| 00:06.33 | elg | oh my, there's a student in this class named Apinporn |
| 00:06.39 | elg | remind me not to name my son that |
| 00:06.43 | elg | or daughter |
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| 00:24.15 | maquis | elg: i don't think we'll need to remind you |
| 00:25.05 | maquis | although, i head from someplace about some poor kind whose name was "anna resick" (or something like that) whose parents didn't realize that it sounded like "anorexic" until she was in kindergarten |
| 00:29.13 | Tene | I knew a Jodie Recksik in High School whose sister was named Anna. |
| 00:30.02 | Tene | not sure about the spelling of the last name, but it was definitely that sound. |
| 00:52.50 | elg | ok, sed gurus |
| 00:53.33 | elg | have file with ugly HTML. want to put some unique text, e.g. "BODY_GOES_HERE", and have a script dump my simple HTML (generated from markdown) in the middle |
| 00:53.44 | elg | can sed insert the contents of a file? |
| 00:54.56 | elg | (yes I already tried SSI, the server doesn't have it or has it disabled) |
| 01:23.57 | atoponce | active_window |
| 01:26.11 | elg | #utah |
| 01:26.19 | RyanE | #nevada |
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| 01:43.03 | atoponce | heh |
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| 02:23.54 | levi | Having outbound ssh blocked at the firewall at work sucks. |
| 02:23.56 | calvarez | hullo |
| 02:24.05 | levi | Hi, calvarez. |
| 02:25.00 | levi | Also, my HTPC power supplies are all too weak. :( I have a 1U power supply in it now, and it's a buzzy nasty piece of junk, but at least it turns on now. |
| 02:25.06 | elg | yeah, that's pretty terrible |
| 02:25.50 | calvarez | HTPC? MythTV? |
| 02:26.00 | levi | calvarez: Yup. |
| 02:26.07 | calvarez | how well does it work? |
| 02:26.23 | levi | Pretty well, though I should have got a faster CPU. |
| 02:26.34 | levi | HD stuff is taxing on the processor. |
| 02:26.38 | calvarez | what do you have on that HTPC? |
| 02:26.50 | calvarez | specs? |
| 02:27.03 | levi | It's a low-end Athlon64. |
| 02:27.06 | atoponce | levi: can you got out on port 8080? |
| 02:27.11 | levi | atoponce: Yup. |
| 02:27.12 | calvarez | hmm |
| 02:27.21 | atoponce | i added that port to my sshd for that exact reason |
| 02:27.31 | calvarez | I wanted to set an HTPC with an Athlon XP 2000+ |
| 02:27.38 | calvarez | 512MB RAM |
| 02:27.44 | levi | atoponce: I already tried doing it over port 21, but my sshd rejects the connections from work for some reason. |
| 02:27.57 | levi | calvarez: Probably just fine if you're not doing HD. |
| 02:28.00 | atoponce | odd |
| 02:28.41 | calvarez | yea, no HD |
| 02:28.59 | calvarez | well, I need advice/opinions |
| 02:29.09 | calvarez | now that we're talking about HTPCs |
| 02:29.30 | calvarez | I have a spare AthlonXP 2000+ 512MB 80GB |
| 02:30.06 | calvarez | I was planning on buying a hauppage WinTV PVR-150 MCE, some Nvidia card and a bigger HDD (250-320 GB) |
| 02:30.22 | calvarez | all of that would be around $200-250 |
| 02:30.48 | calvarez | on the other hand, I could just buy a DVD recorder |
| 02:30.52 | calvarez | for $100 |
| 02:31.33 | levi | You could use the system you have and probably be just fine. |
| 02:31.50 | levi | MythArchive does a great job of burning stuff to DVD, BTW. |
| 02:31.57 | levi | You can cut out commercials and everything. |
| 02:32.12 | calvarez | I don't care much for DVD burning, I just want to be able to digitize stuff off TV |
| 02:32.24 | calvarez | it's just a comparison cost |
| 02:32.41 | calvarez | I'd like the nice MythTV features, but I want to know if they're worth the money |
