| 00:24.19 | dilvie | hey |
| 00:25.04 | Supaplex | greetings :) |
| 00:25.24 | Supaplex | QBFreak: yo, look who arrived |
| 00:25.42 | Supaplex | humm... vga.. power.. ps/2.. |
| 00:26.12 | dilvie | damn hackaz |
| 00:26.40 | dilvie | zomg robots! |
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| 00:44.08 | Supaplex | dilvie: do you want to retaliate? |
| 00:50.42 | Supaplex | levi: are you using torque or moab? |
| 00:54.25 | dilvie | retaliate? |
| 00:54.51 | Supaplex | ibot: spell retaliate |
| 00:55.02 | Supaplex | on the hax0rz |
| 00:56.14 | Supaplex | looks isolated to your account. I compared system changes from a old backup. nothing suspicious. (excluding /home) |
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| 01:32.39 | graphyx | Anyone have a suggestion for signing up for broadband in utah county? |
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| 01:35.54 | calvarez | man, I never imagined I'd like my MBP so much :) |
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| 02:39.09 | graphyx | no one has any recommendations for signing up for broadband? |
| 02:40.45 | jsmith | graphyx: Buy yourself a trencher and a big-ol-spool of fiber |
| 02:41.07 | graphyx | you got any left from when you did it? |
| 02:41.30 | jsmith | Still haven't done it. |
| 02:41.33 | graphyx | really? |
| 02:41.40 | graphyx | stuck with sattelite? |
| 02:41.41 | jsmith | But they are putting copper in the ground across the street |
| 02:41.50 | jsmith | graphyx: Cell phone internet |
| 02:41.57 | graphyx | what speeds? |
| 02:42.03 | graphyx | that is a good choice |
| 02:42.36 | graphyx | 6 mbps down 768 up for $20 /month |
| 02:42.40 | graphyx | comcast cable |
| 02:42.42 | graphyx | not too bad. |
| 02:42.47 | graphyx | i think I will go with that one |
| 02:42.58 | graphyx | perhaps there will have a nice dsl offer in 6 months. |
| 02:43.06 | graphyx | they* |
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| 03:09.18 | tensai | anybody else getting timeouts from bloglines? |
| 03:19.32 | elg | why I never give to a webapp responsibilities that I can take care of on my own machine |
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| 03:21.52 | tensai | I tried that and I find bloglines works better for me |
| 03:22.21 | elg | except when it doesn't work at all ;-) |
| 03:22.51 | tensai | well yes. but there were plenty of those times using my own aggregator. |
| 03:23.22 | elg | that's why you should use pen and paper |
| 03:24.26 | tensai | you gonna start snail mailing out blog updates? |
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| 03:45.26 | elg | tensai: sure, send me a SASE |
| 03:45.32 | elg | er, a box of SASEs |
| 03:45.33 | elg | ;-) |
| 03:45.57 | elg | guaranteed you'll receive them the same year they're posted! |
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| 03:52.24 | nick125_treo | anyone alive? |
| 03:52.29 | graphyx | at times. |
| 03:52.57 | nick125_treo | I think you either are or not |
| 03:54.45 | graphyx | ok |
| 03:54.52 | graphyx | I can accept that |
| 03:55.01 | graphyx | but I am not usually alive here. |
| 03:55.15 | nick125_treo | aah |
| 03:55.59 | nick125_treo | brb |
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| 05:37.37 | jlund | Anyone have any advice on how to fully encrypt a laptop Linux installation? I am running Kubuntu at the moment but this is something I think it is important to get set up. |
| 05:40.07 | Tene | jlund: best solution is encryption at the filesystem level of your root partition (or whichever you want encrypted) |
| 05:57.32 | findlay | ~encrypt Tene |
| 05:59.05 | findlay | ~pirate Tene |
| 05:59.28 | Supaplex | ~annoy findlay |
| 05:59.29 | ibot | ACTION dances around findlay, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy findlay to the maximum amount |
