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| 01:46.18 | mrpull-x | good evening |
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| 02:08.55 | vontrapp | anyone use gimp to do svg? |
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| 02:43.15 | fozzmoo | AU? |
| 02:43.34 | Dave_AU | australia |
| 02:43.54 | Dave_AU | or alternatively ayeyoo |
| 02:44.03 | fozzmoo | From? In? |
| 02:44.20 | Dave_AU | from. in utah |
| 02:44.30 | Dave_AU | currently |
| 02:44.32 | fozzmoo | Oh. How long have you been in Utah? |
| 02:45.11 | Dave_AU | almost 5 weeks |
| 02:45.26 | Dave_AU | i've got a week and a half to go |
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| 02:46.06 | fozzmoo | Dave_AU: You're only here temporarily? What brings you here for... 6 and a half weeks? |
| 02:46.09 | Dave_AU | bbs, phone. |
| 02:46.46 | fozzmoo | You know, 300 bps was slow enough you could read the text as it came down the line. |
| 02:46.59 | fozzmoo | But 1200 bps, you had to ^S and ^Q |
| 03:01.16 | Dave_AU | awww. and i just finished on the phone too. my credit ran out |
| 03:03.34 | Dave_AU | i'm in utah for work, contracting for rio tinto. |
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| 03:34.45 | fozzmoo | Dave_AU: I don't know who Rio Tinto is. What kind of work are you doing |
| 03:52.20 | mrpull-x | fozzmoo: Rio Tinto is the company that owns Kennecott (sp?) mine |
| 03:52.27 | mrpull-x | biiiiggg mining company |
| 03:52.43 | fozzmoo | Oh. Last I heard, Kennecott was owned by some Scottish company. |
| 03:53.01 | fozzmoo | But that's really old info. |
| 03:54.08 | mrpull-x | i think they are british/aussie |
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| 03:54.23 | mrpull-x | rocky mountain power used to be owned by scottish power |
| 03:54.28 | mrpull-x | but i dont think they are any longer |
| 04:16.31 | Dave_AU | fozzmoo: working with sql server reporting services, making reports |
| 04:16.55 | Dave_AU | mrpull-x: we just did kennecott's system |
| 04:17.28 | fozzmoo | Oh fun. SQL Server. |
| 04:17.47 | Dave_AU | yeah... ssrs, is even *more* fun |
| 04:19.59 | fozzmoo | Have you been able to do some fun stuff while here? |
| 04:20.01 | Dave_AU | i've never used such an unreliable, unfinished dev environment in my life |
| 04:20.06 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 04:21.02 | Dave_AU | yup, been to yellowstone and vegas on my weekends, and my highlight, being last weekend when i randomly went out with a bunch of guys from here, and got chinese |
| 04:21.18 | Dave_AU | quite random, but lots of fun. |
| 04:21.37 | Dave_AU | hopefully we can organise something for this weekend too |
| 04:21.39 | fozzmoo | Good. I guess it's been chilly back in Australia right now. |
| 04:21.52 | fozzmoo | Depending on where you're from. |
| 04:22.26 | fozzmoo | I hope you've been enjoying the triple-digit (F) temps and the dry air. |
| 04:22.47 | Dave_AU | yep, from Perth, western australia, and it's pretty wintery there. nothing like your winters tho. |
| 04:23.07 | Dave_AU | lol @ imperial measurements :P |
| 04:23.40 | fozzmoo | I'll never understand people I talk to who think the metric system is harder to understand than imperial. |
| 04:23.47 | fozzmoo | But I run into people like that all the time. |
| 04:23.50 | fozzmoo | My parents, for instance. |
| 04:24.51 | fozzmoo | President Reagan (1980-88) tried to get the US moving toward metric... but didn't make it very far. |
| 04:25.46 | Dave_AU | heh, and how you guys are one of the few left ! |
| 04:26.25 | fozzmoo | Yeah, but the US is the leader of the free world, so it doesn't matter. |
| 04:26.26 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 04:26.33 | Dave_AU | http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c2/350px-Metric_system.png |
| 04:26.44 | Dave_AU | haha, self appointed :P |
| 04:26.53 | fozzmoo | What's that in Asia? |
| 04:27.12 | fozzmoo | Northwest of Australia? |
| 04:27.34 | Dave_AU | some other little third world country, haha |
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| 04:28.27 | fozzmoo | Myanmar? |
| 04:28.43 | fozzmoo | Never even heard of the place. |
| 04:28.43 | Dave_AU | Three countries use non-metric measurement systems: Liberia, Myanmar, and the United States. |
| 04:28.50 | Dave_AU | well done! |
| 04:28.57 | fozzmoo | Google Maps saved me. |
| 04:29.41 | fozzmoo | The English are half and half, it seems. At least, with their beer. :) |
| 04:30.00 | fozzmoo | They'll talk about kilometers, pounds, and pints. |
| 04:30.14 | calvarez | hello |
| 04:30.14 | Dave_AU | hahah, yeah they've partly switched |
| 04:30.24 | fozzmoo | calvarez: Hiya |
| 04:30.25 | Dave_AU | even we have pints of beer in the au |
| 04:30.34 | Dave_AU | calvarez: hey |
| 04:30.35 | calvarez | any of you uses MythTV? |
| 04:30.36 | calvarez | any of you has a MythTV box? |