| 02:32.46 | levi | atoponce: Hmm, now that I'm home and can look at my logs, I see sshd dropped the connection because it "Did not receive identification string from" the remote system. |
| 02:33.15 | calvarez | if I ditch the MythTV idea, I could get a DVD recorder box for my TV and an iPod for video playback |
| 02:33.19 | levi | calvarez: How much is the Hauppage card? You may not even need a new video card or HD. |
| 02:33.55 | levi | Your Athlon should be able to play back SD video just fine. |
| 02:34.04 | beandog | ooh, Im missing out! |
| 02:34.44 | beandog | mythtv++ |
| 02:34.51 | beandog | Hauppauge cards are around $75 to $150 |
| 02:34.52 | atoponce | levi: forwarding your ssh identity? |
| 02:35.03 | beandog | $75 for the 150 |
| 02:35.05 | beandog | $150 for the 500 |
| 02:35.12 | beandog | then theres the 300 |
| 02:35.15 | beandog | I dunno how much that is |
| 02:35.32 | levi | atoponce: No, I was just doing a regular ssh. |
| 02:37.29 | nick125 | Hrm, this VOIP provider still hasn't emailed me telling me they canceled my account. |
| 02:37.42 | nick125 | And they keep sending me invoices. For the past three months. Lovely. |
| 02:40.20 | calvarez | levi, the hauppage card is $90 |
| 02:40.30 | calvarez | I don't want to do software encoding |
| 02:40.55 | levi | An nvidia card wouldn't have anything to do with encoding. |
| 02:41.08 | calvarez | that would be for the decoding |
| 02:41.29 | levi | That doesn't actually work very well. |
| 02:41.36 | calvarez | hmm? |
| 02:41.38 | levi | At least in my experience. |
| 02:41.39 | atoponce | levi: hmm. i guess i'm not famailiar with that error then |
| 02:42.22 | calvarez | nvidia cards have MPEG-2 decoding in hardware |
| 02:42.32 | levi | calvarez: I had to shut off the nvidia MPEG-2 hardware decoding because it caused issues. |
| 02:42.45 | calvarez | which card is this? |
| 02:43.01 | levi | An onboard nvidia. |
| 02:43.19 | calvarez | oh, onboard |
| 02:43.24 | calvarez | which model? |
| 02:43.26 | levi | nforce4, I think. |
| 02:43.34 | calvarez | that's a chipset, not a GPU |
| 02:43.36 | levi | I don't recall the details. |
| 02:44.12 | calvarez | it's the GPU that does hardware MPEG-2 decoding |
| 02:44.16 | levi | I got the motherboard because it had a header for component video output. |
| 02:44.22 | levi | calvarez: I'm aware of that. |
| 02:44.26 | calvarez | oh |
| 02:44.30 | calvarez | gotcha |
| 02:45.12 | levi | I might try it again; there were some other issues that I might have blamed on the hardware decoding. |
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| 13:55.48 | ^Migs^ | http://www.freechickenandcoke.com/ Free Chick-fil-A coupon + Medium Coke |
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| 14:15.30 | goozbach | isn't there a program like unto getent which gets ONLY then non-local accounts? |
| 14:15.42 | goozbach | as opposed to the local and network accounts? |
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| 15:13.28 | ^Migs^ | http://www.seapahn.us/hf/mos_hunt.jpg |
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| 15:28.33 | Shadowwire | ~eat fungus |
| 15:28.34 | ibot | ACTION eats fungus and falls over dead |
| 15:29.19 | Shadowwire | ~eat food |
| 15:29.19 | ibot | ACTION eats food and falls over dead |
| 15:29.40 | Shadowwire | ~beat himself |
| 15:29.41 | ibot | ACTION relentlessly beats himself over the head with a Louisville Slugger |
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| 16:05.02 | Supaplex | fungus: https://www.freechickenandcoke.com/ |
| 16:07.02 | herlo | goozbach: ping |
| 16:08.52 | fozzmoo | ~smack herlo |
| 16:08.53 | ibot | ACTION smacks herlo upside the head. |
| 16:12.38 | fungus | Not interested in chicken. Coke, yes, but not chicken |
| 16:12.43 | herlo | ~cook fozzmoo |
