| 00:11.18 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, hunh? |
| 00:11.25 | Jayce^ | beandog, yeah |
| 00:12.17 | Supaplex | Jayce^: yay or nay for recording the meeting? can we interact via irc to? |
| 00:12.46 | Jayce^ | dont' think anyone is recording |
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| 00:38.45 | levi_home | Jayce^: So, what are the perlmongers talking about? |
| 00:39.21 | levi_home | I was going to come to that one, but my wife needs a break from the kid, so I'll just be coming to PLUG tonight. |
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| 00:42.43 | Jayce^ | cool, we're just chatting in the office atm |
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| 00:48.10 | rsimpkins_bb | hey all. Am I lost? |
| 00:48.43 | rsimpkins_bb | building ppl won't let me in to PLUG |
| 00:49.23 | Jayce^ | arghh |
| 00:49.28 | Jayce^ | I'll go talk to them |
| 00:49.31 | Jayce^ | explains a bit |
| 00:49.38 | rsimpkins_bb | kk |
| 00:49.46 | herlo | stupid building people |
| 00:50.12 | herlo | Jayce^: did you think it was the topic? |
| 00:50.21 | rsimpkins_bb | heheh |
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| 01:36.27 | Supaplex | re Jayce^ |
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| 01:38.32 | Jayce^_lap | re? |
| 01:39.46 | atoponce | re.match() |
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| 02:08.52 | Supaplex | hi again |
| 02:08.55 | Supaplex | == re |
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| 02:55.44 | elg | ~lart pluggers |
| 02:55.44 | ibot | takes a big bite out of pluggers's jugular vein |
| 02:55.51 | Jayce^_lap | ~lart elg |
| 02:55.51 | ibot | throws elg's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 02:58.37 | herlo | Jayce^_lap: ooh, new nick, I see |
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| 03:03.14 | herlo | Jayce^_lap: ping |
| 03:03.21 | herlo | Jayce^_lap: #utos |
| 03:08.03 | nick125 | Anyone here have some free time and would like to review my pymtp library? |
| 03:08.21 | nick125 | (See if there are any parts that are unclear about the API, etc) |
| 03:08.29 | nick125 | I'm about to do a release tonight. |
| 03:09.25 | elg | you have a pimp library? |
| 03:09.34 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:09.36 | nick125 | pymtp :p |
| 03:09.42 | nick125 | Small difference in spelling |
| 03:09.49 | nick125 | http://hg.nick125.com/pymtp/archive/tip.tar.bz2 < if you get a chance |
| 03:10.37 | Jayce^_lap | herlo, still running |
| 03:11.08 | elg | i don't know yet what it might do, besides cause dozens of hookers to come calling |
| 03:11.43 | herlo | Jayce^_lap: cool, how long left? |
| 03:11.59 | Jayce^_lap | not sure |
| 03:12.07 | Jayce^_lap | good conversation |
| 03:12.23 | herlo | Jayce^_lap: good to hear |
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| 04:05.33 | findlay | have you ever known what it is to be an orphan? |
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| 04:16.53 | xbmodder_ | Hey |
| 04:17.02 | xbmodder_ | who here got dugg? |
| 04:17.17 | Jayce^_lap | ? |
| 04:19.08 | atoponce | how do you get a dugg? |
| 04:19.33 | Jayce^_lap | are you asking about a specific case? |
| 04:21.36 | xbmodder_ | Who is the cooking guy |
| 04:21.58 | nick125 | Quite a few of them. |
| 04:23.11 | herlo | xbmodder_: probably redbeard2 |
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| 04:35.22 | Sargun | Goozy Woozy |
| 04:38.02 | Sargun | http://blog.josephhall.com/2006/11/firefox-cookies.html |
| 04:48.42 | sontek_ | hey, any of you guys know why in gentoo when I get dhcp at work I also get assigned a hostname ( I want to tell it to ignore them from dhcp but can't figure out where ) |
| 04:49.18 | nick125 | sontek_: There is something like nohostname, let me find it |
| 04:50.08 | nick125 | sontek_: Are you setting your hostname in /etc/conf.d/hostname? |
| 04:50.53 | findlay | all I know is all the network stuff is configured in /etc/conf.d/net |
| 04:51.18 | nick125 | I mean, you can tell DHCP not to "send" your hostname, but, not to receive a hostname |
| 04:51.34 | findlay | and you can check /etc/conf.d/net.example for documentation |
| 04:51.52 | findlay | man, I need a new way of keeping track of phone numbers |
| 04:51.54 | nick125 | You can tell it not to send a hostname through dhcp_<interface>="nosendhost" |
