| 00:01.25 | vontrapp | anyone know good restaurants in nauvoo? |
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| 00:04.08 | Newsome | there's only 2-3 _in_ Nauvoo... |
| 00:04.54 | findlay | heh |
| 00:04.58 | vontrapp | is there a nice one? |
| 00:05.03 | Newsome | no |
| 00:05.10 | vontrapp | well that's no good |
| 00:05.18 | vontrapp | tis my anniversary tomorrow |
| 00:05.24 | vontrapp | and that's where we'll be |
| 00:06.17 | vontrapp | what about nearby? |
| 00:07.35 | beandog | Theres some big cities nearby |
| 00:07.38 | beandog | nauvoo is really tiny |
| 00:07.48 | Newsome | okay, so there are a few places right in Nauvoo where you could eat |
| 00:08.04 | Newsome | Hotel Nauvoo and Grandpa something's cafe |
| 00:08.44 | Newsome | and the town on the other side of the river has some decent stuff |
| 00:09.06 | Newsome | Fort Madison |
| 00:10.00 | Newsome | or south in Keokuk, IA |
| 00:15.12 | TimRiker | levi: much of Inferno is written in Limbo. how's that hit ya? |
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| 00:18.54 | vontrapp | stupid battery |
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| 00:56.07 | elg | anyone have advice for keeping lenses (specifically, swim goggles) from fogging? |
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| 01:18.43 | klys | smear it with grease? |
| 01:32.44 | Supaplex | add a plastic coating |
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| 01:34.18 | levi_home | elg: I think you can buy some anti-fog stuff. |
| 01:36.23 | elg | does it work? is it any more effective than other methods (conversely are there other methods that are cheaper and just as effective)? |
| 01:37.19 | levi_home | elg: I imagine it does. Spit is supposed to work, too. |
| 01:40.14 | levi_home | The intarwebs say to try putting toothpaste on and wiping it off. |
| 01:40.38 | elg | i'm going to try dish soap |
| 01:41.08 | levi_home | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070803122142AA1CZvu |
| 01:41.29 | levi_home | One suggestion is baby shampoo, which sounds wiser than dish soap. |
| 01:42.44 | levi_home | When I wear diving/snorkeling goggles, I leave a little bit of water in them to roll around and de-fog them. But that doesn't work so well for swimming goggles. |
| 01:43.58 | elg | hmm, shaving cream seems to be popping up too |
| 01:44.02 | elg | wonder if I have any |
| 01:45.09 | levi_home | Oh, hmm, in my earlier discussion of low-level programming languages, I neglected to mention Ada. |
| 01:47.39 | levi_home | It's certainly a viable alternative for embedded systems programming. |
| 01:52.39 | elg | shaving cream on the bathroom mirror seems to be a widely touted tip |
| 01:52.53 | elg | supposedly works for 3 weeks, so it ought to at least make it through a workout |
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| 01:56.55 | vontrapp | whatch out, toothpaste is abrasive |
| 01:57.03 | vontrapp | don't want to be scratching your goggles |
| 01:57.13 | vontrapp | i heard that toothpaste is good for damaged CDs |
| 02:00.05 | vontrapp | so nobody knows about restaurants in nauvoo, eh? |
| 02:00.08 | vontrapp | :( |
| 02:00.30 | linuxalien | Nopers |
| 02:00.30 | herlo | vontrapp: citysearch is always a great resource. I also like opentable.com |
| 02:00.35 | linuxalien | There should be guides online |
| 02:01.04 | herlo | vontrapp: I find most of the good restaurants I go to by using these sites. redbeard would argue for zagat.com, though I've not actually enrolled |
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| 02:46.51 | brailsmt | i'm looking for a new terminal... I've used Eterm for years and I like its features like screen intergration, extreme configurability, and pseudo-transparency... but its development seems to have stalled... |
| 02:47.00 | elg | xterm |
| 02:47.02 | brailsmt | anyone have any suggestions for a replacement? |
| 02:47.36 | brailsmt | xterm hase integration with screen? |
| 02:47.47 | elg | integration like what? |
| 02:47.54 | elg | xterm doesn't have most of those things. it just works |
| 02:49.18 | brailsmt | Eterm -U screen:///-RR <-- starts Eterm by attaching to or creating a screen session... has a nice little button bar displaying screen 'windows' |
| 02:49.45 | brailsmt | it can attach to screen sessions remotely through ssh as well.. |
