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| 00:00.36 | Lakshmi_ | hi |
| 00:01.06 | findlay | hello |
| 00:03.28 | Lakshmi_ | sup? |
| 00:04.03 | findlay | backlog |
| 00:05.00 | Lakshmi_ | huh? |
| 00:05.52 | findlay | generally stuff that happened before goes up into the scrollback buffer |
| 00:15.15 | vontrapp | i need to keep list indices consistent as the contents and order of the list change |
| 00:15.18 | vontrapp | any ideas? |
| 00:15.57 | findlay | what list? |
| 00:16.26 | vontrapp | playlist |
| 00:16.36 | vontrapp | ruby Array |
| 00:18.51 | vontrapp | hmmm |
| 00:19.44 | vontrapp | maybe the playlist consists of a list of hash keys, and a hash |
| 00:20.00 | vontrapp | the hash key list gives the order to the playlist |
| 00:20.20 | vontrapp | but the keys consistently point to the same song always |
| 00:20.27 | vontrapp | yeah, i think that works |
| 00:21.05 | vontrapp | when a song is deleted, it's deleted from the hash, and the key is removed from the list |
| 00:21.08 | vontrapp | sweet |
| 00:27.14 | Tene | vontrapp: does ruby have references? |
| 00:28.05 | vontrapp | not exactly |
| 00:28.08 | vontrapp | i don't think |
| 00:28.10 | vontrapp | why? |
| 00:28.14 | vontrapp | what's youru idea? |
| 00:28.31 | Tene | m'eh |
| 00:28.40 | vontrapp | do tell |
| 00:28.48 | vontrapp | ~storytime |
| 00:28.52 | Tene | I was thinking about "What if you want to play, say, a URL? Something not in the library?" |
| 00:29.15 | vontrapp | i should like it to accomodate you |
| 00:29.28 | vontrapp | whoever you may be |
| 00:29.57 | Tene | The playlist could be references to library elements, or strings containing a URI |
| 00:30.25 | Tene | Although I don't know the environment this is for, etc. |
| 00:31.19 | vontrapp | i thought about doing something like that, where your 'current song' is simply a reference to that very song, rather than some index |
| 00:31.25 | Tene | nodnod |
| 00:31.59 | vontrapp | but then you have to reverse index it, all the time, to show where the current song is in the list, to get the next song, etc |
| 00:32.11 | Tene | Eh? |
| 00:32.19 | vontrapp | and if you have the same element twice in the list that could cause problems |
| 00:32.34 | Tene | Have a separate media library hash and playlist array |
| 00:32.49 | vontrapp | so like i was saying? |
| 00:33.07 | Tene | *nodnod* |
| 00:33.18 | Tene | I was just suggesting sotring an actual reference instead of just a string. |
| 00:33.59 | vontrapp | but current song i think will just be a hash key, not a ref |
| 00:35.04 | vontrapp | well my keys will be ints |
| 00:35.12 | Tene | ahh |
| 00:35.35 | Tene | Yeah, I doubt there will ever be a time when you want to use '3' as a url in your media player. ;) |
| 00:36.02 | vontrapp | not that the ints will have any intrinsic relevence |
| 00:36.13 | vontrapp | just a lowly key into a hash |
| 00:36.38 | vontrapp | and the end user will never see nor create those keys directly |
| 00:39.32 | vontrapp | this player is going to be completely modular |
| 00:39.51 | vontrapp | most notably i think is the DJ module |
| 00:41.03 | vontrapp | you can subclass the DJ and define song advance to do _anything_ you like, your song selector can follow your wildest dreams |
| 00:41.30 | vontrapp | it could pick songgs based on current #utah discussion |
| 00:41.41 | vontrapp | :) |
| 00:42.09 | vontrapp | but most important to me, my DJ will use IMMS |
| 00:42.22 | vontrapp | IMMS is the rox |
| 00:42.27 | vontrapp | ~imms |
| 00:42.28 | ibot | i guess imms is an adaptive playlist framework that tracks your listening patterns and dynamically adapts to your taste. |
| 00:43.54 | findlay | heh, taste |
| 00:44.01 | findlay | I know right where my taste is |
| 00:44.03 | vontrapp | ~imms is also teh bestest |
| 00:44.04 | ibot | okay, vontrapp |
| 00:44.06 | findlay | in my mouth |
| 00:44.22 | vontrapp | ~taste findlay's mouth |
| 00:45.13 | vontrapp | findlay wants to listen to quiznos |
| 00:46.14 | findlay | the danger with using a predictive chooser is you may limit yourself and not discover that you like new kinds of music |
| 00:46.28 | vontrapp | imms is aware of thats |
| 00:46.38 | findlay | interesting |
| 00:47.10 | vontrapp | it allows lowlife songs a chance to percolate |
