| 00:08.50 | tuxd00d | Could one of you guys tell me which command I need to go through a list of files, and preform a action on each file..... so like a "for each" statement |
| 00:09.02 | tuxd00d | like foreach(*.txt) {} |
| 00:09.29 | tuxd00d | I need to drop call files into asterisk at a slower rate than all at once |
| 00:09.44 | Tene | like this: |
| 00:10.08 | Tene | for i in file1 file2 file3 file4 ; cp $i /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing ; sleep 1 ; done |
| 00:10.21 | Tene | that work for you? |
| 00:11.09 | tuxd00d | well, each file is call #######.call which #### is the phone number |
| 00:11.32 | tuxd00d | so I will use the 'sleep 1m' |
| 00:12.16 | tuxd00d | so I need one that will grap all the '.call' files and go through each |
| 00:12.32 | tuxd00d | I'm just having a brain meltdown |
| 00:18.58 | Tene | 'kay |
| 00:19.16 | Tene | for i in $(ls *.call) ; do cp $i /where/ever/ ; sleep 1m ; done |
| 00:19.28 | Tene | like that? |
| 00:22.46 | tuxd00d | thanks Tene |
| 00:24.40 | Tene | np |
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| 01:11.01 | Tene | ~sinuhe sinuhe |
| 01:11.02 | ibot | ACTION describes all the benefits of GNU*PLUS*Linux to sinuhe |
| 01:17.46 | sinuhe | Heya, Tene. Long time no hear. |
| 01:17.57 | Tene | Yeah. |
| 01:18.11 | sinuhe | How are the classes going? |
| 01:19.39 | Tene | Decent. |
| 01:21.37 | sinuhe | ~verbosity Tene |
| 01:21.58 | Tene | -1 |
| 01:22.21 | sinuhe | Heh |
| 01:24.55 | sontek | Tene: you can just do for i in *.call you don't have to do the ls stuff |
| 01:25.18 | Tene | sontek: I know. |
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| 01:26.33 | Tene | itsafozz |
| 01:27.19 | sontek | Tene: ahh, well then you should use it when showing people how to do things =0 |
| 01:28.13 | Tene | I like the more general solution. |
| 01:28.14 | fozzmoo | Tene: Hi |
| 01:28.27 | fozzmoo | Tene: Where you be this week? |
| 01:28.50 | Tene | fozzmoo: Tyson's Corner, near DC |
| 01:29.00 | fozzmoo | OKay. |
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| 01:31.03 | bonez41 | is it possible to extract data from a HDD out of a laptop, i.e., possible to find hookups, cabling that I could plug into USB or otherwise? My wife's laptop died, and she didn't get the data off her laptop's HDD... |
| 01:32.32 | sontek | bonez41: there are laptop to IDE converters |
| 01:33.07 | bonez41 | sontek: with the appropriate connectors and such? |
| 01:33.23 | bonez41 | that's what I need, I guess.. |
| 01:33.50 | fozzmoo | bonez41: If the hard drive is PATA, then you'll need one of those handy-dandy converters. |
| 01:34.02 | fozzmoo | If the hard drive is SATA, then you can use standard SATA power and data connectors. |
| 01:34.27 | sontek | bonez41: http://www.datapro.net/products/laptop-ide-hard-drive-adaptor.html |
| 01:34.32 | sontek | bonez41: something like that |
| 01:36.11 | sinuhe | Tene: I was in D.C. last week (teaching Columbia, MD). D.C. has good food, horrible driving. |
| 01:36.55 | sontek | sinuhe: if you like driving in round-a-bouts all day D.C is fun :P |
| 01:37.37 | sinuhe | sontek: I liked the round-a-bouts. The frustration for me with D.C. was the one way roads that took you half way across town before you could turn around. |
| 01:40.33 | fozzmoo | Tene: A whole buunch of Catalyst modules have shown up in FC6 extras. |
| 01:40.47 | Tene | nice |
| 01:41.00 | fozzmoo | I haven't checked F7, but it woudln't surprise me. |
| 01:41.38 | fozzmoo | Yep. It's there. |
| 01:41.44 | fozzmoo | perl-Catalyst-Runtime.noarch 5.7007-4.fc7 fedora |
| 01:42.05 | fozzmoo | And it's about time! |
| 01:42.54 | Tene | I just tried to update my F7-test2 system to current F7. |
| 01:43.04 | Tene | Yum told me that it needed 230GB free |
| 01:47.25 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 01:59.48 | levi | So, the new phones my wife bought happen to be 2.4Ghz. Grr. |
| 01:59.54 | levi | Totally wipes out my WAP. |
| 02:01.29 | Tene | ~taunt levi |
| 02:01.29 | ibot | ACTION folds a paper football and flicks it at levi |
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| 02:16.45 | calvarez | which command can tell me which shell I'm using? |
| 02:17.05 | calvarez | ~quote scox |
| 02:17.20 | calvarez | hahahaha |
| 02:20.53 | sontek | calvarez: echo $SHELL |
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| 03:43.07 | brasto | anyone know of a good Mac FTP client |
| 03:43.49 | fozzmoo | Cyber... cyberlink? |
| 03:44.04 | fozzmoo | No, that's not it. |
| 03:44.13 | fozzmoo | Cyberduck. |
| 03:44.21 | fozzmoo | http://cyberduck.ch/ |
| 03:44.28 | brasto | is cyberduck preinstalled? |
| 03:44.40 | brasto | I'm guessing from the link... pro'lly not |
| 03:44.59 | fozzmoo | The command line ftp and sftp are very likely pre-installed. |
| 03:45.50 | brasto | yep, but this caller is probably not cli savvy |
| 03:46.12 | brasto | to quote my caller "I can do drag-and-drop really well"... |
| 03:46.15 | brasto | :) |
| 03:46.28 | brasto | thanks fozzmoo, I'm having the caller download that program. |
| 03:46.49 | fozzmoo | Another one is called fugu |
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| 03:49.55 | brasto | the caller was trying to use Safari - showing that the person recently came from Windows. |
| 03:50.05 | brasto | Safari for ftp upload |
| 03:51.26 | brasto | ibot, hplsbyufan is Brandon Stout's screen name on various IM protocols before "brasto". It stands for "Hopeless BYU Fan", not "Helpless" or "Hapless". Sort of like Ace Ventura's "Hopless Romantic" idea, the "Hopeless" part of "Hopless BYU Fan" refers to brasto, not to BYU. $this, because brasto can't help but love everything BYU. |
| 03:51.27 | ibot | brasto: i already had it that way |
| 03:51.48 | brasto | lol, is ibot the same as jbot on #uphpu? |
| 03:51.55 | brasto | ~hplsbyufan |
| 03:51.56 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, hplsbyufan is Brandon Stout's screen name on various IM protocols before "brasto". It stands for "Hopeless BYU Fan", not "Helpless" or "Hapless". Sort of like Ace Ventura's "Hopless Romantic" idea, the "Hopeless" part of "Hopless BYU Fan" refers to brasto, not to BYU. $this, because brasto can't help but love everything BYU. |
| 03:52.36 | phikzd | ~brasto |
| 03:52.37 | ibot | brasto is, like, a day late and a dollar short, or looks good when he's going to the prom, or cool, or cool, or a nerd, or not available, or and one cool guy |
| 03:53.17 | brasto | yep, that was never defined in #utah, but in #uphpu... |
| 03:53.33 | phikzd | how is it defined? |
| 03:53.52 | brasto | exactly the same |
| 03:54.01 | phikzd | how does it become defined |
| 03:54.04 | phikzd | ? |
| 03:54.19 | phikzd | did you define that? |
| 03:54.29 | brasto | oddly, #uphpu calls it jbot, and #utah calls it ibot, so I thought they were separate. |
| 03:54.36 | phikzd | ~phikzd |
| 03:54.45 | brasto | ibot, that is how you define that |
| 03:54.45 | ibot | brasto: what are you talking about? |
| 03:54.49 | brasto | lol |
| 03:54.59 | phikzd | how do I set a definition? |
| 03:55.02 | fozzmoo | ibot, phikzd is a nosy guy. |
| 03:55.02 | ibot | fozzmoo: okay |
| 03:55.08 | phikzd | LOL |
| 03:55.12 | phikzd | ~phikzd |
| 03:55.13 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, phikzd is a nosy guy. |
| 03:55.30 | phikzd | ibot, I have a big nose, too. |
| 03:55.31 | ibot | You have a big nose, too.? |
| 03:55.42 | brasto | ibot, phikzd is also a funny guy |
| 03:55.42 | ibot | brasto: okay |
| 03:55.54 | brasto | ~phikzd |
| 03:55.55 | ibot | methinks phikzd is a nosy guy. a funny guy |
| 03:56.19 | phikzd | ibot, are you my mommy? |
| 03:57.05 | brasto | ~brastotack phikzd |
| 03:57.06 | ibot | ACTION lectures phikzd on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until phikzd can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
