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| 04:01.00 | nick125 | Ugh, this is such a pain. I'm torrenting 70K/s down and 18K/s up on 1.5mbit/896kbit circuit, and, I'm getting around 60% packet loss on other traffic. |
| 04:02.03 | nick125 | wi4 |
| 04:02.05 | nick125 | er |
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| 04:10.13 | nick125 | Anyone here know of an ADSL CPE that's just a CPE, not a router/NAT/firewall/coffee maker? |
| 04:21.13 | levi_home | I just told my Actiontec to be a bridge. |
| 04:22.07 | nick125 | That's what I'm thinking of doing with my Zoom X5, but, I'm not sure if my gateway can do PPPoA (I have a little pfsense box) |
| 04:22.22 | chadbryant | my friend wants to add a wireless router to their DSL (they have the old Actiontec modem that doesn't have wireless) |
| 04:22.52 | chadbryant | can they set that thing to allow the router to handle the external & internal addresses? |
| 04:23.17 | nick125 | What ISP? |
| 04:23.37 | chadbryant | Qwest |
| 04:23.53 | nick125 | Best way to do that would probably be to put the Actiontec into bridge mode, and have the router do PPP authentication to Qwest. |
| 04:24.01 | nick125 | However, not a lot of routers support PPPoA |
| 04:24.14 | nick125 | And, getting PPPoE working on Qwest.net is hit and miss. |
| 04:24.34 | chadbryant | I've never played with that particular one - all the ones I've set up were the Actiontec modems w/ wireless, or the 2wire model |
| 04:30.48 | levi_home | Qwest is sending out Actiontecs without wireless these days. |
| 04:31.15 | levi_home | Which is fine with me, since I have a Buffalo wireless router running OpenWRT. |
| 04:31.31 | levi_home | It was about $40 or so. |
| 04:31.43 | levi_home | And is an excellent piece of hardware. |
| 04:31.48 | klys | hey, do you guys know about telnetting into a cisco router? |
| 04:32.26 | klys | it's 'connection refused' on that port |
| 04:32.36 | levi_home | Probably it's turned off. |
| 04:32.42 | klys | it responds a lot quicker on port 23 than any others though |
| 04:33.02 | klys | we don't find anything in the web interface to turn it on is why I ask |
| 04:33.20 | levi_home | Perhaps you'd have to enable it with the serial CLI. |
| 04:33.25 | klys | well, another day |
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| 04:35.46 | Supaplex | la la la |
| 04:35.58 | Sargun | Happy sysadmin appreciation day guys. |
| 04:36.47 | Sargun | Anyone here good and understanding stupid policy? |
| 04:36.52 | Sargun | An organization is multi-homed if it receives full-time connectivity from more than one ISP and has one or more routing prefixes announced by at least two of its upstream ISPs. |
| 04:36.59 | Sargun | Now would a VPN out to another ISP count? |
| 04:37.36 | klys | announced == dhcp |
| 04:41.40 | Sargun | announced means BGP or paper I understand that part. |
| 04:42.20 | Sargun | Would a VPN qualify me to win? |
| 04:43.16 | klys | if you're just running poptop to get to a 192.168.x network, you don't have an isp that will make you multi-homed, I mean |
| 04:43.32 | Supaplex | no. vpn relies on an existing network |
| 04:43.55 | nick125 | brb |
| 04:44.14 | Supaplex | I suppose you could use a phone line, but - nobody in their sick mind would use that as a fail-over solution. (unless it was for one client) |
| 04:44.39 | klys | hehe, I remember using a phone line for multiple clients |
| 04:44.52 | Supaplex | granted :) but anyway. |
| 04:45.20 | Supaplex | I suppose you could use vpn on an alternate network that's no bpg happy for you, if the endpoint is able to route your ASN |
| 04:45.27 | Supaplex | s/no/not/ |
| 04:46.02 | Supaplex | and if that makes your brain hurt, that's normal. hehe |
| 04:46.05 | klys | I mean, grabbing network numbers does not make you multi-homed. use traceroute |
| 04:48.25 | Supaplex | I think I'll go grab some groceries |
| 04:48.42 | klys | eat, burritos. burritos are good |