| 04:52.14 | findlay | as it is I enter them on the command line and then egrep ~/.bash_history |
| 04:52.38 | nick125 | findlay: Haha, something similar here. |
| 04:53.23 | findlay | life got so much better when I found about HISTFILE_SIZE |
| 04:55.28 | sontek_ | nick125: I have /etc/conf.d/hostname set |
| 04:55.56 | sontek_ | nick125: where do I define the nosendhost? I'm not sure if it'll help |
| 04:56.12 | nick125 | sontek_: /etc/conf.d/net |
| 04:57.15 | sontek_ | Thanks, i'll let you know if it worked tomorrow :p |
| 05:17.58 | Sargun | nick125, hey |
| 06:08.49 | findlay | Sargun: HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 06:10.21 | findlay | there is no comparing Schubert's chamber music. It is surpassing beauty and eloquence |
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| 09:36.59 | Supaplex | http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=0kQGhO8pcivwcCYoPnyo5w_3d_3d humm |
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| 13:19.56 | atoponce | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-reader-to-retire-old-interface.html |
| 13:20.07 | atoponce | reading the bottom... it's about freaking time |
| 13:23.40 | Supaplex | kewl. |
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| 14:23.43 | maquis | does anybody in here use Amazon S3 for anything? |
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| 14:35.48 | elg | sjansen uses it to store his penguin pictures |
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| 14:38.00 | elg | ~lart redbeard2 |
| 14:38.00 | ibot | squeezes redbeard2 till redbeard2 turns blue like papa smurf |
| 14:38.51 | redbeard2 | goozbach: ping |
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| 14:57.33 | redbeard2 | ~invoke goozbach |
| 14:58.36 | ibot | invoke goozbach |
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| 16:54.47 | *** topic/#utah is The channel for content free discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 - https://register.utosc.org |
| 16:54.47 | *** mode/#utah [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 16:55.43 | elg | tensai: oh, I was trying to disparage your dog |
| 16:55.48 | neybar | ~fish elg |
| 16:55.49 | ibot | ACTION slaps elg around with a large trout |
| 16:56.13 | elg | ibot, welcome back to your doom |
| 16:56.14 | ibot | Good to see you, back to your doom! |
| 16:56.40 | elg | ~welcome you fools |
| 16:56.41 | ibot | Good to see you, you fools! |
| 16:58.11 | levi | I just ordered Monahan's "Numerical Methods of Statistics", Jaynes's "Probability Theory: The Logic of Science" and Queinnec's "Lisp in Small Pieces" for CDN$ 3.95 each from amazon.ca |
| 16:58.25 | levi | The first two are hardbacks, too. |
| 17:02.03 | tensai | three books I would read even if they were free |
| 17:02.17 | tensai | s/would/wouldn't/ |
| 17:03.34 | levi | Statistics and Probability Theory are highly important topics. I don't know that I'll read them cover to cover, but it'll be nice to have references. |
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| 17:09.39 | Tene | ~tensai-- |
| 17:21.32 | RyanE | levi: so when did you start with Harman? |
| 17:22.19 | levi | RyanE: I haven't started yet, my first day is the 20th. |
| 17:22.56 | RyanE | so you're still with linux networks til then? |
| 17:23.04 | levi | Yup. |
| 17:23.10 | RyanE | who did you interview with here (out of curiosity)... |
| 17:24.05 | levi | At Control4? Ken Isle and the software manager guys, whose names I can't remember. |
| 17:25.56 | RyanE | yeah, I have a co-worker who used to be at Harman. Speaks highly of the company. |
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| 17:30.38 | Supaplex | TimRiker: get my txt? :) |
| 17:31.53 | levi | RyanE: Working on home automation stuff would have been really cool, but the HMG job seemed more like what I want to be doing. |
| 17:34.41 | sontek | Hey, do you goes know if there is a way to move a currently running process to a screen? |
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| 17:38.04 | bonez39 | Tene: yeah, but what would make those resolve..and then recur, and resolve... |
| 17:40.31 | RyanE | levi: yeah, I understand that. I had to choose between continuing to work at home (which I adored) or working on fun stuff. Once a gadget guy, always a gadget guy. |
| 17:51.59 | Jayce^ | ROFL, just got an email from salesforce.com, telling me to follow up on a lead, named Jason Hall :) |