| 03:57.35 | brasto | philkzd, have we answered your question about defining terms? |
| 03:58.35 | phikzd | yeah |
| 03:58.46 | phikzd | ibot, phikzd has two big yellow teeth. |
| 03:58.55 | phikzd | ibot, phikzd is a big giant robot |
| 03:58.55 | ibot | ...but phikzd is already something else... |
| 03:59.10 | phikzd | ibot, phikzd is also big giant robot |
| 03:59.10 | ibot | phikzd: okay |
| 03:59.14 | phikzd | dangit |
| 03:59.16 | fozzmoo | ibot, phikzd is not a nosy guy. |
| 03:59.17 | ibot | ...but phikzd is already something else... |
| 03:59.17 | phikzd | now that sounds Japanese |
| 03:59.23 | brasto | jbot, phikzd is also has two big yellow teeth |
| 03:59.27 | phikzd | ~phikzd |
| 03:59.27 | ibot | [phikzd] a nosy guy. a funny guy, or big giant robot |
| 03:59.53 | phikzd | ibot, phikzd is not big giant robot |
| 03:59.53 | ibot | ...but phikzd is already something else... |
| 04:00.45 | brasto | ibot, phikzd is also has two big yellow teeth |
| 04:00.46 | ibot | brasto: okay |
| 04:00.58 | phikzd | ~phikzd |
| 04:00.58 | ibot | [phikzd] a nosy guy. a funny guy, or big giant robot, or has two big yellow teeth |
| 04:01.13 | phikzd | NICE! |
| 04:01.30 | phikzd | I have myself an online character now .. all because of this bot. |
| 04:01.30 | brasto | ibot, phikzd is also not big giant robot |
| 04:01.30 | ibot | brasto: okay |
| 04:01.48 | phikzd | ~phikzd |
| 04:01.48 | ibot | somebody said phikzd was a nosy guy. a funny guy, or big giant robot, or has two big yellow teeth, or not big giant robot |
| 04:01.52 | phikzd | LOL |
| 04:01.55 | phikzd | nt brasto |
| 04:02.14 | brasto | ibot, what is phikzd |
| 04:02.15 | ibot | ACTION is phikzd to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 04:02.34 | brasto | ??? |
| 04:02.51 | phikzd | haha, what the... |
| 04:02.52 | brasto | jbot, who is phikzd |
| 04:03.06 | phikzd | ibot, what is poo |
| 04:03.06 | ibot | ACTION is poo to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 04:03.28 | brasto | jbot poo |
| 04:03.33 | brasto | ibot poo |
| 04:03.33 | ibot | poo is smelly |
| 04:03.40 | phikzd | ibot, yellow |
| 04:03.40 | ibot | somebody said yellow was the color of your pee |
| 04:03.44 | phikzd | LOL |
| 04:03.45 | brasto | ibot philkzd |
| 04:03.48 | phikzd | hahahaha |
| 04:04.16 | brasto | ibot brasto |
| 04:04.17 | ibot | hmm... brasto is a day late and a dollar short, or looks good when he's going to the prom, or cool, or cool, or a nerd, or not available, or and one cool guy |
| 04:04.38 | phikzd | lol... |
| 04:04.45 | phikzd | or cool, or cool, or a nerd |
| 04:05.05 | phikzd | diverse definitions |
| 04:05.07 | brasto | ther've been lot's of good ones defined. Not sure how to get them all. |
| 04:05.09 | brasto | lol |
| 04:05.15 | brasto | yep, not all defined by me |
| 04:05.35 | brasto | and it wont let me do this: |
| 04:05.41 | brasto | ibot, forget brasto |
| 04:05.41 | ibot | brasto: i forgot brasto |
| 04:05.47 | brasto | ~brasto |
| 04:05.52 | phikzd | gg |
| 04:05.59 | brasto | odd, maybe it worked that time.... |
| 04:05.59 | phikzd | you owned yourself dude |
| 04:06.04 | phikzd | lol |
| 04:06.13 | Tene | ibot: tene |
| 04:06.13 | ibot | it has been said that tene is Tenebram, or the king of pirate, or my god, or chocolate frosted sugar bombs, or a liar, or more winningish than goozbach, or evil, or the ML master. Attach ye dragon |
| 04:06.22 | brasto | ibot, brasto is one cool guy |
| 04:06.23 | ibot | okay, brasto |
| 04:06.24 | Tene | ~lart phikzd |
| 04:06.24 | ibot | does a little 'dpkg -P phikzd' action |
| 04:07.36 | phikzd | ouch? |
| 04:07.39 | phikzd | not sure what he did to me |
| 04:07.54 | brasto | lol |
| 04:08.11 | Tene | ~herlo phikzd |
| 04:08.12 | ibot | ACTION pokes phikzd in they eye with a sharp needle |
| 04:08.15 | brasto | not entirely sure, but it looks like he uninstalled you |
| 04:08.24 | phikzd | ~phikzd |
| 04:08.24 | ibot | somebody said phikzd was a nosy guy. a funny guy, or big giant robot, or has two big yellow teeth, or not big giant robot |
| 04:08.30 | brasto | ~fetch |
| 04:08.31 | ibot | hmm... fetch is Hey, just say what you really mean! |
| 04:09.13 | brasto | ~word |
| 04:09.14 | ibot | i heard word is in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons. |
| 04:10.35 | brasto | riker wrote the bot |
| 04:12.11 | brasto | anyone know riker's web page? |
| 04:12.17 | brasto | ~jbot |
| 04:12.18 | ibot | hmm... jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. |
| 04:12.27 | brasto | ~ibot |
| 04:12.27 | ibot | somebody said ibot was a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 04:12.33 | phikzd | ~brasto |
| 04:12.34 | ibot | well, brasto is one cool guy |
| 04:12.43 | brasto | there it is |
| 04:12.46 | phikzd | ~phikzd |
| 04:12.46 | ibot | i guess phikzd is a nosy guy. a funny guy, or big giant robot, or has two big yellow teeth, or not big giant robot |
| 04:12.59 | phikzd | you were right! |
| 04:14.14 | brasto | http://rikers.org/ |
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| 06:52.47 | nick125_treo | ~quote SCOX |
| 06:52.57 | nick125_treo | :-) |
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| 14:25.31 | smallfoot- | God does not exist. |
| 14:25.43 | smallfoot- | p.s Jesus was black. |
| 14:27.41 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 14:27.45 | ^Migs^ | what if all he's saying is true? |
| 14:27.48 | harleypig | meh ... he's already wearing it around his neck. |
| 14:27.55 | goozbach | so? |
| 14:27.56 | ^Migs^ | Is it still trolling, just because it goes against our preconceived notions? |
| 14:28.13 | harleypig | ^Migs^: It's designed to inflame ... it's a troll. |
| 14:28.13 | ^Migs^ | Galileo was also considered a "troll." |
| 14:28.38 | goozbach | I guess I should do my optly duties |
| 14:28.45 | ^Migs^ | I'm just saying, what's so bad about trolling if what he's doing is trying to pass on truth? |
| 14:28.57 | harleypig | And he wasn't black, he was a jew ... very distinctive difference. |
| 14:28.58 | ^Migs^ | "troll" is such a negative word. |
| 14:28.59 | goozbach | but he's not defending himself so it takes all my fun out of it |
| 14:29.12 | ^Migs^ | GOod point |
| 14:29.19 | ^Migs^ | smallfoot-, can you back up your points with good arguments? |
| 14:29.20 | goozbach | and he really hasn't said anything REALLY derogitory |
| 14:29.28 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Now, what you're doing is a much more refined troll. :> |
| 14:29.40 | Jayce^ | drive by trolling, except he hasnt' left.. |
| 14:29.53 | goozbach | yeah, I mean he fails it major |
| 14:29.58 | goozbach | I'm not even upset |
| 14:30.04 | ^Migs^ | see, at least when I troll I stick around |
| 14:30.06 | goozbach | smallfoot-: you call yourself a troll? |
| 14:30.25 | goozbach | now, ^Migs^, *HE*'s a class-A troll |
| 14:30.31 | goozbach | one of the best |
| 14:30.36 | ^Migs^ | I wouldn't really say that |
| 14:30.46 | goozbach | mostly because he makes you think he isn't a troll |
| 14:31.02 | ^Migs^ | I don't think it's so polarized: either you're a troll or you're not. That doesn't work. |
| 14:31.07 | ^Migs^ | Some people, like me, are just "eccentric." |
| 14:31.21 | goozbach | it probally sucks not believing in a higher being |
| 14:31.24 | harleypig | eclectic |
| 14:31.28 | goozbach | poor guy |
| 14:31.39 | ^Migs^ | I know. What do you see as your purpose in life, smallfoot-? |
| 14:31.59 | ^Migs^ | If God doesn't exist, what purpose is there to this life we have? |
| 14:32.33 | goozbach | ^Migs^: I think it's sort of an "eat drink and be merry" type life |
| 14:32.38 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 14:32.43 | fozzmoo | Do what feels good. :) |
| 14:32.44 | ^Migs^ | That's quite a profound and important statement he made. Why is he not responding? |
| 14:33.03 | ^Migs^ | Nonsense. Plenty of atheists follow the secular humanist path, and do what's good for humanity. |