| 04:48.58 | klys | oh, put chili on top |
| 04:49.01 | herlo | IE sucks. It can't render png's correctly |
| 04:49.34 | klys | are you running ies4linux ? |
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| 05:12.09 | findlay | Tene: so you don't think you will be in a position to accept another roomate by next spring? |
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| 05:18.16 | nick125_ | Ugh, I can't get this stupid modem into bridge mode. |
| 05:19.11 | Supaplex | bad modem! *smack* |
| 05:19.39 | nick125_ | I'm wondering, would 1483 Bridged Mode work? |
| 05:20.21 | Supaplex | closed? or dead? |
| 05:20.44 | nick125_ | Their support isn't open. |
| 05:21.17 | nick125_ | and I don't want to wait until 8am tomorrow morning for them to open |
| 05:21.23 | Supaplex | our support is gpl2 ;) |
| 05:21.30 | findlay | what should |
| 05:21.32 | Supaplex | haha ghay tagline for an isp. |
| 05:22.05 | findlay | ibot: what should I do? |
| 05:22.06 | ibot | ACTION should I do to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 05:22.32 | findlay | ibot: how do I do that? |
| 05:22.49 | findlay | -chat about recursion |
| 05:22.49 | nick125_ | I wish they sold CPEs that just were CPEs, and didn't try to do PPP, NAT, firewall, coffee maker, and toaster. |
| 05:24.05 | levi_home | nick125_: Just use bridge mode, dude. |
| 05:24.26 | nick125_ | This zoom X5 doesn't have a little button that says bridge mode like the actiontecs. |
| 05:25.45 | levi_home | What's that got to do with wishing 'they' sold CPEs that just were CPEs? |
| 05:26.11 | nick125_ | levi_home: Oh, well, mainly because most of them make it such a hassle to use it as a CPE |
| 05:26.22 | Supaplex | http://www.carlsjr.com/content_svn/coupons/teriyaki.jpg |
| 05:29.47 | nick125_ | I'm about to grab my actiontec and start using it |
| 05:29.52 | levi_home | Why do you insist on calling it a CPE, anyway? |
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| 05:31.55 | nick125_ | brb in a few minutes |
| 05:32.03 | levi_home | AFAIK, CPE just stands for customer premesis equipment. Doesn't really say what it does. |
| 05:32.15 | levi_home | What it /is/ is a DSL modem. |
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| 05:52.36 | klys | mock for sale: adsl ethernet router; no dhcp, just telnet in and type the new router ip; self-configuring. reset button, one ethernet port, power and phone jack |
| 05:53.14 | klys | that could be like, hot potato |
| 05:54.02 | klys | but, no firewall ;) |
| 05:54.28 | klys | as long as you trust the users of your router it would be ideal |
| 05:54.52 | levi_home | klys: The cable modem I got from Comcast had pretty much no user-level configuration. |
| 05:55.21 | klys | I think I had one of those comcast cablemodems once |
| 05:55.30 | levi_home | I think its service was provisioned upstream based on its hardware address. |
| 05:55.33 | klys | it was in bridge mode |
| 05:55.54 | klys | well, I thought it was in bridge mode |
| 05:55.59 | levi_home | No, it's not a bridge. |
| 05:56.14 | klys | but apparently it had an address and I was using it for a private network |
| 05:56.23 | klys | so, bleh, it had dhcp |
| 05:56.46 | levi_home | Hmm. |
| 05:57.16 | klys | see, the comcast people were trained to administer {the device} remotely |
| 05:58.17 | levi_home | I think they're essentially routers. It seems to me that dhcp requests were handled upstream of the modem. |
| 05:58.27 | klys | you're right |
| 05:58.52 | klys | but the machine with that address was a dhcp service |
| 05:58.53 | levi_home | Though with my latest one, only one machine on my LAN was able to get a dhcp address at a time. |
| 06:00.00 | levi_home | Anyway, a non-configurable DSL modem set for bridge mode seems reasonable. |
| 06:00.01 | klys | so, it was /sort of/ in bridge mode |
| 06:00.27 | klys | they had some other routing, like, cable just has routing |
| 06:00.45 | levi_home | Well, yes, though I guess that depends on what protocol was running on the cable network. |