| 05:59.40 | findlay | ~entertain Supaplex |
| 05:59.41 | ibot | ACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for Supaplex's entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík |
| 06:00.25 | Supaplex | ~lart yesterday with a sledge hammer |
| 06:00.25 | ibot | pries yesterday with a sledge hammer's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to yesterday with a sledge hammer |
| 06:00.38 | findlay | yesterday time already?! |
| 06:00.43 | findlay | nobody told me |
| 06:00.50 | Supaplex | Tue Aug 7 00:00:43 MDT 2007 |
| 06:00.57 | findlay | gah! |
| 06:02.33 | klys | which building (letter) is united online in? |
| 06:02.53 | findlay | Q |
| 06:03.00 | klys | thx man |
| 06:07.15 | findlay | ~Q klys |
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| 06:14.19 | klys | ~Q |
| 06:14.20 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, q is C * V, or quadra |
| 06:14.24 | klys | ok... |
| 06:15.33 | findlay | ibot: only if the substance is Ohmic |
| 06:15.33 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 06:16.19 | klys | so, I have some hosting now (just setting it up) |
| 06:16.31 | findlay | ~only if the substance |
| 06:16.31 | ibot | methinks only if the substance is Ohmic |
| 06:16.47 | klys | do you host a page anywhere? |
| 06:17.21 | findlay | I have my own site |
| 06:17.34 | klys | cool maybe I'll meet you sometime |
| 06:17.43 | findlay | jfindlay.us |
| 06:17.47 | klys | ah |
| 06:17.49 | findlay | not much exciting stuff there |
| 06:21.22 | klys | only, an extensive physics-related (rss?) feed and a weblog with a few entries |
| 06:22.05 | findlay | yeah it's a big ugly page that gathers all my feeds |
| 06:22.35 | findlay | there's tons of rss apps out there. I happened to pick one that's not too configurable in the way that I want |
| 06:22.52 | findlay | I do like that I can drop it into a file and read it anywhere though |
| 06:24.00 | klys | ever read, metafilter or slashdot? |
| 06:24.17 | findlay | all the slashdot feeds are in there |
| 06:24.17 | klys | I wouldn't suggest feeding them, although... |
| 06:24.36 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 06:25.49 | findlay | perceiving yourself to be intelligent all the time can be very wearisome |
| 06:25.51 | Supaplex | puke saber? heh. |
| 06:26.17 | findlay | like, it makes it hard to talk to people who don't think analytically all the time |
| 06:26.53 | Supaplex | ~define wearisome |
| 06:26.53 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 06:26.55 | klys | so, do you think that has anything to do with the article on hiring programmers? |
| 06:26.59 | Supaplex | ~dict wearisome |
| 06:27.31 | findlay | just today I was talking to a girl who said things I had little to no idea how to compute as she was not thinking or speaking in an anylitical manner. I was totally dumbfounded |
| 06:28.10 | findlay | the interesting truth about it though was that she was not thinking or speaking in a non intelligent manner |
| 06:28.26 | klys | sales employers will not even look at you if you advertise yourself as successfully analytical. no one may analyze sales. you have to be assertive and just try to sell. |
| 06:28.52 | findlay | well, I'm no salesman :) |
| 06:29.29 | klys | whether you say you can or you say you can't, you are right |
| 06:29.58 | findlay | is this the "I only tell lies" paradox in salesman garb? |
| 06:30.15 | klys | no, I spoke with an employer |
| 06:31.21 | Supaplex | how insightful |
| 06:31.26 | klys | you see, the thing is you have to be able to stand behind the product or service |
| 06:31.27 | findlay | ~insight Supaplex |
| 06:32.44 | klys | so, anyway I'm goig to try and start something maybe |
| 06:32.47 | klys | going |
| 06:32.57 | klys | since I have hosting now |
