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| 00:02.21 | herlo | unum: ping |
| 00:29.04 | vontrapp | bah! i need to add signals to a gtk object and can't find how |
| 00:29.38 | vontrapp | signal_connect "changed" => no such signal: changed |
| 00:29.54 | vontrapp | but other widgets have the changed signal, so i know it's possible |
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| 00:40.00 | vontrapp | and how the heck are you supposed to get a handler_id to block a specific handler? |
| 00:40.33 | klys | you mean, with __WIN32__ ? |
| 00:58.04 | mheath | wow, that was a nightmare |
| 00:58.18 | mheath | installing and fully updating a Windows 2000 installation |
| 00:58.23 | mheath | from the originall version |
| 00:58.29 | mheath | All service packs, all updates..took hours |
| 01:04.36 | mrpull- | time = money |
| 01:04.48 | mrpull- | sounds like you shoulda bought a copy of xp |
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| 01:22.05 | mrpull- | mheath: did you install SP1 before SP2? |
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| 02:10.25 | goozbach | hello utah! |
| 02:10.35 | goozbach | treo to the recue |
| 02:10.38 | goozbach | er rescue |
| 02:11.29 | goozbach | $9.95/day for internet access? HAH! I laugh at your rediculeus price |
| 02:16.02 | nick125_ | lol |
| 02:17.24 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin redbeard |
| 02:17.24 | ibot | onjoin for redbeard set by tene on Tue May 8 15:53:21 2007: -chat about ~onjoin redbeard |
| 02:17.45 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin redbeard hope you like columbus you punk |
| 02:17.45 | ibot | goozbach: ok |
| 02:17.53 | goozbach | onjoin sjansen |
| 02:18.02 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin sjansen |
| 02:18.59 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin sjansen sjansen, goozbach says you should die a thousand deaths. FYI... |
| 02:18.59 | ibot | goozbach: ok |
| 02:28.53 | mheath | evening |
| 02:28.57 | mheath | speaking of $9.95 internet access |
| 02:29.08 | mheath | anyone know of any good dialup providers? |
| 02:29.13 | mheath | Unlimited $9.95 access.. |
| 03:18.19 | fozzmoo | XMission. |
| 03:18.28 | fozzmoo | Not 9.95 |
| 03:18.31 | fozzmoo | But you get what you pay for |
| 03:18.39 | fozzmoo | And you DID ask for "good" dialup providers. |
| 03:34.20 | tuple | http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1900/outsidemmorpgxc4.jpg |
| 03:35.04 | mheath | fozzmoo: They're local, though, aren't they? |
| 03:35.12 | mheath | I'm mainly looking for something that travels well |
| 03:35.24 | tuple | they have dialup numbers all over the place |
| 03:35.30 | tuple | specifically for travelers |
| 03:35.43 | tuple | I got online in Yuma AZ |
| 03:36.04 | tuple | local numbers |
| 03:36.05 | mheath | tuple: Your MMORPG poster is stupid and overdone. |
| 03:36.30 | tuple | there's alist somewhere |
| 03:36.30 | tuple | thanks, I'm glad you like it |
| 03:36.30 | tuple | too bad I didn't do it and can't take your compliment |
| 03:37.03 | tuple | on second thought, I think you should look into AOL dialup |
| 03:37.25 | mheath | tuple: They're actual dialup is great |
| 03:37.32 | mheath | Just not the required program |
| 03:37.53 | mheath | They even have a 1-800 number (though there is a small per minute charge) for places where there is no local number |
| 03:38.04 | tuple | they are actual dialup? |
| 03:38.25 | mheath | tuple: quiet. |
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| 04:26.06 | Lakshmi | fozzmoo!!! |
| 04:26.27 | Lakshmi | hii |
| 04:26.30 | Lakshmi | sup? |
| 04:40.19 | mheath | evening everyone |
| 04:40.31 | mheath | Why is there some 14 year old girl repeatedly on here late @ night? |
| 04:40.52 | mheath | s/14/<insert whatever the heck your age is>/g |
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| 04:44.13 | fozzmoo | Use Wyoming.com... where your Internet service is powered by buffalo. |
| 04:44.30 | tensai | we have nationwide dialup and an 800-number if you really really need it (little pricey) |
| 04:44.57 | tensai | working for a dialup provider, I have to concur with fozzmoo that you really get what you pay for |
| 04:45.10 | QBFreak | everybody's got a water buffalo |
| 04:45.24 | tensai | we tried running a cutrate brand and it was impossible to make a buck. if you do make money it's because you cut corners somewhere. |
| 04:46.28 | nick125_ | But rounded corners are the new fave! |
| 04:47.25 | polorix | lol |
| 04:47.44 | tensai | just about every isp has nationwide dialup anymore, mostly provided by level 3 |
| 04:48.04 | tensai | I see that xmission's is level 3. |
| 04:55.54 | mheath | ah |
| 04:56.10 | fozzmoo | Yeah. XMission has a nationwide thing. |
| 04:56.21 | mheath | bah, I want a job like that. Working for a plase like tensai, or a place like xmission |
| 04:56.25 | mheath | that would kick butt. |
| 04:56.32 | fozzmoo | XMission is pretty easy to get a job at. |
| 04:56.37 | fozzmoo | Doing tech support. |
| 04:56.45 | fozzmoo | It's not the best pay int he world. Probably like $12/hr |
| 04:56.54 | fozzmoo | But it has lots of karma |
| 04:57.03 | mheath | Phone in tech support stuff? |
| 04:57.08 | fozzmoo | Yeah. and IRC. |
| 04:57.08 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 04:57.22 | mheath | Nah, I want a real job. something more maintenance, or sysadmin like. |
| 04:57.36 | mheath | I can do phone in support for dell. already have that offered to me. |
| 04:57.46 | fozzmoo | Not so much karma. :) |
| 04:58.22 | tensai | about half our noc staff moved up from the tech support ranks, so it's not a bad place to start |
| 04:58.33 | mheath | I really don't want to go to college. It doesn't...fit. but its the only thing that lines up right now :P |
| 04:59.48 | tensai | my boss doesn't have a college degree and he is one of the former tech supporters (not to be confused with athletic supporters) |
| 04:59.57 | fozzmoo | heh. |
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| 05:00.55 | tensai | whoah, am I glad to have tuple out of here |
| 05:01.47 | tensai | ~onjoin tuple <action> tickles tuple with a rose bush |
| 05:01.47 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 05:02.02 | mheath | ~tensai++ |
| 05:02.21 | mheath | I'm considering going into Nuclear Engineering |
| 05:02.54 | mheath | It's a booming field at the moment, but I worry that by the time I got my degree, not so much :P |
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| 05:04.15 | fozzmoo | mheath: I would hope that nuclear engineering would be a booming field for years to come... |
| 05:04.31 | mheath | fozzmoo: Me too. |
| 05:04.40 | fozzmoo | It's the natural direction the US should go in for energy. |
| 05:06.13 | mheath | People are afraid, though |
| 05:06.26 | mheath | Because bad things happened, ages ago with antiquated technology |
| 05:07.34 | mheath | The idea of potentially being able to literally write the training materials for a school I didn't make it in appeals to me, too :P |
| 05:08.20 | fozzmoo | I don't think it's fear that's plaguing nuclear power. |
| 05:08.37 | fozzmoo | It's just environmental policy in the US |
| 05:08.49 | tensai | I'm not against nuclear power, but it too is a limited solution. there's only so much fissable material on the earth. |
| 05:09.00 | tensai | we also don't want all our eggs in one basket |
| 05:09.26 | fozzmoo | I mean, there are plenty of reactors in Europe! |
| 05:09.51 | mheath | what? |
| 05:10.07 | tensai | we are so dependent on coal-fired power here that it would take a whole heckuva lot of nuclear reactors to replace them all |
| 05:10.14 | mheath | tensai: one nuclear powered submarine can produce enough electrical energy in one DAY to power the city of new york for a year. |
| 05:10.33 | mheath | and thats from a chunk of material the size of my hand, that will last the sub for years itself. |
| 05:11.30 | mheath | tensai: the nuclear material on the earth would last us centuries, easily. |
| 05:11.42 | mheath | And there is tons of nuclear material in our galaxy |
| 05:16.02 | mheath | wow. weber state university doesn't have a single true engineering degree. |
