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| 01:39.09 | graphyx | I have a ton of data here. Is there a way to get it to just print out only the email addresses from a certain domain? |
| 01:39.33 | graphyx | I have like 5000 files and I want a list of all emails from @company.com |
| 01:39.41 | Tene | perl! |
| 01:39.54 | graphyx | well I was thinking... |
| 01:40.20 | graphyx | grep -rl @domain.com * | perl -e 'something' |
| 01:40.43 | graphyx | what would be the simplest something to just print out the email on the line? |
| 01:41.22 | Tene | perl -lan -e 'print if m/@domain.com/' |
| 01:41.25 | Tene | shoudl work, I think |
| 01:41.39 | Tene | might need to escape the @, not sure |
| 01:41.49 | graphyx | ok |
| 01:42.05 | Tene | I'm leaving in a couple of minutes, so test it and let me know. |
| 01:42.14 | graphyx | tene that would print out the entire line |
| 01:42.20 | Tene | graphyx: -a |
| 01:42.35 | Tene | autosplit mode |
| 01:43.32 | graphyx | ok |
| 01:43.35 | graphyx | it try it |
| 01:44.23 | graphyx | no dice. |
| 01:44.31 | graphyx | whoops |
| 01:44.37 | graphyx | i didn't switch domain name |
| 01:44.54 | graphyx | still no dice. |
| 01:45.26 | Tene | Aw. |
| 01:45.26 | mheath | Evening |
| 01:45.29 | Tene | \2 |
| 01:45.30 | Tene | erm |
| 01:45.31 | Tene | \@ |
| 01:45.44 | graphyx | doesn't even match on domain |
| 01:45.52 | graphyx | hold on |
| 01:45.55 | graphyx | I messed up agaion |
| 01:46.38 | graphyx | yes it prints the entire line still. |
| 01:46.43 | Tene | hmm |
| 01:47.11 | graphyx | i got it |
| 01:47.30 | graphyx | print $1 if m/(\w+\@domain.com)/ |
| 01:47.36 | Tene | that works |
| 01:47.53 | graphyx | ok got 45 addresses. |
| 01:47.54 | graphyx | thanks. |
| 01:48.02 | Tene | oh, I misunderstood -a |
| 01:48.38 | graphyx | thanks for the help tene |
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| 02:28.07 | Tene | np |
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| 04:22.00 | fozzmoo | yadda yadda yadda |
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| 09:28.48 | mheath | bah. |
| 09:43.16 | Tene | what's up? |
| 09:43.57 | mheath | Heh, another doc appointment this morning. |
| 09:44.26 | mheath | And it bugs me. My roomate is rubbing it in my face that he's higher rank than me (The only reason he is, is because they auto-promote you here after the first segment of your training, and his training happens to be shorter than mine) |
| 09:57.22 | Tene | Weird. |
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| 10:04.15 | bonez41 | I get this error....> Subject: Cron <mail@zugraum> if [ -x /usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf |
| 10:04.15 | bonez41 | +]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi and then exim: permission denied How do I resolve this? |
| 10:06.18 | bonez41 | I also see this show up in my system email > Subject: Cron <root@zugraum> test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts +--report /etc/cron.daily ) From root@xmission.com Wed May 23 06:28:51 2007 run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/exim exited with return code 1 |
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| 13:31.23 | ^Migs^ | anyone want some business cards for less than $0.99? http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=523795 |
| 13:34.21 | herlo | ^Migs^: tx |
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| 15:02.00 | elg | -chat |
| 15:02.02 | brac | Never tried to transfer to BYU would think you have a great way to permanently turn on "debug" messages to what/etc? |
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| 15:12.04 | levi | Morning. |
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| 15:13.23 | elg | -lart lukfugl |
| 15:13.34 | lukfugl | -lart elg |
| 15:37.22 | levi | Heh. |
| 15:37.56 | QBFreak | there are files on this drive that have not been touched since 1995 |
| 15:38.02 | QBFreak | makes you wonder how long till it fails |
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| 15:53.51 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | The Guru Labs take over of #utah continues apace. Perhaps you'd like to be next. We're still hire. Resistance is futile. |
| 15:54.20 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | The Guru Labs take over of #utah continues apace. Perhaps you'd like to be next? We're still hire. Resistance is futile. |
| 15:55.35 | lukfugl | "We're still hire." |
| 15:55.50 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | The Guru Labs take over of #utah continues apace. Perhaps you'd like to be next? We're still hiring. Resistance is futile. |
| 15:56.07 | sjansen | lukfugl: We could use a few good people with proofreading skills. ;-) |
| 15:56.54 | harleypig | Got many people with kids working there sjansen? |
| 15:57.08 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.14 | harleypig | ? what's with the h? |
| 15:57.34 | harleypig | oh |
| 15:58.13 | sjansen | harleypig: One of our employees has 7 kids. |
| 15:58.24 | harleypig | Wow. |
| 15:58.37 | sjansen | thaddeusq: It is 7, right? |
| 15:58.45 | harleypig | So, they're able to make the travel work with their SO then? |
