| 00:00.15 | klys | do real admins think for you on important tasks? |
| 00:02.24 | klys | could you ever have used an office desk with a person at a typewriter? |
| 00:05.36 | klys | Do people borrow your dishwasher when you would have wanted a drink? |
| 00:07.49 | klys | when was the last rainbow you heard about? |
| 00:12.38 | klys | -//[%# |
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| 00:46.48 | vontrapp | hmm, 3-59/5 * * * * |
| 00:49.30 | vontrapp | er, 3,8,13,18,... |
| 00:49.35 | vontrapp | no good at math |
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| 01:00.15 | sjansen | Previous on Heroes... |
| 01:00.34 | vontrapp | ~hero sjansen |
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| 02:03.24 | klys | goodstuff if you're doing fhe right now. |
| 02:05.12 | klys | of course, if nobody's talking I might join #philosophy |
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| 02:05.55 | klys | and be a karma sitter |
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| 02:47.34 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The channel for content free discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | PLIG RFC: http://plig.jottit.com/ | Be guru to each other. | Are you a guru? atoponce is! | GL is p0wn-ing #utah one person at a time |
| 02:48.54 | Supaplex | they can pwn me next if they so feel inclined :) |
| 02:52.50 | Lars-UT | Supaplex: just be ready to sign over your life for a year or 2 from what I've heard - _lots_ of travel. If you enjoy lots of travel you might really like it. |
| 02:53.08 | Supaplex | I'm up for the idea |
| 02:54.41 | Lars-UT | atoponce, herlo, goozbach, & Zelut, have worked or work there |
| 02:54.59 | elg | and emcnabb |
| 02:55.15 | Lars-UT | and Stuart |
| 02:55.19 | sontek | and Tene |
| 02:55.25 | sontek | everyone ! |
| 02:55.27 | elg | and brac |
| 02:55.29 | Lars-UT | lol |
| 02:55.36 | elg | ibot was rejected though |
| 02:56.33 | klys | guru labs? where? |
| 02:56.42 | elg | nashville |
| 02:56.44 | goozbach | klys: Bountiful UT |
| 02:56.48 | klys | ok |
| 02:57.06 | goozbach | well, that's where the office is located. |
| 02:57.14 | klys | hardly a part time opportunity |
| 02:57.37 | goozbach | ask sinuhe, he worked there three weeks before he spent a single week in the office |
| 02:57.54 | goozbach | I did 18weeks straight in 2004 |
| 02:57.55 | Lars-UT | anyone: Feel free to pm me if you've got a 202 Heroes torrent location |
| 02:58.13 | goozbach | I did 28 weeks in 2005 |
| 02:58.22 | goozbach | 28 weeks total that is |
| 02:58.25 | elg | bitmetv probably has it |
| 02:58.35 | elg | you'll need to be a member though |
| 02:58.46 | elg | and naturally they're down for maintenance |
| 02:59.01 | Lars-UT | elg: yep |
| 02:59.37 | Supaplex | goozbach: ask sinuhe about what? |
| 02:59.55 | klys | brown? blue? |
| 03:00.59 | goozbach | ask sinuhe about where the Gurulabs office is, he has good experience NOT seeing it :) |
| 03:02.23 | Tene | fozz has worked there, I thought. |
| 03:02.36 | goozbach | http://www.free-penguin.org/ |
| 03:02.38 | brac | [Free Penguin Project - download free penguin sewing patterns, stuffed penguin and Tux patterns open source] |
| 03:02.52 | goozbach | fozz had done some contract work for Guru |
| 03:02.59 | goozbach | he wasn't ever an employee |
| 03:03.50 | Tene | Ahh, right. |
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| 03:09.16 | sontek | http://xkcd.com/323/ |
| 03:09.17 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 03:09.19 | sontek | best xkcd ever |
| 03:13.28 | Lars-UT | ~castigate DDOS attacks against my favorite trackers |
| 03:15.54 | sontek | so you guys voting for Romney or Clinton? |
| 03:16.27 | tensai | sontek: no and no. but in a pinch, still no. |
| 03:16.37 | Lars-UT | Giuliani |
| 03:17.11 | sontek | oh, didn't realize others were still in the race ;) |
| 03:17.20 | Lars-UT | I think Clinton is likely to win |
| 03:17.42 | sontek | Yeah |
| 03:17.53 | Lars-UT | Oh wait, that's next November... |
| 03:18.47 | tensai | whatever you do, don't vote for Bill Richardson. nothing good has ever come out of New Mexico. ;) |
| 03:19.03 | tensai | (actually he seems like a decent fellow, but I doubt he has much of a shot) |
| 03:19.15 | sontek | I'm voting for Clinton |
| 03:19.36 | sontek | well, for now, I haven't heard enough about the other candidates |
| 03:19.48 | sontek | but she fits what I believe in so far |
| 03:20.27 | tensai | she did pretty well the first two terms, right? |
| 03:20.27 | Lars-UT | tensai: I wish I could bring myself to vote for a presidential candidate whose principles I agreed with - I can't say that for the Asses nor the Elephants |
| 03:20.56 | Lars-UT | s/whose principles/whose party principles |
| 03:21.05 | tensai | Lars-UT: indeed. you'd think with such a wide open race that there'd be *somebody* worth voting for |
| 03:21.55 | klys | sontek: www.politopia.com |
| 03:22.21 | RyanE | I have an inexplicable attraction to "Cash Cab". |
| 03:22.50 | klys | is ther a lady or favorite quote or plot twist? |
| 03:23.06 | RyanE | klys: me? |
| 03:23.14 | klys | I assume it's a movie |
| 03:23.16 | RyanE | It's a game show on Discovery Channel. |
| 03:23.22 | RyanE | that takes place in a cab in NYC. |
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| 03:23.35 | Lars-UT | thanks RyanE, yet another show I'll end up watching. |
| 03:23.41 | tensai | anybody bought anything from the amazon mp3 store yet? |
| 03:23.44 | RyanE | Lars-UT: I think you'd do well. |
| 03:23.45 | calvarez | hello |
| 03:23.49 | calvarez | Macs rock :) |
| 03:24.02 | RyanE | I rank my wife's friends according to whether I'd like to have them with me in the "Cash Cab"... :) |