| 02:50.11 | brailsmt | Eterm -U screen://voodoo/-RR <-- attach/create to screen session on voodoo, through ssh... |
| 02:52.03 | levi_home | Huh, I've never heard of a terminal doing that. |
| 02:52.17 | levi_home | I use gnome-terminal, which sucks a lot less than it used to. |
| 02:55.39 | elg | i actually use gnome terminal sometimes, when my desire for tabs outweighs my dislike for it |
| 02:56.49 | levi_home | I don't use it with tabs. I originally started using it because it antialiased its fonts and I could shut off the scroll bar and menu bar. |
| 02:57.44 | levi_home | It was ridiculously slow for a while, but it got a big speedup a little while ago. |
| 03:07.51 | Supaplex | I use konsole, but I've never heard of this screen intergration magic you speak of, until now. :) |
| 03:08.14 | fozzmoo | xterm -bg black -fg green |
| 03:09.18 | fozzmoo | I've written a script that launches my xterms for me... with hostname/username in the titlebars. |
| 03:10.04 | fozzmoo | I'd use Terminal or Konsole if I could launch new tabs from a shell script as well. |
| 03:10.31 | Supaplex | yes that'd be neat |
| 03:10.39 | atoponce | ++ |
| 03:10.45 | atoponce | bah |
| 03:10.56 | fozzmoo | ~smack atoponce |
| 03:10.57 | ibot | ACTION smacks atoponce upside the head. |
| 03:14.42 | levi_home | fozzmoo: Apparently you can open new tabs from the command line. |
| 03:14.48 | levi_home | in gnome-terminal, at least. |
| 03:14.55 | fozzmoo | Do tell. |
| 03:15.14 | fozzmoo | I'm not talking about Control+Shift+N if that's what you mean. :) |
| 03:15.33 | levi_home | You do gnome-terminal --tab |
| 03:15.49 | levi_home | It opens a new tab in the last opened window. |
| 03:15.59 | levi_home | do gnome-terminal --help for more options. |
| 03:16.08 | levi_home | You can also choose which profile the new tab uses. |
| 03:16.49 | fozzmoo | Doesn't seem to work on my machine. |
| 03:17.01 | fozzmoo | 'gnome-terminal --tab' just opens a new terminal window. |
| 03:18.01 | fozzmoo | Why doesn't gnome-terminal have a man page?! |
| 03:18.30 | Supaplex | nobody wanted to write it yet |
| 03:20.40 | fozzmoo | http://lwn.net/Articles/88161/ |
| 03:22.04 | Supaplex | that only took 7 hours to burn all those dvds. crazy. |
| 03:22.18 | levi_home | How many DVDs? |
| 03:23.07 | Supaplex | 39 (coasters included) |
| 03:23.41 | Supaplex | mkisofs -path-list wasn't so nice to me to begin with. and I forgot about inclding md5sums on the disc until I started automating it |
| 03:24.34 | fozzmoo | http://www.clune.org/linux/kde_hint.html |
| 03:25.45 | levi_home | fozzmoo: I guess you have to do it like: gnome-terminal --window --tab --tab --window |
| 03:26.32 | fozzmoo | weird. |
| 03:26.42 | levi_home | You have to open them all at once. |
| 03:26.49 | fozzmoo | That 'go' script above does what I want with Konsole. |
| 03:27.02 | fozzmoo | I'll have to work on integrating that into my 'fterm' script. |
| 03:29.11 | brailsmt | sounds like x11 terminals are a dieing breed... |
| 03:29.52 | levi_home | brailsmt: Why do you say that? |
| 03:31.10 | brailsmt | most of the ones i have looked at have not the websites updated since 2004-2005 |
| 03:36.03 | levi_home | Probably because most people are using KDE or Gnome, and the terminals that come with them are Good Enough for most people. |
| 03:37.48 | Supaplex | brailsmt: perlwm eh? ;) |
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| 03:38.14 | brailsmt | Supaplex: no, waimea |
| 03:38.26 | brailsmt | been using it for about 5 years |
| 03:38.37 | brailsmt | too lazy to try something else |
| 03:43.08 | levi_home | Desktops are one place where I like to stay in the mainstream, at least to some degree. |
| 03:43.48 | RyanE | does anyone know how to setup irssi to notify me when someone joins? |
| 03:44.35 | Supaplex | efnet #irssi is pretty good about irssi questions |
| 03:45.23 | RyanE | thx |
| 03:45.30 | herlo | ~lart RyanE |
| 03:45.30 | ibot | steals RyanE's mojo |
| 03:45.56 | RyanE | that's not nice! |
| 03:46.09 | RyanE | ~lart herlo |
| 03:46.09 | ibot | whacks herlo upside the head |
| 03:46.17 | herlo | ~herlo RyanE |
| 03:46.17 | ibot | ACTION pokes RyanE with a sharp needle |
| 03:46.23 | RyanE | ~herlo herlo |
| 03:46.24 | ibot | ACTION pokes herlo with a sharp needle |
| 03:46.32 | herlo | ~Zelut RyanE |
