to even try. |
| 00:51.23 | nick125 | That's the same thing I said. |
| 00:51.23 | nick125 | Well...more like |
| 00:51.27 | nick125 | "Uhh...well, you are using 4 out of 5 IPs, do you really think you can give your customers IPs?" |
| 00:51.35 | Sargun | Tell him to find a large tall building |
| 00:51.37 | Sargun | and jump off it. |
| 00:51.45 | Sargun | Or tell him to find a large pit |
| 00:52.05 | Sargun | and if he can't find one tell him to dig a cylindrical hole |
| 00:52.11 | Sargun | 15 feet deep |
| 00:52.27 | Sargun | and with a 5 foot diameter |
| 00:52.35 | Sargun | and tell him to bring a bunch concrete |
| 00:52.46 | Sargun | and get a water tube |
| 00:52.53 | nick125 | He's looking into colo facilities. |
| 00:53.03 | Sargun | put the concrete mix (powder) into the hole |
| 00:53.07 | Sargun | and activate the water |
| 00:53.10 | nick125 | After my yelling at him :P |
| 00:53.12 | Sargun | and pour it into the hole |
| 00:53.19 | Sargun | and tie your servers to your feet |
| 00:53.23 | Sargun | and hop into the hole. |
| 00:54.10 | nick125 | hahaha |
| 00:54.13 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 00:54.13 | ibot | pong |
| 00:54.24 | vontrapp | mix a tub of concrete, build a syphon apparatus, start the syphon and jump in the hole |
| 00:55.38 | nick125 | I emailed layer42, and they want $125/mbit overage with a 1mbit commit. Jesus. |
| 00:57.08 | Sargun | he.net? |
| 00:57.08 | Sargun | nlayer |
| 00:57.09 | Sargun | Equinix :-P |
| 00:57.28 | Sargun | Equinix :-P < << < < < < < < DO NOT USE THEM. |
| 00:57.31 | nick125 | I wouldn't touch he.net with a ten foot pole. Or a pole the distance from NM to their datacenter. |
| 00:58.21 | nick125 | I still remember that one time you called them. |
| 00:59.07 | nick125 | "80,000 boxes?" |
| 00:59.13 | Sargun | Why? |
| 00:59.29 | Sargun | I have yet to have a huge problem with them |
| 00:59.43 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 00:59.44 | ibot | pong |
| 00:59.45 | nick125 | Their network is good, but their direct prices suck for small commits. |
| 01:02.07 | Sargun | Hahaha |
| 01:02.07 | Sargun | I remember that |
| 01:02.08 | Sargun | that was hilarious |
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| 01:03.37 | nick125 | It's only funny until you actually need to get something done. Then it becomes a pain in the rear. |
| 01:03.44 | nick125 | Sargun: I would've started cracking up on the phone if I was you. |
| 01:04.05 | Sargun | I wanted to |
| 01:04.18 | Sargun | vr.org |
| 01:04.45 | nick125 | You mean Net Actuate? |
| 01:06.05 | Sargun | No |
| 01:06.08 | Sargun | VR.org does net actuate |
| 01:06.23 | Sargun | http://www.netactuate.com/ is the colo |
| 01:06.29 | Sargun | vr.org is VMs |
| 01:06.59 | nick125 | I believe Net Actuate is their colo, VR.org is VPS, and crossconnect.net is their crossconnect division. |
| 01:07.11 | Sargun | ohaHAHAHAAHAH |
| 01:07.18 | Sargun | http://www.tek.net/ |
| 01:07.53 | nick125 | 1U of space and 128kbit of bandwidth for $99? Thanks, but no thanks. |
| 01:08.35 | nick125 | And $972/mbit overages? No thanks. |
| 01:08.52 | Sargun | 100 GB |
| 01:08.56 | Sargun | er |
| 01:08.58 | Sargun | 1 TB |
| 01:09.02 | Sargun | for er |
| 01:09.03 | Sargun | 1 Tb |
| 01:09.06 | Sargun | for 99 |
| 01:09.21 | nick125 | WTF are you looking at? |
| 01:11.03 | Sargun | http://www.netactuate.com/ |
| 01:11.08 | Sargun | Get Colocated |
| 01:11.08 | Sargun | 1u, 1000gb transfer, Remote Reboots. $99/mo |
| 01:11.09 | Sargun | Get Colocated |
| 01:11.09 | Sargun | 1u, 1000gb transfer, Remote Reboots. $99/mo |
| 01:11.16 | Sargun | Atak. |
| 01:11.32 | nick125 | oh god. No. |
| 01:11.39 | Sargun | why? |
| 01:11.43 | nick125 | I was talking about tek.net on the $972/mbit overages. |
| 01:11.46 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.47 | Sargun | Oh |
| 01:12.02 | Sargun | Where is this guy? |
| 01:12.21 | nick125 | Sargun: gentoo-chat, he appears to be not alive atm though |
| 01:13.55 | nick125 | He was supposed to be up at 3-4pm, but, no such luck at the moment. |
| 01:16.39 | nick125 | why? |
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| 01:18.29 | xbmodder_ | Dogs! |
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| 01:19.37 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
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| 01:26.49 | xbmodder__ | nick125, Can I call thine? |
| 01:26.57 | xbmodder__ | you |
| 01:26.58 | xbmodder__ | can I call you |
| 01:27.28 | xbmodder__ | ping |
| 01:27.31 | xbmodder__ | nick125, |
| 01:28.14 | nick125 | xbmodder_: sure |
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| 02:14.17 | atoponce | elg: i'm not, but it looks like you figured it out |
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| 02:41.04 | elg | cured the symptoms anyway |
| 02:55.51 | Sargun | el? |
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| 03:06.37 | vontrapp | http://www.canyonsworldwide.org/crystals/mainframe3.html |
| 03:08.15 | Sargun | OMG the flaming lips. |
| 03:08.15 | Sargun | ! |
| 03:08.27 | Sargun | Yoshima battles the pink robots |
| 03:08.32 | Sargun | on Land rover commercials |
| 03:22.26 | wps | SVN isn't respective one of my global-ignores entires |
| 03:22.28 | wps | any ideas? |
| 03:22.56 | Tene | wps: you should be using git, obviously. |
| 03:23.06 | wps | git? |
| 03:23.13 | Tene | Yep. |
| 03:23.19 | wps | ~google git |
| 03:23.20 | Tene | All the cool kids use git these days. |
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| 03:26.31 | Tene | right, fozz? |
| 03:26.33 | Sargun | fozzmoo, its a fozzmoo |
| 03:26.39 | fozzmoo | It is indeed. |
| 03:27.11 | fozzmoo | Despite the fact I'm kinda tired... I added a CPU to my server and 2 500G drives. |