| 15:59.18 | findlay | do you have people who listen to Beethoven for recreation? |
| 15:59.29 | thaddeusq | yeah it's 7 |
| 15:59.47 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 15:59.49 | harleypig | thaddeusq: How does your SO handle it? |
| 16:00.21 | Jayce^ | yeah, that's quite a bender for you :) |
| 16:00.39 | harleypig | umm ... not going there ... :> |
| 16:00.43 | thaddeusq | harleypig: my wife handles it ok. She actually came to Philly with me this week |
| 16:01.29 | harleypig | Really? That's cool. |
| 16:01.43 | findlay | who can discriminate between the artistic invariants characteristic of Karajan, Klieber, Abbado, and Tilson-Thomas? |
| 16:01.54 | findlay | heard in Beethoven's symphonies? |
| 16:02.12 | Jayce^ | harleypig can, he's bigoted like that.. |
| 16:02.52 | findlay | huh? Do you, sjansen? |
| 16:04.11 | sjansen | findlay: Good electronica is the modern equivalent of Beethoven and we have several electronica fans. |
| 16:04.55 | harleypig | I'm only bigoted against Jayce^. |
| 16:04.59 | findlay | or who can hear the difference between the sound of the Berliner Philharmoniker and the Wiener Philharmoniker or the London Symphony and the Philharmonia? |
| 16:05.24 | thaddeusq | There's a difference? |
| 16:06.58 | sjansen | thaddeusq: Yes. You're not likely to hear the London Symphony in Berlin, for example. |
| 16:08.28 | thaddeusq | People in Berlin don't listen to the London Symphony? |
| 16:09.54 | findlay | the London Symphony has a way different sound from the Berliner Philharmoniker |
| 16:10.30 | findlay | if you were told a recordong was by one of those two you could tell which one it was |
| 16:10.32 | levi | sjansen: I wouldn't go so far as to compare a musical genre to a specific composer. |
| 16:10.34 | sjansen | thaddeusq: You didn't know? The classic music world is one of the oldest gang cultures. If you caught in the wrong twon with the wrong composer on your ipod... well, let's just say it's not a good idea. |
| 16:10.49 | findlay | yeah ... |
| 16:10.51 | findlay | :) |
| 16:11.41 | thaddeusq | I like being so close to New Jersey where they play Bon Jovi songs on their "Visit New Jersey" commercials. |
| 16:13.54 | findlay | although I'm not so nutty that I'm particularly OCD about my sound system |
| 16:14.33 | findlay | ipods are useless though since they don't support flac |
| 16:14.38 | levi | findlay: That's just because you don't have enough money to be. ;) |
| 16:14.46 | findlay | levi: I was about to say that |
| 16:14.50 | findlay | :) |
| 16:15.03 | levi | findlay: iPods support Apple Lossless. |
| 16:16.13 | levi | Except for the iPod Shuffle, though, they apparently have less than audiophile-level fidelity in their circuitry. |
| 16:18.57 | findlay | apple lossless isn't free |
| 16:23.38 | sjansen | levi: Maybe _you_ wouldn't. But I find that a willingness to embrace the uncertain and redefine it as certainty by inventing facts is endearing. |
| 16:26.06 | ^Migs^ | http://www.capricehorn.com/galerie/32_fuchs/toys030.jpg |
| 16:26.08 | ^Migs^ | what is going on here? |
| 16:33.27 | harleypig | Err ... you never noticed the resemblance of the empire's uniforms to nazi uniforms? |
| 16:34.36 | levi | http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/8b/8b3c3d65c34ea26dd7a33d206b64c65122d842c1.jpg |
| 16:35.39 | lukfugl | that's one humongo picture, levi |
| 16:36.25 | levi | Hmm, Firefox scaled it down for me so I didn't notice. |
| 16:41.31 | levi | It's from the best book ever! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0533091020 |
| 16:42.55 | levi | The whole book was scanned in here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2457332&perpage=1&pagenumber=1 |
| 16:42.57 | brac | [The most amazing book ever! [56k no] - The Something Awful Forums] |
| 16:48.37 | ^Migs^ | that has to be the biggest wtf I've seen in awhile |
| 16:49.45 | ^Migs^ | those Amazon reviews are funny |
| 16:50.31 | lukfugl | firefox scaled my copy down too, but it took forever to load, and I could feel the RAM churn as a switched back and forth from firefox |
| 16:51.12 | findlay | mmm, churned RAM |
| 16:51.45 | elg | umm, it was 236K |
| 16:52.14 | lukfugl | elg: I blame firefox then |
| 16:52.25 | lukfugl | it was definitely acting like it was in more pain |
| 16:52.39 | lukfugl | and it *did* take several seconds to download fully |
| 16:52.49 | findlay | how much is 236 K of compressed image file in raw display data? |
| 16:52.55 | lukfugl | ~lart clooged intertubes |
| 16:52.55 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks clooged intertubes over |
| 16:53.09 | lukfugl | s/clooged/clogged/ |
| 16:58.26 | elg | the image is 1348x2048 pixels, so 2760704 pixels so 11042816 bytes if there's 4 bytes per pixel |
| 16:58.34 | elg | i.e. about a megabyte |
| 16:59.58 | findlay | ~convert 1 megabyte to yoctobytes |
| 17:00.20 | lukfugl | yoctobytes? |
| 17:00.56 | findlay | 10e-24 bytes |
| 17:01.23 | ^Migs^ | I've never heard of that |
| 17:01.39 | findlay | which is silly because bits are already supposed to be atomic |
| 17:04.06 | ^Migs^ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yocto |
| 17:06.07 | ^Migs^ | http://img.worsethanfailure.com/Images/200705/error'd/channel5.jpg |