| 16:12.43 | ibot | ACTION throws fozzmoo in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks fozzmoo on 350 for an hour |
| 16:13.47 | Shadowwire | ~break klys |
| 16:13.59 | Shadowwire | or not. |
| 16:14.27 | herlo | ~beat Shadowwire |
| 16:14.28 | ibot | ACTION relentlessly beats Shadowwire over the head with a Louisville Slugger |
| 16:14.48 | Shadowwire | ~eat herlo |
| 16:14.48 | ibot | ACTION eats herlo and falls over dead |
| 16:14.53 | herlo | ~herlo Shadowwire |
| 16:14.54 | ibot | ACTION pokes Shadowwire with a sharp needle |
| 16:15.07 | Shadowwire | ouch. |
| 16:15.25 | Shadowwire | ~poke herlo |
| 16:15.26 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind herlo, pokes herlo repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 16:15.26 | herlo | ibot: no, herlo $1 is <action> pokes $1 in they eye with a sharp needle |
| 16:15.26 | ibot | herlo: okay |
| 16:15.45 | herlo | ~wedgie Shadowwire |
| 16:15.46 | ibot | ACTION hangs Shadowwire from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 16:16.59 | Shadowwire | nice. |
| 16:17.11 | Shadowwire | ~something anyone |
| 16:19.01 | herlo | ~findlay Shadowwire |
| 16:19.01 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps Shadowwire. |
| 16:19.07 | herlo | ~elg Shadowwire |
| 16:19.07 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps Shadowwire. |
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| 16:32.46 | klys | ~shadowwire me |
| 16:32.55 | klys | ~hit me |
| 16:32.55 | ibot | ACTION slaps klys. |
| 16:33.02 | Shadowwire | Sup klys. |
| 16:33.21 | Shadowwire | ~shadowwire anyone |
| 16:33.56 | klys | klys.onlinewebshop.net/desk005.jpeg |
| 16:35.23 | fozzmoo | What's that, klys? |
| 16:35.45 | kmini | what I'm typing to you with |
| 16:36.10 | fozzmoo | addd - The desktop environment for the attention-deficit disorder afflicted. |
| 16:36.35 | redbeard2 | klys: you're apparently a fan of lain? |
| 16:36.45 | kmini | yeah, I ownz it |
| 16:36.54 | fozzmoo | will someone translate that for me. |
| 16:37.41 | kmini | 10 11 12 6 7 8 9 4 5 6 vhs, 1 2 3 dvd |
| 16:37.50 | kmini | ownz |
| 16:37.55 | goozbach | herlo: pong |
| 16:38.01 | fozzmoo | goozbach: PING! |
| 16:38.08 | goozbach | fozzmoo: pong |
| 16:38.41 | fozzmoo | goozbach: You see the new Derricks?! |
| 16:38.52 | goozbach | haven't had time |
| 16:38.58 | herlo | goozbach: pm |
| 16:38.58 | goozbach | it's been too hand outside |
| 16:38.59 | fozzmoo | goozbach: you gottta. |
| 16:39.01 | kmini | so anyway, what's going down in the alleyway |
| 16:39.04 | fozzmoo | hand? |
| 16:39.09 | fozzmoo | You're getting too much hand? |
| 16:39.12 | fozzmoo | That's TMI! |
| 16:39.15 | herlo | fozzmoo: haha |
| 16:40.45 | ^Migs^ | klys, wtf is that? |
| 16:41.00 | ^Migs^ | how do you get anything done? |
| 16:41.03 | fozzmoo | ^Migs^: You don't like my theory? |
| 16:41.33 | ^Migs^ | that it's the ADD desktop? Makes perfect sense to me. |
| 16:41.41 | goozbach | is christer edwards in here? |
| 16:41.47 | goozbach | what's his handle? |
| 16:42.16 | fozzmoo | ~lart atoponce and his T61 |
| 16:42.16 | ibot | slaps atoponce and his T61 upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 16:42.31 | goozbach | mine isn't going to get here until after UTOSC |
| 16:42.36 | kmini | ^migs^: I have like 3 emacs instances |
| 16:42.40 | goozbach | sobs |
| 16:42.46 | goozbach | cries, a lot! |
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| 16:44.03 | kmini | man I lost my shadow |
| 16:44.27 | kmini | where he goes, it's his business |
| 16:46.15 | atoponce | fozzmoo: jealous? :) |
| 16:46.24 | fozzmoo | A little. |
| 16:46.29 | fozzmoo | atoponce: How's the battery? |
| 16:46.47 | atoponce | ~5 hours |