| 03:27.18 | fozzmoo | I'm guessing I'll probably get that new LCD tomorrow. |
| 03:30.48 | Sargun | Why didn't you add two CPUs? |
| 03:31.12 | fozzmoo | Sargun: It's only a dual CPU board. |
| 03:31.21 | Sargun | dual core |
| 03:31.22 | fozzmoo | Already had one Opteron. |
| 03:31.27 | fozzmoo | I'd have to replace both CPUs. |
| 03:31.32 | Sargun | Triple core. |
| 03:31.42 | fozzmoo | I'll triple core you, Sargun. |
| 03:31.47 | Sargun | Those AMD marketing people must have an infinite amount of crack |
| 03:31.49 | Sargun | in their systems |
| 03:32.09 | Sargun | concentration is given by "a/b" |
| 03:32.14 | Sargun | Where B is the amount of human |
| 03:32.20 | Sargun | and a is the amount of crack |
| 03:32.33 | Sargun | AMD marketing people have no human |
| 03:32.41 | fozzmoo | ?? |
| 03:36.24 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo: !!!! |
| 03:37.14 | Tene | ‽‽‽ |
| 03:37.24 | Sargun | $$$ |
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| 03:47.42 | Supaplex | decriptor: home at last? :) |
| 03:53.34 | decriptor | Supaplex: yup |
| 03:54.04 | decriptor | all in a 12+ hour day |
| 04:04.00 | Supaplex | crazy. |
| 04:04.10 | Supaplex | i'm tired just thinking about it. |
| 04:08.15 | decriptor | you telling me |
| 04:08.33 | decriptor | I was at class by 8 and home after 9 tonight |
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| 04:12.11 | Sargun | fozzmoo, hello? |
| 04:27.53 | sontek | Supaplex: whats that |
| 04:28.23 | Supaplex | if you echo a char into it, it's like pressing sysrq+alt+<that> at the console |
| 04:28.47 | Supaplex | it's handy when... init is a little dain brammaged. |
| 04:47.48 | vontrapp | how do you open an iostream with a file descriptor? |
| 04:48.28 | vontrapp | or rather, create one |
| 04:49.38 | Supaplex | fopen (3) - stream open functions |
| 04:50.06 | vontrapp | is that gives you FILE*, not iostream |
| 04:50.30 | Supaplex | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.37 | Supaplex | uhmm... ok. |
| 05:30.45 | kreg | well that explains it.... |
| 05:30.51 | kreg | it was only a 4mb flash the whole time |
| 06:29.37 | vontrapp | arg! i even set SO_REUSEADDR and i still get bind: Address already in use |
| 06:29.51 | vontrapp | i close the socket, really i do |
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| 07:15.14 | Lakshmi | Supaplex: what are u looking for? |
| 07:15.37 | Supaplex | dunno |
| 07:17.50 | Lakshmi | oh |
| 07:17.56 | Lakshmi | maybe signs of life? |
| 07:18.35 | Supaplex | mmmm yeah, I guess. :) |
| 07:18.41 | Supaplex | how are you anyhow? |
| 07:19.30 | Lakshmi | mm studying |
| 07:19.34 | Lakshmi | attempting to cram |
| 07:19.42 | Lakshmi | like 12 lectures |
| 07:19.45 | Lakshmi | in my brain |
| 07:20.10 | Lakshmi | and wondering where sargun ran off to |
| 07:20.12 | Supaplex | oh, that's where all these meal worms I stepped on in here are from |
| 07:20.14 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 07:20.28 | Lakshmi | oh hehe |
| 07:20.34 | Supaplex | well. not fun I guess. :P good luck |
| 07:22.46 | Supaplex | I think I'll reheat some foodies and hit the sack, again. |
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| 09:59.32 | Sargun | Anyone awake yet? |
| 12:38.31 | fozzmoo | ME |
| 13:47.18 | elg | -chat |
| 13:47.22 | elg | bye brac |
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| 14:19.44 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 14:19.44 | ibot | squeezes elg till elg turns blue like papa smurf |
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| 15:08.12 | maquis | elg: you killed brac? |
| 15:09.34 | elg | looks that way |
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| 15:35.18 | ^Migs^ | who the heck uses Excel to create a meeting agenda? |
| 15:35.54 | elg | millions of dolts throughout the known universe |
| 15:36.55 | synic | elg: how did your upgrade go? |
| 15:37.47 | elg | didn't do it yet |
| 15:37.55 | elg | turned out not to be necessary quite yet |
| 15:37.55 | synic | ah. |
| 15:40.35 | maquis | ^Migs^: i wish i could say that it surprises me |
| 15:40.37 | maquis | but it doesn't |
| 15:40.47 | maquis | people are constantly using the wrong tool for the job |
| 15:40.56 | maquis | my mom was using word for handling the budget for years |
| 15:41.56 | elg | ~hammer Jayce^ |
| 15:43.09 | Jayce^ | can't touch this.. |
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| 15:52.25 | elg | ~touch Jayce^ |
| 15:52.25 | ibot | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 15:55.07 | levi | So tired. |
| 15:55.18 | elg | up partying all night? |
| 15:55.30 | levi | Up doing homework too many nights in a row. |
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| 15:56.18 | maquis | levi: sure... we know you were really up partying |
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| 16:08.20 | Jayce^ | elg, just got my mom's old "magic mill"... time for a lot more bread.. |
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| 16:14.07 | findlay-w | ~lala Sargun |
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| 16:32.03 | brac | sjansen is shocked and awed. |
| 16:32.41 | shadowwire | -chat ~lart ibot |
| 16:32.42 | brac | ~lart ibot for returning ugly wiki code |
| 16:32.42 | ibot | hauls brac up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles for returning ugly wiki code |
| 16:33.28 | shadowwire | -where is shadowwire |
| 16:33.29 | brac | alright |
| 16:33.44 | shadowwire | alwrong. |
| 16:34.39 | sjansen | -chat shadowwire has hair |
| 16:34.43 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 16:36.02 | shadowwire | Hows school sjansen? |
| 16:39.05 | levi | Interesting, if not terribly relevant, measure of language complexity: http://iolanguage.com/about/simplicity/ |