| 04:30.42 | calvarez | lol, sorry for double post |
| 04:30.50 | calvarez | still learning this IRC client |
| 04:30.58 | fozzmoo | Dave_AU: Not much romance or character in drinking a litre of beer. :) |
| 04:31.19 | fozzmoo | calvarez: I haven't used Myth, but there are a few who reguarly hang out here who do. |
| 04:32.07 | calvarez | I just have questions about the remotes that come with a particular hauppage card |
| 04:32.13 | fozzmoo | Dave_AU: Was it your first time in Las Vegas? |
| 04:32.43 | Dave_AU | fozzmoo: that'd be a stein of beer you're referring to. and i tend to find it quite romantic at times thanks :) |
| 04:32.52 | Dave_AU | yep, first time in vegas |
| 04:33.00 | Dave_AU | first time in the states actually |
| 04:33.01 | fozzmoo | Did it seem smaller than you thought it would be? |
| 04:33.25 | Dave_AU | vegas? i dunno. it's a crazy place... i guess the city itself is pretty small |
| 04:33.41 | fozzmoo | Well, the strip is tiny, I think, compared to what people expect. :) |
| 04:34.19 | fozzmoo | Have you visited any of the national and state parks in southern Utah? Zion? Bryce? |
| 04:34.50 | Dave_AU | nah, no time! i only get my weekends off unfortunately |
| 04:35.06 | Dave_AU | i hear that they're pretty impressive tho |
| 04:35.34 | fozzmoo | Have you been to Park City? |
| 04:35.36 | Dave_AU | actually, the drive back from vegas to slc was pretty awesome in parts |
| 04:35.41 | Dave_AU | nope |
| 04:35.47 | fozzmoo | That something you should do that's close. |
| 04:35.59 | Dave_AU | what's there? |
| 04:36.05 | Dave_AU | tell me more ... |
| 04:36.10 | fozzmoo | Well, that's where they hold the Sundance Film Festival every year. |
| 04:36.12 | fozzmoo | That's in January. |
| 04:36.19 | fozzmoo | But it's a ski resort town. |
| 04:36.25 | fozzmoo | It's only about 20-40 min from SLC. |
| 04:36.36 | fozzmoo | Just take Interstate 80 up Parley's Canyon. |
| 04:37.02 | fozzmoo | It's a big resort area. Lots of bars, gift shops, restaurants. |
| 04:37.25 | Dave_AU | nice, but it might have to wait till my next trip |
| 04:37.39 | Dave_AU | only this weekend left |
| 04:37.39 | fozzmoo | There's a few things to do in the Summer. They've got the Alpine Slide and a few other outdoor recreation-type things you can do. |
| 04:37.54 | Dave_AU | actually, i could do that saturday or sunday day |
| 04:37.59 | Dave_AU | not that far away |
| 04:38.03 | fozzmoo | No, it's not. |
| 04:38.31 | fozzmoo | Have you made it to Temple Square in downtown Salt Lake City? |
| 04:38.53 | fozzmoo | Can't come to Salt Lake City without having your chat with the missionaries. :) |
| 04:39.29 | Dave_AU | heh, nope, didnt make it all the way in, went to the gateway, thats about the closest |
| 04:39.42 | fozzmoo | wow. That's real close. :) |
| 04:39.52 | fozzmoo | Maybe next time you come, you can come when it's Winter. Maybe in December. |
| 04:39.53 | Dave_AU | way to make me feel like i've been hiding in my hotel room :P |
| 04:40.09 | Dave_AU | how close is it to gateway ? |
| 04:40.19 | fozzmoo | 3 to 4 blocks. |
| 04:40.45 | Dave_AU | i could just about have walked |
| 04:40.49 | fozzmoo | Uh huh. |
| 04:40.59 | fozzmoo | 0.8 km (did the conversion for you) |
| 04:41.21 | Dave_AU | lol, thanks. could do that no probs |
| 04:41.32 | Dave_AU | or, i guess i could just drive a bit closer |
| 04:41.43 | Dave_AU | if i've driven that far anyway |
| 04:41.52 | Dave_AU | so where's everyone else tonight ? |
| 04:41.57 | fozzmoo | Good question. |
| 04:42.13 | fozzmoo | There's usually a few people in here at this time. |
| 04:42.54 | fozzmoo | Well, I'm going to start writing some code and otherwise doing something semi-productive. I'll ttyl. |
| 04:43.32 | Dave_AU | for sure |
| 04:50.42 | calvarez | ok, silly question: if I make a RAID 1 array, do the disks have to be the same size? Is it OK if a disk is bigger tha the other one? |
| 04:52.06 | Supaplex|roaming | my bad. I was on ebay buying 110161510935 |
| 04:54.24 | Dave_AU | i think you only get the size of the smaller disk |
| 04:55.12 | Dave_AU | raid 1 = mirror array, so you can obviously only make a mirror of the smaller disk |
| 04:55.34 | Supaplex|roaming | taxes steal all the excess ;) |
| 04:56.18 | Dave_AU | a printer? |
| 04:56.52 | Supaplex|roaming | yup |
| 04:57.11 | Supaplex|roaming | now I can get rid of all the other so called printers I own. |
| 05:08.14 | tensai | calvarez: Dave_AU is correct, the array would be the size of the smaller disk |
| 05:08.27 | tensai | it works fine that way |
| 05:09.55 | calvarez | ok, more questions: my mobo supports hardware RAID (nForce 4 SLI) |
| 05:10.29 | calvarez | I want to know, do the 2 HDDs need to be similar in any way? interface? cache size? external transfer speed? |
| 05:11.30 | TheTiGuR | calvarez: It would be best to maintain consistency in your drives, but they shouldn't be required to be identical by the controller |
