| 00:00.19 | Supaplex | near the printing or admin building or something? kinda close to the applebees? |
| 00:00.38 | findlay | the roundabout up on top |
| 00:00.46 | Supaplex | k |
| 00:02.54 | findlay | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=uvsc&sll=40.334355,-111.56997&sspn=0.528649,0.928345&ie=UTF8&ll=40.276563,-111.706656&spn=0.002067,0.003626&t=h&z=18&om=1 |
| 00:03.11 | findlay | that's looking right on the spot |
| 00:03.24 | Supaplex | gmta. I had http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=iceweasel-a&q=uvsc&near=Orem,+UT&fb=1&view=map&cd=1&hl=en&ll=40.275842,-111.713018&spn=0.015225,0.032959&z=16&om=1 |
| 00:03.51 | herlo | holy crap, have u guys not heard of tinyurl? |
| 00:04.15 | findlay | whatever |
| 00:04.25 | findlay | L) |
| 00:04.30 | findlay | s/L/:/g |
| 00:04.35 | herlo | ~lart findlay |
| 00:04.35 | ibot | installs a bad bootloader on findlay and turns findlay into a brick |
| 00:04.37 | Supaplex | no google hasn't >:) |
| 00:05.01 | herlo | Supaplex: you can get ff to do it for u |
| 00:05.29 | findlay | http://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com/wearejustdoingthistobestupidnowsincethiscangoonforeverandeverandeverbutitstilllookskindaneatinthebrowsereventhoughitsabigwasteoftimeandenergyandhasnorealpointbutwehadtodoitanyways.htmlhttp://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com/wearejustdoingthistobestupidnowsincethiscangoonforeverandeverandeverbutitstilllookskindaneatinthebrowsereventhoughitsabigwasteoft |
| 00:05.47 | Supaplex | hahahaaaaa |
| 00:06.07 | findlay | looks like it got in twice somehow |
| 00:06.09 | findlay | oh well |
| 00:06.30 | Supaplex | so just north of that chapel |
| 00:06.47 | findlay | yup |
| 00:07.28 | Supaplex | awesome |
| 00:07.37 | Supaplex | ~findlay++ |
| 00:07.55 | findlay | Jayce^: ping |
| 00:08.34 | findlay | interactive maps have really transformed the way we use cartography |
| 00:08.57 | findlay | it's so much easier to paste an ugly URL than to have to write down directions |
| 00:09.09 | Supaplex | 'eyup |
| 00:10.06 | findlay | Supaplex: the one I picked up looked heavily sprinkled from irrigation even though it was 2 m back from the grass |
| 00:11.33 | Supaplex | I'll be sure to dry em out. :P |
| 00:13.13 | elg | who wants to make $2 |
| 00:13.31 | Supaplex | what's involved? |
| 00:13.38 | Supaplex | gimmie? ;) |
| 00:14.18 | herlo | Supaplex: geocaching? |
| 00:14.20 | findlay | nah, I've seen $2 before |
| 00:14.29 | vontrapp | ~lart elg for two dollars |
| 00:14.29 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at elg for two dollars |
| 00:14.30 | elg | I need some instant yeast |
| 00:14.41 | elg | no stores here have it |
| 00:14.43 | herlo | elg: Iwant my $2 |
| 00:14.57 | vontrapp | two dollars...! |
| 00:14.58 | elg | so one of you buys instant yeast and sends it to me, and you make $2 profit |
| 00:15.22 | herlo | elg: in the mail? |
| 00:15.31 | herlo | where r u? |
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| 00:15.45 | elg | las cruces, nm |
| 00:15.59 | herlo | ~lart Lakshmi |
| 00:15.59 | ibot | beats Lakshmi to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 00:16.13 | herlo | elg: whatre u doingthere? |
| 00:16.14 | Lakshmi | herlo: uh why? |
| 00:16.26 | herlo | Lakshmi: in the way |
| 00:16.35 | elg | you can get instant yeast a number of places in utah valley, but I know the bosch place in orem carries it for sure |
| 00:16.37 | elg | saf red instant |
| 00:16.41 | elg | 1 lb |
| 00:16.46 | Lakshmi | herlo: in the way of what? |
| 00:16.48 | elg | i'm going to school at nmsu |
| 00:17.05 | herlo | elg: Im not in Utah much |
| 00:17.18 | herlo | currently in boston area |
| 00:17.31 | elg | well any big city should have a restaurant supply store or some sort of place that would carry it |
| 00:17.34 | herlo | next wk is vegas, then silicon vally |
| 00:18.04 | elg | http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/detail.jsp?id=1458 |
| 00:18.12 | findlay | I know |
| 00:18.32 | findlay | herlo: you can buy a 1 lb-payload rocket! |
| 00:18.47 | herlo | findlay: where? |
| 00:19.04 | findlay | confiscate one from MIT's rocket science department |
| 00:19.22 | findlay | pretend you're DHS |
| 00:19.39 | Supaplex | ~be DHS |
| 00:20.00 | herlo | findlay: u should have told me. two guys in my class work there. today was their last day |
| 00:20.16 | Zelut | Jayce^: ping |
| 00:20.39 | herlo | though they r actually based out of vegas |
| 00:20.42 | Supaplex | ~pulse Jayce^ |
| 00:20.46 | herlo | somehow |
| 00:21.01 | findlay | tell them the that it's a National Security(R) matter and that you need to initiate the leven in the Southwest |
| 00:21.25 | Supaplex | that's so plausable to |
| 00:21.41 | findlay | by rocketing a 1 lb packet of fungus into the desert floor |
| 00:22.04 | herlo | heh |
| 00:22.06 | Supaplex | I'm sure Lonnie would scream |
| 00:22.24 | Supaplex | ~seen fungus |
| 00:22.27 | ibot | fungus <n=olsonl@mailhub.sosstaffing.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 34m 31s ago, saying: 'simple fix'. |
| 00:23.02 | findlay | and the supersecretly giving elg the lattitude and longitude so he can pick it up and use it to spawn his evil yeast army |
| 00:23.55 | herlo | meh |
| 00:24.11 | Supaplex | too simple huh? |
| 00:24.18 | sinuhe | herlo: reisling is good. As for Boston, did you stop by FSF? |
| 00:24.31 | findlay | what's resailing? |
| 00:25.03 | Supaplex | ~define resailing |
| 00:25.04 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 00:25.04 | herlo | findlay: reisling is wine |
| 00:25.09 | Supaplex | ~dict resailing |
| 00:25.13 | herlo | no |
| 00:25.17 | herlo | reisling |
| 00:25.22 | herlo | motards |
| 00:25.24 | Supaplex | ~typosmite findlay |
| 00:25.27 | findlay | resling |
| 00:25.33 | herlo | no |
| 00:25.34 | Supaplex | ~dict resling |
| 00:25.36 | herlo | tard |