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| 05:28.54 | tensai | I heard an interesting proposal for car fuel: water + magnesium. the magnesium oxidizes and frees hydrogen molecules, which can then create electricity |
| 05:29.17 | tensai | the magnesium is recycled by reapplying electricity |
| 05:30.04 | tensai | it's a net loss of electricity, obviously, but so is any battery |
| 05:45.38 | findlay | perpetual motion! |
| 05:45.58 | fozzmoo | Okay... when you hear the term "so called experts" who do you think of? |
| 05:46.01 | findlay | ~lart girls |
| 05:46.01 | ibot | beats girls into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 05:46.04 | fozzmoo | Like... famous people. |
| 05:46.07 | findlay | yeah! |
| 05:46.40 | findlay | fozzmoo: is this a question with a very narrow answer? :) |
| 05:46.46 | fozzmoo | Examples of names I've come up with: Al Gore, Neville Chamberlain... |
| 05:47.01 | fozzmoo | Jane Fonda, Dr. Ruth |
| 05:47.09 | fozzmoo | Rosie O'Donnell. |
| 05:47.16 | findlay | and that documentary guy |
| 05:47.24 | fozzmoo | ?? |
| 05:47.31 | findlay | moore? |
| 05:47.34 | fozzmoo | OH! |
| 05:47.37 | fozzmoo | Michael Moore. |
| 05:47.38 | fozzmoo | Excellent! |
| 05:47.49 | findlay | Dr Laura |
| 05:48.10 | fozzmoo | Oooh. Yeah. |
| 05:48.14 | findlay | heh |
| 05:48.38 | maquis | findlay: what'd i do? |
| 05:49.43 | findlay | maquis: you're an implicit exception to every one of my complaints |
| 05:49.56 | findlay | besides, you're not a girl anymore ... |
| 05:50.31 | findlay | just some girls I know being silly |
| 05:50.41 | findlay | and I know I've been a little too silly today too |
| 05:51.05 | findlay | so I just feel bad and awkward and don't know what I should do or what I should feel |
| 05:51.11 | findlay | that's all |
| 05:51.25 | maquis | lol |
| 05:51.39 | findlay | what's lol, precious? |
| 05:54.29 | findlay | I don't like hurting people's feelings. It makes me feel terrible |
| 05:54.58 | findlay | perhaps I should wish I were more gregarious |
| 05:56.09 | findlay | or garrulous |
| 05:56.57 | findlay | ibot: solve all of my problems |
| 05:56.58 | ibot | ACTION grits her teeth while attempting to solve all of my problems |
| 05:57.22 | findlay | -chat about solve findlay |
| 05:57.22 | brac | solve findlay |
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| 05:58.40 | Sargun | heh |
| 05:59.01 | herlo | ~lart findlay |
| 05:59.01 | ibot | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to findlay, and goes postal |
| 05:59.30 | Lakshmi | findlay: thank you |
| 05:59.34 | findlay | heh |
| 05:59.39 | findlay | ~shoot herlo |
| 05:59.40 | ibot | ACTION shoots herlo in the eye with a quantum singularity weapon! |
| 05:59.51 | herlo | findlay: I'm getting the distinct impression you don't like me |
| 05:59.52 | findlay | consider yourself singularized |
| 06:00.00 | findlay | :( |
| 06:00.03 | herlo | :) |
| 06:00.08 | findlay | :) |
| 06:00.18 | herlo | findlay: I'm in a bad mood |
| 06:00.33 | findlay | ~adjust herlo's mood |
| 06:00.33 | herlo | not your fault but u are good fodder |
| 06:00.48 | findlay | ~nice herlo |
| 06:00.49 | ibot | ACTION lowers herlo's priority |
| 06:00.52 | herlo | ~herlo findlay |
| 06:00.53 | ibot | ACTION pokes findlay in the eye with a sharp needle |
| 06:00.58 | findlay | ouch |
| 06:01.36 | herlo | findlay: not sure why I got that action |
| 06:02.03 | herlo | FINALLY |
| 06:02.14 | findlay | hey, it's cyberspace. You can redefine yourself however you want :) |
| 06:02.30 | mheath | Goodnight, all. |
| 06:02.33 | Sargun | night |
| 06:03.38 | findlay | ibot: herlo $mheath is <action> waits until $mheath is good and hungry before bringing $mheath dinner |
| 06:03.38 | ibot | ACTION pokes $mheath is <action> waits until $mheath is good and hungry before bringing $mheath dinner in the eye with a sharp needle |
| 06:03.45 | findlay | ibot: no herlo $mheath is <action> waits until $mheath is good and hungry before bringing $mheath dinner |
| 06:03.46 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 06:05.10 | herlo | ~herlo findlay |
| 06:05.11 | ibot | ACTION waits until findlay is good and hungry before bringing findlay dinner |
| 06:05.48 | findlay | ~findlay herlo |
| 06:05.48 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps herlo. |
| 06:06.00 | mheath | ~hurd |
| 06:06.01 | ibot | i heard hurd is The GNU Hurd is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. http://hurd.gnu.org/ It stands for HIRD of UNIX Replacing Daemons. The Hurd is a collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel, and on l4 in the future, to implement file systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are implemented by the Unix ... |
| 06:08.24 | findlay | ~hird |
| 06:08.25 | ibot | somebody said hird was Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth |
| 06:08.32 | findlay | ~hord |
| 06:08.37 | findlay | ~hard |
| 06:08.38 | ibot | hard is, like, it be question mark?, or woody |
| 06:08.54 | findlay | ~herd |
| 06:08.54 | ibot | somebody said herd was a heard of sheep, mamwmwaawawawawawawaw awmwamawmawawaw awmawmawmaw |
| 06:09.02 | findlay | heh |
| 06:09.06 | findlay | ~hyrd |
| 06:09.09 | herlo | ~horde |
| 06:09.09 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, horde is PHP application framework http://www.horde.org/horde/ used for the popular IMP web email |
| 06:09.11 | findlay | ~hwrd |
| 06:09.12 | brac | [The Horde Application Framework] |
| 06:10.26 | herlo | findlay: you crack me up |
| 06:10.45 | herlo | but I'm still ornery |
| 06:11.21 | findlay | herlo: I'm still wistful and pensive |
| 06:11.35 | findlay | silly girls |
| 06:13.04 | findlay | if you knew as many beautiful, philsophical, intelligent girls as I do, you'd be crazy too |
| 06:17.51 | herlo | findlay: how come you aren't married to one of them? |
| 06:18.06 | herlo | findlay: you are regularly wistful and pensive. Isn't that your normal demeanor? |
| 06:18.19 | findlay | how could I be a Byronic hero if I ended up married? |
| 06:18.32 | findlay | herlo: it's excessively acute tonight |
| 06:18.56 | findlay | it's a vicious paradox, I know |
| 06:19.05 | herlo | findlay: |
| 06:19.13 | findlay | but, then, what is life but a great paradox? |
| 06:19.36 | herlo | findlay: what's a Byronic Hero? |
| 06:20.22 | findlay | ~wiki byronic hero |
| 06:23.31 | findlay | basically a protagonist with a tragic flaw usually in the form of a past transgression or error of behavior that dogs his possibility for current happiness and stimulates his cynicism |
| 06:23.49 | herlo | findlay |
| 06:25.23 | findlay | sometimes I feel like a Byronic hero: both jaded and unfit for normal society |
| 06:27.15 | findlay | of course, as with any rich literary type, it is saturated with symmetries and asymetries of irony |
| 06:30.49 | herlo | f***ing internet access here sucks too!!! |
| 06:31.08 | fozzmoo | herlo: Yat? |
| 06:31.41 | herlo | fozzmoo: what? |
| 06:32.36 | herlo | I type something and 5 minutes later it shows up |
| 06:32.43 | herlo | or so it seems |
| 06:32.45 | fozzmoo | Where are you at?! |
| 06:32.57 | herlo | fozzmoo: Houston Downtown Comfort Inn |
| 06:33.35 | findlay | herlo: did you get all of my excessive rambling? :) |
| 06:34.03 | herlo | fozzmoo: its a total motel. Close to rr tracks (one just passed by 20 minutes ago) and I had to register with the night attendant from outside the hotel through bulletproof glass. |
| 06:34.05 | herlo | findlay: I did |
| 06:34.50 | findlay | herlo: doesn't sound too comfortable |
| 06:35.33 | herlo | fozzmoo: outside as I walked back from Denny's (the Motel's only redeeming quality) a cop had two guys out of their truck and was searching them for drug paraphernalia |
| 06:35.42 | herlo | or at least it looked that way |
| 06:36.00 | herlo | I already wrote a nasty letter to my company. I hope they move me without my request... |
| 06:36.33 | herlo | usually they are very good. Ahh, another train! |
| 06:36.46 | findlay | ~train herlo |
| 06:37.19 | fozzmoo | findlay: Thanks for your inspiration earlier. |
| 06:37.29 | fozzmoo | http://castro.iodynamics.com/~fozz/socalledexperts-xvid.avi |
| 06:37.30 | findlay | fozzmoo: sure |
| 06:39.03 | herlo | fozzmoo: what's that? |
| 06:39.08 | herlo | fozzmoo: the link |