| 03:24.20 | calvarez | what is this thing about GL p0wning #utah? |
| 03:24.24 | calvarez | is this OpenGL? |
| 03:24.33 | sontek | calvarez: they keep hiring everyone |
| 03:24.35 | RyanE | Guru Labs |
| 03:29.27 | sontek | calvarez: Guru Labs |
| 03:29.27 | sontek | pretty soon there wont be a Linux user in UT outside of GL! |
| 03:29.27 | Lars-UT | RyanE: lol - I like that idea of a ranking system |
| 03:29.27 | RyanE | I'm not sure Lars-UT can join me in the Cash CAb |
| 03:29.27 | Lars-UT | RyanE: I don't like that idea of your ranking system. |
| 03:29.27 | RyanE | heh\ |
| 03:29.27 | Lars-UT | :) |
| 03:29.27 | calvarez | oh, guru labs |
| 03:29.29 | calvarez | what's guru labs? |
| 03:29.29 | calvarez | :p |
| 03:29.29 | calvarez | what do they do? |
| 03:29.29 | tensai | calvarez: linux training |
| 03:29.29 | calvarez | oh |
| 03:29.29 | calvarez | cool |
| 03:29.29 | tensai | they (sjansen) did a custom openldap training for my company and I would recommend them |
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| 03:29.29 | calvarez | well, good luck with the guru labs thing |
| 03:29.29 | calvarez | I myself have an interview with EA Games next week :) |
| 03:29.29 | calvarez | and had a terrific one with Apple last week |
| 03:29.29 | Lars-UT | Supaplex: raid0 doesn't count |
| 03:29.50 | Supaplex | it's not all on one machine though |
| 03:30.37 | Lars-UT | There are 640GB PCI Express NAND cards now |
| 03:30.43 | Supaplex | someday I hope to help scratch the "san-fci" |
| 03:30.55 | Lars-UT | or was it PCI-X? |
| 03:31.06 | Lars-UT | I think the latter - lemme find a link to that demo |
| 03:31.08 | Supaplex | PCI-X is 64bit pci |
| 03:31.30 | Supaplex | PCIe has more bandwitdh (assuming 16x) |
| 03:31.42 | Lars-UT | I think things are going to move to solid state pretty quickly |
| 03:31.47 | Supaplex | s/tdh/dth/ |
| 03:31.56 | Lars-UT | NAND is all over the place now |
| 03:32.48 | Lars-UT | http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185153705/bclid1202130136/bctid1205096305 |
| 03:35.03 | calvarez | tensai, it's OK, it's a summer internship |
| 03:35.11 | calvarez | I don't mind being worked to death for 12 weeks or so |
| 03:35.22 | tensai | try before you buy, eh? |
| 03:35.37 | calvarez | tensai, nah, I don't want to go work for the game industry in the long run |
| 03:35.46 | calvarez | too many moral dilemmas |
| 03:35.59 | tensai | that's what I decided too, for a variety of reasons |
| 03:36.14 | tensai | it sounds glamorous, but I expect it wears off quickly |
| 03:36.54 | calvarez | I just don't want to work in indstrial software development |
| 03:36.56 | RyanE | one of Paige's friends' husbands worked for EA. Glad to be out now. |
| 03:36.59 | tensai | kinda like being Plug Benevolent Dictator |
| 03:37.07 | calvarez | like, in industry working on a product |
| 03:37.29 | calvarez | research is a better fit for me |
| 03:37.45 | tensai | calvarez: aiming for a university? |
| 03:37.49 | findlay-w | ~research calvarez |
| 03:38.16 | calvarez | tensai, maybe |
| 03:38.35 | calvarez | I don't know exactly what I'll do, but I don't want to be purely a code monkey |
| 03:38.46 | findlay-w | a theory monkey then |
| 03:38.58 | calvarez | yea, theory monkey would be good |
| 03:39.00 | calvarez | :) |
| 03:39.01 | findlay-w | heh |
| 03:39.30 | calvarez | research, either academic, national lab or industry |
| 03:39.31 | RyanE | that's what the former EA friend is doing. Professor. |
| 03:39.35 | RyanE | doing research |
| 03:39.44 | calvarez | cool, what's his name? |
| 03:40.04 | tensai | Doctor Strangelove? |
| 03:40.19 | RyanE | he hasn't been there for 5-6 years, worked for MS for a few years before getting out. |
| 03:41.00 | RyanE | Tom Carbone is his name. |
| 03:41.36 | calvarez | ok. I thought I may have known him, but I don't |
| 03:42.31 | calvarez | and tensai, if you want to call me that, you can :) |
| 03:44.41 | Lars-UT | "Um, yeah... that flash interface to the scrapbooking site must be kinda' slow..." |
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| 03:50.27 | sontek | heh. So they just had on the news, the spice girls are touring again. |
| 03:51.48 | findlay-w | anybody here on iProvo? |
| 03:52.12 | findlay-w | mstar wants to cut me a deal at $40/month with 14 Mbps up and down |
| 03:53.23 | tensai | sontek: apparently it's the We're Broke Again tour |
| 03:53.56 | sontek | tensai: haha, thats exactly what I was thinking |
| 03:54.36 | findlay-w | and a free class C network |
| 03:54.58 | findlay-w | intarwebs are meant to be free! |
| 03:55.09 | findlay-w | clog them tubez! |
| 03:56.33 | tensai | findlay-w: come back 10 years ago. we were giving away /24s like candy |
| 03:58.01 | tensai | I guess back then it actually was a class C |
| 03:58.55 | Lars-UT | TV, then sleepytime - 0430 comes early |
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| 03:59.15 | tensai | Lars-UT: good thing you've got your priorities straight |
| 03:59.22 | tensai | hey, you come back here! I'm not through with you |
| 03:59.59 | findlay-w | ~onjoin Lars-UT -chat about not through |
| 04:00.00 | ibot | findlay-w: ok |
| 04:00.10 | findlay-w | -chat about ~onjoin findlay-w |
| 04:00.10 | brac | ~onjoin findlay-w -lart veracity |
| 04:00.10 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 04:00.16 | findlay-w | no |
| 04:00.22 | findlay-w | -chat ~onjoin findlay-w |
| 04:00.22 | brac | ~onjoin findlay-w -chat about bots should only concern itself with my parents. Even though the backplane for high tea and gets away |
| 04:00.22 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 04:01.06 | Supaplex | o.O |
| 04:01.25 | findlay-w | -chat o.O |