| 00:25.38 | findlay | reslting |
| 00:25.42 | sinuhe | findlay: reisling is the most equisite of white wines. For me, it's one of the few whites I can stand. |
| 00:25.45 | Supaplex | ~dict reisling |
| 00:25.58 | findlay | rislang |
| 00:26.12 | findlay | aha! |
| 00:26.17 | findlay | it's herlo's new language |
| 00:26.20 | herlo | sinuhe: u like? |
| 00:26.22 | findlay | rislang! |
| 00:26.50 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.57 | findlay | he's just obfuscated it behind some ethanoic alcholol |
| 00:27.25 | herlo | one glass does not constitute obfuscation |
| 00:27.30 | findlay | heh |
| 00:27.59 | sinuhe | herlo: what is? |
| 00:28.12 | herlo | findlay: two or three, however, might |
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| 00:28.27 | herlo | sinuhe: white wine |
| 00:28.34 | nick125_treo | I can't believe this |
| 00:28.55 | nick125_treo | I just got my laptop back: they didn't fix the keyboard and now there's a big patch of rust |
| 00:29.05 | sinuhe | I'm really sad. Someone on the GNU list asked about a mail issue. When he said he didn't know what mail server he was using, I suggested he type ps ax. He asked what that was. Oh, dear. |
| 00:29.11 | nick125_treo | and they aren't answering their phone |
| 00:29.22 | sinuhe | herlo: my language is more along the lines of Scotch, Guinness, and Bordeaux. |
| 00:30.18 | herlo | sinuhe: I like guinness, especially in Ireland |
| 00:31.08 | sinuhe | herlo: Until a couple of years ago, Guinness only came from Ireland. Now, apparently, there's an African distributer. All Guinness sent here is from Ireland. I haven't had the pleasure of having it *in* Ireland, yet. |
| 00:34.51 | findlay | although from what I understand acetic acid is a more common product of fermentation than ethanoic alcohol |
| 00:35.51 | findlay | otherwise known as methanecarboxylic acid |
| 00:36.02 | findlay | or vulgarly as vinegar |
| 00:36.28 | findlay | ~lart me |
| 00:36.28 | ibot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps findlay |
| 00:36.32 | findlay | ouch |
| 00:36.56 | findlay | well, I deserved it |
| 00:36.56 | Supaplex | ~lart findlay again to take his mind off the cluebat |
| 00:36.56 | ibot | throws findlay again to take his mind off the cluebat's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 00:37.29 | Supaplex | hehe. nonsensical bot |
| 00:41.08 | vontrapp | ack, my sqlite databases are all comung up with default => "NULL" |
| 00:41.39 | vontrapp | but active record doesn't recognize a "NULL" as what sqlite seems to think it should be |
| 00:42.00 | Supaplex | oh-oh |
| 00:42.08 | vontrapp | is there a way to set the global default for string in activerecord? |
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| 00:52.48 | vontrapp | grr, when i do :default => "", i get :default => "''" |
| 00:52.56 | vontrapp | lame |
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| 01:05.35 | Supaplex | undef ? |
| 01:05.44 | nick125 | I'm soo tired of this. |
| 01:06.09 | Supaplex | ~bore nick125 |
| 01:06.09 | ibot | "nick125, here we are in the sausage factory; the sausages rest on the smoking racks before being cured..." |
| 01:06.21 | nick125 | I just got my laptop back - it now has a big patch of rust on it, missing rubber feet, keyboard still not fixed, red "paint" on the power supply. |
| 01:06.35 | Supaplex | compusa special? |
| 01:06.43 | nick125 | I guess. |
| 01:07.05 | nick125 | I talked to them, and they said it was cosmetic damage, and, they wern't going to fix it even though it was THEIR FAULT. |
| 01:07.33 | Supaplex | wow. a$$hats inc. |
| 01:08.17 | nick125 | They told me they wouldn't replace the rubber feet. |
| 01:08.42 | nick125 | And they told me that the entire fact that the screws are oxidized didn't mean anything. |
| 01:09.20 | Supaplex | just that standing in water while they were at lunch thing. |
| 01:09.30 | Supaplex | standard procedure for them? |
| 01:09.33 | nick125 | I guess. |
| 01:10.02 | nick125 | They said that the thing with the rust is my fault since it "looks old" (well, my laptop has been there for 8 weeks) |
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| 01:11.12 | Supaplex | for sure. |
| 01:16.45 | sinuhe | goozbach: Speaking of laptops, have you got yours, yet? |
| 01:18.53 | Supaplex | nick125: I'm the type that would be discussing it with the CC company to see what my other options are (come time for a chargeback+return) |
| 01:19.43 | nick125 | Supaplex: It was on a CompUSA credit card |
| 01:20.06 | Supaplex | nick125: any visa/mc logo on it? |
| 01:20.11 | nick125 | Supaplex: Nope |
| 01:26.11 | herlo | sinuhe: I actually knew that about Guinness. The guys at EMC where telling me about how in Africa, Guinness tasted different |
| 01:26.26 | herlo | sinuhe: they fixed the recipe and the Africans complained |
| 01:26.34 | herlo | something about the hops |
| 01:26.45 | herlo | anyway, I guess its all good |
| 01:31.20 | Supaplex | ~onjoin Supaplex (1|2|3|4|5) testing... |
| 01:31.20 | ibot | ok, Supaplex |
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| 01:31.32 | Supaplex | ~onjoin -Supaplex |
| 01:31.32 | ibot | ok, Supaplex |
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| 01:46.22 | maquis | stupid perl question: i've got a hash of array references, and i want to know how many items are in one of the arrays inside the hash. the hash is %info. |
| 01:46.39 | mrpull-x | the ventriliquist (sp?) on jeapordy is totally moving her lips |
| 01:46.40 | maquis | would the number of items in the array be: ${@{$info{'key'}}}? |
| 01:46.50 | maquis | ventriloquist, i think |
| 01:51.00 | mrpull-x | maquis: your perl looks right, but hurts my brain nonetheless |
| 01:51.13 | maquis | mrpull-x: cool |
| 01:51.14 | maquis | :) |
| 01:51.15 | maquis | thanks |
| 01:51.23 | maquis | i'm not really sure what i'm doing right now |