| 03:46.33 | ibot | ACTION preaches to RyanE from the book of Zelut. If RyanE doesn't get it, RyanE is beaten repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
| 03:46.58 | herlo | ~simpsons RyanE |
| 03:46.59 | ibot | ACTION sends RyanE chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 03:47.01 | RyanE | ~whaleslap herlo |
| 03:47.01 | ibot | ACTION beats herlo upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 03:47.10 | herlo | RyanE: I think there is an easy way to set that |
| 03:47.19 | herlo | ~whalepoo RyanE |
| 03:47.24 | herlo | ~whalepoop RyanE |
| 03:47.25 | ibot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at RyanE |
| 03:47.42 | RyanE | bzzzt. You lose. there is no whalepoo... :) |
| 03:48.05 | herlo | ~travolta RyanE |
| 03:48.05 | ibot | ACTION replaces RyanE with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 03:48.13 | RyanE | herlo: did you actually poke someone with a sharp needle at some point? |
| 03:48.35 | herlo | RyanE: no, not sure where that comes from |
| 03:52.34 | herlo | RyanE: are you thinking like a buddy pounce in Pidgin? |
| 03:54.54 | RyanE | yeah, that sort of thing. |
| 03:55.03 | RyanE | sorry, started reading about something else... |
| 03:57.50 | RyanE | I've switched over to irssi and bitlbee for IM and IRC, so I'm always 'online', but I'd like a notify when someone comes online in here... |
| 03:58.20 | nick125 | RyanE: There's a libnotify plugin for irssi, you might want to look at that. |
| 03:58.27 | nick125 | You may be able to modify it to do what you want it to. |
| 03:59.11 | RyanE | thanks |
| 04:10.16 | herlo | RyanE: I wrote a libnotify plugin that works over ssh |
| 04:11.26 | RyanE | herlo: cool. Is that posted somewhere, or languishing on your local machine? |
| 04:12.27 | herlo | RyanE: I think it available via svn on herlo.org |
| 04:12.51 | nick125 | herlo: You should use mercurial :p |
| 04:13.29 | herlo | nick125: I know |
| 04:13.35 | herlo | nick125: I plan on moving over too it very soon |
| 04:14.21 | nick125 | I thought the bugzilla plugin was really cool. |
| 04:14.53 | herlo | nick125: nice |
| 04:15.38 | nick125 | It will automagically update bugzilla when you commit if you note a bug number in the commit message. |
| 04:17.01 | herlo | RyanE: http://www.herlo.org/fnotify/ |
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| 04:18.32 | RyanE | thanks |
| 04:19.21 | herlo | RyanE: np, you might also be interested in my basht project. Its a bash based rss broadcatcher for rtorrent |
| 04:19.36 | herlo | RyanE: http://www.herlo.org/projects/basht |
| 04:19.53 | herlo | ~broadcatcher |
| 04:19.58 | RyanE | herlo: being I don't know what a broadcatcher is, I don't know... |
| 04:20.15 | nick125 | It'd be neat to write a commit notifer script that would push commits to everyone in a list. There would be a "client" that would authenticate with the "server" and it would receive the commit messages |
| 04:21.45 | herlo | nick125: how about an rss feed aggregator that would update the latest versions of selected applications. |
| 04:22.05 | nick125 | Or even make it so it can use the htdigest/users file to automatically associate users to projects |
| 04:22.19 | nick125 | That'd be interesting |
| 04:22.33 | herlo | RyanE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcatching |
| 04:23.21 | herlo | nick125: what is htdigest/users in this context? htdigest makes me think of an apache digest, but I don't even know what that is really |
| 04:23.48 | herlo | oh, right |
| 04:24.05 | nick125 | herlo: Well, in my mercurial setup, I have lighttpd set to authenticate mercurial push attempts against a htdigest file |
| 04:24.18 | herlo | nick125: never actually setup htdigest before. |
| 04:24.37 | nick125 | It's just a file with the username, realm, and the md5 password: |
| 04:24.44 | nick125 | username:realm:password |
| 04:24.47 | herlo | nick125: but I see what it would do. similar to .htpasswd, but encrypted |
| 04:25.05 | herlo | what is realm in this context? |
| 04:25.15 | nick125 | In my setup, I had it set to "Mercurial" |
| 04:25.59 | nick125 | This way, you have one database for authenticating mercurial logins and the notifier script |
| 04:26.03 | herlo | nick125: so it can be anything? |
| 04:26.16 | nick125 | herlo: Yeah, basically. |
| 04:26.44 | herlo | so It think authentication that way might be more appropriate |