| 17:14.33 | Jayce^ | hrm, you can get the dell + ubuntu preloaded, if you set it up for > $1k, there is a $350 off deal |
| 17:20.37 | findlay | obviously though anyone with enough refinement would know that Karajan+Berliner Philharmoniker is the best ensamble ever |
| 17:23.16 | rsimpkins | Why hasn't someone sued (and won) against drive manufacturues interpretation of *bytes? |
| 17:24.31 | findlay | yeah, aesthetically, it's just wrong |
| 17:24.37 | levi | Because they follow the standard interpretation of the SI prefixes. |
| 17:30.55 | rsimpkins | standard interpretation? |
| 17:31.09 | rsimpkins | a bit is a 1 or 0. a byte is 8 bits. is it not? |
| 17:31.30 | levi | Yes. |
| 17:34.13 | lukfugl | levi's saying that they follow the mega- = 1e6 instead of 2e10 SI prefix standard |
| 17:34.25 | rsimpkins | Ahh |
| 17:34.28 | lukfugl | err, 2e20 |
| 17:34.34 | rsimpkins | It is still just wrong. :) |
| 17:34.56 | findlay | I think we should adopt base-3 counting |
| 17:34.59 | lukfugl | and I just realized I'm using "e" compeltely wrong there :) |
| 17:35.22 | lukfugl | rephrased: "mega- = 10^6 instead of 2^20" |
| 17:35.27 | findlay | and get rid of this base 2, base 10 nonsense |
| 17:36.06 | findlay | and then we'll just have 3 fingers |
| 17:36.16 | lukfugl | 2^20 = mebibyte, not megabyte, if one is being pedantic |
| 17:36.35 | lukfugl | and abbreviated MiB, rather than MB |
| 17:36.35 | findlay | except that mebibyte looks funny |
| 17:39.48 | levi | rsimpkins: Arguably, the computer jargon usage of SI prefixes is what's wrong. |
| 17:40.48 | levi | Thus the invention of kibibyte, mebibyte, etc. to avoid trampling on the SI prefixes. |
| 17:44.06 | levi | In fact, SI and IEC specifically recommend the interpretation that you believe is wrong. I'm afraid they have a lot more influence than you. |
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| 17:44.10 | ibot | cowers in fear |
| 17:44.57 | findlay | levi: do they recommend not using base-2 units at all? |
| 17:45.05 | findlay | because that would be stupid :) |
| 17:45.40 | levi | No, they recommend the mebibyte/kibibyte etc. usage for base-2 units. |
| 17:46.08 | findlay | ok, that's better |
| 17:46.34 | lukfugl | and they recommend that if you say "megabyte", you actually mean 10^6 bytes |
| 17:47.32 | levi | 'They' includes the IEC, IEEE, EU, and NIST, apparently. |
| 17:47.46 | findlay | fine with me |
| 17:47.56 | findlay | they += findlay |
| 17:50.27 | YoctoMigs | I'm going to start referring to everything in femtobytes. "I have 2500000000000000000 femtobytes remaining on my computer" |
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| 17:52.41 | ibot | cowers in fear |
| 17:53.46 | findlay | it's fun to combine arcane metric prefixes with archaic units, like attobaths |
| 17:53.57 | findlay | ~convert 1 attobath into cubic meters |
| 17:54.12 | findlay | ~convert 1 attobath into liters |
| 17:54.27 | findlay | ~convert 1 attobath to cubic meters |
| 18:00.30 | YoctoMigs | lol |
| 18:12.56 | findlay | ~convert megatons to micronewtons |
| 18:14.06 | findlay | ironically it was Newton who finally, formally seperated out the force of gravity from the measurment of mass |
| 18:14.47 | Lone_Wanderer | a newton is a measurement of the force of gravity? |
| 18:14.54 | findlay | just force |
| 18:15.01 | Lone_Wanderer | ok |
| 18:15.44 | findlay | although I don't remember if tons are supposed to measure force or mass |
| 18:16.03 | findlay | it's just a constant multiple away anyway |
| 18:16.06 | Lone_Wanderer | doesn't it depend on the kind of ton? |
| 18:16.07 | levi | Stupid GNU manpages with preachy commands not to use strtok or strsep. :P |
| 18:17.02 | Lone_Wanderer | or are different kinds of tons just different amounts of the same measurement? |
| 18:17.02 | findlay | Lone_Wanderer: maybe both :) |
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| 18:18.31 | levi | There are weight tons/gross tons that are based on weight. A metric ton is based on mass, and is a multiple of kilograms. |
| 18:18.47 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 18:18.57 | findlay | weight == force |
| 18:19.38 | levi | So there's a long ton, which is the weight equivalent of a metric ton, a short ton, which is 2000lbs, and a metric ton. |
| 18:20.47 | Lone_Wanderer | What's the difference between weight and mass? Is weight a measurement of a certain mass on Earth? |
| 18:22.02 | levi | Mass is the amount of stuff. Weight is how much gravity pulls on it. |
| 18:22.08 | findlay | weight = (mass)x(acceleration of gravity) |
| 18:22.36 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 18:23.44 | levi | As long as you stay in a similar gravitational field, you can convert between the two kinds of measurements with a simple unit conversion. |
| 18:23.45 | YoctoMigs | mass always remains constant |
| 18:24.15 | levi | Weight will, of course, fluctuate with gravitational changes. |
| 18:24.23 | YoctoMigs | well, that's not an entirely correct statement, but you understand |
| 18:27.18 | findlay | it stays constant enough if you stay within Newtonian constraints |