| 01:52.07 | mrpull-x | perl is simultaneously the best and worst thing in the world |
| 01:54.06 | sinuhe | herlo: I know that the African recipe is sweeter, but how is it fixed? |
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| 01:58.31 | herlo | sinuhe: apparently, the Irish came down and changed the hops. |
| 01:58.57 | herlo | sinuhe: but the Africans didn't like it. I think the guys said that it got changed back (recipe) |
| 02:01.28 | sinuhe | herlo: So the African recipe claims to be the original recipe and it was St James that changed it? So if I have a pint at the Hogs Wallow (near where I grew up), I'm having tainted Guinness? Or are the Africans smoking crack? |
| 02:02.11 | herlo | dunno |
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| 02:43.11 | mrpull-x | maquis: perhaps just mentioning harleypig or Jayce^ will make them appear |
| 02:43.38 | mrpull-x | maquis: what are you wrestling with? |
| 02:49.19 | elg | doesn't goozbach perl? |
| 02:49.23 | elg | invoke goozbach |
| 02:49.57 | elg | can anyone figure out what this guy is asking me? http://pastebin.com/dfd2b834 |
| 02:51.24 | mrpull-x | elg: was this guy's TLD some other country? |
| 02:52.10 | elg | no, a .com |
| 02:52.22 | elg | toombee.com. no website, so probably his own domain |
| 02:52.27 | mrpull-x | still doesn't read like english is his first language |
| 02:52.30 | elg | he goes by cownamedpuppy |
| 02:55.47 | elg | so for those following along at home, I did better with the brick oven tonight, but still needs improvement |
| 02:56.11 | elg | firstly, I need to curtail my exuberance and not put too big logs in there |
| 02:56.38 | mrpull-x | what do you bake in there? |
| 02:56.40 | elg | secondly, I think there's too many leaks. I'm going to need to restack the oven and use a mud mortar to seal up the cracks |
| 02:56.59 | mrpull-x | the only thing I know about brick oven is the over-rated BYU pizzaria |
| 02:57.01 | elg | thirdly, it really does make a difference to have a little fire going (not just coals) while doing pizza |
| 02:57.11 | elg | once I get it figured out I want to do bread too |
| 02:57.39 | mrpull-x | nick125: did they ship it somewhere humid? |
| 02:57.54 | nick125 | mrpull-x: I have no idea |
| 02:58.13 | nick125 | The screws in the bottom look like they had some water exposed to then |
| 02:58.16 | nick125 | *them |
| 02:58.20 | Supaplex | nick125: atleast one someone with a cranialrectal inversion >:-D |
| 02:59.58 | nick125 | My mother found out about this, and she called up CompUSA and told them that she wants to know where it was sent, She also threatened them saying she would file complaints with the BBB and Attorney General's office, and get an attorney to look into suing them for damages. |
| 03:02.36 | mrpull-x | it's hard for me to justify buying anything at compusa |
| 03:02.46 | mrpull-x | they dont add any value to me |
| 03:04.17 | elg | nick125: did they come to their senses? |
| 03:04.33 | nick125 | elg: They said they were going to call her back tomorrow as to where the laptop had been |
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| 03:11.44 | bonez41 | I run debian 3.1..and have xscreensaver 4.2 on this system...my son comes down and hits New Login on the dialogue..and launches his own session... is there a way to remove that New Login button from xscreensaver, or other screen savers that don't allow alternate login? |
| 03:12.37 | nick125 | bonez41: There might be a configuration option |
| 03:13.02 | bonez41 | nick125: I checked and couldn't find any options to alter the config for xscreensaver |
| 03:14.14 | vontrapp | disable multiple logins? |
| 03:15.26 | mrpull-x | easier... delete his account |
| 03:15.36 | nick125 | bonez41: Hmm...Here on gentoo, there is an USE flag called "new-login" that toggles that option |
| 03:15.43 | nick125 | I guess it must be compiled in. |
| 03:16.11 | nick125 | Yeah, it looks like it is. |
| 03:17.06 | nick125 | --[enable,disable]-login-manager |
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| 04:46.47 | Lars-UT | tristanbob: you there? |
| 04:47.02 | Lars-UT | tristanbob_: ping |
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| 05:05.58 | findlay | hello |
| 05:06.21 | linuxalien | Hewwo |
| 05:06.34 | findlay | ~hell linuxalien |
| 05:06.35 | ibot | ACTION stabs linuxalien with a pitchfork and dips him in flames |
| 05:06.42 | findlay | s/ll/llo/g |
| 05:06.52 | findlay | ~hello linuxalien |
| 05:07.13 | linuxalien | hehe |
| 05:11.06 | linuxalien | Just wanted to say hi |
| 05:11.08 | linuxalien | Night |
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| 05:30.06 | findlay | ~Lakshmi linuxalien |
| 05:30.06 | ibot | ACTION maxes out linuxalien's nick with underscores_____ |
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| 05:57.59 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 06:01.07 | levi_home | My myth box now has a working remote control. |
| 06:01.32 | levi_home | I'm going to have to fiddle with what window manager and video player I want to use, though. |
| 06:04.25 | fozzmoo | s/back/head/ |
| 06:04.29 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 06:05.04 | levi_home | All the TV stuff works correctly now, though some of the button assignments on the remote are a bit odd. |
| 06:05.33 | levi_home | It's just the video playback for my downloaded videos that's not working. |
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| 15:30.27 | levi | omh?! We do pseudo-swears in acronyms now, too? |
| 15:35.57 | Supaplex | someof us conviently didn't see ituntil now |
| 15:37.50 | levi | So, it turns out my remote that came with the htpc case I got works via the usbhid driver. Unfortunately, it sends keycodes through two different /dev/input/event devices. |
| 15:38.12 | levi | lircd can deal with that, but it took a while to figure it out. |
| 15:40.40 | Supaplex | hehe fun |
