| 00:19.35 | tensai | mmm, bratwurst. I may just have to get me a few of those. sounds tasty. |
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| 01:13.25 | mheath | Evening everyone. |
| 01:13.56 | Tene | Sure is. |
| 01:15.05 | mheath | Yep.. |
| 01:15.13 | mheath | My second to last evening in the Navy. |
| 01:15.52 | maquis | mheath: you're getting through all the red tape? |
| 01:16.25 | mheath | Finally |
| 01:16.29 | mheath | It's rediculous |
| 01:16.37 | mheath | Military medical is a joke |
| 01:16.45 | maquis | rediculous, eh? |
| 01:16.51 | mheath | They completely lost my seperation physical paperwork, so I had to redo that |
| 01:17.16 | mheath | Now I've discovered that the psychiatrist who did my official evaluation put random crap in the report that I did not say in any way. |
| 01:17.38 | mheath | (that last bit is just annoying....I'm not going to fight that, I'm getting kicked out anyway) |
| 01:18.06 | Tene | like what? |
| 01:19.26 | mheath | He stated that I was emminently suicidal, despite the fact that 99% of the appointment was me telling him I no longer had such thoughts |
| 01:19.47 | mheath | And stated that I am "unwilling to contract for safety" (state that I gurantee I won't harm myself) |
| 01:20.10 | mheath | He also wrote stuff that sayed that in addition to once being suicidal, I was/am also homicidal |
| 01:20.19 | mheath | *said |
| 01:20.50 | Tene | ouch |
| 01:21.08 | mheath | Yeah |
| 01:21.19 | mheath | Oh, another thing with medical that annoyed me today |
| 01:21.27 | mheath | I go to pick up my dental record as part of the checkout process |
| 01:21.39 | mheath | Turns out that during my bootcamp dentale exam, they found 3 cavities, and never told me |
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| 01:21.52 | mheath | Never said there was anything wrong, never informed me I needed a dental appointment.. |
| 01:22.02 | mheath | My next routine one would have been 12 months later |
| 01:22.52 | herlo | sjansen is gone! |
| 01:23.40 | mheath | I was kinda forced into signing a medical statement today that I didn't agree with and made no sense |
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| 01:23.58 | mheath | the basic intent of it was, we don't think you deserve disability pay |
| 01:24.26 | mheath | But it said something like "I understand that I have been found medically qualified for seperation, and that there is no conditions that effect my ability to serve in the military." |
| 01:24.46 | mheath | That doesn't make sense, considering I'm being seperated specifically because there ARE conditions that effect my ability to serve in the miltiary |
| 01:25.17 | Tene | what would have happened if you hadn't signed it? |
| 01:26.19 | mheath | I don't know |
| 01:26.35 | mheath | They also tried to get me to sign something that was in direct violation of my enlistment contract |
| 01:26.51 | mheath | Most people in the Nuclear field (like I was) are E-3 in rank because of the Nuke field |
| 01:27.04 | mheath | And tehres a clause in their contract that says that if they get out of the Nuke field, they get reduced to E-1 |
| 01:27.12 | mheath | However, I am E-3 for other reasons |
| 01:27.31 | mheath | They kept trying to tell me I was wrong, yadada, sign this statement saying you understand you're being reduced to E-1. |
| 01:27.56 | Tene | what are the reasons? |
| 01:29.13 | mheath | Tene: Participated in a military youth group |
| 01:29.16 | mheath | It bugs me though |
| 01:29.27 | mheath | That they'd blatantly ignore something that was legally guranteed to me in contract |
| 01:29.35 | Tene | weird |
| 01:29.37 | mheath | And tell me that THEY'RE right, and I'm obviously so wrong |
| 01:29.46 | mheath | Just because they don't care and are too lazy to look it up |
| 01:37.46 | herlo | Jayce^: ping |
| 01:41.30 | mheath | well, good night |
| 01:46.31 | Tene | seeya, mheath. |
| 02:12.32 | findlay | putty is one great app |
| 02:12.39 | findlay | putty++ |
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| 02:37.35 | Tene | it renders mutt poorlymm though |
| 02:37.47 | Tene | s/mm/,/ |
| 03:29.35 | vontrapp | ibot: quit flashing elg |
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| 03:57.47 | Sargun | damnit. |
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| 06:02.12 | maquis | ~language Sargun |
| 06:02.20 | ibot | ACTION grabs Sargun by the ear and washes Sargun's mouth out with soap |
| 06:06.35 | Sargun | oh, sorry. |
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| 07:30.23 | nick125_lappy | Fun. My cable box says it's not authorized for use. |
| 07:30.45 | nick125_lappy | I call in and they hang up saying call volume is too high |
| 07:30.49 | Tene | PIRATE!!! |
| 07:31.28 | nick125_lappy | Tene: I pay for my service. I actually pay a lot for my service. |
| 07:31.37 | nick125_lappy | Much more than I would with satellite.. |
| 07:43.34 | nick125_lappy | I don't get why people steal cable TV, there isn't anything worth stealing on these days. |
| 07:45.18 | Tene | So why do you pay for it? |
| 07:46.44 | nick125_lappy | The only good thing on is QVC.. |
| 07:47.45 | nick125_lappy | Mainly because it's funny....and scary, when you realize they are serious. |
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| 10:23.11 | bonez41 | good morning |
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| 13:29.03 | ^Migs^ | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Hill_Valley |
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| 14:06.38 | vontrapp | ^Migs^: what would be awesome |
| 14:09.10 | goozbach | pineapple soda, THAT would be awesome |
| 14:10.56 | elg | goozbach: give incacola a try |
| 14:11.10 | elg | look for it in your spanish stores |
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| 14:14.33 | goozbach | incacola is pretty good stuff |
| 14:14.43 | goozbach | I'm a bigger fan of Seniorial myself |
| 14:17.00 | ^Migs^ | http://www.flixxy.com/helicopter-cable-inspector.htm |
| 14:17.01 | brac | [Helicopter High Voltage Cable Inspector] |
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| 14:24.53 | ^Migs^ | http://www.flixxy.com/extraordinary-people-seeing-without-eyes.htm |
| 14:24.54 | brac | [Extraordinary People - The Boy Who Sees Without Eyes] |
| 14:30.16 | harleypig | That's amazing |
| 14:31.15 | Jayce^ | http://www.hbo.com/scripts/video/vidplayer.html?movie=/av/biglove/biglove_ads_polyg+section=biglove+title=Big%20Love:%20Polygarol+num=1179171775667+tunein=Look%20for%20episodes%20of%20Big%20Love%20on%20HBO%20on%20Demand |
| 14:31.16 | brac | [HBO.com: Video Player] |
| 14:31.24 | Jayce^ | harleypig, you need some of that medicine? :) |