| 18:40.10 | lukfugl | http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa070524_wz_taksprotest.6fe879b.html |
| 18:40.11 | brac | [FW students protest TAKS decision | Latest News | |
| 18:40.12 | brac | WFAA.com] |
| 18:40.28 | lukfugl | note the poster in the picture :) |
| 18:47.54 | mheath | Afternoon, everyone. |
| 18:48.46 | mheath | Notice the lack of "good". It is not a good afternoon. |
| 18:53.07 | Lone_Wanderer | You have your dr. appointment today? |
| 18:53.12 | mheath | Had. |
| 18:53.28 | Lone_Wanderer | How'd it go? You leaving the Navy? |
| 18:53.38 | mheath | Expeditious Administrative Seperation |
| 18:53.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Wow, that sounds bad. |
| 18:54.12 | mheath | Kinda is, for now. In 6 months it supposedly turns in, for all intents and purpsoes, into just a normal Honorable discharge. |
| 18:54.34 | mheath | That psychologist apparently does this to everyone |
| 18:54.44 | Lone_Wanderer | psychologist? |
| 18:54.55 | Lone_Wanderer | I thought you were seeing a doc about your knees? |
| 18:54.57 | YoctoMigs | gives them an expeditious adminstrative separation? |
| 18:55.18 | mheath | Heh, you apparently missed half the story. |
| 18:57.17 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: Yes, when you have the upper hand. When they _think_ you're normal going into it |
| 18:57.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Right. If they think you're messed up somehow, it's a lot harder. |
| 18:57.17 | mheath | When they are convinced your not, though, they just psychoanalyze everything you say and do in the worst possible way. |
| 18:57.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Despite all their talk of objectivity, they don't have any. |
| 18:57.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Yep. |
| 18:57.17 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: Uh, you missed the story of hwo I spent a week in a Behavioral Health Hospital for depression and suicidal ideations. |
| 18:57.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Ohhh yeah I did miss that part. |
| 18:57.18 | YoctoMigs | that sucks |
| 18:57.18 | YoctoMigs | my wife went through that |
| 18:57.23 | mheath | And this guy today additionally diagnozed me with a "Personality Disorder" |
| 18:57.28 | YoctoMigs | lol |
| 18:57.29 | YoctoMigs | which one? |
| 18:57.37 | mheath | The doc here. |
| 18:57.44 | mheath | erm, the doc at the Naval Hospital here* |
| 18:57.45 | YoctoMigs | no, which personality disorder? |
| 18:57.46 | levi | I think he meant which personality disorder. |
| 18:57.50 | YoctoMigs | if you don't mind my asking |
| 18:57.51 | Lone_Wanderer | If they think you're messed up, you have to know how to let them know you're not messed up without actually coming out and saying it. You have to know what they look for. |
| 18:57.58 | YoctoMigs | I only ask because most so-called personality disorder diagnoses are bunk |
| 18:57.59 | mheath | Just says Personality Disorder |
| 18:58.04 | Lone_Wanderer | That's it? |
| 18:58.08 | mheath | Thats just in the narrative about what he recommends |
| 18:58.10 | levi | Heh. |
| 18:58.12 | YoctoMigs | pfft, that's stupid |
| 18:58.27 | levi | Everyone's got a personality disorder, I'm sure. :) |
| 18:58.30 | YoctoMigs | for every psych who diagnoses a personality disorder, you can find at least 5 others who would disagree |
| 18:58.43 | Lone_Wanderer | The thing about a personality is, it's different depending on who you're interacting with. No one shrink can evaluate a person's personality. |
| 18:58.50 | YoctoMigs | right |
| 18:58.57 | mheath | This servicemember is considered disqualified from further Naval Service due to Personality DO and chronic orthopedic issues/PFPS. |
| 18:59.05 | Lone_Wanderer | In fact, just being a shrink in the first place means that you interact with people in a certain way. |
| 18:59.18 | YoctoMigs | depends on the psychological approach they take, too. A cognitive psych would diagnosis differently than a behavioral psych |
| 18:59.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Which should disqualify you from evaluating people for a large number of "personality disorders". |
| 18:59.46 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: On the other hand, who then is qualified? |
| 18:59.56 | Lone_Wanderer | levi: I should rephrase. |
| 19:00.03 | mheath | Thats why I hate psychological health |
| 19:00.08 | levi | It's not very useful to have a disorder that no one is qualified to diagnose. |
| 19:00.09 | mheath | everything within it is so ambiguous |
| 19:00.12 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't think it's wise to diagnose someone as having a personality disorder based on interacting with them yourselff. |
| 19:00.31 | mheath | So much of the treatment comes down to the psychologists short term impression of you |
| 19:00.31 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: So, you would observe interactions with other people. |
| 19:00.50 | Lone_Wanderer | If you watch them interacting with others and see patterns emerge, and others verify your observations independently, then you've probably got something real to work with. |
