| 00:04.11 | levi | And he wants the work written out in a specifc, tedious way. |
| 00:05.00 | levi | Like, writing out tables, all the results of the sums, divisions, etc. you have to perform on all the elements, etc. |
| 00:05.07 | sargun_work | nick125, |
| 00:05.24 | Tene | levi: no writing a script to generate LaTeX tables of such for you? |
| 00:05.29 | Tene | ;) |
| 00:05.50 | levi | Tene: Oh, I could do that if I wanted to. |
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| 00:08.14 | elg | levi: my pity |
| 00:08.32 | elg | hand-writing tables and intermediate sums and the like is dinosaur work |
| 00:08.37 | elg | there's a reason they went extinct. |
| 00:17.39 | levi | elg: Indeed. Just ask me to write down the equations you want to be sure I know, and let me get the answers however I please. |
| 00:20.23 | harleypig | Does anyone know of a fax service I can use to send a fax from my computer to a recipient's fax machine? |
| 00:20.39 | harleypig | Prefereably free, but on the cheap (but reliable) will be ifne. |
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| 00:29.14 | Tene | levi: a saga? is it storytime? |
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| 00:31.01 | Tene | Fozz! You showed up just in time! Levi is going to tell us a story about Tim Bray Erlang! |
| 00:32.37 | fozzmoo | erlang. Fun. |
| 00:37.59 | harleypig | Argghh ... I can find services that'll let me send a single fax, but I have to sign up for a monthly fee. |
| 00:38.20 | harleypig | All I want to do is send *ONE* fax from my home computer. Is that too much to ask for? |
| 00:40.14 | Tene | harleypig: I've heard the name "efax" before. |
| 00:41.03 | harleypig | yeah, they want to charge |
| 00:41.10 | harleypig | I don't have a problem with that |
| 00:41.49 | harleypig | they just don't have a way for me to buy, say, 5 and just forget the last 4 |
| 00:42.41 | harleypig | Heck, I'd be willing to just buy a lump amount and lose the rest ... but I'm not signing up for a monthly subscription |
| 00:45.40 | harleypig | faxfreedom looks really interesting: send/receive 100 for 9.95 |
| 00:45.58 | harleypig | But it's another auto subscription |
| 00:46.30 | elg | harleypig: yeah, it's a pain |
| 00:46.44 | elg | there should be an a la carte solution for people like us who have to send like 3 faxes in a year |
| 00:46.50 | elg | and never need to receive them |
| 00:46.59 | harleypig | wow ... 300 for 7.99/month at ringcentral |
| 00:47.37 | elg | there is one that you put money in the account |
| 00:47.43 | harleypig | elg, truly |
| 00:47.45 | elg | it's not a monthly subscription, per se |
| 00:47.50 | harleypig | url? |
| 00:47.51 | elg | though there is a $1/mo charge |
| 00:47.53 | elg | let me look |
| 00:48.19 | elg | faxaway.com |
| 00:48.40 | harleypig | thx |
| 00:48.50 | elg | the $1/mo comes out of your lump sum, so it can last for a long time between babysitting |
| 00:49.11 | elg | i just canceled because my $10 ran out finally and I hadn't sent a single fax in the last year |
| 00:49.24 | harleypig | huh |
| 00:49.27 | elg | rather than send them updated credit card info |
| 00:51.20 | harleypig | thx, looks like that might be what I'm looking for. |
| 00:51.22 | vontrapp_ | efax sends you lots of spam, too |
| 00:51.22 | vontrapp_ | stay away |
| 00:52.27 | harleypig | aghhh ... I can't sign up online! |
| 00:52.40 | vontrapp | if you have a modem i'm sure you could send one with some kind of program easily enough |
| 00:53.03 | harleypig | Oddly enough, I do have a modem ... I don't have a phone line. |
| 00:53.06 | harleypig | :] |
| 00:53.15 | vontrapp | haha |
| 01:06.22 | elg | i don't either or I'd let you send it through me via hylafax |
| 01:07.23 | harleypig | :] thanks for thinking of me though |
| 01:07.57 | vontrapp | elg: can't you dial phones with your asterisk? |
| 01:08.01 | elg | sure |
| 01:08.07 | elg | but I don't have a phone line |
| 01:08.17 | elg | fax over voip is a recipe for grey hair |
| 01:09.36 | nick125 | elg: Nah. It's more like going bald. |
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| 01:20.32 | nick125 | http://www.scribd.com/doc/305601/Jayne-v-Google |
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| 01:22.37 | nick125 | I can't wait until that lawsuit gets thrown out. |
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| 03:20.34 | atoponce | meh. flash |
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| 03:28.56 | Supaplex | flash is tEh overrated |
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| 03:49.31 | levi | Tene: Sorry, class ended and I had to hurry home. |
| 03:49.45 | levi | At least I had to hurry as fast as I could through the nasty traffic. |
| 03:49.51 | Tene | Heh. |
| 03:50.52 | levi | Anyway, Tim Bray heard how cool Erlang was, and decided he'd try it out. |
| 03:51.20 | levi | Except, instead of doing network protocols or something, he decided to do log file parsing. |
| 03:52.09 | levi | And, as it turns out, Erlang isn't especially good at dealing with large local files, since you don't run into that kind of thing very often in a telephone switch. |
| 03:52.50 | levi | So, clearly Erlang is useless to Tim Bray, since even the lowly Ruby can parse his log files faster. |
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| 03:54.03 | levi | Meanwhile, the reasonable people on the Internet collectively roll their eyes and move on. |
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| 04:09.09 | beandog | any xml experts around |
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| 04:16.09 | Sargun | No, why? |
| 04:16.23 | Sargun | Ebuilds In XML? |
| 04:20.00 | beandog | no |
| 04:20.01 | beandog | scriptures |
| 04:20.13 | beandog | I just wanna make sure Im doing this right |
| 04:20.40 | beandog | http://mdp.nephi.org/download/scriptures/3.0rc1/scriptures.xml.bz2 |
| 04:20.42 | beandog | if you wanna look at it |
| 04:20.46 | beandog | I gotta go to bed, Im getting sick |