| 14:33.06 | goozbach | but as you can see, that's not totally fulfilling, so you have to turn to trolldom to make yourself feel better |
| 14:33.23 | ^Migs^ | I'm confused by the second statement: "Jesus was black." |
| 14:33.25 | ^Migs^ | Define "black." |
| 14:33.40 | ^Migs^ | They are some so-called "black people" who are whiter than so-called "white people." |
| 14:33.46 | goozbach | meh, I tire of it |
| 14:33.51 | *** mode/#utah [+b *!*=smallfoo@clamwin/translator/smallfoot] by goozbach |
| 14:34.13 | fozzmoo | Hmmm. I like womens volleyball, I've decided. |
| 14:34.22 | goozbach | fozzmoo: really? |
| 14:34.26 | goozbach | beach volleyball? |
| 14:34.27 | ^Migs^ | yeah, much better than watching a bunch of sweaty men play volleybal |
| 14:34.29 | ^Migs^ | l |
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| 14:34.37 | goozbach | or just regular kind |
| 14:34.55 | goozbach | see he left *sniff* |
| 14:35.06 | fozzmoo | UCLA's playing Nebraska on some channel right now. |
| 14:35.10 | ^Migs^ | he had the perfect chance to engage in a thoughtful discussion, and he blew it |
| 14:36.18 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Beach volleyball is fun to watch too. |
| 14:36.39 | harleypig | Those women are little too bony |
| 14:36.42 | harleypig | and not bouncy enough. |
| 14:37.01 | fozzmoo | Hey harleypig: How are you? |
| 14:37.10 | harleypig | Getting along. |
| 14:37.45 | Jayce^ | harleypig, that's why you play DOA |
| 14:37.58 | harleypig | Naw ... CounterStrike. |
| 14:38.14 | harleypig | I downloaded the BioShock demo ... interesting. |
| 14:38.56 | Jayce^ | harleypig, you ever see Dead or Alive beach volleyball? |
| 14:39.21 | harleypig | I haven't. Is that the one everyone was making fun of because of the bouncy physics? |
| 14:42.32 | goozbach | harleypig: one and the same |
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| 15:13.18 | ^Migs^ | poor girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZABeQ5vkpXM |
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| 15:33.15 | findlay-w | where's brac? |
| 15:33.19 | findlay-w | ~seen brac? |
| 15:33.23 | ibot | brac <i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 31d 14h 20m 36s ago, saying: 'findlay is bothered because even with pf you place an order, it would be an OBSD guy?'. |
| 15:33.46 | findlay-w | I guess he was preturbed for too long by being just bot #2 or something |
| 15:55.46 | levi | Heh, Roger Ebert gives September Dawn /zero/ stars. |
| 15:58.03 | ^Migs^ | why? |
| 15:58.11 | findlay-w | because |
| 15:59.40 | ^Migs^ | okay then |
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| 16:09.13 | Shadowwire | Good morning all. |
| 16:13.20 | klys | 'mornin' |
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| 16:17.56 | klys | hey hans |
| 16:20.37 | elg | hidyho |
| 16:20.52 | klys | are you coding |
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| 16:29.42 | klys | hil |
| 16:32.11 | findlay-w | ~hi klys |
| 16:32.11 | ibot | Many greetings, klys, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 16:37.19 | klys | findlay: are you up to anything this morning? |
| 16:37.25 | findlay-w | just work |
| 16:37.32 | findlay-w | ~date |
| 16:37.33 | ibot | It is now 2007.08.27 16:37:33 GMT |
| 16:37.51 | klys | do you like your job |
| 16:38.00 | findlay-w | yeah |
| 16:38.05 | klys | easy job? |
| 16:38.22 | findlay-w | enjoyably engaging |
| 16:38.26 | klys | cool |
| 16:38.44 | findlay-w | I nominate you to have it when I leave :) |
| 16:38.45 | Shadowwire | I have found that the easier a job is the less I like it. |
| 16:40.13 | ^Migs^ | Agreed. |
| 16:40.18 | klys | so, I have a scheduler that I was working on end of last week to finish |
| 16:40.34 | klys | findlay: do you have linux |
| 16:40.57 | ^Migs^ | check out this deal: http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayitem.cfm/98872 |
| 16:40.59 | ^Migs^ | Computer for $90 |
| 16:41.11 | ^Migs^ | just ebay the monitor |
| 16:41.19 | ^Migs^ | or send it back and pay the restock fee |
| 16:42.40 | findlay-w | klys: do you have oxygen? |
| 16:42.54 | klys | yes, of course |
| 16:42.59 | findlay-w | "got Linux?" |
| 16:43.12 | klys | well=installed |
| 16:43.16 | klys | - |
| 16:43.33 | klys | on two boxes, no less |
| 16:43.44 | Shadowwire | I have some Oxygen, but its mixed with lots of nitrogen. |
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| 16:44.03 | findlay-w | nitrogen monoxide? |
| 16:44.15 | klys | only out on the street |
| 16:44.16 | Shadowwire | uh, Sure. |
| 16:44.30 | klys | say yes to NOH |
| 16:44.32 | ^Migs^ | or Oxygen dinitrogen? |
| 16:44.46 | findlay-w | put some of that in your ICE |
| 16:44.52 | findlay-w | for a prize |
| 16:45.32 | ^Migs^ | Isn't monoxide redundant? |
| 16:45.36 | findlay-w | nope |
| 16:45.46 | findlay-w | because in that molecule there's a free radical |
| 16:45.47 | ^Migs^ | wow, I must've purged everything I learned in chemistry |
| 16:45.52 | findlay-w | makes it extremely reactive |
| 16:45.58 | findlay-w | and ... funny |
| 16:45.58 | klys | so I want some runtime debugging |
| 16:46.02 | klys | ever done that |
| 16:46.04 | ^Migs^ | where is Kryptonite on the Periodic Table? |
| 16:46.15 | findlay-w | it's element \pi |
| 16:46.45 | klys | noble gas, next to neon, argon |
| 16:47.06 | klys | 18 |
| 16:47.23 | Shadowwire | that would be krypton, not kryptonite. |
| 16:47.34 | klys | closest I could get |
| 16:47.46 | findlay-w | kryptonite tastes like mint toothpaste |
| 16:48.02 | klys | and is green like krypton glowing? |
| 16:48.02 | Shadowwire | as krypton is an inert gat kryptonite is not possible |
| 16:48.25 | findlay-w | some of the noble gasses will form compounds though |
| 16:48.26 | Shadowwire | Sorry innert gas. |
| 16:48.45 | Shadowwire | Klys: what would the "ite" denote. |
| 16:48.52 | klys | mineral |
| 16:49.00 | klys | as opposed to animal or vegetable |
| 16:50.04 | Shadowwire | I guess you could trap a krypton atom inside a carbon buckyball. |
| 16:50.19 | findlay-w | at which point it will start glowing green |
| 16:50.21 | klys | then it would be bound, but not bond |
| 16:53.16 | findlay-w | Shadowwire: why are you sorry about inert gases? |
| 16:54.16 | klys | I think it was just the s/nn/n/gass/gas/ don't quote me though |
| 16:54.48 | klys | anyway |
| 16:54.49 | findlay-w | ~quote klys |
| 16:54.56 | findlay-w | hm |
| 16:57.13 | ^Migs^ | ~quote migs |
| 16:57.22 | ^Migs^ | looks like I'm non-corporal too |
| 16:57.31 | ^Migs^ | ~quote elg |
| 16:57.39 | ^Migs^ | ELG is worth quite a bit |
| 16:57.43 | klys | sell! sell! |
| 16:57.58 | findlay-w | but klys was at 4:58 AM |
| 16:58.03 | ^Migs^ | going to see if elg appreciates in value |
| 16:58.11 | ^Migs^ | ~quote levi |
| 16:58.11 | thaddeusq | ~quote scox |
| 16:58.38 | ^Migs^ | or see if he continues his usual trend of becoming more and more worthless with each passing day |
| 16:58.48 | ^Migs^ | j/k elg :) |
| 17:02.27 | klys | anybody here do C |
| 17:02.36 | elg | define "do" |
| 17:02.37 | findlay-w | I've seen C before |
| 17:03.09 | klys | like, sigsetmask(), setitimer(), vfork() |
| 17:04.05 | klys | select() |
| 17:04.26 | ^Migs^ | ~quote goog |
| 17:04.49 | ^Migs^ | ~quote rite |
| 17:05.00 | findlay-w | ~quote wrong |
| 17:05.11 | klys | ~quote ORCL |
| 17:14.49 | findlay-w | ~cookie |
| 17:15.06 | klys | that's so populist |
| 17:15.17 | findlay-w | ~populate klys |
| 17:16.15 | klys | I can sort of tell what's wrong with it |
| 17:17.19 | klys | ok, I want an irc email bot again, and last week I heard about /script |
| 17:17.46 | klys | actually, what MTA do you use |
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| 17:18.02 | klys | hey yo |
| 17:18.05 | findlay-w | MOOO-MTA |
| 17:18.33 | klys | are you a tease or have I met yours |
| 17:19.08 | fozzmoo | MOOOO-MTA? |
| 17:19.24 | klys | hmm, and it makes squeaky harddrive noises? |