| 06:39.25 | fozzmoo | I'm working on a title clip for a segment in the next episode of Solitary World |
| 06:40.04 | herlo | fozzmoo: what's solitary world?>that? |
| 06:40.13 | fozzmoo | http://www.solitaryworld.net/ |
| 06:40.16 | fozzmoo | It's my show! :) |
| 06:40.23 | herlo | train number 3 in 45 minutes |
| 06:40.28 | herlo | oh god |
| 06:40.35 | herlo | please let me sleep soon. |
| 06:40.43 | herlo | fozzmoo: what's it about? |
| 06:40.48 | fozzmoo | Good question. |
| 06:41.08 | fozzmoo | It's not really about anything specifically. |
| 06:41.09 | herlo | fozzmoo: okay, I'm watching it now... |
| 06:41.15 | fozzmoo | It's really just a |
| 06:41.27 | herlo | fozzmoo: yes? |
| 06:41.27 | fozzmoo | a way for me to get back into making some video. :) |
| 06:41.38 | herlo | fozzmoo: oh I see... |
| 06:42.00 | herlo | you should do a presenation on Podcasting with Open Source tools. I'd come to that!! |
| 06:42.30 | herlo | http://twitter.com/herlo |
| 06:42.36 | herlo | this is why my night sucks |
| 06:42.55 | nick125_ | herlo: Do a podcast on podcasting with open source tools. |
| 06:42.59 | herlo | I don't think I've ever been given a fake phone # before |
| 06:43.07 | herlo | nick125_: that'd be cool too. |
| 06:43.30 | fozzmoo | herlo: I wish I could use all open source tools for this project. |
| 06:43.30 | herlo | nick125_: I don't know anything about how to podcast. Let alone where to start... |
| 06:43.44 | fozzmoo | Unfortunately, nothing exists sophisticated enough for my needs. |
| 06:43.46 | herlo | fozzmoo: find some and show us all how too... |
| 06:43.53 | herlo | :( |
| 06:44.00 | fozzmoo | Maybe in a year or so. |
| 06:44.08 | herlo | ~herlo proprietary podcasting tools... |
| 06:44.09 | ibot | ACTION pokes proprietary podcasting tools... with a sharp needle |
| 06:45.42 | fozzmoo | Audio podcasting with open source software is easy-cheezy. |
| 06:45.57 | fozzmoo | Lots of tutorials on how to do it using Audacity and other tools. |
| 06:46.02 | fozzmoo | But video... not so much. |
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| 06:46.34 | findlay | I bet you could fix something up in bash |
| 06:46.56 | findlay | who needs anything but bash? |
| 06:47.23 | herlo | findlay: funny |
| 06:47.49 | findlay | I bet you could get by on nothing but bash and water |
| 06:47.55 | herlo | fozzmoo: yeah, mencoder can convert the video, but importing it could be challenging |
| 07:00.19 | Supaplex | ~lart yesterday |
| 07:00.20 | ibot | executes killall -TERM yesterday |
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| 14:26.09 | bonez31 | :) |
| 14:27.14 | goozbach | good morning #utah |
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| 14:27.20 | goozbach | yay teaching again! |
| 14:27.25 | goozbach | boo hotel beds |
| 14:28.38 | bonez31 | goozbach: how would you move an application, which opens...but jammed up into the top of your monitor...? |
| 14:31.05 | goozbach | you oculd try launching it with the geometry switches |
| 14:31.14 | goozbach | I don't remember how to do that |
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| 14:46.11 | Tene | bonez31: more details? |
| 14:51.55 | goozbach | the |
| 14:52.32 | goozbach | I'm assuming that the application launches but is soo far off the screen towards the top that you cant get to it to resize |
| 14:52.35 | goozbach | or move |
| 14:57.01 | bonez31 | Tene: the application is gtk-gnutella... |
| 14:58.04 | bonez31 | Tene: I launch it at the command prompt..it opens, and I see the lower right half of its parent window..... I run fluxbox, though not sure that matters, but I can resize the bottom all day, but can't grab the top to move it down..to get to the menu or controals in gtk-gnutella |
| 15:00.12 | Tene | bonez31: hold alt and you should be able to grab and drag it with the mouse |
| 15:01.52 | bonez31 | Tene: thank you thank you...... |
| 15:02.09 | Tene | bonez31: no problem. :) |
| 15:02.40 | Tene | bonez31: also many desktop environments have a "clean up windows" option somewhere in the menus that will move everything all the way on screen. |
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| 15:03.05 | Tene | I don't know if fluxbox has that. |
| 15:03.30 | bonez31 | Tene: not sure if fluxbox has that or not....but your suggestion worked |
| 15:04.15 | Tene | also, perhaps search for 'geom' in the man page. many apps respect a -geom or -geometry option on the command line to tell it what size and where to make windows. |
| 15:05.31 | maquis | bonez31: if you alt-click, does that let you move it? |
| 15:05.46 | Tene | maquis: yes, it did |
| 15:06.02 | maquis | heh... |
| 15:06.03 | maquis | i should read |
| 15:06.25 | Tene | nah, reading is lame. |
| 15:08.37 | bonez31 | maquis: yeah, it does..... |
| 15:09.21 | bonez31 | maquis: have another cup 'o coffee...no....coke...no...diet coke ... no.. caffeine free diet coke..no way..what's the point then, no sugar..no caffeine..no fun... |
| 15:09.48 | maquis | hey... who said no sugar? |
| 15:11.18 | bonez31 | well, it seems lots of people .. are hooked on that nasty carcinogenic aspartame laden diet soda....I prefer the sugar myself....tastes better...even better is Coke brewed south of the border where they sweeten with cane sugar instead of corn syrup |
| 15:11.42 | maquis | the one thing i don't do is large amounts of carbonation |
| 15:12.03 | mheath | bonez31: even better than that is completely naturally flavored local sodas :) |
| 15:12.05 | bonez31 | maquis: none of it is healthy... |
| 15:12.11 | maquis | my stomach has strong feelings against carbonation -- probably because i didn't have carbonated drinks much growing up |
| 15:12.22 | mheath | bonez31: sure it is. |
| 15:12.23 | bonez31 | mheath: naturally flavored local soda, eh? who in utah makes great sodas? |
| 15:12.27 | mheath | Sugar is not unhealthy |
| 15:12.40 | mheath | Sugar in _excess_ is unhealthy |
| 15:12.42 | bonez31 | sugar in limited quantities is fine...just not in several sodas a day.... |
| 15:12.52 | bonez31 | water, air...anything in excess is unhealthy... |
| 15:12.57 | goozbach | sugar is good vform me |
| 15:12.58 | maquis | sugar in juices isn't bad |
| 15:13.03 | mheath | bonez31: I don't know about Utah; I know when I was visiting Colorado a few weeks ago, I discovered a couple good soda companies |
| 15:13.04 | goozbach | yayayayayay! shughar |
| 15:13.39 | mheath | Vanilla cream soda made with natural vanilla beans, spring water, pure cane sugar... :) |
| 15:13.51 | bonez31 | maquis: ah, but it's far better to eat the whole fruit or veggie..instead of just the water, sugars, and other liquids extracted into juice..but yeah, sugar in natural juice is far better than in soda.. |
| 15:14.05 | maquis | bonez31: true... but i like it in juice :) |
| 15:15.08 | goozbach | sugar! |
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| 15:34.37 | shadowwire | SUP? |
| 15:41.02 | mheath | SUP?! |
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| 16:26.23 | mheath | Hmm |
| 16:28.16 | decripto2 | sssh! no talking |
| 16:28.53 | mheath | What options are there for bandwidth management in Linux? |
| 16:29.02 | mheath | IE, say I have a hosting provider tat limits bandwidtih |
| 16:29.10 | mheath | and I want to force my host into observing the bandwidth limit |
| 16:30.41 | maquis | decripto2: <whisper>are we sneaking up on TimRiker??</whisper> |
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| 16:34.09 | elg | mheath: what sort of limit? a per-second cap? a per-month cap? |
| 16:35.17 | elg | for throttling the rate, you can use iptables or a more sophisticated (and no harder, perhaps easier) approach with wondershaper |
| 16:35.33 | elg | if you don't want simple throttling, things get harder |
| 16:35.43 | mheath | elg: per-second cap |
| 16:35.45 | elg | http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ |
| 16:35.46 | brac | [Wonder Shaper] |
| 16:35.57 | mheath | wonder shaper will do a per-second cap? |
| 16:36.01 | elg | you just set the appropriate cap in there |
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| 16:36.19 | elg | not literally per-second cap, but it throttles to a specific rate (e.g. so many bits per second) |
| 16:36.28 | elg | which is what I think you mean |
