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| 03:30.08 | Maladjusted | *crickets* |
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| 04:22.48 | mheath | so |
| 04:22.58 | mheath | I am officially a registered full time student :) |
| 04:27.18 | mheath | and I'm excited because I'm releasing ObjNet soon.. |
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| 04:50.28 | levi_home | mheath: Congrats. |
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| 13:20.42 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for content free discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | Vote for Pedro |
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| 14:37.20 | maquis | goozbach: ping |
| 14:51.40 | goozbach | maquis: pong |
| 14:54.13 | maquis | goozbach: where's my server? |
| 14:54.25 | goozbach | umm... |
| 14:54.33 | goozbach | should be up and running |
| 14:54.36 | goozbach | I'll look |
| 14:54.45 | maquis | thx |
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| 15:24.13 | tensai | -lart maquis |
| 15:31.31 | Tene | goozbach: did you break maquis' server? |
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| 15:51.47 | goozbach | Tene: she did it herself |
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| 15:57.02 | findlay | tensai: did you get the files? |
| 15:57.27 | tensai | findlay: it would appear I did. many thanks. |
| 15:57.38 | findlay | great |
| 16:10.35 | goozbach | "did you get the stuff?" |
| 16:10.46 | goozbach | "dave's not here man" |
| 16:11.44 | s4founder | no, I'm here |
| 16:12.21 | s4founder | but I can't tell you how often I hear that quote |
| 16:15.26 | Jayce^ | "no man, I'm dave... Open the door!" |
| 16:16.02 | s4founder | wait -- if you're dave . . . am I Jayce^ |
| 16:16.09 | s4founder | man . . . I'm confused |
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| 16:59.13 | rsimpkins | When does your technical career end? |
| 16:59.27 | rsimpkins | At what age are you considered 'over the hill' and not usefull? |
| 17:00.35 | neybar | how old are you? :-p |
| 17:00.58 | rsimpkins | I'm just wondering. |
| 17:02.32 | Tene | rsimpkins: depends a lot on how you age. some people get incompetent with age and alzhiemers and such, and some don't. |
| 17:02.36 | rsimpkins | When we are all in our fifties will we still get work? |
| 17:03.15 | rsimpkins | Nearly the entire company I'm at now is in the 25-35 range. |
| 17:03.28 | Tene | rsimpkins: also, technology these days is changing very rapidly, and it only looks like it will continue to increase. I think it's foolish to be trying to make predictions about society that far off. |
| 17:03.56 | rsimpkins | Well, forget the future. How about now? How many fifty-soemthing hackers do you know? |
| 17:05.42 | sjansen | rsimpkins: None. Go home and take a nap, grandpa. |
| 17:05.57 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I think you are older than me! So :P~~~~ |
| 17:06.27 | Tene | rsimpkins: only a few. |
| 17:07.07 | Tene | How many fifty-somethings do you know that are still working? What field are they employed in? |
| 17:07.10 | rsimpkins | Well, maybe that is just because we are the first 'real' major IT generation? |
| 17:07.26 | rsimpkins | Tene: I know A LOT of fifty-somethings still working. |
| 17:07.46 | rsimpkins | Tene: firefighters, police officers, city folks, teachers, etc, etc. |
| 17:08.34 | Tene | "city folks"? |
| 17:09.09 | rsimpkins | People who work in various capacities in various cities. |
| 17:09.28 | Tene | Okay. |
| 17:10.39 | rsimpkins | It seems most large IT departments these days are less than 15 years old. So maybe that has somethign to do with it. |
| 17:10.44 | Tene | Probably. |
| 17:11.10 | Sargun | Most nuclear weapons engineers are in their late 40s and 50s. |
| 17:11.14 | rsimpkins | I think the exception is education. |
| 17:11.24 | rsimpkins | How many older folks work in IT in the universites, etc? |
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| 17:12.34 | rsimpkins | Sargun: That's a very good point. 30 years ago the the nuclear industry was mostly younger, in their 20's and 30's. Right? |
| 17:12.49 | Sargun | Yeah.. |