| 06:34.30 | klys | I mean it won't pick up until I have capital, though things are a bit...we'll see |
| 06:34.56 | findlay | what's the capital of Utah? |
| 06:35.02 | findlay | anyone? |
| 06:35.07 | findlay | I'll give you 5 points |
| 06:35.09 | klys | I'm estimating... |
| 06:35.11 | RyanE | Territorial, or current? |
| 06:35.32 | findlay | whichever fits better into a Gilbert and Sullivan song |
| 06:36.05 | klys | 25 billion annually? |
| 06:37.18 | Supaplex | findlay =~ s/capital/capit[oa]l/ :P |
| 06:37.50 | klys | 2.35 billion annually? |
| 06:38.05 | klys | that's probably more accurate |
| 06:38.28 | sontek | do any of you guys know what that app that generates slideshows/presentations you can use in FF? |
| 06:38.29 | klys | although... I could pay more attention to the defecit pie chart |
| 06:38.58 | klys | gah...make me look up FF |
| 06:39.11 | klys | firefox |
| 06:39.15 | klys | took a minute |
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| 06:42.24 | klys | sontek: use flash, it's better than whatever you were thinking of with ppt/presentations |
| 06:44.16 | findlay | or just use XML |
| 06:44.19 | findlay | lots of it |
| 06:44.24 | findlay | and lots and lots |
| 06:44.25 | findlay | of it |
| 06:44.34 | klys | all hand-typed? |
| 06:44.35 | findlay | just like everybody else |
| 06:44.58 | findlay | yes and no auto code completion |
| 06:45.11 | findlay | you must use nano, haha |
| 06:45.51 | findlay | no syntax hilighting or delete key |
| 06:47.56 | jlund | Hey, the web-based presentation format is called S5 |
| 06:47.57 | jlund | http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ |
| 06:50.39 | sontek | jlund: thanks, thats what I was looking for |
| 07:13.16 | jlund | Sure |
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| 13:02.24 | herlo | http://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellanea/archive/2007-05-27--the-truth-about-wireless-devices.html |
| 13:02.25 | calvarez | man, using a Mac must be a sin, because it feel soooo good :) |
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| 13:18.15 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/tom_clancy_really_happy?utm_source=onion_rss_daily |
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| 14:38.52 | elg | well, looks like i'm ta for the rough equivalent of cs 312 this semester |
| 14:39.41 | jsmith | elg: What's that (for those of us who went to heathen schools and don't understand which class that is)? |
| 14:40.45 | elg | :) Algorithms. big-oh and friends, sorting/hashing/searching and friends |
| 14:43.48 | elg | oh and data structures too, like red-black or AVL trees |
| 14:47.40 | elg | how can you tell if a DVD is dual-layered? I'm wondering whether this DVD which is 5.4 G is dual-layer or somehow transparently compressed |
| 14:51.01 | tensai | elg: take a bite. the dual-layered disks have a peppery flavor where the single layer disks taste more like basil |
| 15:11.23 | maquis | elg: that's 235/236, i thought |
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| 15:12.46 | ^Migs^ | I just found out one of my cousins has AIDS. |
| 15:12.51 | ^Migs^ | that sucks |
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| 15:14.10 | herlo | ^Migs^: HIV or AIDS? |
| 15:14.19 | ^Migs^ | AIDS |
| 15:14.44 | ^Migs^ | hence, my statement "I just found out one of my cousins has AIDS" rather than "I just found out one of my cousins has HIV." |
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| 15:24.18 | levi | maquis: 235/236 kinda covers that stuff, among other things, but 312 goes into algorithms in depth. |
| 15:24.52 | maquis | not really data structures that much, though |
| 15:25.32 | levi | Hmm, I guess so. It's been a really long time. :) |