| 04:27.33 | nick125 | I've been thinking of setting up a hosted mercurial service |
| 04:28.28 | herlo | nick125: that'd be cool |
| 04:28.47 | nick125 | Kind of like sourceforge, except much smaller scaled |
| 04:28.56 | herlo | right |
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| 06:33.18 | findlay | this is why online music stores still don't work: http://www.mp3sparks.com/search.shtml?search=karajan&x=6&y=17&sg=1&sa=1&ss=1&result=ON&range=all&searchaud=yes&rezult=ON |
| 06:34.25 | findlay | from a man who conducted 60 out of 80 years of his life and has a collected discography of unique recordings at somewhere around 700-900 CDs worth that does much to discourage me |
| 06:35.51 | RyanE | woo hoo! 16 results! |
| 06:36.58 | RyanE | findlay: I first read that as that *you* had conducted 60 of your 80 years of life... Here I was thinking you were not that ancient. |
| 06:37.23 | findlay | heh |
| 06:37.46 | findlay | yeah, I've only had a chance at 26 years |
| 06:38.47 | RyanE | Yeah, I remember 26. That was 5 kids and two houses ago. :) |
| 06:39.03 | RyanE | and 5 jobs... |
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| 07:26.16 | findlay | something tells me I'll have more than 5 jobs between now and the time I graduate :) |
| 07:28.10 | RyanE | no doubt. I'm pretty sure I've got at least another 5 (jobs, not kids!) to go. |
| 07:28.33 | RyanE | 'night. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... |
| 07:28.39 | findlay | later |
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| 13:33.26 | elg | did they leave it on your doorstep? |
| 13:38.03 | sjansen | Of course not! I always ship stuff to the GL office. |
| 13:45.14 | sinuhe | sjansen: So you ordered one, too, eh? I imagine I still have another week before mine gets in. |
| 13:49.31 | goozbach | sinuhe: what did you order? |
| 13:51.19 | elg | drat. I was going to have a lackey make a trip up to sjansen's house |
| 13:55.29 | sinuhe | goozbach: 2 t61p thinkpads. |
| 13:58.15 | sinuhe | Apparently, rms was giving a lecture yesterday in Peru. |
| 13:58.20 | goozbach | sinuhe: TWO of them? |
| 13:58.23 | goozbach | geez |
| 13:58.34 | goozbach | I just lived with maxing out one |
| 13:59.14 | sinuhe | goozbach: Are you kidding? My wife would *kill* me if even *thought* of getting a cooler gadget than her. (Plus, her current laptop has died: DVD and monitor are unusable.) |
| 13:59.27 | sinuhe | s/even/I even/ |
| 14:01.39 | sinuhe | goozbach: I remember when you ordered yours. The moment it released you were scrambling to the lenovo website. |
| 14:05.22 | goozbach | I canceled it and re-ordered since then |
| 14:11.04 | sinuhe | Me, too. The first order my wife grabbed the mouse from my hands, starting clicking all the biggest options, and then clicked order. Sigh. |
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| 14:12.00 | Shadowwire | Good morning. |
| 14:14.34 | sinuhe | I compromized by selecting *most* of the biggest options in the follow order. :-) |
| 14:19.01 | ^Migs^ | hahahahaha http://youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is |
| 14:29.10 | maquis | what makes the t61p so great? |
| 14:30.56 | elg | paperclips |
| 14:31.28 | maquis | ooh... nvidia instead of ATI! |
| 14:32.27 | maquis | and they're still using IPW... that's good |
| 14:32.33 | maquis | that has good support |
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| 14:36.23 | maquis | bah... now you're making me want to dump my money into them again |
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| 14:54.57 | sjansen | maquis: You missed WUXGA (1920x1200) and hardware virtualization support |
| 14:55.07 | maquis | ah |
| 14:55.39 | sjansen | The T61 has been out for awhile, but that tiny little "p" means WUXGA. |
| 14:56.14 | maquis | nice |
| 14:56.33 | sjansen | The only down side is the large screen can't be powered by an Intel video card. Otherwise it would've been the perfect machine. But I've put up with nVidia this long, I guess I can a little longer. |
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| 15:39.53 | levi | Ooh, someone warezed the Lisp Machine operating system and another person wrote an emulator. |
| 15:40.27 | levi | Well, the Genera OS. The MIT Lisp Machine sources are open, and there's an emulator for that, too. |