| 19:00.56 | levi | mheath: In a normal situation, you'd probably get an opportunity to develop a longer-term relationship. |
| 19:01.22 | Lone_Wanderer | mheath: ask to take the MMPI, if you can. |
| 19:01.35 | Lone_Wanderer | That, at least, has some element of objectivity. |
| 19:02.02 | Lone_Wanderer | But be warned - if you do in fact have psychological problems, the MMPI will uncover them. It also has a "truthfulness" indicator, so lying on the test isn't easy. |
| 19:02.06 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: I don't care. I'm not going to drag my feet and waste time. I'm getting discharged no matter what for my orthopedic problems. |
| 19:02.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Then why did they send you to the shrink? |
| 19:02.39 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: Because a doctor referred me to one? |
| 19:03.14 | mheath | It's medical treatment. They give me all the treatment they think I need. |
| 19:03.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean, it seems like overkill. If they know you're out for orthopedic problems, why mess around with adding a psych eval on top of that? |
| 19:03.16 | mheath | They don't say "Oh, well, you're already getting discharged, so we're not going to treat you anymore." |
| 19:03.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Ahh, okay. It doesn't sound like you got treatment, though - just a diagnosis and condemnation. |
| 19:03.44 | mheath | Well, yeah, I did, but its technically "treatment" :P |
| 19:03.55 | Lone_Wanderer | ok |
| 19:04.06 | mheath | By the way, HP support is awesome! |
| 19:04.23 | mheath | Took me forever to get them to let me send my laptop back, but when I did it was awesome |
| 19:04.33 | Lone_Wanderer | And they can do so much damage in such a short amount of time (or with so few words). |
| 19:04.59 | mheath | They even replaced the casing on the laptop because of some minor cosmetic blemishes |
| 19:05.05 | Lone_Wanderer | nice! |
| 19:05.17 | levi | http://www.straightdope.com/columns/051223.html |
| 19:05.18 | brac | [The Straight Dope: What does "Alice in Wonderland" have to do with |
| 19:05.18 | brac | psychological testing?] |
| 19:06.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Umm. |
| 19:06.43 | Lone_Wanderer | I've taken the MMPI on several occasions and I've never seen a question in it about Alice in Wonderland. |
| 19:06.58 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: If you read the article, it notes that the question is long since gone. |
| 19:07.01 | Lone_Wanderer | ok |
| 19:07.36 | levi | mheath: At least the doctor didn't have you take home a sample of prozac or something after your first visit. |
| 19:08.05 | mheath | levi: military is very very very reluctant to ever do that. |
| 19:08.20 | mheath | docs at the behavioral health hospital tried to medicate me. I denied it. |
| 19:08.36 | Lone_Wanderer | mheath: good choice |
| 19:08.56 | Lone_Wanderer | I was on antidepressants a long time ago after someone I knew died and MEPS is making a huge fuss about it. |
| 19:09.21 | Lone_Wanderer | (And because my doctor doesn't understand how MEPS works, it took about three tries to get him to write a letter that wouldn't cause more problems than it solved.) |
| 19:10.27 | mheath | Did you go to MEPS then? |
| 19:10.34 | mheath | Or is that just the prescreening? |
| 19:10.52 | Lone_Wanderer | prescreening |
| 19:11.02 | mheath | Heh. I hated MEPS |
| 19:11.07 | Lone_Wanderer | I went to MEPS in 2000, right when I'd first started them, and (obviously) got disqualified. |
| 19:11.20 | Lone_Wanderer | So they've got a psych hold on my record now. |
| 19:11.37 | mheath | Sooooo boring. And I made a grand total of 6 trips down there. |
| 19:12.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Wow, you've got me beat. |
| 19:12.42 | mheath | 3 of those days, I was there from 6AM to ~10PM |
| 19:12.46 | Lone_Wanderer | holy cow |
| 19:12.55 | mheath | (don't worry, you shouldn't have to do that) |
| 19:13.10 | mheath | I had 6 waivers to get in. |
| 19:13.48 | Lone_Wanderer | The only time I went to actually attempt to enlist (the other times have just been to drop off paperwork or take the ASVAB) was the time in 2000, so I don't know what to expect after the physical. |
| 19:14.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmmm. I wonder if, because I'm joining the National Guard, a state senator would be able to push things through. One of them is in my parent's ward. |
| 19:14.20 | mheath | Haha, no. |
| 19:14.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh well. |
| 19:14.40 | mheath | Just more waiting.... |
| 19:14.56 | mheath | Then you'll talk to the classifier, who will set you up with a job. |
| 19:15.05 | mheath | They'll draw up your DEP enlistment contract |
| 19:15.21 | mheath | You'll wait more |
| 19:15.37 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean, if MEPS balks at my history despite all the letters and notes and things from my doctor, I'm wondering whether a letter from a state senator (because the national guard is a state organization iirc) would get them to take me. |
| 19:15.50 | Lone_Wanderer | What's a classifier? |