| 04:01.25 | brac | o.O did |
| 04:01.38 | tensai | we need an ~onpart so we can mock people as the leave |
| 04:03.58 | Tene | -chat about findlay |
| 04:03.58 | brac | findlay was considering making some b/w overusage HTML code.. |
| 04:04.00 | Tene | -chat about findlay-w |
| 04:04.01 | brac | findlay-w did |
| 04:04.30 | tensai | findlay-w did not |
| 04:04.46 | tensai | -chat about findlay-w did |
| 04:04.47 | brac | findlay-w did not work as the dems anymore. |
| 04:07.16 | findlay-w | I did too make some BW overusage HTML code |
| 04:07.24 | findlay-w | -chat Tene |
| 04:07.24 | brac | Tene had his nipples pierced in the balcony |
| 04:07.30 | findlay-w | oh sure |
| 04:07.48 | findlay-w | what have you guys been talking about while I was gone? |
| 04:07.58 | Tene | nipple piercing, obviously. |
| 04:07.58 | Sargun | Is there a way to block Particular I/O calls in Linux (to the filesystem) |
| 04:08.04 | findlay-w | to corrupt a little, ostensibly innocent bot? |
| 04:08.06 | Tene | Sargun: yes. |
| 04:08.13 | Sargun | In Linux? |
| 04:08.19 | findlay-w | you need blocks |
| 04:08.22 | Sargun | Iner |
| 04:08.22 | findlay-w | not legos |
| 04:08.24 | Tene | I don't know exactly what you want to do, but the answer is probably yes. |
| 04:08.26 | Sargun | I mean in Python |
| 04:08.37 | findlay-w | what do you mean by 'block'? |
| 04:08.42 | Sargun | Well, I'm syncronizing files across systems |
| 04:08.43 | Tene | Now, if you want ot know *how* you'll have to give some real details. |
| 04:08.49 | findlay-w | ah |
| 04:08.53 | Sargun | block means enter Disk Sleep |
| 04:09.09 | Sargun | while I'm syncing I want it to block |
| 04:09.27 | findlay-w | pydoc sys |
| 04:10.34 | Sargun | ah |
| 04:10.50 | Tene | -chat about rtfm |
| 04:10.50 | brac | rtfm is |
| 04:10.52 | Lakshmi | hi sargun |
| 04:10.57 | Sargun | I mean block calls of other programs |
| 04:11.50 | findlay-w | ~ubuntu Sargun |
| 04:11.51 | ibot | ACTION lovingly explains to Sargun in a way that causes Sargun to weep with gratitude that Sargun must read the fine, friendly manual |
| 04:11.55 | findlay-w | ~hug Lakshmi |
| 04:11.55 | ibot | ACTION hugs Lakshmi |
| 04:12.16 | findlay-w | ~shoot brac |
| 04:12.17 | ibot | ACTION shoots brac in the head with a cork gun! |
| 04:12.30 | findlay-w | -chat about ~shoot Tene |
| 04:12.31 | brac | ~shoot Tene |
| 04:12.31 | ibot | ACTION shoots Tene in the foot with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 04:12.45 | findlay-w | -chat about ~shoot |
| 04:12.46 | brac | ~shoot went |
| 04:12.46 | ibot | ACTION shoots went in the ear with a cork gun! |
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| 04:15.42 | tensai | ~milk fozzmoo |
| 04:15.43 | ibot | ACTION puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, fozzmoo, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 04:15.54 | fozzmoo | oh joy. |
| 04:16.10 | tensai | fozzmoo: so I tried out Kontact for a while. I stopped when it started segfaulting on every startup. |
| 04:16.20 | fozzmoo | Wow. |
| 04:16.25 | fozzmoo | I've not had that experience. |
| 04:16.30 | tensai | yeah. I wish I knew what I did to it. |
| 04:16.35 | fozzmoo | It's been very stable for me. |
| 04:16.37 | fozzmoo | That sucks. |
| 04:16.54 | tensai | one thing I missed from Evolution is the plugin to thread on subject, which helps when conversing with Outlook users |
| 04:17.14 | findlay-w | tensai: there's a reason they call it the Kore Dump Environment :-) |
| 04:17.39 | fozzmoo | s/roles/rolls/ |
| 04:17.49 | tensai | findlay-w: I use KDE and have no problems there. actually, Evolution crashes now and again too. |
| 04:17.50 | Supaplex | s/back/back into place/ |
| 04:18.06 | findlay-w | fozzmoo: did you appreciate my elucidation on your duplicate book signature experience? |
| 04:18.13 | fozzmoo | Supaplex: I don't think someone's here that should be here. |
| 04:18.17 | fozzmoo | findlay-w: Why yes. |
| 04:18.23 | fozzmoo | I've been telling everyone about that comment. |
| 04:18.28 | fozzmoo | And my unwritten response. |
| 04:18.35 | findlay-w | I used to work in a bindery |
| 04:18.41 | fozzmoo | "I DON'T CARE HOW IT HAPPENED! I JUST WANT IT RIGHT!" |
| 04:18.43 | Supaplex | fozzmoo: eg, you're too tired? :) |
| 04:18.44 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 04:19.09 | findlay-w | I'm just one of those people that likes to explain everything |
| 04:19.14 | findlay-w | everything |
| 04:19.15 | fozzmoo | Supaplex: Is it brac that does the s/// ? |
| 04:19.27 | findlay-w | s/brac/ibot/ |
| 04:19.35 | Supaplex | maybe. but it donna work on actions. |
| 04:19.39 | Supaplex | s/donna/does not/ |
| 04:19.49 | Supaplex | ahh ibot. |
| 04:20.05 | findlay-w | ~botsnack |
| 04:20.05 | ibot | findlay-w: aw, gee |
| 04:20.13 | findlay-w | how long since you ate ibot? |
| 04:20.19 | findlay-w | ~eat lots of stuff |
| 04:20.20 | ibot | ACTION eats lots of stuff and falls over dead |
| 04:20.29 | Supaplex | I've never tasted ibot. |
| 04:20.41 | findlay-w | ibot's not much of an eater |
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| 04:21.03 | findlay-w | ~eat a mole of M&M's |
| 04:21.03 | ibot | ACTION eats a mole of M&M's and falls over dead |
| 04:21.28 | Supaplex | ~eat 37892 bytes of brac's process space |
| 04:21.29 | ibot | ACTION eats 37892 bytes of brac's process space and falls over dead |
| 04:21.43 | levi | Hmm, I'm dropping packets. |
| 04:21.51 | findlay-w | ibot's been eating them |
| 04:22.07 | findlay-w | your tubes are leaky |
| 04:22.09 | Supaplex | levi: don't step on the mustard ones. they're messy when they go off. |
| 04:22.32 | Supaplex | blame qworst |
| 04:22.49 | fozzmoo | Pow! Horsey Sauce! |
