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| 01:45.44 | levi | Good evening. |
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| 01:46.25 | levi | Hey, fozz. |
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| 02:15.00 | vontrapp_ | this byu thing tells me to enter my student id |
| 02:15.03 | vontrapp_ | here's what i get: |
| 02:15.06 | vontrapp_ | Invalid query: Unknown column 'vgf2' in 'where clause' |
| 02:15.16 | vontrapp_ | o.O |
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| 02:40.47 | levi | Heh. |
| 02:43.04 | vontrapp | vgf2 was entered in a text field, i might add |
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| 02:58.39 | levi | Man, it's a quiet day online today. |
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| 03:06.52 | levi | Wassup, elg? |
| 03:14.55 | elg | internet troubles. stupid isp |
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| 04:06.07 | elg | -chat here am |
| 04:06.13 | brac | here am |
| 04:06.18 | elg | -chat here i |
| 04:06.22 | brac | here i might not go away |
| 04:11.28 | levi | -chat foo bar |
| 04:11.28 | brac | foo bar || echo failed |
| 04:11.38 | levi | -chat good morning |
| 04:11.39 | brac | good morning #utah |
| 04:12.00 | levi | -chat picadilly internet |
| 04:12.01 | brac | picadilly internet |
| 04:12.10 | levi | -chat who is |
| 04:12.10 | brac | who is without |
| 04:12.28 | levi | Well, that's pretty dull. |
| 04:12.45 | elg | -chat who was |
| 04:12.46 | brac | who was just looking at me |
| 04:15.57 | elg | -chat supaplex is |
| 04:15.57 | brac | supaplex is afraid to ask her out is always blank when I 'have' to once they have decent tires on it? |
| 04:16.36 | Supaplex | nawe, tires are fine. the window just won't roll up. |
| 04:16.39 | elg | -chat levi is |
| 04:16.39 | brac | levi is doing 600 bridges |
| 04:16.46 | elg | go levi! |
| 04:16.52 | elg | -chat elg is |
| 04:16.53 | brac | elg is trying to get it. You're too good to go to some music from across the face through your existing wiring |
| 04:17.03 | vontrapp | -chat vontrapp is |
| 04:17.03 | brac | vontrapp is currently played on a festiva. Interesting. |
| 04:17.10 | elg | lol |
| 04:17.12 | vontrapp | wow, that's amazing |
| 04:17.14 | Supaplex | -chat ibot says |
| 04:17.14 | brac | ibot says I'm not certain I'd succeed - USMC boot |
| 04:17.25 | Supaplex | so the truth comes out! |
| 04:18.16 | elg | -chat mheath is |
| 04:18.17 | brac | mheath is about as useful as a tool, that may be different in ways that do stupid things, you'll probably have to give the first partition on what the underscore?! |
| 04:18.31 | elg | -chat jayce^ is |
| 04:18.31 | brac | jayce^ is just fine where you are installing it |
| 04:18.49 | elg | -chat emcnabb does |
| 04:18.49 | brac | emcnabb does |
| 04:18.54 | elg | -chat emcnabb is |
| 04:18.55 | brac | emcnabb is in Virginia, and I don't buy HW from a given region breaks down for ctrl or alt or anything |
| 04:19.02 | Supaplex | -chat about congress says |
| 04:19.02 | brac | congress says |
| 04:19.10 | Supaplex | nothing interesting... |
| 04:19.10 | elg | -chat don't speak |
| 04:19.12 | brac | don't speak Army. |
| 04:19.13 | vontrapp | -chat about congress is |
| 04:19.13 | brac | congress is |
| 04:19.24 | elg | -chat it's all |
| 04:19.24 | brac | it's all a blur for me it's still not being allowed to, is the answer |
| 04:19.25 | vontrapp | -chat about apple fears |
| 04:19.25 | brac | apple fears |
| 04:19.34 | Supaplex | heh. DUDs. |
| 04:19.36 | elg | -chat steve jobs |