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| 15:46.23 | unum | I think that's how stallman got his start, was reverse engineering some sort of lisp machine |
| 15:47.09 | sjansen | Man, these are the funkiest cooked carrots and mashed potatoes I've ever had (if you can even call them that). |
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| 15:51.51 | elg | ~lart sjansen |
| 15:51.51 | ibot | beats sjansen to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 15:52.24 | sjansen | ~quote scox |
| 15:58.00 | levi | This is kind of amusing: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/will/Ephemera/richterFAQ.html |
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| 16:07.00 | levi | unum: He wasn't reverse engineering it. He was at MIT hacking on it legitimately. |
| 16:07.45 | levi | unum: However, he did reverse-engineer some of Genera's features to put them in MIT and LMI's Lisp Machines later on after LMI and Symbolics spun off from the AI Lab. |
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| 16:20.42 | ^Migs^ | you and I have very different definitions of "amusing." |
| 16:20.58 | ^Migs^ | I find someone getting accidentally taking a blow to the crotch amusing. |
| 16:21.26 | sjansen | levi: wow |
| 16:31.05 | levi | sjansen: Which thing are you wowing about? |
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| 16:31.20 | sjansen | the FAQ of course |
| 16:31.57 | levi | We'll have to watch elgs sanity closely, to ensure that he doesn't end up like that guy once he gets his PhD. |
| 16:36.55 | levi | sjansen: Did you see the link I mentioned yesterday about PreScheme? |
| 16:39.01 | sjansen | I did. Did you see TimRiker's comment? |
| 16:43.21 | elg | what guy? who is less sane than me? |
| 16:44.38 | Tene | levi: awesome |
| 16:45.04 | levi | sjansen: Nope. |
| 16:45.21 | levi | elg: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/will/Ephemera/richterFAQ.html |
| 16:48.58 | levi | Ahh, Inferno and Limbo. |
| 16:52.32 | elg | see, that would never be me. if I failed to get a job for numerous years in my field, I'd go be a chef or teach flying or something |
| 16:52.35 | levi | Limbo is a nifty language, but only really applicable if you're using Inferno. |
| 16:52.54 | levi | elg: Unless you went insane, that is. |
| 16:53.01 | elg | hmm, good point |
| 16:53.15 | elg | luckily I don't have to take *that much* math |
| 16:53.18 | levi | Thus the need for watchful friends! |
| 16:53.35 | levi | We'll make sure that if you go insane, you don't embarrass us all., |
| 16:53.49 | elg | ~crazy sjansen |
| 16:53.49 | ibot | ACTION drives sjansen insane by saying the exact same thing over and over |
| 16:55.56 | levi | Limbo looks like it has roughly the expressive power of C, but with a lot of C's worst warts removed and some excellent parallel programming stuff integrated. |
| 16:57.11 | levi | At least it has lists, arrays, strings, and tuples. |
| 16:59.25 | levi | A sane module system, a Pascal-like assignment operator, |
| 17:00.01 | levi | No enum, though. |
| 17:05.19 | levi | Anyway, definitely looks like a step up from C, but it eschews the powerful C++ features and requires a runtime system. |
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| 17:33.02 | aldaek | is there a way to stop ubuntu 7.04 from crawling through i/o errors on the partitioner part of install? |
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| 17:37.01 | Supaplex | buy a new harddrive? |
| 17:38.13 | aldaek | i have two other drives in the system one of which i will use, not the one giving i/o errors |
| 17:38.33 | aldaek | is there no way to skip that drive other than pulling the power from it? |
| 17:38.58 | Supaplex | maybe. disable it in the bios |
| 17:39.30 | aldaek | basically, disable it during install... then? |
| 17:40.32 | Supaplex | yup |
| 17:41.59 | aldaek | sigh, i cannot wait until the SSD come out bigger and cheaper... especially the current 32G cheaper |
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| 17:53.32 | brando1 | any utosc organizers active? |
| 17:53.45 | Jayce^ | bbeattie, yeah |
| 17:53.55 | Jayce^ | card-carrying LDS... |
| 17:54.01 | Jayce^ | oh, you meant just in the channel :-p |
| 17:54.26 | bbeattie | :) |
| 17:55.47 | Jayce^ | what do you need from utosc? |
| 17:56.05 | Jayce^ | before I head out to lunch |
