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| 00:09.59 | elg | levi: excellent article |
| 00:10.22 | elg | the headline gave it away, of course, but I could totally predict the backlash. students are lazy bums |
| 00:10.25 | elg | we all are |
| 00:11.23 | Supaplex | *yawn* Not lazy at all. Just a little motivationally challenged. yeah, that's it. |
| 00:13.20 | levi | elg: The upside is that the students eventually came around. |
| 00:13.48 | levi | elg: I found the article, incidentally, as part of an archive by the author of some socratic dialogues for teaching electronics. |
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| 00:14.10 | levi | http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/socratic/ |
| 00:15.57 | elg | levi: cool, I'll check it out |
| 00:16.16 | elg | Supaplex: you lazy bum |
| 00:17.57 | elg | learning to learn for yourself is a wonderful thing. It's the single most important thing I learned as a youngster, and one of the reasons I'm so very pleased with having been homeschooled |
| 00:18.39 | goozbach | elg: have you heard of squakbox? |
| 00:18.51 | elg | is that like a parrot in a box? |
| 00:19.21 | Supaplex | it's not a fork of the squabox? |
| 00:25.38 | goozbach | |
| 00:25.41 | goozbach | hmm |
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| 00:54.23 | Sargun | Hola |
| 00:56.01 | Sargun | O RLY? |
| 00:56.09 | herlo | Sargun: the real question is if you are traveling 1024-20 or 1024+20 |
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| 01:00.28 | xbmodder_ | Good morning fozzmoo |
| 01:00.32 | xbmodder_ | Are you in the bathtub? |
| 01:01.12 | fozzmoo | Not this time. |
| 01:03.11 | xbmodder_ | Ah. |
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| 01:11.24 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 01:11.25 | ibot | pong |
| 01:11.26 | Sargun | ~ibot |
| 01:11.26 | ibot | i heard ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 01:11.29 | Sargun | ~nukes |
| 01:11.31 | Sargun | ~weapons |
| 01:11.32 | ibot | somebody said weapons was do not touch them. |
| 01:11.36 | Sargun | ~nuke |
| 01:11.37 | ibot | Cockroach. I win. |
| 01:11.39 | Sargun | ~nuke nu |
| 01:11.40 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at nu ... B☢☢M! |
| 01:11.45 | Sargun | ~nuke rsimpkins |
| 01:11.46 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at rsimpkins ... B☢☢M! |
| 01:11.48 | Sargun | Hm. |
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| 01:31.04 | Sargun | Ah, crap. |
| 01:31.07 | Sargun | My Train's engine |
| 01:31.12 | Sargun | just Segfaulted. |
| 01:31.25 | Lakshmi | sargun where are u? |
| 01:31.34 | Sargun | Uh |
| 01:32.05 | Sargun | Sunol |
| 01:32.05 | Sargun | I have really bad luck with this thing |
| 01:32.05 | Sargun | eh? |
| 01:32.23 | Lakshmi | heh ya u do |
| 01:32.33 | Sargun | Ya! Its booting up again (the engine) |
| 01:32.53 | Lakshmi | watch jus cause ure on it its gunna die again! |
| 01:33.26 | Sargun | Hm |
| 01:33.27 | Sargun | Why is my latency popping u? |
| 01:33.38 | Sargun | Gah |
| 01:33.40 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 01:33.40 | ibot | pong |
| 01:33.42 | Sargun | Save me ibot |
| 01:33.47 | Sargun | ibot, save me |
| 01:33.48 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves sargun from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 01:33.48 | Lakshmi | sargun huh? |
| 01:33.50 | Sargun | We're moving |
| 01:33.53 | Sargun | ! |
| 01:33.58 | Sargun | ibot, no. |
| 01:33.58 | ibot | YES |
| 01:34.03 | Sargun | Where is santabot |
| 01:34.09 | Sargun | ibot, NO |
| 01:34.09 | ibot | YES |
| 01:34.14 | Sargun | heh. |
| 01:34.20 | Sargun | ibot, YES |
| 01:34.20 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 01:34.31 | Sargun | ibot, NO |
| 01:34.31 | ibot | YES |
| 01:35.26 | Lakshmi | cause its fun watching u get stuck on a train |
| 01:35.28 | Lakshmi | ? |
| 01:37.52 | klys | I wish I had a miniature train |
| 01:38.46 | klys | the train here always makes pretty noises in the middle of the night. |
| 01:38.53 | Sargun | o.O |
| 01:38.59 | Sargun | ~psychiatrist klys |
| 01:39.15 | klys | sargun you creep I don't know you |
| 01:40.52 | Sargun | Bye Bye |
| 01:42.49 | Sargun | ~lart klys |
| 01:42.49 | ibot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs klys |
| 01:43.31 | Sargun | ~lart klys |
| 01:43.31 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks klys over |
| 01:47.24 | klys | some cop would easily recommend a psychiatrist, it's when they recommend a tril to jail I appreciate them more |
| 01:48.50 | klys | support your local police, offer them coffee |
| 02:25.32 | Zelut | anyone know much about synching a repository mirror via rsync? |
| 02:27.20 | klys | is it the compleentary program that would make rcs useful in terms of cvs viability? |
| 02:27.31 | herlo | Zelut: ubuntu I assume? |
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| 02:28.17 | Zelut | herlo: yes. I've used apt-mirror and have the repo I want, but I'd like to now be able to rsync it to keep up. |
| 02:28.56 | herlo | Zelut: well, I've never done it with an apt repo, but it should just be an rsync command and then an update to the repo... |
| 02:29.10 | herlo | I'm guessing apt-mirror isn't what you want... |
| 02:30.05 | herlo | seems like apt-mirror actually might be what you want, just do it as a cron job |
| 02:31.30 | Zelut | maybe it is but the last check I did seemed weird |
| 02:31.49 | Zelut | It said I needed 7M updated from the mirror, and when it was done it said 7.1M were obselete and could be removed |
| 02:32.05 | goozbach | Zelut: use an rsync command like this one: rsync -aHz --delete --delay-updates --bwlimit=256 |
| 02:33.00 | Zelut | goozbach: I also realize apt-mirror lets me specify a certain arch, which I don't think I can specify with rsync. |
| 02:33.09 | Zelut | ...maybe I should just keep to apt-mirror + cron. |
| 02:33.55 | goozbach | I should post my centos-rsync script I ripped off of someone's site |
| 02:42.06 | herlo | Zelut: I think you should |
| 02:42.09 | herlo | goozbach: I want that script |
| 02:44.24 | elg | -lart goozbach |
| 02:47.43 | elg | -urls |
| 02:47.43 | brac | [2007/10/08 18:14:11] <levi> http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/socratic/ |
| 02:47.43 | brac | [2007/10/08 16:09:14] <tensai> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amahl_and_the_Night_Visitors |
| 02:47.44 | brac | [2007/10/08 16:02:36] <levi> http://www2.nea.org/he/heta04/images/w04p51.pdf |
| 02:47.44 | brac | [2007/10/08 15:40:47] <levi> http://www.dininginutah.com/martine.htm |
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| 03:09.09 | vontrapp | -chase elg |
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| 03:57.35 | levi | Man, the iBook G4 has got to have the noisiest CD drive ever. |
| 04:09.03 | goozbach | ooohh goozbach left his irc chat open on his girlfriends computer |
| 04:09.15 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 04:09.50 | goozbach | this is different from the irc i grew up with. its not changing my nick. |
| 04:09.54 | sontek | goozbach: mv /bin/bash /bin/bash.gotcha && reboot |
| 04:09.56 | goozbach | is anyone tthere? |
| 04:10.05 | sontek | :D |
| 04:10.13 | goozbach | use it or lose it |
| 04:10.14 | sontek | and maybe change the inittab a bit |
| 04:10.30 | goozbach | this isnt gooz it's his fiance he went home... just happened to leave this window open |
| 04:10.44 | herlo | goozbach is getting marred?! |
| 04:10.44 | sontek | goozbach: I know, thats why I'm saying mess with his machine ;) |
| 04:10.50 | goozbach | lol |
| 04:10.53 | goozbach | but its MY machine!! |
| 04:11.07 | goozbach | and ill have you know ive been on irc long before he knew what irc WAS |
| 04:11.08 | sontek | haha, oh noes, then forget what I said =) |
| 04:11.12 | herlo | goozbach: you can't get marred |
| 04:11.12 | goozbach | ;) |
| 04:11.19 | goozbach | why cant he get married |
| 04:11.26 | herlo | marred! |
| 04:11.50 | sontek | goozbach: because we haven't approved of you yet! |