| 05:12.14 | TheTiGuR | I would suspect that the controller would at least require the drives to be of the same type (sata, scsi, etc), but beyond that, anything should be fair game |
| 05:25.10 | Dave_AU | yup, i concur with TheTiGuR. should be fine, might depend on the controller as to whether it'd care if they;re different sizes. |
| 05:46.02 | Dave_AU | night all |
| 05:47.37 | Supaplex|roaming | ~tickle Dave_AU_Sleeping |
| 05:47.38 | ibot | ACTION jumps on Dave_AU_Sleeping, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
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| 13:12.50 | nick125 | Anyone here know of a good way to get those CoA labels off without scratching the case? |
| 13:17.32 | herlo | nick125: there is this spray that wil remove them |
| 13:21.20 | nick125 | herlo: Do you happen to know the name of it? |
| 13:23.46 | herlo | nick125: I was just looking for it but I think the chemical is call phebuteline or something like that. I used to use it all the time 20 years ago |
| 13:27.29 | herlo | nick125: I guess now the recommend Goo Gone or something like it |
| 13:27.51 | nick125 | Hmmmmm.. |
| 13:28.10 | nick125 | I guess I'll pick up a few bottles on the way there |
| 13:29.50 | herlo | you're coming here? |
| 13:31.40 | nick125 | No. |
| 13:31.59 | herlo | nick125: so on the way where? |
| 13:32.20 | nick125 | herlo: To where I have to clean up these 80 machines :-) |
| 13:32.38 | herlo | ah |
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| 14:40.29 | Keighvin | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 14:40.29 | ibot | teaches Jayce^ that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
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| 14:48.31 | nick125 | Access can be a multi-user database :-) |
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| 14:55.02 | ^Migs^ | Access Multi-User: Hotseat Edition |
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| 15:08.27 | tensai | ~lart nick125 |
| 15:08.27 | ibot | frags nick125 with his BFG9000 |
| 15:08.37 | tensai | yeah, and a Ford Pinto can be a race car |
| 15:19.03 | Keighvin | tensai: no, really. You can story multiple user records in an Access database. (*rimshot*) |
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| 15:32.09 | TimRiker | huh? wha? :) |
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| 16:01.26 | elg | what's that set of rules for running meetings called? |
| 16:01.39 | fozzmoo | agenda? |
| 16:06.35 | thaddeusq | fozzmoo: I think elg is looking for Robert's Rules of Order |
| 16:06.51 | fozzmoo | Fine. :) |
| 16:07.04 | thaddeusq | I could be wrong. |
| 16:07.10 | Keighvin | fozzmo yeilds the floor. |
| 16:07.18 | Keighvin | s/ei/ie/ |
| 16:07.18 | elg | no, I think robbies rules of order is what I'm thinking of |
| 16:07.37 | thaddeusq | elg: Is that Robert's son? |
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| 16:09.18 | herlo | does anyone here enforce spf for their mail server? Or at least use it as a spam detection/filtering component? |
| 16:09.32 | Jayce^ | herlo, google does (and I'm using them now) |
| 16:09.42 | fozzmoo | herlo: I think SpamAssassin recognizes it as a credibility boosting element. |
| 16:09.45 | Jayce^ | when I did my own, I had it as a part of SA rules |
| 16:09.51 | herlo | Jayce^: I know, but I'm tring to figure out how to enforce it using postfix |
| 16:10.10 | herlo | Jayce^: cool, tx. I'm not very good at SA, but I've set it up before. |
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| 16:12.55 | fozzmoo | Could be cool. |
| 16:13.40 | elg | herlo: I used to do spa but joined the "spa considered harmful" crowd |
| 16:13.46 | elg | er, spf |
| 16:14.23 | herlo | elg: why do you think its harmful? I've seen very positive results from it |
| 16:16.47 | ^Migs^ | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4478632727623323561 |
| 16:17.57 | herlo | thaddeusq: I'm going to be good at it someday |
| 16:18.50 | fozzmoo | So you think you can dance all chinese-like. |
| 16:20.43 | herlo | fozzmoo: it feels that way sometimes |
| 16:21.08 | fozzmoo | http://www.moanmyip.com/ |
| 16:21.33 | fozzmoo | Might be embarrassing for work if you're not wearing headphones. |
| 16:21.37 | elg | herlo: it's been swapped out, but I had problems with it personally and in investigating I found a lot of very good arguments that convinced me it was a Bad Thing™ |
| 16:21.48 | elg | I remember being converted, but didn't bother to remember the details. :) |
| 16:21.56 | mrpull | fozzmoo: that is genius! |
| 16:21.57 | elg | My brain is too small for that sort of thing |
| 16:22.18 | elg | bradipo (may he rest in IRC peace) is better at advocating |
| 16:22.57 | herlo | mrpull: that was shared yesterday. i was enjoying her scream and moan all day |
| 16:23.00 | herlo | :) |