| 16:47.00 | fozzmoo | Okay. NOW I'm very jealous. |
| 16:47.16 | atoponce | apparently, i can apply a patch to the kernel, and get like 7, but i haven't attempted that yet |
| 16:47.19 | kmini | i^migs^: what do you have open anyway? |
| 16:47.21 | Tene | fozzmoo: I'm thinking of getting a T61p |
| 16:47.27 | fozzmoo | Tene: Me too, dammit. |
| 16:48.03 | fozzmoo | s/dammit/Tene/ |
| 16:48.11 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 16:48.25 | fozzmoo | I hate typos like that. |
| 16:48.30 | atoponce | does anyone know if amazon has an open api? |
| 16:48.45 | fozzmoo | atoponce: I think they do. |
| 16:50.34 | Shadowwire | Hey Klys, Teach Me more about Linux. |
| 16:50.44 | kmini | well, use fdisk |
| 16:50.58 | kmini | it runs on busybox ;) |
| 16:51.31 | kmini | seriously, what have you been installing? |
| 16:52.37 | kmini | nothing down the default reply was `info libc' |
| 16:57.04 | klys | shadowwire: did you ever install screen? just checking |
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| 17:00.09 | klys | sis boom bah |
| 17:00.10 | Shadowwire | I havnt played with my virtual machine or linux since i last talked with you. so, No. I had planned on installing LFS. |
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| 17:01.18 | klys | hmm, sound like a lot of compiling gcc and shtuph |
| 17:01.42 | klys | djgpp is good for that |
| 17:02.10 | Shadowwire | o.... k.... ? |
| 17:02.10 | klys | get a debian system and compile busybox, ther |
| 17:02.10 | klys | e |
| 17:02.22 | klys | it's a different c library, more limited |
| 17:02.54 | klys | well it runs on the limited c library |
| 17:03.11 | klys | so you can compile all the important programs at once, and boot them |
| 17:04.00 | Shadowwire | i have a meeting. Be back later. |
| 17:04.15 | klys | ciao |
| 17:07.09 | herlo | ~meeting Shadowwire |
| 17:07.14 | herlo | ~beat Shadowwire |
| 17:07.15 | ibot | ACTION beats Shadowwire with a very wet, sticky noodle |
| 17:07.57 | klys | tell me the best channel |
| 17:08.17 | fozzmoo | klys: Do you care about Perl? |
| 17:08.27 | klys | I have a couple of perl programs |
| 17:08.39 | fozzmoo | klys: You have better things to do, then. :) |
| 17:11.02 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, you *just* learned about it???? wow.. |
| 17:11.49 | klys | I've downloaded cpan before |
| 17:11.55 | Jayce^ | all of it? :) |
| 17:12.09 | klys | as much as the download process grabs |
| 17:12.23 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: Yes. I suck. |
| 17:13.16 | Jayce^ | I can lose more time in those channels that most any other means |
| 17:20.30 | ^Migs^ | please don't burn any ATMs |
| 17:21.38 | elg | i'm hurt Jayce^. You mean ibot can't keep you entertained as well as those perl freaks? |
| 17:21.51 | Jayce^ | no kidding, my new serenity 2-disc showed up today |
| 17:22.13 | klys | fozzmoo: what about all that email from cron? gach and those 5 partitions we all know you have |
| 17:22.40 | fozzmoo | gach? |
| 17:22.55 | klys | it get you? |
| 17:23.41 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: You'll have to let me/us know if it's got cool stuff on it. |
| 17:24.11 | klys | gach: general auch(also)nowledgement |
| 17:25.11 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, so far so good, just watched two bits on the new bonus disc |
| 17:28.24 | klys | it's german because it connotes annoyingly |
| 17:28.40 | klys | anyway what are you up to in perl? |
| 17:30.16 | fozzmoo | http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/197639.php |
| 17:30.24 | klys | k |
| 17:32.32 | kmini | perl? |
| 17:32.54 | ^Migs^ | omg |
| 17:32.56 | ^Migs^ | how horrible |