| 17:56.12 | Supaplex | anyone working at convergys on the juniper project? |
| 17:56.45 | elg | convergys is populating jupiter with call centers? |
| 17:56.49 | elg | oh, juniper |
| 17:57.17 | bbeattie | Gabriel is trying to pin me down for a date to present on Myth. I looked at the schedule but most seem company/business related (the topics that is) and I'm wondering if I should stick just to myth for the ?50? minute presentation or go more into home media/automation. The other question is if it's a product demo you're looking for, howto use it, howto get it working, or exactly what. |
| 17:59.29 | Jayce^ | well, there are tech, community, and business tracks |
| 17:59.47 | Jayce^ | you'll be categorized depending on the audience you want to reach (your subject) |
| 18:01.34 | bbeattie | .. I can do any really, Gabriel said you guys wanted me to do myth which is fine with me. I just want to know if I should stick just to myth and what type of talk would work best for the conference. |
| 18:02.36 | Jayce^ | well, we are targetting bringing geeks and businessfolk together, so it would be good to try to draw your average businessman/family person in |
| 18:02.44 | Jayce^ | tease them with just how much open source can do for them |
| 18:03.45 | bbeattie | demo of what it can do or software/guts talk? (aka big words to make business people think and big words for geeks to awe at? ) |
| 18:04.54 | bbeattie | .. anyway to get a poll on if I should do just myth or whole home media with mythtv, and supporting apps? |
| 18:06.26 | Jayce^ | pretty sure whole home media with mythtv, eye-candy, and practical usage at home or office :) |
| 18:08.27 | bbeattie | k |
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| 18:24.54 | beandog | myth has lots of practical uses at work! |
| 18:24.59 | beandog | :) |
| 18:25.47 | bbeattie | depends on what you do for work... babysitting, yes. ;) |
| 18:26.47 | Supaplex | :) |
| 18:29.20 | beandog | bbeattie: pm |
| 18:30.29 | bbeattie | beandog: I sent a response, unless gaim is broken for me.. |
| 18:30.39 | beandog | bah |
| 18:30.40 | beandog | silly gaim. |
| 18:31.29 | beandog | bbeattie: you on aim? |
| 18:31.31 | sjansen | ~lart gaim |
| 18:31.31 | ibot | beats gaim to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 18:31.35 | beandog | or jabber |
| 18:31.41 | bbeattie | I am |
| 18:31.52 | bbeattie | morphideous |
| 18:32.06 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for content free discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 - https://register.utosc.org | Novell pwns SCO | for great fun: ~quote scox | do not taunt happy fun ball |
| 18:32.55 | bbeattie | ~quote scox |
| 18:33.11 | bbeattie | ooh, they're up a cent. |
| 18:33.28 | beandog | buy, buy, buy! |
| 18:34.36 | Supaplex | they were .44 yesterday |
| 18:35.04 | Supaplex | they should have shot themself with it ;) |
| 18:35.48 | Supaplex | I still have a pdf of a sco site defacement. "We own all your code" |
| 18:47.30 | beandog | yah? |
| 18:47.33 | beandog | I wanna see |
| 18:47.33 | beandog | :D |
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| 18:51.59 | Sargun | Hey hey. |
| 18:59.42 | Shadowwire | The BARN |
| 18:59.43 | Shadowwire | A New York man retired. He wanted to use his retirement money wisely, so it would last, and decided to buy a home and a few acres in Portugal. |
| 18:59.43 | Shadowwire | The modest farmhouse had been vacant for 15 yrs.; the owner and wife both had died, and there were no heirs. |
| 18:59.43 | Shadowwire | The house was sold to pay taxes. |
| 18:59.43 | Shadowwire | There had been several lookers, but the large barn had steel doors, and they had been welded shut. Nobody wanted to go to the extra expense to see what was in the barn, and it wasn't complimentary to the property anyway......so, nobody made an offer on the place. |
| 18:59.46 | Shadowwire | The NY guy bought it at just over half of the property's worth, moved in, and set about to tear in to the barn.......curiosity was killing him.. |
| 18:59.49 | Shadowwire | So, he and his wife bought a generator, and a couple of grinders.......and cut thru the welds. |
| 18:59.51 | Shadowwire | What was in the barn...............? |
| 18:59.53 | Shadowwire | G o to; www.intuh.net/barnfinds/afa70.htm and start wishing it you had bought the place. |
| 18:59.55 | Shadowwire | ops. |