| 16:23.18 | ^Migs^ | "All 21 of the dancers are complete deaf-mutes. Relying only on signals from trainers at the four corners of the stage..." |
| 16:23.19 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 16:23.37 | ^Migs^ | moanmyip.com not found |
| 16:23.52 | herlo | elg: you should have posted up your reasoning, then you could say "Look at this post I did x years ago" |
| 16:23.58 | herlo | ah well |
| 16:27.15 | cardinal | Hello all. |
| 16:27.34 | cardinal | I'm new to PLUG and thought I would introduce myself. |
| 16:27.39 | herlo | cardinal: good morning |
| 16:27.41 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY8Wi7XRXCA&NR=1 |
| 16:27.57 | herlo | ^Migs^: do you just surf youtube all day? |
| 16:28.08 | cardinal | herlo: Good morning to you also |
| 16:28.13 | herlo | :) |
| 16:28.36 | ^Migs^ | I don't even surf the web at all. I just post links other people give me |
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| 16:29.09 | elg | herlo: you're absolutely right |
| 16:30.19 | elg | but I didn't. this thread might not be a bad start though http://www.plug.org/pipermail/plug/2007-June/026622.html |
| 16:30.52 | elg | and this one http://www.plug.org/pipermail/plug/2007-June/026652.html |
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| 16:31.45 | fozzmoo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOohBytKTU |
| 16:31.55 | herlo | elg: tx |
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| 16:35.03 | herlo | elg: interesting stuff. I've been reading this to counteract the spf sucks thread - http://www.openspf.org/Best_Practices/Checking_at_border_MTAs |
| 16:36.53 | tensai | redbeard2: ping |
| 16:37.50 | elg | i now remember the trouble I had - it was that I was trying to send mail from my domain over various smtp routes as the situation requires. at my parents, where cable blocks outbound smtp? gotta use their smtp server. don't want to fight thunderbird continuously about smtp? gotta use one or two main smtp servers for all the email addresses |
| 16:38.01 | elg | etc. etc. |
| 16:38.11 | elg | i did follow best practices of spf too |
| 16:38.56 | redbeard2 | tensai: pong |
| 16:39.13 | tensai | redbeard2: I'm not gonna make it to UTOSC :( |
| 16:39.28 | redbeard2 | tensai: dude, that sucks. you'll be missed. |
| 16:39.28 | fozzmoo | ~lart tensai |
| 16:39.28 | ibot | teaches tensai that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 16:40.06 | tensai | redbeard2: I tried man. too many things going on. |
| 16:40.23 | tensai | fozzmoo: which model of mediagate are you going to get? |
| 16:40.45 | fozzmoo | tensai: Probably the 25. That's what my bro-in-law has. |
| 16:43.10 | ^Migs^ | http://hvattum.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/funeral_services_billboard.jpg |
| 16:43.16 | ^Migs^ | SFW |
| 16:43.36 | fozzmoo | HAH! |
| 16:43.59 | ^Migs^ | brilliant |
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| 16:48.03 | tensai | ok, so the 25 has no ethernet port and uses a 2.5" disk rather than 3.5" |
| 16:48.06 | elg | ibot, say I move to kick Jayce^ |
| 16:48.07 | ibot | I move to kick Jayce^ |
| 16:48.34 | tensai | I think I'm going to go with the 35. I want it to sit quitely by my TV, without my noisy computer nearby |
| 16:48.47 | cardinal | ~quote sxoc |
| 16:48.59 | Jayce^ | elg, don't do it... |
| 16:49.00 | tensai | ~quot scox |
| 16:49.01 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 16:49.09 | tensai | ~quote scox |
| 16:49.44 | cardinal | tensai: Thanks. |
| 16:49.58 | cardinal | My fingers got out out of step. |
| 16:50.01 | tensai | no, no. thank judge Kimball. :) |
| 16:50.21 | Shadowwire | ~lart judge kimball |
| 16:50.21 | ibot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at judge kimball |
| 16:50.39 | Shadowwire | ~unlart? |
| 16:57.13 | herlo | ibot: unlart $1 is <action> beats Shadowwire for even suggesting the idea |
| 16:57.13 | ibot | herlo: okay |
| 16:57.17 | herlo | ~unlart herlo |
| 16:57.18 | ibot | ACTION beats Shadowwire for even suggesting the idea |
| 16:57.41 | findlay-w | dude |
| 16:59.49 | graphyx | I should know this, but what is the way to fix this error? |
| 16:59.50 | graphyx | ash: ./dh.pl: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 17:00.00 | graphyx | when I vi it it looks just fine. |
| 17:00.06 | tensai | :set ff=unix |
| 17:00.23 | findlay-w | dos2unix dh.pl? |
| 17:01.01 | graphyx | tensai: that did it. |
| 17:01.02 | graphyx | thanks. |
| 17:01.48 | Tene | Can anyone tell me how to verify an installed package's contents in debian? |
| 17:02.06 | findlay-w | dpkg -l pkg |
| 17:02.12 | tensai | there's no analog to rpm's verify, afaik |
| 17:02.17 | findlay-w | oh |
| 17:02.40 | Shadowwire | ~reward klys |
| 17:02.51 | Shadowwire | guess not. |
| 17:02.54 | tensai | dpkg -L pkg will show the contents of the package |
| 17:03.52 | Tene | tensai: that's... awkward. |