| 14:31.48 | herlo | Jayce^: is that Big Love? Is it starting up again soon or something? |
| 14:32.11 | Jayce^ | it's a special promo (I don't watch the show myself) but this ad is hiliarious |
| 14:32.53 | herlo | Jayce^: nice, I'll have to watch it. I liked the show last season. |
| 14:34.48 | harleypig | Jayce^: Which special medication are you talking about? I'm considering self-medication using my old friend Jack atm. At least until I can see the doc next week. |
| 14:35.13 | Jayce^ | harleypig, watch the link I just sent |
| 14:35.34 | Sargun | Hey guys, what do you think about my story: http://xbmodder.us/index.php?q=node/53 |
| 14:38.54 | harleypig | omg ... my kids are wanting to know why I'm laughing so hard ... |
| 14:39.57 | harleypig | Dude ... Sargun ... this isn't the right channel to post that kind of story. |
| 14:40.04 | harleypig | And, man, if it's *me* saying that ... |
| 14:42.08 | harleypig | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/lights/9162/?cpg=53H |
| 14:42.09 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: LED Art Fan] |
| 14:42.20 | harleypig | However, $350 is too much for this toy. |
| 14:42.55 | Sargun | harleypig, uhh, the story isn't serious though |
| 14:45.26 | Sargun | oooh, neat. |
| 14:46.16 | herlo | Sargun: interesting story. |
| 14:46.30 | Sargun | herlo, thanks. :-) |
| 14:46.32 | herlo | Sargun: it did portray seriousness in my mind |
| 14:46.46 | Sargun | No, this is me and my friends boredom. |
| 14:46.50 | Sargun | Coming up with ideas. |
| 14:46.52 | herlo | along with other sick, twisted ideas that I want nothing to do with... :) |
| 14:46.53 | harleypig | I know it's not, but while I liked it, ... |
| 14:47.13 | harleypig | Of course some people probably think that about my bringing up speedos and the like. |
| 14:50.17 | Sargun | :-) |
| 14:50.29 | Sargun | Its supposed to be a fantasy story. |
| 14:50.51 | Sargun | And how our main character handles this woman. |
| 14:51.05 | Sargun | Would you guys believe that the main character was homicidal before this? |
| 14:54.40 | emcnabb | Sargun: lame |
| 14:54.53 | emcnabb | do something better with your time |
| 14:55.13 | Sargun | emcnabb, :-( Why do you say that? |
| 14:55.18 | herlo | emcnabb: writing isn't lame |
| 14:55.51 | graphyx | I think he is more concerned about the content than the activity |
| 14:56.18 | emcnabb | I don't like stories about death (especially when they're filled with gore) |
| 14:56.38 | emcnabb | but that's just me |
| 14:58.22 | herlo | graphyx: emcnabb: fair enough. That's why I said what I said about it... |
| 14:58.40 | Sargun | emcnabb, Ah, understandable. |
| 14:59.25 | graphyx | this reminds me of something said about the political situation |
| 14:59.40 | graphyx | the front runners shouldn't ever talk about the low level guys |
| 14:59.49 | graphyx | since that only brings attention to them. |
| 15:00.38 | graphyx | likewise, moral individuals shouldn't express, entertain immoral ideas in causal communications since by doing so we give them more market time |
| 15:00.53 | graphyx | I can't really say what I want to, but does that make any sense? |
| 15:01.45 | graphyx | A glorification of death via games, movie, tv, books, poerty allows it to occupy more of our cognitive time than we should want it to. |
| 15:02.57 | emcnabb | Sargun: you're a smart kid, you just need to focus your energy on doing something useful |
| 15:05.08 | harleypig | Sargun: This is what I meant ... I didn't think the reaction would be generally favorable in #utah. |
| 15:05.55 | graphyx | is there a command to view all crobjobs as root? |
| 15:06.00 | graphyx | I mean for all users? |
| 15:06.15 | harleypig | crobjobs? |
| 15:06.20 | harleypig | :> |
| 15:07.04 | Sargun | lol |
| 15:07.20 | harleypig | You mean besides looking in the cronjob directories? |
| 15:07.25 | graphyx | yes |
| 15:07.32 | Sargun | harleypig, No, I didn't think there would be a positive response from #utah, but if there was that means that I had something. |
| 15:07.33 | graphyx | but if that works that is fine too |
| 15:09.08 | emcnabb | loop through all the users on the system and run "crontab -l -u username"? |
| 15:09.33 | emcnabb | back to work |
| 15:09.45 | harleypig | graphyx: Sorry, can't find anything in the docs. |
| 15:10.21 | harleypig | emcnabb: That'd be a little bit wasteful ... just look in the crontab directories. |
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| 15:10.46 | Supaplex | moin *yawn* |
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| 15:12.32 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.34 | Sargun | like that? |
| 15:12.41 | graphyx | sure |
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| 15:12.58 | graphyx | but that is distro specific |
| 15:13.09 | graphyx | some will have different folders for weekly daily, ect |
| 15:13.17 | graphyx | I thought that there was a built in way |
| 15:13.19 | graphyx | but that is ok. |
| 15:13.22 | graphyx | thanks. |
| 15:13.33 | harleypig | find /dir/to/cronjobs would be better. |
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| 15:22.40 | sjansen | ~crush redbeard2 |
| 15:22.53 | ibot | ACTION crushes redbeard2 with a full height scsi disk |
| 15:23.05 | redbeard2 | ~whalebomb sjansen |
| 15:23.12 | ibot | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at sjansen and hides. |
| 15:23.42 | sjansen | *tap* *tap* |
| 15:23.47 | sjansen | redbeard2: I think you dropped this. |
| 15:25.30 | vontrapp | is there a babelfish type site that can translate pdf? |
| 15:26.15 | Sargun | Try google translate |
| 15:26.34 | Sargun | http://translate.google.com/translate_t |
| 15:26.34 | Sargun | throw a PDF at it |
| 15:26.37 | Sargun | tell us what happens |
| 15:27.53 | vontrapp | no go |
| 15:28.08 | vontrapp | just gives english back again |
| 15:29.50 | herlo | ~whalepoop sjansen |
| 15:30.11 | ibot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at sjansen |
| 15:30.14 | sjansen | harumph |
| 15:30.46 | sjansen | ~whalespleen herlo |
| 15:31.42 | sjansen | ~whaletail herlo |
| 15:38.02 | harleypig | ~whalewhale sjansen |
| 15:40.28 | redbeard2 | ~whalejansen harleypig |
| 15:47.56 | vontrapp | i love how IE always freezes itself up doing the simplest things |
| 15:49.59 | Supaplex | E: Couldn't find package internet-explorer |
| 15:50.04 | Supaplex | ahhh what a shame. |
| 15:50.06 | Supaplex | ;) |
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| 16:16.59 | rsimpkins | Does anyone here use vmware with linux guests? |
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| 16:24.44 | calvarez | hello |
