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| 00:38.18 | levi | elg: I would, if you were in Utah. |
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| 04:13.44 | tristanbob_ | any carpools to UTOSC for Thursday from Ogden? |
| 04:14.46 | herlo | tristanbob_: I'd carpool with you, but I'll be there already |
| 04:14.48 | herlo | :) |
| 04:14.53 | herlo | tristanbob_: how's life anyway |
| 04:15.06 | tristanbob_ | herlo: terrific - (except that my baby is SCREAMING right now) |
| 04:15.24 | herlo | tristanbob_: that's the life of a dad. Enjoy it while it lasts :) |
| 04:15.37 | tristanbob_ | I do love her - most of today was great - lots of smiles and giggles |
| 04:18.17 | herlo | tristanbob_: it only gets better |
| 04:18.33 | herlo | tristanbob_: although I've heard girls are harder to raise than boys |
| 04:19.18 | tristanbob_ | herlo: who knows? |
| 04:19.38 | herlo | tristanbob_: those who have both boys and girls? |
| 04:19.40 | herlo | hehe |
| 04:19.57 | tristanbob_ | herlo: any good gaming parties recently (non-virtual games) |
| 04:20.14 | tristanbob_ | the old-fashioned type of games |
| 04:20.18 | tristanbob_ | like pick-up-sticks |
| 04:23.13 | herlo | tristanbob_: we play every other tuesday night at my house in Orem |
| 04:23.44 | herlo | tristanbob_: I'm regularly out of town though. I also plan on starting one up when I move to Murray. |
| 04:23.49 | herlo | tristanbob_: http://www.gamesutah.org |
| 04:46.48 | Tene | That's how I play... maybe not how you play. |
| 05:31.43 | Supaplex | ~play |
| 05:31.43 | ibot | and now, for something completely different |
| 05:40.52 | herlo | pineapple! |
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| 08:12.24 | Supaplex | ~sleep |
| 08:12.25 | ibot | hmm... sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 08:12.34 | Supaplex | indeed |
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| 08:49.03 | etahhhh | Hey all. Anybody around? |
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| 13:13.56 | The | Anyone here yet? |
| 13:14.53 | shadowwire | Hey Klys |
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| 13:20.34 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.24 | shadowwire | Say what? |
| 13:30.42 | goozbach | squater? |
| 13:30.50 | goozbach | whino says what |
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| 13:44.50 | jsmith | elg: Yup, exactly... where would we be without that knowledge?!? |
| 13:45.25 | goozbach | elg: http://www.furniturestoreblog.com/2007/09/02/cool_custom_kitchen_fireplace.html |
| 13:45.26 | brac | [Cool custom kitchen fireplace] |
| 13:46.25 | goozbach | opera has been sucking it up lately |
| 13:46.36 | goozbach | it keeps freezing and forcing me to close it |
| 13:47.44 | elg | goozbach: cool |
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| 14:47.58 | elg | this is funny. build problem in flightgear on windows, msvc8 throwing errors where gcc doesn't. someone thinks it's a warning not an error, and it's warning because someone's writing to a const char* (and he thinks that gcc wouldn't complain about that). |
| 14:48.32 | elg | turns out something (strchr()?) on windows takes a const char* argument instead of char*, when it probably shouldn't. anyway, that wasn't the funny part (that's the sad part) |
| 14:49.33 | elg | the funny part is that the very same people who wouldn't accept a patch because it had "silly" variable names like ii instead of i for an iterator variable, were advocating just turning off warnings in windows because "it's not a big deal" that someone's writing to a const char* |
| 14:51.13 | elg | intelligent-and-knowledgeable-and-competent-but-mysteriously-despised contributor points that out (he was the one with the "silly" variable names) and in the process points out that no compiler will let you write to a const char*, to which the reply from an equally-competent-but-mysteriously-hates-the-other-guy developer: |
| 14:51.50 | elg | void foo(const char*p) {*(char*)p = 0;} // Look, the compiler doesn't complain! |
| 14:52.16 | elg | funny how people's intelligence can go out the window when they have such active derision for a person |
| 14:53.11 | Jayce^ | shut up elg... just shut up will you!!!!!! |
| 14:53.17 | elg | never! |
| 14:53.21 | elg | ~stats |
| 14:53.21 | ibot | Since Mon Aug 20 13:04:13 2007, there have been 355 modifications, 1797 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1261 commands. I have been awake for 15d 1h 49m 8s this session, and currently reference 113539 factoids. I'm using about 18964 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 32147.4/1408.76 child 0/0.02 |
| 14:53.29 | elg | ~stats #utah |
| 14:53.42 | elg | grumble |
| 14:54.22 | elg | well, ibot says I'm not the most talkative here, so you must just be jealous. ;-) |
| 14:55.34 | elg | wow, #utah's most active time is 1am |
| 14:55.49 | elg | well, for that one day anyway :) |
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| 15:03.32 | tensai | elg: remember those times are UTC |
| 15:03.49 | elg | ah. well then that makes more sense |