| 17:04.20 | tensai | dpkg -L pkg |while read f; do if [ ! -e ${f} ]; then echo "404: ${f}"; fi; done |
| 17:04.42 | tensai | that'll show you whether the files are there. I'm not sure if dpkg keeps md5 sums for files though. |
| 17:04.53 | tensai | Tene: yeah, it's a failing of dpkg |
| 17:04.53 | findlay-w | s/404/dude?/ |
| 17:10.35 | elg | Jayce^: looks like nobody seconded |
| 17:10.47 | elg | but do you think I'd do ibot's dirty work? |
| 17:11.10 | findlay-w | nobody's on second? |
| 17:11.34 | graphyx | ~quote scox |
| 17:11.56 | graphyx | down 10% |
| 17:11.58 | graphyx | wow |
| 17:13.23 | tensai | yeah, but 10% of jack squat isn't a whole lot |
| 17:14.11 | graphyx | how many shares could you buy at .50$? |
| 17:14.16 | findlay-w | but it's 100 per mil |
| 17:14.31 | findlay-w | or 1 per 10 |
| 17:14.35 | findlay-w | or 0.1 |
| 17:16.08 | findlay-w | aren't you glad I'm here to tell you useful things like that? |
| 17:16.39 | levi | Woot, I have code to write now. |
| 17:16.57 | findlay-w | cardinal: there's only one plug list so that we can keep the flames as concentrated and destructive as possible |
| 17:17.06 | levi | cardinal: Just one, AFAIK. |
| 17:17.28 | cardinal | findlay-w: levi: Thanks. |
| 17:17.38 | cardinal | I like it when thing are kept simple. |
| 17:18.04 | findlay-w | and if things aren't simple on the plug list, they just get burned up anyway |
| 17:18.15 | cardinal | I'll try not to get burned if the flames start coming ;) |
| 17:25.23 | cardinal | levi: May I ask where and when you attended college? |
| 17:25.57 | cardinal | I knew a Levi Pearson when I was in school, just wondering you are that Levi Pearson. |
| 17:26.05 | cardinal | If you don't mind. |
| 17:26.59 | elg | he went to the mountaintop academy of lisp and scheme |
| 17:31.44 | tensai | cardinal: he went to BYU in the late 90s |
| 17:32.14 | tensai | and is not enrolled at UVSC, I believe |
| 17:32.18 | tensai | s/not/now/ |
| 17:32.43 | cardinal | tensai: Thanks. Sounds like he is the same Levi Pearson. |
| 17:33.08 | cardinal | I saw his name come up on a UVLUG mailing list the other day as wel. |
| 17:33.16 | cardinal | s/wel/well. |
| 17:57.06 | herlo | ibot: reward $one is <action> gives $one a brownie point. And a *kick* in the pants! |
| 17:57.07 | ibot | herlo: okay |
| 17:57.11 | herlo | ~reward herlo |
| 17:57.12 | ibot | ACTION gives herlo a brownie point. And a *kick* in the pants! |
| 17:57.18 | herlo | :) |
| 18:28.19 | elg | guess I ought to review the material i'm supposed to teach them students in an hour |
| 18:28.55 | ^Migs^ | !quote BSCI |
| 18:28.57 | UtahBot | ^Migs^: Error: "quote" is not a valid command. |
| 18:28.58 | ^Migs^ | ~quote BSCI |
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| 18:39.54 | ^Migs^ | bwaaah? |
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| 19:13.16 | nick125_treo | welp |
| 19:13.24 | nick125_treo | I got 56 machines cleaned |
| 19:13.29 | nick125_treo | in 3.5 hours |
| 19:13.43 | tensai | fire hose? |
| 19:14.07 | nick125_treo | that wouldve been quicker |
| 19:14.11 | elg | any rust on them? |
| 19:14.18 | nick125_treo | it took two of us to get that much done |
| 19:14.20 | nick125_treo | no :p |
| 19:14.21 | tensai | and was it old rust or new rust? |
| 19:14.33 | nick125_treo | haha |
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| 19:41.02 | Shadowwire | does anyone actualy stay till 5:00 on friday? |
| 19:41.59 | tensai | I heard about this one guy from Iowa who stayed till like 5:03 on a Friday, back in 2001 |
| 19:42.36 | Shadowwire | Hard core. |
| 19:45.52 | jsmith | In fact, I'm usually working until 6 or 7 on Fridays :-( |
| 19:45.59 | mrpull | here is a helpful, but unsolicited piece of advice for all of you. |
| 19:46.03 | Tene | If I did that, I'd miss my flight home. |
| 19:46.09 | mrpull | if you have an appointment for a job interview |
| 19:46.13 | mrpull | SHOW UP |
| 19:46.21 | tensai | mrpull: no, seriously? |
| 19:46.27 | tensai | I smell a good story here |
| 19:46.27 | mrpull | or you probably don't have a very good chance of getting hired |
| 19:46.28 | Shadowwire | I thought that the fabric of space swallowed (places of employment) @ 5 on friday. |
| 19:46.32 | mrpull | not a good story |
| 19:46.33 | Tene | mrpull: what if I already got another job before the interview was scheduled? |
| 19:46.50 | mrpull | looking at this guy's resume, maybe he did |
| 19:46.51 | Tene | Shadowwire: you want me to miss my flight? :( |
| 19:46.52 | goozbach | I'm the only one going to be in the office at any time after right.... NOW |
| 19:46.55 | mrpull | he as a job hopper |
| 19:47.01 | mrpull | was/is (whatever) |
| 19:47.16 | mrpull | he did schedule the call yesterday tho... |
| 19:47.29 | mrpull | and today is too soon to forget |
| 19:47.36 | mrpull | or find a new job |