| 17:52.18 | Jayce^ | apparently the people working the Ingres booth don't know how to fill in forms, or manage their data well |
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| 17:52.43 | levi | Jayce^: Maybe it's someone with the same name? ;) |
| 17:53.29 | Jayce^ | now I wish it had some login information for salesforce :) |
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| 18:00.46 | klys | shadowwire: ping |
| 18:02.46 | Supaplex | bleh. automation just bit me three times already. |
| 18:05.45 | TimRiker | Supaplex: yep. qworst dsl line hiccuped and I had to reset the modem. thx! |
| 18:06.18 | Supaplex | np :) |
| 18:10.20 | findlay | hello |
| 18:13.14 | bonez39 | anyone know where to find ice* help on irc? |
| 18:13.25 | bonez39 | i.e., for icweasel or icedove...etc? |
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| 18:13.59 | bonez39 | elg: do you run iceweasel, ever? |
| 18:15.50 | beandog | icedove? |
| 18:16.06 | Supaplex | beandog: #ubuntu #debian |
| 18:16.24 | beandog | what is icedove |
| 18:17.01 | Supaplex | aptitude show icedove = Description: free/unbranded thunderbird mail client |
| 18:17.17 | Supaplex | all because mozilla has rebar up their hind parts. |
| 18:17.42 | findlay | to say nothing of bittorrent |
| 18:18.14 | Supaplex | so what of bt? |
| 18:19.06 | findlay | "We're going closed source, yay, moniez! We are open source and have an SDK" |
| 18:19.59 | findlay | I cringe at the three letters "SDK", but why do you need an SDK for a protocol? |
| 18:20.03 | Supaplex | they can fork the fork off |
| 18:20.44 | findlay | well they will have a hard time of convincing the hosters of booty torrents to switch to their new proprietary protocol supposing they want to change it :) |
| 18:23.38 | markl_ | Jayce^: what's up |
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| 18:25.22 | elg | bonez39: I run firefox, yeah. same thing except the name |
| 18:26.14 | levi | findlay: Well, if you don't publish the protocol or your source code, those who want to use it either have to get a SDK (read: binary library) or reverse-engineer it. |
| 18:26.28 | Supaplex | or avoid it |
| 18:26.32 | elg | findlay: what's wrong with an SDK for a protocol? Software Development Kit - it' could be a few documents or an example or an API - all of which are perfectly helpful |
| 18:26.59 | levi | But yeah, there's nothing wrong with SDKs in principle. |
| 18:27.15 | elg | you could call fftw an SDK if you wanted, for example |
| 18:28.23 | findlay | I guess it's because it seems like what proprietary vendors call libraries |
| 18:28.48 | elg | sweet. $15e6 has been approved for immediate delivery to me. |
| 18:29.14 | levi | elg: Send me some! |
| 18:29.24 | Supaplex | ditto |
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| 18:29.33 | elg | all I have to do is confirm my name, number, address, and zip |
| 18:30.58 | levi | Hmm, somehow I don't think that will be delivered. |
| 18:31.27 | Supaplex | I'm an instant slickdeals.net freebee addict. |
| 18:31.28 | levi | Yay, my issue is being completely ignored on #mythtv-users. |
| 18:31.45 | elg | what's your issue? |
| 18:31.46 | Supaplex | ~beandog++ |
| 18:31.53 | elg | ~ibot-- |
| 18:32.30 | elg | ~bash for i in `seq 1 1000`; do echo "~ibot--"; done |
| 18:32.30 | ibot | ACTION beats for i in `seq 1 1000`; do echo "~ibot--"; done with ksh |
| 18:32.30 | Supaplex | ~ibot++ |
| 18:32.35 | Supaplex | ~qwest-- |
| 18:32.46 | levi | elg: I get a 'partial lock' and no picture when I try to tune any of the Fox or ION sub-channels. The mythbackend log says: http://pastebin.com/m171835ee |
| 18:33.50 | elg | are they talking about girls? or cars maybe? |
| 18:34.14 | elg | has anyone told you your problem is the same as another in big oh notation? |
| 18:34.19 | levi | No, they're talking about someone else's problem. |
| 18:34.59 | beandog | levi: #1 answer, try svn. |
| 18:35.09 | beandog | They'll beat you senseless / ignore you if you aren't running svn. |
| 18:35.17 | levi | Bah. |
| 18:35.21 | beandog | Since MythTV has no concept of 'releases' |
| 18:35.34 | elg | which of course just means you trade the possibility of fixing your bug for a dozen other lurking bugs |
| 18:35.34 | beandog | They want everyone to just use the latest and greatest code. |