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| 17:16.02 | tristanbob | I hope I am still employable in my 50s (if I want to be) |
| 17:16.21 | tristanbob | just need to keep my skillset updated |
| 17:16.54 | tristanbob | it's not the age that matters, it is how useful you are |
| 17:17.47 | rsimpkins | tristanbob: Well, like it or not, there is some age descrimination that occurs. |
| 17:17.55 | Sargun | I mean, look at it from an employer's prospective |
| 17:18.24 | Sargun | Young people are less likely to die, more competitive, less likely to retire, less likely to exercise their benefits, |
| 17:18.29 | Sargun | learn faster |
| 17:18.44 | Sargun | Don't need to be paid as much |
| 17:19.14 | tristanbob | Sargun: that is true (can't say anything about the learning ability though) |
| 17:19.41 | tristanbob | Sargun: cheaper health insurance |
| 17:20.09 | tristanbob | does that mean I need to become a manager once I lose my ability to learn? |
| 17:21.00 | rsimpkins | tristanbob: A manager, or a millionaire.' |
| 17:21.45 | Sargun | Haha |
| 17:24.58 | Lakshmi | sargun poke |
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| 17:38.26 | mheath | morning everyone |
| 17:42.49 | rsimpkins | "Why did your server shutdown? No. I will NOT let you pass unti you tell me why!!!" - Windows Server 2003 |
| 17:43.01 | QBFreak | rsimpkins: spacebar! |
| 17:43.26 | QBFreak | at least thats what I always tell it |
| 17:43.32 | rsimpkins | QBFreak: I'd prefer not to trick my Server OS in to doing what it wasn't designed to do. ;) |
| 17:43.44 | mheath | What? O.o |
| 17:43.52 | rsimpkins | I'm sure there is a way to turn off that 'feature' |
| 17:44.08 | QBFreak | possibly, but its easier to just put a space in the box and move on :) |
| 17:47.58 | mheath | I'm excited. I'm officially a registered full time student. :) |
| 17:48.06 | mheath | bah |
| 17:48.17 | sjansen | You sound excited. |
| 17:48.29 | mheath | what was that college student study time management website that someone kept suggesting to me about a year ago? |
| 17:48.33 | mheath | I wish I could remember |
| 17:48.35 | mheath | sjansen: Kinda am. |
| 17:48.56 | mheath | *shrug* I'm not too excited about college, but its the only thing I can think of doing now. Just excited to be doing _something_. |
| 17:49.15 | mheath | Just taking general requirementations right now.......I don't think I want to stay at weber for CS classes. |
| 17:49.49 | sjansen | I'm excited. I'm officially switching job to become a knife juggler. |
| 17:49.53 | sjansen | *snore* |
| 17:50.24 | mheath | eh? O.o |
| 17:50.41 | s4founder | sjansen: the trick to being a successful knife juggler is this: catch the non-pointy ends |
| 17:51.18 | sjansen | mheath: "I'm excited... bah" I'm drawing attention to the contrast. My brain labels such behavior as "humorous". |
| 17:51.53 | mheath | the bah was unrelated. |
| 17:52.05 | sjansen | Although some occasional question the accuracy of my ability to recognize humor. |
| 17:52.06 | mheath | it was tied to my frustration with the next statement |
| 17:52.13 | mheath | being unable to remember what that website was |
| 17:52.20 | s4founder | so how do I announce that I have a small contract available? should I do it here, or post to the respective mailing lists, or both? |
| 17:52.48 | sjansen | The lists'll give you a larger audience. |
| 17:52.56 | s4founder | ah, indeed |
| 17:53.03 | mheath | 'small contract'? :P |
| 17:53.13 | sjansen | The channel'll limit it to only your "closest" friends. |
| 17:53.20 | s4founder | very small $300 |
| 17:53.25 | s4founder | but it's a small job, too |
| 17:53.32 | sjansen | Or is that "closet" friends? |
| 17:53.36 | s4founder | lol |
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| 17:55.21 | mheath | grrr |
| 17:55.30 | mheath | what is the name of that stupid website? |
| 18:02.01 | mheath | so, question |
| 18:02.19 | mheath | why does searching google for "site:ibot.rikers.org utah study" return 0 results... |
| 18:02.29 | mheath | while "site:ibot.rikers.org study utah' returns 111? |
| 18:02.57 | mrpull | google is an enigma that is never to be understood |
| 18:03.15 | s4founder | all of the results are used up in the "study utah" match, and none are left over to match "utah study" |