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| 05:23.19 | levi | Huh, Benford's Law is pretty wild: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford's_law |
| 05:29.26 | vontrapp_ | beandog: you seriously just sat down and typed up the entire standard works into xml? |
| 05:29.37 | Sargun | heh |
| 05:29.46 | Sargun | I think he probably had it in some other format |
| 05:30.10 | beandog | vontrapp: no, sql export I made |
| 05:30.16 | beandog | vontrapp: http://scriptures.nephi.org |
| 05:30.17 | brac | [Mormon Documentation Project: The Scriptures] |
| 05:30.22 | Sargun | A bean dog is still alive! |
| 05:30.55 | vontrapp | beandog: i think id's are supposed to be unique in the entire document |
| 05:30.59 | beandog | I just barely came back to look at something |
| 05:31.22 | vontrapp | so you would need id="book_x" or "vs_x" etc instead of just "x" |
| 05:31.26 | vontrapp | where x is some number |
| 05:32.29 | vontrapp | i guess that depends on the xmlns though |
| 05:32.49 | vontrapp | what is pilcrow? |
| 05:34.16 | beandog | that little paragaph symbol |
| 05:39.51 | Sargun | this seems neat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Card |
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| 13:40.34 | brac | [: : which ringwraith are you? : :] |
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| 13:43.34 | redbeard2 | ~lart sjansen |
| 13:43.34 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, sjansen, this won't hurt a bit...." |
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| 14:56.14 | sjansen | You know, I think Linux Fundamentals is my favorite class. |
| 14:56.30 | sjansen | It's fun teaching people all kinds of command line tricks. |
| 14:56.53 | sjansen | It's also fun teaching people Vim and showing off how powerful it is. |
| 14:57.28 | sontek | sjansen: do you teach them stuff like CTRL+R? |
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| 15:00.26 | sjansen | As it happens, I just did that 2 minutes ago. |
| 15:00.59 | sjansen | history, !, ctrl-r, esc-. and alt-. |
| 15:02.36 | sontek | what do the esc ones do? |
| 15:02.43 | sjansen | In the GL material we go even farther and teach them even more mysterious tricks like: ^display^soundcard |
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| 15:04.50 | sjansen | sontek Try it for yourself: mkdir tmp ; cd tmp/ ; touch {foo,bar,baz}{qux,quux,corge}{grault,garply,waldo}fred ; tar cvf backup.tar esc-. |
| 15:06.17 | sjansen | The think I love about teaching fundamentals is that it isn't really. It's fundamentals and a healthy helping of magic too. |
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| 15:07.26 | brasto | ~abit |
| 15:07.26 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, abit is http://www.abit-usa.com, or the slowest site in the world |
| 15:10.19 | brasto | ~dict abit |
| 15:10.48 | brasto | I don't think that's what Adam meant either... |
| 15:10.52 | brasto | ~wiki abit |
| 15:12.19 | brasto | ok, I don't think "abit accredited" refers to the hardware manufacturer or whatever that dictionary definition says... anyone know what it is? |
| 15:12.54 | Supaplex | depends on who/what is abit accredited |
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| 15:13.27 | Supaplex | eg, who/what would have the accreditation |
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| 15:17.49 | brasto | it's in the email from Adam Fisher in PLUG entitled Re: Best Computer Science School in Utah |
| 15:18.07 | brasto | It is my understanding that UVSC, BYU, and UofU are the only ABIT accredited schools in Utah. |
| 15:18.16 | brasto | that's what Adam said, not me |
| 15:19.01 | RyanE | I think they mean ABET |
| 15:19.11 | RyanE | http://www.abet.org/ |
| 15:19.12 | brac | [ABET] |
| 15:19.43 | RyanE | ... accreditor for college and university programs in applied science, computing, engineering, and technology ... |
| 15:21.20 | brasto | ah... that makes more sense... I'll ask him to clarify just in case. |
| 15:21.39 | levi | Yes, he meant ABET. |
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| 15:24.04 | brasto | ~abet |
| 15:24.05 | ibot | i heard abet is to encourage or assist, or what a gambler with a broken space bar might say. |
| 15:24.18 | brasto | lol |
| 15:24.22 | brasto | ~dict abet |
| 15:24.42 | brasto | ~wiki abet |
| 15:29.32 | levi | UVSC just recently got the ABET accreditation, so it's mentioned a lot. |
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| 15:47.04 | RyanE | does anyone know how to send X keypresses over the network? Like LIRC, but not over IR? |
| 15:56.53 | fungus | http://syngergy2.sf.net does, but only after it repackages it a little. |
| 15:57.28 | fungus | s/syngergy2/synergy2/ |
| 15:58.15 | maquis | 1 year!!!! |
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| 16:01.09 | goozbach | komodo edit has VI keybindings!!!!! |
| 16:01.33 | Supaplex | goozbach: so why not use vim? |
| 16:01.42 | maquis | has anybody used eclim here? |
| 16:01.47 | Supaplex | switch/use-it-to/ |
| 16:02.01 | sontek | besides the fact that komodo has a debugger and intellisense? =) |
| 16:02.37 | sontek | and they have an api for adding on more languages |
| 16:02.48 | Supaplex | I think vim/gvim has intellisense, if you figure out how to configure it |
| 16:04.32 | levi | Supaplex: Sort of. |
| 16:04.42 | sontek | Supaplex: well, vim has CTRL+N,CTRL+P which reads from the buffer,they added intellisense in vim7 but it still needs to be built for a lot of languages |
| 16:04.45 | levi | I always accidentally trigger it when my emacs fingers take over. |
| 16:04.46 | Supaplex | yeah, I have yet to try it |
| 16:04.49 | dataw0lf | http://insenvim.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:04.50 | brac | [Vim Intellisense] |
| 16:05.09 | Supaplex | hehe 'emacs fingers' - nice |
| 16:05.18 | sontek | dataw0lf: that project is windows only |
| 16:05.23 | sontek | dataw0lf: for the C# plugin anyways |
| 16:05.56 | levi | I primarily use emacs, but I often use vim for quick editing jobs, and sometimes it takes a little bit to switch gears. |