| 18:35.55 | beandog | which, actually, is not an uncommon request when it comes to multimedia apps |
| 18:36.05 | bonez39 | elg: reason I ask, is that with some sites..if the site has a splash/flash/blah blah blah sort of window inside the page...that child element obscures other parts of that same page...i.e., drop down menu items...know what might cause that? |
| 18:36.17 | beandog | elg: right |
| 18:36.19 | levi | Someone who knows what's going on ought to be able to tell me whether this is an issue caused by misconfiguration or screwy data streams or what. |
| 18:36.22 | beandog | elg: especially true iwth myth. |
| 18:36.29 | elg | bonez39: probably because they are designed that way? |
| 18:36.47 | elg | in your face advertising |
| 18:37.12 | elg | levi: not running svn *is* a misconfiguratoin |
| 18:38.54 | levi | Bah, I'm probably going to have to read the source code to figure out what's going on. |
| 18:39.01 | bonez39 | elg: but designed that way wouldn't allow a user to access most of the drop down menu items..AND..the same site works just FINE..if I open it in either Firefox or IE on a win xp box... |
| 18:39.15 | elg | oh really, it works in firefox but not iceweasel? |
| 18:39.19 | elg | what are the different versions? |
| 18:40.02 | bonez39 | doesn't work in iceweasel on this machine..let me check once more, back in a bit |
| 18:40.24 | beandog | levi: you can run two instances of myth side by side. |
| 18:40.30 | beandog | well, not simultaneolusly. |
| 18:40.32 | beandog | er |
| 18:40.33 | beandog | well |
| 18:40.37 | beandog | nevermind, I better not go into details. |
| 18:40.49 | elg | hmm, did gtalk change the way it does authorizations? I just added a gtalk buddy and immediately got an authorization request, but then the buddy turns out not to be online |
| 18:40.49 | beandog | if you do run svn |
| 18:40.51 | beandog | run 0.20_fixes |
| 18:40.54 | beandog | and *not* 0.21 |
| 18:42.11 | levi | beandog: No one has even responded to me to ask what version. I'm just being ignored. |
| 18:42.54 | elg | maybe if your nick was more imposing, like "tvcrusher" |
| 18:42.57 | levi | What a lousy channel. |
| 18:43.51 | Yorokobi | levi, pull the "n00b IRC Ace-in-the-hole" and paste your question to the channel until someone helps you out (or you get kicked) :) |
| 18:44.04 | Yorokobi | paste it every 20 secs or so |
| 18:44.30 | elg | make it the topic |
| 18:44.33 | markl_ | make sure to call everyone with ops an a-hole for not helping you immediately |
| 18:44.43 | markl_ | they love that |
| 18:44.51 | elg | especially ibot |
| 18:44.55 | elg | ibot, you're a jerk |
| 18:44.55 | ibot | I know you are but what am I? |
| 18:45.24 | elg | i'm going to fire up the brick oven again tonight |
| 18:45.53 | Supaplex | ibot-kabobs? ;) |
| 18:51.01 | elg | pizza |
| 18:51.15 | elg | if i can manage to get it hot enough |
| 18:51.28 | Supaplex | spiffy |
| 18:51.41 | elg | last time I failed miserably, but I've been doing some reading and I think I know what I did wrong |
| 18:51.58 | elg | basically, I should have let the boy scout within express himself better. MORE WOOD! |
| 18:53.21 | Supaplex | less pee ;) |
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| 19:04.33 | goozbach | ohh! I have a house now... |
| 19:04.41 | goozbach | I can build a brick oven :) |
| 19:11.30 | elg | goozbach: w00t |
| 19:12.15 | beandog | I can brick a router |
| 19:13.16 | fozzmoo | goozbach: A house? |
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| 19:14.20 | Supaplex | my router's hard to brick. it's a x86 geode. (and netbooting is available) |
| 19:15.04 | beandog | I want one. |
| 19:20.44 | Supaplex | keep scottsthrift on your ebay watchlist. I'll toss a few up in the next week or so |
| 19:21.03 | beandog | oh, youre selling em? |
| 19:21.09 | Supaplex | yup |
| 19:21.55 | beandog | no friends of #utah discount? |
| 19:21.56 | beandog | :) |
| 19:22.07 | Supaplex | free shipping if you pick it up :) |
| 19:22.17 | beandog | that's better than nothing. |
| 19:23.10 | goozbach | fozzmoo: well, I AM renting |
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| 19:25.23 | beandog | I dont suppose anyone has an extra cable modem |
| 19:25.34 | Supaplex | I have a few |
| 19:25.42 | beandog | mine died last night |
| 19:26.49 | Supaplex | I even fixed the power cable so the power never flickers if it moves (some EE can be so dense) |
