| 00:18.24 | sontek | thats what hacked xboxes are for =) |
| 00:34.37 | Supaplex | gimmie |
| 01:24.55 | dna3e8 | Setting up a mil server seems daunting..... |
| 01:40.07 | mheath | dna3e8: mil? Mail? |
| 01:40.12 | mheath | Supaplex: Give you what? :P |
| 01:40.34 | dna3e8 | mail |
| 01:41.34 | dna3e8 | Supaplex wants an xboxs... medi hacked computer.. |
| 01:42.09 | dna3e8 | sry i should not Type while under the influence |
| 01:43.48 | mheath | No, you definitely shouldn't. |
| 01:44.41 | dna3e8 | TWI |
| 01:44.47 | dna3e8 | TUI |
| 01:45.43 | dna3e8 | what is you alls favorite mail server? |
| 01:45.52 | mheath | Postfix. |
| 01:54.28 | dna3e8 | what do you know about send mail? |
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| 01:58.59 | harleypig | Is there a diagram somehwere of the apache2 request life cycle and how mod_perl2 hooks into it? |
| 02:44.01 | harleypig | Anyone got a decent tutorial on the various steps of a request lifecycle in apache2? I'd like to figure out how to implement an auth scheme separate from the content (at least, code wise) |
| 02:45.17 | harleypig | I'd also like to see if TT can be used with Apache2 |
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| 06:53.48 | nick125_lappy | Must...put....keyboard....down.....bah |
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| 07:46.18 | nick125_lappy | I swear, Frets On Fire is one of the best open source games out there. |
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| 08:51.11 | nick125_lappy | 94% accuracy! yay |
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| 13:22.58 | Sargun | I love the gurus, and X-gurus over at guru labs |
| 13:31.01 | mheath | O.o |
| 13:33.38 | Sargun | mheath, How's the study of the technology related to nuclear reactors going? |
| 13:33.54 | mheath | .... |
| 13:34.14 | mheath | Sargun: I've been out of training for 3 weeks. I'm getting discharged soon. |
| 13:34.41 | Sargun | Oh, ouch, sorry to hear that, may I ask why? |
| 13:35.08 | mheath | Orthopedic problems, and psychological problems apparently. |
| 13:36.11 | mheath | The Navy doesn't like attempted suicide. |
| 13:40.46 | Sargun | :-/ |
| 13:40.50 | Sargun | I'm sorry. |
| 13:41.00 | Sargun | So, what's next? |
| 13:41.36 | mheath | Whats next? Well, first, today, I play some more WoW. |
| 13:41.48 | mheath | ERM, Lets see |
| 13:41.52 | mheath | No, first, I shower |
| 13:41.56 | mheath | Then I go to wake up my friend |
| 13:41.59 | mheath | Then I go smoke |
| 13:42.02 | mheath | Then I play WoW> |
| 13:42.07 | mheath | :) |
| 13:43.24 | mheath | Heh, I'm playing with the idea of starting a business when I get back home. |
| 13:46.23 | Sargun | heh |
| 13:46.33 | Sargun | WoW: Good. |
| 13:46.39 | Sargun | Shower: Better. |
| 13:46.55 | Sargun | Smoke (weed): Best. |
| 13:47.03 | mheath | .......... |
| 13:47.08 | Sargun | What kind of business? |
| 13:47.12 | Sargun | Which one of your ideas |
| 13:47.25 | mheath | Uh, I'm in the Navy, Sargun. Smoking weed is generally discouraged. |
| 13:47.41 | Sargun | Good point. |
| 13:47.44 | mheath | Sargun: Linux based home entertainment PCs. |
| 13:48.04 | mheath | Eventually extend that to home automation products. |
| 13:48.05 | Sargun | Personally I mind weed a lot less than tobacco. |
| 13:48.27 | Sargun | Tobacco smells bad to me, and the second hand smoke is horrible. |
| 13:48.38 | Sargun | And neat, hardware too, or software only? |
| 13:49.17 | mheath | Hardware. |
| 13:49.47 | Sargun | Cool. |
| 13:50.09 | Sargun | A normal ATX case with x86 hardware? |
| 13:50.24 | Sargun | running Linux + various other home automation stuff? |
| 13:50.33 | mheath | Not a normal ATX case. An ATX case, but not a normal one. |