| 16:07.32 | sontek | i've been playing with emacs lately |
| 16:07.39 | sontek | it has pretty good gdb integration |
| 16:07.56 | sontek | thats the reason I started playing with it over vim |
| 16:08.25 | levi | emacs is great at integrating with things because it's extension model supports it better. |
| 16:08.37 | levi | its |
| 16:09.46 | levi | It's not without fault, either, but it's got a lot of software inertia. |
| 16:09.59 | Supaplex | ' typos are fun huh? .oO( Where did that come from? grr. ) |
| 16:11.09 | levi | Man, three different words made of i-t-s in two sentences. |
| 16:11.23 | levi | Possessive it, 'it is', and 'it has' |
| 16:11.59 | levi | This is why I think programming languages modeled after natural ones are insane. ;) |
| 16:12.40 | Supaplex | you imply there is nothing natural about natural languages. |
| 16:13.42 | levi | No, I imply that natural languages end up with messy corner cases that people often screw up, even when they know better. |
| 16:14.13 | Supaplex | ahhh |
| 16:15.03 | levi | The 'its' thing is a collision of a bunch of reasonable rules designed to make writing stuff easier and more natural, but ends up causing nothing but grief in this instance. |
| 16:18.36 | sjansen | goozbach: Vi or Vim key bindings? |
| 16:18.45 | maquis | ooh! |
| 16:18.53 | maquis | we sell drm-free mp3 downloads now! |
| 16:19.03 | Tene | maquis: orly? interesting. |
| 16:19.51 | maquis | yeah |
| 16:20.09 | Tene | levi: current test output of kp6-clisp: http://sial.org/pbot/27722 |
| 16:20.16 | maquis | cool |
| 16:20.40 | Tene | maquis: link? |
| 16:20.44 | goozbach | sjansen: how do I tell the difference? |
| 16:20.49 | goozbach | ctrl-d? |
| 16:21.17 | sjansen | Multiple undo is one thing I refuse to give up. |
| 16:21.36 | maquis | http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sa_menu_dmusic2/105-1769084-7016467?%5Fencoding=UTF8&node=163856011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-nav-1&pf_rd_r=0YGN5GNKCW49QDHTKPY4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=304476501&pf_rd_i=507846 |
| 16:21.41 | levi | http://www.luckysden.com/LJ/fursvsklingon.jpg |
| 16:21.42 | maquis | something like that |
| 16:21.52 | sjansen | I don't know, I guess I'd just have to use it until I was annoyed because it didn't support something I do in Vim. |
| 16:22.22 | goozbach | I just went through 20 or so levels of undo |
| 16:22.46 | sjansen | All I know is some software claims to support vi key binding but only supports: hjkl/n |
| 16:22.54 | goozbach | I think the hardest's thing is having to re-map all my .vimrc stuff |
| 16:23.29 | sjansen | I want to type something like: /foo<enter>cwbar<esc>n.nn.n.nnn. |
| 16:23.46 | Tene | maquis: thanks. cool. |
| 16:23.49 | levi | maquis: Nifty. |
| 16:23.50 | goozbach | I did o,O cw, 3cw, r, u, ctrl-d, ctrl-u |
| 16:23.58 | sjansen | Or: /foo/,/bar/s/baz/qux/g |
| 16:24.20 | maquis | levi: agreed... it's new to me, too :) |
| 16:24.46 | goozbach | sjansen: you're /foo<enter>cwbar<esc>n.nn.n.nnn worked |
| 16:26.29 | Jayce^ | Tene, I saw that the other day on use.perl |
| 16:26.30 | sjansen | Finally, an online story I can legally buy Lyle Lovett MP3s from! |
| 16:26.55 | sjansen | I never could find the courage to buy the CDs from a physical store. |
| 16:27.13 | sjansen | Wait... did I just reveal that publicly? |
| 16:27.23 | Jayce^ | and logged forever |
| 16:27.35 | Tene | sjansen: it's okay, just quickly /nick goozbach |
| 16:27.40 | sjansen | I mean, erm, Barry Manilow... No! 50 cent! Yeah, that's the ticket. |
| 16:28.55 | Jayce^ | levi, but what about the furry klingons? |
| 16:29.05 | *** kick/#utah [JasonHall!n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
| 16:29.10 | Jayce^ | *ouch, that hurt... :) |
| 16:29.27 | levi | Jayce^: I don't want to think about that. |
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| 16:29.33 | JasonHall | Betcha I'm the only one here with the complete works of Britney Spears _and_ The Backstreet Boys. (Included unreleased recording demos.) |
| 16:30.15 | levi | http://www.michaelharrison.ws/weblog/?p=50 |
| 16:30.27 | levi | Hah. :) |
| 16:30.57 | levi | JasonHall: I didn't think you had /that/ little taste, sjansen. ;) |
| 16:31.36 | dataw0lf | what's wrong with Lyle Lovett? |
| 16:32.30 | JasonHall | Anyone know where I can get Paris Hilton's unreleased work? I've already saved up enough for most of her CDs, so it's time to start budgetting for the real fan stuff. |
| 16:33.06 | Supaplex | o.O |
| 16:33.14 | Tene | levi: awesome |
| 16:34.05 | sjansen | dataw0lf: Nothing. He just seemed like the easiest target. |
| 16:34.25 | levi | Tene: Which is awesome? The klingons and furries, or the blog on SICP? |
| 16:34.29 | Supaplex | ~lart password autofill (while resetting passwords) |
| 16:34.29 | ibot | whacks password autofill (while resetting passwords) with a giant beaver's tail |
| 16:34.29 | Tene | the latter. |
| 16:34.31 | sjansen | I'm a Country fan. It's my right to make fun of other genres. |
| 16:34.40 | levi | Tene: Oh, good. :) |
| 16:35.31 | DerekCarter | JasonHall: Have you checked out this yet? http://parishiltonrecord.com/ |
| 16:35.33 | brac | [PARIS HILTON] |
| 16:35.38 | Supaplex | oh spare us |
| 16:35.42 | JasonHall | Sweet! |
| 16:36.39 | Tene | levi: oh, you hear about the lisp implementation on parrot? |
| 16:36.53 | sjansen | Supaplex: I know you are, but what am I? |
| 16:37.06 | herlo | ~turd Supaplex |
| 16:37.11 | levi | Tene: I know there's been a partial one for a long time, but is there some new news? |
| 16:38.42 | Tene | In the past couple of weeks someone announced a new one he had been working on |
| 16:39.17 | levi | Hah! My old friend Vorlath hit the programming reddit front page. |
| 16:39.43 | Tene | http://www.mail-archive.com/perl6-all@perl.org/msg69639.html |
| 16:39.44 | brac | [Kea Common Lisp pre-release] |
| 16:43.39 | levi | Hah, he has a post called 'The Truth About Monads' where he explains, apparently, why monadic programs are not functional. |