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| 15:48.26 | calvarez | hullo |
| 15:48.47 | levi | Yo. |
| 15:49.45 | Supaplex | salutations |
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| 16:14.12 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 16:14.12 | ibot | flings poo at elg |
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| 16:21.29 | calvarez | *OT* Pres. Faust passed away |
| 16:21.55 | calvarez | http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=c629cf04ebc44110VgnVCM100000176f620aRCRD&vgnextchannel=9ae411154963d010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD |
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| 16:28.31 | beandog | wow, crazy. |
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| 16:33.18 | levi | That's not crazy. This is crazy: http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/1ae60e0796b84010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html |
| 16:34.15 | beandog | he |
| 16:34.17 | beandog | nice. |
| 16:38.12 | levi | wtf? http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070809-us-pirate-party-seeks-legitimacy-starts-in-utah.html |
| 16:39.25 | Jayce^ | seems like we'd know whoever is starting it.. |
| 16:39.31 | Jayce^ | seems like they'd be in here... |
| 16:39.48 | beandog | arrr |
| 16:39.53 | levi | I guess we're more open to whack-job political parties here, since none of them pose any threat whatsoever to the establishment and everyone knows it. |
| 16:40.05 | beandog | lol |
| 16:40.51 | Jayce^ | the founder of the swedish party spoke at oscon, was actually really an interesting talk |
| 16:41.38 | beandog | cant trust those crazy swedes. |
| 16:41.40 | RyanE | I lean towards the Pirate Party, arrrrh! |
| 16:44.34 | tensai | they make some yummy meatballs though. mmm |
| 16:44.46 | Jayce^ | mmm, ikea... |
| 16:45.40 | herlo | Jayce^: that makes me hungry |
| 16:46.25 | RyanE | herlo: you ARE a swedish meatball, you goof. |
| 16:47.01 | herlo | RyanE: tx |
| 16:49.40 | levi | I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the food at IKEA. Of course, I wasn't expecting much. |
| 16:49.53 | elg | I have 3 out of the 4. I can't decide who else to pick. nobody else has any interest/experience in the field of computer music |
| 16:50.04 | levi | I still have a bunch of IKEA stuff I need to assemble. |
| 16:50.32 | elg | one guy has a strong stats background which could be useful, but I worry about him completing the basic tasks like reading my dissertation before las cruces freezes over |
| 16:50.34 | RyanE | yeah, I try to avoid going to IKEA. It's nothing but work, work, work for me. |
| 16:50.35 | Yorokobi | No expectations == No disappointments |
| 16:51.24 | levi | I was surprised at how heavy the bookshelves I bought were. |
| 16:51.24 | elg | heavy is good when it comes to furniture |
| 16:51.24 | Jayce^ | RyanE, agreed, both in assembly, and in the list of things that will be bought next time, and I have to work extra to be able to afford them |
| 16:51.24 | levi | elg: Indeed. |
| 16:51.24 | elg | until you go to move |
| 16:51.26 | Jayce^ | exactly |
| 16:51.27 | elg | :) |
| 16:51.49 | elg | any tk gurus here (and willing to admit it)? |
| 16:52.06 | RyanE | I'm smart enough about it to know that I should avoid it. |
| 16:52.11 | levi | My wife is now aquiring furniture at an astounding rate, and I think it's partially in an effort to ensure that we'll never be able to fit our stuff in a U-haul again. |
| 16:52.55 | elg | levi: does she know that's easier than you'd think? |
| 16:53.29 | levi | elg: We already didn't fit in the truck we got last time, and had to make a couple of extra trips with our Eurovan to get everything. |
| 16:53.39 | levi | And the trucks don't come much bigger... |
| 16:54.37 | RyanE | our last move was only 10 minutes away. Much more painful, because you then draw it out over about a lot of trips back to the old house. Death by a thousand cuts. |
| 16:54.50 | levi | Yeah. |
| 16:54.56 | elg | about a lot |
| 16:55.11 | RyanE | yeah, it's Friday. |
| 16:55.29 | levi | Mine was only a little farther, but we still bought a ton of boxes and almost got everything in the truck. |
| 16:56.02 | RyanE | I'm done moving, barring some pretty extenuating circumstances. |
| 16:56.03 | levi | Only had to make a couple of trips after moving the truck. |
| 16:56.32 | levi | I'm expecting I'll probably move a couple more times, but not for a few years. |
| 16:56.52 | Jayce^ | yeah, we keep talking ourselves out of moving.. too much work |
| 16:57.06 | fozzmoo | ~seen Tene |
| 16:57.30 | ibot | tene is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 17h 37m 54s, last said: 'yay!'. |
| 16:57.48 | RyanE | we've built two houses, and if it's not right, it's my own fault. |
| 16:58.19 | Jayce^ | RyanE, it's always your fault.. |
| 16:58.33 | RyanE | right that |
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| 17:06.32 | calvarez | oh boy I love how everything in MacOSX just "works" |
| 17:06.55 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 17:07.17 | calvarez | I like the ease of apt-get, but I also like how MacOSX .app bundles are so selfcontained |
| 17:08.40 | Jayce^ | there are a few things that try hard to make things difficult via plists and Library data :( |
| 17:08.43 | calvarez | I'm torn. I really like the ease of apt-get, but everything-in-one-place is a very nice alternative to putting a file in /usr/bin/, a folder in /usr/lib/, the config files in /etc/, etc. |
| 17:09.12 | Jayce^ | calvarez, you can also use fink |
| 17:09.21 | calvarez | yea, I installed it |
| 17:09.26 | calvarez | haven't used it yet though |
| 17:09.46 | calvarez | but it's the same thing, everything goes all spread out over /sw |
| 17:10.00 | calvarez | a file here, a folder there, config files over here, logs there, etc |