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| 16:01.07 | beandog | so |
| 16:01.12 | beandog | anyone recommend a jabber server |
| 16:01.35 | elg | jabberd or ejabberd |
| 16:01.55 | beandog | hmm |
| 16:01.57 | beandog | bueno. |
| 16:02.06 | elg | the former if you like xml, the latter if you like feature complete and lean |
| 16:02.14 | beandog | I like xml. |
| 16:03.04 | levi | ejabberd is written in erlang, which all the cool kids are learning. |
| 16:03.14 | beandog | Im not cool. |
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| 16:04.07 | levi | Well, go with what you want, then. ;) |
| 16:04.17 | elg | how can you tell which libraries an executable is linked with? |
| 16:04.23 | levi | ldd ? |
| 16:04.24 | beandog | ldd? |
| 16:05.00 | beandog | does jabberd have to use a db backend? |
| 16:06.43 | elg | hmm, osx doesn't seem to have ldd |
| 16:06.49 | levi | I don't know anything about jabberd, sorry. |
| 16:07.07 | elg | beandog: I don't think so, but my memory is hazy |
| 16:07.16 | elg | otoh it wouldn't surprise me if it does, since XML and databases go hand in hand |
| 16:08.07 | beandog | hmm ok |
| 16:08.27 | levi | elg: Try otool -L |
| 16:09.52 | maquis | ~dict cogent |
| 16:10.50 | ^Migs^ | what's some good free software I can use for making videos? |
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| 16:12.09 | beandog | making videos? |
| 16:12.12 | beandog | define making |
| 16:20.15 | Tene | dd if=/dev/webcam of=watchmedance.avi |
| 16:21.14 | beandog | heh |
| 16:32.13 | maquis | :) |
| 16:32.57 | elg | dd if=/dev/random of=migs.avi |
| 16:37.43 | decriptor | dd if=/dev/urandom |
| 16:38.25 | ^Migs^ | The daughter of Republican presidential hopeful Rudolph Giuliani has signalled her backing for Democrat Barack Obama, US media reports say |
| 16:38.26 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 16:38.29 | ^Migs^ | that's gotta hurt |
| 16:38.35 | levi | Heh, ow. |
| 16:38.44 | decriptor | she pulled it down after that came out |
| 16:38.53 | decriptor | from her facebook or myspace can't remember |
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| 16:43.39 | tensai | beandog: I'm running jabberd 1.x and it works, but I don't know that I would recommend it |
| 16:43.49 | tensai | it was a lot of work to install and I don't dare touch it |
| 16:43.58 | tensai | gotta love that sort of server, eh? |
| 16:44.32 | beandog | yah |
| 16:44.38 | beandog | well I just need something real simple |
| 16:46.24 | Tene | There's also wildfire/openfire |
| 17:07.50 | elg | ejabberd was simple |
| 17:08.07 | elg | not exactly the traditional sort of program, in the way it's run and stuff |
| 17:08.15 | elg | but the procedure was simple iirc and the docs are good |
| 17:08.34 | nick125 | I've got a question: in my project, I currently have epydoc-generated documentation in the hg repository - I'm debating if I should remove it from the repo and require users to generate it, or what. |
| 17:08.56 | elg | if it's generated it doesn't belong in revision control |
| 17:08.58 | elg | that's my mantra |
| 17:09.10 | nick125 | elg: Good point. |
| 17:09.14 | elg | but may belong in a release, depending on what it is (e.g. configure, documentation) |
| 17:09.26 | nick125 | It's documentation generated by epydoc. |
| 17:09.47 | nick125 | The user can generate it with a quick 'epydoc -o <output dir> pymtp.py' |
| 17:09.50 | elg | i'd make a way for users to download it, but developers using hg can fend for themselves |
| 17:10.07 | nick125 | elg: Good idea. |
| 17:10.40 | nick125 | The documentation in the tree keeps falling out of date |
| 17:11.21 | findlay | my mantra is you need to blink at least 10 times a day |
| 17:12.35 | elg | i have a blinking mantra too: don't |
| 17:13.13 | maquis | <blink> sucks |