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| 16:46.46 | goozbach | sjansen: it even has visual blocking |
| 16:46.50 | goozbach | buhahaha |
| 16:49.06 | levi | goozbach: Which editor is this? |
| 16:49.23 | Jayce^ | sjansen, just for you : http://www.cleverlittlepod.com/bugroff.html |
| 16:50.13 | goozbach | http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_edit/ |
| 16:59.57 | sjansen | goozbach: including vertical blocks? |
| 17:01.20 | goozbach | yup |
| 17:01.33 | goozbach | ctrl-v |
| 17:02.23 | sjansen | F/OSS? |
| 17:03.06 | sjansen | If it againt F/OSS (or Scottish) it's ****! |
| 17:03.22 | sjansen | s/againt/ain't/ |
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| 17:09.49 | goozbach | http://www.activestate.com/openkomodo/ |
| 17:10.23 | Jayce^ | sjansen, I wrote about that a couple weeks ago.. |
| 17:12.03 | goozbach | http://www.activestate.com/openkomodo/details.plex |
| 17:12.12 | goozbach | the editor is free but not open |
| 17:12.26 | goozbach | however there is a project which uses the same codebase |
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| 17:12.37 | goozbach | ha ha timriker flooded :) |
| 17:15.56 | maquis | ~lart TimRiker |
| 17:15.56 | ibot | calls TimRiker on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 17:17.25 | sjansen | I'm having trouble finding license information. |
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| 17:24.47 | findlay-w | it's my own fault I'm in this predicament |
| 17:25.16 | findlay-w | well, no, I'm sure the sales dudes would have been persistent in contacting the management without my original blunder |
| 17:25.25 | findlay-w | :( |
| 17:25.50 | maquis | findlay-w: what's the predicament? |
| 17:26.42 | goozbach | I think it's stupid |
| 17:26.46 | findlay-w | maquis: some ISP came in, sang, and danced and now they want to buy service from them even though they're going to come in and make all of these proprietary changes to our network |
| 17:27.01 | goozbach | oops wrong window |
| 17:27.11 | maquis | findlay-w: what was your part in this? |
| 17:27.16 | redbeard2 | in case anybody is interested |
| 17:27.16 | redbeard2 | http://www.amanochocolate.com/articles/caffeineinchocolate.html |
| 17:27.24 | findlay-w | maquis: I've been trying to oppose them the best I could |
| 17:27.38 | findlay-w | but nobody understands my arguments |
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| 17:29.30 | Saint_Marck | is it true they engineer all the flying saucers up in utah? |
| 17:29.39 | findlay-w | indeed |
| 17:29.57 | Saint_Marck | awesome |
| 17:30.24 | findlay-w | but they've never figured out how to keep the soup from flying off the saucer when it starts to spin |
| 17:32.19 | Sargun | uh |
| 17:33.16 | Saint_Marck | so, I've heard there's really nothing in Utah but rocks and stepford wives/pop people |
| 17:33.18 | Sargun | findlay-w, does it mean more money? |
| 17:33.26 | Saint_Marck | pod people* |
| 17:33.51 | Saint_Marck | and UFOs |
| 17:33.55 | sjansen | findlay-w: One responsibility of a good IT person is explaining things in terms management understands. Maybe they do understand, but just don't care. |
| 17:34.11 | Saint_Marck | and of course that surreal lake |
| 17:34.13 | sjansen | Saint_Marck: Not true. We have Jello too. |
| 17:35.04 | Sargun | findlay-w, What's the downside of being propietary? |
| 17:36.05 | Saint_Marck | sjansen: I'd as soon eat glue |
| 17:36.06 | goozbach | Saint_Marck: don't forget that utahns consume more ice cream per capita than any other state |
| 17:36.22 | goozbach | Saint_Marck: jello == glue, didn't you know that? |
| 17:36.29 | Jayce^ | all from the same hoof |
| 17:37.03 | Saint_Marck | So, what I said basically sums up the average person's idea of Utah. |
| 17:37.05 | sjansen | findlay-w: Management speaks cost. You argument should probably follow something along the line of "$ISP uses technology that ties us tightly to them. If we later decide to switch to $DIFFERENT_ISP it will cost us upwards or $OUTRAGEOUS dollars and $TOO_MANY days to undo all the damage $ISP will do to our network. Is $SAVINGS in the short term worth the long term gamble?" |
| 17:37.20 | Saint_Marck | You folks need a better tourism bureau |
| 17:38.00 | sjansen | Saint_Marck: Again, not true. You forgot we're all racist and polygamists. |
| 17:38.10 | sjansen | Although we do have good skiing. |
| 17:38.21 | goozbach | here's a thought, if you are currently IN utah, rais your hand |
| 17:38.29 | goozbach | s/rais/raise/ |
| 17:38.39 | findlay-w | Sargun: if you don't know then I don't have the time to explain it to you right now |
| 17:38.43 | findlay-w | Sargun: ask sjansen |
| 17:39.02 | Sargun | Well, I have no idea what business your in. |
| 17:39.14 | findlay-w | Utah also has more pianos per capita than any other state |
| 17:39.25 | sjansen | findlay-w: If management decides $ISP is still the best choice, shut up and cash your paycheck. If $ISP makes life too miserable, it's time to move on and let them try to find someone as good/cheap/pretty. |
| 17:40.18 | Saint_Marck | sjansen: Nah, we know you got rid of the polygamists and replaced them with stepford wives |
| 17:41.22 | findlay-w | sjansen: but this company appears to embody every vice and evil of $proprietary_solution_provider and I'm going to be expected to work with them since nobody else is competent enough |
| 17:41.57 | findlay-w | I guess what I'm saying is that my job happiness will sink irretreivably below the tolerable mark |
| 17:44.06 | Sargun | Well, what is the alternative? |
| 17:44.20 | Sargun | For them, is any other ISP offering a choice |
| 17:44.35 | Sargun | and in what period are they going to merge/acquire with you? |
| 17:47.16 | sjansen | findlay-w: So change jobs. If you don't want to change jobs, let management know that they need to include the cost of replacing you in the decision making process. |
| 17:47.38 | sjansen | If management decides they don't care about losing you, you don't want that job anyway. |