| 19:16.27 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: the Army might call that something different, and sometimes its kind of ambiguous (one person might do all ofyoure processing, etc) |
| 19:16.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, it sounds like the person who determines what MOS you're going to take... |
| 19:16.52 | mheath | Just the person so classifies you into a job |
| 19:16.54 | mheath | Yeah |
| 19:16.55 | Lone_Wanderer | and I already know what MOS I want |
| 19:16.59 | mheath | Yeah, i know |
| 19:16.59 | Lone_Wanderer | :'( |
| 19:17.04 | mheath | But this is the guy who actually puts you in it |
| 19:17.04 | Lone_Wanderer | So I might not get it? |
| 19:17.07 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh ok |
| 19:17.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Apparently they need them. It's in the "20k enlistment bonus" category. |
| 19:17.36 | mheath | Grr, you suck. |
| 19:17.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Speaking of which, when does that get paid out? Is it as soon as I sign the contract, or not until I complete training? |
| 19:17.41 | mheath | Army hands out money like candy |
| 19:17.57 | mheath | I have the best bonus in the Navy. I get more bonus than ANY. OTHER. JOB. |
| 19:18.04 | mheath | Our bonus is considered INSANE compared to other jobs |
| 19:18.08 | Lone_Wanderer | In the Navy? Or any other job in the military period? |
| 19:18.09 | mheath | and I got $17,000 |
| 19:18.14 | mheath | Navy. |
| 19:18.16 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 19:18.22 | mheath | I'd still beat you, if I could stay in for a career. |
| 19:18.38 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm just going to be a bandaid trooper. |
| 19:18.39 | mheath | They give up to $100,000 reenlistment bonuses for Nukes. |
| 19:18.44 | Lone_Wanderer | nice! |
| 19:20.28 | mheath | Heh, I'm filling out my DD Form 2807-1, and its rediculous |
| 19:20.35 | mheath | I'm going to easily overflow the Explanation block. |
| 19:20.50 | Lone_Wanderer | ridiculous! |
| 19:20.59 | Lone_Wanderer | ~lart e's in words they don't belong in |
| 19:20.59 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after e's in words they don't belong in's head |
| 19:21.00 | YoctoMigs | absurd! |
| 19:21.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Preposterous! |
| 19:21.08 | YoctoMigs | poppycock! |
| 19:21.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Shenanigans! |
| 19:21.19 | YoctoMigs | hogwash! |
| 19:21.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Balderdash! |
| 19:21.31 | YoctoMigs | LIES! |
| 19:21.41 | Lone_Wanderer | lack... of... truths! |
| 19:21.57 | YoctoMigs | ... |
| 19:22.22 | mheath | Heh, What do I put for "Currently in good health" ? |
| 19:22.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes. |
| 19:22.43 | YoctoMigs | oh, I have more, don't worry about that |
| 19:22.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Did they do the "Your Enlistment Stops / Numerous Opportunities" thing before you went to MEPS, mheath? |
| 19:22.58 | YoctoMigs | Blatherskyte! |
| 19:23.02 | YoctoMigs | nonsense! |
| 19:23.06 | Lone_Wanderer | meh, the thesaurus isn't helping. |
| 19:23.10 | Lone_Wanderer | you win :( |
| 19:23.12 | mheath | Heh, I have 10 "Yes" (all the "Yes" except for "Currently in good health" are bad0 |
| 19:23.26 | YoctoMigs | foolishness! |
| 19:23.32 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: Uh, don't think so. Don't know what you're talking about. That sounds something service-specific. |
| 19:23.57 | Lone_Wanderer | At MEPS, when they ask you questions, Yes stands for Your Enlistment Stops, No stands for Numerous Opportunities. |
| 19:24.15 | YoctoMigs | what if I get sick and join the Navy but don't tell them then have to get expeditiously administratively separated? Would I get a fat bonus too? |
| 19:25.58 | mheath | Worn contact lenses or glasses, Swollen or painful joint(s), Knee trouble, Adverse reaction to serum, food, insect stings or medicine, Received counseling of any type, Depression or excessive worry, Been evaluated or treated for a mental condition, Been treated in an ER, Been a patient at any type of hospital, Have you ever been discharged from military service for any reason? |
| 19:26.28 | mheath | YoctoMigs: I do not get that bonus. I haven't received any of that bonus. I wouldn't get any of it for another 8 months. |
| 19:26.32 | mheath | I don't get any now. |
| 19:26.36 | YoctoMigs | well that's lame |
| 19:26.56 | YoctoMigs | guess it's best to stay at a 6-figure job, then |
| 19:27.08 | YoctoMigs | hypothetically speaking |
| 19:28.11 | mheath | uh |
| 19:28.47 | mheath | YoctoMigs: If you go Navy Nuke, and stay in, you have the potentail for probably higher earnings than what you're making right now (thats making an assumption, you might be very, very well off) |
| 19:29.07 | YoctoMigs | lol and how long would that take? |
| 19:29.15 | mheath | Ex-Navy Nukes typically make $100,000+ starting |
| 19:29.18 | mheath | YoctoMigs: 6 years |
| 19:29.24 | YoctoMigs | see, because I can probably get a 6 figure salary within the next 2 or 3 years |