| 04:23.12 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 04:23.58 | findlay-w | -chat ~eat |
| 04:23.58 | brac | ~eat went |
| 04:23.59 | ibot | ACTION eats went and falls over dead |
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| 04:27.25 | Supaplex | ~eat a botsnack |
| 04:27.25 | ibot | Supaplex: aw, gee |
| 04:28.08 | findlay-w | ~qwertyuioplkjhgfdsazxcvbnmbotsnack |
| 04:28.08 | ibot | findlay-w: aw, gee |
| 04:28.12 | findlay-w | heh |
| 04:28.31 | findlay-w | ~hi |
| 04:28.31 | ibot | hello, findlay-w |
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| 04:32.52 | levi | Aaagh. |
| 04:35.03 | Supaplex | no levi, it's ARRRG! |
| 04:36.59 | Supaplex | ~onjoin levi levi: ARRRG! Your packets be dropping from your leaky tubes! |
| 04:36.59 | ibot | Supaplex: ok |
| 04:42.08 | atoponce | talk like a pirate day past a few days ago gentelmen... |
| 04:46.33 | Supaplex | he's has to see it only once though. :) |
| 04:47.09 | Supaplex | besides, we should practice for next year. right? |
| 05:03.02 | Sargun | Two things I want from the Amazon store: |
| 05:03.06 | Sargun | 1) Linux support |
| 05:03.24 | Sargun | 2) When my MP3 fails to download automagical reactivation of the download link |
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| 05:32.36 | levi | Heh. |
| 05:32.47 | levi | Stupid Qwest. |
| 05:33.14 | levi | Just watched the pilot for Chuck. |
| 05:33.22 | Supaplex | :) |
| 05:35.34 | levi | Looks like it could be an interesting show. |
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| 14:08.28 | tensai | ~dude sjansen |
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| 15:12.46 | Det3 | 'morning all. |
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| 15:23.25 | levi | Morning. |
| 15:23.54 | levi | Hmm, I could pick up a Johnson amp for $80. But then I'd have to buy a guitar and learn how to play it... |
| 15:25.56 | Det3 | As an employee? |
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| 15:26.25 | Det3 | If so, I didn't know they still *made* Johnson amps. |
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| 15:30.06 | tensai | levi: just get Guitar Hero |
| 15:30.44 | mrpull | tensai: i heard a couple coworkers talking about mastering the latter levels of Guitar Hero and wondered why the hell they didn't just buy a real guitar |
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| 15:31.39 | tensai | mrpull: same reason you don't buy a derby car instead of playing mario kart |
| 15:32.50 | tensai | it's fun, that's all it is. there's even an open source clone now, which is pretty good. http://fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:32.52 | brac | [Frets On Fire] |
| 15:34.15 | mrpull | tensai: but some of the intricacies of GH sound as complicated as playing the real thing... I think having the skill to play a real guitar is preferable to playing a video game guitar |
| 15:34.41 | mrpull | plus... there isn't the element of danger with GH that there is with real racing. |
| 15:34.45 | mrpull | or cost |
| 15:38.10 | elg | you race guitars? |
| 15:39.39 | tensai | I play guitar too, but it's different. I think the analogy stands. |
| 15:40.12 | elg | that guitar is more dangerous than GH? |
| 15:40.15 | tensai | there are lots of ways to waste away your life playing video games and guitar hero is just one of them |
| 15:40.43 | tensai | elg: oh, yeah. you could break a nail or poke your eye out. it's non-stop danger. |
| 15:40.56 | elg | not to mention the swarming chicks |
| 15:41.08 | elg | esp. if you forgot to shave |
| 15:41.45 | tensai | almost as much as I hate having a beard |
| 15:42.08 | fozzmoo | I don't hate shaving... |
| 15:42.14 | fozzmoo | my skin hates shaving. |
| 15:42.57 | fozzmoo | Personally, I'd like to have laser hair removal from the sideburns down. |
| 15:43.27 | fozzmoo | Plus, it'd be a good way to shed a couple pounds. :) |
| 15:43.41 | tensai | agreed. and if I ever change my mind and want a moustache, well that's what magic markers are for. |
| 15:43.51 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 15:44.31 | elg | use permanent |
| 15:44.38 | elg | or you'll just have to reapply every day |
| 15:46.54 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The channel for content free discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | PLIG RFC: http://plig.jottit.com/ | Be elgcellent to eachother. | Achtung, Adventurers! IF Comp 2007 http://ifcomp.org/comp07 |
| 15:47.32 | fozzmoo | wow. http://www.3com.com/corpinfo/en_US/pressbox/press_release.jsp?INFO_ID=267070 |
| 15:47.50 | fozzmoo | [3Com and Digium Partner to Deliver 3Com Asterisk] |
| 15:47.59 | brac | [3Com Press Release: 10/01/2007 3Com and Digium Partner to Deliver 3Com Asterisk] |
| 15:48.11 | fozzmoo | That's certainly a hint of mainstream acceptance. |
| 15:48.51 | Jayce^ | very cool |
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| 15:51.12 | jsmith | fozzmoo: Yup :-) |
| 15:51.38 | fozzmoo | cool. |
| 15:53.55 | tensai | jsmith: still no comment on a possible deal with SER/OpenSER? the silence is deafening |
| 15:54.48 | jsmith | tensai: No, I don't think there's any reason for Digium to go do something like that |
| 15:55.05 | tensai | jsmith: well gee, ruin my fun |
| 15:55.18 | Jayce^ | jsmith, how about partnering with a good open-source billing system... |
| 15:55.19 | jsmith | tensai: There is no deafening silence here... just silence |
| 15:55.20 | tensai | I mean, of course that's what you'd say |
| 15:55.38 | jsmith | Jayce^: We have a partner program ;-) |
| 15:55.50 | Jayce^ | though did have a discussion about working more with openser too |
| 15:56.11 | jsmith | Yes, of course! |
| 15:56.25 | tensai | payphones are the wave of the future |