| 04:19.37 | brac | steve jobs during school and hold traffic up for it, if not, should I put together. |
| 04:19.38 | vontrapp | poo |
| 04:19.47 | elg | -chat ^migs^ is |
| 04:19.48 | brac | ^migs^ is lost information |
| 04:19.54 | vontrapp | -chat bill gates |
| 04:19.55 | brac | bill gates to take out the online banking works in Exaile is a .NET VM |
| 04:20.17 | elg | -chat in a |
| 04:20.17 | brac | in a relationship advances only depends on how much more qualified to say |
| 04:20.48 | vontrapp | -chat iphone |
| 04:20.49 | brac | iphone had |
| 04:20.56 | vontrapp | -chat do a |
| 04:20.56 | brac | do a replace with quotes |
| 04:21.02 | vontrapp | good advice |
| 04:21.26 | vontrapp | -chat dance |
| 04:21.26 | brac | dance went |
| 04:21.31 | vontrapp | -chat dance for |
| 04:21.32 | brac | dance for us |
| 04:21.35 | elg | stupid oink |
| 04:22.03 | elg | my account expired again |
| 04:23.57 | levi | What's oink? |
| 04:25.10 | vontrapp | eh? |
| 04:25.10 | vontrapp | -chat elg pig |
| 04:25.10 | vontrapp | ~oink elg |
| 04:25.11 | vontrapp | -chat harleypig is |
| 04:25.11 | vontrapp | -chat <action> shoots |
| 04:25.12 | brac | elg pig |
| 04:25.12 | brac | harleypig is no plans to upgrade. |
| 04:25.12 | brac | <action> shoots |
| 04:25.13 | vontrapp | -lart lag |
| 04:25.15 | vontrapp | :( |
| 04:25.17 | vontrapp | ~rlart |
| 04:25.18 | ibot | resizes Newsome's terminal to 40x24 |
| 04:25.28 | Newsome | hey, watch it |
| 04:25.54 | vontrapp | and the lag starts building up again |
| 04:26.06 | vontrapp | -lart packet losss |
| 04:26.47 | elg | a torrent site with an annoying habit of disabling accounts that haven't gone to the website in 6 weeks |
| 04:27.11 | elg | with no warning, either |
| 04:27.33 | vontrapp | ~oink is a torrent site with an annoying habit of disabling accounts that haven't gone to the website in 6 weeks with no warning |
| 04:27.33 | ibot | ...but oink is already something else... |
| 04:27.37 | levi | elg: I guess it's too good for people who aren't obsessive about it. |
| 04:27.43 | vontrapp | ~oink is also a torrent site with an annoying habit of disabling accounts that haven't gone to the website in 6 weeks with no warning |
| 04:27.43 | ibot | vontrapp: okay |
| 04:27.49 | levi | ~oink |
| 04:27.50 | ibot | i guess oink is onomatopoeia for "Obviously you didn't calibrate the lateral phase stabilzers correctly because we're heading towards a giant bananna!", or a torrent site with an annoying habit of disabling accounts that haven't gone to the website in 6 weeks with no warning |
| 04:28.09 | levi | Oh no, a giant banana! |
| 04:28.16 | vontrapp | *oink* |
| 04:28.18 | levi | My daughter woke up and won't go back to sleep. :/ |
| 04:28.28 | vontrapp | chlorophyl |
| 04:29.20 | vontrapp | $0.02 |
| 04:29.20 | vontrapp | take it or leave it |
| 04:29.24 | levi | I don't think turning her green will help. |
| 04:29.50 | vontrapp | crap, what's that stuff called |
| 04:30.15 | levi | chloroform |
| 04:30.57 | vontrapp | yeah |
| 04:30.57 | vontrapp | that's what i meant |
| 04:31.04 | levi | Boy, if people thought the first MoveOn ad was bad, they're going to have a real fit over the second one. |
| 04:32.26 | levi | Oh, and it appears that smorrey's multiplayer game was/is a card game. |
| 04:32.48 | levi | Though that doesn't really explain the 3d stuff he was asking about before. |
| 04:33.16 | vontrapp | his mmorpg |
| 04:33.18 | vontrapp | ? |
| 04:33.50 | levi | Yeah. |
| 04:34.04 | levi | http://www.dreamrpgonline.com/node/2 |
| 04:35.20 | vontrapp | where's the rss? |
| 04:36.22 | vontrapp | massively mobile offensive rocket propelled grenade? |