| 16:39.09 | brac | [io - about - simplicity] |
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| 16:52.29 | findlay-w | io is very volcanic |
| 16:54.50 | shadowwire | europa may posibly have water ice under the surface. |
| 16:55.02 | shadowwire | I c |
| 16:55.16 | sjansen | School? I'm too cool for school. |
| 16:55.22 | shadowwire | oh. |
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| 16:55.58 | shadowwire | Migs, look out! bandits at 2 o' clock! |
| 16:56.06 | ^Migs^ | ZOMGWHERE? |
| 16:57.41 | shadowwire | 2 marks at 3 5 |
| 17:00.24 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/991e/ |
| 17:00.30 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: Wi-Fi Detector Shirt] |
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| 17:05.23 | nick125 | w00t, my barcode scanner arrived |
| 17:06.58 | elg | Jayce^: mmm, fun |
| 17:08.18 | elg | ~scan nick125 |
| 17:10.32 | shadowwire | -chat where is |
| 17:10.32 | brac | where is a nice man |
| 17:11.08 | shadowwire | ~chat what is |
| 17:11.29 | shadowwire | -chat ~lart himself |
| 17:11.30 | brac | ~lart himself |
| 17:11.30 | ibot | eats himself's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 17:14.14 | markl_ | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 17:14.14 | ibot | cuts Jayce^ into thin stripes |
| 17:14.18 | elg | only 6 papers and 3 phd dissertations to go |
| 17:14.47 | maquis | elg: wow... that's exciting |
| 17:15.30 | elg | today was the original goal, but I can still pull off next thursday |
| 17:18.14 | fozzmoo | 3.2TB of uncompressed tape backup capacity! |
| 17:18.21 | Tene | That's a lot of bits! |
| 17:18.35 | Tene | What are you going to store on it? |
| 17:18.37 | fozzmoo | yep. |
| 17:18.46 | fozzmoo | Tene: The Mako. |
| 17:18.53 | Tene | Ahh. |
| 17:18.56 | elg | the mexico? |
| 17:19.03 | maquis | wow... 3.2 TB? |
| 17:22.10 | shadowwire | Your going to store new mexico on a tape drive? |
| 17:22.17 | shadowwire | neat. |
| 17:23.43 | ^Migs^ | you have to do multiple dissertations? |
| 17:24.24 | Jayce^ | ~lart markl_ |
| 17:24.24 | ibot | blasts markl_ with a huge firehose then strangles markl_ with it |
| 17:24.55 | shadowwire | ~lart larters |
| 17:24.55 | ibot | installs a bad bootloader on larters and turns larters into a brick |
| 17:26.42 | shadowwire | theres only two thing I cant stand. People who arent tollerant of other peoples programing preference, and Pearl programers. |
| 17:27.22 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 17:27.26 | ^Migs^ | s/Pearl/Perl |
| 17:27.28 | Tene | shadowwire: and what about people who can't spell 'Perl'? |
| 17:27.40 | shadowwire | I hate them too. |
| 17:27.43 | ^Migs^ | yeah, your misspelling ruined your joke |
| 17:27.56 | shadowwire | ~lart me |
| 17:27.56 | ibot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs shadowwire |
| 17:30.21 | ^Migs^ | ~lart you |
| 17:30.21 | ibot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on ^migs^ |
| 17:31.13 | shadowwire | that nuke ruined your joke. and probably your day. :) |
| 17:33.27 | ^Migs^ | yeah, nukes tend to have that effect on me |
| 17:33.43 | ^Migs^ | at least you had the sense to use an exploding nuke as opposed to a non-exploding nuke |
| 17:39.50 | shadowwire | there are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who dont. |
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| 17:44.11 | nick125 | Now only if I could find a way to get some data from the scanner to test....hrm |
| 17:49.40 | tensai | nick125: scan your butt? |
| 17:49.53 | nick125 | tensai: No, I can't figure out how to pull data from the device |
| 17:53.16 | nick125 | I tried using linbar, but that didn't work |
| 17:56.28 | levi | Hah. |
| 17:56.47 | levi | So you bought a scanner without knowing if there was software to support it? |
| 17:58.44 | shadowwire | Try tortureing it. |
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| 18:00.06 | shadowwire | oldsome? |
| 18:00.23 | Newsome | nope |
| 18:00.30 | Newsome | just the new stuff |
| 18:00.40 | shadowwire | fiar enuph. |
| 18:07.33 | nick125 | no, I know software exists for it, I just don't know where. |
| 18:10.50 | shadowwire | What type of scanner? |
| 18:11.09 | nick125 | Symbol LS1902 |
| 18:13.07 | nick125 | Yay, I'm getting data from it in pyserial |
| 18:13.26 | shadowwire | It should have come with a manual with barcodes in it for setting it up. |
| 18:13.42 | shadowwire | you scan the barcodes to program it. |
| 18:13.53 | nick125 | I bought it used. |
| 18:15.37 | shadowwire | http://www.guardit.cn/UploadFiles/symbol_ls1900_engmanual.pdf |
| 18:15.50 | elg | usb? |
| 18:15.56 | nick125 | elg: serial |
| 18:16.09 | shadowwire | ew. |
| 18:16.39 | elg | ah well then it doesn't take any drivers |
| 18:16.47 | elg | it just takes a program that knows what to do with it |
| 18:17.20 | nick125 | elg: Which is the part I'm working on. |
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| 18:18.04 | shadowwire | It should be able to write to any text editor just like keyboard input |
| 18:18.13 | shadowwire | read chapter 4 |
| 18:19.02 | nick125 | I heard someone tried setting a symbol scanner up as a xorg HID device, and it didn't work right. |
| 18:19.19 | shadowwire | I wouldnt be suprised. |
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| 18:20.42 | shadowwire | so its working you just cant get input from it? |
| 18:21.33 | shadowwire | if so, scan the "set all defaults" barcode non page 4-10. |
| 18:27.48 | nick125 | I'm getting stuff over the serial port |
| 18:27.50 | vontrapp | where does pidgin keep it's logs? |
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| 18:30.34 | Tene | vontrapp: .gaim/logs/ |