| 04:11.50 | herlo | goozbach: what is your name?? |
| 04:12.07 | sontek | goozbach: we have a panel of judges to review all potential wives |
| 04:12.11 | herlo | goozbach: we have to run you through the rigors. I think I've seen pics of you though |
| 04:12.24 | goozbach | *giggle* |
| 04:12.30 | goozbach | okay well umm whatcha wanna know |
| 04:12.38 | goozbach | go check out myspace |
| 04:12.48 | sontek | myspace is the devil |
| 04:12.49 | herlo | goozbach: you have a myspace account? |
| 04:13.09 | goozbach | yes yes it is its fun |
| 04:13.11 | sontek | goozbach: so, whats your editor of choice? |
| 04:13.13 | goozbach | myspace.com/charitylh |
| 04:13.14 | sontek | goozbach: and distro |
| 04:13.29 | goozbach | editor of choice whats that |
| 04:13.38 | goozbach | and whats distro |
| 04:13.44 | sontek | failed! |
| 04:13.46 | sontek | ;P |
| 04:14.14 | herlo | hehe |
| 04:14.19 | goozbach | ill have you know the night i met goozbach he was telling me his interest and showed me his phone and said oh i really like irc. and i put my hand on my hip and said, oh you mean internet relay chat? what server do you use? |
| 04:14.19 | sontek | ok, final question, is goozback allowed to skip out once a year for a week to come to our conference? |
| 04:14.35 | goozbach | the utah open source conf? |
| 04:14.44 | kemotaha | What is IRC anyways? |
| 04:14.51 | herlo | charity, you'll have to fix your myspace site before we can consider you. Anyone who does a <-> as their pointer makes a quite annoying web page |
| 04:15.09 | goozbach | what did i do? |
| 04:15.19 | sontek | goozbach: yeap |
| 04:15.26 | herlo | you made the mous pointer look like this |
| 04:15.28 | herlo | <--> |
| 04:15.32 | herlo | but on an angle |
| 04:15.37 | herlo | its sux0rz |
| 04:15.45 | herlo | hehe |
| 04:15.50 | goozbach | how come i cant change my nick |
| 04:16.04 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.11 | goozbach | i tried that |
| 04:16.17 | goozbach | i know how to change my nick it just aint changin |
| 04:16.21 | kemotaha | herlo: your right that mouse pointer is annoying |
| 04:16.37 | herlo | :) |
| 04:16.40 | goozbach | oh such critics |
| 04:16.44 | herlo | goozbach: hehe |
| 04:16.58 | herlo | goozbach: he might have locked it down somehow |
| 04:17.03 | kemotaha | goozbach: it is probably designed to keep geeks away |
| 04:17.06 | goozbach | he probably did, just cuz he knew how |
| 04:17.15 | kemotaha | What client is he using? |
| 04:17.15 | herlo | right |
| 04:17.21 | herlo | kemotaha: irssi |
| 04:17.25 | tensai | he must know you better than you think |
| 04:17.30 | herlo | kemotaha: I'd be surprised if its anythign else |
| 04:17.36 | kemotaha | True |
| 04:17.48 | goozbach | ok so who am i talking to? a/s/l? |
| 04:18.13 | herlo | uh, 35/m/english |
| 04:18.17 | kemotaha | lol |
| 04:18.31 | kemotaha | I would never expect such a question in this channel |
| 04:18.37 | kemotaha | 28/M/engrish |
| 04:18.38 | sontek | 22/f/fl, hot athlete bod and tan |
| 04:19.34 | herlo | sontek: you smoke |
| 04:19.39 | goozbach | lol |
| 04:19.40 | herlo | sontek: and you're not hot or female |
| 04:19.48 | herlo | sontek: you're also fat and balding |
| 04:19.49 | sontek | WHAT?! prove it! |
| 04:19.51 | goozbach | what channel am i in, anyway |
| 04:19.55 | herlo | sontek: don't lie like that |
| 04:19.56 | herlo | #utah |
| 04:20.04 | goozbach | y'all are all fat and balding i know your type |
| 04:20.04 | kemotaha | Geeks 401 |
| 04:20.18 | goozbach | lest we forget im in love with a geek -) |
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| 04:20.36 | levi | I am not fat. And I have a full head of curly hair. |
| 04:20.44 | levi | Well, semi-curly, anyway. |
| 04:21.00 | goozbach | smoking is prohibated in utah. ever heard of the UTAH CLEAN AIR ACT duh sontek?! |
| 04:21.02 | sontek | goozbach: finnne, I'll tell the truth, 42/m/ut "more to love" |
| 04:21.11 | goozbach | lol |
| 04:21.19 | goozbach | man i havnt been on irc in years and years |
| 04:21.26 | goozbach | does anyone get on efnet or undernet? |
| 04:21.43 | goozbach | i used to stay up until the sun rose chatting on this dumb computer |
| 04:22.17 | levi | My old college roommate used to go on IRC to 'pick up chicks' |
| 04:22.22 | tensai | efnet and undernet. haven't been there in ages and don't miss it. |
| 04:22.30 | sontek | thats why I get on IRC |
| 04:22.31 | goozbach | haha i probably ncmo'd him im sure of it then |
| 04:22.55 | levi | He didn't have an email address, so he used mine. That was kind of awkward when he got pictures and decided he wasn't interested... |
| 04:23.00 | goozbach | that wasa joke btw ;p |
| 04:23.07 | goozbach | lol |
| 04:23.12 | goozbach | what was his screenname |
| 04:23.18 | levi | I don't remember. |
| 04:23.29 | goozbach | and i just noticed that my cursor IS messed up on myspace i had no idea |
| 04:24.13 | levi | Yeah, and somehow my browser got confused when I switched back to this window, and 'french tip toenails' kept blinking to red/black. |
| 04:24.29 | goozbach | naw you're a good size, kinda cute |
| 04:24.32 | goozbach | ;) |
| 04:26.08 | sontek | I can't take pictures because the glare from my forehead really kills the lighting |
| 04:27.16 | goozbach | okie boys |
| 04:27.21 | goozbach | im off to bed |
| 04:27.23 | levi | I think this is the only picture of me online at the moment: http://plug.org/user/30 |
| 04:27.26 | herlo | goozbach: why thank you, I'd hit on you, but goozbach woudl probably be upset with me |
| 04:27.28 | sontek | gnight |
| 04:27.31 | goozbach | im assuming there are no ladies in the audience tonite |
| 04:27.41 | goozbach | yah since we both know that he's going to read these logs tomorrow |
| 04:27.41 | sontek | herlo: goozbach would delete your inittab |
| 04:27.47 | herlo | goozbach: if maquis is here, then that would be an incorrect assumption |
| 04:27.50 | herlo | sontek: hehe |
| 04:27.56 | sontek | maquis is a lady |
| 04:28.04 | goozbach | interesting |
| 04:28.06 | herlo | goozbach: he's a nice guy |
| 04:28.09 | goozbach | yu know what you do when you assume |
| 04:28.21 | herlo | sontek: yup, she is the proud owner of tuxgirl.com |
| 04:28.24 | goozbach | old used joke but it sjust so FUNNY |
| 04:28.24 | herlo | assuming its still up |
| 04:28.26 | goozbach | oh dear |
| 04:28.29 | sontek | you make an ass out of yourself?! |
| 04:28.32 | herlo | goozbach: hahah |
| 04:28.45 | goozbach | heheheh hohohoho haha hahahaha |
| 04:31.46 | sontek | levi: were you the one who said to go to martine? |
| 04:31.53 | levi | sontek: Yup. |
| 04:31.53 | sontek | levi: they are closed on Mondays :( |
| 04:31.59 | levi | Oh, bummer. |
| 04:32.09 | sontek | levi: so we are going to have to check it out some other time |
| 04:32.18 | levi | Yeah. Definitely check it out. |
| 04:32.26 | levi | Where'd you end up going? |
| 04:32.36 | sontek | levi: Melting Pot |
| 04:32.41 | levi | Ahh, nice. |
| 04:32.52 | sontek | levi: neither of us have ever had Fondu, so it was fun :P |
| 04:33.07 | Tene | My girl is in here sometimes. |
| 04:33.10 | levi | I think Melting Pot is overpriced for what it is, but I enjoy it. |
| 04:33.32 | sontek | Katie idles other irc servers, I can start bringing her on freenode now that shes a SUSE user |
| 04:33.34 | herlo | Tene: where are you this week? |
| 04:33.46 | Tene | herlo: Columbia, MD. |
| 04:33.49 | sontek | levi: definitely, the food wasn't that great for the price, but its an experience |
| 04:34.24 | herlo | Tene: I like it there, its nice |
| 04:34.46 | herlo | IIRC |
| 04:34.53 | tensai | I can't imagine paying for fondue. it's not cliche. what's the word?... |
| 04:35.18 | goozbach | grrr. i need to se scree to autolock :) |
| 04:35.18 | sontek | Katie and I both *hate* sushi =) |
| 04:35.27 | levi | Mmmm, sushi. |
| 04:35.38 | goozbach | s/scree/screen/ |
| 04:35.40 | sontek | I can take it because al my friends in L.A wanted it all the time |
| 04:35.43 | herlo | one of the best places is here in Chicago too |
