IRC log for #utah on 20070609

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04:18.52TimRiker~lart ibot
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04:22.52Supaplexhehe
04:23.18SupaplexI got this cpqarray controller working.
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06:01.27SupaplexCLEAR!
06:04.11Supaplexhummm I could version kernel32.dll and friends (or whatever it is)
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15:08.45decriptoranyone around today?
15:10.08decriptorto early for hackers to be awake
15:12.42herlodecriptor: you are just in the wrong channel, I've been hacking since 7am MDT
15:13.32decriptorI was thinking more like people have been hacker until 7 am and have since gone to bed
15:15.46herlodecriptor: I am in Orlando, so I hacked til 3, slept til 9 and am starting all over again... well, sorta
15:17.16decriptorwhat are you hacking
15:22.11harleypiglung butter?
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15:30.15vontrappi  just don't get it
15:30.40vontrappi'm trying to play an rts with my bro
15:30.42vontrappany rts
15:30.49vontrappnot a single one will work
15:31.46vontrappone computer can see the other game and attempt to join, but it just says updating and does nothing
15:32.02vontrappthe other computer never can see other game to join
15:32.09decriptorare you over a vpn
15:32.27vontrappwe were, but now he's here and the same thing is happening
15:32.38vontrapplocal network
15:32.47decriptoroh  I've noticed with some games that it required broadcast to work
15:32.50vontrapponly a switch inbetween
15:34.41vontrappthree computers involved
15:34.52vontrapparagorn, dernhelm, and mordor
15:34.55decriptorIPs are all ok
15:35.00vontrappmordor is remote
15:35.18decriptortry it without the remote one and see if that works
15:35.31decriptorit so then its your remote one messing things up
15:35.36vontrappwhen trying to play between aragorn and mordor, mordor can see games hosted on aragorn, but not vice verse
15:36.12decriptorwhat is mordor connecting through
15:36.28vontrappwhen trying between aragorn and dernhelm, (local to eachother) aragorn can see games hosted on dernhelm, but not vice verse
15:36.57decriptorI think I've seen something like this before but its been awhile
15:36.58vontrappwe only try two at a time
15:37.29vontrappmordor was through openvpn and then hamachi
15:37.35vontrappneither worked
15:37.39elgno firewalls?
15:37.53decriptorI've had success through hamachi when it comes to games
15:38.10vontrappwindows popped up that little box that says "this is blocked, allow or continue blocking"
15:38.12decriptorwith openvpn  I'd assume that there is a firewall
15:38.13vontrappi said allow
15:38.31decriptorare you running vista
15:38.33elgwindows firewall is prime suspect
15:38.39decriptorI second that
15:38.41elgturn it OFF
15:38.53decriptorin fact I wouldn't be suprised if that was it
15:39.01elgyou only get the ALLOW question on outgoing traffic
15:39.14decriptorI've seen rdp not work from one machine to the other even with allow on the same network
15:39.28decriptorM$ firewall is jacked
15:39.33elgand by windows firewall I mean any personal firewall running on windows, be it Windows Firewall, norton antisanity, etc.
15:40.31vontrappwell i didn't install any firewalls
15:40.41vontrapponly what's there and enabled by default
15:40.44elgthen it's probably windows fierwall
15:40.48vontrappwindows XP Home
15:40.48decriptoryup
15:40.50elgwhatever it is, turn it off
15:40.55vontrappsi
15:40.58vontrappbah
15:41.02vontrappi hate windaws
15:41.03decriptoronly thing worse than windows xp pro is home
15:41.18elgthe only thing worse than xp home is me
15:41.31vontrapphehe
15:41.35decriptorgoto your network interface and the description will tell you if the interface is firewalled
15:41.37elgas in winme
15:41.38elg;)
15:41.47vontrappok i will try it
15:41.57decriptorI think you have me beat on that one
15:42.12elgWindows ME
15:42.28decriptorgood thing you clearified :)
15:43.16decriptorwell off to install linux again on my computer
15:43.30decriptorooops  after I burn the CD
15:45.10decriptornow I'm off to install linuix
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16:08.04vontrappi think aragorn is the problem
16:09.37vontrapphe's the only constant in all this
16:09.58vontrappbut there is no firewall enabled on him nor was there ever as far as i can tell
16:10.12elgwhat is he?
16:10.18elgrouter? player?
16:10.50vontrappplayer (computer
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16:12.09vontrappdernhelm vs aragorn worked when they were local to eachother
16:12.33vontrapps/aragorn/mordoro
16:12.44vontrappbah
16:13.12elgsounds we'd just better play some wesnoth
16:13.28vontrappi can't get dvorak in win
16:13.45vontrappqwerty is killing me
16:14.38elgit's supposed to be easy in windows
16:14.42elgeverything is. you just point and click
16:14.51elgwhat could be hard about point and click?