| 19:30.45 | YoctoMigs | if I really wanted to |
| 19:30.46 | YoctoMigs | ex-navy nukes? |
| 19:30.46 | YoctoMigs | so you have to become a navy nuke then leave the navy? |
| 19:30.46 | mheath | Yes. Get trained and qualified, then leave. |
| 19:30.46 | YoctoMigs | and do what? |
| 19:30.46 | Lone_Wanderer | YoctoMigs: When you sign up, you enlist for six years, and after that you're free to leave. |
| 19:30.46 | mheath | For that kind of money? Probably work in a civilian powerplant. |
| 19:30.46 | YoctoMigs | what would I do in a civilian powerplant? |
| 19:30.50 | mheath | The same things you were doing in the Navy. |
| 19:30.55 | Lone_Wanderer | manage it |
| 19:30.59 | mheath | ETs, reactor control |
| 19:31.02 | YoctoMigs | I could manage a nuclear power plant? |
| 19:31.03 | mheath | EMs, electrical repair |
| 19:31.11 | mheath | MM's, mechanical repair and operation |
| 19:31.25 | mheath | If you were a nuke ET, yes. |
| 19:31.32 | mheath | They quite directly manage a nuclear power plant. |
| 19:31.37 | YoctoMigs | would I be able to have a cushy job where I sit in an office in a cushy chair, eat donuts and cookies all day, listen to music, and play ping-pong? |
| 19:31.56 | mheath | YoctoMigs: Navy Nuke ET is basically what Homer Simpson does. |
| 19:32.01 | YoctoMigs | sweet! |
| 19:32.10 | YoctoMigs | they're safety inspectors? |
| 19:32.20 | mheath | No. But he's not really a safety inspector. |
| 19:32.27 | mheath | He sits and a console of buttons and runs the reactor. |
| 19:32.30 | YoctoMigs | Yes he is. |
| 19:32.48 | mheath | Thats what they say he is. He doesn't ever inspect anything for safety. |
| 19:32.51 | YoctoMigs | his job title is "safety inspector" |
| 19:33.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Clearly mheath doesn't watch enough Simpsons! |
| 19:33.18 | YoctoMigs | clearly... |
| 19:33.47 | YoctoMigs | would I get to blow things up? |
| 19:34.04 | Lone_Wanderer | I think your job would be to prevent things from blowing up. |
| 19:34.15 | Lone_Wanderer | But you could probably get a long way toward causing a meltdown. |
| 19:34.27 | YoctoMigs | but by doing so, to prevent things from blowing up, in some cases, I'd still have to blow things up, right? |
| 19:34.43 | mheath | YoctoMigs: Yes, if you want'ed to kill hundreds of your shipmates, contaminate the ocean with heavy amounts of radiation, and prevent the Navy from ever using nuclear power again without the public trying to stop it |
| 19:34.47 | YoctoMigs | meh, I don't need to become an Army Ranger to blow things up. I can do that in my own backyard. |
| 19:34.48 | mheath | Then, sure, you can blow things up |
| 19:34.51 | YoctoMigs | sweet! |
| 19:35.03 | YoctoMigs | sign me up! |
| 19:35.35 | YoctoMigs | the public can't do squat |
| 19:35.41 | YoctoMigs | Navy does what it wants, when it wants, how it wants, where it wants |
| 19:36.04 | Lone_Wanderer | mheath: How can you tell if there's a Navy pilot at a party? |
| 19:36.20 | mheath | I have no idea. |
| 19:36.23 | Lone_Wanderer | He'll tell you. |
| 19:36.27 | mheath | Heh. |
| 19:48.12 | findlay | hah |
| 19:48.15 | findlay | a |
| 19:48.42 | Lone_Wanderer | So, when you have a date with someone, and she lets you know the day before that she has to cover for someone at work when you were supposed to go out... |
| 19:48.47 | Lone_Wanderer | what is the appropriate response? |
| 19:49.06 | Lone_Wanderer | (I already wrote back saying "No problem, I'll go with someone else.") |
| 19:51.20 | YoctoMigs | http://youtube.com/watch?v=tn1d5DmdMqY |
| 19:51.57 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: The appropriate responds depends on how much you like her, and how mad she made you. |
| 19:52.27 | sjansen | Anything involving fire is probably crossing the line. |
| 19:52.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, the tickets were not cheap. However, I asked her more because I thought that she would enjoy it and because I wanted to go (I've always wanted to see Carmina Burana) than because I really like her. |
| 19:52.59 | findlay | but regarding the phases of matter simmilar to fire, they are all options |
| 19:53.09 | Lone_Wanderer | I like her, she's cute, but I'm not planning on marrying her or anything. |
| 19:53.27 | findlay | Lone_Wanderer: I'm going to that next Wednesday |
| 19:53.34 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 19:53.46 | findlay | I got free tickets :) |
| 19:54.00 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh |
| 19:54.03 | Lone_Wanderer | from where? |
| 19:54.24 | findlay | some promotional thing that my mom won at an LDS BC dinner |
| 19:54.29 | Lone_Wanderer | nice |
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| 20:14.23 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.06 | findlay | someday my irssi will handle any construct that resolves to an integer |
| 20:17.43 | mheath | Hmm. I'm going to need a job when I get back home. |
| 20:17.48 | sjansen | Someday redbeard will invent a heavenly tasting, fat burning cheesecake. Of course he'll insist on giving the profit as long as I let him keep the credit. |
| 20:18.03 | sjansen | s/giving/giving me/ |