| 06:01.07 | klys | probably just what port the cable sections were plugged into at the station |
| 06:01.42 | levi_home | Anyway, time to sleep. |
| 06:01.46 | klys | ttyl |
| 06:01.51 | klys | 'nite! |
| 06:01.53 | levi_home | Got lots of work to do tomorrow on the house. |
| 06:02.07 | klys | I'd ask, but |
| 06:02.10 | klys | 'nite! |
| 06:02.23 | levi_home | Yard work, unpacking work, and maybe some attic exploration to plan wiring. |
| 06:02.43 | levi_home | Also some plumbing work. Master toilet needs to be reseated. |
| 06:02.54 | levi_home | Anyway, really goodnight. |
| 06:03.11 | Supaplex | now it's tomorrow and you can do all that work :P |
| 06:03.27 | Sargun | HACKER SAFE Enterprise enables organizations to significantly reduce risk by providing a fully managed, proactive solution to discover and remediate network vulnerabilities on a continuous basis. |
| 06:03.31 | Sargun | I love how that means nothing |
| 06:03.54 | Supaplex | indeed. :P |
| 06:04.34 | Sargun | Step 1 - port discovery scan |
| 06:04.34 | Sargun | The first phase is a thorough, interactive port scan of the target. Accurately determining which ports on an IP address are open is the crucial first step to a comprehensive security audit. ScanAlert's proprietary firewall and IDS/IPS aware network discovery technology is designed to accurately map out any size or complexity of network topology. This is often not a simple process. Unlike most scanning solutions based on Nmap, our advanced dynamic port |
| 06:04.34 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.49 | Sargun | Using "Nmap" and "Proprietary" |
| 06:05.25 | Supaplex | luzers :P |
| 06:05.29 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.29 | Sargun | ities, which is updated every 15 minutes. |
| 06:05.41 | Sargun | Means "We look up the service in /etc/services |
| 06:05.58 | Sargun | and use some off the shelf components |
| 06:06.04 | Sargun | downloaded from a security mailing list |
| 06:06.08 | Supaplex | yup |
| 06:06.14 | Supaplex | b0ring |
| 06:33.10 | Lakshmi | hi Sargun |
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| 07:36.15 | harleypig | Is the plug jabber server not working anymore? |
| 07:38.49 | findlay | ~hack Sargun |
| 07:38.50 | ibot | ACTION teaches Sargun nethack so that Sargun will play until 6 AM |
| 07:39.23 | Sargun | o.o |
| 07:39.35 | findlay | .o. |
| 07:42.25 | Supaplex | ~^~ |
| 07:43.20 | findlay | Mr eyebrows |
| 07:43.33 | harleypig | -_- |
| 07:58.02 | harleypig | You guys want some privacy? |
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| 08:10.44 | nick125_treo | great. |
| 08:10.51 | nick125_treo | I just broke my network. |
| 08:14.33 | nick125_treo | here's the problem: I need to use the same IP range for my "internal" and "external" network. |
| 08:14.47 | nick125_treo | (I'm not doing any NAT'ing) |
| 08:15.50 | nick125_treo | and I want to use my server as the gateway. I got eth0 up with 216 |
| 08:16.11 | nick125_treo | 216.184.20.83 and that's connected to my LAN |
| 08:16.37 | nick125_treo | I've got eth1 up with 216.184.20.82 connected to my dsl modem |
| 08:25.05 | nick125_treo | I have no idea what to do. I don't want to NAT, and I can't use my assigned IP blockfor both my external interface and my internal interface. |
| 08:25.42 | nick125_treo | I also can't have my server do PPP because my ISP doesn't support PPPoE and you can't do PPPoA over an ethernet connection. |
| 08:26.08 | nick125_treo | I can't get another IP range from my ISP without them charging me :/ |
| 08:29.57 | nick125_treo | any ideas? |
| 08:31.55 | Sargun | hi nick125_treo |
| 08:32.55 | Sargun | nick125_treo, I have an idea |
| 08:33.06 | Sargun | want me to call, or you call me (925)-202-9485 |
| 08:34.19 | Sargun | but I don't see why you can't associate the same IPs internally, what happens? |
| 08:34.31 | Sargun | we |
| 08:34.32 | Sargun | er |