| 13:51.02 | mheath | Small form factor, horizontal case, with front panel features applicable to an entertainment PC. |
| 13:52.10 | mheath | The software will be customized a lot, but primarily the things on it will be MythTV and a specialized Gnome desktop setup for easy remote navigation |
| 13:52.33 | mheath | I'm also hoping to continue working / finish on some Windows migration tools I worked on a few years ago and dropped |
| 13:52.53 | mheath | That facilitate easily running Windows programs from Linux, in a way that is comfortable to Windows users |
| 13:53.29 | mheath | (some things that, for example, autorun the autorun software on a Windows CD, add the Windows startmenu entries to your gnome startmenu, et |
| 13:53.32 | mheath | *etc) |
| 13:56.39 | mheath | Nice to know he cares. |
| 14:35.13 | levi_home | mheath: It's good to hear you thinking about your computer ideas again. |
| 14:38.23 | mheath | Heh, yeah, right :P |
| 14:38.44 | mheath | I do like the idea of a Linux entertainment PC |
| 14:38.56 | mheath | I was looking around and i couldn't find any company that ships ready made units like that |
| 14:39.00 | mheath | at |
| 14:39.02 | mheath | At all* |
| 14:39.26 | mheath | Now, time for that shower. |
| 14:57.42 | mheath | Question, though |
| 14:57.51 | mheath | Do you think such a thing would sell? |
| 14:58.04 | mheath | The basic premise. I stil think I have a lot of ideas for it that would make it far more marketable |
| 17:37.18 | nick125_lappy | Eeeeeek, I hate frames so much.. |
| 17:40.34 | nick125_lappy | I also hate sites that only work right in IE |
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| 20:47.22 | nick125_lappy | Ugh, this keyboard seems to have an issue with pressing two F keys at once and trying to press shirt |
| 20:48.37 | nick125_lappy | Either that or I suck. |
| 20:49.18 | nick125_lappy | Either of which is a possibility |
| 21:02.41 | tensai | ~seen jsmith |
| 21:03.08 | ibot | jsmith <n=jsmith@69-94-196-13.biltmorecomm.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk-doc, 2d 3h 41m 7s ago, saying: 'Are they all using 20ms packets?'. |
| 21:10.41 | findlay | hm, I don't have a shirt button |
| 21:13.29 | findlay | or you had a function mapped to one of your keys that pressed your shirts for you? |
| 21:28.04 | nick125_lappy | *shift |
| 21:28.04 | nick125_lappy | a shirt button would be itneresting |
| 21:28.05 | nick125_lappy | *interesting |
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| 21:43.16 | ibot | cowers in fear |
| 21:48.34 | nick125_lappy | This bluetooth keyboard has so much latency |
| 21:48.44 | nick125_lappy | Much more than a regular keyboard |
| 21:48.51 | nick125_lappy | or even a normal wireless keyboard |
| 21:49.36 | nick125_lappy | Which is really killing my FoF scores :( |
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| 21:53.24 | bonez41 | anyone know how to get xbox tray to open..when eject button, and paperclip in pinhole do NOT work? |
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| 21:53.46 | harleypig | Got a dns question if anyone's listening |
| 21:53.56 | bonez41 | fire away, harleypig |
| 21:54.39 | harleypig | I've got harleypig.com and harleypigprogramming.com ... I want harleypigprogramming.com to resolve to harleypig.com |
| 21:55.18 | harleypig | So, regardless of what someone is trying to access at harleypigprogramming.com, it should be shunted to harleypig.com |
| 21:56.52 | bonez41 | what about dns forwarding at the registrar level? |
| 21:58.08 | mheath | Opinions: Would you all consider buying a Linux entertainment PC? Well designed, with all the necessary hardware working flawlessly |