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| 17:11.17 | calvarez | sometimes you end up with versions 1.0, 1.2, 1.5, 1.5.1 and 1.5.1.2.3 of libwhatever.so in /usr/lib and some more in /usr/local/lib |
| 17:11.36 | calvarez | some symlinks point to this, some links pointing to that, etc |
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| 17:19.08 | Jayce^ | ayup |
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| 17:35.05 | Shadowwire | ~lart ibot |
| 17:35.05 | ibot | duct-tapes shadowwire to the floor and drools on him |
| 17:35.18 | Shadowwire | ~lart self |
| 17:35.18 | ibot | strangles self with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 17:35.34 | Zelut | **Ubuntu Utah Meeting on encryption tomorrow. Presented by atoponce - 6:00pm here: http://tinyurl.com/2v6mub** |
| 17:35.38 | Shadowwire | ~lart himself |
| 17:35.38 | ibot | eats himself's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 17:35.47 | Zelut | normally I'd spam the planet with that but our hosting is down on the site :( |
| 17:45.00 | moriancumer | Zelut: is that a residence or busness? |
| 17:45.51 | Zelut | moriancumer: business, Morris Murdock Travel bldg. |
| 17:46.01 | moriancumer | Zelut: thanx |
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| 18:05.20 | Yorokobi | ~onjoin -vontrapp |
| 18:05.20 | ibot | ok, Yorokobi |
| 18:05.50 | Yorokobi | ~onjoin vontrapp Kjd H.srav g; usglu ,dppw kjalv;e |
| 18:05.50 | ibot | ok, Yorokobi |
| 18:13.37 | Shadowwire | Anyone know of a good ISO reader that is free. |
| 18:13.58 | tensai | mount -o loop ? |
| 18:15.10 | mrpull | Shadowwire: what platform? |
| 18:27.07 | atoponce | 'Kjd H.srav g; usglu ,dppw kjalv;e' to qwerty: Vch Je;oa. uz f;upf whrr, vcap.zd |
| 18:27.15 | atoponce | 'Kjd H.srav g; usglu ,dppw kjalv;e' to dvorak: The Dvopak is going well, thanks. |
| 18:27.22 | atoponce | heh |
| 18:33.49 | Yorokobi | atoponce, yeah, I messed it up trying to correct it. |
| 18:33.50 | goozbach | so I guess it's a race! |
| 18:34.00 | goozbach | who's T61p gets here faster? |
| 18:34.06 | goozbach | goozbach's? |
| 18:34.14 | goozbach | sjansen's? |
| 18:34.21 | goozbach | or dkelson's? |
| 18:35.04 | goozbach | another pollus.northsky guy? |
| 18:35.06 | goozbach | hmm |
| 18:35.16 | goozbach | I might have to kick him just on principle |
| 18:35.38 | goozbach | unless he identifies himself as another nick for someone else |
| 18:46.19 | klys | shadowwire: clonecd? lemme check into it |
| 18:46.40 | goozbach | cool new command of the week: conman |
| 18:46.50 | goozbach | and it's corresponding daemon, conmand |
| 18:47.07 | goozbach | basicly it's a broadcast console duplicator |
| 18:47.44 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.10 | levi | goozbach: Heh. |
| 18:52.30 | levi | goozbach: I was just talking about that here recently. |
| 18:52.41 | goozbach | anyone else ordered one? |
| 18:52.56 | levi | Talking about conman, I mean. |
| 18:53.09 | klys | shadowwire: since I don't know whether you want to read an image file or image a cd; http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?stquery=iso&sort=group_ranking&sortdir=asc&offset=0&form_cat=638 |
| 18:53.11 | levi | I just submitted a patch to make it work with ipmi consoles. |
| 18:54.55 | levi | If you have use for conman, you also might be interested in powerman. |
| 18:54.56 | goozbach | levi: oh! |
| 18:55.00 | goozbach | powerman!? |
| 18:55.04 | goozbach | looking into it |
| 18:55.20 | goozbach | I just stumbled across conman doing a stripped down RHEL install today |
| 18:55.29 | goozbach | noticed it in the avalible packages |
| 18:55.51 | levi | I know conman quite well. |
| 18:56.01 | findlay | why are all cluster apps postfixed with -man? |
| 18:56.49 | levi | Several of its features are built around the Icebox, which I wrote most of the firmware for. |
| 18:56.54 | findlay | and from which levi derives most of his C invective :) |
| 18:57.25 | levi | findlay: I guess the guys at Lawrence Livermore National Labs like postfixing -man on the names of their apps. |
| 18:58.28 | findlay | well, it seems Pixar went looney naming all of their utilities *man |
| 18:59.03 | levi | Huh. |
| 18:59.13 | levi | What utilities are those? |
| 18:59.29 | findlay | renderman, renameman, etc. |
| 18:59.51 | levi | Maybe they were hanging out with the LLNL guys. |
| 18:59.58 | findlay | probably |
| 19:09.58 | findlay | I wonder why they call it El Torito. It's probably because in order to give them their distinctive crunch they inject polystyrene into doritos |
| 19:10.48 | findlay | plastic in general is very bland tasting |
| 19:14.59 | herlo | findlay: you shouldn't worry about polystyrenes taste |
| 19:15.07 | herlo | findlay: just eat it, its good for you! |
| 19:15.16 | findlay | herlo: ok |
| 19:16.32 | atoponce | 2 day shipping |
| 19:16.52 | findlay | atoponce: for only 2 more days and you can send me one |
| 19:16.57 | levi | How do the t61 specs compare to, say, a MacBook Pro? |
| 19:17.26 | atoponce | levi: i think they are fairly comparable |
| 19:17.29 | Yorokobi | oy, and I just bought a T60 for my wife ... |
| 19:17.46 | atoponce | mine lacks the built-in camera and backlit keyboard, however |
| 19:18.01 | atoponce | but it does have a titanium rollcage around the tft |
| 19:18.31 | atoponce | and a fingerprint reader |
| 19:18.41 | findlay | someday I'll have a t1024 |
| 19:20.02 | elg | I already have a T86 |
| 19:20.30 | findlay | which reminds me, I 'need' to get an HP-50g |
| 19:20.40 | findlay | s/'/*/g |
| 19:20.48 | findlay | yeah |
| 19:22.30 | levi | I don't really care for the T-series aesthetics. |
| 19:23.47 | elg | I don't even know what a t series is |
| 19:25.16 | levi | elg: IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad laptops. |
| 19:25.29 | atoponce | it's one large carnivorous dinosaur biped after the other |
| 19:25.33 | elg | figured as much. |
| 19:25.52 | findlay | T-rex, T-bone, T-shirt |