| 00:53.46 | vontrapp | if only there was a way for imms to determine your level of enjoyment |
| 00:54.01 | vontrapp | it attempts to through x usage stats |
| 00:54.40 | vontrapp | i guess if you use x a lot during a song, then you like the song, or at least it makes you productive |
| 00:54.47 | vontrapp | or chatty |
| 00:54.55 | vontrapp | it does something to you |
| 00:55.21 | vontrapp | so i gguess don't bong on the keyboard in anger if a song irritates you |
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| 01:21.57 | brac | x-plane linux: http://www.x-plane.com/ |
| 01:23.55 | linuxalien | Wow, X-Plane looks cool |
| 01:25.17 | elg | moderately |
| 01:25.17 | elg | http://hans.fugal.net/blog/articles/2007/06/02/joystick-hat-in-x-plane-in-linux |
| 01:25.23 | elg | that's why they put that onjoin |
| 01:26.08 | linuxalien | sweet |
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| 02:50.10 | brac | x-plane linux: http://www.x-plane.com/ |
| 02:51.26 | Tene | -google x-plane linux joystick |
| 02:51.28 | brac | x-plane linux joystick: http://hans.fugal.net/blog/articles/2007/06/02/joystick-hat-in-x-plane-in-linux |
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| 03:06.51 | mheath | Bah. I hate copyright issues. |
| 03:07.05 | mheath | Just installed Ubuntu on my laptop for the first time in a good year |
| 03:07.26 | mheath | Setting up the wireless drivers for it used to require ONE command, and everything worked perfectly |
| 03:07.42 | mheath | Used an entirely native driver, and firmware that was auto-updated from the Ubuntu repositories |
| 03:08.02 | mheath | But now the documentation for ubuntu suggests ndiswrapper |
| 03:08.08 | mheath | and the install takes about 10 steps. |
| 03:08.09 | nick125_lappy | Now you'd have better luck getting fido to jump through a flaming ring of fire? |
| 03:08.36 | mheath | and the steps in the Ubuntu documentation probably wouldn't work with my wireless card |
| 03:08.45 | mheath | They have you download some generic driver off of HP's ftp site.. |
| 03:08.59 | mheath | Which works fine for most bcm43xx cards, but mines rather particular =\ |
| 03:09.25 | Tene | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/bcm43xx |
| 03:10.32 | mheath | Tene: no, I got it working. Thanks though |
| 03:10.36 | Tene | kk |
| 03:10.39 | mheath | See the firmware cutter bit |
| 03:10.45 | Tene | ndiswrapper-- |
| 03:10.46 | mheath | and having to use proprietary firmware now |
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| 03:10.57 | mheath | there used to be a great entirely opensource firmware driver for this chipset |
| 03:11.14 | mheath | As far as I can tell, though, it got shutdown for copyright issues or something, because I can't find a hint of it |
| 03:13.32 | vontrapp | stupid copyright |
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| 03:15.11 | vontrapp | mheath: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ |
| 03:15.12 | brac | [Home - Broadcom 43xx] |
| 03:15.22 | vontrapp | still there, apparently |
| 03:15.59 | mheath | Hmm. Wonder why they removed that from the Ubuntu documentation.. |
| 03:16.15 | mheath | Bah, they've been making lots of nasty changes to the Ubuntu documentation stuff lately, trying to make it more user friendly |
| 03:16.49 | mheath | Like, it used to have excellent instructions on how to get XGL + Beryl up and running on my system....the docs now have been simplified so much that following them doesn't work, and theres no extra bits of advice.. |
| 03:17.37 | sontek | mheath: everything is in the repositories now so there is no need for complicated instructions |
| 03:18.16 | mheath | sontek: uh, I hope you're being sarcastic. |
| 03:18.49 | sontek | mheath: If you can't figure out aptitude install beryl, documentation isn't going to help =) |
| 03:19.06 | mheath | Uh, guess what |
| 03:19.16 | mheath | By your explanation, you don't even have to do that |
| 03:19.22 | mheath | Beryl apparently comes preinstalled with Feisty |
| 03:19.26 | vontrapp | yay! my card works |
| 03:19.37 | mheath | System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects |
| 03:19.42 | vontrapp | all i had to do was install bcm43xx-fwcutter |
| 03:19.48 | vontrapp | then reload the module |