| 18:03.25 | s4founder | that's my story, and I'm sticking to it |
| 18:03.39 | mheath | ah, sounds good and perfectly sensical. Thank you, s4founder. |
| 18:08.52 | QBFreak | s4founder: you've got work available? |
| 18:09.49 | s4founder | yes, a very small project. I need to get a web-based helpdesk running and configured for a SLC nonprofit |
| 18:10.02 | s4founder | and it has been nothing but frustration for me |
| 18:10.10 | s4founder | I have the requirements document |
| 18:10.28 | s4founder | but don't know much about the various helpdesk packaged available |
| 18:10.44 | QBFreak | I know nothing of them, so you're doing better than I would :) |
| 18:10.51 | s4founder | :) |
| 18:11.09 | mrpull | helpdesk can mean a lot of different things |
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| 18:11.48 | s4founder | indeed |
| 18:12.01 | mrpull | so having the requirements doc is a good thing |
| 18:12.11 | s4founder | basically, they need clients to be able to make support requests |
| 18:12.18 | mrpull | i am a fan of request tracker |
| 18:12.32 | s4founder | that was our first choice |
| 18:12.34 | mrpull | but it is powerful and exactly easy |
| 18:12.55 | s4founder | but I can't figure out how to configure it just how they want it |
| 18:13.16 | s4founder | if you know how, mrpull, I've got a little cash . . . :) |
| 18:13.28 | mrpull | can you say which non-profit it is? |
| 18:13.31 | s4founder | yes |
| 18:13.37 | s4founder | dharmatech |
| 18:13.47 | s4founder | they're a nonprofit technology service provider |
| 18:13.56 | s4founder | they probably have the expertise to do this |
| 18:13.58 | s4founder | but not the time |
| 18:14.12 | s4founder | I have the time, but apparently lack the expertise |
| 18:14.36 | mrpull | what is the gist of the hangup? |
| 18:14.57 | s4founder | just that I have been unable to make the necessary customizations |
| 18:15.34 | s4founder | for example: request tracker is close, but they want the client to see the full ticket submission form when they log in (and no the "quick" form) |
| 18:16.03 | mrpull | i'm comfortable with the out of the box configuration, but not customizing |
| 18:16.03 | s4founder | there are also a few options that need customizing -- some of which might be just changing the name/title of the option |
| 18:16.33 | mrpull | there are some talented perl guys on the sllug/plug lists. i bet one of them can assist. |
| 18:17.05 | s4founder | yeah, I think posting to those lists will be my best option |
| 18:17.13 | findlay | I can do PERL |
| 18:17.32 | findlay | perl -e 'print "I can do PERL!!\n"' |
| 18:17.53 | mrpull | Practically Everything Related to Llamas? |
| 18:27.07 | mheath | really stupid question: is it considered improper at all to bring a laptop into university classes for note taking, etc. ? |
| 18:27.44 | s4founder | I know I always bring my laptop to clasees |
| 18:27.49 | s4founder | classes |
| 18:32.02 | mrpull | mheath: it is just a distraction. use pen and paper |
| 18:32.34 | mrpull | plus taking notes in math/physics is tough on a computer |
| 18:32.50 | Tene | not if you use LaTeX |
| 18:32.50 | mrpull | (unless you are one of the geeks that can pound out latex on the fly) |
| 18:33.14 | s4founder | unless you know how to use formula functionality (which I do in OOo) |
| 18:33.49 | mrpull | plus... copy your notes from paper to the pc later on as a review |
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| 18:43.07 | Lakshmi | hi people |
| 18:43.35 | s4founder | and what? no greeting for us non-people?????? |
| 18:44.11 | Lakshmi | hi other things! |
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| 18:44.15 | Lakshmi | :P |
| 18:44.21 | mheath | see |
| 18:44.26 | mheath | elg is a moose |
| 18:44.34 | mheath | you didn't greet _him_. |
| 18:44.43 | Lakshmi | hi animals! |
| 18:44.49 | Lakshmi | better? |
| 18:44.54 | mheath | Slightly. |
| 18:45.05 | Lakshmi | so how are you all? |
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| 19:16.26 | Lakshmi | poke |
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| 19:32.53 | tensai | ~onjoin -elg |
| 19:32.53 | ibot | ok, tensai |