| 19:25.56 | levi | It's like they're deliberately ugly. |
| 19:26.09 | elg | they probably are |
| 19:26.26 | findlay | yeah |
| 19:26.27 | atoponce | i like the look. the mbp seems fisher price to me |
| 19:26.30 | levi | However, if I'm going to spend a significant portion of my day staring at something, I would rather have it be something that looks nice. |
| 19:26.54 | levi | Well, tastes do vary. |
| 19:27.10 | levi | I'm not going to try to talk you into buying a Mac. But I want a new one. :) |
| 19:27.23 | atoponce | i debated it, actually |
| 19:27.31 | findlay | levi: I'll let you buy a new one if you give me your old one |
| 19:27.43 | elg | well I am going to try to talk anyone out of eating oatmeal. there's no accounting for taste but oatmeal is an exception |
| 19:27.46 | elg | ~lart vontrapp |
| 19:27.46 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at vontrapp |
| 19:28.00 | atoponce | ultimately, i don't care what it looks like, as it'll be plastered with stickers anyway |
| 19:28.05 | levi | elg: I eat oatmeal all the time. :) |
| 19:28.11 | findlay | ~oatmeal elg |
| 19:28.23 | findlay | ~shock elg |
| 19:28.35 | levi | atoponce: Yow. Well, I guess if you're going to put stickers on something, you might as well put them on the Thinkpad. |
| 19:28.43 | elg | atoponce: I think stickers on a macbook would look bad. I don't know if this t series looks much different from older thinkpads, but they're a much better sticker platform |
| 19:28.53 | findlay | indeed |
| 19:28.59 | levi | I hate stickers. |
| 19:29.22 | levi | On cars, on laptops, on notebooks... I hate them. |
| 19:29.34 | Jayce^ | I think most pc laptops need stickers... macs come dressed up nice already |
| 19:30.05 | levi | Did anyone hear the audio clip of the guy asking Steve Jobs why he doesn't participate in the 'Intel Inside' sticker campaign? |
| 19:30.21 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 19:30.42 | levi | It's pretty funny. What kind of a dumb question is that, anyway? |
| 19:30.46 | atoponce | ahh. the 'bad stickers' |
| 19:31.01 | atoponce | 'designed for windows' and 'intel inside' are the first to go |
| 19:31.04 | levi | atoponce: Well, I don't like those stickers either, but that's not what I was talking about. |
| 19:31.06 | Jayce^ | do you realize what their customers would do if they put it on there? |
| 19:31.35 | levi | I would be more likely to leave those stickers in place than to put on other ones. |
| 19:31.46 | findlay | there would be a mutiny in the apple-fanboydom |
| 19:32.47 | findlay | oh, Jayce^, mheath wants to ask you questions about paintball |
| 19:32.55 | Jayce^ | yeah, I answered him |
| 19:32.59 | findlay | ok |
| 19:34.06 | levi | I've got to decide whether to get a MacBook or MacBook Pro. |
| 19:50.55 | tensai | ~oatmeal $foo is <action> stuffs $foo's stomach with oatmeal and makes haggis |
| 19:50.55 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 19:51.53 | Yorokobi | It takes more than oats to make haggis, tensai. Some genius you are :) |
| 19:52.08 | tensai | ~oatmeal Yorokobi |
| 19:52.08 | ibot | ACTION stuffs Yorokobi's stomach with oatmeal and makes haggis |
| 20:00.47 | tensai | AB's recipe for haggis is great. "Serve with mashed potatoes, if you serve it at all." |
| 20:02.56 | tensai | I've often mused about how contemporary American cooking shies away from offal, as if our ancestors didn't gobble the stuff up |
| 20:03.26 | Yorokobi | It stunted their growth, we like to be tall. |
| 20:03.33 | tensai | tripe, kidneys, liver, tongue, heart. during WWII they coined the phrase "variety meat" to make it more appealing. |
| 20:04.20 | tensai | and yet, one of the most expensive foods out there is foie gras, which is just a duck or goose liver |
| 20:06.47 | goozbach | you know what would be cool? |
| 20:06.54 | goozbach | A giant underground bunker |
| 20:10.33 | Jayce^ | mm, missile silo house |
| 20:10.42 | Shadowwire | Yea, One so big that it has sky in it. |
| 20:11.11 | Shadowwire | A dysonsphere would be cool too. |
| 20:11.47 | Yorokobi | Don't forget the ultimate decore for missile silos: a Stargate |
| 20:13.14 | Shadowwire | Although I think a ringworld would be more feasable. |
| 20:15.50 | Shadowwire | I gotta get me one of those. |
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| 20:25.16 | herlo | thaddeusq: hey |
| 20:25.25 | klys | the ancinet labyrinth of Crete was supposed to have an entrance high in its sky |
| 20:25.31 | herlo | w |
| 20:25.31 | thaddeusq | herlo: Hey! |
| 20:25.36 | herlo | :w |
| 20:25.37 | herlo | hehe |
| 20:25.41 | herlo | that's what I was doing. |
| 20:25.44 | herlo | saving my vim doc |
| 20:26.02 | thaddeusq | vim commands in irc, sweet |
| 20:26.04 | herlo | thaddeusq: how's your friday man, I'm about to head home w00t!! |
| 20:26.16 | herlo | 1hr and counting |
| 20:26.26 | thaddeusq | herlo: It's good. I'm about to head home too. |
| 20:26.37 | thaddeusq | My commute home will be much shorter than yours. |
| 20:27.34 | thaddeusq | At the airport already? |
| 20:27.58 | herlo | thaddeusq: for 1.5hrs |
| 20:28.11 | herlo | ~lart thaddeusq for speeding |
| 20:28.11 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets thaddeusq feel it for speeding |
| 20:28.19 | herlo | how appropriate |
| 20:28.53 | thaddeusq | ~lart herlo for wasting 2.5 hours at a small airport |
| 20:28.53 | ibot | executes killall -KILL herlo for wasting 2.5 hours at a small airport |
| 20:29.55 | thaddeusq | small airports = very few non-stop flights |
| 20:30.17 | herlo | thaddeusq: true, but they also mean I don't have to drive into Boston |
| 20:30.43 | thaddeusq | Any avoidance of driving to Logan International is a plus. |
| 20:30.43 | herlo | and I'm flying 1st class anyway |
| 20:31.33 | herlo | agreed |
| 20:31.41 | thaddeusq | I reached Gold Medallion just in time to leave GL, now it's not all that beneficial to me. |