| 04:36.36 | Supaplex | yup! |
| 04:37.24 | vontrapp | ah, there is an rss |
| 04:40.40 | vontrapp | how's 5G/dollar? |
| 04:41.44 | levi | 5G/dollar? |
| 04:41.59 | vontrapp | or, rather, 200G for $40 |
| 04:43.10 | levi | What, are you talking about WoW gold or something? |
| 04:43.22 | vontrapp | gigabytes |
| 04:43.26 | vontrapp | hd at staples |
| 04:44.03 | vontrapp | -lart levi for thinking vontrapp maintains any topic coherency |
| 04:44.55 | Supaplex | http://users.surfthe.us/supaplex/receipt001ax6.jpg |
| 04:46.48 | Supaplex | that's $0.09/gb :) they were uber lucky! |
| 04:47.09 | vontrapp | that's not as good, $11 per gig |
| 04:47.16 | vontrapp | wait... |
| 04:47.18 | vontrapp | er... |
| 04:47.42 | Supaplex | you're kidding me. $89.99 for 1TB |
| 04:47.53 | vontrapp | how many gigs in a TB? |
| 04:48.05 | Supaplex | 1000 ~ 1024 (depending on what math you use) |
| 04:48.13 | Supaplex | marketing vs computing. grr. |
| 04:48.51 | vontrapp | that's right, i had my fraction backwards |
| 04:49.07 | vontrapp | 11G/$1 |
| 04:49.07 | vontrapp | hehe |
| 04:49.22 | Supaplex | yeaw. :) |
| 04:50.18 | vontrapp | maybe this summer i can buy myself a TB |
| 04:50.23 | levi | Supaplex: The metric system was not invented by marketing. |
| 04:50.57 | Supaplex | but marketing invented advertise metric system on a computing product. |
| 04:51.08 | Supaplex | granted though :) |
| 04:51.19 | vontrapp | base 2 is metric? |
| 04:51.36 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 04:51.59 | levi | Supaplex: No, marketing did not invent that. |
| 04:52.16 | Supaplex | ok who did |
| 04:52.28 | levi | vontrapp: The base-2 meanings of kilobyte, etc. are expressly forbidden by SI. |
| 04:55.52 | Supaplex | I'm almost curious for sources. I think bed is a mroe appeling option right now. |
| 04:55.52 | levi | Supaplex: the SI prefixes have always meant powers of 10. |
| 04:56.10 | levi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Electrotechnical_Commission |
| 04:56.45 | levi | The networking folks have always used the base-10 meanings, too. |
| 04:57.32 | levi | Basically, engineers have always used base-10, it's just the silly hackers that decided that the base-2 numbers were close enough to co-opt the prefixes. |
| 04:59.01 | Supaplex | that's a good terse wrapup. thanks for the heads up. |
| 04:59.58 | levi | It's not entirely true, either. ;) |
| 05:00.19 | levi | I'm pretty sure early computer engineers used K for powers of 2. |
| 05:00.56 | levi | But it was largely for RAM, not for disk. |
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| 05:02.17 | graphyx | hey, aryone around? |
| 05:02.20 | graphyx | anyone? |
| 05:02.20 | levi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix |
| 05:02.30 | levi | That looks like a pretty good overview of the history. |
| 05:02.34 | levi | graphyx: Nope, not here at all. |
| 05:02.36 | graphyx | Ok, what is your take or this? |
| 05:02.39 | graphyx | on this |
| 05:02.40 | Supaplex | graphyx: i'm not round. |
| 05:02.46 | graphyx | I installed mplayer on windows |
| 05:02.58 | graphyx | It plays this xvid video just fine |
| 05:03.09 | graphyx | I install it on ubuntu with the restricted codecs. |
| 05:03.20 | graphyx | and when it plays the video it all looks jumbled. |
| 05:03.34 | graphyx | like it has interleaving on it |
| 05:03.46 | graphyx | but it isn't interleaving since each strip is about 1 cm wide. |
| 05:03.52 | graphyx | and it isn't really watchable. |
| 05:04.01 | graphyx | Any though on how to get it working? |