| 21:58.16 | mheath | That is, do you think thats a product that would be viable on the market? |
| 21:59.11 | bonez41 | mheath, what are the OS choices curerntly on the market in home enertainment systems? it'd be a no brainer for me.... |
| 21:59.37 | nick125_lappy | harleypig: You could use a CNAME, but, I don't know if that is exactly what you want |
| 21:59.39 | sontek | mheath: nope, a hacked xbox running linux is better than anything else out there right now |
| 21:59.49 | harleypig | bonez39: not sure ... I'll see what godaddy has. |
| 22:00.41 | sontek | mheath: It'd have to be a better interfae than xbox media center and have the ability to be controlled by interfaces/controllers before it'd be worth purchasing |
| 22:00.49 | sontek | especially since hacking an xbox is free =) |
| 22:01.08 | nick125_lappy | mheath: If I was able to hack the device and make my own modifications, then it would be a consideration |
| 22:01.13 | mheath | sontek: XBox's have a TV Tuner card? |
| 22:01.36 | mheath | nick125_lappy: Of course you'd be able to. It's 100% Linux compatible, standard ATX computer system. |
| 22:01.40 | sontek | mheath: xboxes have the ability to play videos from a network |
| 22:01.47 | nick125_lappy | mheath: I mean software-wise |
| 22:01.50 | sontek | mheath: tv tuner cards are a waste |
| 22:02.02 | nick125_lappy | True, there isn't a lot good on TV anymore |
| 22:02.06 | sontek | mheath: no point in recording the videos from cable when they are already on torrent sites |
| 22:02.36 | mheath | Uh, yeah. But the primary goal of an entertainment PC is usually to act as a PVR |
| 22:02.47 | mheath | Kinda hard for something to act as a PVR with no TV tuner. |
| 22:02.58 | nick125_lappy | mheath: Would it be something like MythTV with a bunch of plugins and a custom skin |
| 22:03.01 | sontek | mheath: but with xbox media center they support every major codec (xvid, divx, etc) and have a great interface for viewing videos over the internet |
| 22:03.23 | sontek | mheath: and for people looking to do PVR they'll use mythtv |
| 22:03.33 | mheath | ..... |
| 22:03.34 | nick125_lappy | mheath: Would it support NFS/Samba out of the box (so you can watch media remotely located) |
| 22:03.36 | sontek | mheath: and then hook it up to an xbox :P |
| 22:03.45 | mheath | sontek: I'm talking about a hardware product! |
| 22:03.51 | mheath | It would obviously run MythTV |
| 22:04.05 | mheath | Well, a mostly-hardware product |
| 22:04.09 | sontek | mheath: providing free products at a fee isn't a good business model |
| 22:04.11 | harleypig | bonez39: The only thing I can find relating to forwarding on godaddy is just http forwarding. |
| 22:04.11 | mheath | nick125_lappy: Yes. |
| 22:04.27 | mheath | sontek: Since when is a few hundred dollars worth of hardware free? |
| 22:04.44 | harleypig | I want to make ftp.harleypigprogramming.com the same as ftp.harleypig.com, etc. |
| 22:05.33 | sontek | mheath: because the only way you'll make money is on the hardware, since the software is free, and no one in their right mind would pay a markup on hardware they can buy themselves |
| 22:05.48 | mheath | Uh |
| 22:05.51 | mheath | People do that all the time |
| 22:05.52 | mheath | Constantly |
| 22:05.59 | mheath | Whenever they go and buy a computer system |
| 22:06.09 | mheath | This is a thing meant for home users. A home entertainment appliance. |
| 22:06.32 | sontek | mheath: so go take advantage of the stupid, more p I lost a few hours at night trying to do network installs |
| 22:06.42 | sontek | whoops |
| 22:06.43 | harleypig | sontek: Most people aren't even aware, nor care, that they're paying a markup. The only time, even for the casual geek user, it becomes noticeable is when its gouging. |