| 20:31.57 | herlo | thaddeusq: free vacation miles with the wife |
| 20:32.11 | herlo | you can both upgrade together |
| 20:32.14 | thaddeusq | yeah |
| 20:32.45 | thaddeusq | Just got an e-mail from delta, how appropriate. |
| 20:33.08 | thaddeusq | "Time's running out for your opportunity to earn three great rewards by reaching 125,000 MQMs by December 31, 2007." |
| 20:33.47 | herlo | yeah, saw that one too in my texts. Haven't looked at it yet |
| 20:34.52 | levi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/redandjonny/tags/stormtrooper/ |
| 20:34.54 | findlay | http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/10/guiliani_freedom_is_.html |
| 20:35.18 | beandog | wth |
| 20:35.20 | beandog | what a whack job. |
| 20:35.31 | levi | findlay: You might not want to look at my link, as some of the pictures contain a woman wearing a bikini. |
| 20:35.39 | levi | And a stormtrooper helmet. |
| 20:36.06 | tensai | eek, helmets! |
| 20:36.27 | findlay | I don't care what women wear. They don't matter to me anymore |
| 20:37.30 | findlay | sjansen said I could be a hermit, and maybe that's what I'll do |
| 20:39.07 | beandog | we'll have to unplug your internets |
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| 20:47.33 | goozbach | hermitism is sjansen's answer for everything |
| 20:47.57 | RyanE | don't like to shave? Hermit! |
| 20:48.07 | RyanE | anti-social nerd? Hermit! |
| 20:48.21 | RyanE | no girlfriend? no problem! Hermit! |
| 20:48.43 | findlay | haha |
| 20:48.57 | tensai | don't forget the bathing |
| 20:51.20 | beandog | how could we |
| 20:53.09 | goozbach | just think, a silo-home |
| 20:53.12 | goozbach | ultimate hermit |
| 20:53.17 | herlo | sjansen is a hermit?! No wonder I've not seen him in so long! |
| 20:56.51 | thaddeusq | hmmm. Maybe that's why I haven't seen him in a long time either. |
| 20:57.10 | findlay | ~seen sjansen |
| 20:57.11 | ibot | sjansen <n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 7d 1h 27m 57s ago, saying: 'king'. |
| 20:57.29 | RyanE | 'king'? Hermit. |
| 20:58.04 | goozbach | that's exactly what he is |
| 20:58.06 | goozbach | king hermit |
| 20:58.14 | thaddeusq | All hail king hermit |
| 20:58.17 | findlay | haha |
| 20:58.26 | Jayce^ | just call him khermit for short? :) |
| 20:58.33 | goozbach | kermit |
| 20:58.47 | goozbach | kermit de bog! |
| 20:58.50 | RyanE | or zmodem. |
| 20:58.54 | thaddeusq | king hermit, king crab |
| 20:59.15 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin sjansen |
| 20:59.34 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin sjansen ALL HAIL KING HERMIT!!! |
| 20:59.34 | ibot | ok, goozbach |
| 21:03.30 | Newsome | Kimball ruled for Novell and against SCO!!! |
| 21:03.54 | Yorokobi | No surprise there, but good to hear nonetheless. |
| 21:03.56 | findlay | in a hearing? |
| 21:04.44 | Newsome | Nope, he published his Memorandum Decision and Order just this afternoon |
| 21:04.58 | Newsome | http://sco.tuxrocks.com/Docs/Novell/Novell-377.pdf |
| 21:05.05 | Newsome | or http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070810165237718 |
| 21:05.06 | Yorokobi | "[T]he court concludes that Novell is the owner of the UNIX and UnixWare Copyrights." |
| 21:05.29 | RyanE | well, there goes any shred of copyright claims from SCO. |
| 21:05.53 | findlay | does that conclude the case? |
| 21:06.01 | Newsome | not entirely |
| 21:06.06 | Newsome | there's still Novell's counterclaims |
| 21:06.20 | findlay | hm |
| 21:06.25 | Newsome | and Kimball asked for an update in SCO v. IBM on how this impacts that case |
| 21:06.32 | findlay | it was a complicated issue I remember from one of the hearings |
| 21:07.13 | RyanE | [...] Novell is entitled to a declaration of rights under its Fourth Claim for |
| 21:07.13 | RyanE | Relief that it was and is entitled, at its sole discretion, to direct SCO to |
| 21:07.14 | RyanE | waive its claims against IBM and Sequent [...] |
| 21:07.43 | RyanE | heh |
| 21:07.54 | tensai | wow |
| 21:08.24 | RyanE | and it looks like SCO owes Novell royalties... |
| 21:08.50 | Newsome | I love this - The court, however, is precluded from granting a constructive trust with respect to the payments SCO received under the 2003 Sun and Microsoft Agreements because there is a question of fact as to the appropriate amount of SVRX Royalties SCO owes to Novell |
| 21:09.17 | RyanE | yeah, how much of the Microsoft payoff went towards things that SCO licensed from Novell? |
| 21:09.44 | Newsome | he's saying "I agree that you deserve the money, but I have to let a jury decide just how much they owe you" |
| 21:10.25 | tensai | put your thinking caps on, here comes a SQL question |
| 21:10.36 | RyanE | the answer is no. |
| 21:10.37 | findlay | OK< I"VE GOT IT ON |
| 21:10.54 | tensai | I've got a table, say (id integer, method varchar) |
| 21:11.20 | tensai | let's put in these three values: (1, 'INVITE'), (1, 'BYE'), (2, 'INVITE') |
| 21:11.46 | tensai | I want a list of all the invites, with their corresponding byes. but also I want the NULL, if there is one. |
| 21:12.02 | tensai | so (1, INVITE, BYE) and (2, INVITE, NULL) |
| 21:12.25 | tensai | I'm certain a left join can do that, but I must be missing it |
| 21:12.47 | RyanE | what server are you using? |
| 21:12.53 | RyanE | syntax is a bit different on some. |
| 21:12.53 | tensai | mysql |
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| 21:15.48 | tensai | what I'm getting is (1, 'INVITE', 'INVITE'), (1, 'INVITE', 'BYE') and (2, 'INVITE', 'INVITE') |
| 21:16.39 | tensai | I can prune out the first one, that's easy |
| 21:17.08 | RyanE | the last one would be (2, 'INVITE', null), I would think... |
| 21:17.27 | tensai | that's what I want, but that's not what I'm getting |
| 21:18.26 | tensai | select i.id, i.method, b.method from i left join b on i.id = b.id and i.id = 'INVITE' |
| 21:18.37 | tensai | s/and/where/ |