| 17:48.07 | Saint_Marck | utah, lol |
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| 17:48.45 | findlay-w | quit moooing |
| 17:48.45 | fozzmoo | goozbach: ping |
| 17:48.48 | fozzmoo | herlo: ping |
| 17:48.56 | fozzmoo | findlay-w: moo. |
| 17:49.01 | findlay-w | heh |
| 17:49.18 | findlay-w | ~merge Sargun |
| 17:49.19 | herlo | fozzmoo: pong |
| 17:49.27 | sjansen | Work is called work because it's work, not pleasure. However, work and torture are also distinct words. |
| 17:49.51 | findlay-w | I guess you're right |
| 17:50.30 | sjansen | Frankly, I see little difference between torture and proprietary software. |
| 17:50.36 | Saint_Marck | some people choose not to work |
| 17:50.41 | findlay-w | ~work |
| 17:50.42 | ibot | [work] the integral of the dot product of force and displacement |
| 17:50.45 | findlay-w | ~power |
| 17:50.46 | ibot | methinks power is for newer opie releases you need to have apmd installed to have a working power button. or see external power, or the derivative of energy with respect to time |
| 17:50.49 | sjansen | It may not be the same as a caning. But it's pretty close to water torture or emotional abuse. |
| 17:50.50 | Saint_Marck | instead they go online all day and act like dicks |
| 17:51.06 | Saint_Marck | it's a lifestyle choice |
| 17:51.32 | findlay-w | ibot: power is also VI or (electric potential difference)X(current) otherwise known as VIm |
| 17:51.32 | ibot | okay, findlay-w |
| 17:51.41 | Sargun | I love my magstripe writer |
| 17:51.55 | findlay-w | Sargun: making your own credit cards |
| 17:51.56 | findlay-w | ? |
| 17:52.05 | sjansen | some people choose to pull a paycheck and go online at the same time |
| 17:52.14 | findlay-w | like #utah |
| 17:52.20 | Saint_Marck | those people are smarter and more mature than me |
| 17:52.21 | Sargun | Making my own print cards. |
| 17:53.35 | findlay-w | well, I've done enough damage for today |
| 17:54.05 | Sargun | g'bye |
| 17:54.09 | Sargun | By the way |
| 17:54.21 | Sargun | what sorta propietary equipment do they want in there? |
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| 17:58.46 | goozbach | fozzmoo: pong |
| 17:58.48 | atoponce | sjansen: identify to nickserv and check pm |
| 18:02.59 | brasto | this is from BYUUUG... is it a bug or a feature? |
| 18:03.01 | brasto | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1197/1045336659_e2c01251c6.jpg?v=0 |
| 18:04.52 | atoponce | it's a bug labeled as a feature |
| 18:05.14 | fozzmoo | sjansen: DO IT NOW! |
| 18:11.04 | sjansen | Yeah, yeah, just a moment. |
| 18:11.11 | sjansen | some of us work for a living, you know |
| 18:14.55 | fozzmoo | Some of us live for a working. |
| 18:17.42 | teabeer | some of us work live? |
| 18:19.17 | teabeer | some of us work for a livery? <-that's probably better |
| 18:20.34 | Sargun | I wonder if he just means Cisco routers as propietary |
| 18:20.38 | Sargun | or windows admin boxes |
| 18:20.39 | Sargun | etc |
| 18:20.59 | brasto | atoponce: yes! Good call! |
| 18:21.09 | Sargun | 7+15=22! |
| 18:22.08 | Sargun | I am still the youngest person here? |
| 18:22.30 | Sargun | What happened to slackware kid |
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| 18:25.26 | ^Migs^ | lol youngin |
| 18:25.55 | ^Migs^ | or mheath, for that matter |
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| 18:34.32 | Supaplex | brasto: nice photo :P |
| 18:35.57 | goozbach | any shorewall gurus present? |
| 18:36.16 | goozbach | I want to open up port 4949 from a specific host |
| 18:36.20 | goozbach | how do I do it |
| 18:36.32 | goozbach | I Already added this line to my rules:: |
| 18:36.58 | goozbach | ACCEPT net:XX.XX.XX.XX fw tcp 4949 |
| 18:37.11 | goozbach | but it doesn't seem to want to connect |
| 18:38.34 | brasto | funny thing about LinkedIn: I don't want recommendations for former jobs, I don't want to work at any of them any more... |
| 18:38.43 | brasto | and... I don't need a recommendation for a position where I work... After all, I'm already working there... |
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| 18:38.54 | brasto | does anyone use LinkedIn recommendations? Why? |
| 18:39.22 | Sargun | ^Migs^, its ^Migs^! |
| 18:39.47 | Sargun | goozbach, aren't you a RHCA? -- shouldn't you have taken the iptables course? |
| 18:39.52 | Sargun | goozbach, post your iptables-save |
| 18:41.02 | goozbach | Sargun: it's not iptables |
| 18:41.05 | goozbach | it's SHOREWALL |
| 18:41.15 | Supaplex | brasto: what if someone found a recommendation posted on your profile? |
| 18:41.23 | goozbach | and it's running on a debian based system |
| 18:41.33 | Sargun | which uses iptables, doesn't it? |
| 18:41.39 | goozbach | so my RH knowlege is minimal |
| 18:41.57 | goozbach | Sargun: sure does, after it murders whatever iptables rules you add yourself |
| 18:42.22 | goozbach | I want to know the SHOREWALL way of doing things, seeing as I don't seem to have it correct |
| 18:42.52 | goozbach | and no, replacing shorewall isn't an option |
| 18:43.11 | Supaplex | goozbach: but can you grok iptables? see what the rule looks like after shorewall added it |
| 18:43.39 | dataw0lf | goozbach: That looks right to me, man |
| 18:43.45 | dataw0lf | but I haven't used shorewall in a while |
| 18:44.00 | dataw0lf | there's nothing else you should have to do except for reload shorewall |
| 18:44.51 | goozbach | Supaplex: yup, it seems to be placing the rule into some funky chain |
| 18:45.57 | goozbach | net2fw for some reason |
| 18:46.07 | goozbach | as opposed to the input chain |
| 18:46.32 | goozbach | WTF with shorewall, why do you need anything more than INPUT FORWARD and OUTPUT? |
| 18:51.29 | tensai | I know openwrt reserves a chain for user additions. that chain gets linked at the top of INPUT. |
| 18:51.50 | tensai | I think the theory is that then openwrt can make whatever changes to INPUT it wants and not affect the user chain |
| 18:52.45 | sjansen | goozbach: I hear you've caged the caffeine monster. You're hallucinating shorewall problems because your caffeine blood ratio is unbalanced. |