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| 05:05.04 | Supaplex | I think you have to import the system libs so mplayer can borrow them. that's tricker to do on the non-native platform. did you ask #ubuntu ? They seem to happily modify packages at will. (of which I'm blissifully unware of most of the time) |
| 05:06.51 | graphyx | I haven't |
| 05:07.04 | graphyx | seems odd that it works just fine on windows, but not on linux. |
| 05:07.27 | Supaplex | well chances are it's borrowing the libraries in windows. does it play the same in other players on windows? |
| 05:07.37 | Supaplex | I'm not totally sure how it pulls that off |
| 05:08.14 | graphyx | Supaplex: I haven't found other working players for windows. |
| 05:08.59 | Supaplex | how do the versions compare? |
| 05:09.07 | Supaplex | mplayer windows:ubuntu |
| 05:09.42 | graphyx | I don't have the windows system presently to troubleshoot. |
| 05:10.20 | vontrapp | graphyx: my guess is it's an encryption issue |
| 05:10.20 | Supaplex | ok. good luck hunting down your answers. my neuron cluster is in dire need of sleep(). ;) |
| 05:10.29 | graphyx | umm, how so? |
| 05:10.31 | vontrapp | and your linux codecs don't have the proper decryption algos |
| 05:10.37 | graphyx | encryption would result in static |
| 05:10.51 | graphyx | not what looks like messed up screen shot |
| 05:11.13 | vontrapp | dunno, all i know is i've seen exactly what you're talking about |
| 05:11.13 | vontrapp | lots of colorful squares about 1cm |
| 05:11.18 | graphyx | ok |
| 05:11.22 | vontrapp | and it's mostly with wmv, but not all wmv |
| 05:11.30 | graphyx | so why would it work on windows? |
| 05:11.37 | graphyx | correct decryption package? |
| 05:11.41 | vontrapp | as in, some kind of thing inside wmv |
| 05:11.42 | vontrapp | as in, one wmv is encrypted or something |
| 05:11.44 | vontrapp | just a theory |
| 05:12.23 | graphyx | ok |
| 05:12.36 | graphyx | well they aren't wmvs |
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| 05:58.06 | levi | Yay, I think my daughter finally fell back asleep. |
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| 07:09.07 | Tene | http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tpa/409930561.html -- awesome |
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| 14:43.09 | sontek | :D |
| 15:00.26 | teabeer | good morning #utah what are you all up to? |
| 15:06.11 | teabeer | sleeping, eh? |
| 15:06.41 | teabeer | I'm working |
| 15:20.45 | teabeer | oh what a feeling |
| 15:22.03 | teabeer | so I only noticed that datadirect on my myth box stopped working the other day |
| 15:22.26 | teabeer | I am a bit out of touch |
| 15:23.00 | teabeer | although it was interesting to go back and browse through months of gigantic threads on the mythtv-users list |
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| 18:04.09 | vontrapp | teabeer: did you renew your subscription with zap2it? |
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| 18:09.30 | Tene | itsafozz |
| 18:12.25 | Supaplex | fozz hazz azzived |
| 18:16.10 | fozzmoo | I'm so mad! |
| 18:16.40 | Supaplex | over? |
| 18:16.42 | fozzmoo | I've been engrossed in this book and I'm reading along and it says... |
| 18:17.02 | fozzmoo | Frankfurter was irritated drafting a letter to Brandeis, ... (next page)... |
| 18:17.15 | fozzmoo | mother in a lean-to nursing a baby. |
| 18:17.25 | fozzmoo | I read that three or four times, trying to make sense of it. |
| 18:17.37 | fozzmoo | Then I looked up. I was on page 306. The next page was 275. |
| 18:17.45 | Supaplex | lol |