| 16:36.38 | elg | and you get qos for free :) |
| 16:36.41 | mheath | well, yeah |
| 16:37.15 | mheath | It has a full desktop install of Fedora on it -.- |
| 16:38.16 | TimRiker | ~whaleslap maquis |
| 16:38.17 | ibot | ACTION beats maquis upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 16:43.46 | maquis | hey! |
| 16:43.54 | maquis | ~whaleparry TimRiker |
| 16:43.55 | ibot | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry TimRiker's attacks. |
| 16:49.27 | TimRiker | ~bzfrag maquis |
| 16:49.28 | ibot | ACTION skewers maquis with a super bullet |
| 16:50.01 | mheath | ooh, good thing I have pilot-link on my server |
| 16:50.22 | mheath | You know, for next time I want to sync a palm pilot with a remote machine that doesn't have any real hardware. |
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| 16:51.46 | maquis | ~whaleflog TimRiker |
| 16:51.56 | maquis | ~trout TimRiker |
| 16:51.57 | ibot | ACTION slaps TimRiker around a bit with a large trout! |
| 17:12.40 | mheath | goozbach: ping |
| 17:14.02 | mheath | Hmm. My options: Take a free dental cleaning + fillings from the VA, or use good health insurance to get a cheap-but-not-free appointment with a good dentist |
| 17:14.29 | mheath | I've heard horror stories from everyone I know about the VA hospital =\ |
| 17:15.11 | maquis | mheath: go with the cheap-but-not-free option |
| 17:16.11 | mheath | I'd be elligible for lifetime healthcare at the VA, if I hadn't gotten screwed over by doctors |
| 17:17.07 | mheath | "So, you're getting kicked out for a medical condition. By the way, here, sign this statement saying you understand we found you have no medical conditions that would cause you be discharged." |
| 17:17.16 | mheath | It doesn't make SENSE |
| 17:17.32 | maquis | ........ |
| 17:20.04 | mheath | yes, maquis ? |
| 17:25.59 | calvarez | mheath, what was that? |
| 17:26.28 | calvarez | that sucks man |
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| 17:27.53 | mheath | calvarez: standard crap they made me sign when I was being discharged. |
| 17:28.15 | mheath | Heh, the funny thing is, I'm convinced that I could overturn their decisions and get back into the military if I wanted to |
| 17:28.27 | mheath | But, no, I think two failed military careers is enough for a lifetime |
| 17:28.30 | dataw0lf | maybe that's not the best idea |
| 17:28.33 | dataw0lf | rite |
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| 17:29.41 | mheath | I don't think I would have been kicked out for the orthopedic stuff |
| 17:29.44 | mheath | although I was going down that road |
| 17:29.55 | mheath | I worked my butt off, to get able to pass an alternate form of the PFA |
| 17:44.02 | ^Migs^ | at least now you have a world of opportunity open to you |
| 17:44.46 | ^Migs^ | no longer tied down by the military |
| 17:47.15 | mrpull | mheath: do you really think the few weeks you spent in the service should entitle you to life long health benefits? |
| 17:49.39 | mheath | mrpull: "the few weeks"? I was in for half a year. |
| 17:49.53 | mheath | 7 months, if you count total service |
| 17:51.05 | mheath | mrpull: I have some major health problems that were caused by / agrivated by military service. |
| 17:51.30 | bonez31 | mheath: did the military lose much of your health records? or did they seem to find them when needed? |
| 17:51.39 | mrpull | most people get 7 months of coverage if they work for 7 months at most jobs |
| 17:51.56 | maquis | yup |
| 17:52.06 | maquis | maybe 8 depending on what time of the month they quit |
| 17:52.07 | mrpull | maybe less if there is a probation |
| 17:52.16 | ^Migs^ | can you file for disability? |
| 17:52.30 | maquis | (graned, the 8 means that they quit, not that they were fired/kicked out of the office) |
| 17:52.44 | mheath | mrpull: OK, but the military provides lifelong healthcare if your in for 24 months, or if you're discharged for health problems |
| 17:53.16 | mheath | My only point was, they managed to discharge me for health issues, and at the same time make me sign a thing saying I wasn't discharged for health issues :P |
| 17:53.39 | mrpull | then you were foolish |
| 17:53.51 | maquis | mheath: then you shouldn't've signed it |
| 17:53.58 | mheath | LMAO |
| 17:54.02 | mheath | Tell you what |
| 17:54.16 | mheath | You join the military, then tell a Captain "no" when you're told to sign something. |
| 17:54.37 | mheath | Or, you know what... |
| 17:54.42 | maquis | mheath: why do you care? |
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| 17:54.45 | maquis | you're leaving anyways |
| 17:55.11 | mheath | maquis: Because I'd already waited about a month waiting to go home. HItting every possible bump in the road, while delay stacked on delay. |
| 17:55.19 | mheath | It was retarded. |
| 17:55.23 | mheath | I wanted to get out of there. |
| 17:55.31 | maquis | mheath: so, you got frustrated and signed something that you shouldn't've signed |
| 17:56.08 | mheath | maquis: More or less. I would have fought it, and a lot of things, if I wasn't already frustrated with waiting endlessly to get out of there. |
| 17:56.33 | maquis | mheath: so, whose fault was it that you signed it? |
| 17:56.47 | ^Migs^ | uh |
| 17:57.04 | mheath | maquis: The high ranking officer who told me I _had_ to sign it. |
| 17:57.04 | ^Migs^ | so if a captain told you to sign something that relinquished all your assets over to your commanding officer, you'd do it? |
| 17:57.13 | ^Migs^ | you don't HAVE to do anything you don't want to do |
| 17:57.13 | maquis | mheath: no |
| 17:57.45 | mheath | They also knocked me down to an E-1 before I got discharged, even though I was entitled to stay as an E-3 |
| 17:57.54 | maquis | unless they have you tied down and physically force your hand to sign the paperwork, you made a decision |
| 17:58.04 | mheath | That doesn't _really_ matter much, but that was just kind of symbolically kicking me while I was down |
| 17:58.14 | maquis | you made that decision based on some stress they put you under, but you were the one that made the decision to sign that paper |
| 17:58.18 | mheath | maquis: I followed an order. |
| 17:58.24 | maquis | mheath: so? |
| 17:58.35 | maquis | there are times when following an order is wrong |
| 17:59.06 | maquis | you chose to follow an order |
| 17:59.24 | Supaplex | fud! ;) |
| 17:59.42 | ^Migs^ | I fail to see the point of you having to sign something when you're just "ordered" to do it |
| 18:00.12 | ^Migs^ | I would appeal this, and say you were acting under duress |
| 18:01.16 | mheath | Do you think its wrong for a psychologist to complete most of a written report on you and a statement on your condition _before_ even meeting with you? |
| 18:01.22 | maquis | mheath: sure |
| 18:01.42 | maquis | that has nothing to do with whether you signed paperwork that isn't true |
| 18:04.07 | mheath | maquis: No, I was trying to slightly change the subject. I'm tired of people attacking what I do, how I think, and how I react to things because they're convinced they understand by thoughts and situation more than I do. Seems thats all everyone has been doing lately, in the military and out. |
| 18:04.24 | mheath | I'm working on an ObjNet Technical Overview document |
| 18:04.45 | mheath | I'm going to submit it to some of the mailing lists as kind of a RFC, get some comments and feedback |
| 18:06.01 | maquis | *shrug* |
| 18:06.30 | maquis | seems like that's what you wanted, since you kept bringing it up every time i actually look in the channel... |
| 18:07.55 | mheath | maquis: what? I've hardly brought up my health issues with the Navy in here, at all. |
| 18:08.01 | mheath | Sorry I brought it up now. |
| 18:08.07 | mheath | I usually don't discuss it. |
| 18:11.29 | goozbach | mheath: pong |
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| 18:13.17 | mheath | goozbach: see PM |
| 18:13.31 | herlo | http://hci-matters.com/blog/?p=8 |
| 18:13.32 | herlo | this is a great article about why the keyboard is better than the mouse |
| 18:14.50 | mheath | herlo: It's arguably more efficient, but its more complex to use. |
| 18:15.06 | mheath | Keyboard input relies on lots of per-program knowledge to be really effective |