| 18:53.04 | tensai | looks like it creates 3 of them, input_rule, output_rule and forward_rule. seems to work well. |
| 18:53.21 | goozbach | sjansen: I haven't caged it |
| 18:53.25 | goozbach | it's on a leash |
| 18:53.33 | goozbach | A loooong leash |
| 18:53.38 | goozbach | but a leash nonetheless |
| 18:53.55 | goozbach | as a matter of fact, I probally need a Dew |
| 18:54.04 | Supaplex | sjansen: hahaha caffiene:blood :) |
| 18:54.26 | Supaplex | sjansen: btw, I'm thinking of cover squid on Monday. sound good? |
| 18:55.25 | goozbach | ok this is weird, I went to the fridge for a Dew, and came back with gatoraide |
| 18:55.52 | sjansen | You're hallucinating because your caffeine blood ratio is unbalanced. |
| 18:56.08 | sjansen | It's probably affecting your short term memory too. |
| 18:56.23 | goozbach | what is? |
| 18:56.24 | sjansen | Does it seem like people keep repeating themselves? |
| 18:56.28 | sjansen | You're hallucinating because your caffeine blood ratio is unbalanced. |
| 18:56.38 | sjansen | It's probably affecting your short term memory too. |
| 18:56.44 | sjansen | Does it seem like people keep repeating themselves? |
| 18:56.56 | sjansen | It's probably affecting your short term memory too. |
| 18:57.04 | goozbach | what is affecting my short term membmory? |
| 18:58.26 | maquis | goozbach: what happened this weekend? |
| 18:59.35 | sjansen | goozbach was offered a pan-galactic gargle splat my the triple... erm, that is, by a mysterious caped stranger with green tinted skin. |
| 19:00.40 | sjansen | s/was offered/will be offered/ |
| 19:00.45 | sjansen | The pan-galactic gargle splat is world renown for being so powerful it causes hangovers before it has even been drunk. |
| 19:00.57 | Supaplex | I'm confused to. who was wasted, and you're both suffering the effects? %-) |
| 19:01.08 | Supaplex | nm ;) |
| 19:01.10 | goozbach | I went on a detox death martch |
| 19:01.55 | goozbach | in the south tennessee mountians |
| 19:02.05 | goozbach | cue dueling banjos |
| 19:02.46 | Sargun | yeah |
| 19:04.46 | goozbach | and this really nice young man told me "You sure do have a purdy mouth" |
| 19:05.12 | Sargun | o.O |
| 19:05.20 | Sargun | That's slightly odd. |
| 19:05.32 | Sargun | Does anyone else agree? |
| 19:06.11 | Supaplex | if it is, what's normal for goozbach? |
| 19:08.50 | dataw0lf | I consumed my weight in beer this weekend, that was pretty fun. |
| 19:14.31 | Sargun | hm |
| 19:14.35 | Sargun | in Utah? |
| 19:15.16 | Supaplex | we assume it is his current weight at the time of consumption to |
| 19:19.42 | ^Migs^ | "we" are also assuming he's being literal and not exaggerating |
| 19:20.35 | goozbach | so I figured out my shorewall problem, it wasn't a shorewall problem after all |
| 19:20.50 | goozbach | the application wasn't allowing external connections |
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| 19:27.05 | levi | http://www.tc.umn.edu/~beck0778/velociraptors/velociraptors.html |
| 19:27.06 | brac | [XKCD Velociraptors Problem] |
| 19:29.21 | brasto | Supaplex: I'd like someone to find a recommendation on my LinkedIn profile, but not for one of my past jobs, and not for my current job since I already have it. If there were recommendations for contracts, services, or higher paying positions, I'd like them to see it. |
| 19:31.19 | elg | genetic algorithm? |
| 19:31.32 | elg | come on, it can't be that hard to just try 360 degrees |
| 19:31.40 | elg | or even 720 half degrees |
| 19:31.44 | levi | Heh. |
| 19:32.22 | Tene | yarly |
| 19:33.18 | brasto | Supaplex: are you Supaplex, or Supap|ex |
| 19:33.26 | brasto | ? |
| 19:34.08 | brasto | TimRiker: is it possible to get a dump of all the currently defined stuff ibot/jbot has? |
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| 19:37.59 | fozzmoo | Ideas? xend.err "Error creating domain: (22, 'Invalid argument')" |
| 19:39.15 | Tene | fozzmoo: xend thinks that your argument is invalid. You should write an essay discussing the supporting arguments. |
| 19:39.42 | fozzmoo | Tene: I'll get right on that. |
| 19:43.49 | Supaplex | brasto: those are both me, depending on what machine I'm on. |
| 19:44.10 | Supaplex | ibot: factoids |
| 19:44.11 | ibot | factoids are information that ibot can learn and then reply with. "/msg ibot help" for more info. |
| 19:44.26 | elg | hey wait, Supaplex == TimRiker? |
| 19:44.31 | Supaplex | no :P |
| 19:44.40 | elg | Supaplex == ibot? |
| 19:44.45 | Supaplex | wrong |
| 19:45.02 | elg | Supaplex == sjansen+emcnabb-pcmnabb/amcnabb? |
| 19:45.03 | Supaplex | how'd you ever get that idea? :) |
| 19:45.33 | elg | brasto talks to timriker, supaplex says "those are both me, ..." and answers the question addressed to timriker |
| 19:45.35 | elg | that's how |
| 19:45.58 | Supaplex | 19:33 < brasto> Supaplex: are you Supaplex, or Supap|ex |
| 19:46.25 | Supaplex | fair enough |
| 19:46.37 | Supaplex | comical to :) |
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| 20:05.31 | ^Migs^ | why is it that techs never win Employee of the Month awards in a school district? |
| 20:05.50 | ^Migs^ | instead, it's always secretaries |
| 20:06.13 | ^Migs^ | maybe cuz we make 4 times as much as they do, I dunno |
| 20:06.17 | Supaplex | because they don't dress like a secretary |
| 20:06.26 | atoponce | secretaries work |
| 20:06.26 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 20:06.30 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 20:06.43 | ^Migs^ | right, the work |
| 20:06.46 | ^Migs^ | forgot about that |
| 20:06.52 | Supaplex | get to work son! |
| 20:10.40 | brasto | why is it that anybody has employee of the month awards at all |
| 20:10.57 | brasto | I think they may work for a short time, but I think they lower morale after a while |
| 20:11.22 | ^Migs^ | not if nobody cares about thek |
| 20:11.23 | ^Migs^ | *them |