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| 16:29.46 | rsimpkins | calvarez: hi |
| 16:31.04 | calvarez | hello |
| 16:31.18 | calvarez | hmm, #utah seems a little dead lately |
| 16:31.32 | rsimpkins | It comes and goes |
| 16:31.37 | rsimpkins | Everyone is probably just working. |
| 16:32.18 | Hhhhh | working? I thought open source was all about volunteering! ;) |
| 16:32.24 | Hhhhh | j/k |
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| 16:42.04 | levi | rsimpkins: Yes. |
| 16:42.27 | levi | Hhhhh: I've been working on an open source project for work lately. |
| 16:42.53 | rsimpkins | levi: Have you compiled a kernel to use in the VM? I'm trying to figure out which options i need. |
| 16:43.55 | rsimpkins | Do I need CONFIG_MEGARAID_MM + CONFIG_MEGARAID_MAILBOX or CONFIG_MEGARAID_LEGACY? |
| 16:43.56 | levi | rsimpkins: I just used the standard distro kernel and installed the vmware guest tools. |
| 16:46.28 | levi | In fact, I took the hard drive from a running Linux server and installed it in my shiny new fast Windows box and told vmware to boot off the hard drive, and it worked. |
| 16:46.50 | levi | Except the system clock was all wonky until I installed the guest tools. |
| 17:03.25 | Hhhhh | open source and money don't go together |
| 17:03.32 | Hhhhh | ok, ok, I'm kidding |
| 17:03.47 | Hhhhh | just controversy every so often livens the chat |
| 17:04.05 | harleypig | So does the mental image of me in speedos ... |
| 17:04.13 | findlay | GNUCash: It's everywhere you want to be(R) |
| 17:04.30 | localstatic | calvarez: is Hhhhh your puppet user for stirring up controversy? |
| 17:04.47 | harleypig | Does anyone know debian well enough to tell me if there is a way to tell apt-get to *only* install my chosen language files? |
| 17:04.58 | harleypig | findlay: Except my credit union can't figure out how to support it. |
| 17:05.18 | sjansen | rsimpkins: VMWare with linux host and linux guests. |
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| 17:05.31 | findlay | harleypig: well gnucash is supposed to be able to import qif files |
| 17:05.42 | harleypig | The tech guys know exactly what they need to give me, but they can't get permission from the board to release it to me, despite the fact that it can be reverse engineered from MSMoney easily. |
| 17:06.20 | harleypig | findlay: Yeah, that's not a problem, and I can scrape the site easily enough. But it'd sure be nice to be able to have gc log on for me and handle transactions. |
| 17:06.40 | sjansen | harleypig: It's all about aptititude. |
| 17:06.44 | sjansen | apt-get is for chumps |
| 17:07.03 | herlo | sjansen: how many ti's are in that? |
| 17:07.17 | herlo | last I checked it was called aptitude, not aptititude :) |
| 17:07.22 | harleypig | sjansen: Ok, how do I tell aptitude ... hmmm ... I don't know if the n800 has aptitude ... though I don't see why it wouldn't ... |
| 17:07.25 | harleypig | heh |
| 17:08.15 | localstatic | harleypig: you might be interested in the 'localpurge' package, but it might not go as far as you want. |
| 17:08.31 | localstatic | s/localpurge/localepurge/ |
| 17:08.56 | harleypig | localstatic: Yeah, I use it in my gentoo setups, along with some other options. |
| 17:09.16 | harleypig | But it's not available in the repositories for the N800. |
| 17:09.45 | harleypig | And localepurge won't stop apt-get from dling and installing all the language files on update again. |
| 17:09.49 | sjansen | n800? |
| 17:10.22 | calvarez | yes |
| 17:10.33 | sjansen | aptitude makes it easier to deal with "optional" packages, but if the maintainer marked something as required, you're fighting a losing battle |
| 17:10.33 | calvarez | Hhhhh is my puppet, and I am the master |
| 17:12.06 | harleypig | I dunno ... I'm not sure how to tell if a package is required. |
| 17:13.13 | TimRiker | harleypig: try removing it. :) |
| 17:13.14 | findlay | there are no required packages in gentoo |
| 17:13.20 | findlay | gentoo++ |
| 17:13.52 | TimRiker | harleypig: the package files show requires, suggests, and recommends. |
| 17:14.42 | harleypig | findlay: That's not necessarily true. |
| 17:15.02 | findlay | harleypig: yeah, but the system profile is pretty essential |
| 17:16.10 | harleypig | :] Yeah, but I wasn't talking about that. If you want to install certain packages, they require certain other packages. |
| 17:16.17 | harleypig | Oh ... I see what you meant. |
| 17:16.44 | localstatic | It uses the word "Depends" instead of "requires" |
| 17:17.35 | goozbach | disapointingsandwich |
| 17:17.43 | TimRiker | harleypig: I've not tried pinning on maemo. it would likely work. see the apt howto. |
| 17:17.45 | localstatic | you can use 'apt-cache show packagename' to see the various depends/suggests/recommends |
| 17:17.50 | TimRiker | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin |
| 17:17.52 | brac | [APT HOWTO - Managing packages] |
| 17:18.06 | harleypig | Thanks TimRiker |
| 17:18.27 | TimRiker | iirc pinning to a release of -1 will prevent installing the package. |
| 17:19.24 | localstatic | Wouldn't that prevent packages that depend on it from being installed too? |
| 17:19.56 | harleypig | So I'd have to go through and do that for each language package? ewww |
| 17:20.08 | localstatic | If so, you get into the "losing battle" that sjansen was talking about |
| 17:22.25 | findlay | or just drop the package names into an auto-clean 'script' |
| 17:24.26 | herlo | http://www.mathiaspedersen.com/3dportfolio_poor_pluto_high.html - nice pic |
| 17:24.28 | brac | [MathiasPedersen.com | 3D Portfolio | "Poor Pluto"] |
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| 17:29.55 | goozbach | ok let's say I've got ~$3000 to spend on a laptop |
| 17:30.16 | harleypig | That's about how much mine cost. |
| 17:30.32 | harleypig | I know you can get a 19" monitor now. |
| 17:30.40 | goozbach | and I wanted to decide between a new Apple powermac |
| 17:30.49 | harleypig | Or is mine a 19" and they now have 21" ... hmmm ... can't remember. |
| 17:31.06 | goozbach | and the lenovo t61p |
| 17:31.23 | goozbach | which one should I purchace, and why? |
| 17:31.30 | harleypig | links? |
| 17:31.51 | localstatic | herlo: Nice indeed - especially the part where (I assume) Uranus is cross-eyed... |
| 17:32.10 | herlo | localstatic: ha, didn't even notice that, funny! lol |
| 17:32.24 | herlo | localstatic: here's another http://photos-608.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v54/82/40/28134838/n28134838_32609608_9465.jpg |
| 17:33.20 | goozbach | http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?family=MacBookPro --- the apple 17" macbook pro |