| 19:48.08 | Tene | sinuhe went in for a job interview and was on an airplane out of state that night when he got hired at gurulabs. |
| 19:48.08 | Shadowwire | tene: No dont miss your flight. |
| 19:48.11 | Tene | It happens. |
| 19:48.24 | tensai | ~wiki Hanlon's razor |
| 19:48.42 | Shadowwire | nice quote. |
| 19:49.17 | tensai | I'm going to guess he got stuck inside a pumpkin |
| 19:49.41 | Shadowwire | Jobs are overrated anyway. |
| 19:50.13 | Shadowwire | i mean realy, who wants to work? |
| 19:50.15 | goozbach | Tene: and he[sinuhe] had to suffer through my choice of resturants for that first week as well. |
| 19:50.19 | RyanE | we had a guy do that last week as well. |
| 19:50.21 | goozbach | poor guy |
| 19:50.32 | jsmith | Mmmmn.... restaurants |
| 19:50.39 | tensai | RyanE: stuck inside a pumpkin? |
| 19:50.41 | RyanE | just no-show. We contacted him, he tried to rush over, thought it was at 4, instead of 3... |
| 19:51.03 | Shadowwire | I think the advice was good. |
| 19:51.06 | RyanE | so he interviewed last Monday, did as well as if he hadn't shown up... :() |
| 19:51.55 | Shadowwire | Ive only ever gotten a few jobs that i didnt interview for. |
| 19:52.09 | RyanE | I've only ever gotten *1* job that I had a formal, sit-down interview for. |
| 19:52.30 | Shadowwire | RyanE: how many jobs have you had? |
| 19:52.37 | graphyx | does that mean you are bad at interviewing? |
| 19:53.09 | RyanE | apparently, so, but the last couple of guys we've interviewed were cringe-inducing in certain ways. I don't think I'm *that* bad. |
| 19:53.27 | Tene | RyanE: stories! Share! |
| 19:53.32 | goozbach | don't hold out |
| 19:53.51 | RyanE | The stories unfortunately are not good storytelling. |
| 19:53.51 | Shadowwire | indeed. |
| 19:53.58 | Shadowwire | rats. |
| 19:54.13 | tensai | but we enjoy wallowing in misery |
| 19:54.24 | Shadowwire | I have a good one! |
| 19:54.25 | RyanE | however, one of them was doing OK, until we asked about development environments... he then went into a 10-minute tirade about Microsoft development tools... |
| 19:55.26 | RyanE | now, I don't think Microsoft is necessarily the best of companies, but their dev tools are pretty decent. Our client application is in C# in Windows. |
| 19:56.04 | RyanE | our back-end stuff (controllers, touchpanels, etc.) all run Linux, but being a vehement MS-basher in an *interview*? Not the best of ideas. |
| 19:56.39 | thaddeusq | RyanE: better to find out in the interview than later on. |
| 19:57.24 | mrpull | I like to ask the old what do hate about technology x / what do you love about technology x question |
| 19:57.26 | RyanE | it wasn't that he was anti-Microsoft, either. It was that he had no reasons why he preferred non-MS tools. If he'd said, "Yeah, I do all my development in X, because it's Y works better than Microsoft's tools", it would've been fine. |
| 19:57.33 | mrpull | if they cant see both sides of the story, they may be trouble |
| 19:58.13 | fozzmoo | In the case of Microsoft, there really is only one side to the story. ;-) |
| 19:58.14 | Shadowwire | i would agree. |
| 19:58.28 | Tene | Yes, but there's an actual story. |
| 19:58.38 | fozzmoo | It's a short story: they suck. |
| 19:58.50 | RyanE | yeah, like I said, they weren't good for storytelling. |
| 19:58.51 | Tene | If the only thing said is "X is bad." without any reaosns or better alternatives... |
| 19:59.16 | fozzmoo | How about, "Don't get me started?" |
| 19:59.23 | tensai | Down with X. Up with Display Postscript. |
| 19:59.28 | mrpull | fozz: you cant see even one positive aspect of MS? |
| 19:59.30 | mrpull | ONE? |
| 19:59.34 | Shadowwire | Ah yes, one of my favorite sayings. |
| 19:59.36 | RyanE | another one presented himself quite well, said his favorite environment was C++, that he'd done quite a few projects in it, and couldn't write a function to count the number of '1' bits in a char. |
| 19:59.43 | fozzmoo | mrpull: There's so much overshadowing anything good. |
| 20:00.11 | fozzmoo | mrpull: Excel was nice at one time. :) |
| 20:00.20 | mrpull | yeah... that is another fun trick... ask someone what their expertise in a technology is |
| 20:00.21 | tensai | mrpull: I really like their mice |
| 20:00.32 | fozzmoo | Yeah- some of their hardware is okay. |
| 20:00.34 | mrpull | and when they say they are experts ask them for nitty gritty details |
| 20:00.51 | tensai | visual basic, otoh, makes me physically ill |
| 20:00.59 | Shadowwire | we had a guy show up for an interview 15 min late, then ask for a ride home because he didnt have a car. (40 miles!) |
| 20:01.06 | fozzmoo | hah hah |
| 20:01.09 | RyanE | I actually even like Visual Studio (I only use C++ and C#, no VB!), although it's sooooo overpriced it makes my head spin thinking about it. |
| 20:01.20 | tensai | Shadowwire: how did he get there? |
| 20:01.25 | fozzmoo | Shadowwire: That's his way of saying, "I REALLY need this job." |