| 18:15.31 | mheath | whereas mouse input, while less efficient, lets a consistent visual experience help guide the user. |
| 18:16.31 | dataw0lf | bull. Standard keyboard shortcuts can reduce an enormous amount of mouse input. |
| 18:16.54 | dataw0lf | Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-X, Ctrl-D, Ctrl-K, Ctrl-A etc etc etc |
| 18:17.38 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I'd love to play all video games with nothing but the keyboard |
| 18:17.49 | mheath | dataw0lf: yes, for a very small subset of common tasks, though |
| 18:17.54 | mheath | Take firefox, for example |
| 18:18.02 | mheath | Firefox has all kinds of neat shortcuts for interacting with it with the keyboard |
| 18:18.13 | mheath | BUt to be efficient with it, you have to KNOW them all |
| 18:18.17 | mheath | and a lot of them are specific to firefox |
| 18:18.22 | herlo | fozzmoo: I use a cordless (bluetooth) mouse |
| 18:18.28 | dataw0lf | and a lot of them are not specific to firefox |
| 18:18.34 | ^Migs^ | I saw a mouse in my bathroom today |
| 18:18.38 | mheath | With the shortcuts you suggested, I can do all of paste an address in. |
| 18:19.21 | fozzmoo | It's difficult to navigate to a specific link in a page using non-mouse navigation. |
| 18:19.39 | herlo | fozzmoo: did you see the link at the bottom for a non-mouse gui? |
| 18:20.08 | fozzmoo | But, I have to laugh every time I see someone open a new tab by right clicking in the tab bar and choosing "New Tab" |
| 18:20.14 | fozzmoo | herlo: Bottom of what? |
| 18:20.26 | fozzmoo | Oh- that link you posted. |
| 18:23.43 | findlay | -urls herlo |
| 18:23.43 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help urls' |
| 18:24.45 | findlay | -chat about incorrect usage |
| 18:24.45 | brac | incorrect usage and gives it to maquis |
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| 18:25.41 | herlo | fozzmoo: yeah |
| 18:27.34 | Supaplex | -chat about JoshH |
| 18:27.34 | brac | JoshH had |
| 18:28.32 | findlay | -chat about -chat about |
| 18:28.33 | brac | -chat about ~onjoin tene |
| 18:28.51 | findlay | -chat about ~lart |
| 18:28.51 | brac | ~lart had |
| 18:28.52 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets had feel it |
| 18:34.59 | shadowwire | wha? |
| 18:36.14 | shadowwire | I use the keyboard and mouse in conjunction. It realy speeds things up. You should try it. |
| 18:47.01 | Tene | oh? I type less than half speed when I only have one hand on the keyboard. |
| 18:47.30 | findlay | Tene: you haven't mastered the art of Computer Interface. Try again |
| 18:48.17 | mheath | Jayce^: ping |
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| 19:12.34 | shadowwire | nice |
| 19:13.52 | goozbach | yay! |
| 19:13.57 | goozbach | pineapple |
| 19:20.15 | goozbach | fozzmoo: seen the recent plug thread about video editing? |
| 19:21.06 | Jayce^ | pong |
| 19:22.08 | mheath | Jayce^: I was wondering if you'd have any suggestions about buying a eye-glasses friendly paintball mask. |
| 19:23.01 | Jayce^ | masks are very much a personal thing, because of face shapes.. |
| 19:23.13 | Jayce^ | most are designed to go over standard glasses |
| 19:23.26 | Jayce^ | what's your budget? |
| 19:23.30 | mheath | my current mask doesn't fit over my glasses... |
| 19:23.34 | mheath | Not wanting to spend more than $50 |
| 19:23.51 | Jayce^ | maybe look at the older JT flex 7 then |
| 19:24.34 | mheath | Jayce^: and one more thing.. |
| 19:24.45 | mheath | any tips on anti-fogging? |
| 19:24.53 | Jayce^ | thermal lens |
| 19:25.19 | herlo | Jayce^: is there a good facemask that doesn't fog up? |
| 19:25.21 | Jayce^ | or on the newer higher end, there are single pane that are true no-fog (grillz and i3) |
| 19:26.04 | herlo | Jayce^: how much? |
| 19:26.14 | Jayce^ | my flex7's never did, JT thermals.. |
| 19:29.10 | mheath | I'm excited. I'm definately going up to Aliens with a group |
| 19:30.06 | Jayce^ | I see the alpha series of JT's with thermals for about $35 online |
| 19:30.24 | Jayce^ | nvaders for $30 |
| 19:30.35 | Jayce^ | just make sure you get thermal lenses in that price range, for no fog.. |
| 19:30.42 | Jayce^ | "fog resistant" won't cut it.. |
| 19:30.48 | mheath | what do they do as far as lense compatibility? |
| 19:30.58 | mheath | I have a cheap JT mask... |
| 19:31.07 | Jayce^ | jt's have about 2 main size/shapes |
| 19:31.29 | Jayce^ | you can buy replacement thermal lenses at millenium up there, or pegleg for about 20-25 probably |
| 19:31.33 | Jayce^ | and buy thermals |
| 19:31.52 | Jayce^ | you'll have "elite" or "spectra" types |
| 19:32.00 | Jayce^ | those are the two main JT lines |
| 19:32.56 | dataw0lf | JT spectras are pretty decent |
| 19:33.03 | Jayce^ | right now, my main ones are : http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=7k7JHQEwsmTJ2keiYtgJtQvkkIY16YCB7Zs=?ProductID=7a7AqArbWiEAAAEOmFSgmEMx |
| 19:33.24 | herlo | Jayce^: too long, tinyurl it |
| 19:33.35 | Jayce^ | herlo, bleh |
| 19:33.41 | herlo | Jayce^: too long |
| 19:33.44 | mheath | Jayce^: Any tips on getting my marker tested / make sure its working correctly? |
| 19:33.48 | herlo | ctrl-click doesn't work |
| 19:33.55 | Jayce^ | herlo, WFM :) |
| 19:34.02 | mheath | I haven't fired this thing in a while.. |
| 19:34.07 | Jayce^ | mheath, take some paint out in a yard, and fire :) |
| 19:34.08 | herlo | Jayce^: I'm lazy and you should help me continue to be lazy |
| 19:34.19 | Jayce^ | if you know how, take it apart, check all the seals for wear |
| 19:34.35 | Jayce^ | herlo, yeah, but that would take work on my part... and I'm more lazy |
| 19:34.42 | Jayce^ | never underestimate the power of the lazy side |
| 19:34.42 | herlo | Jayce^: nah, I am |
| 19:35.04 | herlo | Jayce^: I won't be able to buy them, and if you want me to play paintball with you one day, you might encourage me a little |
| 19:35.07 | herlo | :) |
| 19:35.40 | Jayce^ | herlo, you saw them before on an old blog post of mine.. |
| 19:35.42 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 19:35.56 | herlo | Jayce^: maybe, but I don't remember... |
| 19:36.09 | mheath | heh, I'm definately getting a different hopper |
| 19:36.14 | mheath | Reading some reviews on my current one online |
| 19:36.16 | herlo | Jayce^: tinyurl |
| 19:36.30 | Tene | My brother is apparently getting into paintball a lot lately. |
| 19:36.30 | mheath | One site, with like 200 reviews, ends up with an average of 3.1/10 :P |
| 19:36.30 | herlo | Jayce^: with the FF plugin its literally two extra clicks at most |
| 19:36.49 | Jayce^ | if it's more than a middle click, it's too much |
| 19:36.51 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 19:37.06 | mheath | Jayce^: I know I asked you this before, but could you recommend a decent but cheaper hopper? |
| 19:37.15 | Jayce^ | VL revolution |
| 19:38.26 | mheath | "with X-Board"? |
| 19:38.31 | Jayce^ | yup |
| 19:38.48 | Jayce^ | simple, efficient, will go faster than you'll be able to shoot.. |
| 19:38.50 | Jayce^ | cheap |
| 19:39.04 | bonez31 | what's the file called, which contains a link and other data...for a music/audio stream? |
| 19:39.05 | dataw0lf | I've busted two hoppers in as many months |
| 19:39.07 | mheath | hopefully QUIETER than this piece of crap I have right now |
| 19:39.11 | bonez31 | is it just a 'stream' or called something else? |
| 19:39.36 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, yeah, I'm on my third shell on mine :) |
| 19:39.46 | Jayce^ | and I've stopped using lids on it too, went through way too many of those |
| 19:39.59 | dataw0lf | yea, lids are worthless |
| 19:40.04 | Jayce^ | just get a drain valve from a hardware store, makes loading easier |
| 19:40.14 | dataw0lf | oh yea? |
| 19:40.35 | Jayce^ | basically the same thing as an expensive speedloader cover, for about a buck |
| 19:40.42 | dataw0lf | nice |
| 19:42.17 | Tene | bonez31: playlist |
| 19:43.20 | bonez31 | Tene: ok....I am using ryhthmbox....to play some music on my box here..and I have a folder with several links to various cool streams...but I try to open them in ryhthmbox and it refuses to open them.... |
| 19:43.33 | Tene | Hmm. |
| 19:48.45 | bonez31 | Tene: any ideas? |
| 19:55.47 | bonez31 | Tene: nevermind ; I figured it out... |
| 19:55.59 | decripto2 | anyone used rhel5 in here |