| 17:15.06 | findlay | you should always use your blinker when you change lanes |
| 17:17.36 | maquis | unless you're in utah |
| 17:21.41 | findlay | lame Utah drivers |
| 17:22.11 | goozbach | nick125: create a make target which creates the docs |
| 17:22.16 | goozbach | # make docs |
| 17:22.22 | goozbach | which runs the proper command |
| 17:22.44 | nick125 | goozbach: I don't have make file |
| 17:24.19 | elg | you should |
| 17:24.23 | elg | or something to that effect |
| 17:24.52 | nick125 | I have a setup.py file |
| 17:25.28 | elg | all the more reason to have a makefile |
| 17:25.53 | ^Migs^ | oh, earlier question. What's some good free software I can use for making videos? Basically just for recording video from a webcam, or maybe some software that lets you import from a video camera via Firewire or USB |
| 17:26.00 | ^Migs^ | something that can edit videos like Adobe Premiere |
| 17:26.04 | ^Migs^ | just anything |
| 17:27.55 | findlay | Cinderella? |
| 17:28.18 | nick125 | Kino can import from DV |
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| 17:35.12 | ^Migs^ | anything else? |
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| 17:40.28 | beandog | not really. |
| 17:50.08 | Tene | Who distributes linux software in a zip? Weird. |
| 17:50.33 | jsmith | my_softwarez.tar.Z |
| 17:50.38 | jsmith | It should be a "compress" file! |
| 17:50.47 | Tene | Heh. |
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| 19:00.42 | Shadowwire | ~lart the world |
| 19:00.42 | ibot | rm -rf's the world |
| 19:19.11 | ^Migs^ | is anyone on last.fm? |
| 19:19.21 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 19:21.12 | Jayce^ | jaycehall |
| 19:21.13 | ^Migs^ | http://www.last.fm/user/Migs789/ |
| 19:21.14 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 19:21.28 | Shadowwire | l |
| 19:22.44 | ^Migs^ | "Your musical compatibility rating with jaycehall is Very Low" |
| 19:26.08 | tristanbob | ever seen an scp copy not work with a status of "stalled"? |
| 19:26.23 | tristanbob | if so, what caused it? |
| 19:29.20 | Jayce^ | rock on :) |
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| 19:51.44 | tensai | Jayce^: you want to switch my company from Tucows Platypus to Freeside? mind you, you'll have to guarantee no data loss and no down time. |
| 19:52.44 | Jayce^ | tensai, I don't have too much experience with platypus, ivan should have more.. |
| 19:53.01 | Jayce^ | I could probably do it, but might be better to look at getting sisd at first |
| 19:53.10 | tensai | sisd? |
| 19:53.11 | Jayce^ | join us in #freeside on OFTC |
| 19:53.21 | Jayce^ | sisd is ivan's company (the project owner) |
| 19:54.12 | Jayce^ | tensai, also, get your company to send you down to UTOSC, I'm giving a deep dark tech presentation for freeside plugins.. |
| 19:54.13 | tensai | socorro independent school district? |
| 19:54.23 | tensai | Jayce^: I'm considering it |
| 19:54.52 | tensai | although realistically the chances of changing from platypus is pretty low |
| 19:55.03 | Jayce^ | tensai, best training you'll be able to get :) |
| 19:55.30 | tensai | you know what day you're presenting? |
| 19:55.43 | Supaplex | tensai: yo |
| 19:55.45 | Jayce^ | tensai, I think I'm in on Saturday now |
| 19:55.56 | Jayce^ | tensai, Supaplex here uses freeside too |
| 19:56.25 | Supaplex | sorry. phone got in the way. |
| 19:56.37 | Jayce^ | tensai, given a little bit, I could get you some better info on what freeside has over tucows |
| 19:57.28 | Supaplex | anyway tensai I wrote a Platypus -> FS migration script months ago. I don't have that one now, but I could rewrite it again. where do you work? I'm available for work btw :) |
| 19:57.50 | Jayce^ | Supaplex, he's up in Idaho :) |
| 19:58.00 | tensai | I am. my company is in Wyoming |
| 19:58.03 | Jayce^ | ah |