| 15:04.21 | elg | doesn't say utc anywhere |
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| 15:04.47 | elg | -chat harleypig wearing |
| 15:04.48 | brac | harleypig wearing |
| 15:04.53 | elg | -chat harleypig in |
| 15:04.53 | brac | harleypig in a long conference call time. :( |
| 15:05.02 | harleypig | :) |
| 15:05.17 | elg | long does rhyme with thong... |
| 15:05.55 | harleypig | harleypig in a thong, conference call time! |
| 15:09.33 | Jayce^ | :) |
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| 16:17.20 | levi | elg: I guess I'm not the only one who thought uncle_jesse's actions were a bit lame there. |
| 16:17.36 | levi | I guess it's all okay if you're sticking it to a TV network. |
| 16:19.37 | levi | Time for me to start swapping work-related stuff back into my brain... |
| 16:20.18 | Jayce^ | gotta pull it off disk too 'eh? |
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| 16:27.10 | Jayce^ | redbeard2, just for you... http://www.uglyhill.com/d/20070903.html |
| 16:32.23 | elg | levi: affirmative |
| 16:32.38 | elg | in case anyone cares, I switched offices and now I have a window |
| 16:32.57 | Jayce^ | aren't grad students forbidden from having windows? |
| 16:34.01 | tensai | if there are no windows on your computer, you get one in the wall for free |
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| 16:35.42 | thaddeusq | herlo: ping |
| 16:39.03 | elg | Jayce^: don't tell |
| 16:40.57 | findlay-w | hello |
| 16:41.05 | elg | not you again |
| 16:41.13 | findlay-w | yup, it's me |
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| 17:02.06 | findlay-w | -chat about ~quote scox |
| 17:02.06 | brac | ~quote scox |
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| 17:09.46 | ^Migs^ | we got stupid moths in our closet |
| 17:09.50 | ^Migs^ | one must've flown in through a hole in our window screen |
| 17:09.57 | ^Migs^ | now there's caterpillars around our room |
| 17:10.07 | ^Migs^ | having tiny fuzzy caterpillars around your room isn't as cute as you might think |
| 17:11.35 | goozbach | adoreable!!! |
| 17:11.39 | elg | it's cuter than half-dead cockroaches |
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| 17:14.06 | jsmith | While my house was being built, we were living with my wife's great-aunt... every night during the summer, hornets would get into the room |
| 17:15.50 | elg | we have mosquito problems |
| 17:16.14 | findlay-w | I saw a bug in my apartment |
| 17:16.15 | findlay-w | once |
| 17:16.16 | elg | our "screen" only spans the sliding door part, with a big 2-inch gap at the edge where mosquitos can saunter on in |
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| 17:28.17 | ^Migs^ | I was looking up ways to get rid of moths, and I saw a funny comment by someone, let me find it |
| 17:28.33 | ^Migs^ | "help! something must have hatched and we suddenly have about a dozen tiny moths in our kitchen. They are really small, the size of flies...How can I get rid of them before they lay eggs and multiply? I don't want to spray anything toxic in my kitchen, and the smell of mothballs makes me gag. Are there any natural remedies??" |
| 17:28.54 | ^Migs^ | "Bald faced hornets will lay eggs on larval moths. The larval hornets then devour the caterpillar while it is still alive. Therefore, releasing a large amount of hornets into your house should alleviate the moth problem." |
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| 17:30.52 | ^Migs^ | hahaha, that had me laughing |
| 17:31.00 | elg | :) |
| 17:31.13 | Keighvin | ~lart xorg.conf |
| 17:31.13 | ibot | slaps a compatible dib on xorg.conf's head |
| 17:32.27 | Keighvin | Anybody else here running X using ATI drivers? |
| 17:33.52 | findlay-w | ~lart websites that silently truncate the password you entered/created |
| 17:33.52 | ibot | eats websites that silently truncate the password you entered/created's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 17:43.23 | findlay-w | oh, it's ok that they truncated my password becuase they just emailed it to me in clear text |
| 17:43.30 | findlay-w | I was a little worried about that for a while |
| 17:54.26 | ^Migs^ | hahaha, which web site was this? |
| 17:55.21 | ^Migs^ | I store all our parent passwords in clear text because 50% of our parents have problems typing in their passwords correctly, and we need to make sure they actually can log in normally. |
| 17:58.49 | Tene | findlay-w: eww |
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| 19:06.33 | herlo | thaddeusq: pong |
| 19:06.51 | thaddeusq | herlo: It's about time. :) |
| 19:07.08 | herlo | thaddeusq: been out and about all day doing crazy amounts of errands |
| 19:07.54 | thaddeusq | herlo: http://www.gpsymothart.com since you like geocaching, I thought you should see this website. |
| 19:07.56 | brac | [Carbon Business] |
| 19:08.18 | levi | Ugh, I ate too much. |
| 19:08.40 | herlo | thaddeusq: tx. Will look at it |