| 20:01.54 | tensai | offer to pay him in car rides |
| 20:01.57 | Shadowwire | his girlfriend dropped him off. |
| 20:02.06 | fozzmoo | nice. |
| 20:02.18 | RyanE | but she doesn't like him enough to wait to give him a ride home? |
| 20:02.22 | mrpull | I guess you'd better put "have transportation" in the job description |
| 20:02.29 | Shadowwire | I guess not. |
| 20:02.41 | Shadowwire | It was. |
| 20:03.03 | tensai | "oh, you mean transporation *both* ways?" |
| 20:03.13 | fozzmoo | It's a frequently-uttered phrase in our office. :) |
| 20:03.16 | Shadowwire | I should have been more specific. |
| 20:03.19 | RyanE | the other interviewee (ok, I talked about 2 of 3 already) for some reason missed the social clue that we had transitioned from the 'good-natured banter' part of the interview to the 'let's seriously discuss what you know' part... |
| 20:04.22 | Shadowwire | I got a job over annother guy because he looked like a Cobol programer. |
| 20:04.48 | Shadowwire | in other words, OLD. |
| 20:05.55 | RyanE | age discrimination or salary discrimination? |
| 20:06.02 | Shadowwire | yes? |
| 20:06.32 | Shadowwire | I dont know what he wanted for a salary, but Ill bet that it was more than mine. |
| 20:06.47 | Shadowwire | not that that would have been difficult. |
| 20:08.26 | mrpull | i've got a policy that says I have to ask the same questions of every applicant |
| 20:08.44 | mrpull | that is painful when by question 2 you know that the guy is definitely not a fit |
| 20:08.45 | Shadowwire | does it say how you have to ask them? |
| 20:08.46 | herlo | ~unlart mrpull |
| 20:08.47 | ibot | ACTION beats Shadowwire for even suggesting the idea |
| 20:09.15 | Shadowwire | darn unlart. |
| 20:11.01 | Shadowwire | say the question is "What are your strengths, weaknesses, and interests?" |
| 20:11.52 | Shadowwire | you could say "Do you even have any strengths amoung all those weaknesses?" |
| 20:12.09 | mrpull | Shadowwire: that could be fun |
| 20:12.24 | mrpull | interviewing people is simultaneously wonderful and painful |
| 20:12.25 | herlo | jsmith: ping |
| 20:12.31 | jsmith | herlo: NACK |
| 20:12.38 | Shadowwire | nack? |
| 20:12.49 | Shadowwire | ~unlart ? |
| 20:12.54 | herlo | jsmith: oh, I was just gonna tell you that UTOSC now has 160 registrants so you *are* coming |
| 20:13.13 | jsmith | herlo: w00t! |
| 20:13.20 | herlo | jsmith: yuppers |
| 20:14.21 | Shadowwire | If you dont like an applicant, just ask "Will you relocate?" |
| 20:14.27 | RyanE | herlo: no chance of you changing the date so I can come eh? : |
| 20:14.33 | rsimpkins | diesel: there? |
| 20:14.36 | RyanE | Shadowwire: to outer Siberia? |
| 20:14.45 | Shadowwire | right. :) |
| 20:14.48 | herlo | RyanE: nope |
| 20:15.03 | herlo | RyanE: you should have thought of that before you decided to go to your conferecne :) |
| 20:15.20 | RyanE | yeah, CEDIA decided when they were holding this years' conference before you did... |
| 20:15.26 | mrpull | i think it is a bummer UTOSC is on a saturday |
| 20:15.34 | Shadowwire | ~lart CEDIA |
| 20:15.34 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at CEDIA |
| 20:15.47 | RyanE | Shadowwire: don't knock it until you try it. |
| 20:15.49 | levi | cardinal: Heya. Sorry, I went to lunch and was meeting with coworkers and stuff. |
| 20:15.56 | Shadowwire | oh, sorry. |
| 20:16.03 | RyanE | ~lart Shadowwire |
| 20:16.03 | ibot | flings poo at Shadowwire |
| 20:16.14 | herlo | ~unlart Shadowwire |
| 20:16.14 | ibot | ACTION beats Shadowwire for even suggesting the idea |
| 20:16.19 | RyanE | ouch |
| 20:16.22 | herlo | Shadowwire: I tried... |
| 20:16.25 | Shadowwire | Im begining to feel unwanted. |
| 20:16.31 | RyanE | ~unlart Shadowwire |
| 20:16.32 | ibot | ACTION beats Shadowwire for even suggesting the idea |
| 20:16.41 | RyanE | I think ibot has it out for you, Shadowwire |
| 20:17.10 | Shadowwire | I guess Ill stop suggesting Idias. |
| 20:17.16 | herlo | ibot: no, unlart $one is <action> whallops Jayce^ just for being the PLUG president |
| 20:17.17 | ibot | okay, herlo |
| 20:17.20 | herlo | ~unlart Shadowwire |
| 20:17.21 | ibot | ACTION whallops Jayce^ just for being the PLUG president |
| 20:17.57 | Shadowwire | how odd? |
| 20:18.22 | herlo | Shadowwire: what's odd? |
| 20:18.35 | Shadowwire | the whole unlart thing. |
| 20:18.37 | thaddeusq | herlo: you're odd |
| 20:19.31 | Tene | http://forums.worsethanfailure.com/forums/thread/128692.aspx |
| 20:19.33 | tensai | ~unlart $foo is <action> whallops $who for even suggesting the idea |
| 20:19.34 | ibot | ACTION whallops Jayce^ just for being the PLUG president |
| 20:19.39 | tensai | ~no, unlart $foo is <action> whallops $who for even suggesting the idea |
| 20:19.49 | Tene | ~tensai Shadowwire |
| 20:19.50 | ibot | ACTION chrome-plates Shadowwire. |
| 20:19.57 | Shadowwire | cool |