| 17:20.08 | findlay-w | I expressly evade plain factualism by expressing cleverly wrong-formed cryptic exclamations |
| 17:20.31 | klys | plz, nothing's cryptic to my black hair |
| 17:20.43 | findlay-w | black holes don't have hair |
| 17:21.01 | klys | they also practically don't exist |
| 17:21.10 | klys | at least for our concern |
| 17:21.21 | levi | klys: I do C. |
| 17:22.12 | levi | klys: Have you finaly repented of your evil C++ ways? |
| 17:22.12 | klys | levi: you interested in a partially completed C scheduler? |
| 17:22.12 | fozzmoo | C++ is evil? |
| 17:22.12 | klys | well, I still like C++ |
| 17:22.12 | findlay-w | ~c++ |
| 17:22.12 | levi | klys: A scheduler, as in the OS component? |
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| 17:22.42 | klys | userspace threading |
| 17:22.46 | klys | see, I'm trying to get it to work |
| 17:22.46 | levi | Heh, fun. |
| 17:22.57 | levi | What mechanism are you using? |
| 17:23.14 | harleypig | Isn't beandog the resident gentoo guru? |
| 17:23.22 | findlay-w | basically |
| 17:23.35 | klys | www.zendurl.com/klys/sched.c |
| 17:23.49 | klys | has lots of printf/fflush for debugging |
| 17:23.50 | harleypig | That's what I thought. Thanks. |
| 17:24.32 | klys | right now I'm slightly concerned with the pause() in main, whether it should be fixed up to go before setjmp() |
| 17:25.02 | klys | because that's what's keeping the timer from happening |
| 17:25.26 | klys | of course, simple fixes produce SIGSEGV sometimes |
| 17:25.49 | levi | Ahh, using SIGALRM. |
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| 17:28.47 | tensai | ~quote BRKA |
| 17:30.59 | klys | so I put pause() before setjmp() again and comment out the other if(...) pause() and the timer runs, but no scheduling happens (see: debug output) |
| 17:31.21 | klys | SIGIO happens though |
| 17:35.51 | elg | anyone play bogofilter (or some other simple cli-trainable thing) with training by putting the message in a certain IMAP folder? |
| 17:36.12 | elg | i'm thinking, i move the spam to the spam folder (e.g. with thunderbird's junk mail button) |
| 17:36.28 | elg | then a cron job comes around and reaps new spams |
| 17:38.20 | klys | elg: what version of thunderbird do you have? |
| 17:39.00 | klys | I'm looking for a version that supports IMAP subfolders |
| 17:39.39 | elg | klys: thunderbird supports that just fine |
| 17:39.45 | elg | *if* your imap server does |
| 17:39.55 | klys | well, mine should. courier-imap |
| 17:40.25 | klys | anyway I think it's the client, not sure |
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| 17:48.37 | fozzmoo | klys: dovecot supports MAILDIR |
| 17:48.46 | fozzmoo | (which supports sub-folders) |
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| 17:49.10 | ^Migs^ | dumb high school kids who are apparently smarter than me found more security exploits in my portal |
| 17:50.12 | levi | Heh. |
| 17:50.30 | ^Migs^ | at least they reported them |
| 17:50.49 | klys | levi: had enough? |
| 17:51.26 | ^Migs^ | It's not entirely my fault. I pass studentIds through the URL, right? Student IDs are public information. Problem is the district also uses it for passwords and crap, by default |
| 17:51.44 | ^Migs^ | maybe I shouldn't have said that publically, but it's a really dumb situation we have. |
| 17:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 17:52.06 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it's pretty much assumed |
| 17:52.41 | ^Migs^ | Nonetheless, it still makes me look bad, when students can deduce a username and password from public info, and log into my portal |
| 17:53.15 | ^Migs^ | We never really took the stance that we had to encrypt the IDs in the URL |
| 17:53.44 | klys | does your portal use something like blackboard, or webct |
| 17:54.36 | ^Migs^ | no, it's our own design |
| 17:54.53 | ^Migs^ | My own design. I'm pretty much the only developer. |
| 17:54.54 | klys | use ajax or dom at all |
| 17:55.02 | ^Migs^ | some ajax |
| 17:55.19 | klys | php5 |
| 17:55.25 | ^Migs^ | J2EE |
| 17:55.30 | klys | hmm |
| 17:55.30 | ^Migs^ | WebLogic |
| 17:56.19 | ^Migs^ | We're going to migrate to JBoss, and much of it will probably be built from the ground-up, based on the source code, with new and improved ajaxity |
| 17:56.41 | ^Migs^ | I can't stand WebLogic |
| 17:56.45 | klys | does your ajax collect input timestamps |
| 17:56.48 | ^Migs^ | the app itself isn't so bad, except when it craps out |
| 17:56.53 | ^Migs^ | No. |
| 17:57.07 | ^Migs^ | I only use ajax in a couple places, to make it easier to toggle options on and off |
| 17:57.10 | klys | then you have nothing collaborative |
| 17:57.12 | ^Migs^ | I don't believe in using ajax where it doesn't need to be used |
| 17:57.31 | ^Migs^ | I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 17:57.43 | klys | like, `virtual classroom' |
| 17:57.48 | ^Migs^ | It's a portal, not a virtual classroom |
| 17:57.57 | ^Migs^ | We're setting up something else for that |
| 17:58.05 | ^Migs^ | when did I ever say "virtual classroom?" |
| 17:58.13 | klys | who's we. bunch of java programmers |
| 17:58.19 | ^Migs^ | no, I'm the only java programmer |
| 17:58.25 | klys | k |
| 17:58.25 | ^Migs^ | but we also have our database guy who manages our AS400 |
| 17:58.53 | ^Migs^ | and then some other guys who don't really do anything. One's the PR guy who goes around to schools and takes credit for all my work, then another db guy who manages a different unrelated db, but helps me with queries sometimes |
| 17:59.33 | ^Migs^ | we tried hiring another Java developer a year ago, but he didn't work out, so now he's the PR guy |
| 17:59.43 | ^Migs^ | mainly because he doesn't know a thing about programming |
| 18:00.00 | ^Migs^ | why he was hired, I have no clue |
| 18:00.06 | ^Migs^ | what other project? |
| 18:00.22 | klys | < ^Migs^> We're setting up something else for that |
| 18:00.27 | ^Migs^ | oh, we're just using Moodle |
| 18:00.28 | ^Migs^ | Nothing spectacular |
| 18:00.37 | ^Migs^ | then tying it into the portal |
| 18:00.46 | ^Migs^ | right now it's separate |
| 18:00.56 | klys | so, it's really bad then |
| 18:01.02 | ^Migs^ | Not at all |
| 18:01.13 | klys | webct is really bad I wouldn't be surpriesd |
| 18:01.28 | ^Migs^ | Yes, it is. Which is why we're using Moodle, which isn't bad |
| 18:01.51 | ^Migs^ | and open source, so anything "bad" can easily be fixed |
| 18:02.03 | klys | hmm, by what kind of programmer |
| 18:02.07 | ^Migs^ | me |
| 18:02.15 | ^Migs^ | I have madd l33t skillz |
| 18:02.15 | klys | haha, use javascript |
| 18:02.38 | klys | do a page reload operation or something |
| 18:02.45 | ^Migs^ | brilliant! |
| 18:03.17 | ^Migs^ | I wanted to originally build my own virtual classroom software, but the upper management decision was "why reinvent the wheel?" |
| 18:03.26 | ^Migs^ | I tend to agree, but there are some things in which Moodle is lacking |
| 18:03.37 | ^Migs^ | biggest thing for us is that it doesn't let you associate a course resource with multiple courses |
| 18:03.45 | klys | virtualclassroom software doesn't exist yet and it's this attitude that needs to be taken out and shot |
| 18:03.49 | ^Migs^ | I built a little course management app in our portal, which does, but meh |
| 18:04.03 | ^Migs^ | what attitude? |
| 18:04.13 | klys | decision was "why reinvent the wheel?" |
| 18:04.21 | ^Migs^ | we don't have unlimited funds |
| 18:04.27 | ^Migs^ | we're a school district |
| 18:04.32 | klys | well, you have a lot of resources |
| 18:04.40 | fozzmoo | you've been TOLD you don't have unlimited funds. :) |
| 18:04.43 | ^Migs^ | Yes we do, but I'm the only web developer in the entire districvt |
| 18:05.01 | ^Migs^ | Moodle allows XML-RPC calls |
| 18:05.07 | klys | ok |
| 18:05.08 | ^Migs^ | so I could build some sort of front-end to it, perhaps |