| 18:33.31 | shadowwire | nick125: is it working? |
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| 18:34.50 | fozzmoo | Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are |
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| 18:39.27 | elg | -cha |
| 18:39.28 | elg | -chat |
| 18:39.30 | brac | I guess that's what neural nets are for. |
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| 18:40.37 | vontrapp | grr, my poll() works erratically |
| 18:41.07 | vontrapp | i'll run the program once, and try to initiate connections and it just ignores them |
| 18:41.55 | vontrapp | i'll run it another time and instead of ignoring it goes into some kind of spin-lock and my cpu goes crazy |
| 18:41.55 | vontrapp | and then other times, it just works |
| 18:42.11 | elg | sounds like race condition |
| 18:42.26 | vontrapp | but who's racing? |
| 18:42.46 | vontrapp | i set up the socket, set the options and all that all in one thread |
| 18:45.27 | vontrapp | the only other threads are consumers on a producer consumer queue |
| 18:49.01 | vontrapp | and the whole reason i went with polling was to maybe close the socket a little cleaner to not get Address already in use |
| 18:49.06 | vontrapp | guess what, i STILL GET IT |
| 18:51.34 | vontrapp | hit elg with it |
| 18:52.22 | nick125 | I put the battery on the charger, it says it's fully charged, put it in the drill, put in four screws into a .75" piece of wood and it's almost dead again |
| 18:53.29 | levi | vontrapp: Well, if you kill your process without closing your sockets... |
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| 18:54.04 | linuxalien | Hey hippies! |
| 18:54.07 | linuxalien | ;) |
| 18:54.09 | vontrapp | i have signal handlers |
| 18:54.19 | vontrapp | and the polling allows me to not interrupt the accept call |
| 18:54.31 | vontrapp | everything closes down nicely, i even join on the threads |
| 18:54.38 | vontrapp | and it STILL gives me that error sometimes |
| 18:55.05 | levi | Perhaps there are still some sockets in the kernel in CLOSE_WAIT state? |
| 18:55.50 | vontrapp | but why? |
| 18:55.54 | vontrapp | i close ALL of them |
| 18:56.00 | vontrapp | and i use SO_REUSEADDR |
| 19:00.08 | elg | unfortunately, vontrapp, this sort of thing really needs a C networking guru watching over your shoulder, with a code printout |
| 19:01.08 | levi | I've dealt with that stuff before, but long enough ago that I've repressed the details. |
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| 19:20.47 | Sargun | use select() |
| 19:33.23 | tensai | what would cause a network card to show as "UP" but still not talk on the network |
| 19:33.33 | tensai | it was working just fine a few hours ago, but now it's broken |
| 19:33.59 | Tene | tensai: did the token fall out? |
| 19:35.02 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.02 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.22 | sjansen | tensai: Is it plugged in? |
| 19:42.51 | sjansen | tensai: Have you seen any co-workers walking around carrying an etherkiller recently? |
| 19:43.30 | sjansen | sjansen: Have you been gnawing on cables while bored again? |
| 19:43.48 | sjansen | Uhm... err.. well, you see... |
| 19:47.17 | Sargun | heh |
| 19:47.33 | tensai | sjansen: we reseated the cable and the switch shows a link light |
| 19:48.08 | ^Migs^ | rebellious network cards |
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| 19:51.08 | Tene | tensai: you need ethtool -p |
| 19:51.18 | Sargun | rm -rf $CARD |
| 19:51.58 | tensai | Tene: Cannot identify NIC: No such device |
| 19:52.49 | tensai | oh, wait. you have to specify the interface |
| 19:53.04 | tensai | well even such, I get "Opertation not supported" |
| 19:53.31 | Tene | You should get new nics so that you can use ethtool -p |
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| 19:54.01 | sjansen | mii-tool for old NICs |
| 19:54.11 | sjansen | Buy a decent NIC you cheapskate. |
| 19:55.38 | tensai | it's what was in the box. give me a break. |
| 19:56.25 | tensai | wow. opennms is a memory hog. |
| 20:00.57 | sjansen | ~give tensai a break |
| 20:00.58 | ibot | ACTION gives a break to tensai |
| 20:01.05 | sjansen | ~break tensai |
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| 20:03.13 | sjansen | ~moo |
| 20:03.14 | ibot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 20:03.22 | fozzmo1 | What is that magic comments module for Perl that Damian Conway wrote? |
| 20:03.39 | fozzmo1 | Smart::Comments? |
| 20:03.48 | fozzmo1 | Yeah. That's it. |
| 20:04.24 | Sargun | tensai, you're a memory hog. |
| 20:04.31 | elg | ~abort |
| 20:04.32 | ibot | ACTION segfaults |
| 20:05.20 | Tene | Smart::Comments is awesome. |
| 20:05.33 | Tene | fozzmo1: you get to use perl for something again? yay. |
| 20:05.36 | fozzmo1 | yeah, it is. I don't know why I couldb't remember the name. |
| 20:06.09 | fozzmoo | I've still got to maintain all Iodynamics' customer's stuff.;) |
| 20:06.18 | Tene | I had trouble remembering Scalar::Defer the other day. |
| 20:08.57 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Maybe you should fake your own death. |
| 20:09.20 | Supaplex | -eat fozzmoo |
| 20:09.23 | sjansen | Or tell them you've changed your mind about Linux. You've decided to move everything to OS/2. |
| 20:13.42 | Sargun | FreeDOS? |
| 20:13.50 | Sargun | Is FreeDOS and DOS binary compatible? |
| 20:14.08 | Supaplex | they should be |
| 20:15.16 | Supaplex | and then the're caldera open dos. same code base msdos,drdos,novelldos,ibmdos etc same from at some point (iirc) |
| 20:17.52 | tensai | k. so mii-tool says it's 100/full |
| 20:18.30 | sjansen | ~invoice tensai |
| 20:18.37 | tensai | but there is no ARP response from a machine on the same switch |