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| 19:57.37 | rsimpkins | How do some of these guys out there get jobs?? Changing partitions on an enterprise class server, without a clue what they are doing, with no backups. |
| 20:01.49 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, coworker? |
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| 20:23.18 | sjansen | Lakshmi: I'm a mineral. Why won't you greet me? |
| 20:23.49 | sjansen | rsimpkins: ex-coworker? |
| 20:23.50 | Lakshmi | cause i dont greet rocks |
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| 20:25.36 | sjansen | when there's maquis is #utah |
| 20:25.43 | sjansen | there is joy in every sound |
| 20:25.45 | sjansen | when there's maquis is #utah |
| 20:26.58 | Tene | It means that sjansen's typing or grammar aparently suffer after lunch. |
| 20:27.09 | maquis | hmmm |
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| 20:27.10 | Tene | As, apparently, do mine. |
| 20:27.20 | maquis | how do i make irssi reload its config? |
| 20:27.26 | Tene | /reload |
| 20:27.39 | maquis | ~say maquis |
| 20:27.39 | ibot | maquis |
| 20:29.01 | sjansen | Tene: After lunch. Before lunch. During lunch. |
| 20:29.16 | sjansen | ~say uncle |
| 20:29.17 | ibot | uncle |
| 20:29.21 | sjansen | ~say it |
| 20:29.22 | ibot | it |
| 20:29.56 | sjansen | ~say sjansen's beard is better looking than redbeard2's beard |
| 20:29.57 | ibot | sjansen's beard is better looking than redbeard2's beard |
| 20:30.13 | redbeard2 | ibot_: don't lie. |
| 20:32.22 | findlay | levi_home, maquis: I'll have you know I ate a hamburger yesterday that was thoroughly pink inside |
| 20:33.34 | maquis | findlay: how was that? |
| 20:33.39 | maquis | are you dead yet? |
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| 20:35.14 | sjansen | Rare and medium rare steak can be good if the meat is high quality. Rare hamburger is just plain wrong. |
| 20:36.29 | redbeard2 | rare hamburger is just another (incorrect) name for steak tartar |
| 20:38.52 | sjansen | Whatever you call it, the quality of meat used in most hamburgers should only be served well to charcoal. |
| 20:41.12 | findlay | maquis: almost |
| 20:41.16 | s4founder | also: un-ground meat is sterile on the inside, so serving it in forms other than well-freakin-done is not much of a health hazard. In ground meat, the exposed (possibly germified) surface meat is well mixed with the formerly sterile interior meat. Yes, hamburger should be well-cooked |
| 20:41.47 | maquis | yup |
| 20:42.02 | findlay | well, here I was thinking you would be proud of me and all you can do is criticize :-( |
| 20:42.20 | maquis | give me my prime rib at medium / medium rare, but i want my burger burned |
| 20:42.28 | findlay | although your sterile theory is only correct until a point |
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| 20:42.44 | maquis | ~lart TimRiker |
| 20:42.44 | ibot | wallops TimRiker with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 20:44.42 | findlay | I have this pin bracket that plugs into the back of a hard drive and into the laptop MB with a broken pin. Is it possible for me to get a new one? |
| 20:45.12 | Tene | Make one yourself. |
| 20:45.35 | findlay | Tene: how much will it cost me if you make one? |
| 20:46.44 | sjansen | findlay: Twice the price of the original part. |
| 20:47.00 | findlay | ok, I'll take three |
| 20:48.52 | findlay | so I guess nobody knows what I'm talking about |
| 20:49.03 | findlay | well, that pretty much makes this laptop useless |
| 20:49.26 | Tene | findlay: isn't DIY what open-source is about? |
| 20:49.46 | findlay | Tene: there's no way I can solder this thing |
| 20:57.04 | tensai | sjansen: if you grind your own meat, then medium hamburgers can be fine. |
| 20:59.52 | Jayce^ | sjansen, hamburgers can be awesome, just pick what meat you put in them.. |
| 21:00.01 | Jayce^ | and yes, medium at most :) |
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| 21:29.20 | mrpull | goozbach: still listening to phil hendrie? |
| 21:32.34 | findlay | a new hard drive adapter will cost me $25 |
| 21:35.28 | sjansen | findlay: Tell me the supplier and I'll see you one for $50 instead. |
| 21:35.35 | sjansen | s/see/sell/ |
| 21:35.53 | findlay | sjansen: ebay |
| 21:36.04 | findlay | but I doubt you could find 3 |