| 17:33.38 | goozbach | and the Lenovo model I want isn't out yet |
| 17:35.36 | harleypig | err ... isn't that kind of a no brainer then? |
| 17:36.27 | Jayce^ | goozbach, you see that new macbookpro can have the 1920x1200 :) |
| 17:36.27 | goozbach | so can the new T61p |
| 17:36.28 | herlo | harleypig: no its not, the t61p is worth the wait for several reasons |
| 17:36.37 | herlo | Jayce^: just named one |
| 17:36.51 | harleypig | herlo: How long? |
| 17:36.52 | Tene | herlo: what reasons? |
| 17:36.53 | goozbach | they both have about the same specs |
| 17:37.04 | goozbach | santa rosa chipset |
| 17:37.26 | goozbach | WUXGA displays |
| 17:37.49 | goozbach | decent frames |
| 17:37.57 | Jayce^ | how thick is the lenovo? |
| 17:37.59 | herlo | and the roll cage that the T series has that apple does not |
| 17:38.15 | herlo | Jayce^: almost as thin as the apple,about a 1/4" thicker IIRC |
| 17:38.22 | goozbach | I kinda like that the wi-fi card in the T series is an intel |
| 17:38.25 | herlo | maybe a bit more... |
| 17:38.41 | jsmith | goozbach: Which works out-of-the-box on Fedora 7, from what I hear |
| 17:38.51 | herlo | goozbach: that's actually been a drawback for me, but with the new Fedora 7 drivers (soon) that should work OOB too |
| 17:38.53 | goozbach | I haven't had much of a chance to play with OSX |
| 17:39.07 | graphyx | what company was it that came out with a laptop that it slightly thicker than the motarola razr phone? |
| 17:39.09 | herlo | goozbach: it apparently doesn't yet |
| 17:39.15 | jsmith | graphyx: Intel |
| 17:39.18 | herlo | graphyx: wow |
| 17:39.22 | graphyx | ahh that's right. |
| 17:39.29 | goozbach | herlo: I like that intel itself open-sourced the driver for the card |
| 17:39.43 | goozbach | so it's worth it to me to wait for it to work on principle |
| 17:39.59 | graphyx | oh, in case you heard that I put my phone through the wash, I also put it in a bowl of rice for 3 days and was able to get it back up and running. |
| 17:39.59 | Jayce^ | mmmm shiny mbpro.. |
| 17:40.29 | goozbach | what chipset is the wifi card on a macbook pro? |
| 17:40.33 | goozbach | does it work under linux |
| 17:40.35 | goozbach | ? |
| 17:40.43 | Jayce^ | not sure if it's different on the new one.. |
| 17:40.46 | Jayce^ | was an intel |
| 17:40.47 | Jayce^ | iirc |
| 17:40.59 | Jayce^ | frankly, haven't tried linux on it |
| 17:41.08 | herlo | goozbach: they did? cool |
| 17:41.29 | goozbach | I'd like to have a chance to play with OSX, it seems a pretty cool OS |
| 17:41.41 | goozbach | but I don't know if I can do without my eraser head |
| 17:42.06 | goozbach | I *really* like the keyboard/input devices on the thinkpads |
| 17:42.19 | herlo | I think the durability of a T series outweighs the extra price you pay for the prettiness of a macbook. When I bought my T60p, the macbook with similar features was another $800 |
| 17:42.38 | herlo | I bought mine last June |
| 17:44.49 | findlay | and now you're going to give it to me this June? |
| 17:44.49 | goozbach | I guess I'll wait until the T61p comes out and do a head-to-head |
| 17:45.16 | goozbach | maybe I'll buy both, and use one for a week, then the other for a week to decide |
| 17:45.37 | sjansen | findlay: Try removing Python then tell me again that Gentoo doesn't have required packages. |
| 17:45.53 | findlay | sjansen: that's in the system profile |
| 17:48.20 | sjansen | goozbach: Is the 1920x1200 t61p officially confirmed? |
| 17:48.20 | findlay | ~eval 1920*1200 |
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| 17:48.31 | goozbach | sjansen: I thought so |
| 17:48.31 | goozbach | dax was saying something about it the other day |
| 17:48.55 | goozbach | if only fingerworks was still around... |
| 17:49.06 | goozbach | and still developing mac-n-touch... |
| 17:51.17 | goozbach | then this would be an easy solution |
| 17:52.43 | sjansen | My understanding is that it wasn't official yet, just strong rumors. |
| 17:55.26 | levi | I lust after the new MacBook Pro, but I am hesitant to spend $3k on a laptop. |
| 17:55.56 | goozbach | in related news... anyone want to buy a T42? |
| 17:56.24 | jsmith | goozbach: How much? What condition? But you gotta understand... I'm cheap. |
| 17:58.07 | findlay | and I'm cheaper than jsmith |
| 17:58.53 | jsmith | findlay: That would be tough... how many miles are on your car? |
| 17:59.03 | goozbach | in decent condition, brand new display |
| 17:59.13 | findlay | jsmith: about 184000 |
| 17:59.30 | goozbach | ~$700 |
| 17:59.34 | jsmith | findlay: I've got almost 220,000 |
| 17:59.36 | jsmith | goozbach: I can get a new (cheap ugly awful) laptop for that |
| 17:59.38 | findlay | but I plan on driving it at least that far again |
| 18:01.17 | graphyx | whats this about cars? |
| 18:01.26 | graphyx | trading a laptop for a car? |
| 18:02.15 | goozbach | jsmith: it is an IBM T series |
| 18:02.31 | goozbach | they just don't lose their value |
| 18:02.43 | goozbach | I've also upgraded the RAM and hard drive |
| 18:02.49 | findlay | how big/heavy is it? |
| 18:03.18 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I've got a system I'm working on that kernel panics - but the relevent errors I wanna see are in the scroll back. After the panic - can't scroll back. Any ideas how i can get at it? |
| 18:03.44 | findlay | rsimpkins: serial console maybe? |
| 18:03.58 | findlay | video camera? :) |
| 18:04.04 | rsimpkins | findlay: I was hoping for a simpler way. :) |
| 18:16.55 | graphyx | findlay: I think serial cable is a great suggestion. |
| 18:17.16 | graphyx | i don't think print screen would be any use. |
| 18:17.20 | graphyx | scroll lock? |
| 18:18.05 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.16 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Netconsole |
| 18:18.38 | goozbach | or enable logging to a file, make sure it's syncronous |
| 18:18.46 | goozbach | and look at the file when you reboot from the panic |
| 18:26.44 | findlay | does anybody know how to take screenshots in windows? |
| 18:27.00 | findlay | I think it has something to do with the print screen button |
| 18:27.20 | findlay | actually I'm trying to remember how to do it for just the active window |
| 18:28.18 | Tene | modifier+printscreen |
| 18:28.24 | localstatic | ctrl-alt-printscreen |
| 18:28.25 | Tene | printscreen copies to clipboard |
| 18:28.42 | localstatic | then paste into an image editor |
| 18:29.09 | findlay | I think it's just alt+print screen |
| 18:29.30 | localstatic | You're right |
| 18:29.53 | graphyx | try ctrl-alt-3-f-del. |
| 18:29.55 | graphyx | jk |
| 18:31.12 | findlay | heh |