| 19:28.45 | beandog | Im debating calling Comcast out to replace it (I'm leasing) or just buying one. |
| 19:29.20 | Supaplex | free is good, if it doesn't come to bite you later anyway. |
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| 19:29.49 | beandog | well Im paying $3/month |
| 19:30.00 | beandog | which isnt bad I guess |
| 19:30.14 | beandog | I just hate calling them on the phone, convincing them that it really is dead, and power cycling 803 times wont fix it |
| 19:30.23 | beandog | and then having to stay at home all morning for them to come out |
| 19:30.32 | Supaplex | yeaw. |
| 19:31.41 | Supaplex | and the infamous please download something. .oO( Uh, it's dead dood. DED gone... 0 internet. nada. like your brain! zip. zilch. ) |
| 19:32.00 | levi | Well, geez. No wonder those channels won't tune. |
| 19:32.13 | levi | The database info is totally screwed up for them. |
| 19:33.32 | beandog | levi: what happened |
| 19:34.10 | Supaplex | he tried the microwave trick to blank the eeprom ;) |
| 19:34.31 | levi | beandog: I don't know why, but the channels that won't tune have the wrong freqid number in their db rows. |
| 19:37.28 | beandog | thats weird |
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| 19:42.46 | RyanE | levi: hopefully that'll be the only issue. Maybe that's why no one on the mythtv channel answered you... |
| 19:43.51 | levi | RyanE: That'd be kind of sad. |
| 19:46.27 | RyanE | yeah, but it's kind of pointless to respond to a post by saying "yeah, I've never seen that problem". |
| 19:47.24 | levi | Well, if I could figure it out, I'm sure someone who had some familiarity with the database and how it's used to control recording and such could have suggested that the frequency for the channel might be wrong. |
| 19:47.32 | levi | I don't think anyone bothered looking. |
| 19:48.09 | RyanE | yeah, probably not |
| 19:48.39 | elg | too busy watching tv probably |
| 19:51.07 | RyanE | that's my #1 complaint about the myth box. I watch more TV. |
| 19:53.34 | elg | my #1 complaint about time shifting is I get obsessed with watching every episode of stuff |
| 19:55.18 | levi | Well, now that I have Fox working again, stuff I might want to watch will probably get recorded. |
| 19:55.36 | levi | It's mainly for my wife, though. |
| 19:56.06 | elg | but it's far better to be obsessed about watching every episode of stuff I like, than to want to watch tv and there's nothing on the 5000 channels that you want to watch |
| 19:57.38 | levi | Yeah. |
| 20:08.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | The case of the disappearing printer! |
| 20:08.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Also see: http://bash.org/?5273 |
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| 20:09.33 | elg | :) |
| 20:09.41 | elg | well the jobs didn't go through |
| 20:11.30 | bonez39 | what might cause email to just stop working? I was getting email here on my primary linux box just fine until about an hour ago..and now NOTHING..I have run /etc/init.d/exim4 restart..it shows restarting just fine...restarted bind9 same way..no errors...email to myself from self here..comes back to me, but nothing from outside is reaching... |
| 20:11.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It could be worse. You could be reformatting windows computers. |
| 20:11.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Like I am no. |
| 20:11.36 | ScytheBlade1 | s/no/now/ |
| 20:11.44 | bonez39 | I dont' use iptables..... but I am now losing email.... |
| 20:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | bonez39, check your logs ;) |
| 20:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Failing that, MX records? |
| 20:12.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, this at home on a dynamic IP by chance? |
| 20:12.56 | bonez39 | I check my logs for /var/log/exim4 mainlog and no errors show... |
| 20:13.07 | RyanE | maybe you just got less popular... :) |
| 20:13.09 | bonez39 | yeah, dynamic IP, but my email has ALWAYS worked... |
| 20:13.26 | bonez39 | I have emailed myself from my gmail account..and ssh to home and then emailed from there too...no go |
| 20:13.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Check to make sure your A record is pointing to the right IP |