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| 20:12.01 | PelaoFeliz | There was a professor at BYU whose attitude about rewards I really liked -- he taught English, had a doctorate, of course, and had been given many other fairly prestigious awards. But he had only 1 plaque hanging in his office -- a certificate of completion of the first year Thompson's Modern Course for the Piano. |
| 20:12.43 | ^Migs^ | haha awesome |
| 20:13.07 | vontrapp | so his attitude was "only awards for playing oom pa pa are worth anything"? |
| 20:13.26 | PelaoFeliz | I don't think that :) |
| 20:13.39 | PelaoFeliz | s/that/that's it |
| 20:13.40 | vontrapp | o/~ oom pa, oom pa, oom pa pa, he played oom for his papa |
| 20:13.52 | Supaplex | heh |
| 20:15.21 | ^Migs^ | I don't remember that one |
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| 20:16.19 | vontrapp | it was my all time favorite when i was 10 |
| 20:16.42 | vontrapp | i played it till elg went crazy |
| 20:18.07 | Supaplex | jsmith: so how's the conf going? |
| 20:18.40 | jsmith | Supaplex: It's rockin'! |
| 20:18.47 | Supaplex | awesome |
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| 20:25.18 | elg | now you know why |
| 20:30.45 | tensai | -chat about why |
| 20:30.45 | brac | why was happy feet is such an endeavor? |
| 20:31.59 | Supaplex | so many feet so many miles |
| 20:34.16 | ^Migs^ | -chat about where |
| 20:34.17 | brac | where had |
| 20:34.24 | ^Migs^ | -chat about if |
| 20:34.25 | brac | if is infile, of is the bsd partitioning/slicing is a nightmare. I think the karma module. |
| 20:34.39 | Supaplex | -chat about they |
| 20:34.39 | brac | they was |
| 20:34.43 | ^Migs^ | -chat about ibot |
| 20:34.43 | brac | ibot did that |
| 20:34.48 | ^Migs^ | -chat about migs |
| 20:34.48 | brac | migs was |
| 20:34.52 | ^Migs^ | -chat about brac |
| 20:34.52 | brac | brac is the hard work while Colbert entertains. |
| 20:35.01 | ^Migs^ | -chat about Supaplex |
| 20:35.01 | brac | Supaplex went |
| 20:35.03 | brasto | Supaplex: /msg ibot help only lists the predefined stuff. eg: it's missing this one: |
| 20:35.07 | Supaplex | -chat about ^Migs^ get your own bot |
| 20:35.07 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 20:35.17 | ^Migs^ | brac: help chat |
| 20:35.17 | brac | markov plugin: listens to chat to build a markov chain, with which it can (perhaps) attempt to (inanely) contribute to 'discussion'. Sort of.. Will get a *lot* better after listening to a lot of chat. usage: 'markov' to attempt to say something relevant to the last line of chat, if it can. other options to markov: 'ignore' => ignore a hostmask (accept no input), 'status' => show |
| 20:35.18 | brasto | ~brastotack Supaplex |
| 20:35.19 | ibot | ACTION lectures Supaplex on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until Supaplex can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
| 20:35.21 | brac | current status, 'probability' => set the % chance of rbot responding to input, 'chat' => try and say something intelligent, 'chat about <foo> <bar>' => riff on a word pair (if possible) |
| 20:35.37 | ^Migs^ | -chat about stfu |
| 20:35.38 | brac | stfu went |
| 20:35.52 | ^Migs^ | -chat about markov chain |
| 20:35.52 | brac | markov chain is being used yet |
| 20:36.10 | Tene | -chat about -chat about |
| 20:36.10 | brac | -chat about yottabytes |
| 20:36.20 | Tene | -chat about ~lart sjansen |
| 20:36.21 | brac | ~lart sjansen for once |
| 20:36.21 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks sjansen over for once |
| 20:36.38 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 20:36.44 | ^Migs^ | -chat about ~lart Tene |
| 20:36.45 | brac | ~lart Tene for scientology too? |
| 20:36.45 | ibot | hereby declares Tene a troll for scientology too? |
| 20:37.00 | ^Migs^ | -chat about ~lart dataw0lf |
| 20:37.01 | brac | ~lart dataw0lf for beating me to sleep at all! |
| 20:37.01 | ibot | steals dataw0lf's mojo for beating me to sleep at all! |
| 20:37.16 | elg | -chat ~lart sjansen |
| 20:37.16 | brac | ~lart sjansen for a bit like dating someone not graduited |
| 20:37.16 | ibot | smacks sjansen up side the head with a clue-by-4 for a bit like dating someone not graduited |
| 20:37.42 | elg | -chat ~lart emcnabb |
| 20:37.42 | brac | ~lart emcnabb for something ncurses-based/ncurses-like |
| 20:37.42 | ibot | drops a truckload of VAXen on emcnabb for something ncurses-based/ncurses-like |
| 20:37.58 | elg | sjansen: i had no idea you were dating a junior high girl |
| 20:38.24 | ^Migs^ | is she hot? |
| 20:38.44 | Supaplex | >.> |
| 20:49.14 | elg | yup, emcnabb is primal alright |
| 20:49.17 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 20:49.58 | sjansen | A few times I've been around that track |
| 20:49.58 | sjansen | So it's not just gonna happen like that |
| 20:49.58 | sjansen | Cause I ain't no hollaback girl |
| 20:49.58 | sjansen | I ain't no hollaback girl |
| 20:50.11 | elg | holodeck girl? |
| 20:50.29 | sjansen | I ain't no hollaback girl |
| 20:50.51 | Tene | ibot: sjansen |
| 20:50.51 | ibot | sjansen is one hoopy frood who really knows where his towel is |
| 20:50.56 | elg | he ain't no holodeck girl |
| 20:50.57 | Tene | ibot: sjansen is also a hollaback girl |
| 20:50.58 | ibot | ACTION tells is also a hollaback girl good things about sjansen |
| 20:51.20 | elg | haha |
| 20:51.22 | Supaplex | uh.. huh? |
| 20:51.24 | elg | perfect. |
| 20:51.24 | Supaplex | ha |
| 20:51.33 | elg | ~elg is also the king of bread |
| 20:51.34 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps is also the king of bread. |
| 20:55.05 | levi | elg: I tried to make pretzels over the weekend. |
| 20:55.25 | sjansen | ~pretzel levi |
| 20:55.28 | elg | the hard kind or the soft kind? |
| 20:55.32 | levi | The soft kind. |
| 20:55.34 | elg | or the Twister™ kind? |
| 20:55.46 | sjansen | elg: show off |
| 20:55.49 | levi | The result was a pile of FAIL. |
| 20:56.09 | elg | AB did a pretzel episode not long ago |
| 20:56.19 | elg | i've never tried |
| 20:56.26 | elg | not a big pretzel fan, though I admit to never having the soft kind |
| 20:56.40 | levi | Yeah, I figured I'd have to track down a Good Eats presentation of the technique. |