| 15:56.53 | jsmith | There's a world of difference between "working more closely" with SIP proxies and "buying out SER/OpenSER" |
| 15:57.40 | tensai | jsmith: yup. the former is what you're doing today, and the latter is for next week. |
| 15:58.24 | jsmith | tensai: No, I know of no discussions outside of you and tristanbob regarding any Digium plans to buy out SER or OpenSER |
| 15:58.35 | jsmith | tensai: Is that clear enough? |
| 15:58.57 | tensai | sure. I'll just wait for the press release then. :P |
| 16:00.11 | tristanbob | is 3com still in business? |
| 16:00.23 | jsmith | tristanbob: Yup... |
| 16:00.33 | tristanbob | :) I know, perhaps more internationally? |
| 16:01.15 | tristanbob | jsmith: I think the asterisk/3com deal is good - more exposure via resellers pushing it! |
| 16:01.38 | tristanbob | 3com doesn't really add any technlogy, correct? just sales and maybe support? |
| 16:01.45 | jsmith | tristanbob: Not to mention having 3com's global services arm standing behind it |
| 16:01.55 | tristanbob | well - there is the provisioning of 3com phones (they have phones) |
| 16:02.10 | jsmith | tristanbob: As I understand it, 3com will be doing some custom branding, as well as a lot of additional interop testing |
| 16:02.21 | tristanbob | jsmith: testing is good |
| 16:02.22 | jsmith | tristanbob: I don't know beyond that... I haven't been part of those meetings. |
| 16:02.49 | tristanbob | jsmith: too busy in community discussions on IRC (I can't believe that is part of your job description) :) |
| 16:03.36 | tensai | tristanbob: sorry, that's my fault. I've been teasing him. |
| 16:04.17 | jsmith | tristanbob: Yes, hanging out in IRC is part of my job description. Unfortunately, I've got a lot of other things to do as well :-) |
| 16:05.13 | tristanbob | like version 3 of your book |
| 16:05.24 | tristanbob | the ink is already dry on version 2, so it is outdated |
| 16:05.25 | sjansen | ~shave tensai |
| 16:05.26 | ibot | ACTION grabs the razor & shaving cream & chases tensai until he sees TheRedBaron... then grabs TheRedbaron & dry shaves TheRedBaron from head to toe! |
| 16:07.00 | findlay-w | -chat about ~shave |
| 16:07.00 | brac | ~shave did |
| 16:07.01 | ibot | ACTION grabs the razor & shaving cream & chases did until he sees TheRedBaron... then grabs TheRedbaron & dry shaves TheRedBaron from head to toe! |
| 16:10.18 | levi | Det3: They don't make them anymore, which is why these are being auctioned off so cheap to employees. |
| 16:10.54 | Det3 | levi: Aha. Thought so. Can you get 2? The one with the 2120 board in ti? |
| 16:11.08 | Det3 | levi: I would gladly purchase one from you, but I wouldn't use it as an amp at all. |
| 16:11.09 | findlay-w | ~date |
| 16:11.09 | ibot | It is now 2007.10.02 16:11:09 GMT |
| 16:11.15 | Det3 | ~foo |
| 16:11.16 | ibot | hmm... foo is bar |
| 16:11.20 | Det3 | ~bar |
| 16:11.20 | ibot | bar is probably baz or a friend of foo |
| 16:11.26 | Det3 | ~xyzzy |
| 16:11.27 | ibot | nothing happens |
| 16:11.32 | Det3 | ~gue |
| 16:11.35 | Det3 | ~grue |
| 16:11.36 | ibot | i heard grue is something you have to watch out for if you don't have a light. |
| 16:11.46 | Det3 | Sweet. |
| 16:12.26 | levi | Det3: Part of the agreement is not reselling them for a year. |
| 16:13.23 | Det3 | levi: Hm. What about giving? :-) I could just happen to loan you $100 for a year, and you'd just 'loan' me the johnson for a year, and voila! Loophole exploited. |
| 16:13.28 | Det3 | That is, if it's worded that way. |
| 16:14.09 | Det3 | Then again, what I'd really *love* is a stereo 2120. |
| 16:14.16 | Det3 | Stereo distortion for my keys... mmmmmm. |
| 16:14.19 | tensai | Det3: buy a $100 guitar pick, get an amp for free |
| 16:14.29 | Det3 | tensai: EXACTLY! |
| 16:15.12 | tensai | is an agreement like that even legally binding? |
| 16:15.19 | tensai | it just seems so wrong |
| 16:15.22 | Det3 | No, but it can get you fired. |
| 16:16.28 | Det3 | Harman *loves* exploiting loopholes. |
| 16:16.49 | findlay-w | stupid ATT |
| 16:16.53 | findlay-w | ~destroy ATT |
| 16:16.54 | ibot | no |
| 16:16.55 | Det3 | When I was laid off, two weeks before they told me not to worry because the layoffs weren't going to affect engineering. |
| 16:16.59 | elg | ATT exploits findlay-w |
| 16:17.32 | Det3 | However, I got the boot. It was a legally-sound yet ethically-challenged firing. |
| 16:17.37 | findlay-w | ~anialate ATT |
| 16:17.58 | Det3 | Especially when they hired someone a month before the layoffs that was in my exact position. |
| 16:18.07 | findlay-w | they made so that in state phone calls with their phone card use double minutes |
| 16:18.20 | findlay-w | way to show love for your customers |
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| 16:26.16 | levi | det3: Only the JT50 is $80. I'm still on the fence about whether I want to learn to play the guitar, though. |
| 16:27.58 | levi | http://scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=277 |
| 16:28.09 | Det3 | levi: I have no reason to use it for guitar. I'd plug in my Juno. :-) |
| 16:28.36 | levi | That's hilarious. Some Australian ad ripped off this guy's quantum physics lecture to sell printers. |
| 16:28.49 | Det3 | wow. |
| 16:29.17 | elg | and his bandwidth, apparently |
| 16:30.17 | fozzmoo | yep |
| 16:32.14 | tensai | "This Account Has Exceeded Its CPU Quota" |
| 16:40.27 | levi | Heh, this guy is an idiot: http://www.beust.com/weblog/archives/000464.html |
| 16:40.30 | brac | [Otaku, Cedric's weblog: Erlang: the verdict] |
| 16:41.37 | levi | Anyway, the ad had a couple of runway models getting all done up to go out and strut their stuff, and they're quoting lines from his lecture. The tagline is, 'A smarter model.' |