| 17:33.15 | ^Migs^ | I can't even number how many pictures of guns I doodled in school |
| 17:35.16 | klys | ^migs^: what's open |
| 17:37.52 | ^Migs^ | what's open what? |
| 17:38.02 | klys | on your desk, what's open |
| 17:38.16 | klys | out mof curiosity, looking for something cool |
| 17:38.25 | ^Migs^ | um |
| 17:38.28 | ^Migs^ | I have a coke can that's open |
| 17:38.38 | klys | ;) |
| 17:38.49 | ^Migs^ | a tube of gorilla glue is open |
| 17:38.55 | ^Migs^ | I have an open bag here |
| 17:38.58 | ^Migs^ | my legs are slightly open |
| 17:39.02 | klys | haha |
| 17:39.44 | klys | the bag was cool, is it printed or store junk |
| 17:40.16 | klys | j/k |
| 17:40.54 | klys | anyway, you have a desk right |
| 17:41.48 | klys | hmm, good for isos |
| 17:42.15 | klys | now go download knoppix |
| 17:42.32 | klys | man I should go to the library yet |
| 17:42.37 | fozzmoo | knoppix? |
| 17:42.42 | fozzmoo | I'm happy with Fedora, thanks. |
| 17:43.02 | klys | yeah, so you can still boot when your harddrive stops working |
| 17:43.04 | fozzmoo | I hear knoppix has a good livecd. |
| 17:43.18 | fozzmoo | But I've never encountered that problem. |
| 17:43.43 | klys | SeekComplete anywhere in your messages? |
| 17:43.51 | ^Migs^ | yes, I have a desk |
| 17:44.10 | klys | cool, with tools? |
| 17:45.45 | klys | yo I hear there are some nice buttons on ebay |
| 17:46.03 | klys | pssh |
| 17:47.09 | klys | there's one for the next screenhot: ebay advanced search in xulrunner |
| 17:47.43 | klys | s//s/ add s to all my ssh |
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| 18:49.25 | tensai | printer no likey power go out |
| 19:18.19 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5yiU9V3n9I |
| 19:26.01 | fozzmoo | That's cool! |
| 19:40.31 | fozzmoo | http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm |
| 19:41.12 | ^Migs^ | that's the kid from Heroes |
| 19:41.23 | ^Migs^ | he's pretty dang good |
| 19:41.37 | ^Migs^ | and that's saying much because I'm pretty dang awesome on the piano too |
| 19:47.03 | ^Migs^ | http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9764265-1.html |
| 19:48.16 | kmini | klys.onlinewebshop.net/desk006.jpeg |
| 19:48.32 | kmini | yeah, productivity |
| 19:48.52 | ^Migs^ | good grief |
| 19:49.07 | ^Migs^ | how do you get anything done with those tiny windows? |
| 19:49.34 | kmini | emacs, and ls, and cp, and mv, and... |
| 19:49.40 | kmini | irssi |
| 19:51.34 | kmini | and dc a little |
| 19:54.22 | kmini | oh, I learned about fmt -w | pr -W; earler |
| 20:20.27 | tensai | anybody know if SQL Server has an IP address data type like Postgres does? |
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| 20:24.34 | ^Migs^ | I don't think so |
| 20:24.44 | ^Migs^ | nor do I think any SQL db should |
| 20:25.18 | fozzmoo | What?! |
| 20:25.43 | fozzmoo | It's awesome. |
| 20:27.32 | Lakshmi | hey fozzmoo |
| 20:27.54 | fozzmoo | Lakshmi: Hey fair Indian princess of #utah |
| 20:28.19 | Lakshmi | sups? |
| 20:29.26 | fozzmoo | Just about ready to go home. The monkeys get out of school in an hour. |
| 20:29.45 | Lakshmi | haha nice nice |
| 20:46.04 | ^Migs^ | my kids must be bored at home. All their friends are in school, but they're not |
| 21:03.48 | Supaplex | they'll be bored again when they're the only ones in school to |
| 21:04.05 | Supaplex | tensai: I doubt it |
| 21:56.29 | Shadowwire | Anyone here ever heard of "office lock"? |
| 21:56.50 | Supaplex | only if it applies to activation |
| 21:57.03 | Shadowwire | No, its on a keyboard. |
| 21:57.12 | Shadowwire | A crappy keyboard that is. |
| 21:58.05 | Supaplex | fungus: ask for a substitution. maybe they have something else you can eat :) |