| 20:14.18 | bonez39 | a record, eh? |
| 20:14.20 | bonez39 | ok |
| 20:14.35 | ScytheBlade1 | MX records point to A records, and if the IP changed.. |
| 20:31.56 | Supaplex | bonez39: is this the exim+zimbra mx issue still? |
| 21:04.22 | bonez39 | Supaplex: no, this is just a my email stoppped working issue... |
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| 21:13.18 | macnewbold | bonez39: if you use namecheap and their dns servers, they've been under a DoS attack today and have had spotty functionality |
| 21:14.55 | beandog | everydns ftw |
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| 21:16.31 | RyanE | ftw? |
| 21:17.07 | levi | RyanE: ftw = for the win |
| 21:17.22 | bonez39 | macnewbold: that MUST be the issue today then.... |
| 21:17.23 | elg | from the west? |
| 21:17.25 | RyanE | aha |
| 21:18.03 | bonez39 | macnewbold: what's odd though, this is for address 'scott@fyrenice.com' and it doesn't use the 'dynalias.com' extension which I have set up there...for fyrenice.com |
| 21:20.38 | bonez39 | hmmm just now it's starting to come back on line.... |
| 21:20.56 | bonez39 | would having the WRONG ip SET at my domain registrar namecheap.com have caused this too? |
| 21:23.23 | macnewbold | everywhere on the internet should generally use whatever your whois record says is your DNS server |
| 21:25.19 | bonez39 | macnewbold: I just whois'd 'fyrenice.com' |
| 21:27.06 | beandog | http://www.schedulesdirect.org/ |
| 21:28.03 | levi | Wow, my mythtv box has a load avg of 5.14 |
| 21:28.56 | bonez39 | I have 'whois guard' on with my registrar ... so it doesn't show...just the nameservers which cover mine...but my IP 71.195.243.49 has issues, I guess....dig @71.195.243.49 |
| 21:28.56 | RyanE | watching HD content? |
| 21:29.07 | levi | Not sure. Probably. |
| 21:29.29 | levi | I'm just poking around at the command line remotely. |
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| 21:30.43 | RyanE | my load is about .5, with frontend taking 18% cpu, likely watching some TV, apparently. |
| 21:31.05 | RyanE | levi: did both channels get fixed after the DB editing? |
| 21:31.16 | levi | RyanE: I don't know, I'm not at home where the TV is. |
| 21:31.17 | Supaplex | RyanE: or ftw = f$*@ the world (infrequent) |
| 21:31.48 | RyanE | levi: you need to install an IP camera pointed at the TV, so you can tell. :) |
| 21:37.39 | levi | I think my myth box needs more RAM. |
| 21:37.49 | levi | It has 512M now. |
| 21:38.43 | nick125 | Yay, 21 people have downloaded pymtp in 17 hours. |
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| 21:47.49 | markl_ | 512 -> 1024 is a very good jump |
| 21:48.00 | markl_ | i hated it with 512, it is a memory hog |
| 21:48.08 | markl_ | esp when commflag was going |
| 21:48.21 | RyanE | 512 works for me, but I only have 2 SD encoders, and 1 SD output. |
| 21:48.35 | levi | Yeah, that should about take care of things. It's using about 512 of swap right now. |
| 21:48.37 | RyanE | if I were trying to do HD, I'd have to rebuild from scratch. |
| 21:49.06 | markl_ | hd output is pretty intensive |
| 21:50.02 | levi | I think my major problem is lack of RAM. |
| 21:50.45 | markl_ | what is your symptom? |
| 21:51.17 | beandog | try using xvmc |
| 21:51.30 | beandog | that'd offset the playback load quite a bit. |
| 21:51.31 | levi | Video playback is fine once the disk stops thrashing. |
| 21:51.42 | levi | xvmc causes other problems. |
| 21:52.14 | markl_ | levi: definitely could be a swapping issue, can you run top from another box while it's happening? |
| 21:52.27 | Supaplex | ~lart jabber://xmpp.us |
| 21:52.27 | ibot | puts jabber://xmpp.us through a wood chipper |
| 21:52.34 | Supaplex | yehou! |
| 21:53.13 | levi | mythfrontend is reserving 731m of virtual memory, 201m of which is currently resident. |
| 21:55.10 | beandog | are you using opengl? |
| 21:56.09 | markl_ | levi: hit M |
| 21:56.13 | markl_ | and see which processes are the hogs |
| 21:56.49 | levi | That would be mythfrontend, Xorg, mythcommflag, and mythbackend |
| 21:57.34 | markl_ | sure sounds like another batch of ram will help a lot |
| 21:59.30 | levi | Yeah, I think it will. |
| 22:01.49 | markl_ | what kind of tv are you outputting to? |
| 22:04.14 | Supaplex | the viewing kind |
| 22:06.02 | levi | A HDTV via component output. |
| 22:06.04 | levi | 1080i |