| 18:17.48 | fozzmoo | Pages 275-306 were reprinted... |
| 18:17.53 | Supaplex | your book is fubar :P |
| 18:17.56 | fozzmoo | and pages 307-338 are completely missing! |
| 18:18.06 | Supaplex | yikes! |
| 18:18.30 | fozzmoo | I hope Amazon processes my replacement request quick! |
| 18:18.36 | Supaplex | some poor soul has pages 307-338 reprinted... |
| 18:19.35 | fozzmoo | So there. |
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| 18:29.45 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
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| 18:38.57 | elg | -chat funny how |
| 18:38.58 | brac | funny how often you do need some way to seed the torrent, since nobody else can write to a new one |
| 18:44.18 | levi | teabeer: Go sign up for the new service. It works well, and it's cheap. :) |
| 18:44.52 | teabeer | yeah, I've already sighned up |
| 18:45.03 | teabeer | it just caught me by surprise |
| 18:46.00 | levi | Yeah, I'd forgotten exactly when the data direct stuff expired. Took me a while to find the Ubuntu packages that enable schedulesdirect.org polling. |
| 18:46.15 | levi | My wife was unhappy that I missed a day of her recordings. |
| 18:46.34 | teabeer | I was just glad I checked to make sure the simpsons was recording on Sunday |
| 18:46.45 | levi | Anyway, I was just online to check email. Talk to you later. |
| 18:46.50 | teabeer | otherwise I would have missed it |
| 18:49.11 | Sargun | sup teabeer |
| 18:49.24 | teabeer | hey Sargun |
| 18:49.51 | Sargun | Hm, does tea flow through your veins? |
| 18:50.07 | teabeer | probably to some degree |
| 18:50.15 | Sargun | Nifty. |
| 18:51.13 | teabeer | does anywhere make a better sandwich than quiznos? |
| 18:51.29 | sontek | teabeer: Toasters on 200 S |
| 18:51.52 | teabeer | what city? |
| 18:51.58 | sontek | teabeer: SLC |
| 18:52.14 | teabeer | ah, that's a bit of a drive |
| 18:52.31 | teabeer | I'll keep it in mind the next time I'm up |
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| 19:00.50 | Sargun | My sandwiches |
| 19:00.58 | Sargun | Tazas is pretty good. |
| 19:01.08 | Sargun | Also, Angelou's grill is tasty |
| 19:01.32 | Sargun | Those are the two main places I've gotten tasty sandwiches |
| 19:01.33 | harleypig | Angelou? As in Maya? |
| 19:01.45 | Sargun | There are a few other places, but I can't remember? |
| 19:01.48 | Sargun | Maya? |
| 19:01.55 | harleypig | Maya Angelou |
| 19:02.37 | harleypig | http://www.mayaangelou.com/ |
| 19:02.39 | brac | [Maya Angelou - The Official Website] |
| 19:11.32 | Sargun | uh, no. |
| 19:13.25 | teabeer | anyone know why iptables doesn't like the LOG target? iptables -A -j LOG gives me: Bad argument `LOG' |
| 19:13.36 | teabeer | the ipt_LOG module is loaded |
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| 19:16.52 | Sargun | -A BLAH? |
| 19:16.52 | brac | who knows? |
| 19:16.57 | Sargun | matching what? |
| 19:17.15 | Sargun | you need to have morde in your rule |
| 19:17.28 | teabeer | there is more info, but that is the part that fails |
| 19:18.01 | teabeer | the full rule is iptables -A -j LOG -m limit --limit 1/sec --log-prefix "Throttled-logdrop: " |
| 19:18.42 | teabeer | but "iptables -j LOG" should fail with "no command specified", not "Bad argument `LOG'" |
| 19:19.11 | teabeer | hmm |
| 19:20.13 | teabeer | these aren't my rules, I'm just implementing them |
| 19:20.37 | teabeer | so that makes it a bit more confusing |
| 19:24.01 | teabeer | but yes, it appears -A BLAH? is the correct answer :) |
| 19:24.09 | teabeer | Sargun: thanks |
| 19:33.52 | nick125 | afternoon everyone |