| 03:19.58 | vontrapp | mheath: you should try that |
| 03:20.02 | mheath | But guess what? The magic all-inclusive repositories apparently failed |
| 03:20.16 | mheath | Because when you click to turn on desktop effects, my screen goes white. |
| 03:20.22 | sontek | mheath: the desktop effects is compiz by default, but beryl is in the repo if you want it |
| 03:20.34 | sontek | mheath: that sounds like you don't have your video drivers configured properly |
| 03:20.34 | mheath | Well, compiz, or whatever |
| 03:20.49 | sontek | mheath: that has nothing to do with beryl/compiz |
| 03:21.13 | mheath | sontek: you're argument makes so sense |
| 03:21.32 | mheath | All I'm saying is that "Following the Ubuntu docs used to get that stuff working perfectly....now they've changed it, and that doesn't work anymore" |
| 03:21.37 | mheath | And you're saying this is _my_ faut? |
| 03:22.09 | sontek | mheath: It sounds like a problem between the chair and keyboard, but I won't make assumptions, maybe the documentation has gotten worse |
| 03:22.11 | vontrapp | faux pax |
| 03:23.25 | mheath | sontek: .....I'm not a clueless user. Thanks. |
| 03:23.31 | mheath | I'm sure I could get it working if I spent the time |
| 03:23.39 | mheath | But I install Ubuntu vs other distros simply because its simple |
| 03:23.41 | mheath | and it works |
| 03:23.44 | mheath | with very little effort |
| 03:23.52 | mheath | I get a great desktop system with very little effort |
| 03:24.01 | mheath | I was not saying "beryl is broken in Ubuntu" |
| 03:24.04 | mheath | or that it doesn't work |
| 03:24.10 | mheath | Or that I've tried everything and it doesn't work |
| 03:24.29 | mheath | I was commenting that, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, and from its ability to help me, the quality of the Ubuntu documentation has deteriorated. |
| 03:24.35 | mheath | Thanks for the insult, though. |
| 03:25.33 | mheath | I don't care about beryl |
| 03:26.17 | mheath | I just thought "hey, I can make this look a little better...I don't remember how, but I don't even have to go look it up or anything because those Ubuntu docs were so great."....Thought wrong. |
| 03:26.17 | sontek | mheath: So take whats wrong/bad about it, fix it, and submit your changes to the documentation project |
| 03:27.03 | mheath | I hate that open source approach to criticism. |
| 03:27.18 | mheath | "You can't say it's bad, because thats just a sign you were too lazy to improve it!" |
| 03:27.32 | mheath | Thats like me saying that global warming is bad |
| 03:27.44 | mheath | Because, you know, if I really wanted to I could dedicate my life to politics |
| 03:27.48 | mheath | And climb the ladder |
| 03:27.58 | mheath | And eventually instute changes in pollution standards and laws |
| 03:27.59 | mheath | But I don't |
| 03:28.14 | vontrapp | no, "global warming is bad" is just a falsehood |
| 03:28.24 | mheath | THEREFORE, I'm so horribly lazy! I can't say _anything_ about it being bad, because I'm not instigating change MYSELF! |
| 03:28.34 | mheath | vontrapp: bah, quiet you. ;P |
| 03:28.38 | sontek | mheath: No, my approach was to say the issue was with you, not the docs, but then you said you could man up and fix it if you wanted to, and in response to that, I say good, just make sure you update the docs when you do ;) |
| 03:29.07 | sontek | There is no such thing as global warming |
| 03:29.34 | mheath | again, you chase around the issue. I did not say "The docs could be improved [I just don't feel like improving them". My point was that the documentation has deteriorated. |
| 03:29.38 | sontek | global warming is FUD spread by n00bies who want to sell books and get government funding for useless research projects |
| 03:30.03 | sontek | mheath: send a bug report saying that the docs have some regression issues |
| 03:30.11 | sontek | maybe they'll revert to an earlier revision |
| 03:30.21 | mheath | Oh, thats great |
| 03:30.25 | sontek | or you can use that web time machine cache and see if its there |
| 03:30.29 | mheath | Submit a bug report to Ubuntu! |
| 03:30.56 | mheath | So they can treat it like my detailed and thorough bug report about some issues with their build of the synaptic touchpad drivers |