| 04:35.46 | goozbach | set even |
| 04:35.48 | herlo | Sushi Samba Rio |
| 04:35.50 | sontek | so I wouldn't say hate, but its definitely my last choice in food |
| 04:35.55 | levi | goozbach: I guess you're the real gooz this time? |
| 04:35.57 | goozbach | so you all met charity |
| 04:36.00 | goozbach | ? |
| 04:36.02 | sontek | atleast in L.A it was fresh =) |
| 04:36.07 | herlo | sontek: then you just haven't had good sushi |
| 04:36.13 | goozbach | levi: yup, the one and only |
| 04:36.21 | herlo | fresh doesn't necessarily equal good |
| 04:36.21 | levi | Yup. Nice girl, but what's with all that ncmo stuff?! ;) |
| 04:36.22 | sontek | goozbach: yeah, she failed the test though, I wouldn't marry her, she didn't say vim for her favorite editor |
| 04:36.48 | herlo | she also didn't know hwo to change her nick, that's unnacceptable! |
| 04:37.07 | tensai | herlo: but sushi without fresh is a trip to the ER |
| 04:37.12 | sontek | herlo: Believe me, I've had plenty of 'good' sushi :P |
| 04:37.29 | herlo | tensai: agreed |
| 04:37.29 | sontek | herlo: its just not my thing |
| 04:37.29 | herlo | sontek: and you still don't like it? |
| 04:37.32 | herlo | that's a shame! |
| 04:37.46 | tensai | I'm not real big on sushi either |
| 04:38.26 | herlo | man, people really miss out on the good stuff :/ |
| 04:38.35 | herlo | ah well, more for me! |
| 04:38.54 | Tene | herlo: Bryan is here too this week. |
| 04:38.55 | sontek | I don't see why people like it, its not gross but just doesn't have as great of a flavor as a good steak |
| 04:39.09 | herlo | Tene: two classes in MD? |
| 04:39.12 | Tene | herlo: yes. |
| 04:39.19 | Tene | I have more students than he does, though. |
| 04:39.21 | goozbach | i am lucky i have locked nick changes. she would have cost me in idlerpg |
| 04:39.22 | herlo | both at /training/etc? |
| 04:39.27 | Tene | herlo: yes. |
| 04:39.30 | herlo | wow! |
| 04:39.37 | herlo | Tene: how many people are in your class? |
| 04:39.42 | herlo | es |
| 04:39.50 | Tene | herlo: 10. 2 in his. |
| 04:40.04 | herlo | only 2 in his? wow |
| 04:40.11 | herlo | I have 17 in my 300 this week |
| 04:40.25 | Tene | I'm also teaching a 300! |
| 04:40.42 | herlo | :) |
| 04:40.44 | Tene | Speaking of which, I should check the schedule and make sure I'm not feeling deficient in any of the material covered tomorrow. |
| 04:40.47 | goozbach | i am usually not this careless about leaving open terminals around. |
| 04:41.03 | goozbach | i am just uber tired i guess |
| 04:41.04 | herlo | Tene: so I guess you finished 4 chapters today? |
| 04:41.34 | herlo | just to get ahead |
| 04:42.27 | goozbach | herlo: charity does know how to change her nick. she has been irc'ing sinxe like '95 |
| 04:43.09 | Tene | I thought the wiki said to go through ch5 |
| 04:43.18 | goozbach | i have locked my client soo i dont accidently change my nick on this server and hurt my idlerpg standings |
| 04:43.37 | herlo | goozbach: I know |
| 04:43.47 | herlo | ~seen goozbach |
| 04:43.49 | ibot | goozbach is currently on #utos #utah #idlerpg #lugot. Has said a total of 161 messages. Is idling for 31s, last said: 'i have locked my client soo i dont accidently change my nick on this server and hurt my idlerpg standings'. |
| 04:44.00 | Tene | ~seen brac |
| 04:44.01 | ibot | brac is currently on #asterisk-doc #utah. Has said a total of 153 messages. Is idling for 1h 56m 17s, last said: '[2007/10/08 15:40:47] <levi> http://www.dininginutah.com/martine.htm'. |
| 04:44.14 | goozbach | i should go to bed |
| 04:44.19 | elg | -join #utaug |
| 04:44.33 | herlo | me too |
| 04:44.33 | elg | oh, it's jsut that ibot ain't there |
| 04:44.43 | herlo | elg: - is for brac |
| 04:44.44 | Tene | herlo: wiki does say go through ch5. I didn't have a problem. |
| 04:44.50 | Tene | My students are obviously smarter than yours. |
| 04:44.58 | herlo | Tene: ahh, I guess I just talk too much |
| 04:45.04 | Tene | Heh. |
| 04:45.04 | herlo | Tene: that's it! |
| 04:45.11 | herlo | I have dumb students! |
| 04:45.21 | herlo | they don't ask any questions, that makes them dumb! |
| 04:45.48 | Tene | I'm glad, my students this week don't have any problem asking questions or calling me over to help them during the labs. |
| 04:46.05 | herlo | Mine either really |
| 04:46.14 | Tene | I had three students call me over during the labs today instead of waiting for me to wander over near them. |
| 04:49.47 | goozbach | i wonder somtimes... |
| 04:49.53 | goozbach | about fruit |
| 04:50.02 | goozbach | mostly pineapple |
| 04:50.18 | sontek | I love pineapple, I wonder about kiwi |
| 04:51.00 | goozbach | pineapple i think is one of the perfect fruits |
| 04:51.14 | goozbach | that's what i wonder about |
| 04:51.14 | Supaplex | right next to mangos |
| 04:51.22 | sontek | It has its imperfections, those little noches that you havet to carve out |
| 04:53.08 | goozbach | sontek: what are youtalking about?... open can, dump into bowl, eat!... no notching needed. |
| 04:53.22 | goozbach | mangos on the other hand... |
| 04:53.42 | goozbach | it is like eating the side of a wooly sheep |
| 04:54.04 | Supaplex | then you're eatting it wrong |
| 04:54.31 | goozbach | if only someone would cut a mango up and put it into a can for me |
| 04:54.58 | goozbach | i can NEVER cut a mango properly |
| 04:55.09 | levi | goozbach: They do sell those. |
| 04:55.35 | Supaplex | I so love a fresh mango (granted, is it fresh if it had to be shipped over state lines? hummm) |
| 04:55.43 | levi | I love mangos, especially in the form of mango lassi. |
| 04:55.56 | levi | But at the moment, my favorite fruit is the peach. |
| 04:57.12 | levi | The O'Henry peach, specifically. |
| 04:57.38 | Supaplex | Yeah, peaches are pretty good (esp if it's whole fruit not in a can) |
| 04:58.19 | levi | Yeah, I'm talking local-grown farmer's market peaches. |
| 04:58.24 | levi | So good! |
| 05:00.19 | Supaplex | mmhuhuhmmhuhmmmm yumm |
| 05:00.52 | levi | Also, farmer's market pears! |
| 05:01.51 | levi | I was leery of them, because the last few supermarket pears I tried were nasty, but they turned out delicious. |
| 05:02.31 | Supaplex | speaking of nasty, the last yougrt I opened had mold in it :( |
| 05:02.41 | herlo | goozbach: they do have mangos in a jar |
| 05:03.28 | levi | I got mangos in a can a while ago and attempted to make lassi. Unfortunately, I didn't strain the pulp after pureeing it. |
| 05:03.49 | levi | The mango fibers in the drink were most unappetizing. |
| 05:05.25 | vontrapp | wtf, my samba server is all wiggy |
| 05:05.59 | vontrapp | nmblookup can't find dernhelm from the lan broadcast |
| 05:06.08 | vontrapp | but it can from 127.0.0.1 |
| 05:06.35 | vontrapp | i even tried explicitely telling it to bind to 172.17.0.0/16 |
| 05:08.37 | vontrapp | vontrapp@dernhelm ~$ nmblookup dernhelm |
| 05:08.37 | vontrapp | querying dernhelm on 172.17.255.255 |
| 05:08.37 | vontrapp | querying dernhelm on 127.255.255.255 |
| 05:08.37 | vontrapp | 172.17.86.235 dernhelm<00> |
| 05:09.08 | vontrapp | this is retarded, windows can't get the shares |
| 05:09.24 | Supaplex | did you beef up the logging? |
| 05:09.58 | Supaplex | samba can be elusive, but extra logging finds helpful extra clues every so often |
| 05:09.58 | vontrapp | what do i look for in the logging? |
| 05:10.29 | Supaplex | and are all machines using the same broadcast address? they're on the same segment? |
| 05:10.54 | vontrapp | how do i beef it up? |
| 05:10.57 | Supaplex | you have to study them and decide at that time. it's a mystery really. |
| 05:11.19 | Supaplex | smb.conf - let's see if I can search for it in the man pages. 1m. |
| 05:11.37 | vontrapp | both computers are on 172.17.86.0/24 |
| 05:12.04 | Supaplex | log level = |
| 05:12.13 | vontrapp | but on the _same_ computer, nmblookup doesn't get itself until it goes tot the loopback if |
| 05:12.34 | vontrapp | what should i set it to? |
| 05:12.54 | Supaplex | apparently you can specify based on the 'class'. I think you can simply say "debug" (which can get noisy) |