| 22:06.26 | levi | Hmm, should I go with EIDE or SATA for a DVD drive? |
| 22:07.08 | QBFreak | ESDI is all the rage |
| 22:07.33 | Jayce^ | no real reason for SATA on the dvd drive.. unless you are copying between two that would otherwise be on the same channel |
| 22:11.38 | levi | Well, SATA cables are easier to work with. |
| 22:11.58 | levi | I'm getting the IDE one anyway. |
| 22:11.59 | QBFreak | easier to break the plugs on the board too |
| 22:15.48 | levi | I'm not terribly concerned about that. |
| 22:16.32 | QBFreak | I still say ESDI, can't go wrong with those card-edge connectors |
| 22:16.51 | QBFreak | a tried and true 1980s design |
| 22:26.08 | markl_ | heh, ESDI was the ultimate |
| 22:26.25 | markl_ | in its day |
| 22:26.39 | markl_ | man i haven't seen that acronym in a long time |
| 22:26.52 | markl_ | ~lart jayce |
| 22:26.52 | ibot | makes a balloon animal out of jayce |
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| 22:32.08 | Supaplex | hehehe |
| 22:38.25 | findlay | for anyone interested, UVSC has a bunch of surplus monitors for free in the southern part of the education building parking lot |
| 22:38.42 | Supaplex | schweetness |
| 22:39.03 | tensai | there are also a bunch left sitting on desks throughout campus |
| 22:39.08 | beandog | lol |
| 22:39.23 | mrpull | findlay: anything worth making a drive for? |
| 22:39.48 | moriancumer | any lcd? |
| 22:41.01 | findlay | mrpull: about 30 CRT's mostly 17", some 15" |
| 22:41.28 | mrpull | sounds like an instant ebay business |
| 22:41.29 | findlay | viewsonics, dells, and another kind I don't remember |
| 22:41.47 | findlay | they look to be about 5-7 years old |
| 22:42.14 | findlay | I picked up the best 17" viewsonic I could find |
| 22:42.31 | findlay | mrpull: good idea |
| 22:46.52 | Supaplex | findlay: how many? estimate? |
| 22:47.08 | Supaplex | I have a use for an carload of them actually. |
| 22:48.31 | RyanE | Supaplex: they don't work as airbags... |
| 22:49.02 | Supaplex | bad assumption on your part. but cute. :P |
| 22:49.38 | RyanE | I'm picturing something out of 'Road Warrior', but with CRT's glued on all over the car... |
| 22:49.59 | RyanE | or a home-made CRT-based DVD in-car system. Schweet! |
| 22:50.32 | Supaplex | hahaha |
| 22:51.37 | tensai | how about put 16 of them in a square and make a wall size monitor |
| 22:51.49 | findlay | haha |
| 22:52.00 | findlay | assuming the picture's not gone on half of them |
| 22:52.05 | tensai | just need to get a 16 port video card |
| 22:52.19 | Supaplex | hummm. that's one messy stack of monitors. :p |
| 22:52.55 | RyanE | that'd look *great*, being they're all different manufacturers and sizes. I have a hard enough time finding my mouse on *two* monitors, left to right... |
| 22:54.55 | findlay | better get them soon |
| 22:55.03 | findlay | this one has got sprinkler water all over it |
| 22:55.12 | tensai | ooh, free water too |
| 22:55.16 | findlay | yeah |
| 22:55.24 | tensai | that's a sweet deal |
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| 22:55.29 | Supaplex | ~clearfield-- |
| 22:55.34 | Supaplex | ;-/ |
| 22:55.53 | findlay | clear up on clearfield? :) |
| 22:55.58 | Supaplex | yez |
| 22:55.58 | findlay | s/o/i/g |
| 22:56.18 | vontrapp_ | ack! |
| 22:56.28 | vontrapp_ | how do you keep the meta keys from sticking in x? |
| 22:56.38 | findlay | WD-40? |
| 22:56.44 | Yorokobi | New keyboard |
| 22:57.24 | Supaplex | death threats to misbehaved hardware |
| 22:57.36 | vontrapp | i don't even know what causes it, but every now and then after switching desktops around with meta-# it gets stuck |
| 22:57.36 | vontrapp | i have to switch to a vt to get it unstuck |
| 22:57.41 | vontrapp | it's not a hardware issue |
| 22:57.49 | Supaplex | kvm? |
| 22:58.00 | vontrapp | nope |
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| 22:58.26 | RyanE | yeah, synergy will also get confused from time to time. It'll think I'm pressing CTRL or SHIFT when I'm not. Of course, this helps you not one bit. |
| 22:58.28 | findlay | yay, gentoo! |
| 22:58.41 | findlay | makes it easy to patch packages |
| 22:58.54 | vontrapp | ~gentoo findlay |
| 22:58.54 | ibot | ACTION recompiles findlay again |
| 22:59.04 | beandog | \o/ |
| 22:59.06 | vontrapp | ~patch findlay |
| 22:59.07 | Yorokobi | ~boo gentoo for making the end user patch packages |