| 18:32.07 | ^Migs^ | try ctrl-alt-shift-q-w-e-r-t-y-u-i-o-p |
| 18:32.35 | ^Migs^ | I'd like to write an app that has the most ridiculous hotkey combinations |
| 18:33.11 | localstatic | Isn't there already one of those? |
| 18:33.23 | localstatic | the name starts with an "e" |
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| 18:33.57 | localstatic | but maybe I shouldn't start that particular discussion... |
| 18:35.12 | findlay | heh |
| 18:35.49 | Tene | I remember a story about the original mac, and they were implementing application-switching, so they chose a hotkey for it, and then MS Office was complaining about it conflicting with one of their hotkeys |
| 18:36.04 | Tene | So there were discussions, and they asked the office team to choose a different hotkey |
| 18:36.26 | Tene | and they eventually came back saying that the one they chose would be fine, as they were already using every hotkey combination possible. |
| 18:36.29 | Tene | oslt. |
| 18:37.06 | sjansen | http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/06/just-like-yoda/ |
| 18:37.08 | localstatic | Wow. Office uses "ctrl-alt-shift-q-w-e-r-t-y-u-i-o-p" |
| 18:37.13 | brac | [Terminally Incoherent » Blog Archive » Just Like Yoda] |
| 18:37.36 | sjansen | If you don't know who Knuth is, you're a heathen. |
| 18:37.42 | sjansen | If you don't know who Vixie is, you're a heathen. |
| 18:37.49 | sjansen | If you don't know who Kernighan is, you're a heathen. |
| 18:37.56 | sjansen | If you don't know who Richie is, you're a heathen. |
| 18:38.15 | sjansen | ... I shold probably stop. |
| 18:39.06 | harleypig | Lionel? |
| 18:39.17 | harleypig | Nicole? |
| 18:39.45 | harleypig | (You should have stopped sooner) |
| 18:41.23 | sjansen | heh, I had to google to figure out you mean Lionel Richie and Nicole Richie. |
| 18:41.28 | harleypig | :] |
| 18:41.31 | sjansen | Obviously I mean Dennis Richie of K&R fame. |
| 18:41.35 | sjansen | Heathen. |
| 18:42.32 | localstatic | Careful, you might force mheath to launch into his rants about C... |
| 18:42.41 | harleypig | Then of course, there is Vixie Smith (*DON'T* google that unless your in a safe place) |
| 18:42.55 | sjansen | Paul Vixie |
| 18:42.58 | findlay | or levi :) |
| 18:43.00 | sjansen | Heathen. |
| 18:43.07 | vontrapp | harleypig: still fighting locales? |
| 18:43.37 | harleypig | vontrapp: I gave up on it ... you got some pointers? |
| 18:44.00 | vontrapp | iirc you have to configure some certain package which then tells it which languages to install |
| 18:44.02 | findlay | the funny thing was the site I googled to find about windows screenshots kept saying things like "your windows keyboard" and "The sole function of this key is to take a snapshot or picture of your computer screen" |
| 18:44.12 | vontrapp | jam |
| 18:44.35 | harleypig | vontrapp: I'll see what I can dig up. |
| 18:44.38 | harleypig | Gone to lunch |
| 18:44.58 | findlay | windows fanboyism is often amazingly amusing |
| 18:46.33 | ^Migs^ | do you realize National Emo Kid Beat-down Day was exactly a year ago? |
| 18:46.49 | ^Migs^ | time flies |
| 18:47.45 | sjansen | ~beatdown ^Migs^ |
| 18:50.30 | ^Migs^ | oh crap, when's Father's Day? |
| 18:50.36 | ^Migs^ | third Sunday? |
| 18:51.25 | localstatic | Yeah |
| 18:51.26 | thaddeusq | ^Migs^: In the US, yes. |
| 18:51.39 | ^Migs^ | why does Germany celebrate it on Ascension Day? |
| 18:51.45 | localstatic | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father's_day |
| 18:51.54 | ^Migs^ | yeah, just reading that |
| 18:59.49 | localstatic | That was a quick lunch |
| 18:59.51 | sjansen | C scares me. Whenever I'm in the presence of C, I feel a need to tremble and wet myself. I blame C. It's obvious and inferior language or I wouldn't fear it. |
| 19:00.12 | sjansen | Anyone who praises C is obviously making fun of me, and therefore must be an idiot. Only an idiot would use C. |
| 19:00.24 | harleypig | localstatic: I'm at home. It was grilled cheese sammiches and tomato soup. |
| 19:00.29 | sjansen | C is hard. Hard is bad. I want easy. Easy is good. |
| 19:00.37 | harleypig | And my appetite has taken a serious hit in the last few weeks. |
| 19:00.43 | harleypig | Which is probably a good thing. |
| 19:01.03 | sjansen | C has pointers. Pointers are obviously the work of the devil. |
| 19:01.08 | ^Migs^ | you could use PHP |
| 19:01.12 | ^Migs^ | PHP doesn't have pointers. |
| 19:01.16 | harleypig | ~whaleslap ^Migs^ |
| 19:01.22 | ibot | ACTION beats ^Migs^ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 19:01.22 | sjansen | C doesn't have strings. Arrays aren't strings. C is broken. |
| 19:02.06 | sjansen | C is basically fancy assembler. Nobody programs in assembler these days because computer don't actually use assembled code anymore, they use bytecode now. |
| 19:02.40 | sjansen | I mean geez, C is so old fashioned it doesn't even have a garbage collector. |
| 19:03.20 | localstatic | I'm having a little trouble reconciling the C trash talk & the obvious reverence for Kernighan & Richie |
| 19:03.20 | sjansen | What's up with free()? If Linux can manage Java memory without leaking, why can't they fix C so that Linux can manage it too? |
| 19:03.35 | sjansen | ~dict sarcasm |
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| 19:04.00 | ^Migs^ | I'm just so glad I use Java |
| 19:04.13 | elg | i'm glad you do too |
| 19:04.46 | sjansen | ^Migs^: I am too. Can you imagine how much time you'd have to make annoying comments in #utah if you weren't busy rewrite boiler plate code? |
| 19:04.56 | localstatic | lol |
| 19:11.47 | localstatic | Does anyone have any recommendations for web hosting? |
| 19:12.51 | mheath | Uh, goozbach has a virtual dedicated server hosting service that I've really liked |
| 19:13.07 | sjansen | Find an old Apple IIc, build an Ethernet expansion card for it, run Contiki. Bask in the warm glow of geek points. |
| 19:13.09 | mheath | I payed 1 year in lump a while ago so i can't remember specifically how much it costs, but it was very reasonable |
| 19:13.19 | Jayce^ | goozbach just needs a new billing system :-p |
| 19:13.25 | redbeard2 | Jayce^: agreed |
| 19:13.36 | mheath | And I'm IRCing via SSH right now :) |
| 19:13.37 | mheath | yeah |
| 19:13.41 | mheath | I paid once in lump |
| 19:13.43 | redbeard2 | ~lart goozbach's lack of a good billing system |
| 19:13.43 | ibot | stuffs goozbach's lack of a good billing system into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 19:13.53 | mheath | But the check-in-mail-to-a-home-address wasn't very professional |
| 19:14.36 | sjansen | Jayce^: Doesn't goozbach have any friends that know about managing billing systems? |