| 21:58.30 | Shadowwire | one of my users was having difficulty because the f keys wouldnt work. Turns out it was this crappy office lock key. |
| 21:58.40 | Shadowwire | ~eat fungus |
| 21:58.40 | ibot | ACTION eats fungus and falls over dead |
| 21:58.55 | fungus | ~eat Shadowwire |
| 21:58.55 | ibot | ACTION eats Shadowwire and falls over dead |
| 21:59.03 | Shadowwire | rats. |
| 21:59.12 | Shadowwire | ~drown klys |
| 21:59.12 | ibot | ACTION fills up the aqarium and explains in a Don Vito Corleone voice that klys will be swimming with the fishies |
| 22:03.29 | Shadowwire | ~drink something |
| 22:03.30 | ibot | drinks something in one swig, turns blue, green, and ultraviolet, and then vomits something across the room |
| 22:03.41 | Shadowwire | cool. |
| 22:05.23 | Shadowwire | ~crush klys |
| 22:05.23 | ibot | ACTION crushes klys with a full height scsi disk |
| 22:05.49 | Shadowwire | ~run klys |
| 22:05.57 | Shadowwire | guess not. |
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| 22:38.56 | Lakshmi | question people: if i have a computer that has vista can i switch it back to xp or do i have to keep the vista? |
| 22:40.09 | Shadowwire | You can switch or have both. |
| 22:40.43 | Shadowwire | Would you like more info? |
| 22:40.51 | Lakshmi | how can u run to operatin systems on one comp? |
| 22:40.53 | Lakshmi | and yes. |
| 22:41.38 | Shadowwire | Simply insert the Windows XP cd and install it. The you will be given the option of which one to boot when starting up. |
| 22:42.00 | Lakshmi | but like when i buy a new laptop |
| 22:42.04 | Lakshmi | it comes with vista already |
| 22:42.18 | Lakshmi | i can get rid fo that and install like my old xp on it right |
| 22:42.20 | Lakshmi | ? |
| 22:43.05 | Shadowwire | I would probably Wipe the disk and install whatever you prefer. |
| 22:43.39 | Shadowwire | aka, boot from the winxp cd and delete the partitions and start over. |
| 22:43.43 | Lakshmi | and the computer wont go crazy? |
| 22:43.50 | Tene | Why would it? |
| 22:44.03 | Shadowwire | not as long as you can find the drivers, which is easy. |
| 22:44.16 | Shadowwire | what brand of comp? |
| 22:44.20 | Tene | What's an operating system beyond bits stored on a disk? |
| 22:44.24 | Lakshmi | i want this lenovo thing |
| 22:44.33 | Lakshmi | my rents want me to get an hp or something or another. |
| 22:45.25 | Shadowwire | http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html great reading. |
| 22:46.11 | Tene | lenovo++ |
| 22:46.12 | Tene | srsly |
| 22:46.20 | Tene | My HP laptop has been a horrible pain. |
| 22:47.22 | Shadowwire | I have a dell. It works for what I do. (which is gaming/3dsmax/photoshop/mp3/etc) |
| 22:47.42 | Shadowwire | and it was relatively cheap. |
| 22:48.17 | Shadowwire | I wouldnt recoment an HP or Compaq |
| 22:48.29 | Lakshmi | why not? |
| 22:48.41 | Shadowwire | Cheap junk |
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| 22:49.03 | Lakshmi | yeah |
| 22:49.10 | Lakshmi | heard of lenovo or w.e it is? |
| 22:49.46 | Tene | Yeah, Lenovo is good. It's IBM's laptop division that split off to form their own company, oslt. |
| 22:49.49 | Tene | very good hardware. |
| 22:50.13 | maquis | at least the thinkpad line |
| 22:50.15 | Shadowwire | It looks like they just sell IBM thinkpads. |
| 22:50.24 | maquis | i don't trust the other line that i've seen in the store a few times |
| 22:50.28 | Shadowwire | Oh, I see. |
| 22:50.54 | Lakshmi | ooh me too. |
| 22:50.55 | Shadowwire | I've heard good things about the thinkpads. |
| 22:51.01 | Shadowwire | $$$ |
| 22:51.05 | maquis | Shadowwire: yes |
| 22:51.07 | maquis | unfortunately |
| 22:51.19 | Tene | maquis: any specific recommendations about thinkpad models, or whatever? |