| 05:13.12 | Supaplex | or passdb:5 auth:10 winbind:2 for example to fine tune based on category |
| 05:13.26 | vontrapp | unrecognized debug |
| 05:13.51 | vontrapp | = 20 made it do a lot |
| 05:13.54 | Supaplex | try 9 |
| 05:14.41 | Supaplex | ok. if it's too noisy, you can always turn it down. :) (I forget to revert that sometimes, and discover lots of logs a few days later) |
| 05:15.25 | vontrapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.17 | Supaplex | elections might take a few minutes to settle. |
| 05:16.55 | vontrapp | there was an error about loading /etc/samba/lmhosts |
| 05:17.20 | Supaplex | that's minor |
| 05:18.40 | vontrapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.59 | vontrapp | should that subnet be an actual subnet instead of just one address? |
| 05:19.31 | Supaplex | that might be one reason. what's the broadcast address set to? |
| 05:19.47 | vontrapp | 172.17.0.0/16 (172.17.255.255) |
| 05:20.09 | Supaplex | let me compare with my logs. |
| 05:21.34 | vontrapp | hmmm |
| 05:21.47 | vontrapp | i get this from nmblookup |
| 05:21.49 | vontrapp | tdb(unnamed): tdb_open_ex: could not open file /var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb: No such file or directory |
| 05:21.50 | Supaplex | log.nmbd: initiate_myworkgroup_startup: Added server name entry RIDDLE on subnet 10.141.0.9 |
| 05:21.55 | Supaplex | looks normal. |
| 05:22.29 | Supaplex | I don't recall seeing what /var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb would be about. |
| 05:23.30 | vontrapp | well, now dernhelm is the current master browser |
| 05:24.23 | vontrapp | still can't resolve dernhelm from anything but lo |
| 05:24.39 | vontrapp | that's what i don't understand |
| 05:24.56 | vontrapp | everything seems to work except on the subnet i need it to work on :/ |
| 05:25.35 | Supaplex | try: nmblookup DERNHELM -B 172.17.255.255 |
| 05:25.56 | Supaplex | my nmblookup on the console is plenty noisy :) |
| 05:26.14 | vontrapp | no good, i even tried -B 172.17.86.235 |
| 05:26.57 | Supaplex | any iptables rules in effect? |
| 05:27.05 | vontrapp | just default openwrt |
| 05:27.38 | vontrapp | on dernhelm there's a drop INVALID |
| 05:27.45 | vontrapp | that's all |
| 05:27.49 | Supaplex | I had my share of issues on openwrt. they're so tight on their package constraints, some features get crippled. |
| 05:28.11 | Supaplex | I haven't used samba on openwrt though. |
| 05:29.25 | Supaplex | http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:jRr9tHTOThIJ:wiki.samba.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions+unexpected.tdb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us&client=iceweasel-a |
| 05:30.02 | Supaplex | that tdb file you mentioned doesn't look very critical. unless you've got funky custom ports from windows machine or something |
| 05:30.56 | vontrapp | http://von.fugal.net/temp/status-iptables.html |
| 05:30.57 | brac | [OpenWrt White Russian Administrative Console] |
| 05:31.01 | vontrapp | there's my openwrt iptables |
| 05:31.27 | vontrapp | but it shouldn't even matter on the _same_ computer, should it? |
| 05:32.18 | Supaplex | you can firewall yourself with iptables. :) |
| 05:32.31 | vontrapp | yeah, but not on the openwrt |
| 05:32.59 | vontrapp | e.g. the openwrt can't prevent me from getting to my own interface, it wouldn't even go through the openwrt |
| 05:33.37 | Supaplex | indeed |
| 05:34.10 | vontrapp | i just did apt-cache policy samba |
| 05:34.10 | vontrapp | the current version is from security.ubuntu.com |
| 05:34.10 | vontrapp | that tells me maybe this security update is what broke it :/ |
| 05:34.30 | vontrapp | don't remember it updating samba, but this problem was just recent |
| 05:34.33 | vontrapp | as in a couple days |
| 05:35.11 | Supaplex | so it seems broke since about that time? |
| 05:35.35 | vontrapp | no, it seems broke for about a couple days, not sure when the security update was installed |
| 05:35.41 | vontrapp | don't remember it |
| 05:36.28 | Supaplex | you could uninstall (not purge) this release, and manually install an older version to see what changes. if it starts working again, your suspicions are confirmed. |
| 05:36.30 | vontrapp | omg! peopls could see your files! quick security patch it so only the very same computer can see the files!! |
| 05:36.40 | Supaplex | haha |
| 05:38.22 | Supaplex | I'm still a fan of ubuntu, but I don't follow them very closely. I'm very comfy with debian. I know ubuntu has a bug tracker. I'd be all over that to see if any new incidents have shown up. maybe there's some subtle workaround/breakage affecting it. (but downgrading is a pretty easy way to confirm/deny suspected regressions) |
| 05:38.56 | vontrapp | *downgrade finishes* |
| 05:42.32 | vontrapp | that doesn't seem to help |
| 05:44.05 | Supaplex | is it just the openwrt that cannot see the ubuntu box? |
| 05:44.23 | vontrapp | the ubuntu box can't see the ubuntu box, once i get that far, then i'll worry about the openwrt |
| 05:45.05 | vontrapp | ok, now i can get it if i do -B 172.17.86.235 |
| 05:45.10 | Supaplex | how much have you altered the config? (relative to stock) |
| 05:45.31 | vontrapp | but not for 172.17.86.255 |
| 05:45.31 | vontrapp | not much |
| 05:45.31 | vontrapp | i've been tweaking interfaces since this problem |
| 05:45.31 | vontrapp | but that's all |
| 05:45.32 | Supaplex | oh, so this works now whereas it didn't before, right? |
| 05:45.34 | vontrapp | and added a share |
| 05:46.08 | Supaplex | brb |
| 05:46.11 | vontrapp | well, i think -B 172.17.86.235 worked before, then i added and enabled interfaces |
| 05:46.16 | vontrapp | then that didn't work |
| 05:46.24 | vontrapp | then i downgraded and it worked again |
| 05:46.39 | vontrapp | but the whole time 172.17.86.255 didn't work |
| 05:49.04 | vontrapp | i tried remove --purge, and a reinstall, and still it doesn't work |
| 05:54.45 | vontrapp | when windows tries to connect, there's a butload of network traffic, but nothing happens |
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| 06:23.40 | Sargun | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727 |
| 06:26.08 | Supaplex | hehe nice find. |
| 06:29.27 | vontrapp | something else stopped working about the same time as the samba issue |
| 06:29.41 | vontrapp | azureus isn't connectable from the outside anymore |
| 06:29.44 | vontrapp | just times out |
| 06:30.30 | vontrapp | when it's not running i get connection refused |
| 06:30.39 | vontrapp | but when it's running, it just sits there until it times out |
| 06:30.54 | vontrapp | (the nat firewall test times out) |
| 06:40.15 | Sargun | What are you torrenting? |
| 06:40.24 | vontrapp | tv |
| 06:40.31 | Sargun | Ah. |
| 06:40.31 | Sargun | Nifty. |
| 06:41.25 | Supaplex | hummmnnn.... |
| 06:42.36 | Supaplex | -lart ssh@li |
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| 07:57.08 | Supaplex | hello Lakshmi |
| 07:58.18 | Lakshmi | sup? |
| 07:58.35 | Supaplex | playing with xen |
| 07:58.45 | Lakshmi | thats fun sounding |
| 08:02.44 | Sargun | neat. |
| 08:02.53 | Sargun | Supaplex, what kernel version? |
| 08:06.10 | Supaplex | Linux li 2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 22:15:14 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 08:06.55 | Supaplex | I'm using xenman, and the config it created it throwing error 22, invalid argument. I have no idea why, and I've stabbed into google for the last hour or so about it. |
| 08:07.36 | Supaplex | http://rafb.net/p/A4taLc15.html |
| 08:10.34 | Supaplex | Sargun: ever use xen? |
| 08:10.45 | Sargun | Yeah |
| 08:10.47 | Sargun | Why? |
| 08:10.57 | Supaplex | have any ideas what's up with my config? |
| 08:11.35 | Sargun | Supaplex, what error |
| 08:12.14 | Sargun | comment out vif |
| 08:13.49 | Supaplex | no diff. |
| 08:24.48 | Sargun | what's the error message? |
| 08:24.56 | Supaplex | 1s |
| 08:25.42 | Supaplex | Error startind d1. Domain could not be started: Error: (22, "Invalid argument") Using config file ... |