| 19:56.07 | bonez31 | I needed to hit RADIO..... just a keyboard interface error.... |
| 19:56.20 | Tene | bonez31: oh, huh |
| 19:56.22 | Tene | decripto2: yes |
| 19:56.43 | decripto2 | have you used XEN, rhel5 as dom0 and rhel5 as domUs |
| 19:57.05 | decripto2 | also what version on XEN is rhel5 using |
| 19:57.07 | decripto2 | ? |
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| 19:58.15 | decripto2 | I have to use sles10sp1 |
| 19:58.42 | decripto2 | which seems to run everything great except paravirtualized rhel5] |
| 19:58.49 | decripto2 | full runs fine |
| 19:59.00 | Supaplex | I only have one last instances of vmware (linux guest;linux host) to migrate (50% there) |
| 19:59.26 | Supaplex | s/instances/instance/ |
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| 20:30.05 | ^Migs^ | we actually hired a consultant from BEA to come help us upgrade/install a new server |
| 20:30.18 | ^Migs^ | he's some Injun fellow, and I don't think he has a clue what he's doing |
| 20:30.29 | ^Migs^ | he's kind of a weirdo. He was standing outside my cubicle just staring at the back of my head for a minute. |
| 20:30.50 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 20:31.13 | ^Migs^ | we're paying thousands of $$$$ for this guy, and he has 5 days to perform this installation |
| 20:31.20 | findlay | ok, why does UVSC teach *one* class each of linear algebra and ODE's per semester? |
| 20:31.26 | findlay | lame |
| 20:31.27 | ^Migs^ | it took us initially a few hours to do it. I don't know why it's supposed to take him so long |
| 20:31.33 | findlay | super lame |
| 20:31.57 | findlay | ^Migs^: he's union, probably |
| 20:31.59 | ^Migs^ | the idea of getting a consultant was so he could "optimize" the server for our needs, but I don't think Sanjay here is cut out for it |
| 20:32.08 | ^Migs^ | I mean, he was asking me how to download the installer files. |
| 20:32.14 | ^Migs^ | "Uh, just download them off your web site." |
| 20:32.48 | Supaplex | hahaha |
| 20:32.55 | Supaplex | what's he installing? |
| 20:33.20 | ^Migs^ | BEA WebLogic Server 8.1SP6 |
| 20:33.48 | ^Migs^ | we were going to upgrade to version 9, but given BEA's track record, that would be a disaster |
| 20:34.12 | ^Migs^ | I don't even know what he's been doing all day. He hasn't even opened the installer yet. |
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| 20:34.34 | ^Migs^ | and he sure took a long lunch |
| 20:34.43 | sjansen | goozbach: The weather in Columbus is pretty nice this week. |
| 20:35.06 | sjansen | Betcha FL is just hot and sticky. |
| 20:35.30 | ^Migs^ | WTF |
| 20:35.43 | ^Migs^ | Mohinder here just tried to upgrade the wrong server |
| 20:36.47 | ^Migs^ | maybe we should just fire him now before this gets out of contrl |
| 20:37.12 | sjansen | Anybody know if David Evans is a #utah regular? I recognize the name from somewhere... Has Derek already announced he's our newest guru? Sweating down in FL with goozbach. |
| 20:37.54 | mrpull | dang. sounds like GL is growing like a weed |
| 20:37.58 | mrpull | still hiring? |
| 20:38.10 | findlay | a non flowering weed? |
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| 20:39.21 | sjansen | mrpull: For a little longer. I think we're looking to hire one more person. From the sound of it, there's already a really strong candidate, but I haven't been able to find out a name yet. |
| 20:39.39 | goozbach | sjansen: he's not a regular |
| 20:39.43 | findlay | ~weed sjansen |
| 20:39.53 | sjansen | ~toke findlay |
| 20:39.53 | mrpull | good for you guys. that is encouraging to hear from lots of angles. |
| 20:39.57 | goozbach | but he's a gnu guy |
| 20:40.05 | findlay | heh |
| 20:40.17 | goozbach | sjansen: we're not in florida, we are in Anaheim California |
| 20:41.04 | sjansen | Dang. Now you've gone and made me launch a thread trying to decide which is worse. |
| 20:41.42 | goozbach | florida, hands down |
| 20:41.45 | sjansen | Kernel level, so it'll be hard to kill. Probably an NP complete problem, so no idea how long it'll take. Let's just hope is isn't resource hungry. |
| 20:41.53 | goozbach | california is less sticky |
| 20:42.01 | sjansen | Yeah, but it's CA. |
| 20:42.12 | goozbach | you only refered to weather |
| 20:42.19 | goozbach | weather is much nicer in Ca than FL |
| 20:42.28 | sjansen | At the end of the day, even if your in FL you're not in CA... you might not be in the USA either, but that's another issue. |
| 20:42.59 | goozbach | if you are including other criteria, then yes it's NP complete |
| 20:43.04 | ^Migs^ | what are your plans, mheath? Are you going to stay in Utah? |
| 20:43.35 | goozbach | sjansen: tell redbeard that sinuhe says hi |
| 20:44.52 | goozbach | sjansen: speaking of NP complete |
| 20:44.53 | goozbach | ... |
| 20:44.58 | goozbach | chekc out xkcd |
| 20:52.30 | sjansen | goozbach: *sheesh* That's _so_ this morning. |
| 20:54.20 | ^Migs^ | I got to see Transformers last week. |
| 20:54.23 | ^Migs^ | What a great movie. |
| 20:54.56 | goozbach | it totally didnt' suck |
| 20:55.55 | sjansen | goozbach++ |
| 20:56.07 | sjansen | You stole the words from my mouth. |
| 20:56.32 | ^Migs^ | I seriously felt like a little kid again |
| 20:57.06 | findlay | more than meets the TTY |
| 20:57.27 | goozbach | I was soooo scared it was gonna suck |
| 20:57.32 | goozbach | and it didn't |
| 20:57.41 | dataw0lf | same here |
| 20:57.41 | findlay | I heard the writing wasn't that great |
| 20:57.45 | dataw0lf | the writing was meh |
| 20:57.47 | goozbach | my GF laughed at me through the entire thing however |
| 20:57.51 | dataw0lf | but who went to hear them talk? |
| 20:57.55 | goozbach | caus I was geeking out |
| 20:58.11 | dataw0lf | goozbach: what did you think about them making megatron a fighter jet, though? |
| 20:58.27 | findlay | goozbach: you let your geek show in the theater?! |
| 20:58.36 | findlay | did they confiscate your trio? |
| 20:58.50 | findlay | and make you swear allegiance to the MPAA? |
| 20:59.40 | ^Migs^ | agreed |
| 20:59.46 | ^Migs^ | I thought there were some great jokes |
| 21:00.07 | ^Migs^ | Shia LaBeouf is great in it |
| 21:00.23 | ^Migs^ | seriously, Optimus Prime is WAAAAYYY cool |
| 21:00.43 | ^Migs^ | I personally thought the Megatron Fighter Jet was okay. It fit. |
| 21:01.02 | ^Migs^ | The idea I got is that the Transformers could theoretically become whatever they wanted |
| 21:01.16 | ^Migs^ | with those scannermajigs |
| 21:01.40 | ^Migs^ | awesome battle scenes |
| 21:02.49 | goozbach | bumblebee is still my favorite |
| 21:03.10 | ^Migs^ | agreed |
| 21:03.33 | ^Migs^ | even though, iirc, he was originally a Volkswagen Beetle and not a Camaro |
| 21:04.08 | goozbach | meh, he's still kickass |
| 21:04.34 | ^Migs^ | oh definitely |
| 21:04.37 | ^Migs^ | I like the Camaro transition |
| 21:05.20 | Jayce^ | hey, I'll buy *any* GM if it comes with that chick... |
| 21:06.34 | dataw0lf | I'd probably give up a hand too |
| 21:06.40 | goozbach | amen |
| 21:06.54 | goozbach | no I, I want both hands for that |
| 21:07.03 | goozbach | maybe a foot |
| 21:07.08 | goozbach | but not my hands |
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| 21:07.18 | dataw0lf | the greatest thing about Transformers was, it was 2 1/2 hours long, and I didn't want it to end right up until the credits |
| 21:07.20 | Jayce^ | I mean really, was anybody even pretending to look at bumblebee's engine in that scene? |
| 21:07.38 | dataw0lf | I looked at AN engine |
| 21:07.42 | dataw0lf | just not bumblebee's |
| 21:07.48 | ^Migs^ | same here, dataw0lf |
| 21:07.50 | Jayce^ | optimus beheading bonecrusher.... |
| 21:07.57 | dataw0lf | yea, that was sick |
| 21:07.59 | Jayce^ | best... fight... ever.. |
| 21:08.21 | Jayce^ | did you hear apparently the dvd version will have several scenes cut out of the movie :/ |
| 21:08.21 | mrpull | Jayce^: isn't that actress like thirteen? |
| 21:08.37 | Sargun | Jayce^, Whyy? |
| 21:09.08 | Jayce^ | mrpull, she's 21 :) |
| 21:09.16 | mrpull | i'm teasing |
| 21:09.55 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, just for you then... http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0418279/Ss/0418279/T14446EDIT.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0418279 |