| 20:18.41 | tensai | there aren't any vlans active. |
| 20:19.14 | Sargun | use you-tool |
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| 20:23.39 | goozbach | fozzmoo: I just learned about a really cool testing module for perl |
| 20:23.46 | goozbach | Test::Critic |
| 20:24.00 | goozbach | and Test::Critic::Progressive |
| 20:24.17 | Tene | Yep. |
| 20:24.38 | Tene | Test::Kwalitee is nice |
| 20:24.58 | goozbach | oh my bad, it's Perl::Critic |
| 20:25.11 | goozbach | and Perl::Critic::Progressive |
| 20:25.44 | goozbach | the latter keeps you from making your code "worse" |
| 20:26.58 | Supaplex | tensai: does it have an ip? is bridging involved? is it firewalling anything? (arptables, iptables, ip6tables, and iirc abtables) |
| 20:27.03 | elg | i thought that was built into the language |
| 20:29.22 | elg | anyone got an old (aka cheap) mp3 player they want to sell me? |
| 20:29.42 | Supaplex | I have a 128mb one. uses one AAA battery. |
| 20:30.34 | Supaplex | works with any os. it's also a usb key |
| 20:30.58 | goozbach | fyi I was slightly wrong again, the first module is Perl::Critic |
| 20:31.04 | goozbach | the second is Test::Perl::Critic::Progressive |
| 20:31.15 | goozbach | http://search.cpan.org/~thaljef/Test-Perl-Critic-Progressive-0.02/lib/Test/Perl/Critic/Progressive.pm |
| 20:32.29 | sjansen | ~criticize goozbach |
| 20:32.49 | tensai | Supaplex: I had an mp3 player like that and loved it. great for podcasts. the flash got corrupted though. :( |
| 20:33.07 | Tene | tensai: should have kept it away from TV and the internet. |
| 20:33.22 | tensai | Supaplex: there is a firewall. no arptables (never heard of that before). there is an IP address assigned and it says it is UP. |
| 20:33.24 | elg | Supaplex: that sounds perfect |
| 20:33.34 | Supaplex | Tene: I think it was too close to the racy magazines ;) |
| 20:33.36 | tensai | no bridging |
| 20:34.00 | tensai | I wish I knew what corrupted it because then I would make sure not to do it again |
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| 20:35.18 | sjansen | Static electricity. |
| 20:35.31 | sjansen | My boss killed 2 cards in as many weeks in the dry UT air. |
| 20:36.36 | goozbach | sjansen: I think it was me rubbing my long hair on the wall near his ethernet jack that did it |
| 21:03.22 | fozzmoo | Perl::Critic is nice. |
| 21:03.38 | fozzmoo | It compares your stuff to the recommendations in Perl Best Practices |
| 21:04.43 | Supaplex | Jayce^: do we dare test ivan's code with it? |
| 21:04.52 | Supaplex | Perl::Critic :) |
| 21:05.10 | Jayce^ | Supaplex, hah.. no it wouldn't like several of his ways of doing things :) |
| 21:05.20 | Jayce^ | it is a cool tool though |
| 21:07.00 | Supaplex | Perl::Critic: warning: freeside/.... Too many multiline and multlevel maps. |
| 21:07.07 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 21:07.23 | Supaplex | most of those are gone now. thanks to you :)5 |
| 21:07.56 | Supaplex | that 5 was typed by a pen on my keyboard. odd |
| 21:08.27 | Jayce^ | freeside, where nested scwartzian transforms are the norm ;-p |
| 21:11.01 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.23 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.46 | Supaplex | jayce, it somewhat reminds me of the transaction I had at staples yesterday. I bought a pc barley 2 weeks ago (so I'm within my 14 day return window). I came back to refund and repurchase some software titles so they qualify for the rebate terms "on the same recepit" for pc's. |
| 21:12.50 | Supaplex | It took the manager eaisly 25 minutes to refactor all of that onto one recepit. 1 pc, 2 printers, 1 camera, 1 1gb sd card, 16 or 18 security and business software titles. software is free after rebate, but earns money on pc rebates, earns more money on compeitive rebates. |
| 21:13.35 | Supaplex | that's what happens in real life when code like that shows its head. :P no, it wasn't easy. but it'll be worth it after it earns some $300+ (I lost count after that) |
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| 21:25.27 | sargun-palm | hi |
| 21:25.43 | Supaplex | hello |
| 21:25.55 | sargun-palm | ~roulette |
| 21:25.55 | ibot | ACTION watches sargun-palm pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 21:26.12 | sargun-palm | :-( |
| 21:26.17 | sargun-palm | ~spin |
| 21:26.18 | ibot | spin is probably vi. Equivalent to buzz. More common among C and UNIX programmers. |
| 21:26.22 | sargun-palm | or not |
| 21:26.33 | sargun-palm | Supaplex, what's up? |
| 21:26.56 | Supaplex | last I checked, it's a two letter word indicating a relative direction |
| 21:27.07 | Supaplex | not much :) |
| 21:27.12 | sargun-palm | what's down? |
| 21:27.27 | Supaplex | ~quote scox |
| 21:27.36 | sargun-palm | haha |
| 21:27.37 | sargun-palm | wait |
| 21:27.42 | sargun-palm | +??? |
| 21:27.48 | sjansen | Good day for SCO! |
| 21:27.58 | Supaplex | it was 0.175 a few days ago |
| 21:28.29 | sargun-palm | It would have been good to purchase a few hundred million scox |
| 21:28.30 | Supaplex | I'd be $3.50 richer if I invested 100 shares then. |
| 21:28.51 | Supaplex | it's all play money until you cash out. |
| 21:29.01 | levi | http://lemonodor.com/archives/2007/10/youre_doing_it_wrong.html |
| 21:29.20 | sargun-palm | artificially influence the stock market |
| 21:29.29 | sargun-palm | get every slashdotter to buy 100 scox |
| 21:29.39 | sargun-palm | where is brac? |
| 21:29.53 | tensai | Supaplex: the commissions would kill you |
| 21:30.27 | Supaplex | yup.... |
| 21:32.01 | levi | sargun-palm: Gee, that's an original idea. You could even send out email to everyone you can find an address for with your text in a distorted gif to make sure it doesn't get marked as spam. |