| 03:31.14 | mheath | Which sat unattended at the lowest priority level until a year later. :) |
| 03:32.06 | vontrapp | my synaptic works dandy now, thx mheath |
| 03:32.16 | mheath | heh. |
| 03:32.31 | mheath | sontek: re the global warming stuff.... |
| 03:32.35 | mheath | Point taken |
| 03:32.41 | vontrapp | FUD |
| 03:32.49 | mheath | But thats like saying "Gun violence is not an issue because Michael Moore made a bad documentary about it." |
| 03:33.11 | sontek | Gun violence isn't an issue, poor parenting is |
| 03:33.13 | vontrapp | but gun violence actually is an issue |
| 03:33.33 | vontrapp | maybe an issue dependent on some other issue |
| 03:33.39 | vontrapp | but it IS an issue |
| 03:33.45 | vontrapp | not global warming |
| 03:34.57 | mheath | I really love that take on it though... |
| 03:35.17 | mheath | "Major report ____ is wrong because of ________, therefore IT ALL HAS TO BE LIES!" |
| 03:35.53 | vontrapp | didn't say it has to be lies, just that it is lies |
| 03:36.50 | mheath | I love those kinds of inductive arguments, though... |
| 03:36.58 | mheath | Man |
| 03:37.23 | vontrapp | actually sontek didn't induce anything about global warming |
| 03:37.29 | vontrapp | he just stated what it is |
| 03:37.31 | vontrapp | FUD |
| 03:38.51 | findlay | http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 03:38.57 | findlay | coooool! |
| 03:39.42 | fozzmoo | Just when you thought it couldn't get anybetter. :) |
| 03:39.43 | vontrapp | findlay: don't change the subject |
| 03:39.55 | fozzmoo | (except, it's PHP) |
| 03:40.08 | fozzmoo | (Dang mediawiki) |
| 03:40.19 | findlay | vontrapp: but it has every strongbad variation known to man documented on there! |
| 03:40.40 | mheath | ....Thats....sad. |
| 03:41.07 | findlay | inter-episode correlation, in-depth character analysis, archival images and draft sketches. What more could you want?! |
| 03:42.28 | mheath | meh people keep suggesting I go work at dell tech support. Had two people suggest that now. |
| 03:42.31 | mheath | Telepreformance... |
| 03:48.55 | findlay | you've all been taken in by the global-warming-is-subtly-and-implicitly-a-politically-polarizing-and-meaningless-pasttime |
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| 04:30.34 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 04:31.45 | levi_home | What are the haps? |
| 04:35.21 | mheath | not much |
| 04:35.25 | mheath | whats new with you levi_home/ |
| 04:36.19 | Tene | levi_home: http://allalone.org/stwur4-clipped.ogg of course |
| 04:44.16 | Supaplex | in bash, how do I catch the error code a forked pid exited with? |
| 05:16.56 | vontrapp | you reap it |
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| 05:37.50 | levi_home | mheath: My condo is finally up on the market. Hopefully we'll have pictures up in the MLS sometime tomorrow. |
| 05:49.17 | mheath | How much? |
| 05:53.51 | levi_home | $159,900 |
| 05:54.22 | levi_home | We'll see soon how realistic that is. |
| 05:54.40 | tensai | why ya selling it? |
| 05:55.17 | levi_home | We want a bigger place, a garage, and at least a small yard. |
| 05:55.34 | tensai | you have a new place picked out? |
| 05:55.38 | levi_home | Not yet. |
| 05:55.57 | levi_home | We've been looking, but the places come and go and we didn't have our place ready to sell yet. |
| 05:56.31 | levi_home | All the really good deals go quickly, so there's no point in looking hard without being ready to make an offer. |
| 06:04.25 | levi_home | Yay, no more color-changing nag ad in the adobe reader plugin. |
| 06:05.19 | tensai | I can't stand having a pdf reader plugin |
| 06:05.49 | Supaplex | yay weekend. |
| 06:06.01 | levi_home | tensai: Why's that? |
| 06:07.08 | tensai | levi_home: I don't know exactly. Probably same reason I use the Flashblock extension. I like to keep my browser simple and lean. |
| 06:10.59 | findlay | levi_home: we're arguing about global warming and strongbad |
| 06:12.48 | findlay | tensai: adblockplus will block flash and java applets |
| 06:13.24 | levi_home | findlay: That's nice. |
| 06:15.25 | Supaplex | synergy question. what's it take to make the command/window/(super?) key work between stations? Is it suppose to work? |