| 20:56.57 | levi | I tend to fail pretty often when I attempt recipes from The Joy of Cooking. |
| 20:56.57 | elg | http://goodeatsfanpage.com/GEFP/EpisodeIndex2.htm |
| 20:57.00 | brac | [Episode Index Food or Topic] |
| 20:57.12 | levi | Soft pretzels are totally different from the hard variety. |
| 20:57.22 | levi | Especially in that they actually taste good. |
| 20:57.32 | elg | hmm. I don't see it. maybe they're behind. I think it was this season |
| 21:05.56 | tensai | levi: which edition of TJoC? |
| 21:14.27 | levi | tensai: It's a few editions old. |
| 21:17.26 | tensai | levi: I want one of the 1975 editions |
| 21:18.15 | levi | That's probably what I have. |
| 21:25.34 | levi | Yup, I definitely have the '75 version. |
| 21:27.02 | levi | I got it for free. Someone left it in one of the student apartments I moved in to years ago. |
| 21:27.21 | levi | They probably had about as much luck with it as I did. ;) |
| 21:28.25 | tensai | I hear it's got some really interesting recipes in it |
| 21:28.56 | levi | It's got a zillion recipes in it. If I ever want to know what some type of food I hear about is, I look it up there. |
| 21:29.05 | tensai | appears that it's still in print too. hmm... |
| 21:29.23 | levi | The '75 edition is? |
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| 21:31.49 | TimRiker | anyone here use gmap (sorry if you saw this is #utos, I meant to ask here) http://www.gmap-track.com/public.php |
| 21:32.38 | tensai | levi: that's what it seems |
| 21:32.47 | TimRiker | http://www.gmap-track.com/user.php?user=timriker |
| 21:37.38 | Supaplex | ouu nice. TimRiker, konq went down in a blaze of segfault glory. :P |
| 21:38.37 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 21:39.51 | herlo | TimRiker: seems neat |
| 21:40.33 | TimRiker | playing with a new phone. now running the GMap app on it. |
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| 21:41.01 | Supaplex | looks neato. |
| 21:41.18 | Supaplex | (in FF) |
| 21:51.10 | Tene | http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=307215&cid=20740879 |
| 21:51.55 | levi | Heh. |
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| 22:00.05 | tensai | ~hug hot swappable components |
| 22:00.06 | ibot | ACTION jumps into hot swappable components's lap and huggles and *hugs* hot swappable components |
| 22:00.06 | Supaplex | still that xl2k7 bug thread huh |
| 22:00.26 | Supaplex | I'm sure ibot has a fonder passion for them then we do |
| 22:01.00 | levi | So, where's the OSTC at Novell? |
| 22:01.30 | mrpull | west edge of the campus |
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| 22:02.23 | levi | So, it's got its own building? |
| 22:03.08 | mrpull | levi: i think so. i don't know for sure. just going from my observation of attending the UTOS. |
| 22:03.18 | sontek | yeah, its building a |
| 22:04.24 | levi | I'm considering going to URUG tonight, but I've never been to the OSTC before. |
| 22:04.39 | Supaplex | ruby? |
| 22:04.45 | levi | Yeah. |
| 22:04.52 | Supaplex | qewlies |
| 22:06.23 | mrpull | Levi: I went in the main entrance, turned left at the main building (where the main drive makes a T) and it seems it is the second building on the right |
| 22:06.28 | mrpull | there is a sign in front of it |
| 22:06.50 | mrpull | it is ESE from the home depot |
| 22:07.42 | Jayce^ | just go in the main, then left, and follow it around the corner... it's the next door and has a sign |
| 22:11.07 | levi | Anyone here going to urug tonight? |
| 22:11.22 | Supaplex | not unless I can ctcp teleport myself over there and back |
| 22:11.59 | levi | That'd be a neat trick. |
| 22:13.12 | mrpull | it'd be slick if many of the user groups could record and/or broadcast the meetings |
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| 22:13.37 | mrpull | is there a Free webex alternative worth using yet? |
| 22:15.46 | mrpull | having the presenter webcast via webex or similar would be nice for those out of reach |
| 22:15.53 | mrpull | but web-ex is somewhat expensive |
| 22:16.11 | mrpull | i think the utah-python guys have experimented with streaming video |
| 22:23.29 | levi | Hmm. Maybe I won't be going. |
| 22:23.55 | levi | My wife and I were just made cub scout committee members, and there's apparently a pinewood derby tonight. |
| 22:24.29 | levi | Like I want to watch a bunch of snot-nosed brats race the cars their daddies built. ;P |
| 22:24.37 | Supaplex | hehee |
| 22:28.11 | Tene | *I* won every pinewood derby I ever entered. |
| 22:30.25 | herlo | Tene: true |
| 22:31.20 | herlo | Tene: how do you pronounce your nick? |
| 22:31.38 | herlo | Tene: what does it mean? |
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| 22:32.54 | Tene | herlo: it means me, of course. What does 'herlo' mean? |
| 22:35.03 | herlo | Tene: herlo doesn't have a meaning. I picked it out of the air one night when I needed a nick for Halo |
| 22:40.30 | ddrfreak | i wish i had a mysterious nick... |
| 22:40.42 | levi | I don't even have a nick. |
| 22:40.58 | ddrfreak | you mean you don't just like jeans alot? |
| 22:41.29 | ddrfreak | jk |
| 22:41.37 | levi | Well, I like jeans as much as the next guy, but that has nothing to do with my name |
| 22:42.03 | mrpull | ddrfreak: i don't know you, but any time I see your nick I think this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4yk-ESYl7Bc |
| 22:42.12 | ddrfreak | http://youtube.com/watch?v=4yk-ESYl7Bc |
| 22:42.53 | mrpull | when he falls at the end it is priceless |
| 22:42.57 | ddrfreak | ya i get that alot |
| 22:43.09 | ddrfreak | it's pretty sweet |
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| 22:47.25 | ddrfreak | I thank god everyday for the |
| 22:47.33 | ddrfreak | I thank god everyday for the "l" in public |
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| 23:45.15 | hagna | any students or others know how the mean of some vectors is defined? |
| 23:45.30 | hagna | is it just v1 + v2 + v3 all divided by 3 ? |