| 08:27.23 | Supaplex | http://rafb.net/p/b4r0vZ19.html xend.log snippet |
| 08:27.41 | Supaplex | I've seen other people mention this message, but no resolutions thus far. |
| 08:29.12 | Supaplex | humm.. interesting. |
| 08:29.13 | Supaplex | The following packages will be upgraded: xen-docs-3.0 xen-hypervisor-3.0.3-1-amd64 xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1 xen-utils-3.0.3-1 |
| 08:29.22 | Supaplex | rebooting. :) |
| 08:31.17 | Supaplex | no differences. |
| 08:38.14 | Supaplex | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xen_and_Gentoo#Creating_DomUs I think I'll hit this tomorrow. grey matter is turning into pudding. zZZzzz.... |
| 08:38.25 | Supaplex | nite Sargun. thanks anyhow =) |
| 08:38.53 | Sargun | night |
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| 13:59.09 | elg | -chat |
| 13:59.12 | brac | then you think it'd be so useful in the blank" challenge. |
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| 15:03.55 | tensai | -lart elg |
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| 15:25.44 | levi | Cool, Yahoo says they won't write DRM stuff anymore. |
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| 15:31.17 | elg | write drm stuff? as in code using drm? |
| 15:31.26 | elg | er, as in they won't implement drm anymore? |
| 15:31.27 | dataw0lf | hee |
| 15:31.31 | dataw0lf | http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-071009google-story,1,2005284.story?ctrack=1&cset=true |
| 15:31.36 | elg | or they won't write articles about drm? |
| 15:31.51 | elg | wants me to register |
| 15:31.54 | elg | what's the gist? |
| 15:43.05 | dataw0lf | conservatives complaining about Google doing a logo for the anniversary of the sputnik launch but not for memorial day. |
| 15:44.50 | JoshH | has hannity declared them this week's enemy of the state? |
| 15:45.41 | dataw0lf | them or kittens |
| 15:45.41 | dataw0lf | it's a tossup |
| 16:00.09 | Jayce^ | it's a pretty long running thing, they've done it for quite a few things. Some often esoteric person get's a special logo, but major holidays won't.. |
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| 16:08.23 | dataw0lf | well, they always do one for halloween, independence day, christmas.. |
| 16:08.47 | dataw0lf | those seem to be a bit more major than memorial or veteran's day. |
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| 16:15.15 | Tene | Pete. |
| 16:15.41 | levi | elg: They won't implement DRM for, e.g., a music store. |
| 16:15.41 | pashdown | hey |
| 16:15.47 | levi | Hi, pashdown. |
| 16:24.17 | levi | What's up? |
| 16:27.52 | levi | Hah! Lol-lambdacats: http://arcanux.org/lambdacats.html |
| 16:27.54 | brac | [Lambdacats] |
| 16:30.36 | elg | this stupid class they talked me into 'teaching' (online cs 110) |
| 16:30.41 | levi | Heh. |
| 16:30.50 | levi | How's that going? |
| 16:30.51 | elg | i have to make a grades pdf so the students can get their warm fuzzies |
| 16:31.09 | elg | but the grades come from two sources: the WebCT (think blackboard, and it's no better) |
| 16:31.24 | levi | Yeah, UVSC used to use WebCT. |
| 16:31.34 | elg | and the Access database that the TAs pass the labs off into. the latter I can only access from access, which means i have to go to a lab on campus |
| 16:31.50 | elg | since I don't have office at home in my vmware session and I'm not all that interested in getting it either |
| 16:32.24 | elg | but webct has a more up-to-date list of students, i.e. doesn't have the ones that dropped |
| 16:33.01 | elg | and, one student's surname is sanchez-gonzales, which is sanchez gonzales in Access, so they order the Sanchez's differently |
| 16:33.29 | elg | apparently sanchez-gonzales comes after sanchez, but sanchez gonzales comes before sanchez |
| 16:33.37 | levi | Heh. |
| 16:33.41 | levi | Fun with unusual surnames. |
| 16:34.20 | levi | There was a minor kerfuffle on programming.reddit recently over Simon Peyton Jones's name. |
| 16:34.23 | elg | so I have a second sheet in the spreadsheet with the class list as it appears in the other source and funny fragile manual links from the score place... |
| 16:34.44 | elg | it's a pain. lots of manual tweaking. |
| 16:34.46 | levi | His surname is Peyton Jones, with no hyphen, but sometimes people either drop the Peyton or add a hyphen. |
| 16:35.15 | elg | I suppose they're paying me plenty for it, but doing it at all is basically a favor I did because they were begging pathetically |
| 16:35.28 | elg | so I'm still justified in complaining. ;-) |
| 16:35.47 | levi | You're a sucker for the beggars, eh? ;) |
| 16:36.14 | Tene | Yeah, a web app. |
| 16:36.28 | elg | well, when the beggars are the ones giving me my money and degree... |
| 16:36.33 | levi | Tene: I don't think that was pathetic enough. |
| 16:36.36 | fozzmoo | herlo: ping |
| 16:36.42 | Tene | With... ajax? |
| 16:36.59 | elg | fugal.net:3301 |
| 16:37.28 | Tene | I asked for 'ajax', not 'ocean'. |
| 16:37.45 | Tene | Ooo... Scalar::Defer on cpan. |
| 16:37.49 | elg | how do you think I keep the ocean clean? |
| 16:37.56 | Tene | Exactly what I wanted. |
| 16:38.10 | elg | you wanted an ocean? |
| 16:38.17 | Tene | I wanted Scalar::Defer. |
| 16:38.23 | elg | ~defer Tene |
| 16:38.30 | Tene | You should have known what I meant when I asked for a web app. |
| 16:38.59 | elg | i did, but i was too lazy |
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| 16:40.04 | elg | ack for me, ackic! |
| 16:42.10 | levi | fin |
| 16:42.21 | elg | finic |
| 16:42.27 | levi | rst |
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| 16:54.32 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo! |
| 16:54.41 | fozzmoo | yeah! |
| 17:01.33 | Lakshmi | sup?! |
| 17:02.08 | fozzmoo | You REALLY want to know? |
| 17:04.22 | fozzmoo | That's what I thought. |
| 17:04.34 | beandog | now we do |
| 17:05.00 | Lakshmi | mhm |
| 17:05.02 | Lakshmi | whats sup? |
| 17:05.13 | fozzmoo | Well, things at work finally slowed down enough I could take some time this week to gather video from UTOSC and edit it. |
| 17:05.23 | fozzmoo | It's not looking good. |
| 17:05.31 | goozbach | no? |
| 17:05.33 | fozzmoo | I haven't found any intact video from the interviews I did. |
| 17:05.39 | goozbach | NOOO!!! |
| 17:05.45 | goozbach | I wanted to see my ugly mug |
| 17:05.48 | fozzmoo | I have a couple keynotes. |
| 17:06.02 | fozzmoo | My terrible NetworkManager presentation is intact. Pffft. |
| 17:06.24 | fozzmoo | I'm hoping herlo has some video data I don't have. |
| 17:06.50 | Lakshmi | whats UTOSC? |
| 17:07.00 | fozzmoo | The interviews I did on Friday with jsmith and dax are what I was really looking forward to putting up. |
| 17:07.08 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: You crack me up sometimes. |
| 17:07.21 | Lakshmi | why? |
| 17:07.24 | Lakshmi | what did i do? |
| 17:07.31 | fozzmoo | Because you hang out in #utah and you don't know certain things. |
| 17:07.56 | Lakshmi | id learn if SOMEONE told me :) |
| 17:08.05 | fozzmoo | I mean, you should be a junior Linux sysadmin at this point. |
| 17:08.30 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: www.utosc.org |
| 17:09.02 | Lakshmi | ooh |
| 17:09.07 | Lakshmi | sounds fun! |
| 17:09.53 | dataw0lf | heh |
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| 17:12.01 | Lakshmi | dont they have a proffessional videographer at these thigns/ |
| 17:12.04 | Lakshmi | things? |
| 17:12.26 | elg | are you calling fozzmoo unprofessional? |
| 17:12.59 | fozzmoo | I wasn't the videographer. :) |
| 17:13.08 | fozzmoo | I was the interviewer. |
| 17:14.07 | Lakshmi | ah but dont they hire other ppl to make a video of the event etc etc |
| 17:14.16 | fozzmoo | This was our first UTOSC... |
| 17:14.21 | fozzmoo | so it was mostly volunteers. |
| 17:14.31 | Lakshmi | oh |
| 17:14.31 | fozzmoo | KnowledgeBlue brought in some nice equipment. |
| 17:14.35 | fozzmoo | and people to run it. |
| 17:14.46 | fozzmoo | But Robb was kinda fixated on not using tapes. :) |