| 21:32.02 | maquis | levi: you guys trying to tell me something? |
| 21:32.11 | maquis | my teammate just sent that picture to our team mailing list |
| 21:32.33 | levi | maquis: The picture is of John McCarthy, who invented Lisp. :) |
| 21:34.02 | levi | Before too long, Xach will have a web app that lets you generate images that look just like that from an uploaded picture. |
| 21:34.20 | maquis | levi: yeah... but it's kind-of disconcerting when i get links to pictures that say "you're doing it wrong" from 2 different people in 5 minutes |
| 21:34.41 | levi | maquis: It just showed up on Reddit. |
| 21:35.13 | levi | maquis: Moments after lemonodor asked Xach's permission to blog about it on #lisp |
| 21:36.43 | sargun-palm | team? |
| 21:37.04 | maquis | sargun-palm: ? |
| 21:37.08 | levi | sargun-palm: People with real jobs often work on teams. |
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| 21:38.52 | Supaplex | failed Apple product: iTeam |
| 21:38.55 | sargun-palm | we call them coworkers. not teammates at work. |
| 21:39.00 | sargun-palm | or 'engineers' |
| 21:39.54 | levi | sargun-palm: I hope it's not too difficult for you to imagine that different workplaces might use different terminology for the same thing. |
| 21:40.09 | levi | Sorry, I'm being snarky. |
| 21:40.21 | maquis | sargun-palm: well... i have a lot of coworkers... and there are a lot of engineers here |
| 21:40.27 | maquis | but not all of them are on the same team that i'm on |
| 21:40.48 | sargun-palm | levi: it isn't but team mate just seemed kinda out place In my very foggy mind. |
| 21:42.39 | levi | sargun-palm: teammate is a pretty common term for a person that's working on the same project as you within a multi-project organization. |
| 21:42.43 | sargun-palm | I'm tirreeeddd. |
| 21:44.03 | sargun-palm | levi: I think the reason why we don't use team mate is due to hostility, dysfunctionality, etc... |
| 21:44.30 | levi | You should find a better workplace, then. |
| 21:44.33 | sargun-palm | and we're so tightly integrated, even though we're working on different projects |
| 21:45.10 | sargun-palm | heh |
| 21:45.38 | sargun-palm | its difficult to find decent work at 16 |
| 21:46.14 | sargun-palm | especially in my speciality. |
| 21:46.26 | maquis | sargun-palm: work is much more fun when you can have fun with your coworkers :) |
| 21:46.42 | sargun-palm | heh |
| 21:47.23 | levi | sargun-palm: Well, at 16 you should be worried about school, not a job within your 'speciality'. |
| 21:47.48 | sargun-palm | you can't have much 'fun' when you have a half a million dollar contract which is due the week before christmas |
| 21:48.01 | sargun-palm | without a single line of code written :-) |
| 21:49.11 | sargun-palm | levi: heh, I'm still in school, still on the long journey to a bachelors (i think about 5 years) |
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| 21:50.47 | sargun-palm | hi fozzy. |
| 21:50.49 | sargun-palm | foz |
| 21:50.53 | sargun-palm | moe |
| 21:51.10 | levi | sargun-palm: You'll probably be happier in the long run if you don't have a high-stress, long-hours kind of job while in school. |
| 21:51.24 | levi | sargun-palm: Finishing quickly is a good thing. |
| 21:51.28 | levi | I wish I had finished quickly. |
| 21:52.31 | sargun-palm | well I'm being limited to like 16 credits |
| 21:52.39 | sargun-palm | a semester |
| 21:52.43 | levi | Why's that? |
| 21:53.12 | fozzmoo | http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/48564;_ylt=AgdQM1qUNtAAG6QeG1WEajm7YWsA |
| 21:53.14 | sargun-palm | the way igetc (the program I'm in) is built |
| 21:53.57 | sargun-palm | its not long hour |
| 21:53.57 | sargun-palm | hours |
| 21:54.01 | sargun-palm | not high stress |
| 21:54.20 | sargun-palm | the company is just uh in an interesting place |
| 21:54.26 | levi | What's igetc? |
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| 21:59.39 | sargun-palm | I'm back! |
| 22:00.43 | sargun-palm | guess who is back? |
| 22:01.11 | Supaplex | depends on whos back it is |
| 22:01.40 | fozzmoo | I'm front. |
| 22:01.40 | sargun-palm | jon's |
| 22:01.46 | elg | haha, stupid paypal |
| 22:01.57 | Supaplex | ~lart paypal |
| 22:01.57 | ibot | rm -rf's paypal |
| 22:02.13 | elg | me, on the phone "hi, answer these 20 questions so I know who you are. (asks for bank account)" |
| 22:02.25 | elg | I give the bank account number |
| 22:03.01 | elg | later, when we're trying to figure out why their stupid website won't give me my password when I give it my bank account, I start to read it off to her and she's like "no, don't tell me! I'm not supposed to get your bank account!" |
| 22:03.07 | elg | uh, ok |
| 22:03.08 | sargun-palm | how much does a .edu domain cost |
| 22:03.21 | elg | sargun-palm: the question is can you get one |
| 22:03.40 | sargun-palm | and how do you qualify for one? |
| 22:03.49 | elg | by being an educational institution, probably |
| 22:04.11 | sargun-palm | yeah, like do you have to be a publically funded accredited insitution of education? |
| 22:04.34 | Supaplex | http://www.educause.edu/edudomain/request.asp |
| 22:04.35 | brac | [Request a new .edu domain] |
| 22:05.25 | thaddeusq | sargun-palm: It must be a postsecondary institution accredited by an agency on the U.S. Department of Education's list of Nationally Recognized Accrediting Agencies |
| 22:06.21 | sargun-palm | hm. I want a new tld |
| 22:06.46 | Supaplex | sure, just pollute the tld namespace. |
| 22:07.03 | sargun-palm | is the utah sld? |
| 22:07.13 | tensai | sargun-palm: just start your own alternate root and you can have all the tlds you want |
| 22:08.31 | thaddeusq | sargun-palm: What new tld do you want? |
| 22:08.40 | elg | .sarg |
| 22:09.04 | thaddeusq | sargun-palm: and the purpose would be? |