| 19:12.07 | nick125_treo | I'm thinking of OSSing my ticketing system and offering hosted ticket trackers...what do you guys think of $5 a month for 10 staff members, 500 user accounts, and 1,500 tickets a month? |
| 19:14.01 | jsmith | nick125_treo: Billing becomes a nightmare, unless you charge annually instead of monthly... and if you're charging annually, you might as well up the price |
| 19:15.48 | nick125_treo | Hmm. |
| 19:23.42 | Jayce^ | well, billing can always be a nightmare, but there can be solutions to that.. |
| 19:24.14 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: Oh really? You wouldn't by chance know of an integrated online billing system that could be plugged in? |
| 19:24.30 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 19:24.34 | Jayce^ | I *might* have an idea :) |
| 19:25.08 | jsmith | Jayce^: But is it free? Flexible? |
| 19:29.09 | Jayce^ | I should have you in the class with those ready |
| 19:30.56 | jsmith | Hey, I'd be happy to play devil's advocate... you wanna do the same with my presentation? |
| 19:36.44 | Jayce^ | jsmith, looks like your second presentation competes with the last half of my tutorial |
| 19:37.19 | Jayce^ | though would be nice to get your input on some stuff.. would like to refactor some of the voip billing stuff in freeside |
| 19:37.22 | jsmith | Jayce^: We'll have to try to fix that... |
| 19:37.52 | jsmith | Jayce^: I'm happy to give you my thoughts |
| 20:18.08 | levi | I want a pair of these: http://www.amazon.com/JBL-L890-8-Inch-Floorstanding-Loudspeaker/dp/B000G67Q00 |
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| 20:43.27 | elg | levi: i'll take one too |
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| 20:52.42 | levi | elg: Just one? |
| 20:53.28 | levi | OK, anyone have a recommendation for a good primary care physician in the Lehi area? |
| 20:54.07 | Jayce^ | levi, my wife goes down to Provo still for her favorite PCP/OB |
| 20:54.37 | levi | My wife's OB isn't a PCP, so that doesn't help much. |
| 20:55.07 | levi | Jayce^: Where do you go for a PCP? |
| 20:55.34 | Jayce^ | Grandview Family Medicine.. It's on state street, the hill going from provo-orem |
| 20:56.46 | ^Migs^ | What exactly does angel dust do to your body? |
| 20:56.53 | ^Migs^ | speaking of PCP, that is |
| 20:57.07 | ^Migs^ | why do all you live so far south? |
| 20:57.14 | levi | I might know if I was talking about that kind of PCP. |
| 20:57.28 | levi | ^Migs^: Why do you live so far north? |
| 20:57.38 | ^Migs^ | because north is where the party is |
| 20:57.47 | ^Migs^ | you're all boring redneck southerners |
| 20:58.15 | ^Migs^ | southern northern utah is too densely populated anyway |
| 20:58.22 | ^Migs^ | for my taste at least |
| 20:58.46 | levi | Lehi isn't particularly dense. |
| 21:04.30 | ^Migs^ | I suppose it's not |
| 21:04.40 | ^Migs^ | Probably less dense than the Ogden-Layton area |
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| 21:27.22 | sjansen | So the consultants, now having lost their primary customer, were at a bar one day, and one of them (named L. Ron Hubbard) said: "This nickel-a-line-of-code gig is lame. You know where the real money is at? You start your own religion." And that's how both Extreme Programming and Scientology were born. -- http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/good-agile-bad-agile_27.html |
| 21:28.18 | macnewbold | that's not the first time I've heard that |
| 21:29.56 | sjansen | macnewbold: Really? I've heard both separately, but that the first I've seen them paired. Like chocolate and peanut butter, it may be bad but if tastes so good. |
| 21:30.45 | macnewbold | well, honestly, not the extreme programming part. but the scientology and the comment about the real money being in starting your own religion, definitely. |
| 21:30.54 | macnewbold | I would be surprised if extreme programming could be traced back to him |
| 21:31.06 | macnewbold | I never knew he was a programmer, just that he was a sci-fi author |
| 21:31.17 | macnewbold | which makes sense looking at the tenets of scientology |
| 21:31.33 | jsmith | They have tenets? |
| 21:31.42 | macnewbold | sorry, that should have said "tenets" |
| 21:31.45 | macnewbold | with quotes |
| 21:31.54 | jsmith | Oh, they have "tenets" |
| 21:31.54 | macnewbold | I found quite a lot about them on wikipedia |
| 21:32.07 | findlay-w | Tene: this is you're fault |
| 21:32.07 | jsmith | Interesting... |
| 21:32.36 | findlay-w | Tene: I'm using enlightenment ... and I'm enjoying it |
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| 22:48.40 | tensai | findlay-w: are we blaming Tene for scientology too? |
| 22:50.36 | Tene | too? what else am I being blamed for? |
| 22:53.53 | tensai | [15:32] <findlay-w> Tene: I'm using enlightenment ... and I'm enjoying it |
| 22:54.10 | tensai | Tene: why, what else have you done? |
| 22:54.51 | Tene | Less than I'm being blamed for. ;) |
| 22:55.05 | Tene | Hmm. 'more' would have been better there. |
| 23:20.48 | levi | Hmm, now uncle_jesse is both a domain squatter and an overseas outsourcer. |
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