| 19:00.36 | Sargun | Uranium? |
| 19:00.53 | Sargun | pitchblende? |
| 19:01.21 | Sargun | http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/afa4.htm |
| 19:01.23 | Sargun | or that.. |
| 19:01.34 | Sargun | http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/afa6.htm |
| 19:01.53 | Sargun | holy crap |
| 19:04.24 | goozbach | Shadowwire: where did you dig up this story? |
| 19:06.37 | Sargun | Google |
| 19:06.42 | Sargun | in a hole? |
| 19:15.07 | sjansen | I think I saw something like it on Digg a few months ago. |
| 19:18.21 | RyanE | http://www.snopes.com/photos/automobiles/barnfind.asp |
| 19:18.54 | levi | Shadowwire: My wife got that email a while ago. |
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| 20:50.54 | Tene | http://atomicwang.org/motherfucker/Index/E06C66BF-E7D5-48FF-9F7C-E6AD1B3F8F28.html -- interesting |
| 20:51.26 | findlay | looks like a jumble of letters and numbers to me |
| 20:51.31 | findlay | and som profanity |
| 20:51.47 | findlay | s//e/g |
| 20:52.04 | Tene | You forgot to dereference the url first, findlay. |
| 20:52.13 | findlay | aw, I 'm too lazy |
| 20:52.36 | Tene | Are you suggesting that I should copy/paste the entire article in here, letter-by-letter? |
| 20:52.40 | findlay | yes |
| 20:52.44 | Tene | That's what I thought. |
| 20:53.02 | findlay | perhaps you can anylize it for us |
| 20:54.45 | Tene | Perhaps you have run out of letters and want me to share some of mine with you. |
| 20:55.27 | findlay | yeah, I don't get letters anymore |
| 20:55.41 | findlay | they're either for my roomate, or they're spam, or both |
| 20:56.11 | fozzmoo | I sincerely can't stand insincerity. |
| 20:56.17 | bonez39 | honestly? |
| 20:56.28 | fozzmoo | no, I'm just blabbing. |
| 20:56.55 | Tene | I know that I tend to admire people who are more sincere. |
| 20:57.21 | findlay | is that why they call you Tene? |
| 20:58.14 | Tene | Eh? |
| 20:58.23 | findlay | because? |
| 20:59.23 | Tene | What does that have to do with whaT? |
| 20:59.42 | findlay | um, no? |
| 20:59.56 | Tene | ~sinuhe findlay |
| 20:59.56 | ibot | ACTION describes all the benefits of GNU*PLUS*Linux to findlay |
| 21:00.07 | findlay | yes maybe? |
| 21:00.18 | levi | ~levi findlay |
| 21:00.19 | ibot | ACTION gives findlay a hovercraft and then fills it with eels! |
| 21:00.19 | findlay | I'm on 3rd? |
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| 21:09.04 | bonez39 | any suggestions on a great O'Reilly publication on DNS....administration and understanding? |
| 21:15.11 | herlo | goozbach: ping |
| 21:20.41 | Tene | http://weblogs.asp.net/alex_papadimoulis/archive/2005/05/25/408925.aspx |
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| 21:34.44 | tensai | Tene: so which do you choose, the shoe or the bottle? |
| 21:35.10 | Tene | tensai: real men pound nails in with their fists or their faces. |
| 21:46.50 | unum | isn't that the guy that does worsethanfailure |
| 21:46.54 | Tene | Yes. |
| 21:47.44 | unum | I like that site. I didn't realize he had a seperate blog |
| 21:52.03 | tensai | ~lart google |
| 21:52.03 | ibot | cuts off google's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 21:52.16 | tensai | stupid gmail doesn't work well with greylisting |
| 21:53.14 | unum | ya it comes from a different server everytime |
| 21:53.24 | unum | it's take me over a day to get mail from them sometimes |
| 21:54.39 | tensai | my mom's email bounced. weird thing is I have *.google.com exempted in greylistd, but for some reason it didn't work. |
| 21:55.14 | unum | are the servers google or gmail? |
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| 22:11.43 | Tene | http://www.wgz.org/chromatic/projects/emperor/lolknuth.jpg |
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| 22:15.06 | tensai | unum: reverse dns is fk-out-0910.google.com, etc. |
| 22:15.27 | unum | hmm interesting |
| 22:20.22 | levi | Ugh, headache. |
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| 22:33.50 | tensai | this is a great posting to NANOG |
| 22:33.56 | tensai | "Hi, I try adding google.com to my dns server to get more visitors but google.com still show search engine. Please advise how to do so more visitor in return? May the Gods be with you!" |
| 22:35.25 | Tene | What is NANOG? |
| 22:40.19 | herlo | Tene: Ganon backward |