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| 20:20.02 | ibot | cowers in fear |
| 20:21.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Someone needs to make one of those "Hi I'm a PC" "I'm a Mac" things, only for IE and other browsers. |
| 20:22.16 | elg | Hi, I'm a Sith |
| 20:22.23 | elg | and I'm a Jedi |
| 20:22.49 | Lone_Wanderer | IE would be obese and retarded. |
| 20:23.13 | Lone_Wanderer | And in a wheelchair, and waving around a high-powere rifle shooting things randomly. |
| 20:23.20 | findlay | haha |
| 20:23.24 | Lone_Wanderer | s/high-powere/high-powered/ |
| 20:24.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Firefox would be a 30-something semi-attractive guy who's a bit past his prime and is stuffing twinkies into his mouth as fast as he can, mumbling "Need more features... need more features..." |
| 20:24.27 | findlay | but with lots of accesories already |
| 20:24.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah. |
| 20:24.53 | Lone_Wanderer | Leering at every female app who walks by, shouting "Hey baby, can I integrate with you in my next release?!? |
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| 20:29.53 | YoctoMigs | Opera would be that down syndrome kid everybody acknowledges but tries to avoid |
| 20:30.18 | maquis | wow... |
| 20:30.21 | maquis | this is an interesting conversation |
| 20:30.28 | maquis | what about lynx/elinks/links? |
| 20:30.33 | elg | lynx would be sjansen |
| 20:30.50 | findlay | maquis: there is no links anymore, only elinks |
| 20:31.05 | nick125- | maquis: it is even more interesting if you just joined the conversation.. |
| 20:31.15 | findlay | lol |
| 20:31.16 | nick125- | :p |
| 20:31.36 | findlay | < Lone_Wanderer> Someone needs to make one of those "Hi I'm a PC" "I'm a Mac" things, only for IE and other browsers. |
| 20:31.46 | maquis | nick125-: yah... i didn't read too far up |
| 20:31.58 | nick125- | findlay: haha |
| 20:32.01 | maquis | i just saw the part about firefox leering at female apps |
| 20:32.06 | maquis | and wanting to integrate with them |
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| 20:36.49 | Lone_Wanderer | lynx would be a retired Green Beret. |
| 20:38.29 | YoctoMigs | Konqueror's the traveling salesman who always appears on everyone's doorstep and doesn't go away until you inform him he's not welcome anymore |
| 20:38.47 | YoctoMigs | or is that still IE? |
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| 20:39.34 | YoctoMigs | Netscape's the octogenarian who still has a few honeys on the side |
| 20:39.41 | Lone_Wanderer | lol |
| 20:39.59 | Lone_Wanderer | I used to work with a guy like that. |
| 20:40.25 | Lone_Wanderer | He was only like 50 but he talked about how old he was all the time. |
| 20:40.43 | YoctoMigs | haha |
| 20:40.43 | Lone_Wanderer | And then a gorgeous 22 year old would show up and he'd go "Gotta go guys, I have a lunch date." |
| 20:41.24 | YoctoMigs | haha wtf |
| 20:41.40 | YoctoMigs | I had a high school teacher exactly like that, in fact |
| 20:41.52 | YoctoMigs | old guy, but always had some hot young chick he was dating |
| 20:42.27 | Lone_Wanderer | The Colonel was kind of like that in my high school. (It was a military school, hence the presence of a colonel.) |
| 20:42.53 | findlay | ~ubuntu sjansen |
| 20:42.57 | ibot | ACTION lovingly explains to sjansen in a way that causes sjansen to weep with gratitude that sjansen must read the fine, friendly manual |
| 20:42.57 | Lone_Wanderer | He, incidentally, was also a retired Green Beret. He was in his late 60's but he was still super sharp and in good shape. |
| 20:42.58 | YoctoMigs | was it Colonel Sanders? |
| 20:43.05 | YoctoMigs | I'd attend that high school |
| 20:43.08 | Lone_Wanderer | No but he looked kind of like him, only without the mustache. |
| 20:43.15 | Lone_Wanderer | I forgot his name :( |
| 20:43.25 | YoctoMigs | I'm going to refer to him as Colonel Sanders |
| 20:43.31 | YoctoMigs | if you don't mind |
| 20:43.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Good deal. |
| 20:44.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmm. Does anyone know how to make a circle look like it has 3d-ish highlights in the Gimp? |
| 20:50.51 | Tene | Lone_Wanderer: use the 'brush' tool |
| 20:53.40 | findlay | Lone_Wanderer: ImageMagick! |
| 20:53.51 | tensai | elg: aren't you the ngrep expert? |
| 20:54.36 | findlay | but image magick is magickal partially because of it's difficulty of incantation |
| 20:55.05 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't want to mess with it right now :p |
| 20:56.12 | bonez39 | does OO writer...print out just envelopes from an address database? |
| 20:56.49 | fozzmoo | bonez39: It can. |
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| 21:25.12 | Lone_Wanderer | has anyone heard of Gym Jones? www.gymjones.com |
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| 23:06.27 | jbellis | is there something in /proc that tells me how much swap is being used, similar to vmstat(8) ? |
| 23:07.51 | byronc | jbellis: /proc/meminfo |
| 23:08.05 | byronc | check SwapTotal and SwapFree |
| 23:08.14 | jbellis | ah, thanks |
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