| 21:09.58 | brac | [Transformers Photos] |
| 21:10.29 | dataw0lf | my god |
| 21:10.49 | dataw0lf | getting drool in my keyboard, thanks a lot Jayce^! |
| 21:10.54 | Sargun | NSFW NSFW NSFW!!! |
| 21:10.55 | Sargun | :-P |
| 21:11.07 | Sargun | o.O |
| 21:11.13 | Sargun | I thought this was a movie for geeks |
| 21:11.22 | Jayce^ | in what was is that NOT? |
| 21:11.25 | Sargun | Where are the naked keyboards? |
| 21:11.42 | Sargun | and the hot, hot CPUs? |
| 21:11.45 | dataw0lf | geeks |
| 21:11.46 | dataw0lf | not nerds |
| 21:11.49 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 21:13.41 | dataw0lf | the only thing that could've been better in Transformers is if Isla Fisher was in it too |
| 21:13.44 | dataw0lf | naked |
| 21:14.04 | Sargun | I thought this was a family channel! |
| 21:14.21 | Tene | Where do you think families come from, Sargun? |
| 21:14.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:14.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently the hood of a transformer. |
| 21:14.41 | findlay | l4m3rz |
| 21:14.49 | Sargun | haha |
| 21:15.13 | dataw0lf | "the hood of a transformer" |
| 21:15.15 | dataw0lf | rolol |
| 21:15.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's funny because it's true ;) |
| 21:15.41 | Jayce^ | that was the new camaro, end scene :) |
| 21:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That it was |
| 21:16.50 | Jayce^ | so goozbach, what days will you be in town for? |
| 21:18.23 | dataw0lf | I really liked the 'lubrication' bits |
| 21:18.26 | dataw0lf | I was cracking up |
| 21:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:18.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that was entertaining |
| 21:18.54 | Jayce^ | along with bumblebee's music |
| 21:19.36 | dataw0lf | the fight scenes were bumblebee was defending the girl and the boy were pretty sweet too |
| 21:20.06 | Tene | So, how will the movie be for someone who knows nearly nothing about Transformers and didn't grow up watching the cartoons or reading the comics? |
| 21:20.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I do have to wonder just what twisted mind thought up the "happy time" scene |
| 21:20.47 | dataw0lf | Tene: I'd still think it'd be pretty entertaining |
| 21:20.53 | dataw0lf | the special effects are just unbelievable |
| 21:21.11 | Sargun | happy time? |
| 21:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd have to watch it to understand what I'm talking about. |
| 21:21.33 | Sargun | ok. |
| 21:21.44 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the most incredibly broken yet funny scenes |
| 21:21.49 | Sargun | who thinks that this will work? (programmy) |
| 21:22.11 | Jayce^ | Tene, please tell me you're talking about somebody else, or else I'll have to /ignore you :-p |
| 21:22.39 | Tene | Jayce^: I've read some wikipedia pages a while back... |
| 21:22.57 | Jayce^ | ScytheBlade1, "We could just call it Sam's Happy Time" |
| 21:23.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the one. |
| 21:24.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I nearly died. |
| 21:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, so did everyone else |
| 21:24.56 | dataw0lf | the car sales scenes were pretty funny too |
| 21:25.30 | ScytheBlade1 | "Four thousand." (insert erratic look here) |
| 21:26.39 | dataw0lf | or when he's talking to the jock |
| 21:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Hahaha |
| 21:27.06 | dataw0lf | "Yea, I think you and your friends would like this book, cuz it's got little mazes and some color pages" |
| 21:27.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Or where he's trying to give her a ride home |
| 21:28.51 | dataw0lf | hehe or when the Combat Controller guy is trying to call the pentagon, and gets that Indian guy |
| 21:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol that was nothing short of epic |
| 21:29.26 | Jayce^ | Sir, that kind of attitude won't get you anywhere.. (picks his nose) |
| 21:30.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I did really enjoy that mini robot too |
| 21:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | He was just creative |
| 21:31.07 | dataw0lf | or when the military uses the allspark to demonstrate |
| 21:31.12 | dataw0lf | "oh yea, Nokias are feisty" |
| 21:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | One thing I didn't like - the excessive product placement |
| 21:31.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, the Mountain Dew machine.. |
| 21:32.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Product placement? Yup |
| 21:32.03 | dataw0lf | yea, dude, the mountain dew machine was rad |
| 21:32.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Awesome? Yup |
| 21:32.21 | dataw0lf | I mean, if you're going to do product placement, that's the way to do it |
| 21:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | It's true |
| 21:33.37 | Jayce^ | I like the xbox going nuts :) |
| 21:33.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I missed that one :/ |
| 21:34.22 | dataw0lf | it was on only briefly |
| 21:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Still though... "Sam's Happy Time" |
| 21:35.05 | ScytheBlade1 | There are no words.. |
| 21:37.05 | Sargun | Aw, this system only have 4G of RAM |
| 21:37.11 | Sargun | 3.8G free :-( |
| 21:37.32 | herlo | Sargun: shut up! |
| 21:37.42 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.45 | Sargun | herlo, o.O? |
| 21:37.53 | Sargun | not my machine, my dev machine. |
| 21:37.58 | Sargun | well, sorta my machine |
| 21:38.04 | herlo | ~lart Sargun |
| 21:38.04 | ibot | declares Sargun a moron |
| 21:38.13 | herlo | ibot: thank you, that was perfect |
| 21:38.13 | ibot | herlo: pas de quoi |
| 21:38.29 | Sargun | ibot, shutup your stupid bot. |
| 21:39.39 | findlay | -lart ibot |
| 21:39.44 | findlay | hehe |
| 21:40.24 | findlay | -chat about ~lart ibot |
| 21:40.25 | brac | ~lart ibot for installation |
| 21:40.25 | ibot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on brac for installation |
| 21:42.31 | herlo | Sargun: calling a bot stupid is like calling Tim Riker Stupid.... |
| 21:42.55 | findlay | herlo: that guy from star trek? |
| 21:43.06 | findlay | that was a robot? |
| 21:43.48 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 21:44.49 | findlay | ~laugh |
| 21:44.49 | ibot | ACTION rolls around on the floor laughing |
| 21:45.27 | fungus | Will Riker is from Star Trek |
| 21:45.39 | fungus | Tim Riker is the guy who wrote blootbot |
| 21:45.43 | fungus | ~blootbot |
| 21:45.44 | ibot | rumour has it, blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 21:45.47 | brac | [B L O O T B O T . H O M E] |
| 21:46.08 | findlay | he didn't write it, but yeah, it's bloated |
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| 22:15.40 | mheath | so wait |
| 22:15.47 | mheath | if your machine has 4GB of RAM... |
| 22:15.54 | mheath | why can't you share some of that wiht your VPS customers? :) |
| 22:15.59 | mheath | ~nick125 Sargun |
| 22:16.00 | ibot | ACTION puts Sargun on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes Sargun use Gentoo on there. |
| 22:17.11 | herlo | findlay: haha, nice try... you're not that dumb |
| 22:17.28 | findlay | I always make sure I get the Gib DIMMs instead of the GB ones |
| 22:18.03 | findlay | it's like a bonus |
| 22:18.21 | herlo | findlay: true |
| 22:18.47 | findlay | herlo: they don't sell RAM in GB or MB increments though :) |
| 22:18.54 | findlay | only HDDS |
| 22:19.46 | findlay | s/S/s/ |
| 22:20.13 | findlay | s/*/Call me Ishmael./ |
| 22:22.28 | findlay | s/.*/Life's but a walking shadow./ |
| 22:22.48 | herlo | ~poo findlay |
| 22:22.49 | ibot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at findlay |
| 22:23.04 | findlay | ~shakespeare herlo |
| 22:23.05 | ibot | ACTION stands up and quotes Shakespeare: herlo - Thou impertinent elf-skinned scullian! |
| 22:26.37 | dataw0lf | welp |
| 22:26.40 | dataw0lf | I just got served duty papers |
| 22:26.53 | findlay | where to? |
| 22:27.22 | findlay | Utah :) |
| 22:27.29 | dataw0lf | heh, I assume Iraq |
| 22:27.37 | dataw0lf | they want me back with the 75th. |