| 17:15.09 | fozzmoo | All the video was recorded directly to hard-disk based HD recorders. |
| 17:15.17 | fozzmoo | And therein lies the problem. |
| 17:19.38 | Tene | Huh. kp6 is farther along than I thought. |
| 17:19.39 | Tene | 11:12 < fglock> kp6: my $a = gather { my $k = 0; while 1 { take $k; $k = $k + 1; } };say ($a.map: -> $x { $x + 100 })[10]; |
| 17:19.43 | Tene | 11:12 < exp_evalbot> r18353: OUTPUT[110] |
| 17:22.57 | levi | fozzmoo: Did the recording process not work, or what? |
| 17:23.09 | fozzmoo | I'm not sure. |
| 17:23.23 | fozzmoo | I don't know if people didn't know how to use these HD recorders... |
| 17:23.32 | fozzmoo | if they were using poor firewire cables... |
| 17:23.35 | herlo | seems odd |
| 17:23.39 | fozzmoo | if data got corrupted during data transfers... |
| 17:23.43 | fozzmoo | I just don't know what happened. |
| 17:24.07 | herlo | fozzmoo: one of the disks did have problems. I wonder if its going to be a problem across the board |
| 17:24.18 | jsmith | :-( |
| 17:24.32 | jsmith | fozzmoo: I was looking forward to seeing my own interview |
| 17:24.37 | fozzmoo | jsmith: Me too! |
| 17:24.46 | jsmith | fozzmoo: I'm in SLC this week, if you want to re-do the interview ;-) |
| 17:24.55 | fozzmoo | When's the SLC bootcamp? |
| 17:25.05 | fozzmoo | Right now? |
| 17:25.06 | jsmith | This week |
| 17:25.07 | jsmith | Right now |
| 17:25.08 | fozzmoo | Awh. |
| 17:25.22 | fozzmoo | Man, if it was next week, I'd send one of my employees to it. |
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| 17:26.02 | shadowwire | Sup yo? |
| 17:27.05 | jsmith | fozzmoo: It was supposed to be next week, but it got changed. And I wasn't supposed to teach it this week, but I had to fly out last-minute and do it |
| 17:27.09 | herlo | jsmith: when do you leave? |
| 17:27.23 | goozbach | It is by DEW alone I set my mind in motion |
| 17:27.23 | jsmith | herlo: Late on Friday... didn't lars get ahold of you? |
| 17:27.35 | jsmith | goozbach: Add a bit of pineapple juice |
| 17:27.39 | herlo | jsmith: he did, but he didn't give me details |
| 17:27.48 | jsmith | herlo: Cool... I don't leave until 11:58pm on Friday |
| 17:28.04 | herlo | he just told me you wanted to play board games on Friday night, but I'll not land until about 11pm on Friday |
| 17:28.10 | herlo | guess we'll pass in the Crown Room |
| 17:28.25 | jsmith | herlo: Actually, I've got a pass there :-) |
| 17:28.33 | herlo | jsmith: me too |
| 17:28.44 | herlo | jsmith: If I get in early, we could at least say hi and chat |
| 17:28.48 | jsmith | Yup |
| 17:29.19 | shadowwire | anybody seen a chicken Hawk lately? |
| 17:29.33 | jsmith | shadowwire: I saw one three weeks ago, but it was in Virginia |
| 17:29.48 | shadowwire | oh. |
| 17:29.52 | herlo | jsmith: I land at 11:17 as of right now |
| 17:30.12 | herlo | shadowwire: depends on whether you refer to the cartoon or the wikipedia definition |
| 17:30.34 | goozbach | it is by the juice of mountian that thoughts aqurire speed, that teeth aquire stains, the stains become a warning. |
| 17:30.55 | goozbach | it is by DEW alone I set my mind in motion |
| 17:32.23 | herlo | ~lart goozbach |
| 17:32.23 | ibot | gives goozbach a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
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| 17:48.30 | findlay-w | tensai: that's neat |
| 18:05.07 | findlay-w | Sargun: because 'my-' is trendy and ugly and just bad taste |
| 18:05.13 | findlay-w | klys_: I'm in Utah |
| 18:16.38 | synic | anyone know how to monitor an adaptec sata raid controller for bad drives and other alerts? |
| 18:34.37 | Sargun | ? |
| 18:34.46 | Sargun | smart |
| 18:36.00 | jsmith | synic: As I understand it, there are a set of utilities you can download and install. |
| 18:37.36 | synic | they are being very elusive. |
| 18:37.40 | synic | all I can find are drivers |
| 18:42.42 | beandog | monit? nagios? |
| 18:50.21 | elg | mon |
| 19:03.10 | vontrapp | i* is only slightly better than my* |
| 19:03.41 | vontrapp | i do want the iPoop onesies, though |
| 19:06.11 | Sargun | TODO: Write new init scripts for DDServer |
| 19:06.21 | Sargun | -Mess around with automated audio editing |
| 19:06.31 | Sargun | -Distributed hash cracking |
| 19:12.14 | shadowwire | -chat slightly better |
| 19:12.15 | brac | slightly better than OS X. |
| 19:12.38 | shadowwire | -chat wanted to |
| 19:12.39 | brac | wanted to be honest, kind of cherry Cordials with the apt howto. |
| 19:13.45 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7036098.stm |
| 19:13.47 | brac | [BBC NEWS | World | Americas | US man seeks change for $1m bill] |
| 19:13.49 | ^Migs^ | A man who handed over a counterfeit million-dollar bill to a cashier at a Pittsburgh supermarket and asked for change has been arrested. |
| 19:14.16 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha |
| 19:16.06 | tristanbob | "if you don't have the correct change, I'll just take what you do have" |
| 19:16.21 | tristanbob | they should have wrote him an IOU |
| 19:24.01 | shadowwire | Wow. I just found a soft ice cream machine on e-bay for $620. |
| 19:26.32 | shadowwire | I think Ill buy it for my house. |
| 19:28.12 | shadowwire | -chat soft ice |
| 19:28.12 | brac | soft ice cream is a pretty ridiculous to me. |
| 19:28.43 | shadowwire | How can you say that? Soft Icecream is what makes the world go round! |
| 19:28.56 | shadowwire | -chat haw can |
| 19:28.57 | brac | haw can I just finished DTMF support in Asterisk (and using it as to what they used to be in the main, then left, and one pound of salt |
| 19:29.15 | shadowwire | haw? |
| 19:29.29 | shadowwire | -chat world go |
| 19:29.29 | brac | world go round! |
| 19:29.43 | shadowwire | -chat one pound |
| 19:29.43 | brac | one pound of salt improved that. |
| 19:29.57 | shadowwire | -chat a man |
| 19:29.57 | brac | a man escapes from a coffee commercial or two when your back be in San Jose, CA. |
| 19:31.21 | findlay-w | -chat about stuff |
| 19:31.21 | brac | stuff went into my shiny new tin can |
| 19:34.10 | vontrapp | -chat findlay was |
| 19:34.11 | brac | findlay was wanting a SuSE-10.0 rock |
| 19:34.25 | shadowwire | -chat chating is |
| 19:34.26 | brac | chating is |
| 19:34.39 | vontrapp | -chat scruff is |
| 19:34.40 | brac | scruff is |
| 19:34.53 | shadowwire | brac: chating is as cold as ice |
| 19:34.53 | brac | alright |
| 19:35.05 | shadowwire | -chat chating is |
| 19:35.05 | brac | chating is |
| 19:35.10 | shadowwire | you suck |
| 19:35.20 | shadowwire | -chat you suck |
| 19:35.20 | brac | you suck :) |
| 19:35.30 | shadowwire | fair unuph. |
| 19:37.03 | shadowwire | canibus is lost to the fair canables. |
| 19:37.11 | shadowwire | -chat canibus is |
| 19:37.12 | brac | canibus is lost in my logs. oh, well if you were put in a FORMATION WITH OTHER engines (and other off-topic discussions :)) |
| 19:37.41 | shadowwire | :)) double chin? |
| 19:38.06 | shadowwire | -chat nonsense is |
| 19:38.07 | brac | nonsense is |
| 19:38.07 | findlay-w | -chat Tene is |
| 19:38.07 | brac | Tene is also unwilling to promise you 30 minutes of partial eclipse Begins: 21:30:22 UT |
| 19:38.36 | findlay-w | -chat ~lart me |
| 19:38.37 | brac | ~lart me for sending my address is 1039 Timbuktu, Anchorage, Alaska |
| 19:38.37 | ibot | changes brac's permissions to 0777 and tells the world for sending my address is 1039 Timbuktu, Anchorage, Alaska |
| 19:38.58 | shadowwire | Eclipse? |
| 19:39.13 | shadowwire | nice one findlay |
| 19:39.27 | shadowwire | -chat one findaly |
| 19:39.27 | brac | one findaly |
| 19:39.39 | shadowwire | ~lart brac |
| 19:39.39 | ibot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at brac |
| 19:40.00 | shadowwire | ~lart brac again |
| 19:40.00 | ibot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at brac again |
| 19:40.14 | shadowwire | cool |
| 19:40.47 | shadowwire | -chat ~lart ibot |
| 19:40.47 | brac | ~lart ibot abusers in half with a 2"x3" LCD screen (or in the next page in buffer" and "send string to make a cake you'll have to miss a major chain |