| 08:34.36 | Sargun | same IP block |
| 08:35.08 | nick125_treo | you'd get conflicting routes |
| 08:35.26 | Sargun | No... |
| 08:35.29 | Sargun | pickup your phone. |
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| 10:54.36 | nick125 | Anyone here use dnsmasq? |
| 10:54.59 | nick125 | I want to make an "alternate" DNS pool, just in case my primary DNS pool doesn't have any free IPs |
| 10:55.16 | nick125 | s/DNS/DHCP |
| 10:56.18 | Tene | findlay: I'm looking for another roommate very soon, but it's possible we won't find anyone until then. |
| 11:03.41 | nick125 | My ISP is going to be so pissed off at me tomorrow when I submit a request to change the RDNS on my entire subnet. |
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| 13:23.14 | elg | -lart Jayce^ |
| 13:23.20 | elg | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 13:23.20 | ibot | blasts Jayce^ to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
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| 16:23.05 | bonez39 | How would I set up a local dns server...where two different email servers will run (exim4 on one box, and zimbra email on other), with dynamic IP address, on the same LAN? |
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| 16:37.36 | Supaplex | bonez39: dnsmasq |
| 16:43.55 | bonez39 | Supaplex: ok...is this something that BIND9 would also accomplish? |
| 16:44.20 | Supaplex | sure |
| 16:46.11 | bonez39 | I run debian......just wishing i could find someone else running debian, with zimbra too...with similar situation...have googled this...few and far between, finding anyone else with this |
| 16:48.09 | Supaplex | install bind9, edit named.conf, add a few zones, edit the zone files, viola. right? |
| 16:48.20 | Supaplex | or do you want the ddns feature to? |
| 16:48.45 | Supaplex | sure, your mail servers need mx records for those domains |
| 17:02.51 | bonez39 | Supaplex: by ddns you refer to dynamic dns? I believe I want to ultimately have it set up, so that my existing email server, with exim4...is the Primary Mail Server, while the Zimbra box becomes the Secondary Mail Server...... when I attempt to run zimbra..I get the following error about MX records: DNS ERROR - none of the MX records for fyrenice.com |
| 17:02.51 | bonez39 | resolve to this host |
| 17:02.51 | bonez39 | It is suggested that the MX record resolve to this host |
| 17:02.51 | bonez39 | Re-Enter domain name? [Yes] |
| 17:05.20 | Supaplex | bonez39: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=fyrenice.com |
| 17:06.45 | Supaplex | Your 1 MX record is: |
| 17:06.47 | Supaplex | 10 mail.fyrenice.com. [TTL=1800] IP=71.195.243.49 [TTL=1800] [US] |
| 17:07.01 | Supaplex | you want another for the second |
| 17:07.35 | Supaplex | and yes, ddns = dynamic dns. but if that's not what you are after, nevermind ddns. |
| 17:08.34 | bonez39 | Supaplex: ok, ... I am not sure if I want or do not want ddns....I just want my email on existing box..running exim4 to continue working, and I want zimbra to feel like it has the MX record issue resolved so that it too can work |
| 17:10.05 | Supaplex | add the mx record for the second box |
| 17:19.28 | Sargun | Anyone here deal with the 64-bit memory problem? |
| 17:20.06 | Sargun | How do I test if my kernel is 64-bit? |
| 17:20.13 | Sargun | Assuming I'm in a 32-bit userland |
| 17:20.19 | Sargun | I know my CPU is 65-biyt |
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| 18:17.19 | bonez39 | Supaplex: still around? |
| 18:17.54 | bonez39 | Supaplex: how and where do I add the MX record for the second box? on that box's conf files, or on my primary machine's conf files? |
| 18:30.46 | bonez39 | shhhh...not all at once.... |
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| 19:23.03 | Supaplex | bonez39: yes on the primary. make sure the SOA serial number is incremented so the secondaries know a new zonefile is ready |
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