| 22:59.08 | ibot | Boo! Hiss! gentoo for making the end user patch packages is pure filth! Boo! |
| 22:59.39 | findlay | Yorokobi: hey on any other distro if I wanted mutt+sidebar, I'd have to compile the tarball |
| 22:59.51 | vontrapp | mutt+sidebar? |
| 23:00.10 | findlay | http://www.lunar-linux.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44 |
| 23:00.10 | Yorokobi | Mutt, because all email clients suck |
| 23:00.34 | vontrapp | instead of moving messages to folders, just tag them all |
| 23:00.38 | vontrapp | anything with no tags at all would be in the inbox |
| 23:00.51 | vontrapp | that would be an awesome mail setup |
| 23:00.53 | findlay | actually in this case it's even easier because the patch is tied to an existing use flag for the package |
| 23:01.11 | findlay | vontrapp: sounds like folders in essence |
| 23:01.42 | vontrapp | findlay: nay, a message can only be in one folder, unless you copy it, if you tag it, it can be everywhere and nowhere, all at once |
| 23:01.49 | RyanE | folderless folders. What'll they think of next. |
| 23:01.52 | findlay | trye |
| 23:01.59 | findlay | s/y/u/g |
| 23:02.11 | Yorokobi | Sounds like labels in gmail |
| 23:02.35 | vontrapp | gmail would be cool if it wasn't braindead about threads |
| 23:02.38 | findlay | RyanE: sounds like the neatest thing since 32 button mice |
| 23:02.46 | findlay | vontrapp: totally |
| 23:02.51 | vontrapp | and if it had a console interface |
| 23:03.17 | findlay | elinks works pretty good for me |
| 23:03.24 | vontrapp | with gmail? |
| 23:03.26 | findlay | yeah |
| 23:03.28 | vontrapp | that's surprising |
| 23:03.32 | RyanE | wow |
| 23:03.37 | RyanE | that's brave |
| 23:03.44 | findlay | they have a non javascript version |
| 23:03.48 | findlay | I use it all the time |
| 23:03.55 | findlay | more than the graphical one, actually |
| 23:04.36 | findlay | I only wish you could have an embedded vim for textareas |
| 23:05.02 | vontrapp | that little recycle looking icon just keeps staring at me |
| 23:05.28 | vontrapp | findlay: that would be awesome |
| 23:06.11 | Yorokobi | findlay, it may not be embedded, but the "It's All Text" FF plugin lets you use Vim for <textarea> input |
| 23:06.12 | findlay | there's a firefox extension that opens your editor of choice, but I'd prefer that it could embed a gvim component like the kpart |
| 23:06.13 | Tene | vontrapp: have you looked at sup? |
| 23:06.28 | Tene | http://sup.rubyforge.org/ |
| 23:08.09 | vontrapp | Tene: i'll have to try it out |
| 23:08.27 | vontrapp | it's got a pretty tough standard to live up to (ala mutt) but i'll give it a fair go |
| 23:08.47 | vontrapp | and it's ruby |
| 23:10.15 | vontrapp | crap, sup in aptitude is supthing else |
| 23:10.27 | vontrapp | "software upgrade protocol" |
| 23:10.35 | Tene | Lame. |
| 23:14.53 | Supaplex | findlay: where exactly are they located? I have a local contact ready to grab a few for me. |
| 23:15.06 | Supaplex | what part of uvsc? |
| 23:16.27 | Supaplex | findlay: any contact name/number there? |
| 23:17.01 | vontrapp | grr, it wants to install the ncurses gem, but i already have ruby ncurses via apt |
| 23:17.09 | vontrapp | but when i tell it no, it fails |
| 23:19.36 | Tene | yay! |
| 23:20.46 | maquis | does anybody here use S3 (simple storage system)? |
| 23:22.48 | Supaplex | not it |
| 23:24.53 | dataw0lf | maquis: the Amazon thing? |
| 23:25.05 | fungus | WTF!? http://fallenpegasus.com/code/mysql-awss3/ |
| 23:29.13 | maquis | dataw0lf: yes |
| 23:29.27 | dataw0lf | maquis: nope. |
| 23:29.30 | maquis | :( |
| 23:29.32 | maquis | ok |
| 23:31.05 | vontrapp | the active trails guy uses it |
| 23:31.10 | vontrapp | i read about it, sounds neat |
| 23:31.20 | vontrapp | if i had a lot of data to host i would probably use it |
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| 23:47.41 | Supaplex | ~feed me |
| 23:47.41 | ibot | ACTION offers supaplex some toe-jam |
| 23:58.53 | findlay | Supaplex: by the education building |
| 23:59.05 | findlay | at least I think that's what they still call it |
| 23:59.14 | Supaplex | k |
| 23:59.30 | Supaplex | any other physical description/landmarks/etc? |
| 23:59.40 | findlay | it's way apart from the main campus up on the hill and doesn't share the unique archictectural style of the rest of campus |
| 23:59.54 | findlay | but it's still some ugly 70's-style building |