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| 21:54.26 | findlay | this hard drive connector actually cost more than the 40G hard drive I bought to plug into it |
| 21:55.17 | findlay | well, it was about the same |
| 22:06.53 | rsimpkins | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070705/ap_on_re_us/heat_wave -- Has a bit in there about St. George |
| 22:07.40 | rsimpkins | The message - don't lock your kids in a hot car. |
| 22:07.57 | findlay | what if you don't have kids? |
| 22:08.12 | rsimpkins | Then don't lock yourself in a hot car. |
| 22:08.54 | rsimpkins | This kind of article just proves I'm right. Globam-warming is a myth created by people trying to sell air-conditioners. |
| 22:09.43 | findlay | use of which will require more energy, which will increase overall waste heat produced, it's a brilliant business plan! |
| 22:09.49 | rsimpkins | I'm sure they are controlling the thermometer companies now... and chaning the tempurature read outs to be hotter than they really are. ;) |
| 22:10.55 | rsimpkins | When they say 123 F in Bakers, NV- that really means like 72 F. They are messing with our thermometers man! |
| 22:11.59 | mheath | ok, WoW is down |
| 22:12.04 | mheath | gives me a chance to setup my mail server |
| 22:12.28 | mheath | so |
| 22:12.52 | mheath | are there any open source options for syncing mail + calendar + etc. across several computers? |
| 22:13.01 | mheath | Looking for something simple and for home use |
| 22:14.38 | mrpull | mheath: have you looked at zimbra |
| 22:14.42 | mrpull | is isn't exactly simple |
| 22:14.49 | mrpull | but has lots of features |
| 22:14.58 | findlay | or TCP/IP? |
| 22:17.46 | mheath | mrpull: looks interesting, but I'm really looking for something desktop based, not web-based |
| 22:17.55 | mrpull | it has a desktop client |
| 22:17.59 | mrpull | and you can use outlook |
| 22:18.02 | mheath | I wish there was something like this that could integrate with Thunderbird =\ |
| 22:18.18 | mrpull | does thunderbird have a calendar? |
| 22:18.39 | mheath | mrpull: sunbird integrates with it. |
| 22:18.51 | mheath | "Lightning" it's called |
| 22:18.57 | mrpull | outlook 2k7 is about as good as it gets |
| 22:19.09 | mheath | =\ |
| 22:19.37 | mheath | Not sure if you're joking or not :P |
| 22:19.45 | mrpull | i'm dead serious |
| 22:20.03 | mrpull | outlook+exchange+wm6 is awesome |
| 22:20.17 | Tene | What is "wm6"? |
| 22:20.21 | mrpull | show me anything that is better integrated at any price |
| 22:20.27 | mrpull | windows mobile 6 |
| 22:20.37 | mrpull | (the smartphone/pda side) |
| 22:20.47 | mheath | I can't run exchange, though :P |
| 22:20.51 | mheath | Don't have a Windows server. |
| 22:21.12 | mrpull | yeah. it doesn't make sense for one person. |
| 22:21.28 | mrpull | but you can pay a service provider for a mailbox on a hosted server |
| 22:21.33 | mrpull | 5-10 bucks a month |
| 22:21.47 | mrpull | (probably cheaper than the electricity and lease payment on a server) |
| 22:22.01 | mrpull | and those accounts usually provide a copy of outlook |
| 22:22.43 | findlay | ~wm6 Tene |
| 22:22.48 | findlay | ~wm6 Tene's trio |
| 22:22.54 | findlay | :) |
| 22:24.36 | mheath | well, the e-mail thing is solved... |
| 22:24.55 | mheath | Apparently theres lots of web-based formats that Lightning/Sunbird works with |
| 22:25.44 | mrpull | yeah... you could do IMAP + CalDAV with very little effort |
| 22:27.25 | mrpull | http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/MailExchange |
| 22:27.44 | findlay | I'm in the mood for Schubert string quartet music |
| 22:27.47 | mrpull | seriously... at 7 bucks a month this looks very attractive |
| 22:28.09 | Tene | Except I've never seen any decent service at all from 1&1 |
| 22:28.19 | Tene | I wouldn't trust them to feed my cat, much less manage my email. |
| 22:28.22 | sjansen | If you're smart enough to avoid^?^?^? If you don't need Windows Mobile support, instead of going with hosted Exchange why not use Google Calendar? |
| 22:28.47 | mrpull | google apps are nice |
| 22:29.17 | findlay | Exchange(R) the old Evil Empire(R) for the New(TM) :) |
| 22:29.28 | sjansen | Pretty much. |
| 22:29.51 | sjansen | Frankly, I trust Google to not eat my data more than I trust Exchange. |