| 19:34.19 | nick125 | Anyone alive? |
| 19:35.37 | teabeer | y |
| 19:36.00 | nick125 | teabeer: What's up? |
| 19:36.39 | teabeer | I'm at work |
| 19:36.42 | teabeer | slow Saturday |
| 19:37.01 | nick125 | Sargun: Happen to be around? :p |
| 19:37.23 | nick125 | teabeer: Do you get paid premium pay for working on saturday? |
| 19:37.51 | teabeer | no, but I do get extra for Sunday |
| 19:38.18 | Sargun | nope :-P |
| 19:38.27 | Sargun | nick125, sup? |
| 19:38.41 | nick125 | Sargun: Not much, you? |
| 19:38.45 | Sargun | Not too much |
| 19:38.55 | Sargun | Did Qwest ever fix your f-cable? |
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| 19:39.10 | nick125 | Sargun: No. |
| 19:39.32 | Sargun | So, rain = no internet |
| 19:39.42 | nick125 | I had to call them last night because it started raining and it became staticky, and, they said that they fixed a problem at the pedestal |
| 19:39.59 | Sargun | vontrapp, voting project |
| 19:40.00 | Sargun | ? |
| 19:40.02 | vontrapp | i want to make it a preferential vote |
| 19:40.06 | vontrapp | so, i think i do it like this |
| 19:40.16 | vontrapp | "how many votes for A?": ... |
| 19:40.23 | vontrapp | "how many votes for B?": .. |
| 19:40.28 | vontrapp | the number of votes is unbounded |
| 19:40.39 | vontrapp | it's normalized after you enter all your votes |
| 19:40.45 | Sargun | Your making a voting machine? |
| 19:40.56 | nick125 | vontrapp: Just don't make the same mistakes diebold did :p |
| 19:41.02 | vontrapp | is that dead simple enough for stupid people? |
| 19:41.10 | nick125 | vontrapp: Probably not. |
| 19:41.14 | vontrapp | nick125: well, right now it's just a class project |
| 19:41.48 | Sargun | lol |
| 19:42.02 | Sargun | make it a tongue screen |
| 19:42.05 | nick125 | Sargun: I was wondering if you had any experience with EvDO data cards in Linux. |
| 19:42.06 | Sargun | not touch |
| 19:42.08 | Sargun | but tongue |
| 19:42.11 | Sargun | EVDO? |
| 19:42.14 | Sargun | they work. |
| 19:42.15 | Sargun | :-) |
| 19:42.27 | Sargun | that's what I know about them |
| 19:42.31 | Sargun | Sierra aircard |
| 19:42.35 | Sargun | kicks but. |
| 19:42.36 | Sargun | why? |
| 19:42.41 | Sargun | T-mobile is getting better |
| 19:42.47 | nick125 | T-Mobile's coverage is starting to really blow. |
| 19:42.52 | Sargun | Sprint & T-mobile are the only two who put their networks on crack |
| 19:42.54 | nick125 | And it's getting wrose. |
| 19:42.57 | nick125 | *worse |
| 19:43.00 | Sargun | T-Mobile with WiMax. |
| 19:43.03 | Sargun | er |
| 19:43.05 | Sargun | Wifi |
| 19:43.05 | nick125 | (and so is my typing skills) |
| 19:43.10 | Sargun | and Sprint with Wimax |
| 19:43.15 | Sargun | and Femtocell |
| 19:43.24 | nick125 | I don't get any coverage at school, my mom's cell drops about 5-10 calls a day |
| 19:43.31 | Sargun | ouch |
| 19:43.44 | nick125 | I tried calling my mom on my T-Mobile phone yesterday at school, and, on my end, it dropped the call about 5 times |
| 19:44.00 | vontrapp | google with wimax, ftw |
| 19:44.35 | nick125 | My Verizon phone works perfectly fine at school though. |
| 19:45.23 | nick125 | And, it's not like the problem with T-mobile at school is a device or SIM issue, either. |
| 19:46.11 | nick125 | They tell me to "just get used to it", I tell them "no thanks" |
| 19:46.59 | nick125 | Sargun: I'm debating between getting a data card or tethering. Both would cost the same per month. |
| 19:47.52 | Sargun | hm |
| 19:47.58 | Sargun | tether |
| 19:48.03 | Sargun | sprint, how is spritn |
| 19:48.19 | nick125 | Sprint is notorous for their horrible coverage in Albuquerque. |