| 22:27.51 | dataw0lf | it went to my parents house, so I'm just going to forget she called me |
| 22:28.05 | dataw0lf | hell, if I drink enough beer tonight, I MAY forget, this sounds like a solid plan |
| 22:28.11 | findlay | heh |
| 22:29.53 | herlo | dataw0lf: you shouldn't have said anything in IRC, now they REALLY know! |
| 22:30.04 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 22:30.05 | dataw0lf | <_< |
| 22:30.17 | dataw0lf | My address is 1039 Timbuktu, Anchorage, Alaska |
| 22:30.20 | herlo | dataw0lf: nice |
| 22:30.32 | herlo | dataw0lf: that's where your parents live? |
| 22:30.42 | dataw0lf | nope, it's , uh, where I'm living |
| 22:30.52 | findlay | sed -i -e "s/.*dataw0lf.*//g" irc://irc.freenode.net/#utah |
| 22:30.55 | herlo | dataw0lf: cool. Nice weather there? |
| 22:30.58 | Sargun | dataw0lf, Make sure you didn't get sent to Fort Meade or something, that wouldn't be too bad. |
| 22:31.24 | Sargun | :-P |
| 22:31.32 | findlay | ~sed Sargun |
| 22:31.34 | dataw0lf | yea, except for the loss of, oh, about 65k a year in income or so |
| 22:32.12 | Sargun | I think members of the NSA make a lot of money |
| 22:32.33 | findlay | yeah but the NSA is also 3vil |
| 22:33.08 | dataw0lf | also, the fact that I didn't graduate from MIT may keep me from getting one of those cush NSA jobs |
| 22:33.25 | Sargun | findlay, So, they have money? |
| 22:33.28 | Sargun | and guns |
| 22:33.32 | Sargun | and money... |
| 22:33.48 | dataw0lf | http://www.miamiherald.com/457/story/163895.html |
| 22:33.49 | findlay | Sargun: neither money nor guns will wrest me from my principles |
| 22:33.49 | brac | [Reservist fighting his fifth war call-up - 07/08/2007 - MiamiHerald.com] |
| 22:35.04 | findlay | ~shoot Sargun |
| 22:35.05 | ibot | ACTION shoots Sargun in the eye with a glue gun! |
| 22:36.57 | findlay | and that includes glue guns! |
| 22:39.12 | Sargun | Microsoft should stop being smart |
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| 22:43.39 | mheath | dataw0lf: trade you |
| 22:43.44 | mheath | I'll go to Iraq, you can stay here. |
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| 22:49.36 | mheath | uh, not cool. |
| 22:49.48 | Tene | you don't like netsplits? |
| 22:50.09 | mheath | Tene: I don't like it when freenode comes crashing down around me :P |
| 22:50.34 | Tene | So... you don't like netsplits. |
| 22:50.50 | mheath | Meh. |
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| 22:53.39 | mheath | dataw0lf: Like I was saying...I'll trade you. I go to Iraq, you stay. |
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| 22:54.16 | dataw0lf | mheath: yea, sure. |
| 22:54.18 | Supaplex | so that's what happens when the ircd overheats. |
| 22:54.46 | findlay | Sargun: did you turn off the AC on the ircd again? |
| 22:54.46 | dataw0lf | or perhaps you should offer that to a NASA astronaut, mheath. "I'll go to Mars, you can stay, buddy" |
| 22:54.47 | mheath | dataw0lf: good luck, though. That sucks. |
| 22:54.52 | findlay | s/Sargun /upaplex / |
| 22:55.27 | findlay | ~lart slow networks |
| 22:55.27 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, slow networks!" and lops off slow networks's head |
| 22:55.27 | mheath | I'm worried I'll here about one of my friends from MCRD dieing over there |
| 22:55.27 | mheath | Though I wouldn't recognize it, probably. Didn't know any of their first names |
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| 22:56.47 | mheath | dataw0lf: I _was_ in the military, you know. And if I had chosen any other job than the one I did, I would have been out in the fleet instead of getting discharged. Your sarcasm doesn't have to stoop quite _that_ low. |
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| 22:57.32 | dataw0lf | mheath: it just seems that your offer is ridiculously unrealistic and tasteless. |
| 22:57.44 | mheath | dataw0lf: It also seems like my offer was a silly friendly joke. |
| 22:58.11 | dataw0lf | nevermind |
| 22:58.29 | mheath | OK, sounds good. |
| 23:01.12 | findlay | I hope the intertubes are OK |
| 23:01.27 | mheath | the intertubes are DEAD! |
| 23:01.55 | mheath | SEE! |
| 23:02.09 | mheath | Remote killed the intertubes. |
| 23:04.26 | Sargun | lol |
| 23:06.46 | Supaplex | I have errands to run. have fun with the netsplit rollercoaster |
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| 23:07.33 | findlay | aw |
| 23:07.38 | findlay | sure, run |
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| 23:16.43 | shadowwire | how odd? |
| 23:16.57 | goozbach | sod? |
| 23:17.04 | shadowwire | Wad? |
| 23:17.17 | shadowwire | What? |
| 23:18.08 | shadowwire | * as does shadowwire |
| 23:18.16 | mheath | ... |
| 23:18.17 | shadowwire | Wait howd you do that? |
| 23:19.09 | decripto2 | anyone have any experience with kmod/kmp stuff |
| 23:19.27 | shadowwire | no |
| 23:19.57 | shadowwire | What is kmod/kmp |
| 23:19.59 | shadowwire | sorry |
| 23:20.51 | decripto2 | its I think so that you don't have to recompile your drivers when you upgrade your kernel |
| 23:21.35 | findlay | ~spell etiquette |
| 23:22.07 | findlay | shadowwire: there is no etiquette here :-) |
| 23:22.10 | shadowwire | Thank you. I was wondering how to spell etiquette. |
| 23:22.30 | shadowwire | can you spell meringue? |
| 23:22.36 | shadowwire | wait. .. dang. |
| 23:22.40 | findlay | ask the bot |
| 23:23.12 | shadowwire | I feel very out of place. |
| 23:23.36 | findlay | ~lart shadowwire |
| 23:23.37 | ibot | gives shadowwire a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 23:23.46 | findlay | now, consider yourself welcomed |
| 23:23.56 | findlay | :-) |
| 23:24.06 | shadowwire | Thanks :-) |
| 23:24.27 | shadowwire | Does everyone here use Linux? |
| 23:25.16 | shadowwire | 2 X 0 = 0 |
| 23:25.26 | decripto2 | nope never touched in a day in my life |
| 23:25.34 | decripto2 | now where did I mount that disk |
| 23:25.43 | findlay | I'm wearing a Linux shirt, does that count? |
| 23:25.48 | shadowwire | i see. |
| 23:26.14 | shadowwire | I guess i asked a stupid question. |
| 23:26.31 | findlay | I ask stupid questions all the time |
| 23:26.40 | findlay | that's what they pay me for here |
| 23:26.47 | decripto2 | there is no such thing as a dumb question |
| 23:27.14 | shadowwire | oh? |
| 23:27.33 | shadowwire | Just lots of inquisitive idiots? |
| 23:27.39 | findlay | sure |
| 23:27.47 | decripto2 | just people that have just got out of meetings and its the end of the day. and yes |
| 23:28.02 | findlay | meetings? |
| 23:28.13 | decripto2 | yup work meetings |
| 23:28.14 | findlay | man, I'm so glad I don't have to go to meetings at work :) |
| 23:28.19 | shadowwire | Ah yes the everlasting meetings. |
| 23:28.23 | decripto2 | products to ship deadline to meet |
| 23:28.44 | Estwald | Dual booting 'Doze and Fedora Core 7 here. |
| 23:29.07 | findlay | but, there are consequences, mainly I'm the only person skilled enough in what I do here to have a meeting with. Lots of n00bs to deal with :/ |
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| 23:29.44 | shadowwire | that sucks |
| 23:29.52 | shadowwire | mooo? |
| 23:29.55 | Estwald | ..and yes, I'm a n00b at Linux... |
| 23:30.01 | fozzmoo | MOO! |
| 23:30.12 | findlay | aw, he left |
| 23:30.34 | fozzmoo | Well, he got his moo affirmation. He had no reason to stay. |
| 23:30.40 | findlay | true |
| 23:31.27 | Estwald | Had no staying power. |
| 23:32.48 | decripto2 | we didn't scare off a new comer did we? |
| 23:33.01 | beandog | Fedora Core? Repent, before its too late! |
| 23:33.14 | Estwald | heheheheheee |
| 23:37.08 | decripto2 | Fedora Core what? What is that |
| 23:37.09 | decripto2 | ? |
| 23:37.12 | decripto2 | never heard of it |
| 23:37.19 | decripto2 | must be all that great |
| 23:37.28 | decripto2 | s/must/must not |
| 23:37.36 | Estwald | Dual booting 'Doze and Fedora Core 7 here. |
| 23:37.47 | decripto2 | never heard of it |
| 23:37.54 | decripto2 | must not be all that great |
| 23:37.55 | Estwald | oops, didn't mean to repost... |
| 23:37.59 | decripto2 | ah |
| 23:38.08 | decripto2 | I figured that I'd follow |
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| 23:38.13 | decripto2 | and double post too |
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