| 22:06.45 | sontek | my paste kicked in |
| 22:07.04 | nick125_lappy | I'd rather be more interested in some well designed hardware |
| 22:07.13 | sontek | yeah, If mheath wants to take advantage of the ignorant more power to him =) |
| 22:07.15 | mheath | I'm not talking about gouging, and it's not rediculous to expect to make some money off a small markup on a quality product. |
| 22:07.24 | nick125_lappy | You know, LCDs on the front, etc |
| 22:07.26 | sontek | but his hardware better be better than an xbox =) |
| 22:07.45 | nick125_lappy | a case tuned for silence, etc |
| 22:08.00 | nick125_lappy | I don't want it to sound like a 747 taking off |
| 22:08.02 | mheath | nick125_lappy: I'm looking at a lot of things like that, too. |
| 22:08.04 | nick125_lappy | (like my 360) |
| 22:08.25 | mheath | It's a very sleek system that i'm designing. Fits in well with normal home entertainment equipment. |
| 22:08.52 | mheath | Also looking into a lot of different input options. Trying to find stuff that a user would feel comfortable using while sitting back on their couch, that kind of thing. |
| 22:09.04 | nick125_lappy | You should also make some sleek looking repeater devices (essentially mythtv frontends) |
| 22:09.30 | nick125_lappy | maybe a VIA EPIA board |
| 22:09.37 | nick125_lappy | 600mhz fanless |
| 22:09.46 | mheath | nick125_lappy: Thats a long-term goal. I don't have the resources to start off making things like that. |
| 22:09.56 | mheath | But thats a long term thing I'm definitely considering |
| 22:12.10 | nick125_lappy | I used to use mythtv a lot, but, not much anymore, since Comcast forced us to get digital cable boxes with Digital Consumer Enablement.. |
| 22:14.13 | mheath | nick125_lappy: http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/desktop/mozart_SX/mozartsx_vc7001.asp |
| 22:14.17 | brac | [Thermaltake - Mozart SX: VC7000] |
| 22:17.22 | mheath | I will bbiab |
| 22:17.32 | nick125_lappy | mheath: How would you deal with the DCE of the media industry? |
| 22:42.25 | raventh1 | sontek: dude so sick |
| 22:43.03 | raventh1 | i feel horrible i missed last night too, but i was mostly bed ridden the whole day :( |
| 22:56.55 | harleypig | Am I misunderstanding something here? If I have hp.com and hpp.com and I want hpp.com to resolve to hp.com, I can just make a CNAME entry for hpp.com pointing to hp.com? COrrect? |
| 22:58.29 | harleypig | Maybe not ... I'm getting errors. |
| 23:02.43 | mheath | nick125_lappy: licensing of major codecs |
| 23:03.08 | mheath | and thats not really necessary |
| 23:03.23 | mheath | The main purpose of a PVR is to record TV shows and DVD rips, etc. |
| 23:03.42 | mheath | Licensing other codecs is only necessary for clips the user grabs themselves. |
| 23:04.49 | mheath | BTW, DCE == DRM + "I'm trying to sound cool" |
| 23:09.33 | harleypig | Is there a way I can map subdomains to a directory with apache2? |
| 23:10.03 | mheath | Yep. |
| 23:10.22 | harleypig | I.e., hp.com maps to /home/www/com/hp ... I want http://hp.com to go to /home/www/com/hp/_, www.hp.com to go to hp/www, etc. |
| 23:10.44 | harleypig | How? |
| 23:10.55 | harleypig | and what keyword would I use in searching ... I can't find it. |
| 23:10.57 | mheath | harleypig: one sec, let me link some docs |
| 23:10.58 | nick125_lappy | mheath: I'm being sarcastic and using HBO's term for DRM |
| 23:12.10 | mheath | harleypig: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html |
| 23:12.11 | brac | [VirtualHost Examples - Apache HTTP Server] |
| 23:12.39 | mheath | In your example, you'd do something like: |
| 23:12.45 | mheath | <VirtualHost *:80> |