| 22:48.40 | tensai | north american network operators group |
| 22:49.31 | findlay | not amazing nerds on grass |
| 22:53.09 | findlay | I love how ubuntu has this shiny progress bar booting up so that it conveniently hides the kernel panic from me |
| 22:53.48 | Supaplex | ubuntu, Africian for Debian is too stable and plain |
| 22:54.24 | herlo | what's Africian? |
| 22:55.39 | Supaplex | a typo/bad spelling of African |
| 22:55.47 | herlo | :) |
| 22:56.51 | unum | speaking of ubuntu do people still run ftp? |
| 22:57.06 | unum | I refuse to do it I tell everyone to get an sftp/scp client |
| 22:57.30 | sontek | unum: ftp is very nice when you are sharing files that don't need to be secure with friends |
| 22:57.32 | Supaplex | I might start charging an extra $10/mo for those that do. |
| 22:57.34 | sontek | unum: a lot faster |
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| 22:58.27 | unum | sontek: I'm not worried about the files |
| 22:58.46 | unum | I'm worried about someone I don't know having a prompt on my machine |
| 22:59.59 | unum | I use http if I want to distribute a file |
| 23:01.02 | Tene | unum: ftp is only goot for anonymous public access these days. |
| 23:01.06 | Tene | s/goot/good/ |
| 23:01.33 | unum | if that's what I'm doing I'll just use http |
| 23:01.44 | Tene | *nod* |
| 23:02.12 | Tene | ftp isn't good for anything else these days, but some people still use/provide it. |
| 23:02.38 | unum | I think a lot of isp's still have people upload to their websites with it |
| 23:03.06 | unum | my work actually uses it. I tried to get my boss to switch to http-auth |
| 23:04.08 | unum | me and an other fslc member(he was vice president when I was president) used to argue about ftp on the mailing list once a year |
| 23:07.00 | Tene | What did he say about ftp? |
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| 23:12.15 | unum | he argued that it was as secure as webdav and other alternatives if properly configured with out the hassle of having to install an sftp client |
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| 23:16.24 | beandog | hmm |
| 23:16.30 | beandog | makes me wanna run a telnetd just for the fun of it |
| 23:27.06 | findlay | and thus, he got h4x0red offline |
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| 23:47.21 | elg | heh, this is a weird exchange |
| 23:47.24 | elg | I'll paraphrase |
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| 23:48.20 | elg | funny guy in his 40s or 50s who's from silicon valley and lives in the middle of nowhere in the new mexico desert now (by a lake though), gets into rails and looks for others and the closest person by far is me |
| 23:48.33 | elg | so comes to meet me, we have a nice talk |
| 23:49.21 | elg | emails me with a ruby question. not very good at communicating by email, so I'm not sure exactly what his question is, but I think it's basically that he wants to populate his databases for his bazillion almost-the-same sites with fake information |
| 23:50.18 | elg | I reply saying that it looks like you can do that easily with rails fixtures. all you have to do is create the fixture YAML file and in the odd case where the schemas are incompatible take 5 minutes to write a translator |
| 23:50.32 | elg | and his reply, which again I have a hard time deciphering, |
| 23:50.37 | elg | I feel so awkward reading your reply. You're a fine man and I wish you well, but feel you should stay in the academic world where lofty ideas are never tainted with pragmatism. |
| 23:50.41 | elg | </quote> |
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| 23:51.16 | elg | i can't tell if that's a compliment or if he thinks my idea is not pragmatic |
| 23:51.32 | elg | or maybe because I didn't take him up on the offer to "get in on the ground floor" and code it up for him |
| 23:52.16 | elg | i've seen and been involved with enough dreamers and startups, thanks. not my cup of tea. I'm more of a one fairly-secure step at a time guy |
| 23:55.38 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 23:55.42 | atoponce | RMS is missing |
| 23:59.17 | elg | missing? |
| 23:59.26 | elg | as in lost in the himalayas or kidnapped? |
| 23:59.59 | atoponce | yeah. there was an earthquake in peru, and he was traveling with mario ramos from lima to chimbote yesterday and no one has heard of him since |