| 19:14.51 | Jayce^ | sjansen, I wouldn't say *friend* but I'm sure he could find someone.. |
| 19:15.00 | Jayce^ | especially one for hosting applications.. |
| 19:15.33 | Jayce^ | I know redbeard2 has some little experience in one too :-p |
| 19:16.38 | goozbach | redbeard2, sjansen, Jayce^: neverblock will have a good billing system RealSoonNow(tm) |
| 19:16.53 | redbeard2 | goozbach: freeside? |
| 19:17.08 | findlay | or expensiveside? |
| 19:17.09 | redbeard2 | i know the guy that used to do a lot of the testing on that |
| 19:17.13 | sjansen | goozbach: MyPHPBillingSystemAndChineseTakeOut? |
| 19:18.08 | goozbach | it'll be freeside |
| 19:18.13 | redbeard2 | w00t! |
| 19:18.20 | Jayce^ | saweeet |
| 19:18.37 | Tene | mheath: you have strong opinions about C? |
| 19:21.29 | findlay | Tene: I have weak opinions about C |
| 19:29.12 | findlay | when you maximize eog, why does it not let you change workspaces? |
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| 19:43.58 | mheath | I haveno opinions about C. |
| 19:44.14 | mheath | Sorry, I ran out for a second to go smoke. |
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| 20:01.19 | Tene | When did you pick up smoking? I think I remember you complaining about smokers a long time ago, but I might be hallucinating. |
| 20:02.59 | graphyx | Tene: if you are hallucinating, we need to ask you what you are smoking. |
| 20:03.33 | Tene | I'm eating a nectarine... but perhaps that's just another hallucination? |
| 20:03.58 | graphyx | You would need ta talk to you doctor about that one |
| 20:03.58 | Tene | graphyx: my memory of such things is very unreliable and it's not uncommon for me to remember things that never happened at all. |
| 20:07.42 | graphyx | Tene: Well he did just get out of the armed services, |
| 20:08.01 | graphyx | If he didn't hold fast to not smoking, he probably picked it up there. |
| 20:08.42 | Tene | graphyx: it's also possible that he was a smoker before and I'm just misremembering. It's the validity of my memory that I'm most interested in here. |
| 20:09.47 | levi | sjansen: It's Dennis Ritchie, you heathen. With a 't'. :P |
| 20:11.43 | levi | sjansen: And don't forget Ken Thompson. |
| 20:14.03 | goozbach | or Sponge Bob! |
| 20:14.14 | graphyx | or the alamo! |
| 20:14.20 | graphyx | -chat about don't forget |
| 20:14.20 | brac | don't forget the word, so no worries |
| 20:14.35 | graphyx | -chat about chat |
| 20:14.35 | brac | chat went |
| 20:14.50 | QBFreak | -chat about graphyx |
| 20:14.50 | brac | graphyx had a teacher who's willing to live as you can do "driver RAID", and that's wind |
| 20:16.14 | findlay | happy power is what? |
| 20:16.20 | findlay | -chat about happy powder |
| 20:16.20 | brac | happy powder |
| 20:16.25 | findlay | dude |
| 20:16.36 | findlay | -chat about happy power |
| 20:16.37 | brac | happy power is on.) Older motherboards had a device or resource busy |
| 20:16.58 | mheath | Tene: Not that long ago |
| 20:17.10 | levi | mheath: That was dumb. |
| 20:17.19 | Tene | mheath: why? I'm rather curious. |
| 20:17.25 | mheath | I was A) very stressed out and, B) In the Navy. :P |
| 20:18.42 | findlay | -chat about why |
| 20:18.42 | brac | why is super scriptable, but does not apply in this context. |
| 20:18.47 | Tene | Smoking relieves your stress |
| 20:18.55 | Tene | ? |
| 20:18.58 | goozbach | yeah, now you get to spend a great deal of money to slowly kill yourself |
| 20:19.20 | mheath | Tene: It is relaxing, and the smoke pad is a very relaxing and nice social atmosphere here. |
| 20:19.36 | mheath | I actually picked up smoking while I was committed to that mental heatlh place. Go figure. |
| 20:24.25 | emcnabb | wow |
| 20:24.41 | findlay | -chat about wow |
| 20:24.41 | brac | wow did |
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| 20:26.27 | Keighvin | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 20:26.27 | ibot | burns Jayce^ to a crisp with a laser |
| 20:27.17 | findlay | ~whalelaser Keighvin |
| 20:31.20 | *** join/#utah beandog (n=sdibb@gentoo/developer/beandog) |
| 20:31.57 | beandog | suspend2 is freaking sweet. |
| 20:31.59 | beandog | that is all. |
| 20:32.06 | findlay | all? |
| 20:32.12 | beandog | all for today. |
| 20:33.32 | beandog | :) |
| 20:35.34 | Jayce^ | ~whaleslap Keighvin |
| 20:35.44 | ibot | ACTION beats Keighvin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:36.01 | findlay | -chat about freakishly huge |
| 20:36.02 | brac | freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:36.10 | findlay | lame |
| 20:37.10 | levi | http://www.cigital.com/papers/download/developer_gambling.php |
| 20:37.12 | brac | [How We Learned to Cheat at Online Poker: A Study in Software Security [Cigital]] |
| 20:37.23 | beandog | I get the feeling that Best Buy is evil. |
| 20:38.30 | findlay | worst buy? |
| 20:41.06 | sjansen | levi: You shame me. :-( |
| 20:42.30 | sjansen | ~apologize to Dennis RiTchie |
| 20:42.44 | ibot | ACTION jbot says he's very very sorry for everything and that sjansen made him do it and it wasn't his fault. |
| 20:42.45 | sjansen | ~apologize to Ken Thompson |
| 20:42.53 | ibot | ACTION jbot says he's very very sorry for everything and that sjansen made him do it and it wasn't his fault. |
| 20:47.55 | levi | sjansen: Next time you say bad things about C I want you to really mean them! ;) |
| 20:48.06 | spr | ~lart libdevmapper |
| 20:48.06 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets libdevmapper feel it |
| 20:49.30 | sjansen | libdevmapper? sound like some funky gentoo thing |
| 20:49.47 | sjansen | spr: Have you fallen off the bandwagon again? Do we need to arrange an intervention? |
| 20:50.15 | spr | sjansen: nope, Red Hat hosts the code. Its the device mapper library |
| 20:52.55 | spr | all I want is some documentation |
| 20:53.14 | emcnabb | spr: read the source, luke |
| 20:53.44 | sjansen | spr: Make some RH employee figure it out for you. |
| 20:53.54 | sjansen | Did we mention emcnabb is a RH employee? |
| 20:54.23 | mheath | haha |
| 20:54.51 | mheath | I love this "I'm such a horrible person for smoking" attitude :P |
| 20:55.25 | beandog | sjansen: hey! |
| 20:55.31 | beandog | ~gentoo sjansen |
| 20:55.43 | ibot | ACTION recompiles sjansen again |
| 20:55.43 | emcnabb | mheath: I don't care what you do |
| 20:55.43 | emcnabb | I just think it's a stupid habit |
| 20:55.47 | beandog | heh |
| 20:55.52 | emcnabb | that you just picked up for the "social" aspect |
| 20:55.59 | sjansen | emcnabb: You misunderstood. mheath thinks he's horrible person for smoking. |
| 20:56.45 | sjansen | At least, that's what he said. |