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| 16:56.14 | elg | gah |
| 16:56.21 | elg | syntax is not what makes erlang scalable! |
| 16:57.50 | elg | haha, this is great. |
| 16:58.17 | elg | "erlang claims X. I'm not convinced. I think it can be done in (amazingly convoluted and rationalized java approach). QED" |
| 17:03.55 | findlay-w | quantum electrodynamics? |
| 17:03.57 | elg | -lart *mcnabb |
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| 17:07.04 | bonez39 | Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/etch/Release Unable to find expected entry main/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 17:07.09 | bonez39 | what might cause that error? |
| 17:07.30 | bonez39 | i am NOT running etch...but sarge.on this box...i have NO reference in sources.list to etch anything... |
| 17:15.24 | sjansen | bonez39: You're still using Debian? No one uses Debian anymore. We've all switched to Feduntu. |
| 17:15.46 | findlay-w | sjansen: no it's Sufuduntu |
| 17:15.55 | JoshH | does it say stable or sarge? |
| 17:15.55 | findlay-w | sjansen: no it's Sufeduntu |
| 17:16.29 | findlay-w | feduntse |
| 17:17.07 | findlay-w | feduntsetoo |
| 17:17.29 | findlay-w | ~feduntsetoo herlo |
| 17:17.57 | bonez39 | sjansen: yeah, I still like debian... |
| 17:19.29 | sjansen | All the cool kids switched from Linux to Amiga OS weeks ago. |
| 17:19.42 | findlay-w | you're still on Amiga OS? |
| 17:20.04 | sjansen | The ultra-cool are already thinking about switching to OS/2, but I think they're just posers. |
| 17:20.28 | JoshH | bonez39: if your sources.list says stable, then it's etch, check that |
| 17:21.11 | bonez39 | JoshH: it was lurking in sources.list.d in a winehq entry....... |
| 17:21.17 | bonez39 | got it fixed now |
| 17:23.36 | findlay-w | ~weather |
| 17:23.39 | findlay-w | ~weather kpvu |
| 17:27.22 | sjansen | ~quote scox |
| 17:27.54 | decriptor | aren't they delisted yet |
| 17:29.09 | elg | -metar klru |
| 17:29.10 | brac | KLRU 021716Z AUTO 36004KT 10SM CLR 27/17 A3023 RMK AO2 |
| 17:29.21 | elg | -metar kpvu |
| 17:29.21 | brac | KPVU 021449Z 00000KT 15SM FEW120 06/00 A3035 |
| 17:29.38 | elg | deliciously chilly |
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| 17:40.54 | sjansen | I've been to Redmond before. |
| 17:41.41 | atoponce | sjansen: this is what happens: http://xkcd.com/323/ |
| 17:41.43 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 17:41.53 | sjansen | In fact, I bought a Gorillaz CD at a Target in Redmond, WA. |
| 17:41.56 | atoponce | everone gets drunk, and you turn into Windows ME |
| 17:42.50 | sjansen | Not true. I didn't get drunk and write Windows ME. I bought weird chocolate from an organic grocery store and taught Linux. |
| 17:43.01 | atoponce | heh |
| 17:43.17 | sjansen | Turn out chocolate and ginger don't go well together. |
| 17:43.24 | sjansen | Neither do chocolate and wasabi. |
| 17:43.39 | atoponce | nor do chocolate and grapefruit juice |
| 17:43.39 | sjansen | Neither do chocolate and chilis. |
| 17:44.16 | atoponce | nor... what an odd word |
| 17:44.27 | sjansen | http://blogs.gurulabs.com/stuart/archives/2006/09/eatin_good_in_t.html |
| 17:44.28 | brac | [Stuart's Blog: Eatin' Good In The (Tacoma) Neighborhood] |
| 17:44.49 | sjansen | For some reason, it's really easy to buy weird chocolate in WA. |
| 17:46.18 | Jayce^ | sjansen, mmm, tacoma |
| 17:46.23 | Jayce^ | the aroma of tacoma |
| 17:46.53 | sjansen | which reminds me, curry and chocolate don't go well together either. |
| 17:47.13 | Jayce^ | you still gotta hit tillicum village sometime |
| 17:47.41 | jsmith | sjansen: But dijon mustard ice cream in gazpacho is actually good |
| 17:47.56 | Jayce^ | and you gotta hit more berries while you're there |
| 17:49.42 | Jayce^ | mmm, cochinhas |
| 17:51.01 | sjansen | Jayce^: Watch it or I'll be forced to drop $100 on dinner at Fogo de Chao here in Houston. |
| 17:53.24 | Jayce^ | go ahead |
| 17:53.56 | Jayce^ | coxinha, kibe, pasteis, pao de queijo, guarana... um bom almoco |
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| 17:56.27 | sjansen | jerk |
| 17:57.13 | sjansen | All Fogo de Chao doesn't have pasteis or coxinhas. |
| 17:57.43 | sjansen | You can't honestly claim you like kibe, though. |
| 18:05.22 | elg | -say I like kibe |
| 18:05.22 | brac | insufficient "say" auth (have 10, need 70) |
| 18:05.29 | elg | ~say sjansen likes kibe |
| 18:05.29 | ibot | sjansen likes kibe |
| 18:08.21 | goozbach | sjansen: chocolate and chillies DO go whel togethere |
| 18:08.27 | goozbach | it's called mole |
| 18:09.23 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_%28sauce%29 |
| 18:10.21 | maquis | mmm... mole! |
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| 18:16.00 | Migs | what's a great FOSS ghosting solution? Something to deploy images to clients |
| 18:21.30 | levi | Mmm, mole. |
| 18:21.53 | levi | sjansen: You're in Tacoma? |
| 18:22.33 | levi | sjansen: Wave to my parents for me. |
| 18:23.18 | levi | sjansen: And I can't believe you didn't like ginger in chocolate. That's one of my favorites. |
| 18:23.27 | levi | sjansen: Was it the choco-love variety? |
| 18:25.36 | levi | Anyway, I got my zeroconf stuff working, so I am happy. |
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| 18:41.58 | Supaplex | Migs: besides dd and, netcat or ssh? |
| 18:44.01 | Migs | um, yeah |
| 18:44.12 | Migs | something that I could use to deploy actual disk images I've created |
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| 18:46.48 | Migs | the idea is that I could automate the process to occur nightly, so every computer rolls back to the original image |
| 18:47.50 | Sargun | Pandora is being stupid right now |