| 20:20.28 | herlo | Tene: that's a nice one |
| 20:20.28 | Shadowwire | chrome plated wire. (even if it is only a shadow) |
| 20:20.36 | herlo | ~herlo Shadowwire |
| 20:20.37 | ibot | ACTION pokes Shadowwire in they eye with a sharp needle |
| 20:20.46 | Shadowwire | ~herlo herlo |
| 20:20.47 | ibot | ACTION pokes herlo in they eye with a sharp needle |
| 20:21.02 | Tene | ~levi herlo |
| 20:21.02 | ibot | ACTION gives herlo a hovercraft and then fills it with eels! |
| 20:21.07 | herlo | tensai: thanks for showing me how to do the $who thing |
| 20:21.26 | diesel | rsimpkins: yeah |
| 20:21.32 | herlo | unagi, of course |
| 20:24.38 | rsimpkins | diesel: sent you a msg |
| 20:31.30 | mrpull | nick125: the trick is this |
| 20:31.40 | mrpull | in the future insist that you get onsite service |
| 20:31.45 | mrpull | (get somebody else to pay for it) |
| 20:32.01 | nick125 | The place I called basically said that unless I pay the $35 fee, it's on a gets-done-when-it-gets-done basis. |
| 20:39.04 | mrpull | $35 is probably worth the convenience |
| 20:42.16 | nick125 | The main thing I'm worried about is the BBB closing the case before I can get the report |
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| 20:45.45 | jbellis | has someone written something like "hg addremove" (add new files, remove missing ones) for svn? I'm having trouble googling one |
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| 21:25.34 | bonez39 | if I have rhythmbox and other music players working..... and yet I get no content producing any music in firefox, or iceweasel or other browsers...none of the browsers I open produce sound...what might be causing such silence? |
| 21:26.15 | herlo | bonez39: are you using rhythmbox, etc at the same time you are using FF? |
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| 21:26.56 | herlo | I recently saw a thing about exactly this situation in the Fedora-devel ml and they said that F8 should fix it and that it was a kernel problem IIRC |
| 21:27.04 | herlo | er module problem |
| 21:27.13 | bonez39 | herlo: good question, I have neither open at the moment... |
| 21:27.26 | bonez39 | module problem eh? |
| 21:27.28 | herlo | bonez39: reboot, and try to get ff to work... |
| 21:27.30 | bonez39 | I run debian 3.1... |
| 21:27.41 | herlo | bonez39: I don't know if it affects debian |
| 21:28.03 | bonez39 | oh......this is a long term debian problem.....for me anyway... |
| 21:28.13 | bonez39 | I'll check in #debian |
| 21:30.03 | herlo | bonez39: okay, hope I helped |
| 21:32.05 | bonez39 | eh? couldn't hear ya... |
| 21:32.07 | bonez39 | heheh |
| 21:34.07 | bonez39 | when I open my wife's laptop running xp...sometimes I think......geez...wish my linux system would work this way...until it starts to lock up...but the multimedia...and graphics handling..... |
| 21:34.27 | Tene | example? |
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| 21:36.10 | bonez39 | all the sound..I open firefox on her laptop..and say..I open kansasband.com boom out comes great Kansas music..as it loads up...that doesn't happen on any of my linux boxen.... |
| 21:36.49 | bonez39 | I use mutt for email..constantly I get stuff where..they have attached a .tif image..and damned if I can't get anything to open and print that image... |
| 21:37.03 | Tene | What distro do you use, btw? |
| 21:37.18 | bonez39 | debian 3.1.... |
| 21:38.20 | Tene | Different distros take different amounts of work to set up to handle such things. |
| 21:39.20 | bonez39 | true...I realize there is some tuning...I have java working on all my systems..but that's a tricky bisness to set things up and make it all work...could be simpler if everyone worked together on such things.. |
| 21:39.47 | Tene | There are some distros that have a lot of that set up out of the box. |
| 21:39.57 | Tene | Some distros that are one or two steps away from that. |
| 21:40.11 | Tene | Some distros where you need to enable another repository or two and install some packages. |
| 21:40.15 | Tene | etc. |
| 21:42.59 | bonez39 | well, I'd do what ever I need to get the sound enabled, but I find very little direction on this.. |
| 21:43.32 | mrpull | what a cool demo: |
| 21:43.33 | mrpull | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/08/context_aware_i.html |
| 21:43.46 | mrpull | "Context Aware Image Resizing" |
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| 22:36.35 | ibot | ACTION whallops shadowwire for thinking of the idea |
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| 22:41.28 | sontek | Theres a lot of mrpull's |
| 22:49.55 | mrpull | its true... i'm lazy |
| 22:50.03 | mrpull | and stay logged in from multiple machines |
| 22:51.11 | fungus | mrpull: http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi |
| 22:58.58 | findlay-w | heh |
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