| 23:12.54 | mheath | DocumentRoot /home/www/com/hp/_ |
| 23:13.09 | mheath | ServerName hp.com |
| 23:13.15 | mheath | </VirtualHost> |
| 23:13.15 | mheath | etc. |
| 23:13.36 | harleypig | Oops. I wasn't complete in my question. I know how to do this already. I wanted to make it so that all I'd have to do is create the directory in /home/www/com/hp and it would be available as a subdomain. |
| 23:13.56 | harleypig | So mkdir test in /home/www/com/hp would make test.hp.com available. |
| 23:14.31 | harleypig | Otherwise, garbage.hp.com should default to hp.com (or maybe a 404 handler of some kind). |
| 23:14.33 | mheath | Hmmm. One sec. |
| 23:15.59 | mheath | harleypig: I think the best option would be to use something like mod_rewrite so that test.hp.com rewirtes to hp.com/test, etc. |
| 23:16.08 | mheath | I haven't done that before, and thats what comes to mind. |
| 23:16.21 | nick125_lappy | mheath: You can't rip DVDs with your device though... |
| 23:16.25 | harleypig | ok, thanks. |
| 23:16.37 | harleypig | going to dinner, tanks for the hlep |
| 23:16.38 | nick125_lappy | Mainly because it is against the DMCA to break that worthless encryption called CSS |
| 23:21.29 | nick125_lappy | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070524-hd-dvd-blu-ray-managed-copy-coming-later-this-year.html < what a crock of crap. "Managed Copy"? What about that weird thing that we used to have called fair-use? |
| 23:21.46 | nick125_lappy | Oh, that's right. We don't have it anymore. |
| 23:21.51 | nick125_lappy | I keep forgetting. |
| 23:21.54 | sontek | raventh1: its ok, I was at the club for like an hour an no one showed so I went to piper down wit some friends |
| 23:22.44 | mheath | nick125_lappy: Thats never been proven |
| 23:23.05 | mheath | Theres never been a court order saying that legitimate Linux DVD software used for legitimate playback is illegal. |
| 23:23.35 | nick125_lappy | Remember the entire DeCSS fiasco? |
| 23:26.47 | mheath | nick125_lappy: http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/DVDCCA_case/20040122_eff_pr.php |
| 23:27.35 | mheath | nick125_lappy: There are also DVD decorder cards as an option. |
| 23:28.52 | nick125_lappy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_v._Reimerdes |
| 23:30.55 | nick125_lappy | Although...Libdvdcss looks promising |
| 23:30.57 | nick125_lappy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss |
| 23:31.02 | nick125_lappy | "libdvdcss is not to be confused with DeCSS. While DeCSS uses a cracked DVD player key to perform authentication, libdvdcss uses a generated list of possible player keys. If none of them work (for instance, when the DVD drive enforces region coding) a brute force algorithm is tried so the region code of a DVD is ignored. Unlike DeCSS, libdvdcss has never been fought over in a courtroom, in part because Section 1201(f) of the Digital Millennium Cop |
| 23:32.27 | mheath | nick125_lappy: Yes. You can legitimately play DVD in Linux. Like I said, no court has ever ruled on that. |
| 23:37.16 | nick125_lappy | There was a lawsuit about ripping DVDs for later playback without the disk, and, I think they ruled against the DVDCCA in that case, but, I can't find it to make sure. |
| 23:37.42 | mheath | nick125_lappy: Yes, and that would be a consumer problem, not a hardware vendor problem |
| 23:37.53 | mheath | And don't tell me they'd still sue me |
| 23:38.24 | mheath | Thats like saying they'd sue the manufacturers of conventional DVD players, because you can transfer the DVD to VHS and play it back later without the disk. |
| 23:40.03 | nick125_lappy | mheath: But, it could be something like the Sony vs. Universal (the "betamax case") |