| 18:05.20 | ^Migs^ | although then I think, why do that when I can just build a whole new app? |
| 18:05.28 | klys | have a look at hnb.sf.net |
| 18:05.31 | ^Migs^ | with RPC I'd be dealing with limitations |
| 18:05.34 | klys | XML editor |
| 18:05.37 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 18:06.01 | ^Migs^ | cool |
| 18:16.45 | klys | levi: www.zendurl.com/klys/sched.c new edit, I now can't tell why SIGALRM isn't happening |
| 18:28.08 | klys | levi: ok, I found a stray pause() and am back to segfault |
| 18:28.31 | elg | is there a prog that will take an mbox (or maildir) on stdin, apply a filter, and spit out an mbox on stdout? |
| 18:28.44 | elg | a filter like, only messages older than or newer than a certain day |
| 18:28.53 | elg | or messages from ^Migs^ |
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| 18:30.23 | klys | oo, got SIGILL |
| 18:31.42 | Shadowwire | Is that like gonaciphiherpacrabinaids? |
| 18:31.54 | klys | it's from `info libc' |
| 18:32.13 | Shadowwire | oh. |
| 18:32.25 | Shadowwire | my bad. |
| 18:32.31 | klys | think you wanted to do that once |
| 18:32.38 | klys | must have been busy with work |
| 18:32.40 | Shadowwire | what? |
| 18:32.53 | klys | to install gcc and see what it does |
| 18:33.06 | Shadowwire | what does it do? |
| 18:33.17 | klys | did you get the file I linked earlier |
| 18:33.24 | Shadowwire | no |
| 18:33.31 | klys | do you have gcc anyway |
| 18:33.38 | Shadowwire | are you talking to me? |
| 18:33.44 | klys | yeah! |
| 18:34.01 | Shadowwire | I dont have gcc |
| 18:34.18 | klys | hmm, lost all track of fedora I guess |
| 18:34.27 | klys | or, mandriva |
| 18:34.29 | Shadowwire | I've been buisy |
| 18:34.48 | Shadowwire | I might have a minute now however. |
| 18:34.57 | klys | type `gcc -v' |
| 18:35.15 | Shadowwire | let me load up my vm |
| 18:35.55 | Shadowwire | " |
| 18:37.37 | Shadowwire | ok, gcc -v. got it. |
| 18:38.03 | klys | ok, now type `info libc' |
| 18:38.28 | Shadowwire | ok |
| 18:38.45 | klys | look up, "formatted output basics" |
| 18:41.53 | klys | http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/index.html |
| 18:41.59 | Shadowwire | umm. |
| 18:42.30 | Shadowwire | ok |
| 18:42.53 | klys | so you know a little about printf() format specifiers now |
| 18:43.09 | Shadowwire | not realy, no. |
| 18:43.20 | klys | didn't find it mentioned? |
| 18:43.34 | Shadowwire | all i know is.The printf function can be used to print any number of arguments. The template string argument you supply in a call provides information not only about the number of additional arguments, but also about their types and what style should be used for printing them. |
| 18:44.23 | Shadowwire | also, Ordinary characters in the template string are simply written to the output stream as-is, while conversion specifications introduced by a `%' character in the template cause subsequent arguments to be formatted and written to the output stream. For example, |
| 18:44.23 | Shadowwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.23 | Shadowwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.23 | Shadowwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.24 | Shadowwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.26 | Shadowwire | produces output like |
| 18:44.28 | Shadowwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.30 | Shadowwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.36 | klys | hey |
| 18:44.58 | Shadowwire | Just telling you what im trying to learn. |
| 18:45.01 | klys | ok |
| 18:45.45 | klys | the specifier is the %s in this example. it's different for numbers |
| 18:46.07 | Shadowwire | How so? |
| 18:46.23 | klys | if I want to output a 4-digit 32-bit integer (or pointer) value, I might use %04X (capital hex) |
| 18:46.31 | klys | well, 16-bit |
| 18:46.39 | klys | %08X |
| 18:46.48 | Shadowwire | oh like, integer argument as an unsigned value in octal, decimal, or hexadecimal radix (`%o', `%u', or `%x', respectively)? |
| 18:47.00 | klys | right |
| 18:47.05 | Shadowwire | i see. |
| 18:47.27 | klys | do you want graphics now or later |
| 18:47.36 | Shadowwire | later |
| 18:48.03 | klys | I agreed, and have been happier with a CLI ever since |
| 18:48.18 | Shadowwire | ? huh? |
| 18:48.26 | klys | commandline interface |
| 18:48.40 | Shadowwire | oh. |
| 18:49.16 | klys | so, my most recent program just prints out a bunch of debugging garbage for now... |
| 18:49.33 | Shadowwire | that sucks. |
| 18:49.35 | klys | do you see anything in there that looks cool |
| 18:49.45 | Shadowwire | in... |
| 18:49.55 | Shadowwire | Formatted output basics? |
| 18:49.55 | klys | www.zendurl.com/klys/sched.c |
| 18:50.04 | klys | or in the manual topics |
| 18:50.11 | klys | table of contents |
| 18:50.34 | Shadowwire | basics are good. |
| 18:51.03 | klys | look at fopen() and fclose() |
| 18:51.04 | Shadowwire | hey, Im gonna run to lunch. |
| 18:51.12 | klys | k when you comin' back |
| 18:51.17 | klys | ? |
| 18:51.19 | Shadowwire | Bout an hour |
| 18:51.26 | Shadowwire | 2:00 |
| 18:51.27 | klys | ciao |
| 18:51.29 | Shadowwire | k? |
| 18:51.33 | klys | k man! |
| 18:51.36 | Shadowwire | ciao |
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| 19:04.59 | klys | hil |
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| 19:38.32 | levi | klys: Sorry, don't have time to look through your code now. |
| 19:38.47 | klys | levi: k thx for your interest! |
| 19:39.06 | klys | did you have breakfast this morning |
| 19:39.56 | klys | even missed a TV show |
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| 19:58.09 | klys | elg: you were right about the whole IMAP server capability thing |
| 20:00.37 | klys | ding |
| 20:01.24 | jsmith | I don't know that elg has ever been wrong :-) |
| 20:01.39 | klys | well it was quite an upgrade for me |
| 20:03.21 | klys | ~xcode |
| 20:03.22 | ibot | Virtual Machine and Application Extension System w/ Optimized Network Streaming. URL: http://home.devlocus.org/psion/xcode/ Apple's new integrated development environment (IDE) for Mac OS X. URL: http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/ |
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| 20:12.33 | elg | jsmith: I'd be happy to arrange to be wrong once, for your sake |
| 20:13.02 | Jayce^ | poor poor mheath... |
| 20:13.09 | jsmith | elg: This I gotta see... |
| 20:13.11 | Jayce^ | he went to the big paintball game this weekend.. |
| 20:13.17 | Jayce^ | and left early.. |
| 20:13.24 | Jayce^ | they pulled his name for the raffle at the end |
| 20:13.29 | goozbach | ohh |
| 20:13.33 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 20:13.35 | Jayce^ | would have won an 8-9800 dollar gun :) |
| 20:13.41 | Jayce^ | goozbach, Etek ego |
| 20:13.46 | goozbach | ouch! |
| 20:13.59 | goozbach | who ended up winning it? |
| 20:14.09 | Jayce^ | dunno.. someone else.. |
| 20:14.19 | Jayce^ | when they called his name though, I just started laughing.. |
| 20:14.26 | Jayce^ | serious suckage |
| 20:14.34 | goozbach | if I was in utah.... |
| 20:15.32 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 20:17.12 | mrpull | Jayce^: are there pictures? |
| 20:17.35 | mrpull | what is an 8-9800 dollar gun? |
| 20:17.50 | Jayce^ | whenever paradox uploades them |
| 20:17.57 | Jayce^ | :) $800 - $900 |
| 20:17.58 | mrpull | something between $8 and $9800 |
| 20:18.04 | mrpull | ahhh... poor sucker |
| 20:18.11 | mrpull | who's fault is that going to be |
| 20:18.13 | mrpull | surely not his |
| 20:18.18 | mrpull | where is that guy lately |
| 20:18.21 | mrpull | kickbanned? |
| 20:18.25 | mrpull | i miss him |
| 20:18.41 | Jayce^ | yeah, he hangs out on other channels here.. |
| 20:19.01 | goozbach | so why did he get banned? |
| 20:19.21 | Jayce^ | from this channel, too many people telling me they weren't going to be here anymore if he was :/ |
| 20:19.35 | goozbach | fair enough |