| 19:58.19 | Jayce^ | I've only dealt with platypus a little, and that was a while ago |
| 19:58.26 | Supaplex | I guess ssh+rdesktop will have to do ;) |
| 20:02.28 | tensai | a Plat to FS migration script, eh? We've got so many customizations, I wonder how much work it would really be. |
| 20:02.45 | tensai | Jayce^: a feature comparison would be awesome |
| 20:02.59 | Supaplex | www.sisd.com/freeside/ |
| 20:03.12 | tensai | we're considering an upgrade from v5 to v6 sometime, so that would be our only shot |
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| 20:03.40 | Jayce^ | tensai, can you also get a list of features you are looking for (personally, and what management would want?) |
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| 20:33.40 | ^Migs^ | http://englishrussia.com/?p=1199 |
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| 20:43.30 | tensai | Jayce^: who knew that we used so many features. this is gonna be a long list. |
| 20:44.19 | ^Migs^ | http://www.dropline.net/cats/kitty/clean-dazed-kitty |
| 20:58.48 | ^Migs^ | http://crunchgear.com/2006/09/28/fossil-adds-bluetooth-style-to-techie-watches |
| 20:59.35 | elg | so I go to #rubyonrails to ask if anyone has ever set up ruby and/or rails on a no-install CD |
| 21:00.46 | elg | and I get rakes over the coals by would-be intelligences that I'm *obviously* wanting to do something evil |
| 21:01.16 | levi | Um, why would that be evil? |
| 21:01.25 | elg | first, they can't fathom why or even how. so I fill them in on the details. then it's backpedalling attacks on whether sqlite or mysql would be more appropriate (huh? that doesn't take rocket science) |
| 21:02.19 | RyanE | fear of the unknown |
| 21:02.51 | elg | then they try to start throwing around geeky things like big oh notation (apparently setting up mysql instead of just using SQLite is O(2n^2) instead of O(n^2)) |
| 21:03.20 | Tene | ... |
| 21:03.36 | Tene | I'm interested in seeing the log, or at least a blog post containing parts of the conversation. |
| 21:03.56 | Jayce^ | elg, probably the same folks that recently discovered what DSL's are, and think ruby is the only language you can make them in :) |
| 21:04.24 | elg | Tene: happy to post the log, when the fun ends |
| 21:04.36 | elg | I should know better than to go to #rubyonrails |
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| 21:04.56 | elg | silly web devs :-) |
| 21:05.04 | levi | elg: Hah! |
| 21:05.57 | elg | it was surprisingly little time before I started taunting my would-be taunters |
| 21:07.23 | elg | http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/rails_advice.txt |
| 21:10.56 | elg | it's peoplle like bobross1 that write all those evil programs that require a full-fledge RDBMS for no apparent reason |
| 21:12.56 | levi | Heh, bobross1 cracks me up. |
| 21:15.06 | elg | still, I got some useful info out of the exchange. sounds like wrangling rails to not try to write to disk is going to be tedious. I could point it at $TEMP or something, but maybe camping is appropriate here |
| 21:16.48 | levi | "but what can you do when you can't write to disk?" |
| 21:17.14 | elg | :-D |
| 21:17.23 | elg | I can lart emcnabb without writing to disk |
| 21:17.25 | elg | ~lart emcnabb |
| 21:17.25 | ibot | stuffs emcnabb into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 21:17.57 | Jayce^ | he must always want that "happy little RDBMS" |
| 21:19.17 | Tene | http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/08/02/rails-and-the-notion-of-stupid-databases-being-a-good-idea/ was a good link from there, though. |
| 21:20.28 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.41 | tensai | ~onjoin elg hear ye, hear ye! elg preemptively apologizes if he inadvertently challenges the bounds of your imagination. |