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| 06:27.37 | brac | stuff is way overrated |
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| 10:30.19 | Tene | http://memepunks.blogspot.com/2006/06/americas-war-on-science.html |
| 10:33.55 | Supaplex | please tell me that's not inteligent design |
| 10:37.09 | Tene | it's not intelligent design |
| 10:39.49 | Supaplex | my goodness. |
| 10:40.53 | Supaplex | progress:congress. how fitting. |
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| 13:56.41 | graphyx | Well we are here in utah. I had to give the laptop back akd my wife didn't tell me that we didn't have the desktop packed until we got here. |
| 13:56.48 | graphyx | And tit wont arrive for a while. |
| 13:57.17 | graphyx | So... anyone happen to have a loaner computer that I could borrow uitl I can convince her to let me buy a lptop? |
| 13:57.30 | graphyx | I plan on being at the activity tonight. |
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| 14:20.34 | brac | x-plane linux: http://www.x-plane.com/ |
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| 16:54.25 | elg | sweet, cartalk has a podcast now |
| 16:58.19 | graphyx | cool |
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| 17:01.10 | Migs | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/study_alzheimer_s_patients_say |
| 17:10.19 | tensai | findlay: yes, but adblock completely blocks them. flashblock will show a little Play button so I can play them if I want. |
| 17:10.33 | tensai | I do use adblock as well. adblock+, that is. |
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| 18:41.08 | mheath | I wish web developers made full use of HTML in a standard compliant manner |
| 18:41.16 | mheath | Even the so-called-standard-compliant abuse it. |
| 18:43.02 | mheath | If people made their HTML purely information driven rather than designing pages with the graphical rendering in mind, you could do a lot of cool things with HTML |
| 18:43.35 | mheath | Make information driven and locally themeable web browsers, rather than web browsers whos purpose is to render what is essentially a graphical image. |
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| 19:22.26 | findlay | my favorite ff extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3694 |
| 19:32.03 | mheath | Hmmm. I'm debating installing Linux on this computer. =\ |
| 19:34.57 | Sargun | mheath, do it. |
| 19:36.53 | mheath | Well, this hardware compatability is an issue |
| 19:37.01 | mheath | My only scanner / my main printer is incompatible |
| 19:37.10 | mheath | And this is my main desktop / gaming machine |
| 19:37.20 | mheath | My games are supported by Cedega, but I'm concerned about preformance |
| 19:40.20 | mheath | As for the printer...I'm starting college soon and am going to need a printer and scanner... |
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| 20:07.57 | elg | why scanner? |
| 20:08.22 | mheath | *shrug* |
| 20:08.32 | mheath | Just be useful |
| 20:08.54 | findlay | ~scan mheath |
| 20:09.28 | mheath | Might set Linux up as duel boot, just to see... |
| 20:09.59 | elg | what printer is it? |
| 20:10.19 | mheath | The printer/scanner/copier/fax is a Lexmark X7350 |
| 20:10.25 | findlay | ~duel linux windows |
| 20:10.26 | ibot | EXTRA EXTRA!! findlay challenges linux to a duel for windows!! Everyone gather round to see who wins! |
| 20:10.41 | mheath | None of it works in Linux, apparently |
| 20:10.57 | mheath | I also have a nice HP Photosmart 8450 which works perfectly in Linux |
| 20:11.01 | findlay | hp's have excellent Linux support |
| 20:11.11 | mheath | Hey, would anyone be intersted in buying a nice all-in-one Windows printer? =\ |
| 20:11.14 | findlay | with the hpijs |
| 20:11.51 | nick125_lappy | mheath: eBay might. |
| 20:13.49 | mheath | nick125_lappy: Yeah. One of my exact models is seeling for 0.99 on there because the guy didn't set a reserve -.- |
| 20:13.57 | elg | looks like they are doing something though |
| 20:13.58 | elg | http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,7070,204816596_659668505_0_en,00.html |
| 20:13.58 | mheath | doesn't sound like a place I can sell it to get enough money for a new printer |
| 20:13.59 | brac | [Linux Driver Kit -- Lexmark United States] |