| 20:21.24 | mrpull | how did all of that military training translate into paintball skills? |
| 20:21.38 | Jayce^ | didn't see him play.. |
| 20:26.44 | brandon | anyone seen Clint lately? |
| 20:34.08 | Jayce^ | this morning.. |
| 20:35.25 | fozzmoo | brandon: Yeah, I've seen him. He's not that pleasant to look at. ;-) |
| 20:52.53 | *** join/#utah fungus (n=olsonl@216.112.118.2) |
| 20:53.33 | Shadowwire | klys: ping |
| 21:01.39 | klys | oh |
| 21:01.45 | klys | yes I'm here |
| 21:04.50 | klys | shadowwire: ping |
| 21:05.34 | klys | did this saturday with my bro. all day... |
| 21:06.02 | klys | anyway right now I'm looking at some job description |
| 21:08.39 | Shadowwire | Sup? |
| 21:09.07 | phikzd | that's descriptive :P |
| 21:09.35 | klys | well... |
| 21:10.13 | klys | we were looking over the manual |
| 21:10.26 | Shadowwire | Sorry I am so late. |
| 21:10.35 | klys | it's fine I know you're busy |
| 21:10.56 | Shadowwire | So, What did you do with your bro on sat. |
| 21:11.05 | klys | nothing important |
| 21:11.16 | klys | he ended up going to the simpsons |
| 21:11.23 | Shadowwire | the movie? |
| 21:11.26 | klys | right |
| 21:11.35 | Shadowwire | Have you seen it? |
| 21:11.43 | klys | no, I can't afford movies |
| 21:11.48 | Shadowwire | I see. |
| 21:12.02 | Shadowwire | What jobs are you looking at? |
| 21:12.09 | klys | right now or this week? |
| 21:12.24 | Shadowwire | All of the afforementioned |
| 21:12.26 | klys | ...this month I'm mostly looking into sales |
| 21:12.34 | Shadowwire | sales. |
| 21:12.41 | klys | this week I started applying at food places |
| 21:12.46 | Shadowwire | food. |
| 21:12.47 | klys | since I'm so desparate |
| 21:12.54 | Shadowwire | desparate. |
| 21:13.02 | Shadowwire | oh, I mean... |
| 21:13.05 | klys | and found out in an interview that my last job is giving me a real black eye |
| 21:13.19 | klys | so no one is calling me... |
| 21:13.23 | Shadowwire | What was your last job? |
| 21:13.31 | klys | inkley's camera, floater |
| 21:13.43 | Shadowwire | whats their # |
| 21:15.08 | Jayce^ | klys, heck, we have tech support that's better than doing *food* |
| 21:15.13 | klys | extra busy printing shop, 8018020441 ask for kurt |
| 21:15.16 | Jayce^ | think we still have a QA spot :) |
| 21:15.29 | klys | in provo? |
| 21:15.32 | klys | or orem? |
| 21:16.31 | phikzd | how old are you klys? |
| 21:16.33 | klys | 29 |
| 21:16.42 | phikzd | oh nice, I'm 22 |
| 21:17.58 | Shadowwire | phikzd: where do you work? |
| 21:18.01 | klys | phikzd: you code? |
| 21:18.43 | Shadowwire | Is python a usefull thing to know? |
| 21:18.47 | klys | yes |
| 21:18.58 | klys | make sure your web server supports it |
| 21:19.07 | Jayce^ | orem |
| 21:19.09 | klys | and that you can use DOM and mySQL |
| 21:19.20 | phikzd | I've been sick for over a year with FMS. |
| 21:19.24 | phikzd | I'm not working.. yet. |
| 21:19.26 | phikzd | :P |
| 21:20.05 | phikzd | haha |
| 21:20.06 | klys | anyway |
| 21:20.08 | phikzd | FibroMyalgia |
| 21:20.13 | phikzd | painful painful illness. |
| 21:20.17 | Shadowwire | Fibromyalgia and Chronic Myofascial Pain Syndrome (FMS/MPS) from ...Information and fact sheets about two often coexisting syndromes, Fibromyalgia, and Chronic |
| 21:20.29 | Shadowwire | there you go klys. |
| 21:21.14 | klys | are you looking through the package manager |
| 21:21.22 | Shadowwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.28 | klys | hmm |
| 21:21.33 | Shadowwire | umm, no. |
| 21:21.50 | klys | vitamins, man |
| 21:22.41 | phikzd | vitamins help, but the illness needs to be thoroughly diagnosed to determine which vitamins / herbs / remedies are to be used |
| 21:22.55 | klys | read about vitamins yourself |
| 21:23.07 | klys | you need a thick book to get the truth |
| 21:24.24 | klys | interested in python? |
| 21:24.40 | klys | I was going to recommend perl, but, python is more elegant |
| 21:24.42 | Shadowwire | who me? |
| 21:24.45 | phikzd | www.fibrowellness.com |
| 21:24.48 | klys | yeah |
| 21:25.05 | phikzd | he's helping me. The doctor is having me conduct tests so that he can give me the right nutrition I need. |
| 21:25.05 | Shadowwire | Yes, im interested in python. |
| 21:25.46 | klys | phikzd: if he says anything about nerves, be sure to get the best-matched B complex |
| 21:26.02 | klys | so, do you have apache running? |
| 21:26.13 | phikzd | He's a doctor; he also has fibromyalgia. I'm sure he'll tell me to. :) |
| 21:26.28 | Shadowwire | So the only programing i know is basic and a little vis-b. So what should I learn first? |
| 21:26.29 | *** join/#utah thaddeusq (n=thaddeus@216.49.181.128) |
| 21:26.44 | klys | C, because of all the available libraries |
| 21:26.54 | klys | or bash, if you like commandline control |
| 21:27.15 | klys | type `help |
| 21:27.16 | klys | ' |
| 21:27.20 | Shadowwire | Whats the best way to learn c? |
| 21:27.35 | klys | hmm, look at amazon.com or ask in ##c |
| 21:28.03 | klys | find an ansi reference |
| 21:28.09 | Shadowwire | I bought borland c++ years ago, however the manuals that came with it were not disighned for learning. |
| 21:28.23 | klys | C99 has been a popular topic |
| 21:28.39 | klys | so with that, look for the C99 base document |
| 21:28.41 | Shadowwire | C99. Why? |
| 21:28.53 | klys | well, gcc.info goes over the standards |
| 21:29.10 | klys | should be able to find it with google |
| 21:29.14 | klys | or at gnu.org |
| 21:30.22 | levi | OK, any Fedora experts here? |
| 21:30.27 | jsmith | Shadowwire: The best way I know of is to go take a college C class |
| 21:30.28 | klys | another good one is "The Annotated C++ Reference Manual", just try not to tell those guys I said so |
| 21:30.31 | jsmith | levi: What's the question? |
| 21:30.40 | jsmith | levi: I'm fairly well versed in Fedora |
| 21:30.42 | levi | I've got a FC5 box with an LVM root drive and we want FC7 on it. |
| 21:30.51 | klys | don't take the class, just read ahead and do the programs. you already have a job. |
| 21:30.59 | levi | Is there an easy upgrade path, or do I need to back up home directories and install from scratch? |
| 21:31.28 | levi | The FC7 installer doesn't want to read the LVM partitions, so it doesn't recognize that there's a FC5 install to upgrade. |
| 21:31.37 | Shadowwire | Im not going back to school any time soon. Perhaps when I retire. |
| 21:31.41 | jsmith | levi: Oh, that's strange. |
| 21:31.47 | jsmith | levi: Some weird type of IDE controller? |
| 21:32.01 | jsmith | levi: In that case, I'd say backup and install from scratch |
| 21:32.04 | levi | I dunno. I can mount the LVM partitions just fine from the command line. |
| 21:32.10 | jsmith | Very strange. |
| 21:32.18 | jsmith | Try asking in #fedora I guess... |
| 21:32.24 | jsmith | Hold on, let me ask a friend |
| 21:33.18 | klys | you need 3 things for C: a style guide, a reference to check up occasionally, and the libc.info thing |
| 21:33.53 | klys | the biggest style issue is indentation. it drives people crazy |
| 21:34.01 | klys | or makes them very upset |
| 21:38.56 | Shadowwire | klys: how do i get out of this libc thing. |
| 21:39.04 | goozbach | levi: don't try to jump more than one version at a time |
| 21:39.14 | goozbach | fc5 -> fedora 7 is a BIG jump |
| 21:39.24 | Shadowwire | Dam* hickups |
| 21:39.35 | goozbach | if you WANT to upgrade do fc5 -> fc6 -> fedora 7 |
| 21:43.02 | klys | hit l or q |
| 21:43.45 | klys | use screen |
| 21:45.17 | tensai | ~nuke incredimail |
| 21:45.17 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at incredimail ... B☢☢M! |
| 21:47.32 | *** join/#utah nick125_treo (n=upirc@m280e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 21:51.04 | goozbach | ~travolta tensai |
| 21:51.05 | ibot | ACTION replaces tensai with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 21:51.17 | levi | goozbach: Thanks, looks like we'll be going that route. |