| 22:30.24 | Tene | My "integration" is just sendmail+mutt+ssh |
| 22:30.41 | findlay | that's why you should do all your number processing in raw BLAS |
| 22:30.41 | Tene | I can access it from anywhere! I can be certain that my mail is properly backed up! |
| 22:32.37 | mrpull | Tene: but that doesn't address calendar/contacts/tasks/etc |
| 22:32.55 | Tene | mrpull: I seem to be doing fine with it so far. |
| 22:33.41 | findlay | mrpull: Tene has a simple life :-) |
| 22:35.31 | mrpull | one of the things that amuses me is that the outspoken people about mac/linux are people that don't have to (or never have) managed thousands of users |
| 22:35.50 | mrpull | mail.app + ical can do anything that outlook/exchange can! |
| 22:36.02 | mrpull | it works for my one-person-business perfectly |
| 22:36.23 | mrpull | "i've used mutt for my one person consulting firm for years" |
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| 22:43.18 | sjansen | I've heard enough Exchange horror stories to know I never want to touch it. |
| 22:44.07 | sjansen | Maybe newer versions are better, but I've heard many stories of Exchange eating data, defying backups and making tricked out quad processors feel like 386s. |
| 22:44.38 | Jayce^ | sjansen, nope, current versions do the same |
| 22:45.09 | Tene | So, which is more important to you, being able to know that your data isn't going to randomly disappear, or "integration"? |
| 22:45.15 | Tene | I know which one I value more. |
| 22:45.22 | Tene | Maybe you have different priorities. |
| 22:46.04 | findlay | I know I value my priorities over Tene's |
| 22:46.21 | findlay | because if not, Tene would be my master |
| 22:46.37 | bonez44 | anyone know, regarding CUPS, how to change print driver? I seem to be printing at low resolution.... |
| 23:00.34 | mheath | So, anyone know much about GPG/PGP? |
| 23:00.52 | bonez44 | mheath, what you want to know? i use it occasionally when sending email |
| 23:01.02 | bonez44 | mheath, are you wanting to set it up for your system? |
| 23:01.21 | mheath | Heh, had it setup before |
| 23:01.24 | mheath | My question is this: |
| 23:01.35 | mheath | I used it years ago for my address, Mike.Thomas.Heath@gmail.com |
| 23:01.47 | mheath | I've since lost all the info I had on my keypairs |
| 23:02.04 | mheath | But I had the key info uploaded to a public keyring server |
| 23:02.24 | mheath | Will I run into problems trying to create a new keypair and uploading it to a server? |
| 23:03.02 | bonez44 | I doubt it..I'd just create a new set, upload..and i think the system will take care of it.... |
| 23:03.08 | Sargun | Where did you lose them? |
| 23:03.10 | bonez44 | but I may be wrong... |
| 23:03.15 | Sargun | "The system" |
| 23:03.24 | Sargun | Have trust in "The System" |
| 23:03.25 | mheath | Sargun: Just stopped using it. Reinstalled the OS, etc. |
| 23:03.27 | mheath | Lost the private keys |
| 23:04.18 | Sargun | oh. |
| 23:05.24 | mheath | Sorry. No high-speed chase, interesting espionage story on how my identity was stolen., |
| 23:12.50 | mheath | Time to finally get rid of my old laptop |
| 23:13.03 | mheath | Hard drives dead, case is messed up so the CD-ROM drive is a pain to open |
| 23:13.49 | Tene | Let me just say... if your database is so extremely critical to your business, why didn't you have backups?!?! |
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| 23:15.30 | QBFreak | Tene! |
| 23:16.59 | mheath | Tene: haha. |
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| 23:18.21 | findlay | I'm sure I have a backup ... somewhere |
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| 23:52.36 | QBFreak | I have a debian box and I want to change the static ip address |
| 23:52.53 | QBFreak | I found /etc/network/interfaces, but there is a warning about debconf, what is the best way to do this? |
| 23:58.13 | mheath | ~lart U3 "Smart" drives |
| 23:58.13 | ibot | whacks U3 "Smart" drives with the cluebat |
| 23:59.07 | QBFreak | mheath: SanDisk has a tool to remove the stupid U3 crap |
| 23:59.35 | QBFreak | I am assuming you're refering to U3 in regards to a SanDisk Cruzer etc |
| 23:59.50 | QBFreak | heads up, the tool will wipe the drive |