| 20:15.10 | elg | everyone's dream: open source framework and specs to implement linux drivers. wonder why nobody's done it |
| 20:15.14 | elg | maybe the printer itself is lame-o |
| 20:15.21 | mheath | elg: if you look into it thats not nearly as exciting as it sounds |
| 20:15.34 | mheath | That framework supports like 3 of there printeres, iirc |
| 20:15.53 | elg | heh |
| 20:16.23 | mheath | Its not clear about that on their page |
| 20:16.31 | mheath | but I remember reading something on the SANE mailing list about that |
| 20:16.46 | mheath | Commenting on how that frameowrk was basically a worthless piece of crap |
| 20:16.53 | mheath | But speaking of vendor open source drivers |
| 20:17.06 | mheath | This is the first Nvidia-chipset-based computer I've ever owned |
| 20:17.09 | mheath | and thats AWESOME! |
| 20:17.32 | mheath | Everything from the SATA to the video to the audio to the ethernet is supported in Linux by open source drivers from the DEVELOPER! :) |
| 20:18.23 | elg | the developer? |
| 20:18.49 | elg | "The Developer" sounds like some technocrat dictator from the future |
| 20:19.13 | mheath | elg: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2005-September/014823.html |
| 20:19.14 | brac | [[sane-devel] Curious about status of Lexmark X75 Linux Driver] |
| 20:19.20 | mheath | Re that lexmark toolkit |
| 20:27.56 | mheath | Hmm. On first inspection, Ubuntu seems to be 100% compatible with this computer |
| 20:27.59 | mheath | Just not that printer. |
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| 20:54.36 | brac | x-plane linux: http://www.x-plane.com/ |
| 21:01.36 | findlay | ~onjoin #utah elg -google x-plane linux joystick |
| 21:01.36 | ibot | ok, findlay |
| 21:06.19 | Sargun | ~ibot |
| 21:06.21 | ibot | from memory, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 21:07.28 | findlay | ~Sargunbot |
| 21:22.57 | rsimpkins | Everyone ready for tonight. |
| 21:23.04 | rsimpkins | My wife made a bunch of stuff up. |
| 21:23.15 | findlay | I'm ready! |
| 21:23.28 | rsimpkins | I bet most ppl come late - because it's so hot. |
| 21:23.57 | rsimpkins | I've got a box full of old ocmputer junk to give away. |
| 21:24.11 | rsimpkins | a scanner, audio cards, zip drive, etc. |
| 21:24.53 | findlay | do you have a socket A MB? |
| 21:25.09 | rsimpkins | Not available for giving away no. |
| 21:31.39 | Tene | rsimpkins: what if findlay kidnapped your daughter and demanded it as ransom for her safe return? |
| 21:31.59 | *** join/#utah Lakshmi (n=chatzill@adsl-69-109-173-6.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 21:33.00 | findlay | I don't have enough gumption to do that |
| 21:34.12 | Tene | Do you have gumbo? |
| 21:34.51 | findlay | nope |
| 21:34.58 | Tene | What about guacamole? |
| 21:35.04 | findlay | no |
| 21:35.10 | Tene | guava? |
| 21:35.15 | findlay | false |
| 21:35.49 | Tene | grapefruit? |
| 21:36.02 | findlay | undefined |
| 21:36.24 | Tene | What about goose? Do you have any goose? |
| 21:36.34 | findlay | NaN |
| 21:36.43 | Tene | Grapes? |
| 21:37.24 | findlay | none |
| 21:37.37 | Tene | garlic? |
| 21:37.46 | findlay | negative |
| 21:39.10 | Tene | grains? |
| 21:40.57 | findlay | negation |
| 21:42.29 | Tene | guano? |
| 21:43.41 | findlay | un |
| 21:43.52 | Tene | germany? |
| 21:44.26 | findlay | nein |
| 21:45.01 | Tene | gestapo? |
| 21:46.49 | findlay | das blinkenlichten |
| 21:47.08 | Tene | gorillas? |
| 21:49.04 | findlay | not |
| 22:05.24 | Tene | garbage? |
| 22:08.21 | findlay | ~ |
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| 23:07.37 | mheath | Do you have any goose? |
| 23:07.45 | mheath | That doesn't make sense. |
| 23:07.51 | mheath | Do you have any _geese_? perhaps |
| 23:08.18 | mheath | Hmm. I wonder how hard it would be to get about $100,000 in capital for starting a business. |
| 23:25.39 | emcnabb | mheath: you planning on starting a business? |
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| 23:25.52 | brac | x-plane linux joystick: http://hans.fugal.net/blog/articles/2007/06/02/joystick-hat-in-x-plane-in-linux |
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| 23:26.46 | emcnabb | cww_wfh: hey |
| 23:27.37 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 23:27.59 | emcnabb | -lart elg |