| 22:05.11 | Shadowwire | Hey klys |
| 22:05.19 | Shadowwire | ~ping klys |
| 22:05.20 | ibot | pong klys |
| 22:05.23 | klys | yo |
| 22:05.26 | klys | yo yo yo |
| 22:05.37 | Shadowwire | hey, how do I get out of this menu? |
| 22:05.42 | klys | hit l or q |
| 22:05.55 | Shadowwire | q it is! |
| 22:06.10 | klys | after hitting q, hit ctrl-l or type clera |
| 22:06.12 | klys | clear |
| 22:06.29 | Shadowwire | whos clera? |
| 22:06.39 | klys | she's my maid |
| 22:06.39 | Shadowwire | jk |
| 22:06.50 | Shadowwire | A maid? sweet! |
| 22:06.59 | klys | anyway type screen, then hist C-a C-d to get out |
| 22:07.08 | Shadowwire | ok, how do I run the c compiler? |
| 22:07.16 | klys | let me show you how to do this |
| 22:07.23 | Shadowwire | o. k. |
| 22:07.39 | Shadowwire | do you want to VNC to my box? |
| 22:09.27 | Shadowwire | I could send you the VPN client. |
| 22:10.04 | Shadowwire | ~ping Klys |
| 22:10.05 | ibot | pong Klys |
| 22:12.47 | *** join/#utah klys_ (n=daniel@72.8.101.65) |
| 22:13.13 | klys_ | 16:07 < Shadowwire> ok, how do I run the c compiler? |
| 22:13.16 | klys_ | 16:07 < klys> let me show you how to do this |
| 22:13.18 | klys_ | 16:07 < klys> then type screen -r to get back in, you get out the same way |
| 22:13.21 | klys_ | 16:08 < klys> open up another terminal, and type screen -xr to share the open |
| 22:13.23 | klys_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.26 | klys_ | 16:08 < klys> did you do it? |
| 22:13.28 | klys_ | 16:09 < klys> ok, you can run the C compiler with a makefile or with gcc -o |
| 22:13.31 | klys_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.33 | klys_ | 16:10 < klys> s/hist/hit/ |
| 22:13.36 | klys_ | 16:10 < klys> ...could keep you wondering |
| 22:13.38 | klys_ | 16:10 < klys> the C- is ctrl, too |
| 22:13.41 | klys_ | 16:11 < klys> if you type screen within screen, type C-a a C-d then C-a C-d to |
| 22:13.43 | klys_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.46 | klys_ | 16:11 [ctcp(#utah)] PING 1188252704 449201 |
| 22:13.51 | klys_ | hehe I pasted `o' |
| 22:14.38 | Shadowwire | Ok, wht just happened? |
| 22:14.54 | klys_ | my service went out for a moment |
| 22:15.17 | Shadowwire | Ok, lets start over |
| 22:15.19 | klys_ | I started lagging and then my client reconnected |
| 22:15.23 | klys_ | k |
| 22:15.41 | Shadowwire | so, I type cc? |
| 22:15.44 | klys_ | gcc |
| 22:15.50 | klys_ | or cc if it works |
| 22:15.51 | Shadowwire | no input files. |
| 22:15.59 | klys_ | gcc -o file file.c |
| 22:16.07 | klys_ | did you do the screen thing yet? |
| 22:16.50 | Shadowwire | no, It tells me no such file or directroy |
| 22:17.00 | klys_ | oh, maybe yum install screen |
| 22:17.07 | Shadowwire | hu? |
| 22:17.20 | klys_ | type: yum install screen |
| 22:17.38 | klys_ | unless you have no network |
| 22:17.54 | Shadowwire | how do I get to Root? |
| 22:18.00 | klys_ | su or sudo |
| 22:18.03 | klys_ | sudo -i |
| 22:18.27 | klys_ | should change your $ to # |
| 22:18.29 | Shadowwire | ops, |
| 22:18.44 | Shadowwire | I accidentaly started the Yum upgrade. |
| 22:18.54 | klys_ | hit ctrl-c |
| 22:19.00 | klys_ | it's still downloading anyway |
| 22:19.05 | Shadowwire | I pressed the up arrow... Oh its done. |
| 22:19.09 | Shadowwire | ok |
| 22:20.18 | Shadowwire | Ok, downloading packages. |
| 22:20.30 | klys_ | for the screen or the upgrade |
| 22:20.40 | Shadowwire | ETA: 5 4 3 2 1. Done! |
| 22:20.55 | Shadowwire | ? |
| 22:21.01 | klys_ | ok you're ok |
| 22:21.03 | Shadowwire | but its done. |
| 22:21.12 | Shadowwire | Im ok your ok? |
| 22:21.16 | klys_ | see above, I asked you to do the screen thing |
| 22:21.20 | Shadowwire | I did |
| 22:21.26 | klys_ | does it work now |
| 22:21.34 | Shadowwire | Which one? |
| 22:21.43 | klys_ | like, screen -r |
| 22:21.45 | Shadowwire | "yum install screen"? |
| 22:21.51 | klys_ | you did that? |
| 22:21.52 | Shadowwire | oh. |
| 22:22.33 | Shadowwire | screen -r : there is no screen to be resumed. |
| 22:22.40 | klys_ | right, further up |
| 22:23.06 | klys_ | 16:06 < klys> anyway type screen, then hist C-a C-d to get out |
| 22:23.18 | klys_ | s/hist/hit/ |
| 22:23.25 | klys_ | better |
| 22:24.11 | Shadowwire | im not sure I understand. |
| 22:24.26 | klys | ok, got screen in there |
| 22:24.31 | Shadowwire | yes |
| 22:24.37 | klys | done? |
| 22:24.56 | Shadowwire | when i typed "screen" I got a fresh screen. |
| 22:25.00 | klys | ok |
| 22:25.17 | Shadowwire | now what? |
| 22:25.18 | klys | now ge out of it and come back to it |
| 22:25.24 | klys | s/ge/get/ |
| 22:25.31 | Shadowwire | using ctrl a? |
| 22:25.56 | klys | yeah, or if you're in layers of screens, C-a a a a a a ..... |
| 22:26.10 | Shadowwire | what the crap? |
| 22:26.25 | klys | that's just if you accidentally type screen 6 times |
| 22:27.25 | Shadowwire | if I hit "ctrl a" twice it switches between screens. |
| 22:27.40 | klys | I know, C-a C-a is |
| 22:27.52 | klys | C-a a delivers the control screen |
| 22:27.58 | klys | control signal |
| 22:28.00 | Shadowwire | Now i see what you were trying to tell me. |
| 22:28.09 | klys | there wasn't a control screen |
| 22:28.29 | Shadowwire | a what? |
| 22:28.35 | klys | typo |
| 22:29.10 | klys | anyway, now you can edit, ls, irssi chat, and read info, from the same window. cool? |
| 22:29.24 | Shadowwire | how? |
| 22:29.39 | klys | reattach with -r or -xr for the second reattach |
| 22:29.41 | Shadowwire | oh by switching? |
| 22:29.59 | Shadowwire | huh? |
| 22:30.06 | klys | are you detached |
| 22:30.21 | klys | type screen -r |
| 22:30.25 | Shadowwire | I dont know what you mean. |
| 22:30.38 | klys | C-a C-d gets out / detaches |
| 22:31.00 | Shadowwire | Ok starting over, because I accidentaly closed terminal. |
| 22:31.17 | klys | you know, it won't matter. screen -r |
| 22:31.23 | Shadowwire | ls |
| 22:31.25 | klys | even though you closed the terminal |
| 22:31.38 | klys | ~ls |
| 22:31.38 | ibot | bash: ls: permission denied |
| 22:32.07 | klys | ~bork himself |
| 22:32.08 | ibot | ACTION borks himself |
| 22:32.12 | Shadowwire | When I hit c-a c-d it closed. |
| 22:32.24 | klys | oh, you were detached then |
| 22:32.29 | klys | C-d closes a shell |
| 22:32.35 | klys | it's EOF |
| 22:32.36 | Shadowwire | oh. |
| 22:32.52 | Shadowwire | Im back in. |
| 22:33.01 | Shadowwire | how do I get to the c compiler? |
| 22:33.05 | Shadowwire | gcc |
| 22:33.18 | klys | now, get out and start another one, and with the compiler it's gcc -o file file.c |
| 22:34.04 | klys | and when you're out of the next one, screen -r and tell me the numbers |
| 22:34.23 | Shadowwire | ok so "gcc" is the compiler. "-o" is? and the "file" simply denotes the file and the "file.c" is the file? |
| 22:34.34 | klys | right |
| 22:34.42 | Shadowwire | ? |
| 22:34.46 | klys | screen |
| 22:34.47 | Shadowwire | on the -o |
| 22:35.45 | klys | or, gcc -o file.elf file.c; or, gcc -c -o file.o file.c; gcc -o file.elf file.o |
| 22:36.52 | klys | the -o is an option from gcc -h |
| 22:37.08 | klys | defaults to a.out |
| 22:37.19 | Shadowwire | there is a screen on: 6341.pts-1.West (attached) There is no screen to be resumed. |
| 22:37.41 | klys | detach, type screen, detach, screen -r, get two numbers |
| 22:37.56 | klys | do it again for one or two more if it looks interesting |
| 22:37.58 | Shadowwire | detach using c-a c-d? |
| 22:38.01 | klys | yes |
| 22:38.24 | klys | now open another xterm |
| 22:38.56 | Shadowwire | how |
| 22:39.02 | klys | the icon |
| 22:39.16 | Shadowwire | Ok |
| 22:39.22 | klys | screen -r |
| 22:39.23 | Shadowwire | screen -r |
| 22:39.31 | Shadowwire | whops? sorry |
| 22:39.55 | Shadowwire | "there are several sitable screens on: |
| 22:40.16 | klys | cool, now keep at least two detached for convenience |
| 22:40.26 | Shadowwire | Ok. |
| 22:40.33 | Shadowwire | now what? |