| 22:09.17 | sargun-palm | I was thinking about .sarg, but .gun would be better |
| 22:09.24 | sargun-palm | .xxx |
| 22:09.47 | sargun-palm | I'm a proponent of .xxx |
| 22:10.10 | sargun-palm | make domain registration more expensive for .xxx |
| 22:10.24 | Tene | thaddeusq: however, I know of a few people that have had .edu domains for years and aren't educational institutions at all. |
| 22:10.29 | sargun-palm | and give it to three registrars |
| 22:10.38 | sargun-palm | and charge them a load |
| 22:10.43 | Tene | sargun-palm: and charge more for http access to hosts in .xxx |
| 22:10.56 | sargun-palm | tene: exactly! |
| 22:11.24 | thaddeusq | Tene: that may be the case, but, they probably had their domains before educause became the only registrar for .edu |
| 22:11.46 | Supaplex | charging for dns referrals would be eaiser. :) |
| 22:11.47 | sargun-palm | 3x more for http |
| 22:11.52 | sargun-palm | 5x more for ftp |
| 22:12.06 | sargun-palm | and 10x more for nntp |
| 22:12.39 | sargun-palm | and every hit would be 1 TU. |
| 22:13.00 | sargun-palm | TUs would be sold and bought between nameservers |
| 22:13.25 | sargun-palm | and then they'd be sold to the end user at a large markup |
| 22:13.48 | sargun-palm | until one NS monopolizes |
| 22:14.09 | sargun-palm | and then several tiny rogue nses would spawn |
| 22:14.21 | sargun-palm | and they'd use open dns |
| 22:14.38 | sargun-palm | excuse my insanity :-) |
| 22:14.42 | sargun-palm | ~ping |
| 22:14.42 | ibot | pong |
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| 22:15.38 | sargun-palm | it'd just work™ |
| 22:15.40 | Kemotaha | any body a big udev rules guru? |
| 22:15.48 | sargun-palm | ~time |
| 22:15.48 | ibot | time is, like, 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2007.10.11 22:15:48 GMT |
| 22:16.05 | Supaplex | ~stardate |
| 22:16.32 | Supaplex | Kemotaha: you might not need a highly skilled udev guru. what's the question? |
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| 22:17.05 | Kemotaha | I have a udev rule that I am putting on a CentOS 5 box. It is not picking it up, So I created a really simple one |
| 22:17.08 | Kemotaha | Still no go |
| 22:17.21 | Kemotaha | I am running Xen on the box but I wouldn't think that would affect it |
| 22:17.32 | Supaplex | what are you trying to do with it? |
| 22:17.41 | Supaplex | (udev+this rule) |
| 22:17.41 | Kemotaha | symlink a usbkey |
| 22:18.05 | Jayce^ | Kemotaha, can't do it yourself 'eh :-p |
| 22:18.10 | Kemotaha | Here is the simple one: |
| 22:18.19 | Kemotaha | KERNEL=="/dev/sdb", NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbkey2" |
| 22:18.25 | sargun-palm | don't, give up. resistance is futile |
| 22:18.33 | Kemotaha | Jayce^, I am doing this for you so I don't want your smack :) |
| 22:18.49 | sargun-palm | ha |
| 22:19.01 | Jayce^ | along the lines of what Kemotaha is trying to do |
| 22:19.09 | sargun-palm | who here is still a guru? |
| 22:19.23 | Kemotaha | I have done this on RHEL5 and it worked but I wasn't running a XEN kernel |
| 22:19.48 | sargun-palm | why is mheath and my girlfriend banned from this channel? |
| 22:20.10 | tensai | why are you dating mheath? |
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| 22:21.19 | sargun-palm | tensai: because I find military men attractive |
| 22:21.19 | sargun-palm | :-P |
| 22:21.19 | sargun-palm | why isn't brac working |
| 22:21.19 | sargun-palm | -yousuck |
| 22:21.19 | sargun-palm | -lart tensai |
| 22:21.29 | sargun-palm | finally! |
| 22:21.37 | sargun-palm | stupid bot. |
| 22:21.37 | tensai | mmm, insanity sauce |
| 22:21.47 | sontek | is your gf laksmi ? |
| 22:22.11 | sargun-palm | yes, sontek she is |
| 22:22.34 | elg | lakshmi isn't banned. only her alter___________ egos |
| 22:22.52 | sargun-palm | heheh |
| 22:23.05 | sargun-palm | then ban lakshmi_* |
| 22:23.12 | sargun-palm | lakshmi alt star |
| 22:23.19 | elg | Lakshmi_*!*@* |
| 22:23.21 | elg | that's what's banned |
| 22:23.27 | sargun-palm | sounds like a video game phrase |
| 22:23.28 | sargun-palm | ah |
| 22:23.36 | shadowwire | indeed |
| 22:24.10 | sontek | haha |
| 22:24.31 | sontek | Christer was serious about getting mheath out of here |
| 22:24.40 | shadowwire | why? |
| 22:24.44 | sontek | type /bans |
| 22:24.52 | sontek | looks at all the different ways :p |
| 22:24.53 | shadowwire | again, Why? |
| 22:25.10 | Zelut | sontek: just trying to cover all the bases :) |
| 22:25.31 | levi | shadowwire: Some old-timers threatened to leave if he wasn't banned, or something like that. |
| 22:25.32 | sontek | lol |
| 22:25.42 | goozbach | Jayce^: you want the udev rule and script? |
| 22:25.48 | goozbach | I'm the one who did it |
| 22:25.48 | PelaoFeliz | /bans |
| 22:25.52 | sontek | shadowwire: because hes more annoying than a jack russel terrier? |
| 22:26.03 | Kemotaha | goozbach, I want it |
| 22:26.09 | Kemotaha | What was the base system? |
| 22:26.11 | goozbach | I'll blog it tonight |
| 22:26.20 | sontek | shadowwire: or pomeranian? |
| 22:26.25 | shadowwire | thats pretty bad. |
| 22:26.28 | goozbach | it's known to work on FC7 and ubuntu |
| 22:26.51 | sontek | goozbach is a genius |
| 22:27.03 | sontek | ~goozbach++ |
| 22:27.11 | goozbach | I need to first find out how to to get the stupid <code> block in wordpress to omit <br> tags |
| 22:27.22 | goozbach | a recent post looks like poop |
| 22:27.28 | goozbach | because of it |
| 22:27.50 | herlo | Jayce^: Yes |
| 22:28.02 | herlo | Jayce^: but it doesn't work with the stuff for ubuntu |
| 22:28.42 | Kemotaha | herlo, he wants it for me. My simple udev rule isn't working on Cent5 running a Xen kernel |
| 22:29.12 | goozbach | simplifiy your rule |
| 22:29.14 | herlo | Kemotaha: oh |