| 18:47.52 | Sargun | ~lart pandora |
| 18:47.52 | ibot | beats pandora severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 18:48.09 | Supaplex | I've heard of linuxghost, but I have no idea if that's automation friendly or not. |
| 18:49.27 | Migs | hmmm http://udpcast.linux.lu/ |
| 18:49.37 | Supaplex | with a little work, you could use mkfs+tar+grub if it's linux only. If you're flattening multiple machines at once, you'll want wol+multicasting |
| 18:50.20 | Migs | I might have to worry about Windows machines, though. Possibly even Macs |
| 18:50.26 | Migs | maybe those can be handled separately |
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| 18:51.09 | Supaplex | I think ondemand would be better than nightly. your users better learn quick to keep data saved to the network or something external |
| 18:51.10 | Sargun | vlc works |
| 18:54.22 | Migs | I'm intending to set up a shared server for all the user files, yeah |
| 18:56.55 | sjansen | Migs: System Imager |
| 18:57.17 | sjansen | updcast works well for imaging windows machines |
| 18:57.46 | Migs | oh, okay |
| 18:59.12 | Migs | I think it'll end up being both on demand AND nightly |
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| 19:46.22 | elg | -chat interactive fiction |
| 19:46.23 | brac | interactive fiction (a la yellowbeard) sounds like my windows computer... |
| 19:53.25 | Zelut | can anyone tell me how to tell a debian/ubuntu netboot installer to pull from a local mirror vs the suggested? |
| 19:53.57 | Zelut | booting the netboot installer suggests archive.ubuntu.com as the repository and its not clear how to change that. |
| 20:07.15 | levi | Zelut: I'd like to know the answer to that if you figure it out. |
| 20:08.59 | brasto | is there a command to echo a distro? |
| 20:09.11 | atoponce | uname -a? |
| 20:09.33 | atoponce | i guess that doesn't give the "distro" though |
| 20:09.37 | Zelut | levi: I'm getting closer.. i may have an answer soon |
| 20:09.43 | Zelut | atoponce: cat /etc/*release |
| 20:09.50 | brasto | atoponce - not exactly what I'm looking for... e.g.: uname -a |
| 20:09.50 | brasto | Linux host5 2.6.9-34.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Feb 24 16:56:28 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 20:09.58 | Sargun | Linux god 2.6.22-gentoo-SuperHacked #1 SMP Tue Jul 10 09:20:12 PDT 2007 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 20:10.06 | brasto | that does not tell me it's rhel 5 |
| 20:10.11 | atoponce | Linux achilles 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 18 22:50:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:10.19 | elg | /etc/issue |
| 20:10.30 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 20:11.51 | Sargun | Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9 |
| 20:11.57 | Sargun | install gento |
| 20:12.00 | Sargun | emerge gento |
| 20:12.25 | Zelut | hmm.. now I need to figure out how to convert an ubuntu CD to an apt-mirror |
| 20:12.46 | atoponce | purge gento |
| 20:12.52 | Sargun | purge atoponce |
| 20:13.00 | Supaplex | buff it until it shines ;) |
| 20:13.24 | brasto | Zelut, that worked: |
| 20:13.26 | sontek | Linux netnanny 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 #2 Mon Jul 16 16:30:43 MDT 2007 i686 Pentium III (Katmai) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 20:13.30 | brasto | cat /etc/*release |
| 20:13.30 | brasto | Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant Update 3) |
| 20:13.31 | sontek | :P |
| 20:13.33 | *** join/#utah fozzmoo (n=fozz@66.7.122.158) |
| 20:13.36 | Sargun | sontek, net nanny? |
| 20:13.46 | sontek | Sargun: Its my nagios box |
| 20:13.49 | Sargun | Oh. |
| 20:13.50 | sontek | so its my netnanny =) |
| 20:13.59 | Sargun | Nagis running on a P3? |
| 20:14.01 | brasto | why does ibot sometimes MOOOO! ? |
| 20:14.09 | sontek | Sargun: I wouldn't waste a box for it :P |
| 20:14.12 | Sargun | when fozzmoo joins he moos |
| 20:14.16 | sjansen | Oh come on, at least name it marrypoppins.example.com or something. |
| 20:14.22 | atoponce | Sargun: having trouble with your 'o's? |
| 20:14.23 | fozzmoo | moo |
| 20:14.25 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:14.32 | Sargun | sontek, Our Nagios boxes at work are 2xdual core Opterons |
| 20:14.34 | sjansen | meow? |
| 20:14.37 | Sargun | with 8Gb of RAM |
| 20:14.51 | fozzmoo | Sargun: That's just overkill. |
| 20:14.53 | sontek | Sargun: thats just a waste of a good gaming machine |
| 20:14.54 | sontek | ;) |
| 20:14.54 | Sargun | Heh. |
| 20:14.55 | fozzmoo | Nagios is Java. |
| 20:15.04 | Sargun | sontek, Video card is like a Rage something |
| 20:15.05 | fozzmoo | s/java/not java/ |
| 20:15.09 | Sargun | fozzmoo, Uhhh.... |
| 20:15.15 | Sargun | Yeah, It's C, and Perl. |
| 20:15.25 | fozzmoo | It should be fine on a Pentium III |
| 20:15.26 | sjansen | All the cool kids are using Zenoss instead of Nagios. |
| 20:15.42 | Sargun | fozzmoo, We don't have any P3s |
| 20:15.46 | sjansen | You want to be cool, right? |
| 20:15.49 | fozzmoo | All the cool kids are exploring bisexuality too. |
| 20:15.53 | Sargun | o.O |
| 20:16.02 | fozzmoo | what's your point? |
| 20:16.03 | sjansen | Really? I must've missed that day at school. |
| 20:16.22 | sjansen | It's IRC, who said I need to have a point? |
| 20:16.25 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 20:17.11 | sjansen | ~point fozzmoo |
| 20:17.12 | ibot | ACTION points at fozzmoo with snickers and giggles |
| 20:17.25 | sontek | I want to be a cool kid |
| 20:17.35 | sontek | but if I try to emerge zenoss it'll take 3 days |
| 20:18.25 | sjansen | ~laugh sontek |