| 22:41.03 | klys | now screen -xr an attached screen from the other xterm |
| 22:41.28 | Shadowwire | so, type "screen -xr" ? |
| 22:41.38 | klys | if one shows up as attached |
| 22:41.51 | Shadowwire | it shows two (detached) |
| 22:41.57 | klys | the number should follow in that case |
| 22:42.03 | Shadowwire | yes |
| 22:42.08 | klys | screen -xr attachednum |
| 22:42.19 | Shadowwire | ok |
| 22:42.22 | klys | if only two are available, screen, C-a C-d |
| 22:43.32 | Shadowwire | I think Im starting to get the hang of this. |
| 22:43.43 | klys | can you see yourself typing yet |
| 22:44.30 | klys | <g> |
| 22:44.34 | Shadowwire | hu? |
| 22:44.44 | klys | from the other xterm you have open |
| 22:44.58 | *** part/#utah ^Migs^ (n=Migs@205.122.50.233) |
| 22:45.41 | klys | you might make a mistake with screen -xr if so jus detach it's OK |
| 22:45.57 | Shadowwire | Now i can! |
| 22:46.07 | Shadowwire | Neat. |
| 22:46.13 | klys | ;) |
| 22:46.49 | Shadowwire | how do I turn off a screen without entering it. |
| 22:46.51 | klys | now -x doesn't change the window size, so the first one has control of it |
| 22:47.07 | klys | ...not sure, you might need kill |
| 22:47.11 | Shadowwire | ? |
| 22:47.13 | klys | ps aux |
| 22:47.38 | klys | just leave them open |
| 22:47.56 | klys | if it's embedded, C-a a C-d |
| 22:48.21 | klys | that's if you've entered screen from screen, I've been warning you about it |
| 22:48.34 | klys | anyway, do you have file.c |
| 22:49.08 | Shadowwire | How do I find out? |
| 22:49.28 | klys | like #include <stdio.h> int main( int argc, char** argv ) { printf( "sisboombah\n" ); return 0; } |
| 22:49.42 | klys | separating the line after > |
| 22:49.55 | klys | and save it as file.c |
| 22:50.03 | Shadowwire | dang. you trying to confuse me? |
| 22:50.21 | klys | take it slow |
| 22:51.36 | klys | you can type emacs -nw; within an empty screen |
| 22:52.17 | Shadowwire | bash: emacs: not found |
| 22:52.30 | klys | hmm, yum search emacs21 |
| 22:52.50 | klys | I like DOS emacs because of the colors, but emacs should be installed |
| 22:53.07 | Shadowwire | no matches found |
| 22:53.11 | klys | hmm, yum search emacs20 |
| 22:53.13 | klys | hmm, yum search emacs |
| 22:53.51 | Shadowwire | yum search emacs did something. |
| 22:54.03 | klys | is there a plain vanilla package |
| 22:54.12 | Shadowwire | what? |
| 22:54.23 | klys | in your estimation of the results |
| 22:54.38 | Shadowwire | yes |
| 22:54.49 | klys | get that and tell me what it is |
| 22:56.38 | Shadowwire | this package contains the source elisp files for AUCTeX for Emacs. |
| 22:56.47 | klys | not that one |
| 22:56.55 | klys | you want `this is emacs' |
| 22:56.56 | Shadowwire | ok? then what? |
| 22:57.51 | klys | short name, should start with e |
| 22:57.53 | klys | not xe |
| 22:58.32 | Shadowwire | is there like a "/p" command so I can read everything that flys by? |
| 22:58.34 | klys | you know about `| less' ? |
| 22:58.43 | Shadowwire | the wha? |
| 22:58.52 | klys | it's what you're asking 4 |
| 22:59.44 | Shadowwire | cool |
| 22:59.55 | klys | you can search with / or quit with q |
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| 23:01.00 | klys | hil |
| 23:01.59 | Shadowwire | sorry. there are tons of these dang files. |
| 23:02.17 | klys | use pgup/pgdn |
| 23:02.31 | Shadowwire | nice. |
| 23:02.58 | Shadowwire | how about emacs-el.i386 ? |
| 23:03.15 | klys | that's just elisp support for the real emacs I think |
| 23:03.32 | Shadowwire | what exactly am i looking for? |
| 23:03.51 | klys | unless the description says emacs. |
| 23:03.59 | klys | you want the emacs |
| 23:04.03 | klys | the one |
| 23:04.20 | klys | version 20 or 21 |
| 23:04.26 | Shadowwire | so, simply emacs.i386? |
| 23:04.29 | klys | cool |
| 23:04.40 | klys | run with it |
| 23:04.46 | klys | be sure to read the tutorial |
| 23:05.03 | Shadowwire | how do i end this search |
| 23:05.12 | klys | q |
| 23:05.36 | klys | remember I said -nw |
| 23:05.56 | Shadowwire | Hey , not so fast. I havnt found it yet. |
| 23:06.44 | klys | do you still have a text file from the other day |
| 23:06.53 | klys | the one with a list of stuff to get |
| 23:07.06 | klys | like screen, hnb, moonedit, ... |
| 23:07.23 | klys | maybe you don't remember |
| 23:07.44 | Shadowwire | I dont think I wrote them down |
| 23:08.13 | klys | oh, we were supposed to be saving commands and package names to a text file. emacs could help you do that. |
| 23:08.21 | Shadowwire | how about emacs-vm.i386? |
| 23:08.37 | klys | how is it different from emacs.i386 |
| 23:09.22 | Shadowwire | I havnt found emacs.i386 yet, I was just checking with you to see if thats is what I want. |
| 23:09.42 | klys | try home /emacs-i3 |
| 23:09.52 | klys | then pgdn back if it fails |
| 23:10.10 | klys | home /emacs.i3 |
| 23:10.21 | Shadowwire | nope. |
| 23:10.32 | klys | I might try to help |
| 23:10.42 | Shadowwire | say wha? |
| 23:10.53 | Shadowwire | Do you want to VNC to my box? |
| 23:11.04 | klys | I'm just searching |
| 23:11.21 | klys | you probably don't have a public ip anyway |
| 23:11.42 | Shadowwire | I should send you the VPN client. |
| 23:11.51 | klys | for linux? |
| 23:11.58 | Shadowwire | Oh.. Right. |
| 23:12.00 | klys | I have a vnc client that I use locally |
| 23:12.18 | Shadowwire | We use a cisco client. |
| 23:13.14 | Shadowwire | Sorry man, I gotta run. |
| 23:13.46 | Shadowwire | hey, Klys |
| 23:13.53 | klys | yum install emacs |
| 23:13.56 | klys | ok |
| 23:14.09 | Shadowwire | ok Ill try |
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| 23:14.58 | Shadowwire | whats that dang command to change users again? |
| 23:15.04 | klys | well, I understand if you have a call let me know if you're back or can connect later or want me to call you |
| 23:15.06 | Shadowwire | lu |
| 23:15.06 | nick125_treo- | su? |
| 23:15.11 | klys | sudo -i or su |
| 23:15.12 | Shadowwire | su! thats it. |
| 23:15.25 | nick125_treo- | sudo -u user su works too :p |
| 23:15.34 | nick125_treo- | I think ... |
| 23:16.00 | Shadowwire | hey over here dude. |
| 23:16.05 | klys | what's flat and ini your general direction? |
| 23:16.38 | klys | so did emacs get? |
| 23:16.48 | Shadowwire | Downloading 21 mb |
| 23:16.59 | Shadowwire | ~lart pole |
| 23:16.59 | ibot | executes killall -TERM pole |
| 23:17.11 | klys | he probably runs gvim |
| 23:17.22 | Shadowwire | gcim/ |
| 23:17.28 | Shadowwire | gvim? |
| 23:17.46 | klys | it's for windows notepad alternative linuxfreaks |
| 23:17.56 | Shadowwire | ok |
| 23:18.24 | Shadowwire | eta 1:30 |
| 23:18.49 | Shadowwire | * shadowwire uses peoples knowledge. |
| 23:18.50 | klys | is your call on |
| 23:19.05 | Shadowwire | my call? You mean my phone? |
| 23:19.16 | klys | type m if you need me out |
| 23:19.35 | Shadowwire | what do you mean? |
| 23:19.45 | klys | eMphasis, remember |
| 23:20.17 | Shadowwire | you mean if i gotta leave? |
| 23:20.20 | Tene | as far as I can tell, some portion of what klys says is just random. |
| 23:20.23 | klys | yeah |
| 23:20.30 | klys | no, it has a referent |
| 23:20.33 | klys | and I have logs |
| 23:21.36 | Shadowwire | emacs is installing |
| 23:21.49 | Shadowwire | But I gotta run. |
| 23:21.52 | klys | ciao |
| 23:22.06 | klys | emacs -nw when you get back |
| 23:22.10 | Shadowwire | thanks for help and knowedge. |
| 23:22.19 | Shadowwire | tty tommarow? |
| 23:22.21 | klys | k thx for the company |
| 23:22.25 | klys | when |
| 23:22.35 | Shadowwire | Ill log in arround 9:00 |
| 23:22.41 | Shadowwire | am |
| 23:22.41 | klys | n1c3 |
| 23:22.48 | Shadowwire | n1c3? |
| 23:22.59 | klys | y35 |
| 23:23.15 | Shadowwire | P35r-x21 |
| 23:24.33 | klys | who's still here |
| 23:25.07 | klys | I mean, it got kind of smelly for a minute while we were figurin' out screen |
| 23:26.53 | klys | information overload |
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