| 21:20.00 | tensai | aha. I got it |
| 21:20.30 | RyanE | and i.method != b.method |
| 21:20.51 | RyanE | I hate self-referencing tables like that. always screwed me up. |
| 21:21.30 | tensai | select i.id, i.method, b.method from acc i left join (select id, method from acc where method = 'BYE') b on i.id = b.id where i.method = 'INVITE' |
| 21:24.42 | tensai | the subselect is the key |
| 21:24.44 | nick125 | mmm |
| 21:25.01 | tensai | RyanE: thanks for helping me think. my query will run much faster now |
| 21:25.40 | tensai | right now it does a second select for each INVITE, so 100 INVITEs means 101 queries. yuck. |
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| 21:28.54 | nick125 | Hmm, anyone here know of any good consumer advocate blogs other than consumerist? |
| 21:29.22 | beandog | nothing beats the consumerist |
| 21:29.23 | beandog | :) |
| 21:31.12 | Jayce^ | nick125, so what happened this time? |
| 21:32.10 | nick125 | Jayce^: I got my laptop back, and, it now has a patch of rust on it, the rubber foot from the bottom is gone, the screws look corroded in the bottom, and they didn't fix the keyboard. |
| 21:32.22 | nick125 | Not to mention the huge amount of lies they've given me. |
| 21:33.00 | RyanE | about 6 years ago, my dad took his (working) computer in for them to install a CD-ROM drive, it came back completely non-functional. "It came in like that". |
| 21:33.17 | RyanE | I ended up replacing the Motherboard. Dorks. |
| 21:33.25 | nick125 | I took it to a third-party repair shop in town (I know a few people that work there), and, they said they think it has spill damage, but, they'll open it up on monday to look for sure (I had a third-party do it so CompUSA couldn't claim that I broke it) |
| 21:33.34 | nick125 | RyanE: They gave me the same kind of run around. |
| 21:33.40 | nick125 | "This rust looks old." |
| 21:33.56 | levi | I'm surprised you took it to CompUSA in the first place. |
| 21:34.09 | RyanE | rust *always* looks old. Have you ever heard anyone say, "Hey, is that rust new?" :) |
| 21:34.32 | nick125 | The guy at CompUSA was telling me that the warranty didn't cover "cosmetic" damage. I asked them "Even if it's *YOUR* fault?", and he denied that they caused the rust. |
| 21:34.48 | nick125 | levi: The *only* reason is because that's where I have the extended warranty at. |
| 21:35.36 | levi | What kind of laptop is this that gets rusty? |
| 21:35.48 | nick125 | It's an HP dv5178us |
| 21:35.57 | nick125 | I'll put pics up in a moment |
| 21:36.01 | nick125 | soon as I grab the SD card reader |
| 21:48.08 | unum | I missed the sco conversation |
| 21:50.27 | nick125 | http://zaphire.nick125.com/~nick/tmp/compusa/Photo_080907_003.jpg |
| 21:50.47 | RyanE | wow, that's not a little rust, either. |
| 21:50.55 | RyanE | but yeah, it looks old. :) |
| 21:53.30 | nick125 | I have a pic of the missing foot and corroded screw, but, you can't really see the screw in the poor picture quality |
| 21:56.00 | findlay | is mouser usually cheaper than digikey? |
| 22:00.38 | beandog | http://www.crypto.com/bingo/pr |
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| 22:53.11 | rsimpkins | So, who wants to drive to SCO with me and see if we can find McBride? |
| 22:53.38 | rsimpkins | Maybe we can get another picket going? |
| 22:53.47 | rsimpkins | "YOU LOOSE!" will be what my sign says. :) |
| 22:54.06 | tensai | and all the spelling nazis would laugh and point |
| 22:54.12 | rsimpkins | Or how about "P0Wn3D!" |
| 22:54.23 | tensai | the nazis would then explode |
| 22:54.29 | rsimpkins | oh, right, well, spelig wuz nerv my strng pnt. |
| 22:54.56 | tensai | l33t speak makes baby nazis cry :'( |
| 22:55.24 | rsimpkins | loose, lose, same thing. |
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| 22:56.24 | rsimpkins | Or the sign will just say "U LOOOOOOZZZZ!" Yes, I think taht would be more appropriate. |
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| 22:58.14 | tensai | Newsome: speaking of SCO (which we were before you joined), you ever hear from Bradipo? |
| 22:58.46 | Newsome | not recently |
| 22:59.03 | tensai | his presence here is missed |
| 23:00.00 | vontrapp | ~miss bradipo |
| 23:00.00 | ibot | ACTION whips a six shooter from her hip and fires just to the right of bradipo. |
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| 23:15.34 | bonez39 | is there any easy way to access a machine......which normally doesn't run with an attached monitor? I have static IP set on that machine....but ssh to that IP doesn't connect...is there any way to probe it? |
| 23:17.22 | Newsome | what services does it provide? |
| 23:17.51 | Newsome | web, nfs, email? |
| 23:17.53 | bonez39 | Newsome: well, it's going to run zimbra... that exchange replacement... |
| 23:18.24 | klys | bonez39: if you want a shell the other option is telnetd |
| 23:18.36 | bonez39 | normally, I can ssh to it..I have an alias set up for it...but it's rebooted and now, it seems its IP has changed, disallowing my access to it |
| 23:19.17 | bonez39 | klys: well, is telnetd going to be any more effective at discovering this...until I know the IP? |
| 23:19.30 | klys | bonez39: ping the ip then |
| 23:19.33 | Newsome | nmap -sP your_local_network |
| 23:19.50 | bonez39 | the IP that I think this machine had is NOT what it really has now...that's the rub |
| 23:20.06 | bonez39 | Newsome: THAT'S what I was trying to remember |
| 23:21.12 | bonez39 | Newsome: so would it be 'nmap -sP fyrenice.com' name of my domain here? or do I enter my discrete IP? |
| 23:21.29 | Newsome | it should be your ip range |
| 23:21.37 | Newsome | for example 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 23:21.42 | bonez39 | ah...ok... |
| 23:21.42 | Newsome | or whatever it is |
| 23:45.01 | Shadowwire | later |
| 23:45.50 | klys | l8r |
| 23:45.53 | klys | d00d |
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