| 20:57.28 | sjansen | I guess it's nice to have a new reasonn for feeling like a horrible person. |
| 20:57.36 | sjansen | Variety is the spice of life, after all. |
| 20:58.06 | goozbach | "horrible person" no "stupid" yes... |
| 20:58.07 | Jayce^ | mmm, spice... |
| 20:58.15 | goozbach | the spice must flow! |
| 20:58.52 | localstatic | just think of all that relieved stress. Until you get cancer, anyway. |
| 20:59.09 | localstatic | I imagine that would be pretty stressful |
| 20:59.27 | levi | Or emphysema. Not being able to breathe would suck. |
| 21:01.42 | mheath | heh. I'm not going to live that long anyway :P |
| 21:01.57 | jnbek | i have COPD, but i can't quit right now, due to a herniated something or other, that means, i can't cough, so doctor told me to just smoke when i 'have' to once they find/fix the hernia, i can finally quit |
| 21:02.07 | jnbek | COPD sucks too |
| 21:02.25 | Supaplex | eek |
| 21:02.38 | mheath | COPD? |
| 21:03.19 | jnbek | chronic obstructive airway disease |
| 21:03.28 | jnbek | early stages of emphysema |
| 21:03.50 | *** part/#utah Keighvin (n=ptomlins@kei.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 21:12.09 | herlo | Here's something I didn't know about: http://www.slate.com/id/2167389/ |
| 21:12.14 | herlo | I wonder if it works in Utah... |
| 21:12.20 | herlo | yes, it is SFW |
| 21:12.31 | herlo | don't be scared of the title... |
| 21:16.05 | raventh1 | yeah it does |
| 21:16.13 | raventh1 | I commented on the /. thread about it :D |
| 21:16.29 | raventh1 | I just used my hdtv tuners and I could pick up 480i stuff that was ondemand |
| 21:17.13 | raventh1 | most hdtv tuners are supported under linux |
| 21:17.46 | Tene | jnbek: quitting leads to coughing? |
| 21:18.10 | jnbek | well you gotta get all that crap out somehow.. |
| 21:18.48 | Supaplex | TAR! I mean YAR! er .. nm. |
| 21:19.06 | sjansen | raventh1: Really? Admittedly, my info is ancient, but that didn't used to be the case. |
| 21:19.27 | sjansen | Including hardware compression of the stream? |
| 21:22.26 | sjansen | tar rvf Supaplex /dev/urandom |
| 21:23.06 | Supaplex | oh yeah. you slapped me with a device node. |
| 21:25.07 | ^Migs^ | HAHAHA: http://tinyurl.com/yr2nys |
| 21:25.25 | ^Migs^ | Here's another one: http://tinyurl.com/3b9e7m |
| 21:25.47 | Supaplex | humm google maps in elinks. fun. |
| 21:27.09 | ^Migs^ | I can't believe the Google trucks managed to film those things. That's hilarious. |
| 21:38.49 | Supaplex | http://tinyurl.com/2d5l45 spoils http://tinyurl.com/yr2nys :) |
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| 21:53.34 | beandog | mmm, hdtv |
| 21:53.44 | beandog | I pick up about 5 hdtv channels on basic cable. |
| 21:53.53 | beandog | that is, basic basic $12 basic cable. |
| 21:54.22 | levi | http://www.omnigia.com/scheme/duggfs/ |
| 21:55.57 | harleypig | wow ... generalize that out to rss/atom feeds as fs ... |
| 21:56.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Just what I needed... retardism as a local file system |
| 21:56.22 | levi | And it's written in Scheme! :) |
| 21:57.30 | Jayce^ | wow my computer just got dumber.. |
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| 21:58.00 | levi | The braininess of Scheme counteracts the idiocy of Digg, so it all evens out in the end. |
| 21:58.47 | bonez39 | My son runs xp on his machine at home...is Cygwin a good solution for a free ssh server? I'd like to be able to ssh to my home network, and then from there ssh to my son's machine.... |
| 21:59.19 | Supaplex | bonez39: yea, and putty |
| 22:01.52 | bonez39 | Supaplex, ok...I tried to d/l it when at home at lunch..I'll work on it more tonight...so once I install cygwin, it will run quietly in background, to allow ssh to connect to it? |
| 22:03.07 | harleypig | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a1e_1180120325 |
| 22:03.08 | brac | [LiveLeak.com - sony develops TV as thin as paper] |
| 22:03.10 | harleypig | Interesting |
| 22:05.48 | Supaplex | bonez39: you'll want to google "cygwin sshd" to, there are some steps to prepare it for that. and make sure ssh, and any other utils you want are selected for install. :) |
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| 22:16.12 | harleypig | http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=861#more-861 |
| 22:16.59 | harleypig | s/#more-861// |
| 22:17.10 | harleypig | sorry about taht. |
| 22:17.16 | harleypig | s/taht/that/ |
| 22:18.27 | redbeard2 | harleypig: have you ever seen memento? great show. |
| 22:24.25 | harleypig | redbeard2: I did. I loved it. |
| 22:24.58 | herlo | harleypig: have you seen disturbia? |
| 22:25.23 | harleypig | herlo: It's predictable, but fun, if you're into that kind of flick. My oldest boy refused to admit being scared but he left his lights on all night and his blinds closed. |
| 22:25.32 | harleypig | I was sooooo tempted to scare him early in the morning. |
| 22:26.57 | herlo | harleypig: hmm, I don't care for really scary movies. |
| 22:27.31 | localstatic | It wasn't that scary |
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| 22:36.51 | harleypig | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=460015&in_page_id=1965 |
| 22:36.51 | brac | [Baby robot that can walk, talk and feel | the Daily Mail] |
| 22:36.51 | harleypig | Fascinating |
| 22:36.51 | elg | "My beef was solely that the GIMP cannot (at very least by default) do what I want it to." |
| 22:36.54 | elg | I'd like gimp to earn me $10k |
| 22:39.57 | levi | elg: Heh. |
| 22:40.30 | levi | I thought the retraction of the blog entry made him look even worse than before. |
| 22:40.56 | beandog | Hmm, kinda scary when you dont know how to upgrade a program that you maintain. |
| 22:42.44 | levi | elg: I.e., it read like, "I'm removing the evidence of my utter wrongess, so you'll just have to believe me when I say I was really right all the time!" |
| 22:43.48 | harleypig | Does the drudge report have an rss feed? I can't find any on their site. |
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| 22:48.31 | findlay | they' |
| 22:48.35 | harleypig | Looks like they use dapper.net |
| 22:48.38 | findlay | re too conservative for RSS |
| 22:49.28 | findlay | RSS is a hippie, disruptive technology |
| 22:50.20 | harleypig | err ... ok |
| 22:50.34 | Jayce^ | harleypig, no, the don't, doesn't work with their ad format |
| 22:50.36 | sjansen | harleypig is a hippy? |
| 22:50.41 | sjansen | that explains so much |
| 22:50.54 | goozbach | redbeard2: have a good meatloaf recipe? |
| 22:51.10 | Jayce^ | sjansen, hippie? no, disco-boy all the way.. |