| 22:29.20 | herlo | goozbach helped me |
| 22:29.26 | Kemotaha | KERNEL=="/dev/sdb", NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbkey2" |
| 22:29.31 | herlo | yeah |
| 22:29.33 | Kemotaha | How much simplier can it get |
| 22:29.40 | herlo | Kemotaha: don't use %k |
| 22:29.52 | herlo | use NAME="value" |
| 22:30.48 | goozbach | and to make it work EVERY time use /dev/sd? |
| 22:31.16 | Kemotaha | I know but I am trying to get it to work once first |
| 22:32.18 | Kemotaha | my complicated rule is based off the devices serial number |
| 22:32.43 | Kemotaha | This one doesn't work: |
| 22:32.45 | Kemotaha | KERNEL=="/dev/sdb", NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbkey2" |
| 22:32.48 | Kemotaha | oops |
| 22:32.51 | herlo | oh, Kemotaha your SYMLINK doesn't need the + |
| 22:32.55 | Kemotaha | KERNEL=="/dev/sdb", NAME="usbkey2" |
| 22:33.17 | Kemotaha | That one doesn't work |
| 22:33.19 | shadowwire | i just got a great pic of a guy I work with trying to get the forklift back out of a pickup that he drove it into. |
| 22:33.49 | thaddeusq | Kemotaha: you are doing a reload rules after changing them, right? |
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| 22:33.55 | Kemotaha | yeah |
| 22:34.03 | Kemotaha | udevcontrol reload_rules |
| 22:34.09 | thaddeusq | Kemotaha: ok, just making sure. |
| 22:34.51 | Kemotaha | don't worry, I did the first few times |
| 22:34.58 | Kemotaha | s/did/didn't |
| 22:35.12 | sargun-palm | is /dev/root a symlink to your real root device? |
| 22:35.21 | sargun-palm | like if root is sda2 |
| 22:35.36 | sargun-palm | then dev/root is a symlink to sda2 |
| 22:35.46 | Kemotaha | nope it is a block device |
| 22:36.04 | sargun-palm | danh |
| 22:36.05 | sargun-palm | dang |
| 22:36.15 | sargun-palm | same major and minor as real one? |
| 22:36.20 | Kemotaha | yeah |
| 22:37.19 | sargun-palm | so dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/root would be sure to cause havok? |
| 22:37.33 | Kemotaha | yep it would |
| 22:37.59 | sargun-palm | ~time |
| 22:38.00 | ibot | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.10.11 22:38:00 GMT) |
| 22:38.00 | sargun-palm | leat |
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| 22:38.51 | sargun-palm | gah. another hour and 20 minutes |
| 22:38.55 | sargun-palm | until I end class |
| 22:39.41 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.11 | shadowwire | eh, just end it now. Put everybody out of (your) misery. |
| 22:40.17 | sargun-palm | elg: no, that's for when we have a midterm. |
| 22:40.34 | sargun-palm | shadowwire: :-) |
| 22:40.37 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.12 | sargun-palm | has anyone here seen 28 days later |
| 22:41.27 | elg | later than what? |
| 22:42.14 | tensai | than 28 days ago, of course |
| 22:42.14 | sargun-palm | the infection |
| 22:43.20 | sargun-palm | or tensai |
| 22:43.25 | sontek | 28 days later is crazy |
| 22:43.40 | sargun-palm | how so? |
| 22:43.57 | sontek | they had some awesome killing action in it |
| 22:44.03 | sontek | like zombines ripping out peoples eyes |
| 22:44.06 | sontek | zombies* |
| 22:49.25 | sargun-palm | tasty? |
| 22:49.38 | sontek | sargun-palm: not as tasty as shootem up, but pretty good |
| 22:50.13 | sontek | sargun-palm: shootem up has constant gunfights, car chases, and he even kills a guy with a carrot |
| 22:51.59 | sargun-palm | I watched about an hour and a half of it last night |
| 22:52.05 | sargun-palm | it was terrible imo |
| 22:52.35 | sontek | 28 days later or shootem up? |
| 22:52.57 | sargun-palm | 28 |
| 22:53.07 | sontek | 28 days later wasn't that great, but shootem up was the best movie since Army of Darkness |
| 22:53.29 | sargun-palm | p |
| 22:57.44 | sargun-palm | -chat god |
| 22:57.44 | brac | god went |
| 22:57.58 | sargun-palm | god went to the bathroom |
| 22:58.07 | sargun-palm | -chat god |
| 22:58.08 | brac | god went to print off the CD drive, caddy, & cable |
| 22:58.16 | Supaplex | -chat congress |
| 22:58.17 | brac | congress had |
| 22:58.19 | sargun-palm | -chat brac |
| 22:58.19 | brac | brac had |
| 22:58.32 | Supaplex | -chat congress is |
| 22:58.32 | brac | congress is |
| 22:58.33 | sargun-palm | -chat brac |
| 22:58.34 | brac | brac went |
| 22:58.43 | sargun-palm | -chat brac had |
| 22:58.43 | brac | brac had |
| 22:58.59 | sargun-palm | -chat sargun is |
| 22:59.00 | brac | sargun is 16? |
| 22:59.24 | sargun-palm | -chat about me |
| 22:59.24 | Supaplex | a few times over |
| 22:59.24 | brac | me did |
| 22:59.29 | sargun-palm | heh |
| 22:59.44 | Supaplex | -chat about perl |
| 22:59.45 | brac | perl did the trick. could have traded places |
| 23:00.05 | Supaplex | -chat about ~lart |
| 23:00.05 | brac | ~lart had |
| 23:00.05 | ibot | stuffs had into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 23:02.10 | Supaplex | and I thought canned chilly was hip |
| 23:02.35 | sargun-palm | hehe |
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| 23:11.04 | sargun-palm | beandog |
| 23:11.20 | Supaplex | beansoup |
| 23:11.29 | beandog | yo |
| 23:11.31 | Supaplex | beanchilli |
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| 23:17.34 | sargun-palm | jon johansen |
| 23:17.48 | sargun-palm | vour ac |
| 23:21.46 | Kemotaha | Yeah I got the udev rule |
| 23:22.57 | Kemotaha | later all |
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| 23:49.31 | beandog | is there a way to set nfs {r,w}size in my kernel options on boot? |
| 23:50.49 | Supaplex | netbooting I assume? |
| 23:51.00 | beandog | yah |
| 23:52.30 | Supaplex | I wonder if any of the nfs drivers have boottime options. |
| 23:54.36 | beandog | nfsopts? |
| 23:55.28 | Supaplex | if so, hopefully the're the same as the fstab options |