| 19:40.47 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, ibot abusers in half with a 2"x3" LCD screen (or in the next page in buffer" and "send string to make a cake you'll have to miss a major chain!" and lops off ibot abusers in half with a 2"x3" LCD screen (or in the next page in buffer" and "send string to make a cake you'll have to miss a major chain's head |
| 19:41.37 | shadowwire | -chat is odd |
| 19:41.38 | brac | but chat is it |
| 19:41.38 | brac | is odd to me. |
| 19:41.59 | shadowwire | -chat is very |
| 19:41.59 | brac | but chat is it |
| 19:41.59 | brac | is very flexible |
| 19:42.14 | shadowwire | -chat people were |
| 19:42.14 | brac | people were DDoSing the router. Kind of training? |
| 19:42.29 | Supaplex | hahaa |
| 19:42.35 | Supaplex | silly bots :P |
| 19:42.46 | vontrapp | -chat ~lart Supaplex |
| 19:42.47 | brac | ~lart Supaplex |
| 19:42.47 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of Supaplex's pants |
| 19:42.59 | vontrapp | -char ~lart someone |
| 19:43.07 | vontrapp | -chat ~lart someone |
| 19:43.08 | brac | ~lart someone |
| 19:43.08 | ibot | judo chops someone |
| 19:43.13 | thaddeusq | ~lart shadowwire for not having enough things to do |
| 19:43.13 | ibot | takes shadowwire to the vet for a "special" visit for not having enough things to do |
| 19:43.30 | Supaplex | and that's suppose to help? |
| 19:43.50 | thaddeusq | Supaplex: it gives him something to do. |
| 19:43.59 | Supaplex | yay field trip |
| 19:46.51 | findlay-w | ~hug the google |
| 19:46.52 | ibot | ACTION hugs the google |
| 19:47.10 | findlay-w | somebody somewhere out there knew the answer to my question |
| 19:47.19 | findlay-w | and it turned out to be google's first hit |
| 19:47.26 | Supaplex | cool |
| 19:47.44 | findlay-w | http://www.physics.unomaha.edu/sowell/Phys1120/Other/CapacitorExamples/EquivCapac.html |
| 19:47.45 | brac | [Equivalent Capacitance Example] |
| 19:48.05 | Supaplex | I wonder how long it'll take before they use the "Are you feeling lucky punk? Well? Are ya?" button. |
| 19:48.41 | findlay-w | Supaplex: firefox script? :) |
| 19:49.37 | Supaplex | more like a satrical site change in honor of Clint Eastwood's birthday or something. |
| 19:50.19 | findlay-w | they need a "Go ahead, make my day" button |
| 19:51.34 | Supaplex | yes that would be fun |
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| 20:16.50 | sjansen | http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/10/09/1646244.shtml |
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| 20:22.15 | sjansen | http://kurt.karmalab.org/articles/2007/10/08/programmers-need-to-learn-how-to-do-math |
| 20:22.53 | tensai | elg: I didn't know you had 10,000 cats. pretty cool. |
| 20:22.57 | Supaplex | very cool /. |
| 20:23.15 | tensai | but cat herding is not a sport |
| 20:23.42 | tensai | now sawing sheep, otoh. that takes a lot of exertion and is thus a sport. |
| 20:25.59 | Supaplex | try keeping 10K cats in the same confined space |
| 20:27.16 | elg | tensai: i don't anymore. I ate them |
| 20:27.58 | Supaplex | that explains elg's hairball attacks |
| 20:28.29 | tensai | sheesh. I spend a good hour debugging opennms not wanting to start. turns out it's because I changed my IP address, but didn't change /etc/hosts. |
| 20:33.32 | Supaplex | so don't run it on dialup eh? |
| 20:36.34 | goozbach | what does a dislexic superman say? |
| 20:36.53 | jsmith-slc | It's a brain! |
| 20:37.08 | jsmith-slc | goozbach: I give... what does he say? |
| 20:37.34 | Supaplex | uh, sure that's not what does he read? |
| 20:37.40 | goozbach | A: pu pu and YAWA! |
| 20:37.40 | Supaplex | >:) |
| 20:38.44 | sjansen | ~laugh goozbach |
| 20:38.45 | ibot | ibot laughs hysterically at goozbach...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
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| 20:54.38 | sjansen | ~calm ibot |
| 20:54.38 | ibot | ACTION sooths ibot, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm ibot down. |
| 20:55.07 | Supaplex | ~disconnect peer |
| 21:00.50 | goozbach | ~peer Supaplex |
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| 21:28.47 | Supaplex | anyone headed to UTAUG from the clearfield area? maybe we can carpool? |
| 21:30.41 | levi | What's the presentation on today, and when/where is it? |
| 21:31.01 | Supaplex | downtown slc lib, 7pm |
| 21:31.06 | Supaplex | jsmith-slc: yo |
| 21:31.50 | jsmith-slc | levi: I think Dave Packham is presenting... check utaug.org |
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| 21:33.17 | levi | What sort of laws might one break with asterisk? (re: "This site is simple and will be free to use for all law-abiding Asterisk users with a focus on local (to Utah) Asterisk users and talent.") |
| 21:33.55 | jsmith-slc | levi: Many and various laws may be broken. |
| 21:34.22 | jsmith-slc | levi: For example, you might call someone on the do-not-call list. |
| 21:35.04 | levi | Ahh, I see. |
| 21:35.40 | levi | I was trying to imagine who was meant to be excluded there, and now it makes sense. :) |
| 21:36.12 | Supaplex | levi: don't ask how to fax war dial. k? :-D |
| 21:37.14 | jsmith-slc | I can haz fax-war? |
| 21:39.17 | sjansen | ~give jsmith-slc a fax war |
| 21:39.18 | ibot | ACTION gives a fax war to jsmith-slc |
| 21:39.48 | sjansen | jsmith-slc: But only because you've been extra special good lately. |
| 21:40.28 | sjansen | Bad Asterisk users are given a lump of coal and required to sculpt it to look like an asterisk. |
| 21:41.05 | jsmith-slc | sjansen: Would that be high-sulfer coal from the mines in West Virginia, or the low-sulpher coal from Wyoming? |
| 21:41.25 | jsmith-slc | sjansen: Naw... we'll just leave them lots of annoying voicemail :-) |
| 21:42.24 | levi | Anyone go listen to Sen. Reid at BYU today? |
| 21:42.28 | Supaplex | vm-loop.agi |
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| 21:46.40 | levi | Cool, scala compiles to .NET bytecodes again. |
| 21:49.46 | fozzmoo | levi: I hope they threw the book at him. |
| 21:49.49 | fozzmoo | A few books. |
| 21:52.03 | levi | fozzmoo: At Reid? Why? |
| 21:52.39 | levi | There were no protestors, and the only distubance was someone who ran up between when he finished and the closing prayer and yelled for everyone to "not be fooled" |
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| 21:55.57 | Supaplex | so dislexic procrastinators of the world can untie |
| 22:01.22 | jsmith-slc | Supaplex: Exactly ;-) |
| 22:07.37 | ^Migs^ | wow, CMS Made Simple has to be the best CMS I've ever seen |
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| 22:08.17 | Supaplex | is it tricky? ;) |
| 22:17.15 | decriptor_ | survey question |
| 22:17.27 | decriptor_ | from a test |
| 22:17.58 | decriptor_ | which of the following is NOT a characteristic of using RAID? |
| 22:18.39 | decriptor_ | A. better performance, B. improved reliability, C. multiple logical disks, D. increased capacity of logical disk |
| 22:19.05 | klys_ | ~pounce shadowwire |
| 22:19.05 | ibot | ACTION jumps on shadowwire and bounces around Tigger style |
| 22:19.21 | beandog | mm, b. |
| 22:19.29 | beandog | although it depends on the raid level |
| 22:19.52 | klys_ | d, is not a characteristic of any raid setup |
| 22:20.17 | klys_ | ok I suppose it is then |
| 22:20.26 | beandog | just pick E |
| 22:20.29 | beandog | and write in your own answer |
| 22:20.31 | decriptor_ | klys_: I put d and got it wrong |
| 22:20.43 | decriptor_ | the "correct answer is b" |
| 22:20.47 | beandog | improved reliability is relative. |
| 22:21.02 | beandog | having a raid mirror, Id consider that technically more reliable than one disk. |
| 22:21.14 | decriptor_ | beandog: what is NOT a characteristic |
| 22:21.21 | beandog | but just slapping on RAID doesnt necessarily make it that way. |
| 22:21.29 | beandog | right |
| 22:21.30 | thaddeusq | So "Redundant" is not improved reliability? |
| 22:21.47 | Supaplex | neither does better performance. it's negligable depending on how you're using it |