| 22:51.24 | redbeard2 | goozbach: not only have i never made meatloaf, i don't think i've ever even had it more than once |
| 22:51.28 | sjansen | disco stu loves disco music |
| 22:51.37 | Jayce^ | goozbach, try altons, it's pretty good |
| 22:51.50 | sjansen | (I'll beat the first person to call me Stu. But Disco Stu is okay.) |
| 22:52.24 | Jayce^ | harleypig, another one for your make the bad man stop... do the scene from saturday night fever, travolta going down the street in the leisure suit, with the bee-gees going. |
| 22:52.25 | sjansen | redbeard2: You're missing out. A good meatloaf, in moderation, can be tasty. |
| 22:52.30 | findlay | ibot: sjansen is also Disco Stu |
| 22:52.42 | ibot | ACTION tells is also Disco Stu good things about sjansen |
| 22:52.43 | Jayce^ | even better, meatloaf sandwich.. |
| 22:52.43 | sjansen | This of it as a meaty, greasy onion and ketchup delivery system. |
| 22:52.49 | redbeard2 | sjansen: it seems like it would be. |
| 22:53.17 | sjansen | s/This/Think/ |
| 22:53.21 | Jayce^ | ack.... http://www.tmz.com/2007/06/06/thundercats-to-purr-on-the-big-screen/ |
| 22:53.24 | brac | ["Thundercats" to Roar on the Big Screen - TMZ.com] |
| 22:53.29 | redbeard2 | thunder! |
| 22:53.30 | redbeard2 | thunder! |
| 22:53.33 | redbeard2 | thundercats! |
| 22:53.34 | redbeard2 | ho! |
| 22:53.38 | Jayce^ | or should I say... *snarf* |
| 22:54.02 | goozbach | I shouldn't prepare my shopping list while hungry |
| 22:54.23 | levi | That was 20 years ago?! I remember when Thundercats started. I feel old. |
| 22:54.26 | redbeard2 | goozbach: don't forget the jello. there's always room for it. |
| 22:54.38 | Jayce^ | remember, this is to come out *after* the new he-man movie.. |
| 22:54.41 | Jayce^ | *shudder* |
| 22:54.42 | redbeard2 | levi: i remember too. thanks for making me feel old. |
| 22:55.06 | Jayce^ | man those were bad.. |
| 22:55.13 | levi | I had a computer named snarf. |
| 22:55.19 | findlay | power rangers is still going ... |
| 22:55.29 | findlay | maybe that'll go 20 years |
| 22:56.05 | goozbach | I hadn't eaten jello in over a year. |
| 22:56.19 | goozbach | until i went home at the end of last month |
| 22:56.35 | raventh1 | sjansen: yeah it's all taken care of on the board now |
| 22:56.38 | redbeard2 | goozbach: if you need to go another years, i can help |
| 22:56.46 | redbeard2 | visualize: harleypig + jello |
| 22:56.59 | sjansen | A He-man movie? |
| 22:57.02 | raventh1 | you can just cat /dev/dvb/1 > ~/lost.322.ts |
| 22:57.09 | Jayce^ | sjansen, yup, they are casting for it.. |
| 22:57.13 | sjansen | Perhaps its time to start building a bunker. |
| 22:57.24 | Jayce^ | oooh... http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gaming/first-location+based-ds-game-hits-and-we-want-it-266496.php |
| 22:57.58 | goozbach | redbeard2: it's too late. |
| 22:58.05 | goozbach | and i don't mind Jello |
| 22:58.07 | goozbach | in moderation |
| 22:58.24 | goozbach | but thanks, i doubt i'll eat it for a couple more months now |
| 23:01.12 | beandog | I never did see the he-man movie |
| 23:01.14 | beandog | the live action one, right? |
| 23:01.19 | beandog | I wonder if its any good |
| 23:02.18 | beandog | hmm, doesnt look like its on dvd |
| 23:02.19 | beandog | que lastima. |
| 23:02.49 | mheath | hmmm |
| 23:02.53 | mheath | I leave tomorrow |
| 23:03.00 | mheath | I wonder how long it takes to drive SC->Utah |
| 23:03.03 | levi | beandog: Masters of the Universe is the name. |
| 23:03.05 | beandog | about 40 hours. |
| 23:03.17 | beandog | levi: thanks |
| 23:03.22 | findlay | heh |
| 23:03.34 | beandog | wow, 1.5 stars |
| 23:03.38 | beandog | you dont see that much. |
| 23:03.43 | beandog | Average of raters like you: 1.2 stars |
| 23:03.55 | mheath | In terms of days. |
| 23:04.00 | mheath | 40 hours does not help |
| 23:04.06 | beandog | 2 |
| 23:04.07 | beandog | :) |
| 23:04.10 | levi | Depends on how much you sleep. :) |
| 23:04.31 | levi | I don't recommend that. |
| 23:04.33 | mheath | I wonder if I could do it in 3 days relatively comfortably. |
| 23:04.35 | findlay | well, 40 hours, that's about 5/3 days |
| 23:04.59 | beandog | of course, we swtiched off driving |
| 23:05.11 | beandog | switched |
| 23:05.52 | levi | mheath: I think the last time I drove from Maryland to Utah I took 3 days. Wasn't too bad, but I had a co-driver. |
| 23:06.06 | mheath | I have a co-drivertoo |
| 23:06.19 | mheath | My dad has very generously flown down here to drive back with me |
| 23:06.20 | goozbach | mheath: we went from UT->FL in 3.2 days |
| 23:06.35 | mheath | Well, yeah, I know 3 days + 1 short day would be easily doable |
| 23:06.42 | mheath | I want to see if we can possibly get it down to 3 though |
| 23:06.52 | levi | Yeah, you can do it. |
| 23:06.53 | goozbach | and we probally could have made it in 2 had we not visited with family en-route |
| 23:07.17 | goozbach | utah to new mexico in one day |
| 23:07.29 | goozbach | new mexico to dallas the next day |
| 23:07.42 | goozbach | dallas to pensacola the next |
| 23:08.07 | goozbach | we could have probally made at least Lousiana the second day |
| 23:08.12 | goozbach | but we stopped in dallas |
| 23:09.11 | levi | I drove with my family from the Seattle area to Maryland. |
| 23:09.37 | levi | The logistics were pretty interesting, since my family had 4 cars and 3 drivers. |
| 23:10.09 | findlay | heh |
| 23:10.39 | levi | We had some friends who drove one of the cars for us to Utah, and we left in the other 3. We dropped off one of the cars for me in Utah, picked up the one the friends drove there, and continued on our way in those for the rest of the trip. |
| 23:10.54 | mheath | I wish there was a website like google maps that could break your trip into doable portions |
| 23:11.08 | levi | The pace was pretty slow, since we visited relatives for a while in Utah and then never drove more than 8 hours or so per day. |
| 23:11.36 | levi | mheath: http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/road/rtgHome.jsp |
| 23:11.38 | brac | [Rand McNally - Plan A Road Trip] |
| 23:11.48 | beandog | its pretty okay going until you hit those places in texas or kansas (depending on if you go north or south) and theres nothing for hours at a time. |
| 23:12.02 | levi | Might not be exactly what you were looking for, but I used their non-web software a lot in the past while planning road trips. |
| 23:18.59 | sjansen | mheath: Do you have AAA? They'll create a "trip-tic" for you with estimates. |
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| 23:24.25 | localstatic | I guess he found the magic key sequence... |
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