16:15.17vontrappi switch it to dvorak and it simply remains qwert
16:17.10vontrappi disabled firewall completely on dernhelm
16:17.22vontrappstill no go
16:18.41vontrappwha?
16:18.50vontrappyay, dvorak
16:18.54vontrappfinally
16:19.30vontrappso, dernhelm/mordor in vernal OK
16:20.13vontrappdernhelm/mordor over VPN untested
16:20.27vontrapparagorn/mordor over vpn NO GO
16:20.40vontrapparagorn/dernhelm local NO GO
16:20.55vontrappit completely baffles me
16:21.28vontrappthe symptoms with aragorn/mordor are the same as with aragorn/dernhelm
16:21.33vontrappbut reversed
16:22.04vontrapparagorn/mordor aragorn can't see the other game
16:22.31vontrapparagorn/dernhelm aragorn can see the game (dernhelm can't)
16:22.49vontrappit's all just sooo odd
16:25.58vontrappwe've tried TA, TA Kingdoms, Starcraft, Earth2250
16:26.04vontrapp:(
16:37.51elgdunno about the others, but starcraft isn't ip based
16:37.57elgit's netbeui or something silly
16:41.47vontrappipx
16:42.06vontrappbut it doesn't even work local
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19:05.38bonez41are there any other doctor types who chat here? or lawyer types?
19:06.07harleypigI can pretend to be a doctor ...
19:07.34bonez41harleypig, ah...well, I want to find someone who has experience with insurance overpayment refund requests...
19:08.12bonez41harleypig, so when you pretend...is that only when encountering the cute ladies..who need help? heheh
19:08.30bonez41j/k
19:08.46harleypig:>
19:09.14bonez41I'd love to find a room where doctor and small business types congregate...
19:09.46bonez41but am starting to think they most are just absolutely unfamiliar with chatting and such online forums....
19:15.30elgtechnophobes
19:15.56harleypigmore likely too darned busy
19:16.20elgwho can blame them. they see what a bunch of little biological cells can do, they must be paranoid of the threat of AI robots ;-)
19:22.03bonez41but I hear report after report that suggest that doctors are some of the first...many early adopters..... but it doesn't bear out here...
19:23.06bonez41though I always want to be busiers..it's so that I can get more done in less time, making more $$ so I can spend time doing what I love..diving deeper into the FOSS pool
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20:34.35Tenebonez41: you could try to start such a community.
21:21.55tensai~ping elg
21:22.07ibotpong elg
21:22.07Tene~ping elg
21:22.09ibotpong elg
21:22.16Tene~ping tensai
21:22.18ibotpong tensai
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22:06.15elgpong tensai
22:06.31elg-lart Tene
22:06.35elg-lart tensai
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22:23.49beandoganyone here got myth working with a pchdtv 5500 card?
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22:46.06mheathYah :)
22:46.09mheathBack home in Utah
22:46.16mheathAfter 3 days of driving....
22:57.04mheathWow, this monitor is dieing on me
22:57.14mheathWindows XP looks pretty fucking in red monochrome.
22:57.24vontrappmheath: yay for utah
22:57.29vontrappi guess if you like it
22:57.43vontrappmheath: do you olike sharpening stuff and things?
22:57.51vontrappand mechanic type stuff?
22:58.52mheathErm, pardon mylanguage. I don't know how I managed to do that twice
22:59.01mheathMeant to type "funky" and mistyped as an obscenity.
22:59.19mheathPardon my mistype (or freudian slip, whatever have you), please, #Utah
22:59.19vontrappi was wondering
22:59.31vontrappthe sentaence didn't parse well
23:00.26mheathCoincidentally, neither did the word "sentaence".
23:00.50mheathvontrapp: What do you mean, though, do I like sharpening stuff and things?
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23:00.55mheathAnd mechanic type stuff?
23:00.59mheathWhy do you ask?
23:02.26vontrappdo you like chainsaws and yard tools, and guy toys in general
23:02.40vontrappand sharpening and working on them
23:03.47vontrappsee that's what i do, and i got another job offer
23:04.25vontrappthouyou being back in utah and probably looking for something thought you might be a good replacement
23:04.33vontrappif you're into that stuff
23:04.47vontrappthe other offere didn't pan out anyway though
23:04.54vontrappbut i was still curious
23:05.11mheathhold on a sec, phone call
23:07.24vontrappstupid windows
23:08.14mheathI was previously not too into mechanical stuff, but I'm competent with it and learn really quickly
23:08.17mheathAnd I am looking for a job
23:08.18vontrappi love how when it goes into it's power save mode or whatever it does after a period of unuse it takes network services and the like with it
23:08.40mheathBut I'm in Ogden, and also looking to not commute
23:08.53vontrappah, that is kinda more than far
23:09.07mheathEh, Ok. Scratch that idea, I guess.
23:09.28mheathThanks for the offer, though :)
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