| 22:51.37 | Shadowwire | I like the touch sensitive mouse thingy in the middle of the keyboard. |
| 22:51.50 | maquis | Tene: i have a T43 |
| 22:51.57 | maquis | it's wonderful |
| 22:52.05 | maquis | the one thing i'd keep an eye out for is the fan |
| 22:52.10 | maquis | that's the only part i've had any troubles with |
| 22:52.15 | Tene | *nod* |
| 22:52.30 | maquis | but it was warranty repair, so there wasn't even a problem with that |
| 22:52.30 | Shadowwire | Do you actualy set it on your lap verry often? |
| 22:52.34 | maquis | Shadowwire: sure |
| 22:52.41 | maquis | i'm crazy like that, though |
| 22:52.57 | maquis | he does run a little hot, though |
| 22:53.19 | maquis | although that's to be expected when i name him after a sun-god... |
| 22:53.26 | Shadowwire | I usualy set my "laptop" on a table or other surface when I use it bacause my lap blocks the fan port. |
| 22:53.40 | Tene | heh |
| 22:53.40 | maquis | Shadowwire: interesting |
| 22:53.49 | maquis | the thinkpad fan is on the left side of the box |
| 22:53.58 | Shadowwire | I have a large lap :) |
| 22:53.59 | maquis | so, it's usually not blocked by laps |
| 22:54.01 | Tene | I often put my laptop on top of a book or some other hard object when I use it on my lap. |
| 22:54.04 | Shadowwire | that is good |
| 22:54.05 | tensai | ~curse maquis |
| 22:54.06 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, maquis ! |
| 22:54.12 | maquis | tensai: why??? |
| 22:54.28 | Shadowwire | Ibot says some strange things... |
| 22:54.35 | maquis | ~curse tensai |
| 22:54.35 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, tensai ! |
| 22:54.42 | maquis | Shadowwire: that's the stranger one |
| 22:54.49 | Shadowwire | :) |
| 22:54.53 | tensai | maquis: um, maybe you're an infidel??? |
| 22:55.01 | maquis | me? what? |
| 22:55.07 | maquis | what'd i do? |
| 22:55.30 | maquis | tensai: are you jealous of my computer? |
| 22:55.35 | tensai | I don't know. you're the infidel. |
| 22:55.43 | Shadowwire | I think anyone who is'nt muslim is an infidel. |
| 22:55.58 | maquis | tensai: why? |
| 22:56.27 | tensai | haha! my secret plan to confuse maquis is working |
| 22:56.45 | Shadowwire | it didnt seem to difficult. |
| 22:56.52 | Shadowwire | :) |
| 22:57.17 | Shadowwire | Aw, stick arround. We'll be nice. |
| 23:03.58 | Shadowwire | Hmm.. I guess everyone left? |
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| 23:19.28 | Shadowwire | bye |
| 23:19.56 | levi | Good evening. |
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| 23:28.43 | bonez39 | if I want to rework a .tif image...would gimp work best, or would scribus, or inkscape ? ideas? |
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| 23:33.08 | levi | bonez39: It's a bitmap, so probably the gimp. |
| 23:33.37 | Tene | bonez39: probably gimp |
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| 23:38.27 | bonez39 | ok....if an image were created using Illustrator, would it normally be saved as a .tif to send to the printer |
| 23:39.42 | elg | no |
| 23:39.59 | elg | i don't know what outputs illustrator can do, but I'd hope it could do at least one reasonable vector format |
| 23:40.11 | elg | which could be rendered at the specific dpi for the printer |
| 23:42.02 | levi | I think it generally does eps |
| 23:42.03 | Supaplex | adobe might use something psd related (hazard a guess) |
| 23:48.01 | bonez39 | these images are a complex text layout..wi.th some graphics...but it's about very precise fine text layout....in specific regions on the printed card stock... |
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| 23:50.04 | goozbach | :) |
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