| 19:49.55 | vontrapp | sprint sucks |
| 19:50.06 | nick125 | And, I about wanted to throw the phone when I called Sprint CS. |
| 19:50.13 | nick125 | That's how bad it was. |
| 19:50.46 | vontrapp | they bought nextel, the same week i noticed considerable change in quality, dropped calls, etc |
| 19:51.00 | nick125 | Even though I'd get a better discount with Sprint. |
| 19:51.21 | nick125 | (25% vs. 22%/20%) |
| 19:51.36 | vontrapp | and then they wanted me to pay the disconnect fee, i didn't sign up for sprint, nor did i ever want them |
| 19:51.42 | Sargun | their CSR suckc |
| 19:51.53 | vontrapp | discount on what? |
| 19:52.09 | nick125 | vontrapp: voice service and data. |
| 19:52.28 | vontrapp | so you mean a better rate |
| 19:52.32 | nick125 | I'd get 25% with Sprint off voice and data, while I only get 22% off of voice and 20% off of data with Verizon |
| 19:53.08 | vontrapp | but if sprint costs more baseline, that means you still pay more |
| 19:53.43 | nick125 | vontrapp: Sprint's rates were a tad bit higher than Verizon. $45 for 450 minutes w/ m2m and night/weekends vs. $40 for the same thing with Verizon |
| 19:54.01 | vontrapp | what's the deal with this discount stuff, why do you decide based on the relative discounts? shouldn't it boil down to actual price? |
| 19:54.46 | nick125 | vontrapp: I was using that and the actual price as a determinating factor. |
| 19:54.46 | nick125 | But, for voice, Sprint and Verizon are about the same price. |
| 19:56.33 | nick125 | I was also using CS/sales as a determining factor |
| 19:56.55 | Sargun | CSRs suck |
| 19:57.11 | vontrapp | ~csr |
| 19:57.15 | ibot | i guess csr is the Kernel Level API to the Intel Xscale NPE's |
| 19:57.20 | Sargun | I've never met a good CSR |
| 19:57.28 | nick125 | Sprint completely dodged my roaming question, and went on to talk about more plans. Verizon didn't know the answer, but, transfered me to someone who knew. Alltel answered the questions, but, the CSR was really too pushy to get me to sign up right then and there.. |
| 20:01.24 | nick125 | Also, Sprint doesn't have any EvDO coverage here, while Verizon has EvDO RevA |
| 20:03.22 | nick125 | T-Mobile's CSRs are okay, but, it just seems that they are powerless to do anything. |
| 20:05.17 | nick125 | I've called in about 15 times in the last year about these coverage issues, and, nothing ever happened from any of the calls |
| 20:06.37 | *** join/#utah bonez44 (n=scott@c-24-10-147-163.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:06.53 | bonez44 | I need to open a .cab file....is this possible in linux? |
| 20:07.00 | Supaplex | cabextract |
| 20:08.42 | bonez44 | what I really need is to find a good expense report, and time sheet....for employees to fill in....to account for their phone and travel expenses.....that I can use with oocalc or oowriter |
| 20:08.56 | nick125 | Sargun: Would your decision on tethering depend on what device I was tethering with? |
| 20:09.23 | Supaplex | bonez44: so I assume you've been at the office.microsoft.com site to swipe free templates huh? :) |
| 20:09.33 | bonez44 | yeah.....you caught me... |
| 20:09.49 | bonez44 | it's only because i went FIRST to openoffice.org and could not find anything there... |
| 20:10.14 | bonez44 | I bet my right arm that there are lots and lots of templates available for oo , but that no one posts them to make available... |
| 20:10.18 | Supaplex | their templates are lacking |
| 20:10.22 | Sargun | nick125, yes |
| 20:10.23 | bonez44 | or, maybe I just don't know where to look..... |