| 21:27.41 | ibot | ok, tensai |
| 21:28.18 | Tene | That wasn't preemptive. |
| 21:28.39 | elg | Tene: sorry, your imagination isn't stretching far enough to imagine a different definition of preemptive |
| 21:29.48 | elg | well, that's the end of VMWare Fusion for me |
| 21:29.56 | herlo | elg: agreed |
| 21:29.58 | elg | excellent product. too bad it's not free beer |
| 21:30.20 | herlo | :( |
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| 21:31.16 | elg | although, at $60 ($40 if you buy now and take advantage of the $20 rebate) it's the most affordable |
| 21:31.27 | elg | and technically superior to boot |
| 21:31.38 | herlo | hmm |
| 21:32.11 | levi | elg: Was it a free beta? |
| 21:32.11 | jsmith | herlo: Maybe he just doesn't like you? |
| 21:32.17 | elg | not familiar with KVM, and I wasn't aware Xen worked in OS X |
| 21:32.21 | elg | yes, it was a free beta |
| 21:32.31 | levi | KVM = kernel virtual machine, also Linux-only. |
| 21:32.36 | herlo | jsmith: he's a mac guy and it figures |
| 21:32.52 | elg | as for on linux, I'm still a vmware server user |
| 21:33.01 | elg | unless they pulled the plug on that without telling me? |
| 21:33.09 | levi | Nope, it's still free afaik. |
| 21:33.23 | herlo | elg: free still |
| 21:33.32 | levi | I use it on Windows to run Linux in a vm. |
| 21:33.35 | herlo | elg: but you should *really* consider better alternatives in KVM |
| 21:33.59 | elg | I don't want to spend a lot of time on a virtual machine (cue midas commercial) |
| 21:34.10 | elg | if it's as slick as vmware, I'd be willing to try it out |
| 21:34.34 | levi | When I get my next Mac, I'll probably get vmware fusion for it. |
| 21:35.51 | levi | Jayce^: Getting a new one already? What are you going to do with your current one? |
| 21:36.08 | Jayce^ | getting one for home/family.. Still have my work one |
| 21:37.06 | levi | Ahh, I see. |
| 21:37.09 | tensai | there's a great idea. have your back-end mail server tarpit your spam filter server. |
| 21:37.16 | levi | Looking at the new iMac? |
| 21:37.20 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 21:37.24 | Jayce^ | pretty.. |
| 21:37.27 | levi | They look slick. |
| 21:37.41 | levi | And 20", too. |
| 21:37.53 | Jayce^ | now, anyone have real knowledge on the santa rosa's regular vs extreme? |
| 21:38.16 | Jayce^ | eg, going from the 2.4 to the 2.8-extreme, just how much better is it acutally? |
| 21:38.26 | elg | santa rosa what? |
| 21:38.46 | Jayce^ | chipsets, the chips in the current macs, and most current dual-core intels.. |
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| 21:51.34 | Tene | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ff_AXVlo9U -- really cool |
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| 22:15.11 | tensai | ~elg $foo is /me challenges the bounds of $foo's imagination |
| 22:15.12 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps $foo is /me challenges the bounds of $foo's imagination. |
| 22:15.19 | tensai | ~elg $foo is <action> challenges the bounds of $foo's imagination |
| 22:15.20 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps $foo is <action> challenges the bounds of $foo's imagination. |
| 22:15.55 | tensai | there's already an elg action. oh well. |
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| 22:43.43 | tensai | elg: I figured out why bloglines didn't work. it's in 65.0.0.0/8 and I had a bogus route on my router. |
| 22:44.02 | tensai | my router thought it had a /8 instead of a /28 |
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| 23:45.02 | Supaplex | tensai: I did same thing a few days ago on my new openwrt box. I pasted the ip address line into the netmask entry, and wasn't able to ping shell.xmission.com for example. :) |
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