| 20:18.26 | ibot | ibot laughs hysterically at sontek...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 20:18.47 | atoponce | heh |
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| 20:19.04 | Supaplex | sontek: ask Sargun to do it. |
| 20:20.57 | sjansen | So I'm goint to exciting Des Moine, Iowa next week. Never been there. Anyone know where the good food and bad neighborhoods are? |
| 20:21.11 | Sargun | nowhere, and everywhere :-P |
| 20:25.30 | Supaplex | sjansen: hehe, /topic #iowa |
| 20:44.17 | elg | *shudder* |
| 20:44.53 | elg | from the perspective of a reader of papers, let alone writing them |
| 20:49.40 | Supaplex | hideous |
| 20:49.42 | tensai | well, that was rude. qwest bounced my phone line. |
| 20:49.57 | tensai | I think they even bounced by dial tone |
| 20:52.49 | jsmith | tensai: They're doing you a favor... really they are |
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| 20:53.05 | tristanbob | sjansen: zenoss, groundworks (nagios), and hyperic are the big 3 right? |
| 20:53.10 | sjansen | I dream of a future without LaTeX. Someday I dream we'll have something even better. |
| 20:53.22 | tristanbob | vinyl gloves are a big hit |
| 20:53.27 | sjansen | Maybe XHTML 5.0 k+ MathML 42. |
| 20:53.37 | sjansen | Or maybe something I design and write. |
| 20:53.51 | sjansen | Perhaps I could even use it write encyclopedic tomes about computer science. |
| 20:54.07 | elg | no doubt we could have something better |
| 20:54.15 | elg | no doubt xhtml+mathml ain't it |
| 20:54.16 | Supaplex | tensai: the lines on the qwest go flap flap flap, allll through the day. |
| 20:54.24 | sjansen | And people would remember my name forever as "that other guy who also created a beautiful document layout program". |
| 20:54.36 | jsmith | sjansen: DocBook + MathML? |
| 20:54.42 | sjansen | s/guy/bald guy/ |
| 20:54.59 | elg | s/bald/bald and bearded/ |
| 20:55.10 | Supaplex | sjansen: you make up for the baldness with the beard. |
| 20:55.10 | sjansen | Is Knuth bearded? |
| 20:55.23 | elg | probably? |
| 20:55.45 | sjansen | http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/ <-- Nope, looks like I'll have to lose the beard some day. |
| 20:55.49 | elg | nope, guess not |
| 20:55.51 | jsmith | I always assumed he was |
| 20:56.13 | elg | http://www.knuthfacts.com/pics/Knuth3.jpg |
| 20:56.20 | elg | a name like knuth |
| 20:56.35 | elg | it's screaming, "viking descendant!" |
| 20:56.45 | elg | i'm surprised he doesn't wear a helmet with horns |
| 20:58.15 | elg | if latex hadn't been created by the time word perfect became popular, scientific papers would be ugly byproducts of word processors |
| 20:58.27 | elg | in some fields, they are anyway. |
| 20:58.47 | elg | luckily mathematics was (still is?) hard to typeset in word processors |
| 21:00.00 | elg | but if latex hadn't been around, someone would have written a word processor with easyish mathematical typesetting and we wouldn't have the elegance and beauty thrust upon us that tex and latex do so well (unless you want another variant of elegance and beauty) |
| 21:00.13 | sjansen | http://www.knuthfacts.com/index.php?factId=11 |
| 21:00.14 | brac | [Donald E. Knuth - Facts] |
| 21:00.41 | sjansen | http://www.knuthfacts.com/index.php?factId=6 |
| 21:00.41 | brac | [Donald E. Knuth - Facts] |
| 21:00.52 | sjansen | http://www.knuthfacts.com/index.php?factId=5 |
| 21:00.52 | brac | [Donald E. Knuth - Facts] |
| 21:01.09 | redbeard2 | ~defenestrate sjansen |
| 21:01.10 | ibot | ACTION uses an oversized sling shot to launch sjansen out the nearest window |
| 21:01.59 | elg | " |
| 21:02.04 | elg | Donald E. Knuth writes his books in constant time. The constant is very big." |
| 21:03.52 | tensai | sjansen: the bad parts of Des Moines are the ones south of Minnesota |
| 21:04.56 | tensai | sjansen: http://www.roadfood.com/Restaurants/SearchResults.aspx?st=restaurants&ps=1&s=IA&c=des%20moines&kw=&pkw=&ob=restaurantname |
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| 21:19.07 | sargun-palm | hey |
| 21:19.12 | sargun-palm | sup all |
| 21:19.56 | sargun-palm | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.03 | elg | your palm |
| 21:22.27 | sargun-palm | my palm is sweet |
| 21:22.36 | elg | mine is salty |
| 21:22.59 | sargun-palm | I wonder when the treo 755P is going to be marked implementation quality |
| 21:23.33 | elg | 3 weeks from friday. any other questions? |
| 21:23.43 | elg | i thought not |
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| 21:53.14 | redbeard2 | does anyone have access to a large-format printer? |
| 21:56.39 | tensai | redbeard2: how large (not that I have one either way) |
| 21:57.05 | redbeard2 | tensai: poster-size |
| 21:57.37 | Supaplex | redbeard2: my hp5 si does 11x17 |
| 21:58.08 | redbeard2 | Supaplex: i need larger. size C or D would be nice. |
| 21:58.23 | redbeard2 | my sister used to work for a company that had a few around, but that was years and years ago |
| 21:58.35 | dataw0lf | man I thought you were talking about something else |
| 21:59.13 | redbeard2 | wow. see, that's what i get for asking in #utah, right? |
| 22:00.07 | Supaplex | dataw0lf needs a gag gift sometime soon. |
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| 22:21.59 | tristanbob | http://www.3com.com/voip/3com_asterisk.html |
| 22:22.00 | brac | [3Com | 3Com Asterisk] |
| 22:22.28 | tristanbob | "The 3ComĀ® Asterisk solution, able to support up to 25 concurrent SIP calls" |
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| 22:57.00 | levi | Here's the quantum physics ad story on BoingBoing, this time: http://www.boingboing.net/2007/10/02/physics-lecture-crib.html |
| 22:57.42 | tensai | that poor guy's web server |
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