| 20:10.45 | nick125 | Sargun: If I was going to tether with a Motorola KRZR K1m.. |
| 20:14.32 | Sargun | hm |
| 20:14.34 | Sargun | nick125, call me |
| 20:14.41 | *** join/#utah Hearts|laptop (n=hearts@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 20:14.43 | Sargun | can you |
| 20:14.46 | Sargun | Hearts|laptop, huh? |
| 20:14.53 | nick125 | lemme grab my treo, one sec |
| 20:15.02 | Sargun | number: 925-202-9485 |
| 20:15.20 | Hearts|laptop | Sargun? |
| 20:15.34 | Sargun | who be you |
| 20:15.56 | Hearts|laptop | I be Heartsbane on my laptop.... who be you? |
| 20:16.02 | bonez44 | nick125: which Treo do you use? |
| 20:16.08 | nick125 | bonez44: 680 |
| 20:16.11 | nick125 | Sargun: ring ring |
| 20:16.26 | bonez44 | my wife has the 650.....I want to wait until I can get one that's unlocked....and programmable...and all that.... |
| 20:16.47 | bonez44 | nick125: oh, and I want one that's rugged..not fragile like my wife's 650 appears to be |
| 20:20.27 | nick125 | bonez44: Mm..yeah |
| 20:24.57 | nick125 | bonez44: most treos appear like that, to me least. |
| 20:27.49 | bonez44 | I have a Nokia 6010...it's indestructible........ cheap, not fancy, but it doesn't break.... |
| 20:29.39 | Supaplex | hence indestructible |
| 20:29.52 | Supaplex | does it swim to? |
| 20:34.34 | bonez44 | Supaplex: don't swim, but then i don't know any phone that swims.. |
| 20:34.55 | sontek | des it float? |
| 20:34.57 | Supaplex | eg, water proof |
| 20:35.04 | sontek | ITS A WITCH! |
| 20:35.13 | bonez44 | hmmm likely doesn't float....hehehe, must be a witch... |
| 20:35.16 | bonez44 | let's BURN IT..... |
| 20:36.51 | Heartsbane | hehehe |
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| 21:00.52 | harleypig | Man ... it's been so long since I've seen Real Genius! hilarious |
| 21:10.12 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (n=timr@rikers.org) |
| 21:10.12 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 21:15.04 | Supaplex | TimRiker I saw your name on the gurulabs attendes, were you able to make it? maybe a different class? |
| 21:56.42 | TimRiker | I won a coupon, but I gave it to a friend. |
| 22:28.01 | Supaplex | ahh ok |
| 22:42.16 | harleypig | netflix instant play is pretty cool ... my only problem is that it isn't stand alone (I have to play it through ie and all the extra crap on the screen |
| 22:42.21 | harleypig | and I can't play it on linux |
| 22:42.48 | Supaplex | ughkth |
| 22:43.19 | harleypig | Although, I s'pose I could find some time to see if I can get some version of win to work... |
| 22:44.06 | harleypig | Oh, and their selection of sci-fi is lacking |
| 22:45.09 | fozzmoo | harleypig: ies4lin? |
| 22:45.29 | harleypig | ? never heard of it |
| 22:45.54 | fozzmoo | Some guy in Brazil... |
| 22:46.06 | fozzmoo | wrapped IE5 and IE6 in Wine. |
| 22:46.08 | fozzmoo | Works great. |
| 22:46.22 | fozzmoo | Trying to find the page... |
| 22:46.37 | fozzmoo | http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page |
| 22:47.06 | fozzmoo | If it requires Windows Media PLayer, it might not be the right solution. |
| 22:47.28 | Supaplex | how about mplayer+ies4linux? (longshot) |
| 22:47.59 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo!!!!! |
| 22:48.05 | Lakshmi | your alive!!! |
| 22:48.44 | Supaplex | the fozz hazz azzived longtime ago |
| 22:49.12 | fozzmoo | yeah- and now I'm gonna go upstairs and relax. |
| 22:49.18 | Lakshmi | u hate me! |
| 22:49.24 | fozzmoo | with passion. |
| 22:50.40 | Lakshmi | ouch that hurts |
| 22:50.42 | Lakshmi | thanks |