| 22:22.02 | decriptor_ | end point for me is that the question is lame |
| 22:22.08 | decriptor_ | and should be removed from the test |
| 22:22.31 | decriptor_ | because technically you can have more than one logical disk with raid |
| 22:22.44 | decriptor_ | so therefore it can't NOT be a characteristic of raid |
| 22:23.18 | levi | decriptor_: What RAID gives you multiple logical disks? |
| 22:23.40 | decriptor_ | levi: not that it gives you, but if you do software raid you can have multiple |
| 22:23.55 | decriptor_ | since it didn't say hardware or software its left open |
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| 22:24.40 | klys_ | I would have thought about d for about a minute, ruled out b because mirroring is more reliable, then have flipped a coin between a and c. |
| 22:25.16 | beandog | yah |
| 22:25.19 | beandog | a is subjective too |
| 22:25.25 | beandog | raid doesnt make it magically faster. |
| 22:25.31 | beandog | although, again, depends on the raid level |
| 22:25.32 | levi | decriptor_: I'm not familiar with multiple RAID drives via software raid. So you can make a single array act as multiple disks? |
| 22:25.35 | beandog | poop, so it does. |
| 22:25.48 | Supaplex | striping w/o parity is less reliable, mirroring or parity is more reliable. it's a bad q+a. |
| 22:26.17 | klys_ | levi: you can make any such volume do so with the appropriate partitioning |
| 22:26.37 | levi | klys_: partitioning turns a disk into multiple volumes, not multiple logical disks. |
| 22:26.44 | klys_ | ok |
| 22:26.54 | levi | I think the question is reasonably clear. |
| 22:27.22 | decriptor_ | levi: I do and I don't |
| 22:27.47 | levi | Despite the fact that the which RAID level you choose changes the speed/reliability tradeoff, they're definitely attributes of RAID. |
| 22:27.49 | Supaplex | ^Migs^: you might want to check out the samba wiki for lvm2 snapshot suggestions to handle 'shadow file copy' behaivor etc. could come in handy. (although I think timely rsync snapshots would save diskspace. hardlinks for the win.) |
| 22:28.28 | klys_ | acting as, == turning into, logical disks; as these disks are accessed multiply, I do not distinguish them from block devices |
| 22:30.18 | levi | Another attribute of RAID is turning multiple physical disks into a single logical disk. Turning a RAID array into multiple logical disks doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Logical volumes, perhaps, but not disks. |
| 22:31.12 | klys_ | so levi votes for c |
| 22:31.13 | levi | Given the question as written, one could easily assume that the test creator simply didn't know about the ability to make multiple disks out of a RAID array via software RAID. |
| 22:31.40 | decriptor_ | levi: that is true and I failed to argue my point |
| 22:32.10 | levi | Are you telling me, though, that the 'correct' answer is actually B? |
| 22:32.23 | decriptor_ | no |
| 22:32.25 | decriptor_ | it was c |
| 22:32.28 | decriptor_ | I put d |
| 22:32.29 | levi | Ahh, okay. |
| 22:32.50 | levi | I was confused by: < decriptor_> the "correct answer is b" |
| 22:33.01 | decriptor_ | ops |
| 22:33.02 | Supaplex | same here |
| 22:33.03 | decriptor_ | ooops |
| 22:33.06 | klys_ | rather, you were contradicted by it |
| 22:33.07 | decriptor_ | didn't mean that |
| 22:33.26 | decriptor_ | I meant that the correct answer was c and I put d |
| 22:33.28 | decriptor_ | I'm sorry |
| 22:33.46 | levi | Well, I'm sorry I can't agree with you that the question was bad. |
| 22:34.02 | decriptor_ | levi: it wasn't horrible |
| 22:34.19 | decriptor_ | I thought with software raid you could have multiple logical disks |
| 22:34.35 | klys_ | how? |
| 22:34.37 | levi | Perhaps, but that doesn't make any sense to me. |
| 22:34.51 | decriptor_ | whether it makes sense or not |
| 22:35.10 | decriptor_ | I thought it was still a possibility |
| 22:35.15 | klys_ | like, raid-5 with multiple redundant volumes >= the total number of volumes? |
| 22:35.33 | levi | Well, there are all sorts of things you can do with Linux that don't make any sense, so naturally they wouldn't be familiar to someone teaching a class. |
| 22:36.07 | klys_ | this would be a spillover if you ask me |
| 22:36.28 | decriptor_ | well to a sense it was a lame question for the class :/ |
| 22:36.30 | levi | Classroom tests are generally concerned with the concepts rather than particular implementations. |
| 22:36.42 | decriptor_ | the class is OS theory |
| 22:36.48 | klys_ | cool |
| 22:37.00 | klys_ | are you coding a simulation |
| 22:37.05 | decriptor_ | me? |
| 22:37.13 | klys_ | right, for your project |
| 22:37.15 | levi | RAID theory is a reasonable thing to cover in OS Theory. |
| 22:37.18 | decriptor_ | last project |
| 22:37.39 | decriptor_ | levi: eeh, we only covered raid 0,1,3 anywaus |
| 22:38.00 | decriptor_ | and not really even then |
| 22:38.15 | levi | Well, that makes your choice of d even sillier. |
| 22:38.25 | levi | . o O ( more silly? ) |
| 22:38.28 | decriptor_ | levi: yeah I guess |
| 22:38.49 | klys_ | sillier is correct grammar |
| 22:39.05 | levi | The question was fine. You're just mad because you got it wrong. |
| 22:39.14 | decriptor_ | partly :P |
| 22:39.27 | decriptor_ | frustrated |
| 22:39.36 | levi | I've seen some real doozies. That was a fine question. |
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| 22:41.16 | decriptor_ | I'm more disappointed in the class |
| 22:41.20 | levi | The multiple choice tests in my public speaking class at UVSC were atrocious. |
| 22:41.31 | levi | decriptor_: I guarantee it's better than when I took it. |
| 22:41.48 | levi | decriptor_: But I was disappointed in the material it was supposed to cover, too. |
| 22:41.56 | decriptor_ | my teacher when explaining symbolic links as being shortcuts |
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| 22:42.53 | shadowwire | I actualy had a user ask me why outlook kept asking for a password. |
| 22:43.15 | shadowwire | i told them it was an id 10 t error. |
| 22:44.46 | shadowwire | this particular user has had his email psd reset about a billion times, because he never remembers it. |
| 22:45.25 | beandog | hmm, how do you view headers in pine |
| 22:46.37 | shadowwire | with the view key. |
| 22:46.58 | shadowwire | -chat how do |
| 22:46.58 | brac | how do I need (Apache HTTPd, Subversion, MySQL, Postfix, ProFTPd, SSHd, BIND, etc" none of my students: "i just looked at quilt? (or mercurial's mq extension) |
| 22:47.20 | shadowwire | jk |
| 22:48.09 | Supaplex | oh, so emacs? |
| 22:48.21 | beandog | oh well, cat to the rescue |
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| 23:16.51 | elg | -chat |
| 23:16.54 | brac | blitzrage going to shower with the mysterious planet in the 8.x series is poorly formatted inane rants about kids these days... ;) |
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| 23:27.01 | Supaplex | heya mac |
| 23:29.59 | macnewbold | howdy |
| 23:30.13 | macnewbold | how'd your stuff go with that thing you were taking? |
| 23:30.22 | elg | maquis: how's your baking going anyway? |
| 23:30.33 | macnewbold | mmm baking |
| 23:30.35 | Supaplex | macnewbold: gl275? good. :) |
| 23:30.44 | shadowwire | Been to panguitch lately? |
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| 23:33.13 | maquis | elg: it's been pretty good |
| 23:33.16 | maquis | my team at work has enjoyed it |
| 23:33.50 | maquis | i brought 2 loaves of pumpkin bread to my team (and 2 loaves for scott's team) yesterday, and they were all gobbled up pretty quickly |
| 23:34.43 | maquis | that was pretty tasty... used whole wheat flour, and used applesauce instead of the oil |
| 23:36.08 | maquis | the kneaded breads haven't gone quite as well.. they still feel a bit too dense, and i think i need to increase the amount of salt that the recipes call for |
| 23:36.52 | maquis | but even without adding gluten separately, i've managed to make the recipes work reasonably well |
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